F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 | Best 5th Generation Aircraft | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@chrishaug]

F35 Vs gripen? Youve done this video like 10 times

[@jager6863]

Always fun to watch. I think DCS is very generous when it comes to modeling Russian capabilities. In a real fight, personally, I don't think any Russian fighter would be able to lock-up a F22. The only exception would be if it was on the F22's tail.

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

[@tonyennis1787]

11:14 what's the "Star of David" on the HUD?

[@numberyellow]

@@tonyennis1787 It's not a star of david... it's a triangle, and an inverted triangle... It indicates that the target is at the maximum range of an AMRAAM. single triangle is used to indicate maximum range on, i think, the Sparrow.

[@samuelzuleger5134]

8:47 Radar told the Su-57 missile to hit the bumble bee and it went after an actual beehive.

[@BladeKi11a]

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

[@MelordJenkins]

This needs more likes🤣💯

[@Bigcat726]

Same

[@CT-et3uh]

Same 😊

[@Mikeytheoneyouknow]

Bump

[@TheModrnPhilosophr]

Yoooo pls

[@frtik753]

"You've yee'd your last Haw Felon" - F-22 pilots probably

[@josueroberto7356]

“You’ve Aced your last Combat.”

[@miguelpericas6154]

60 Su57 in the end of 2024 and 150 F22, 60 isnt much, but 150 isnt either

[@johns1625]

Come on dude don't make fun of them. They only have 2 felons left now. 😭😭

[@sujitbala1492]

@@miguelpericas6154 You'd be surprised of how effective those numbers are.

[@heatblast876]

​@@johns1625 2 should I say 40.

[@GaggyWaggy]

Worst decision the pilot could have made was going on water and he actually did that

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Correct. Should have stayed over land.

[@joseglenn20]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Why??

[@Danko05]

​@@joseglenn20Objects on the ground help in several ways, they difficult radar's work or missiles could hit said objects, like in the video, noting like that in the water.

[@andersjjensen]

@@joseglenn20 The AMRAAM's internal radar is nowhere nearly as sophisticated as what is on the F-22 (for rather obvious cost, size and weight reasons). Ground clutter, as it is called, is the irregular and constantly changing radar return from the ground itself, and it's hard for the radar (or rather, processing unit) to separate out one moving thing against a backdrop of constant "noise" like that. As soon as you go over water, especially calm water, it gets much easier to detect the aircraft. So if you can get under the missile and over a hilly forrest you have an advantage. Getting under the missile, but over a calm lake, is about the same as letting it track you on the backdrop of empty sky.

[@heatblast876]

​@joseglenn20, why? Because the match could have been a better and more intense fight.

[@Russet_Mantle]

Funny how the Su-57 was externally carrying 2 massive missiles and still able to lock you before you even detect him. Those Russian missiles must have stealth-improving capabilities.

[@gee-o8e]

We do. But they don't.

[@user-re4jf2sb4q]

Imagine how dangerous the Russians would have been if they didnt have to start again when the USSR fell and if they didnt live through perpetual western sanctions...

[@dastroyadagod7858]

Womp womp

[@oligerolsen2533]

This is commercial a simulator. You say like this is the real deal with actual military data

[@jacktough]

NOTHING gets me hyped like that first Sonic Boom 💥

[@adamspgoot]

Its such an awesome sound, especially when your in the cockpit.

[@jacobcones2803]

I was not expecting to see a SU-57 to disintegrate like that

[@Ankhobo]

Happens pretty often on this channel actually

[@_vortech_]

Russian build quality

[@jacobcones2803]

@@Ankhobo been here for a while never seen a SU-57 disintegrate like that

[@chrismaverick9828]

I think he was supersonic when it hit. Maybe DCS has a damage model for that.

[@madmax2069]

​@@jacobcones2803 the plane going poof like that definitely has happened a few times before.

[@gwcrispi]

Here's how to best protect your AWACS..., tell it to go land.

[@gwcrispi]

@@pyronuke4768 Point is, he didn't need it.

