Imagine How Good The F-15 Eagle Could Have Been... | F-22 Raptor Vs F-15 STOL/MTD DOGFIGHT | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@maximilian_3933]

Nice video man!

[@numberyellow]

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

[@amish-ish]

I loved this video, bud! The historical preamble was an excellent addition.

[@dutchstig9675]

you know how dcs has that inputs overlay to see your registered inputs. would love to see a vid with that turned on, if else only to showcase that flying isn't just pull on stick ... profit.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@numberyellow lol have you given up? Haven't seen you post anything in a while?

[@joonyah8904]

Putting these different planes against the F-22 feels the same as "But can he beat Goku"

[@yono367]

Kiryu would solo Goku

[@Xinocho-Mito]

Which Kiryu?

[@personM4N]

"Hey, F-15 STOL/MTD...I heard your maneuverability power level is pretty strong"

[@Spinex0196]

@@yono367 what kiryu?

[@jamesmaddison4546]

Kaaa...meee...haameee.......haaaaaa😅

[@theboz8161]

You're one of the few content creators that actually listens and responds to viewers' suggestions. Thank you.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

It’s my pleasure, and thank you to you guys for giving good suggestions, makes the video production process a lot easier/more enjoyable

[@silverblueshadow]

@@GrowlingSidewinder please do a 15ex +fbw against viper and 18e and such!

[@Anarchy_420]

​@@GrowlingSidewinder Yo😅 I've been asking for this one for quite some time now- Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM!🙏

[@ryanrundell8538]

I second this. I've asked about the F15 STOL several times. Ty!!

[@jonathanstrock9909]

⁠@@Anarchy_420yes or the f15stol vs the su57 fellon

[@ПавелРапопорт]

GS: Are you interested in overshoot? Raptor: *launches missile* GS: You know, you could’ve just say “No”

[@parsafarjammusic28]

😂

[@danielpraise8057]

😂

[@Mav09]

😂

[@nymalous3428]

As much as I like the duels, combats, and other missions, that little bit of documentary history of the F15 STOL was my favorite part of the video. I never knew that about the plane. Thanks for sharing!

[@jessejacobsen01]

Came here to say this.

[@happyreaper11]

This, completely!!

[@TomSarh]

Ah yes the famous F15-STD 7:55

[@ПавелРапопорт]

F-15 HD 1080p

[@truthseeker9454]

Good catch! 😆

[@ShovelMonkey]

@@ПавелРапопорт The F-16 CCD is a good contender.

[@SirAtesh]

If he gets your 6, you get infected!

[@skyhorseprice6591]

And the infamous F-15 D/MN/TIZD😱🤣😹😂🤤😅😆🛩️🤟🤣🤣

[@LIGHTNING278TH]

10:30 Thanks for clearing the snow off of the driveway.

[@wren7195]

LOL yeah, that poor dude in the green house sitting there with his coffee and just watching an F-15 coming THIS close to being part of his living room

[@bradulovic82]

14:49 "Fat Lady Singing..." 🤣🤣🤣

[@williamsbenavides7077]

JAJAJAJAJJAJA

[@h3llrayzor59]

@@williamsbenavides7077 The fat lady singing part made me laugh so loud the Wifey asked me "What the hell is going on?"... Oh nothing honey, just guy stuff 🤣🤣🤣

[@mikepillittere7486]

🤣😂

[@williamsbenavides7077]

@@h3llrayzor59 i don't speak English xD bro, the "fat lady singing" is XD idk English sorryyyyyy

[@STRIKER2711]

twice XD

[@danielbateman6518]

I asked for this in the other recent f15 video, got 0 likes so I thought we wouldn't see it against the f22. But here we are... Can't wait to see how this plays out!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I saw many of you guys asking for it, so here it is. Thanks for the suggestions. Always appreciate you guys dropping your suggestions in the comment section.

[@onegg04]

That last round the F-22 really went: “Catch!”

[@TheJuggtron]

Hold this for me

[@RAXax]

Really enjoy the format with the spotlight mini doc on a featured plane followed by a mission or fight. Great vid.

[@ShovelMonkey]

And he needs to bring back the Tac-view Debrief.

