Rheinmetall & Lockheed Martin Revealed New Global Mobile Artillery Rocket System (GMARS)

[@juhajuntunen7866]

Rheinmetall drop new system every week. Engineers are busy.

[@piait.yunususkywatcher2977]

Yes are very busy as russian engineers, they should be busy to ready against war criminals from Moscow.

[@gook5219]

Actually it is more Lockheed than Rheinmentall.

[@piait.yunususkywatcher2977]

@@juhajuntunen7866 yes no time they want to chase away Russian terrors from Ukraine.

[@diedampfbrasse98]

lets not pretend that it takes much engineering to put an already developed launcher onto an already developed truck, same goes for a lot of "new" systems which simply marry existing turrets with existing platforms in new combinations .. like the AGM on Piranha etc. ... it was the whole point of having modular platforms to get such growing product variety. Not saying that there are no new developments or that there wouldnt be an uptake, but most of what is presented on the defence exhibitions lately is just existing stuff put together in different platform combinations, with minimal engineering required to make the adaptation.

[@AftonAdams]

Not a Rheinmetall system… it is still a Lockheed Martin system that is American made… Rheinmetall only provides the truck…

[@mbgangstanative]

A cost effective wheeled version of the M270 MLRS. Lighter weight means it’s easier on roads, easier to move in theater, & lower fuel consumption. As a bonus you still get the full dozen rockets as intended & not the 1/2 dozen the HIMARS gives. HIMARS was designed to supplement the M270 in expeditionary/rapid reactions units with it being air transportable on more airframes & taking up less space in an Amphibious Assault Ship.

[@kevinkelly6189]

The M270 fully combat loaded is under 27 tons, so this is much heavier, approaching the 50 ton weight of a MBT. It's wheeled foundation probably provides a much higher transport speed though.

[@ronaldotrumph8960]

Is's better protected than M270 and can shoot more ammo (updated M270 will probably also do most of that). The mobility is probably better in most cases. Bud weight and width will limited its air mobility. But besides US, most countries don't care much here.

[@chunkmen]

@@kevinkelly6189 The m270 fully loaded with 12 rockets is just shy of 58k pounds. The Himars at max combat weight is just shy of 58k pounds.

[@andreww1225]

Just a bigger himars, but nice to have another option for western countries. Himars has a long waiting list.

[@mcblaze1968]

HIMARS is really something. AFU has been using them like a champ. I think only one has been damaged out of the ~40 or so the US has sent over two years. And the orcs really want to kill these things.

[@ronaldotrumph8960]

Its better protected and has more fire power than Himars but also MLRS. The main disadvantageous I see on the weight, which will be bad on air mobility.

[@quakethedoombringer]

@@ronaldotrumph8960I don't think the GMARS will be air-transportable like the HIMARS considering it will mostly be used on continental Europe instead of the US or Sahel Africa

[@sweMike]

This will be an interesting system for Sweden. We have ordered 48 Archers using that truck and I know the army has said they want a system like Himars. With the options to also launch other types of rockets this system is very interesting

[@alanmcmillan6969]

Try it in Ukraine!

[@schepvogelk5971]

Or not? Save it up for the real enemy of the free world, the ccp.

[@jay-rmahinay8847]

China: Ughhhh! Here we go again Lets make our own too Lets just copy a little details

[@dantruong2582]

You forgot that it will magically make the rockets fly +50km more, it can hover over obstacles, and sing the national anthem. All for less then the cost of sheet metal.

[@chill_will9816]

The F22 has been public since the 90's. Russia tried to rip off its geometry for the Su57, it didn't work... there far more devils in the details than ppl think, namely materials i.e radar absorbent material and such

[@8888shooter]

😂👏👏🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍​@@dantruong2582

[@TheNefastor]

@@dantruong2582 such is the power of pseudo-communism !!! 😀

[@Nils.Minimalist]

If it works like other cheap Chinese stuff, well ... 😂

[@jamesreisenauer1778]

So basically it’s a MARS II on wheels with more modern ammunition.

[@DavidWilsonsays]

Does it come with a premium sound system, apple air play, and extra cup holders? You know the things that really sell a vehicle.

[@jamesreisenauer1778]

Yes, Cup holders will be available.

