Herbert the pervert was a hypocrite doomsday cult zero accountability and didn't trust anyone they're is wisdom In the counsel of many,he was he's own god,bound up in legalism,he forgot that In the Bible it says husband's love your wife's everyone that I know in this Satanic cult hate's their wife's treat them like slaves, controls the money so they can't get out, good thing that Herbert is safely in hell with his demons where he can't hurt any one else!

Get a life and get over your personal grievance.. those who do not forgive WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN.

Get over your personal grievance. It's your problem not the world's problem...

Get over your personal grievance. It's your problem not the world's...

I’m currently a “Bible Church” that I can best describe as Baptist, but it doesn’t pay dues to the SBC or anything like that. Wonderful pastor, people and all. Being the critical thinker that I think I am, I notice so many inconsistencies with what the text of the Bible says. And a lot of reliance on what we want it to say to make everyone feel good. I can’t help but notice that what makes most people feel like they landed on the right church for them is rooted in Paganism. Human nature being what it is loves paganism. Most churches can’t even agree on the basics like the Ten Commandments. I understand that we are saved through the grace of Christ’s sacrifice. But seriously, we don’t have to walk by any standard of conduct and disregard God’s commandments? I’m pretty sure we’re supposed to walk by Christ’s example, but maybe that’s just too burdensome :(

Why do you put soo lout passages into that video - its frighten me and its much to loud...can´t stand that.

Thank you for sharing. I got teary eyed at the end. I’m still on the fence if I grew up in a cult or not. (UCG) but it’s nice to hear your experience and I relate a lot.

The way you described your dad saying “YEAH IT IS” gave me flash backs immediately to my dad. That’s exactly how my dad sounds lol

I’m really good at drawing as an adult I attribute to sitting through those 2 hours every Saturday as a child with nothing for the children. lol

I grew up in UCG. Now that I have kids of my own I’m really questioning everything and wanting to find a church home. There is a lot I agree with the UCG but there is so much I just don’t understand. I want a lot for my kids that I had but I can’t give and I feel bad for them.

Thats so true that we talked about demons 10x more than Jesus.

What's your preacher won't teach you , and doesn't really want you to know! The Bible clearly shows that Israel and Judah, (the Jews), fought Wars against one another. They were separate Nations, and each had their own Kings. Israel was made up of 10 of the tribes, and the nation of Judah was comprised of the tribe of Judah the Jews, part of the tribe of Benjamin, and many of the tribe of Levi. 1Kings 15:32 "And there was war between Asa and Baasha king of Israel all their days. 33 In the third year of Asa king of Judah began Baasha the son of Ahijah to reign over all Israel in Tirzah, twenty and four years." Don't hide your eyes from this biblical truth. Asa was the king of Judah, and Baa-sah was King of Israel, at war against one another!

30 years in WCG (1967-1997), and now 27 years of therapy and deprograming!

Get over it.. people everywhere ... school ... job ... life in general upset you.. the key is to overcome the upset

I got sucked into the W.W.C.G. as a naive teen. I let H.W.A. write my dictionary. As I matured it became stifling and left it a few times. '79 - '83 I was deeply re-involved but hitting the bars and discos when I could. I left cold turkey feeling damned. But life became wider and brighter, It took years to identify the toxic self hatred I had bought into and dismantle it. I got involved in Anglican lay ministry till retirement. I listen to a few evangelists and attend a Presbyterian church.But no cleric or denomination or cult will ever again meddle in my life or alienate me from my God Jesus Christ.

Thank God that you weren't not called. Good that you call God's Church a cult. Worldwide Church of God is no longer God's Church. They are mainstream Protestant. And they've called themselves a different name now. Now you mentioned about the three days and three nights. What was the question asked to Christ? Are you the Christ? So Christ gave them a sign to validate that He is the Christ. And if you have not prove that then you have believed in a different Jesus Christ. By listening to you just saying any part of a day is a day. Christ gave them the sign of the Prophet Jonah. He was in the belly of the great fish three days and three nights. So as the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights - 72 hours and it a salvation matter. To prove the true Christ our Saviour. God's Word does not contradict itself. So sad that you have believed in the Trinity doctrine. Like I said God has to call you. Hopefully, God will call you at this time not later on. All the best. Take care. 40:59

The True Church Of God Is: ○ Those who are Called, Chosen and are Faithful to the end. ○ When one is called, there is Repentance, Baptism, and the Receipt of God's Holy, which enable and empower us to keep God's Commandments. ○ The Great Commission given to the Apostles by Christ, was that they should go into all the world and teach all that He had taught them. We should search the Scriptures for ourselves and be obedient to the Word.