[@loganproksch9305]

@@ShovelMonkey and show every fight not just the ones he wins😉 jk I know he wins them all lol

[@darrell9546]

Heck yeah. Put the canards and thrust vectoring on the latest version, call it the F-15 SEX.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

🖤🖤🤣😂🤤🤟😹

[@Mr.Spade1]

The sex Eagle 2

[@xphxntomx]

"CEO of Sex announces the F-15SEX"

[@ПавелРапопорт]

How about demonstrators duel? F-15 STOL/MTD vs Su-47?

[@cesarespinozaspain]

I've been asking for this after the 1st Su47 vid and F-15 stol/ mtd vid also

[@CNCMatrix]

Yes.

[@calebswanson7012]

That would be a hell of a great fight.

[@208SledHead]

The F14 has my heart, but if I had to pick a ride-or-die aircraft, and I couldn't pick an F22, it'd be the F15EX. Incredible radar, incredible power, can limp it home missing one wing....I freakin adore this airplane.

[@MichelVaillancourt]

I think the thing that catches my attention most about this is how most videos with the F22 is just a series of summary executions reformatted to be a slam-dunk competition. All of these fly-outs were actually hard fights that allowed substantially longer time-in-mission than I'd have guessed at.

[@karlstathakis7786]

"The [F-22] will have the same tactical advantage over the F-15, that the F-15 has over the Goodyear blimp." -- Dell Jacobs

[@pushedtophat6180]

The F-15 ACTIVE is one of my favorite aircraft ever, cool to see it can hold its own against an F-22

[@Bobo_Plantain]

That Ghost Grey camo on the demonstrator looks amazing. Makes you wonder what a "production variant" might have looked like.

[@yubisnake]

Mfw just using F18 stabilators as casual canard. Imagine if it had been fully optimized and developed from the ground up

[@andersjjensen]

When he said "stolen.... or, eh, borrowed" I couldn't help picture a crew chief scratching his head while looking at an F-18 with it's rudders missing.

[@Rose_Butterfly98]

​@@andersjjensen isn't it the elevators and not the rudders?

[@Patrick-zr8tv]

I'd imagine it would be similar to an f-22 even with decades between their times of development.

[@jensonhartmann3630]

@@Rose_Butterfly98 yes, i think he just goofed up lol

[@benn454]

McDonnell Douglas manufactured both the Eagle and Hornet, so they just grabbed whatever they had sitting on the shelf.

[@itsdokko2990]

bro, round 3 was straight out some main-character type of move

[@zxcven]

enjoyed the history recap at the beginning, you should do this more often !

[@JH-hh5jm]

that first kill was insane, never seen a missile loop that hard

[@tuunaes]

Just search Python 5 videos of GS... (go to front/main page of GS and put Python 5 into search field)

[@covahredro8370]

If it had gone into production, I'd have nicknamed it Seraphim, due to its six wings.

[@remain_]

That's tight.

[@Meyer-gp7nq]

That’s a freaking awesome name if I ever heard one

[@mr.highschoollocksmith6080]

8:32 The missile definitely knew where it was that day.

[@b.c.d3795]

The slip-up where you almost said “F-15 STD” was hilarious! 😂

[@Thattunasmell]

It can still be improved, it’s time isn’t done yet

[@loganproksch9305]

The production variant is called the F-22. Stealth, super cruise, its the whole 9 yards and then some. I will admit though that F-15 does look good with some upgrades.

[@GoodGuyDevin]

@@loganproksch9305 f-22 is pretty much an eagle it followed the same concepts...... giant f'ing wings and the most powerful engines in the world for the time, just less hardpoints and the drawbacks of stealth.

[@timsullivan4566]

Interesting to see your aviation history documentary-style blended with your usual 1st-person flight mission upload. to provide context. Works well! 👍👍👍

[@cedric_KFN]

Hell yeah! Thanks for delivering on what me and many others asked for! Love the F15 STOL MTD and love you! Can't get enough of both!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Much love brother

[@remain_]

That title is a mouthful. Can we just name it Joe? Or maybe Greg?

