Growing Up in the Worldwide Church of God, Holidays and Christmas

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Ray Lussier

Ray Lussier

Жыл бұрын

The Worldwide Church of God was a Seventh Day Adventist offshoot that forbad all Christian holidays, especially Christmas. What was it like as a child in that cult at the holidays? Listen and find out!

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@MustangsTrainsMowers
@MustangsTrainsMowers Жыл бұрын
Some families made The Feast of Tabernacles a little like Christmas giving gifts to their children. I remember the holidays and the Christmas topic easily came up with people outside of the cult, then I’d have to explain that we don’t celebrate Christmas. Some peoples reaction is almost like a gasp of “you don’t celebrate Christmas”???? Then they would look at you like you were an alien from another planet.
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 Жыл бұрын
Which is exactly why I usually didn’t tell people that I didn’t celebrate it
@robertmaynard4265
@robertmaynard4265 2 ай бұрын
and all because of God
@hope3761
@hope3761 Жыл бұрын
Hi Ray I like Armstrong in his Santa hat .
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 Жыл бұрын
Compliments of Jeremy Dotson
@cesartan7320
@cesartan7320 4 ай бұрын
malachi 4:5 "hwa is the prophecies elijah that will come before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD".
@adamjacobschmidt
@adamjacobschmidt Жыл бұрын
I joined the navy and do have to say that my friends' parents were very, very respectful and actually encouraging of it
@kentuckydeluxe1198
@kentuckydeluxe1198 9 ай бұрын
WWCG was a good experience for me. Then Tckach took over. Then bad.
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 9 ай бұрын
it was a living hell for me. Herbert is roasting in hell right now,
@Mrz-sb1hw
@Mrz-sb1hw 7 ай бұрын
Glad l have also gone to the doctor. They have saved me a lot of unessesary suffering. And dentists are brilliant. You cant take dental pain its very sore and it doesn't go away. People have died because religious people have told them not to go to doctors. If im ill lm going to the hospital.
@adamjacobschmidt
@adamjacobschmidt Жыл бұрын
Could you possibly number these videos? Or, put them in a playlist?
@adamjacobschmidt
@adamjacobschmidt Жыл бұрын
My buddt in HS was in this cult also. What about being encouraged or forbidden NOT to join the military?
@raymondlussier3920
@raymondlussier3920 8 ай бұрын
you're right, you weren't allowed to join the military in this cult. There were a lot of professions that were off limits to cult members, like much of the medical profession, the entertainment industry, and politics mostly because such professions either went against cult teachings or would have required working on the sabbath.
@adamjacobschmidt
@adamjacobschmidt Жыл бұрын
Speaking of after Christmas sales, my mom used to poke a little fun at Jewish folks. She told me that that was why they have all the money.
@hope3761
@hope3761 Жыл бұрын
I remember that about no voting so glad to be able to vote red ,We also had to burn those anointed cloths after using them ,In 71 i was in the seventh grade ,When I was 18 I wanted to be a Police Officer and a Male friend of mine in Church told me that I could not be a Police Officer because I could not carry a Gun,
@susanepp2707
@susanepp2707 Жыл бұрын
My grandfather knew Herbert W Armstrong and my parents knew Garner Ted. I always thought it waa really super weird that a person could only attend the meetings if invited. That is so opposite to Christianity that teaches " all come unto Me". My parents never had a Christmas tree. Generally the only holiday i could take part in was Valentine's Day. Oh, we made a big feal out of Thanksgiving.
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 Жыл бұрын
I hear you. Thanksgiving is still a big deal for me because when we were in the WCG it was the one time of year I felt like a normal person!
@Doris1888
@Doris1888 2 ай бұрын
I thought Valentine's Day was one of the "forbidden holidays".
@cesartan7320
@cesartan7320 4 ай бұрын
john 14:29 "hwa was right, all what he prophecy is happening NOW, mostly in your country AMERICA".
@cesartan7320
@cesartan7320 4 ай бұрын