[@ελευθερία-ε2ο]

Only on g wagon, not g mars

[@jamesreisenauer1778]

​@@ελευθερία-ε2ο Are you sure? I thought the Rheinmetall HMX 8x8 was equipped with cup holders.

[@RobinSmith20]

Full leather interior with heated seats and full function steering wheel is NATO standard or do you think they are a bunch of savages or something ?

[@ajosralastname7823]

Double himars, nice

It rather is a german MARS II on a Truck chassis, the former of wich existed before himars

[@apuuvah]

K239 Chunmoo has been around a while. Same system. Fires both South-Korean and NATO missiles.

[@keso_de_bola1750]

I think this has more to do with the manufacturing in volume issue. If Hyundai Defense alone is manufacturing the K239 Chunmoo for NATO and its allies need for Artillery rocket systems, they may not be able to handle the demand. Plus, if shit hits the fan and either South Korea disconnects from the West (highly unlikely at this point) or South Korea goes to war and had its factories compromised (more possible outcome), there would be no ability to manufacture or in an extent, maintain the systems. Rheinmetall here is basically saying "Right, I'll handle majority of Europe's needs using European platforms and a German base vehicle so we'd have it a bit easier on logistics and maintanance". Fair to note that despite the similarities of the Chunmoo and the GMARS, the Chunmoo uses a South Korean Hyundai truck as a platform while the GMARS uses a German MAN truck as a platform, while the M270 uses an M113 platform with a Cummins V8 and HIMARS uses an American military truck with a Caterpillar engine. That small aspect like the truck alone gives you an idea on the maintenance and logistics, what more about the systems involved.

[@Hamzat22]

@@keso_de_bola1750 wait until you see the Homar-K ;)

[@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531]

@@keso_de_bola1750 Another such future problem could be shipping difficulties in interesting times.

[@quakethedoombringer]

@@keso_de_bola1750I fee like this is what people forget. Most NATO countries don't use that specific model of Hyundai for military purpose at all. The GMARS will be mounted on a chassis that is already used by Germany, Sweden, etc. Also if the Korean Peninsula goes hot, I seriously doubt South Korea will be willingly to continue shipping the valuable missiles to Europe

[@aspopulvera9130]

the himars looks small compared to this one

[@nihil-baxter]

Wladimir mad!

[@2l84t]

Always was.

[@MM-ex5fd]

Shit in pants already? The real matter is that’s gonna be very expensive and produce in small number.

[@wendyharbon7290]

Question; will the British Government and MoD, buy it for the Royal Artillery in place of buying new M270 Mk.2 tracked MLRS vehicles?

[@Hurricane1668]

This is how Ukraine delivered a dozen ATACMS to Crimea. 2 ATACMS per platform

[@rickjames18]

That was the HIMARS not GMARS.

[@deltaboy2011]

HIMARS can only fire 1 missile per pod. They have the bigger older track version that can fire two.

[@rickjames18]

@@deltaboy2011 True, but the new PRSM can fire 2 at twice the range.

[@williamzk9083]

Also the tracked M270 and MARS which have two pods and the much greater mobility of a tracked vehicle.

[@michaelr4858]

This thing is huge. 40 tons? It’s great for Europe, but it’s too big for the US. Would be too hard to transport to the numerous places in the world that there are American forces. Nice with double pods though.

[@bhogan843]

Michaelr4858, we could just buy some for Homeland defense. Just to be safe. lol

[@hannes5610]

@@bhogan843it’s not cost effective to run a additional system

[@AftonAdams]

You are so ignorant… the USA already has the highly mobilized HIMARS… this thing is only developed by Lockheed Martin for the Germans… the sycophantic Rheinmetall truck is only there because of the contract…

[@mastermariner490]

I am sure you can fit it on a smaller chassis

[@jorgemiller8994]

are there any infos about nations showing interest in buying the system?

[@moravianlion3108]

Asking "for a friend"? Haha

[@frankdelahue9761]

Is it protected against anti tank mines?

[@santaclaus0815]

Doubling the amount of ammunition seems sensible at first glance, but this makes the vehicle larger and therefore easier to detect (both visually and by radar). If the device is destroyed, all the ammunition is also destroyed. It would make more sense to use a smaller vehicle with less ammunition on board and have an ammunition truck ride along. In addition, the launch platform does not have to travel long distances to replenish ammunition because the ammunition transporter does that. Both vehicles are small and therefore easier to hide. In addition, the same amount of ammunition would have allowed more of these systems to be distributed over the land area. This decentralization makes it more difficult to combat this rocket artillery.