[@the_algo_rhythm]

For real though- that differential thrust rollover was ridiculous. Well done.

[@Avera9eWh1teShark6]

watching you get in that tight downward roller is like watching two eagles fighting where they hook claws in a death spiral.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

F-15: "I could have been a KING!" F-22: "I was already a god."

[@FlintIronstag23]

A dogfight between the F-15E and Su-34 might be interesting since they are both strike aircraft based on air superiority fighters.

[@nifeshoyinka4336]

I don’t know if anyone else has said this yet, but I love these historical recap intros. Please do more of them

[@BlitztankYT]

the STOL MTD might be my favourite looking fighter of all time. That livery is so damn cool

[@BlitztankYT]

@@specc_s1452 ?

[@dannileigh6426]

Imagine sitting in your second story apartment and hearing a roar only to see an F-15 pass below your window 😳

[@LordHolley]

I can't help but feel that with a little more seat time, you'd become quite nasty with that plane.

[@skyhorseprice6591]

Damn straight. And, @GrowlingSidewinder, a lot of us would be ever so joyous if you decided to do just that- become proficient in the S/MTD and use it against everything that flies!

[@MrErictank]

Always love to see the STOL/MTD. 4/2 to a Raptor is still pretty good for an aircraft physically built in the mid/late 70s.

[@WorsteBrooike1900]

Please everyone, the bots have started to appear in this comment section. Please do not respond to accounts with pictures of undR wear because if we do the whole comment section will be taken over in no time :(

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

They’ve been here for a while, don’t worry I delete those stupid comments on sight.

[@WorsteBrooike1900]

@@GrowlingSidewinder Thanks for the vid btw ;)

[@Richard-f4b4r]

Like so many other channels!

[@murph3194]

That Rd 3 kill was like areal Jujitsu. Very impressive rolling over the Raptor like that. Well done.

[@bobstratton101]

I'm starting to wonder if the 9x looping has something to do with launch speed. These super-maneuverable dogfights are getting slower and slower, and we are seeing more and more 9x loop kills.

[@jimmyjohnjames6397]

I think it's a combination of slow speed and how close they are. They're SO close the 9x not only has energy to loop it's actually still under power.😮

[@Casual7646]

Basically a normal f15 but on steroids

[@a88asabofadhil41]

Indeed 😂

[@MartinSparks-ef9gr]

Now it's a normal F-15 with hemmaroids.....

[@droman608]

F-15 EX: “Am I a joke to you?”

[@BrianTRice77]

“Buff Eagle” 🦅 💪

[@2ksnakenoodles]

F-15 on crack and speed

[@smugfrog8111]

Your mini-doc type videos are some of the best on KZbin. Make more please.

[@erikcourtney1834]

There’s a good reason they ditched all the 3d vectoring and canards for a reason. Other countries are just now following behind our developments

[@TheJuggtron]

It's a cost benefit- if you build for mass combat, individual performance doesn't matter as much.

[@CollinTheSav]

That F-15 differential kill grants you awards for style points

[@789Lita]

Love your write up/documentary style videos ❤

[@harryswinburne9288]

I can't wait for the F-15 EX-EAGLE 2 video when it becomes a thing

[@SliceofLife7777]

The F15 tech demonstrator lacks the Raptor's Pratt and Witney F119 engines. There are a few reasons why this type of super-cruise engine should have been used in the F35 in all but the vertical takeoff version. I remember seeing this F15 back in the early 90s in an article. I thought all subsequent F15s would be built similarly. But, like the F16XL, the Airforce didn't use it. Thanks for explaining why.

[@Frontier327]

I love these types of videos that are historical hypotheticals. I find the little history lesson really fascinating and you should do more stuff with experimental aircraft like this.

[@crispy_338]

I really love the history sections at the start of these vids. Makes the gameplay much more grounded in reality.

[@stephenhoda3362]

That was a treat! 42kt stall speed! You keep bringing the goods. Thanks for the diligence. Great work ethic. Very inspiring.

[@intrinia]

10:17 Is this a flying chrismas tree, Mommy? No Sonny Jim, that's a lunatic in a F15 STOL MTD.