[@keithhudspith5245]

​@@pyronuke4768 *glances at mission editor options*

[@Տիգրան-ժ1է]

And why the hell does the Su-57 need AWACS?

[@atigerclaw]

"I'm in a snowstorm here." _Precipitation!_ The Raptor's one weakness...

[@Homobikerus]

What about thunderstorms? Or was it F35's no go...

[@FA-18ESuperHornet-jm7my]

If i remember correctly, the F-22 is an all weather air superiority stealth fighter. The B-2 spirit and the F-35 are the ones who have a bit of a struggle in rain.

[@Hyposonic]

@@FA-18ESuperHornet-jm7my Their much cheaper RAM struggles a bit more in some regimes, but is more easily replaced--hence the design choice to use it.

[@PhantomP63]

Isn’t that an urban legend from the early days of F-117 public knowledge?

[@F-22Raptor222]

Are you gonna be kidding me.

[@CharlieThunder24]

As an eternal fan of naval terminology and the age of sail I dig the use of "put it on the beam" as a term for flying perpendicular to the track of the incoming missile.

[@andersjjensen]

Thanks. I'm new to the channel (And air combat in general. I was in the artillery) and there is a whole lot of lingo that I'm trying to piece together.

[@theflightguy8726]

@@andersjjensenGS has a bunch of air combat basics videos if I remember correctly that explain some of these concepts; you might wanna seek some out

[@andersjjensen]

@@theflightguy8726 Thanks!

[@Greasy__Bear]

I watched a video about the Su57 that explained the design principles. The primary goal of the project was to counter stealth aircraft, and a significant part of the budget was spent on neutralizing stealth. One example of this is using l band radar which lacks the precision to target, but has much greater range at the same power level, and is capable of tracking stealth aircraft, at range. My theory is they use Lband radar to narrow the search window of thier asea radar, allowing to focus all the power of thier radar on a tiny area.

[@Willl_b_]

9:18 LMAO that aim 120 completely disappeared the felon

[@murph3194]

That Felon just vanished into the Multiverse I think. lol Well done.

[@nicholasspecialmusic]

10:09 It's possible I hit him and he FELON to the water 🤣

[@robthames5065]

I don’t get it…

[@BigDaddyG1738]

​@@robthames5065he fell into the water. FELON into the water lmao.🤣

[@BigDaddyG1738]

Don't worry I get it the other guy is clueless🤣😂

[@subpilot1000]

To say that your "missile finds him" is a wee bit of an understatement!!!

[@dasboototto]

No electrons were hurt while making this video.

[@timothysysko]

Dang. Here early. You should do the Su-25 v Su-57 since you've done the F-22 v A-10

[@thegreenmamba100]

I was watching through some of the old IL-2 stuff, love to see more of that sometime soon sir!

[@jamesm1242]

That Felon glitched when it got hit by that AMRAAM 😳

[@jancecd8466]

Su 57 down

[@NoTBeta-bo4nc]

Didn’t expect the felon to just disintegrate like that lol

[@TurbineFlyer]

I am seeing a serious parallel here with the Seawolf class submarine vs the Akula ore even the Yasen

[@theo4281]

I heard those Russians shouting in my head when the second amraam hit them "BLYAT"

[@chrismaverick9828]

I'm surprised three got out.

[@ZaphodOddly]

🤭🤣🤭👍💯

[@BlakeJoy]

Damn, that fox 3 straight up juiced him

[@mr_e_monkey8836]

Pulp free!

[@caseyhille8293]

F22 said," POOF BE GONE"

[@djsonicc]

* F22 smacks lips * "...I'd intercept me"

[@Hungary_0987]

Ah, fellow well cultured man

[@andy467menis]

Hey, I would love to see the tac-view come back sometimes. Was always a good visual on where the missiles got defeated etc..

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Are you really using reverse psychology on these confidence seeking missiles? 😆

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

LOOOL

[@kxrsed9812]

Just saw the Raptor today at an air show, it’s unbelievable.

[@Nanosuit37]

The Kid to the Felon, "So if you're lonely, you know I'm here waiting for you. "

[@aland7236]

You've gotta get someone to sneak up on your left side in a Raptor and mutter "Clever Girl" just before getting smoked.

