Thrust Vectoring Dogfight | F-22 Raptor Vs SU-30SM Flanker-H | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com Thank you for watching guys, hit me with your suggestions for future videos in the comment section. Much Love.

[@БогомилЙорданов-л4ч]

Please do a showcase with just flying through the most beautiful maps in your opinion with different aircraft! :)

[@toasterwolf97]

​@Zechariah Goldsworthy sounds like a cool challenge also late Japanese variance had missiles

[@jamesthestormchaser556]

Day four four of asking for j-20 Mighty dragon vs f-22 raptor

[@Kazperh]

You could do the bandit unknown series except you cant choose the same aircraft twice. Would be interesting to watch!

[@_Jake.From.Statefarm_]

GS you can see he vectored into his flares! I didn't think that would be a problem but it seems like it actually might!

[@The3Rich3]

The way the f22 and su57 seem to fall through the air like autumn leaves really reminds me of early biplanes and triplanes. They just tumble.

[@GM-fh5jp]

Yes, the Raptor has turned the flat spin from a bug to a feature.

[@attilathenun]

@@GM-fh5jp Well said lol

[@shanerooney7288]

i'm a leaf in the wind. Watch how i soar.

[@realherobrine5636]

The f-22 looks so cool in the way it flies, and how it looks

[@r2020E]

@@GM-fh5jp a somehow controlled flat spin which is ironic since flat spins are known for being pretty much irrecoverable

[@Tony-zp8xn]

It looked like the Su-30 stopped flaring for a moment, and then started again, before it suicided. I think his own missile was triggered by his own flare. How bizarre.

[@CMarkem]

Nice observation,

[@sirethanthegreat4069]

Yea that’s what I was gonna say.

[@beibei93]

How bizarre.

[@Sarruji]

@@beibei93 How bizarre

[@42ZaphodB42]

@@Sarruji Bow hizarre.

[@GT4viper]

I love how the Raptor actually flies like we thought all fighter jets did when we were young.

[@christianm1533]

His faulty missile exploded on the wing. The F-22 man. Does that to your missiles. Sheer fear.

[@arekb5951]

More like great representation of Russian "quality" 😂

[@Alexkeys141]

The missile was like “nah f*ck that”

[@profo4544]

I think the missile got confused by the heat from the chaff

[@benn454]

@@profo4544 Flare. Flares give off heat. Chaff is basically shredded up tinfoil.

[@profo4544]

@@benn454 yeah flares, what i meant.

[@bigbill810]

Hey GS, when you do the TacView reviews, I'd love to hear the other pilot over Discord explain his part of the review. I think it would be cool to know what they were thinking during certain parts of the fight.

[@0xAnomaly]

Nah he is fighting cans that dont know what they are doing

[@kennyj4366]

Yes that would be interesting.

[@Planeboi69]

That would be good

[@Neyfan66]

These fights look soooo stunning from 3rd person view. Both aircraft can do such incredible maneuvers that it's even hard to believe.

[@dimitariliyanov3680]

@@lukeingram7655 Go and watch an airshow with the raptor, keep in mind that pilots also don't show the plane's full capabilities.

[@vladlu6362]

@@dimitariliyanov3680 The RollRate and YawRate are definitely not correct on either one of the aircraft. The Sukhoi should have way superior low speed rates in both of the axis compared to the F-22. I doesn't matter how good your control surfaces are at low speed if the other can rotate the thurst vector in all directions.

[@BeingFireRetardant]

@@lukeingram7655 I have personally seen with my own eyes two F-22s mock dogfight (non airshow) in ways that completely defy physics. This Sim doesn't even come close, to an accurate representation of what I witnessed. But you believe what you want, lol.

[@MrCryingDragon]

@@lukeingram7655 Always one clown in the comment section.

[@theamericancommie727]

@@BeingFireRetardant this man is now my source

[@MeMyselfI_69]

01:35 that flip at the top...sick!

[@maxboskeljon6440]

YES! THIS IS WHAT I NEEDED! Absolutely love the su-30sm. Would definitely love more like this!

[@juangallegos6786]

I’m guessing you were in agony the whole video lol

[@FALKONDX]

@@juangallegos6786 was pure bullying xD

[@VisibilityFoggy]

@@FALKONDX DISRESPECT!