[@thorH.]

But it also means that if you want a strike with more than 6 rockets you only need half the trucks. For European armies, who do not require air transport the larger version makes sense.

[@santaclaus0815]

@@thorH. I don't see this as a replacement but rather as a supplement. With a small vehicle you are more agile, more flexible, you can hide more easily and reach more places.

[@thorH.]

@@santaclaus0815 maintaining different systems is less efficient and a higher strain on suppy chains. While it is larger, not by that much, and the truck is also stronger. There is not a significant loss in mobility, maybe a little more when it comes to handling muddy terrain, but HIMARS cant do that well either.

[@santaclaus0815]

@@thorH. Then why do we have different kinds of vehicles, planes...?

[@thorH.]

@@santaclaus0815 Because some requirements are so vastly different that the benefit outweight that cost. In this case the two systems in questions are so similar that they do not.

[@rogerc6533]

Himars, Gmars, is Fmars next?

[@benoitnadeau5845]

Looks large, high and heavy, will it board A400? Or they plan using it at home?

[@HerrKarliseppel]

The battleweight is

[@ru5h7]

Gmars in Combination with the new Prism is a Gamechanger Artillery Rocket System

[@johnpennington7107]

As long as the missiles have the range speed and can maneuver in flight it will be a game changer.

[@johnnytwotimez]

What will a little drone do to it?

[@gansior4744]

Depends on the ECM suite. If it has jammers, drone wont come. Close or it wont explode

[@Vengeance4308]

If little drones have 50km range sure if not then gl

[@kamilfilipowicz]

It will either not reach out or won't find it.

[@neil27pearson]

Nice to see Europe wont rely on the USA for weaponry in the future 🎉

[@AftonAdams]

It is still American-made you i@iot… it’s only assembled in Germany and Rheinmetall only provides the truck portion…

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Lockheed Martin is American bro. This system is 50% American.

[@AftonAdams]

@@neil27pearson- This System is American you pathetic sycophant, Rheinmetall only provides the truck 😂😂😂

[@HedgehogZone]

And like everything else amerikan, at least 50% german too!

[@brianv1988]

Beautiful double the Pod of rockets double the fun

[@DavidOlver]

i hope Australia looks at it

[@dmitryflanker5423]

This is good for a compact country like Ukraine and European countries. Moves quickly on roads. There are no roads in Russia, so it is not suitable for war in Russia.

[@Solid_Snake99]

Excellent weapon to expand european borders and influence.

[@schepvogelk5971]

Expand European borders? Sarcastic or translation mistake?

[@Solid_Snake99]

@@schepvogelk5971 not sarcastic. We understand we need to expand INSIDE russia. Attack is the best defence.

[@gansior4744]

​@@Solid_Snake99 we don't. Europe has nothing to gain from invading and capturing russian territory

[@rogerc6533]

Yeahhhh that didnt work out so well when they got too close to Russia did it?

[@Solid_Snake99]

@@rogerc6533 it did wonders. Now we are expanding even more NATO without reaction from russia.

[@boansy1]

Double, single and triple launce variance sold from (MGS)

[@dylanst3802]

Sick Collab!!!!!

[@piait.yunususkywatcher2977]

Perfect weapon really

[@J0Sant0s]

Looking good.

[@Alex4n3r]

So, is it called "global", because it can fire all previous MLRS missiles or because it can be loaded on train?

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

1st

[@Volesky1775]

And whats the part of Rheinmetall here? Just the truck? The Truck depend on the User.

[@dschanriihl9043]

Lockheed: "Hey guys, government wants HiMARS x M270" Hanwha: "No prob, we have a production line" Rheinmetal: "We have a 8x8 used by 12 NATO and 5/7 QUAD+ members. We have a deal, if you don't say the N word."

[@glintongordon6811]

Do they do fps drone test these days?

[@Micha-qv5uf]

For such a system that is irrelevant. Rocket Artillery engages targets at a minimum 30km distance but usually more than 50 and up to 300km. No fpv drone can fly that far. Loitering Munitions might be a problem but you can just send a light air defence system with it.