The three tenets of the Worldwide Church of God: Brainwash. Women shut up. Rejoice in the burning and suffering of the world because we are the Chosen. It is some really sick shit to teach children. If I believed in Hell, I would expect to see Armstrong and Tkach there in the front row. Disgusting.

Every service had two sermons, sermonette and sermon. If we were lucky, the preacher broke up the sermon in to 3 to 7 talking points. No so lucky, we got an hour long rambling sermon.

MY later regret for Mr Armstrong decades after i left was that he "refused" to use the YHVH hebrew personal name that the 12 Apostles used even though he for sure knew it. He knew the name we ALL must be saved by but did not allow usage. Also he told of a time he visited the Vatican library to verify something ! The Catholic Dictionary explains TITHING was RESTARTED by a council of Catholic elders in year 585 , over 500 years of Christians were not tithing because no Temple nor active Priests in Jerusalem and Mr Armstrong chose to hide that from the entire church..... At crucifiction the curtain was torn from top to bottom symbolizing WE pray without" need" of Priests and sacrifices ( no tithing money coming into WCG ) ! H.W.A. probably had good intentions !

You have not understood like all the others

Worship of the cross and trinity were not taught because they are not supported by biblical truths,but taught overcoming sin with a reward of Eternal life at Christ's return

Seventh Day Adventist is a Protestant Church who happen to Observe Sabbath day

2:50 The Ten Commandments,the Laws of clean and unclean meats, Christian Overcoming,the promise of Eternal life

I grew up in the Worldwide Church of God until Apostasy came from Tkcach.They taught how to grow Spiritually and taught Doctrines solely from the Bible, Sabbath keeping,keeping the Holy Days,

and all because of God

Christmas is the birthday of Nimrod and based off the celebrations of Saturnalia. If the Xmas tree isnt idolotry than why not celebrate without it?

I THINK AFTER MR. ARMSTRONG DIED EVERY THING CHANGED

I came into contact with the worldwide Church of God as a teenager, that was in the early 1970s. Learning the biblical truths the church taught and proved straight from the holy scriptures, saved me from making a lot of mistakes in my life, greatly enriched my life spiritually physically mentally and emotionally. God's word is truth. Men too often pervert and twist it , but the one true church of God continues in the biblical truth of God. It is the only light in the Darkness of this world's false and Confused religious teachings. Folks look to your Bibles spiritual guidance, not to the teachings of men.

As a Bible obsessed Catholic, it always makes me sad/angry to hear about Catholics who don't read their Bible being lured away from the church by some cult or sect with a very idiosyncrac interpretation of the Bible. I think the Bible, understood in its historical Christian context, is the best vaccine against this kind of thing.

I feel that those who left God's family , or perhaps was never truly converted were really victims of the synagogue of Satan , not God's Spirit led Church .

Besides trying to anhilate the Jews he wants to keep everyone confused and off balance. Truth is found in the Word of God. Find a pastor that teaches sound doctrine though few and far between.

I used to subscribe to The Plain Truth until i found the Real Truth . Armstrong made a mix match of different teaching from Mormonism Judaism SDA and my own faith as a Jehovahs witnesses

One God manifesting Himself as three persons is modalism.

I remember having to fruits of repentance in order to be baptized. In order to be baptized l, you had to prove you didn't need to be baptized.

Do you believe that people who were in the WWCG will be in heaven?

Thank you SO much for this video. I’m in a bad time of life right now where I’m trying to figure out what I believe is true. I’ve grown up my whole life in UCG and COGWA which are spin-offs of WWCG. I agree with everything you say. The environment and some of the teachings are just blasphemy. Thank you for giving me a safe space to think and rethink where I am at as a Christian.

The Worldwide Church of Fraud almost destroyed my life. I got sucked in as a naive, "good boy" teen and gave my blind loyalty to GTA then HWA. They kept us busy and used carrot and stick manipulation to make us conform with a smile.. Even the kind ministers had been suckered into the false narrative. The members were very nice but incapable of critical thinking. Questions were not welcomed or dismissed with a pat reply. This all made me judgemental, self loathing, confused and needy. I left a number of times.Everything fell apart for me in '83. I left cold turkey to save my sanity and have a real life before I burned in hell. Life just got better and better. After Christ healed me instantly of a debilitating fever years later, I refused to go to any church. A few visits to WWCG congregations convinced me to stay away. Now I am happy in Christ. I study the bible and pray daily. ' Attend and serve at a protestant church. I'm free of shame, fear and self loathing.

HWA was a false prophet!

Forgive the cults, pray for them, move on to a good church, and pray to God to help you deal with the baggage.