[@maxboskeljon6440]

@@juangallegos6786 lmao

[@marioatencii3659]

" I want to understand the enemy"

[@ryanh6586]

Su30: “I do not vibe with this universe” *explodes*

[@BatteredWalrus]

Ngl I would love to see a YF 23 module, there's certainly enough interest in it

[@phase1NE]

Saw her live last weekend at the Chicago Air and Water Show…. What a mind-blowing experience. The F-22 is an absolute animal

[@fruitygranulizer540]

one might call it... an absolute raptor 🥁

[@GM-fh5jp]

That Final Round double tap with the 9xs was clearly an act of maximum disrespect...and I'm here for it!

[@BeingFireRetardant]

Come, fly on my channel, I'll wipe the floor with you, it'll be great...

[@darrylsmith7871]

Now THIS is the F-22 we know and love from the airshows. I'm gonna start shopping for a joystick and throttle.

[@RockMountainYJ]

Sometimes I wonder what the Wright brothers would think of these 5th Gen fighters.

[@USN1985dos]

That Su-30 did surprisingly well considering what it's opponent was.

[@Redfvvg]

The F-22 is considered dead in this mess. He has no chance. He can only launch rockets from afar. I think in a real massacre, for many there will be a severe sobering up.

[@Remix2366]

The su-30 pilot folded tbh

[@harrylockheed79]

2:40: Let's be real, we know this guy saw the raptor coming around and clicked the "suicide" button.

[@seancooper9765]

The equivalent of shitting ones' self

[@bluearmy6847]

The F-22 is holding a great dogfight in air superiority (beside the Mirage and the Felon) but even certain aircraft can't compete with the F-22 Raptor capabilities. Maybe one day in the future we'll see an aircraft is promised to keep up a formidable performance, nice play GS.

[@dvanblaricom]

I hope this version of the F22 model is accurate. Thanks Flex for being Raptor bait for our entertainment.

[@justacomment1657]

It can't be accurate as all relevant data is still classified. I would imagine it beeing a little bit on the too good to be true side of things..

[@fightingparamecium9605]

First round I was like: "Keep on rolling my man. Just hold my 9x while you at it".

[@dnep7937]

That f-22 is something else

[@mr.z6252]

It kill the Enemu without Shooting 🤣🤣

[@dnep7937]

@@mr.z6252 😭😭

[@inorite4553]

Once again, I'm amazed by DCS as in order to have that missile malfunction and detonate on his own wing....someone had to intentionally create that malfunction system or develop a set of systems where the missile can independently make its own decisions with the possibility that it may once in a great while, make a poor choice.

[@victorshikhman]

Yes, could be. Or maybe that Su30 high-G thrust vectoring put the flare in the path of the missile just after it launched?

[@zyalixwho]

@@victorshikhman well whatever it is it was funny af lmao

[@GM-fh5jp]

opponent=GS:, detonate [right ordnance] :1/227 launch {attempts} Eagle Designs inserts this code once you get more than 345K subs (probably) ;)

[@Scott11078]

@@victorshikhman That has to be what happened, and when you look at the external replay you can see atleast 1 flare enter seeker FOV.

[@TheXeno10]

This was interesting. I think this is one of the occasions that a dogfight between these planes really depend on the pilots themselves. The AoA of these planes make it look like ur playing ace combat. I would really love to see more of it.

[@NationChosenByGod]

Better than ace combat. Ace combat does not even come close.

[@Shadowchaser_of_Unitrex]

To be fair, your main rival in AC7 uses an Su-30SM, while the protag canonically flies a Raptor soooo

[@h.cedric8157]

@@NationChosenByGod i dunno why the hate on Ace Combat. DCS is meant for extreme realism, and Ace Combat has great storytelling and campaigns. They are incomparable so i love them both.

[@TriggerVR657]

@@Shadowchaser_of_Unitrex three strikes

[@amildlydisappointingsalad6058]

What is AoA and can you explain how it makes a jet better?

[@kiwihame]

Nyet. Someone dropped cigarette near wingtip.

[@aviationmd]

1:35 just seeing how the F-22 can do that is absolutely scary

[@arnavsadhu]

Backflipping easy leaf boi

[@jakubfabisiak9810]

@@arnavsadhu I'm a leaf on the wind...