[@glintongordon6811]

@@Micha-qv5uf fps drones are going way further than 30km all lot are going across the borders into Russia, a lot of these drones are carrying just regular shells that drop and most tech don't detect those as weapons

[@Micha-qv5uf]

@@glintongordon6811 Apperently you don't know what "fpv" means and you also don't understand the difference between the drones that enter Russia and what they do and how they work in comparison to the drones that are being used at the frontlines. You're just reading headlines and make superficial conclusions from it. What you say is complete nonsense and just exposes your lack of knowledge.

[@glintongordon6811]

@@Micha-qv5uf I know what it means and my statement still stands, not all the drones going into Russia are satellite guided UK Is using data connectivity to extend the ranges. one of the main reason they were angry with Elon was because they were using his platform and he stopped them

[@Vengeance4308]

@@glintongordon6811dude fpv drones have 10km range lmao go back to school

[@tolitsdterrible4785]

If I'm the designer, I would make it to look like any other regular NATO transport truck.

[@sonyphotoguy6601]

convinced. i order 5.

[@zenki4666]

Wow creative!

[@sjsomething4936]

Given the extreme dangers posed by drones on the battlefield these days, I wonder if there’s any feasibility to including the Rheinmatall cannon on this, to reduce the likelihood of a drone taking the system and operators out.

[@williamzk9083]

There is also the Australian Slinger system. It uses a 30mm chain gun with air burst rounds backed by a 7.62 NATO. Has micro-drone finding radar and laser. It's very compact.

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

Drones aren't capable of providing long range artillery fire.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

​@@bigvaxmeanie925They are but not precise enough to hit a moving target of that size.

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Bro there is no fpv drone that could reach this thing. Not even close.

[@WannabeShady90]

Maybe it comes with the Mission Master FLAK.

[@violakrone8429]

Awesome lets buy it 🙂👍

[@hoomanjafarian1137]

Hi this is very good but in short range euro needs inter continental ballestic missles and crose missles❤

[@PedroLopez-bj6hq]

Build two types big and bigger

[@mrcharles9257]

where can i buy this my neighbour is stealing my parking slot again

[@RussTillling]

Pronounced “RINEMETAL”! Not “rainmetal”!

[@Sandhoeflyerhome]

It is not "Rain Metal" Basic stuff

[@angelglodo]

Awesome

[@romanivanovich1301]

In the war in Ukraine, these installations are a priority for the Russian occupying forces. It is good when there are also dummies of these systems.

[@olegz710]

GPS guidance can be jammed. Make it artificial intelligence

[@paulcoverdale8312]

If they use a 10x 10 then you could have twocassettes ready 👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧to go

[@JOESRQFLUSA]

Another world, sorry, global weapon… JUST WHAT WE NEED 😢😢😢😢

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Correct. It is exactly what we need.

[@damirmasic7432]

Skupa je vojska i rat.

[@romanivanovich1301]

Respect

[@joselopez-t6h]

Use medals in G-mars

[@JimmyJamesJ]

Rain metal? Yeah, NO.

[@frankdelahue9761]

Lol

[@Slavic_lynX]

nice food for drones :D

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Again nonsense. These systems don't operate anywhere near the front line.

[@xandervk2371]

Your mom.

[@Greatshadowfighter]

Send it to Ukraine immediately!

[@frankdelahue9761]

Not so fast.

[@apokalipsx25]

First country to receive GMARS is already well known - Ukraine No chance for anybody else 😂

[@ballinlikebill8334]

cant wait to buy multiple

[@JosephAllen-u2e]

Hernandez David Williams Brian Miller Daniel

[@frankdelahue9761]

HIMARS is becoming obsolete.

[@mnblkjh6757]

🇩🇪🇺🇸👍🙂

[@atanasvasilev3228]

Is this cope caged? 😂 It seems it has a subtle cope cage.

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

It doesn’t

[@atanasvasilev3228]

@@Theworld-ci7zg Intricate cope cage systems are hot right now. 😂

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

@@atanasvasilev3228 they’re indeed

[@atanasvasilev3228]

@@Theworld-ci7zgAs we can see in the Gmars

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

@@atanasvasilev3228 it doesn’t have one as already mentioned but it seems like you aren’t paying enough attention to the video..

[@hafangneige322]

everyone is sick with directed military commercials in staged environment! It they want to sell it they need a good AD campaign, the best way to advertise your equipment today is to send it to Ukraine, if it shows effectiveness - success on the market is guaranteed!!