The "apostles" that followed HWA were even more nuts than he was.

Is Philadelphia Church of god a spin off of WWCG?

All religious groups are the one true church.

Somerton here, mostly a liar

If the Gospel have been preach wouldn't the end have come like its said the Gospel is hidden from the lost didn't Jesus go into Galilee preaching the good news the gospel of soon coming kingdom of God the dead know nothing but the living know they are going to die shall I go on friend

I know it's difficult to express all the myriad of feelings you went through in departing WCG: (firstly, I struggle to hear your video because the sound is too low; I must strain to hear what you say), but I was baptized by a WCG minister in 1969, and stayed until it fell part in the mid 1990s under Tkach. In confusion I stayed away from church altogether for seven years, sorting things out. But my question was, "Why would God do away with the Sabbath and Holydays?" I went again through ALL the doctrines we were taught, including the 3days and 3 nights issue. But as the daughter of a US Navy Chief, as a 7-9 year old Dad was stationed in Izmir, Turkey (the old Smyrna of the Bible) and as a family we lived there for TWO YEARS. I learned about Polycarp and Polycrates from having lived in Izmir, and we visited Ephesus whilst there, too. I know God wanted me to experience that part of the world, so that when I did read my Bible as an adult I could more easily sort out doctrines. My mother died when I was 3 and Dad and my Stepmother did not attend churches, but they sent my sister and me to the Baptist Church because our Mother was Catholic. However, at age 3 when Mother died she had taken me to the Catholic Church around the corner while Dad was overseas fighting in Korea from an aircraft carrier. At that young age I asked myself silently, "Is THIS God?" I couldn't swallow it, all the robes, candles, pompery, etc. Neither could I swallow the "once saved always saved" belief of the Baptists. So at age 17 a "small voice in my head" asked me as I stood singing the last hymn of the Baptist Sunday Service, "What are you doing here?" The thought was not my own thought. I asked myself if the voice were the devil or God, but I answered it by thinking, "Well, I'm here because my parents SENT me here, but WHY AM I HERE?" It was Spring of my senior year, so the summer before College I spent trying to answer the question. By college I had proved to myself the existence of God, so in college I took a LOGIC class, WORLD RELIGIONS, Psychology, but it was church HISTORY I didn't know. But 5 years later, having married a man that introduced me to the Plain Truth Magazine, we were both baptized by WCG, into the Body of Christ. They put our names on the roll. I had difficulty with some few teachings, but the arrogance of the ministry was the most difficult to fathom for me. I quit attending and my personal life and family life fell apart. However, eventually I sorted out the Bible Doctrines, attempting to "prove all things". Associating with several COGs, I always asked questions they couldn't answer, but I knew that the Sabbath and Holydays were God's appointed times, not SUN-day. I knew that both Polycarp and Polycrates had visited the Roman Bishops to try and emphasizn to them the keeping of Passover not "Easter", and to me THAT was ironclad. They were BOTH students of John The Apostle, who could not be wrong on those points, knowing that Christ died to pay the penalty for our breaking the Eternal Law of God, that is Just, Holy and GOOD. On my own I questioned the 3 days and 3 nights issue by discovering that had Christ been crucified on any other day but FRIDAY, He would not be our Savior because He would have broken the Law of The Peace Offering. His sacrifice WAS a Peace Offering, undoubtedly: Col.1:20, also See Lev. 7:11-21 and Lev.19:5-8, Then online I found the 12 verses that prove the meaning of Matt.12:40, that led me to discern that Christ was 3 days and 3 nights PAYING FOR OUR SINS. I will post those 12 verses below. The WCG and offshoots turns that around to Christ being in the grave 3 NIGHTS and 3 days, backwards to Matt.12:40. I knew Isaiah 53 shows the sequence also, the sequence that took 3 days and 3 nights, beginning with the BETRAYAL by Iscariot. And also that Christ spent the last NIGHT of that sequence in the GRAVE, not being resurrected after the 3rd day, a Sabbath DAY. He was resurrected after the THIRD NIGHT. So I knew something was very wrong in the teaching. I had heard enough Protestant and Catholic Doctrines to know they were both in error, and history shows how those both defy the SABBATH-Keeping Brethren throughout the two millennia since Christ paid for our sins. I knew few were firstfruits now, and the main harvest period was pictured by Tabernacles, but that the Church NEVER read the LAW AT Tabernacles as commanded in Deut.31:9-13. If the Church had there would have been too many questions they couldn't answer. Divorce and remarriage was also a huge issue in the Church as was the count to Pentecost, that HWA changed in 1974. Pentecost is a full COUNT of 50 days, a "cardinal" count, not an "ordinal" count, so that the COGs have that wrong. Then I discovered the gross error of 1844 and the establishment of the international date line, that caused a Tuesday to be DOPPED from history for 1/3 of the world, so that HWA wrote that "china holy time was ahead of Jerusalem", which is a lie he should have know better than to teach! HWA changed the divorce and remarriage Doctrine in 1974 to fit his relationship with Ramona Martin, which marriage ended in divorce itself. Honestly, HWA was more like the "man of God" in I Kings 13 that went eating and drinking when he was instructed not to do so. A lion killed that "man of God"! But the Hillel II calendar of the Jews making is wrong, and God did set the heavenly ordinances in Genesis 1:14-19 and they have NOT CHANGED SINCE, as confirmed by Jeremiah in his chapters 31 and 33. The 3 days and 3 nights words "belly", "earth", and "heart" mean that Christ was emeshed or BURIED in SIN, becoming SIN for us over a 3 day and 3 night period, the belly being the seat of emotions of man, who is EARTHY, CARNAL, and whose HEART is desperately wicked. Christ did not have to PROVE He was the Savior at all: He just had to BE the Savior by pouring out His Blood and being nearly beaten to death for our SINS, our healing, then resting in the grave for the last 3rd NIGHT of the ordeal, He rose as the Firstfruit of God's Creation by Wave Sheaf morning and was accepted, asking Mary not to touch Him, which is part of the Peace Offering Law. Read it in Leviticus. The Moon conjunction that divides LIGHT from DARKNESS determines when God's Holy Time is, and no man can change those heavenly ordinances ever since Day 4 of Creation Week. But, ALL the COGs are in deep trouble with God because they are ALL taught falsehoods by the Ministry. The Two Witnesses will confirm the Truth of God soon - just look at the world today; TIME is just about UP! The Truth is only REVEALED by God, not a Church. Our Family struggles but so have all true Christians over the last two millennia, for keeping God's Commandments, Statutes, and Judgments which are FOREVER: Ps.119:160. God has NO commandments, statutes or judgments that are BAD, or WRONG, or temporary. He is not a derelict to have left out ANYTHING in His Law. It is man that has to decide to follow God not man, and to ask God for understanding, STUDY to be approved, rightly dividing the Word of God, and not bowing down to falsehoods. You can do that, too, my Friend. I am 77 and did that with God's help and no help at all from either of my parents or my sibling. Ask God to give you understanding. The Trinity is easily proven wrong: first of all is that Christ was conceived by the Holy Spirit, but the Father is His FATHER, not the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God's Power and He IS HOLY. So therefore God has a HOLY Spirit, and He IS a Spirit. And we must worship Him in the Spirit and in the Truthy. So asked Him for The TRUTH, then obey it. Re the international date line, in 1844 25 nations of the world agreed to go from Dec.30th, a MONDAY, at midnight to Jan.1st 1845 a WEDNESDAY, dropping a Tuesday from that part of the world, and projecting the REAL Sabbath in to SUN-day for those nations East of Jerusalem to the date Line in the Pacific Ocean, and nowhere did God say He agreed with that. The nations just changed TIMES and LAWS as they felt like it for reasons of SHIPPING! Read about that; it's all in historical records online. Our Family keeps God's times Holy, by the heavenly ordinances of Day 4 of Creation Week. It's all in the Book. :) Lastly, our Family gets kicked out of COGs, but we strive to keep God's Ordnances as a Family anyway.

To baptized, you had to produce fruits of repentance first. So I to prove I didn't need to be baptized in order to be baptized

My mom told me recently that she was part of the cult when I was a baby. She said it took her a bit to realize because some of what they taught was right.

Both my wife and I (we met in Orr at SEP) were raised in WWCG our entire lives (1970’s, 80’s, 90’s) We were from completely opposite sides of the country. We appreciate the fact that we had the same upbringing even though we came from totally opposite sides of the country and different types of families/family life. We both had great childhoods and experience in WWCG. All Of my siblings were also raised in WWCG and had great experiences. Our parents agreed with the changes also and made the change at the time. When the changes came my wife (girlfriend at the time) and I also agreed with them. We then ended up at an Evangelical church within 10 years, once our kids reached elementary school age. They had a great youth program for our kids to take part in and have grown up with similar youth group experiences as we had in YOU but from an evangelical perspective.

There's so many offshoot religions from the wwcg which one is right. I received the "plain truth" in the eighties but never joined. Failed predictions a plenty, no second coming. But at the same time l have to admit that bizarre events have happened so god might not be a fictional character.