[@notadaytrader]

I see Growling Sidewinder, I see F-22, I click. No questions asked

[@siromet]

That 52 degree turn rate looked like a scandinavian flick in a rally 😱

[@soradman68]

Yeah, I'd be pretty upset if I merged with an enemy and immediately blew myself up. But, that first merge was pretty spectacular to watch. Keep up the great work, man. Watching you is always a great way to end my night.

[@Falckodotcom]

The Flanker is one of the prettiest jet fighters ever build IMO

[@skyhorseprice6591]

I agree. I love the Flankers, such beautiful, deadly things.

[@ecoop20]

They are, but I think the Tomcat has it beat

[@gruntworx5955]

God bless Russia for there aircraft.plz grace us with yr beauty

[@foxywinterfox7575]

I do agree, I love the Flanker variants from the design for purpose.

[@CalvinMaclure]

Tac debrief on the 22 be like "he turned. I turned more. He dead."

[@xavierrivera6390]

They way you engage with us is great, you always state what you’re seeing and what you’re trying to accomplish in the mist of engagement. Quality content.

[@drunknnirish]

The F-22 is so amazing it causes other planes to splash themselves.

[@Buterytissuflap]

I will never get tired of seeing the F-22

[@shaymcquaid]

The F22's AB's illuminating the rudders/verticals is S I C K !

[@werovargas6958]

The f22 is the definition of making it look easy

[@TiredOfHumans]

it’s like watching someone trying to dogfight a leaf

[@TLBgaming0330]

The F-22 is so advanced it can fool enemy missiles into exploding the enemy aircraft as soon as the enemy launches it’s missile

[@Thomas-zc4vh]

Hey Growling Sidewinder! I watch all of your videos and would like to see F-16 vs I-16. The I-16 was a very good plane and fought well and hard. I would love to see this fight! Thanks!

[@GTAVALE]

Meh prop vs jet fights always end the same, Prop more manouverable in the horizzontal but looses energy too quickly, jet is unbeatable if it goes vertical

[@christopherschroeder4096]

@@GTAVALE I dunno, the P51 vs F22 was quite enjoyable.

[@mr.abrams8112]

i16 was dog shit lmao

[@frostgc]

*loses

[@GTAVALE]

@@christopherschroeder4096 well i agree with that cause seing the f22 outturn the P51 was insane

[@AbcdEfgh-sq2tf]

The low speed control of the F22 is impressive. The Su-30SM was too heavy and its engines isn't strong enough

[@craigbringman7967]

Yea the F-22 Raptor is more agile

[@kaydenchan7093]

The F-22 is actually heavier than the Su-30SM. I think it’s heavier than any flanker out there.

[@owenlee4080]

GS always seems so impressed with a Flanker's supermaneuverability as if my cat doesn't routinely cobra while pouncing for a feather toy

[@exile7083]

I think the flare being so close to the missle at launch is what triggered it.

[@ludoonus7859]

This is like watching two very large leaves fight each other xD

[@loumencken9644]

It amazes me that the F-22 first flew 25 years ago (1997). What must be possible today with 25 years of technological advancement?

[@charlesselrachski34]

super f22 ?

[@clapanse]

The NGAD will be truly ridiculous. I can't wait until its capabilities become public.

[@murph3194]

2:43 I think the SU 30 looked at the Raptor and got so terrified that it hit the self destruct button on purpose. lol

[@2Phast4Rocket]

The Russian missile reliability is modeled so realistically. It is scary

[@ath_i]

Oohh u Americans thinks so and fear russian 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@PeterMuskrat6968]

@@ath_i lmao, the media loves to fearmonger to get clicks. I think we should find a way to remotely disable all Russian Nuclear weapons so we can Invade them and take Moscow within a few months.

[@shaycormac1745]

@@ath_i what

[@jaek__]

@@ath_i avg Russian cope once again

[@robertallison9653]

@7:06 I love the dominate overkill of two missiles launched only by tone! F-22 is amazing!

[@nomar5spaulding]

What a strange fight. Some of those moves don't even look like an airplane flying. They actually almost resemble a space craft.

[@Rohanology27]

Watching the F22/Su57 just point themselves freely in space makes me sure that the parent researcher of aerodynamics is experiencing turbulence in their grave.