[@Richard-f4b4r]

Your content is first rate! Thank you for your videos and commentary!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

My pleasure thank you for watching.

[@SmilingCamperVan-dd8cb]

Awesome video. I really appreciate the mini-doc in the beginning. The upgraded F-15 is particularly interesting. McDonnell Douglas did offer up an upgraded Eagle , the F-15XX, which used most of the F-15SMTD technology. USAF, didn't bite. They wanted nothing that would threaten ATF.

[@angrydragon4574]

How did the F-15S threaten the ATF? Wasn't that program 4th gen?

[@seangfoster1974]

“I think I can hear a fat lady s…” *BOOM*! That had me in stitches! 🤣🤣🤣

[@anthonywhite5642]

Love your videos! I have followed for a few years now. I like the combination of jet facts, explanations for BFM, and the comedy! I do hope to see more of Longshot soon. You two push great content. All the best!

[@LancerKnight00]

I think the F/A-18 and F-16 also had some high maneuverability tech demonstrators as well.

[@the_algo_rhythm]

The supermaneuverable Viper was amazing.

[@WinVisten]

Correct. F/A-18 HARV and F-16 VISTA.

[@the_algo_rhythm]

@@WinVisten Wasn't the VISTA the first aircraft to demonstrate true decoupled flight?

[@angrydragon4574]

​@@the_algo_rhythmAny idea why the VISTA never took off into the production line? (Pun intended.)

[@PegasusTenma1]

@@the_algo_rhythm Yeah that thing was a UFO. Did better Cobras than Flankers

[@Twig-qf9zp]

Two birds, legendary dogfight

[@stonedguy21]

Love the little history lesson at the start. Would love to see a few more about other jets. Keep up the great videos dude.

[@Kaldosthesergal]

Amazing history intro. I never knew about this amazing aircraft until now!

[@TangoDeltaDelta]

Awesome compilation of info. I'd heard various parts of this before from various sources, but you put it all together very well!

[@beamerandthebeast3979]

Awsome fight!! Felt like the raptor pilot learned and said NO CHANCES!

[@originalmin]

Great combo of documentary and gameplay! Nicely done

[@RightWingNutter]

Instructive AND entertaining. Very good. Maybe one with the F15 etc. with the 360 degree nozzels?

[@Xaunoki]

I enjoy seeing the history behind the aircraft before the dogfight. Very cool!

[@MTerrence]

Gorgeous battles - these supermanoeuvrable aircraft floating in the sky like leaves on the wind. Incredible stuff.

[@loganproksch9305]

That Tokyo-drift over the top to gun kill was disgusting! My mouth was open and everything. Warn someone next time you decide to let one of those loose, ok?!

[@kevinmccorkle7476]

Nice! The history behind that F-15 was awesome.♠️

[@thomasvakyren]

Seeing any variant of the F-15 put up a fight against the Raptor is impressive, go Eagle!

[@libertylivesin1776]

I was really rooting for the F15 STOL MVD but in the end a Raptor must feast.

[@proffessorX]

That bit of info at the beginning was a great touch. I love to learn about the US planes and development, couple that with the excellent skills in your video's and you have an amazing video all round. I really love that F22, I wonder how much the F15 stol/mtd influenced the manoeuvrability of the Raptor.

[@mikeku825]

Great episode. Absolutely love the documentary style F15 intro

[@alxavier3795]

Holy Toledo! That first kill was seriously unexpected!! Great fight!!!

[@SliceofLife7777]

That was the slowest dogfight in modern jets I've seen in a simulation. That almost stall over town was crazy.

[@davidnelson5381]

Just think, you're playing outside one afternoon and out of the blue, an experimental F-15 dips down and gives you a haircut.

[@juliancain6128]

Really enjoyed the documentary + fight -great video!

[@DecidedlyNinja]

The second kill against the Raptor was some incredibly cool spaceship maneuvering.

[@Mauricio-np1us]

Great mini doc at the start, really interesting and enjoyable. Would love to get more of those, great video

[@SkyhawkCaptain]

Thank you GS, awesome video!

[@manatoa1]

I love these little documentaries.

[@jackjetpilot]

Excellent production. Thank you!