[@patrick-po2lx]

The entire free world wants to serve breakfasts 🍳🥓🧇 of Arkansas tungsten to their enemies, and that is good news.

[@damirmasic2666]

Postoje 1000km domet rakete takoder za to sam pročitao negdje.

[@egodrive10]

German made buy them eyes closed

[@KarelBeelaertsvanBlokland]

Finally! It took NATO way too long to copy the Russian Stalin-Multiple rocket systems or GRADS which were powerful but lacked precision strikes. HiMars proved to be precision missiles. GMARS enables the launch of HiMars missiles and quickly disappears from the launch-spot to escape counter attacks..

[@Юрий-и2ж2в]

"Град" назван в честь природного явления, которое представляет из себя земерзшие капли дождя, которые портят окраску вашего автомобиля! Оставьте в покое Сталина! Ему уже очень много лет! 😁

[@sim999]

Send to Ukraine

[@lightsector1523]

Спасибі огромне концерну Рейнметал,за ту чудову техніку,яку вони разом з урядом Неметчини, передали України.

[@alantaylor8281]

Why is it always bigger is better? This is just a much easier target for drones to take out, some of these firing from rear areas with long range ATACM is ok. But also closer to the FEBA you need smaller easier to hide vehicles, maybe a flatbed pickup that fires 2 of the smaller rockets but is disguised with a frame and a tarpaulin. Take out the one of the large expensive MAN 8x8 with 12 rockets and you have lost a lot of firepower, lose one of the smaller size of which you have many is not such a problem.

[@Squee7e]

You can launch more missiles with fewer launch computers which are very expensive. Sure the missiles are expensive as well but the electronics of these vehicles aren't exactly cheap and I'd say that they make up at least for half the cost of such a platform.

[@davidjoly9816]

My tax dollars at work.

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

Not yet

[@rajeshreddy2805]

Looks like a dump truck.

[@bigvaxmeanie925]

It drops a big load 😏

[@elultimobuho]

🇪🇸👌👌👌👍👌 ✌️🎗️

[@marcelpavlik7976]

geymars

[@Theworld-ci7zg]

Cope harder🤣

[@frankdelahue9761]

Meticulously designed system.

[@davidellis4084]

Sorry. Just not impressed.

[@ogden_toto]

Give it to ukraine for field testing

[@frankdelahue9761]

There is a danger of Russia capturing this system to reverse engineer it.

[@williamzk9083]

It lacks the mobility of HIMARS

[@ducoh2093]

but it is still more mobile than M270, while having the same number of pods as the M270.

[@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531]

@@ducoh2093 As long as this and the M270 are compatible with the new PRISM rockets as well as ATACMS, it's all good.

[@ducoh2093]

@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 completely true. I hope Ukraine gets to use this one truck too, so we can see what works best: high mobility, medium mobility, tracked. Also I hope Ukraine gets to use a few Prism rockets too to see how well they work. If the S400 barely can stop the ATACMS, its time to test the only S500 the Russians have at the Kerch Bridge with the PRISM

[@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531]

@@ducoh2093 I'm all for slipping them a few "extra" class rockets in the next shipment. Also hoping our defense consultants are busy in the field over there making lists of design improvements suggested from battlefield use of these systems.

[@ducoh2093]

@@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 the latter is happening 100%. Even in the us civil war the French and British were in America to learn about new weapons. can't imagine with all the communication equipment of today, there are no American/european eyes on the technology used in Ukraine. Nevertheless, prism is not going to happen. Biden only released the atacms after the prism were delivered. They are building up their stock only now.

[@RealityCheck6969]

HIMARS clone :)) and you don't even have to go to China.

[@MyPonyLooksKindaWeird]

its litterally made in cooperation between lokheed martin and rheinmetall. It's not a clone if the original manufacturer is part of the project.

[@Squee7e]

This is not a HIMARS clone because it can carry twice the payload. Also the bare truck itself is more capable so it will make up for the additional weight. This is basically a M270 upgrade

[@Micha-qv5uf]

Yea no shit sherlock. It's a pod on a truck. There's not so much room for innovation. Is the Abrams a copy of the Leopard just because it uses the same canon?

[@tajooborneo5732]

🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅💪💪