[@BigDaddyG1738]

NGAD VS EVERYTHING! Heavy Mountain Terrain

[@herbderbler1585]

The fact that anyone was able to parachute out of that AWACS while it was spinning and burning completely out of control is a miracle.

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 54

[@lodis5811]

Would be nice to see you flying the su57 to see how you would use the hypersonics!!!

[@RT42069]

He has a few videos of him fighting F-22s and Eurofighters in the Felon

[@matthewjohnson6938]

"Vaporized... blown out to sea" - dude got absolutely starched

[@TheThewulasvegas]

“Lemme show you a magic trick. I’m gonna make a Felon disappear. POOF! GONE!”

[@andydufresne431]

I hope we are going to see Turkish made KAAN on DCS soon. I am so impatient to see her performance during BVR and VWR conflicts

[@aod8770]

Yeah but im from turkey and because of economic reasons i dont see the fighter becoming a reality in numbers i am hopefull but its what happened with turkeys altay tank sometimes it is just to get some atention from voters

[@charlesrichardson8635]

It will be fun to revisit this once the AIM260 is on DCS since the F22 is first in line!

[@timrogers2638]

I've come to like the BVR engagement videos more than the dogfight videos. There's a completely different skill set at play in the BVR engagements, including a little bit of suspense about whether or not a BVR missile shot is going to find its target, and I find it very compelling.

[@skyjaythefirst7331]

10:10 I guess you could say he FELON to the water!

[@billyhw5492]

Groan.

[@cgallagher04]

They say their low freq radar can detect it but I highly doubt it can get enough of a return to get a lock.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

It's a resolution thing. Imagine having a rifle scope that can't see camouflaged animal, then having a thermal scope that can see a blurry heat spot. You can shoot at it, but if it's blurry, you might not hit it.

[@cgallagher04]

@@kerbalairforce8802 radar is my job, I just think it’s funny everyone thinks they can defend against an F-22 until it’s in their backyard.

[@cgallagher04]

@@kerbalairforce8802 but to your point low freq radars aren’t putting out and receiving the number of pulses needed to get a high res return to get a track for a firing solution.

[@raketny_hvost]

​@@cgallagher04 this fancy shit is being told for a centuries, each time before "general Moroz" comes in

[@SammywiseG]

That missile into the tree struck its target. Some squirrel named Rocky.

[@glenngaylor3035]

Natasha was mortified.

[@chrismaverick9828]

Holy smokes, that was scary. :D

[@treyhelms5282]

Now vhere is moose?

[@TheFly212]

AIM-120D-3 is what the F-22 would be carrying and soon the AIM-260 JATM which will out shoot everything and everyone, basically making the F-22 truly invincible for years to come.

[@GoodGuyDevin]

the r-77 will be coping and seething if it could

[@isaac77655]

You know what does need the aim 260, the f15EX, it would be an absolute machine with 12 of those strapped to its wings

[@bobkoroua]

Great news big brother 🦅🇺🇲🇳🇿

[@Sbinott0]

@@isaac77655you’re not gonna believe this

[@madmax2069]

​@@isaac77655 lmao every time I see F15EX I see something else entirely.......

[@Ginuwine-kx2iv]

GS, I believe you are one of the best PC pilots i've ever seen. You rock, and thanks again for your content.

[@capapofa]

All of you talking about how stealthy the F22 is, but just look. The Su57 disappeared without a trace

[@entropy11]

9:21 well dang I didn't expect him to do that Hope he enjoys the Shadow Realm

[@patrolpilot3756]

Hahahaha, he turned into pink mist leaving you, "wait, what?"

[@j100j]

Fun fact: you can blend into ground clutter... ...if you get shot down.

[@Zane-u1u]

This is so freakin underrated

[@muratbozkurt5967]

Still do not understand how R-37M missiles manage to get within few miles of an F-22 (tracking it all the time) but seem to miss at the last moment while the radar signature of the F-22 should be at the maximum. Ground clutter + chaff explains it all? Great video as always!