[@user-dx4hb5le4v]

Love to see you get some other retired pilots fly against you

[@ericward4028]

Let's see a 2v1 guns only dogfight. Ex. 1 f22 vs 2 mig 29s. I think the f22 would struggle but it would be interesting.

[@GVK-jm9sg]

Nah it wouldn’t

[@brokko_le3]

What a massacre. Poor Sukhoi. The 30SM is such a beautiful plane. Clearly, beauty isn't everything.

[@sovietkrab1871]

nah

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

GS, I like how you just let the piano play towards the end of the TAC view just to let it all sink in.

[@kryo101]

At last, letting the tack view run without stopping it, thank you, please keep doing that

[@benn454]

Su-30: Go kill that F-22 Missile: YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD! *explodes*

[@michaelbosisto6259]

The fox 2 that he took himself out, is exactly how a dogfight with Russia would be like… very realistic

[@lonew0lfclaw859]

That last kill was the definition of maximum overkill.

[@b2tall239]

That Raptor backflip is pretty impressive. I almost got airsick just watching it! 😁

[@SJstackinbodys]

2:52 DCS getting extra realistic about Russian equipment reliability

[@fridgetate7182]

Awesome video, I love your f-22 content. I would love to see f-22 vs f-35 bvr missions.

[@Cerberus256]

The SU seems to be partial to a flat spin when pushing it too hard which was its downfall on a couple of occasions.

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Such a great channel, admitting to being a fanboy is the way to oneness! I really want the TV version but have yet to figure out how to download mods. Have a great day brother, love your vids, NEVER been disappointed. I would love some more of the historical based vids where you give us a history lesson with some amazing visuals!

[@NationChosenByGod]

It is not a fanboy if something is that good.

[@erikreddington461]

Your a great channel! How dare you! (It doont hafe to make sense, sensei, I'm talking oover here-ah!) Yeah, sorry, I'm tired, had too much coffee. I'm better than this...and strictly speaking so are you.

[@erikreddington461]

So now that I've apologized, now it's your turn. Tell the people what you did. Some may forgive you, but don't expect even half. I mean, you know what happened, what you did. Would you forgive?

[@erikreddington461]

@@NationChosenByGod and you! He's going through enough and you just gotta poop on a man while he's down. You feel like a big man...Carl? Do ya? Make me sick...I'm throwing up. Disgusting, horribly unconscionable, scion of

[@erikreddington461]

@@NationChosenByGod ... Scion of unbecoming trepidation! Look at me, I'm fanboy-ing over here, wit my fanboyisms, and boys who are also fans, Carl! See now the boys are involved. And they want to fanboy you, so what are your u gonna do now...FANBOY! Are ya asking for autographs today or trying to sign some. See what you did...Carl! A stranger Carl (or fanboy)! In his.....would you do this Carl? A stranger, in his....

[@darylcav6285]

There you are, out in the field doing some farming and you see a battle like that above you… not much farming today

[@Dusther210]

This video was so cool!! These two aircrafts are amazing… such an incredible matchup! And that faulty missile in round 2 made it extra interesting! Thank you GS and flex

[@SirScottland]

What’s crazy is the F-22 is late 80’s early 90’s tech and design. Imagine 6th gen, Jeezus.

[@danielberger1378]

I like the concept of going in offensive/defensive/parrallel. Please do more of these

[@deadhand11]

I know a pilot who actually shot an f22 with a su30mki in an exercise btn Indian and American armed forces some months back. Not once but thrice in a row. I even know the American pilot who was flying the f22. We three are good friends

[@SHARDK2]

The Su-30: A plane so deadly it will blow itself up and needs to be put in advantage to have a chance against the F-22.

[@mortenBP]

Never saw a missile do the "self destruct" before. I can only assume the missile reacted on the flaring.

[@SubSilent99]

"Roll it over the top"...pretty sure that was just a backflip!😂

[@frmphxaz84]

The random, untimely detonation of rooski ordinance is impressive attention to detail.

[@netwrkguy]

F22 pilot chose a line from Top Gun 1. 'I'm gonna hit the brakes and he's going to fly right by!!"

[@EdMcStinko]

11:47 The crazy part to me was how the F-22 had room to spare and had to perform an extra maneuver

[@thebite100]

Hey GS, great video as always! Absolutely love your videos! I had a suggestion for a video seeing as the Indian Navy has to make a choice between the Rafale and the Super Hornet for its soon to be commissioned aircraft carrier. Would be great to see the two jets fight it out in a dogfight or a BVR scenario (either is great lol)! Looking forward to your next video, cheers!