[@krystofkuh]

These are one of the best dogfights you ever did. The manuvers look awesome.

[@Ankhobo]

We don't really have to wonder how good the F-15 could have been. The F-15QA already gives us a good idea and it can still get better.

[@angrydragon4574]

What's the capabilities of that one? This is the first time I'm hearing of that variant.

[@Ankhobo]

​@@angrydragon4574 it's really just an export (and earlier) version of the EX, giving it a far superior engine and better avionics than the old C or E models. I hear that at airshows (the QA, not sure if any airshows with the EX have shown such maneuvers), it's been pulling off maneuvers you'd normally see from supermaneuverable jets. So while yes, not as impressive as the STOL/MTD, it's an improved eagle that's an actual production model.

[@scottjgray83]

They fights are incredible. Your very good at the documentaries btw, very nice.

[@Lee-sti8wrx]

Oh man, I was so hoping you were going to do this fight against an F-22, that first kill was awesome man, good job. And wo what a freak'n awesome dodge from getting shot. That F-15 is an interesting fighter, but go the F-22 man, what a beast. Shit I hope you do this fight with an FA-18, that would be a pretty sick fight. Lived this vid and the channel as always. Good on you champ.

[@swedishbones8937]

That high aoa three feet above ground manoeuvre was impressive!

[@rattledroar2426]

That little ding for the fat lady sings killed me 😂😂

[@ShovelMonkey]

Time to introduce the F-16CCV.

[@cojones8518]

The maneuvers of those planes is just insane and that first missile loop OoO

[@tylerlagarra1095]

Really really enjoy these informative portions of the videos. Great job!!

[@Acula33RC]

These history style videos are awesome GS!

[@sol2wit781]

14:53 16:34 18:28 this is why the F-22 Raptor is deadly and a jet that you not want to be messing with!

[@andersjjensen]

The Raptor's disposition seems to be that it doesn't mind, at all, if people wanna mess with it....

[@subjectc7505]

Plenty of aircraft has and won.

[@anngo4140]

I remember a Royal Malaysian Air Force pilot once said about the Raptor "it just doesn't make sense!"

[@sol2wit781]

@@subjectc7505 not true and if yes then show me. Tell me what Jet won the battle.

[@sol2wit781]

@@anngo4140 and?

[@DerkMiester]

I liked the history intro! You should do more of these in future videos!

[@truthseeker9454]

11:08 - F-15 STOL/MTD: "Hey, I'm doing pretty well here! I'm 1-0 against a Raptor! And I look really cool doing it, if I say so myself. Any other fighter would have hit the ground back there...." Raptor: Brrrrrrrrrrtttt Thanks for bringing us this fantasy matchup, GS!! 😃

[@FlyingWithSpurts]

I've talked to the people who worked on the F-15 ACTIVE (when the STOL/MTD got 3-D TVC). I asked if they upgraded the motors to F100-PW-129s, they smiled and said "bigger". I commented about the massive Hornet-Tal of a canard coupled with the TVC as giving them some pretty amazing potential to which they replied "It'll beat up on the Raptor all day in close"

[@mathewdix975]

I like how both planes are birds of prey by name.

[@warhammers]

The "Fat Lady singing" part got me LMAO. Such perfect timing.

[@shyneus9773]

LETS GOOOOOO, CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT THAT EAGLE 2 CAN DO

[@SeenAndCheese]

I like the history lesson at the beginning!

[@mhult5873]

Oh my god, did I get scared by that last 9X-hit. I did not see it launch and I was listening to your voice GS. And then BAAM in my earphones 😅I thought I had gotten used to the sudden sound of a 9X finding it´s mark by now, but no.. Anyway, more important is: thank you for another, as always, great video! And it was a nicely flown F-15 STOL for sure. Br //M

[@JC130676]

If the F-15 with 2D TVC-nozzles can at least give the F-22 a bloody nose, I wonder how much difference the 3D-nozzles would make?

[@angrydragon4574]

Hey GS, I bet on round 2 the only reason the F-22 didn't open fire was because it looked like he was about to get a maneuver kill on you. It was incredibly close too. Thanks for the video, this was a very interesting fight.