[@galendetta2334]

The radar isn’t as good in a missile seeker plus aspect change combined with what you’ve already said would be my guess

[@panterka.f]

this is a simulation.

[@kerbalairforce8802]

After the missile booster runs out, it's slowing down. If it constantly has to turn to chase the 22, it's losing speed even more. Eventually, it just can't turn with enough energy to keep chasing the 22.

[@aod8770]

Also the r37m hypersonic missile is intended to kill targets like tankers and awacs planes so it is not really good at making precise manuevers to keep up with fast and manueverable aircraft like f22 if you watch the f22 vs mig31 vid you will get what i mean

[@901ran]

was eating cereal and this came up lets go

[@snugglyhugs8698]

et tu? *noms on granola*

[@97BuckeyeGuy]

Damn! That Felon exploded!

[@MilitaryTechNerd006]

That missile trisected bro thats craaazy☠️💀

[@erikcourtney1834]

Good luck seeing a bumblebee in a snow storm….

[@Cars-N-Jets]

Thanks for uploading this the day I saw the F22 Demo in my home state. My ears are still recovering….

[@audioelitist3677]

I mean, the F22 isn't winning the beauty contest between the two. Love your videos by the way.

[@scottcooper4391]

We really need to get the AIM260 into production 😁

[@brianluna3982]

Would you consider a tip of the spear type mission against every top tier Russian asset i.e. s400 su57 su35 su27 and AWACS and go after a ballistic missile compound with several f22/35/15ex.. top tier vs top tier???

[@yamamancha]

That hit on the Felon caught me by surprise.

[@NickArcieri]

Su-57 literally went invisible

[@ooo_Kim_Chi_ooo]

Just like real life they are invisible, because they aren't around.

[@xaxsimplexescapex]

true stealth achieved

[@heatblast876]

​kimchi2780, the same thing goes to F22, and it mostly tries to crash in land and ground. It has good accident records. They get hugh tax payment for that.

[@thyunholysinner5389]

@@heatblast876there’s a lot more f22s though lol

[@heatblast876]

@@thyunholysinner5389 Yeah, like there's more F35 than F22, F35 will crush F22 in BVR match. Now cry.

[@jkil218]

SU just completely disappeared. Nice magic trick.

[@madmax2069]

That's their stealth kicking in.

[@TheLermaJ]

I worked as a crew chief on the exact F-22 GS is flying. Langley AFB.

[@trevorsmith2006]

Were you and Habitual Line Crosser been sharing notes?

[@rmorris5604]

It seems like it’s not the F22 vs Su 57. It’s the F22 vs the Russian missile and the Su 57 vs the American missile. Both the F22 and the Su57 launch missiles at each other before either is destroyed. Neither airplane attempts to kill the missile chasing them. Whoever wins on defense against the missile wins the battle. The airplanes have ceased to be in the dogfight with their opponent but are in something like a dogfight against the incoming missile.

[@zoltand.6711]

It's funny how the F22's cockpit has animated vibration upon missile launch when zoomed into the HUD, despite ejection is done by pheumatics with the use of AVEL, which should not transfer vibration onto the airframe.

[@Fearless0813]

You said " He Felon to the water" hehehe

[@slimj091]

I can't imagine how nerve wracking it would be to not have confirmation of a kill in a stealth on stealth fight.

[@Aem2512]

10:10 And he “Felon” to the water, LOL!

[@themigmadmarine]

Now that there are two dedicated fighters in it, would be fun to see some videos in Nuclear Option from you

[@mytubehkjt]

"He Felon to the water".. Lol..

[@pmgvictor4625]

8:47 Random beehive doing last preparations for the winter.

[@tonyennis1787]

This is the first time I have seen the Felon do something other than lawn-dart when it is destroyed.

[@mongo1528]

I would like to see a 4 ship battle no allies between F-22, SU-57, J-20 and SU-35, Starting From North, South, East, and West, fight though all fighters to kill remaining AWACS. I think it would be interesting to see who wins.