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

You ever seen birds of prey lock talons and spiral to the ground fight eachother? Thats what this was on a grander scale

[@Veni_Vidi_Vortice]

UFOs really do exist mother, I watched two of them having a fight last night.

[@YG-zv3me]

Men watching you fly that F 22 is like watching someone clubbing a baby seal, the results are pretty expected!

[@HellBatDC]

Russian ground crew "Why missile leave plane? If you want to blow up plane, plane is right there!"

[@guardiangaming3697]

Su-30 didn't want that smoke. Logically it's safer to splash yourself than get splashed by the F22. 🤣

[@SnaketheJake87]

Round two, after watching a tad more… Here’s your ground crew forgot to “remove before flight” for the KZbin algorithm.

[@oscarrodriguez9012]

your photography level has been increase a lot, it's so enjoyable to watch!

[@JhnPlays]

the far away shots you get with the camera are beautiful!

[@VengerDFW]

I see you jammed the wez, and Tupolev removed the safety features on his weapons... "You arrogant ass, you've killed us!"

[@jellymop]

I think the F-22 is still the current most capable dogfighter/air superiority fighter of today

[@jaek__]

Besides the Felon, yeah.

[@jellymop]

@@jaek__ is the Su-57 better?

[@berengerchristy6256]

2:38 my dude got wrecked by the tv missile glitch in battlefield 4 all the way over in dcs, rip

[@JimBob-vb8oz]

3:23 adding a touch of Russian quality realism

[@CobusvWyk63]

Thanks GS you're an absolute star, I learn more in each of your videos than in all the reading I've ever done. I've watched every one of your videos and wait for the next one with much anticipation. This one's the most spectacular so far!

[@bucky5869]

Masterfully done, sir. It says something if his only kill is starting on your six with an error. Nice going scaring him into a self-detonation.

[@profo4544]

Pretty sure the flares somehow confused the missile in the first self kill, the heat from the flare i think somehow set the missile off.

[@UnhingedCommenter]

7:37 F22 casually adding gasoline to the fire with that 2nd fox 2

[@fruitygranulizer540]

loved the extra fox 2 at the end just to seal the deal!

[@keithwolff2867]

Dude I loved the formation merge you did that is major respect for the other pilot. i remember that a lot of times in WW2 dogfights that would be a strong sign of respect for pilots who fight.

[@joshualai2827]

When you said "too close for missiles", I thought you were gonna follow up with "switching to guns"

[@beaclaster]

what was i waiting for!? math??? Growling Sidewinder uploaded! i should click the notif immediately!

[@lilasnowflake5632]

Fighting the raptor be like: Me flying solo and hearing from awacs there is a jet nearby: 🧐 Me getting ready to get a kill: 😎 Flies to the alt and heading of the aircraft to intercept: 🤑 Cant find him: 🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨 Suspect it's just a bug so find him visually via contrail: 😗 Find him: 🤩 But hes already facing me dispite me coming up on his supposed 6: 🤨🤨🤨🤨😐😐😐 Calm down and merge I most likely have a more maneuverable aircraft: 😎 *merge* *see silhouette* *it's a raptor:* 🤣 ... ..... *WAIT IT WAS A FUCKING RAPTOR*

[@Shrike200]

2:42 "Ooh, self burn, those are rare!"

[@bleakambition495]

I think the TVC Variant of the Raptor should be used more often, and of course, used in a rematch against the Felon!

[@sf-lv2wm]

I don't know what you're on about. First of all, the f22 does not have tvc modelled, nothing in dcs does. Second, the f22 is always on fcs override in every single gs dogfight.

[@junelnapigkit8050]

@@sf-lv2wm this is the tvc f22 model that only Growling sidewinder can use

[@tonyennis1787]

The first few seconds of the first round was audacious. If you had been complacent he'd have jammed his nose-cone into your cockpit.

[@adbell3364]

That is what I like about this channel, there is always something new to see!

[@Inductus]

Supposedly speed is life, and in the first round the Sukhoi had none of it before impact. Hence, life was taken.

[@jimmy_wang_]

7:35 When one missile just doesn't make you smile enough send the second 😂