isaiah 53:5 "by HIS stripe, we are healed". hebrews 11:6 "without faith, it is immposible to please GOD". 1 timothy 2:9 "women must must dress modestly, not with elaborate hairstyles or lipstick".
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting, it greatly helps the algorithms
@kathrynralli4557
@kathrynralli4557 Жыл бұрын
Your a little bit younger than me. I was born into it. All holidays are pagen.... regardless....Mr. Armstrong was an ACTOR....TV black and white....and colour....is programming. Turn it off....even now.....turn it off and think for yourself.... you'll feel better....all religion is mind control......MR. Armstrong was a master at delivering his script.
@maegardnermills4292
@maegardnermills4292 Жыл бұрын
Didn't the Jehovah Witness come out of Seventh Day Adventist?
@maegardnermills4292
@maegardnermills4292 Жыл бұрын
Beverly Armstrong , his daughter, was kicked out for wearing make-up.
@maegardnermills4292
@maegardnermills4292 Жыл бұрын
A cult began for me when I wanted something better than the Bully Baptist. I held Christmas, Easter, and Halloween. I even broke from the Seventh Day Adventist. They were so against our government! My grandpa was a church founder with his brothers and their wives. He was a preacher as the others. He committed adultery , divorced and married his mistress and still PREACHED! Seeking as you and others lead us on paths. God made us stronger. I ❤️ you and what connection you have.
@kathrynralli4557
@kathrynralli4557 Жыл бұрын
I only found you yesterday and im certainly not trying to be diss respect full to you. I loved Mr. Armstrong and more his wife Loma. I was so sad when she died. There was so much good in that "cult" which hooked people in.....as thwy have to tell the good with the bad. We all need to do our own research and think for ourselves and take responsibility for our own actions. Mr. Armstrong did what he was told. He was greedy, manipulative and self absorbed with illusions of grandure and his message was filled with truths among oll the lies. Thats why people succumed because they had no willpower to fight the programming.
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your input and I appreciate you watching the videos. Please let me know what else you think.
@kathrynralli4557
@kathrynralli4557 Жыл бұрын
@@raybo1018 honestly, I had no idea there was so much out there on this....till yesterday......and now I've been binging a bit!!!! Wasting time, or not....not sure. My family left when I was 14. I actually got up and walked out of church in Pasadena when my "uncle" Charles, Mr. Hunting, was giving the announcements, and never went back. He said my whole family, including me, a teenager sitting there, had been, " excommunicated" because my dad had committed " spiritual Beastiality". I had no idea what that was, but my boyfriend said....."get up, don't say a word, were leaving".....all eyes were on us, as we walked out down the long the middle isle of the auditorium, church was packed, hundreds of people, and we never went back.
@user-qb4ri7wi8w
@user-qb4ri7wi8w 2 ай бұрын
You have not understood like all the others
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 2 ай бұрын
Not understood what?
@cesartan7320
@cesartan7320 4 ай бұрын
luke 1:26 "jesus christ was born on may, not on a dead winter december".
@Doris1888
@Doris1888 2 ай бұрын
Jesus was probably born in the fall coinciding with one of the fall feasts. If so then his conception would be in the winter. His conception was the miracle. At the time when pagans celebrated Saturnalia and the Jews were celebrating the festival of lights (Hanukkah) the true Light was being conceived.
@standstill0641
@standstill0641 7 күн бұрын
Get a life and get over your personal grievance.. those who do not forgive WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN.
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 6 күн бұрын
Are you a follower of Herbert’s?
@thomasparrish429
@thomasparrish429 6 күн бұрын
We're supposed to expose the work's of darkness,no love in saying just get over it! Jesus would never say anything like that
@user-jc2ol7lf6i
@user-jc2ol7lf6i 5 ай бұрын
Apostate!!
@raybo1018
@raybo1018 5 ай бұрын
Yeah?
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