[@WasserstoffheizungYT]

With this birds electro optical ir and real dogfights back on the table ^^

[@F15EX_Eagle_II]

I was really hoping the title would be "F-22 Raptor Vs Su-57 | Severely outmatched | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |" I would've died laughing at that title

[@Boppinabe]

10:08 "...it's possible he...'Felon to'...the water?"

[@Danko05]

Great video GS would love to see you doing the same in the Felon.

[@allanonyoutube]

Every 5th generation jet fighter air combat is like a black magic, electromagnetics black magic to be specific. Everything that are relevant is always about radars, where RCS is too "over-prioritized" rather than flight envelope.

[@Reddoguk]

I wonder if missiles that can reacquire targets on it's own are dangerous to friendlies too. Or do the missile have some sort of technology to never target a friendly?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

That’s correct they can indeed target friendlies. That’s why you shouldn’t shoot a fox3 into an area where you have a lot of friendlies

[@dylanpark4284]

Man you should start equipping the Raptor with the AIM-260. It’s only a matter of time until they’re in full production.

[@Tennessee1981]

The missles are soooo hidden which is amazing, because we dont need to show the emnemy our arsenal to scare them, that scares them off just as much

[@billisaacs702]

Nice piece of flying. Straighten me out here... the R37 seems much easier to defeat for a nimble aircraft like a fighter because it's just too fast to turn with it if the pilot knows his stuff. Wouldn't the Ivan have been better off shooting the R77 (73?) at the Raptor, and saving the 37 for the AWACS?

[@knndyskful]

👏 let’s Go GS! Get one for the good guys

[@Matisaro]

@9:15 "let me show you a magic trick.......and....its....gone!"

[@GoodGuyDevin]

i will never not watch the 2 leading 5th gen aircraft dogfight :)

[@leeh9420]

That was a whack explosion on the Felon. Did one of his missiles detonate??

[@Максим-с6с8ж]

Amazing video 👏!!! Thanks!!!

[@bored7984]

You should do a free for all, of the F-22, Su-57, and the J20

[@brycewilson5594]

Great kill, terrific flight!

[@Ryan-go6id]

The Su-57 combustion cracks me up every time

[@davidwillmore]

Why do you always bank left after firing?

[@mmancino1982]

Snowstorm: hope you didn't like that RAM coating🤭

[@cszabo8899]

The real kicker is that the Raptor is OLD tech. Yet look at that airframe. Look at how it dominates.

[@nfrandom007]

F22: Would you interspect me. I'd interspect me

[@HudsonKruger27]

9:16 did not expect the Su-57 to vanish the second it got hit.

[@ThePadadada]

Always expect the best of your enemy if the russians say they can see then act like it never get complacent

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

This is 100% the correct attitude. And if they COULD see they were silly to tell you but since they did treat it like a fact and don’t underestimate your foe. This is 100% the correct attitude to have something that is in verrrrrry low supply these days with everyone believing a lot of the propaganda out there.

[@snugglyhugs8698]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Exactly. From a "Math" gamer point of view, think of it as "If I don't defend, and it can find me, then I lose. If I do defend and it can find me, I might not lose. If I do defend and it can't see me then I win. Broiling it down: IF I defend, I maximize my chances of winning. IF I don't defend, then I maximize my chances of losing. Defend anyway."

[@abba-Flammenfresser]

F22: “There’s no running for this”-GS

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

F-22 v SU-57 I think at least 90-95% of the time the F-22 is winning based on your videos. I might be way off but this is what I remember. It might be more for the F-22 but good job defeating it and I know you are cautious, which is always good, but you smashed it. F-22 is still king in my eyes, until they do better with the F-35 in DCS it will continue to win. Other than that, I personally think this controversial statement that the F-35 would win In BVR. The only issue is they don't hold enough missiles.

[@Cybernetic_Systems]

Is the new E-7 Wedgetail AWACS in DCS yet? Boeing and Northrop Grumman did an incredible job developing this platform for the Aussie RAAF, so much so that there is a USAF version in the works to replace the E3.

[@Stix1_1]

10:10 ''felon to the water'' lol