Guess what? I'm STILL not lying. (Rant alert)

[@annalaviour]

I think we should have a sing-off between Fil and Ken to see who is legit and who is not!

[@rudolphschmitler725]

Hey Ken, how many fake accounts do you have going rn posting the exact same thing?

[@wingsofpegasus]

I've never claimed to be a vocal coach, I don't have a vocal course for people to buy. Although I do sing, I've never mimed live or used pitch correction or auto-tune. Lastly, music is not a competition, if it were then there would be a music 'Champion of the World'. I think you're missing the whole point of the artform, integrity and objectivity. I've tried to explain it in the video, if you still don't understand I can't help you.

[@Indigenousnanji.1999]

Fake account by Ken or one of his disciples😀

[@bobbysiskvocals]

Are you guys off your meds? Did you bump your head this morning? What part of this do you not understand? Fil has nothing to do with this, and has nothing to prove! on the other hand, if Ken wants to save his career will step up and show everyone that he is who he says he is. I will give him the opportunity to do that.

[@Indigenousnanji.1999]

@@bobbysiskvocals sorry I'll stop.

[@raygunsforronnie847]

I have 45 years in live audio, 2/3 of that working with "artists you've heard of". I'm still working and I signed NDAs so I won't mention names, but these self-annointed golden ears comments Fil featured in this video have no f'in clue about how many of their favorite artists, bands, and performers make use of playback in performances. One band, a quartet, had 96 inputs - half from live sources on the stage and the other 48 were from ProTools or Ableton. The band got the live inputs to their IEMs and the audience heard 98% tracks. Many rappers are lip-syncing, too. The mics are hot so the hype and shoutouts are real, but most of the actual "song" is either the studio vocal or an edit of the studio vocal with some live components; soloing up the live mics in headphones, I can hear the performers moving, breathing, and maybe rapping along at a *very* low level until a shout out comes along. A popular male country singer has a bad alcohol habit and can't utter a coherent sentence by the time he's on stage but his "sung" vocals are flawless; is it magic or an illusion? Another singer who has been on one of the contest TV shows lip syncs the last half (more or less) of his live show for the same reason - he's getting intoxicated on stage and develops both pitch and timing problems. There are vocal tuning plug ins for digital mixing consoles that will work fast enough to be used live, and one of the most popular English-speaking performers has it applied to all non-spoken parts of the vocal performance, along with a dynamics and EQ processing chain that would have been low/mid-five figure$ back when everything was separate analog boxes. Ultimately I work for the artist or someone they have hired for technical and artistic supervision. With some I get lots of artistic direction and discretion, with others there is lots of direction and little room to make changes of any sort (kind of like in theatre) after the tour starts. Some performers seem comforted by the technologies, some need the technologies to make them acceptable, live, others eschew most of it. My personal choice to start out organically and hear what the band or artist is actually doing, maybe apply a little reverb to put some air around it, and hear where their performance of that song, that day, takes us. I like the old ways of letting the art and magic happen on stage, and that my primary job is to share those things to everyone who showed up, artist-willing.

[@ChrisM541]

Well said! Miming anywhere, especially at a 'live' concert is about as low as it gets for any Art, and yes, it is widespread today...very, very widespread. Additionally, the near 100% abuse of tuning software (primarily Melodyne) has, today, destroyed 'pop' music as an Art form, and it's extreme abuse is widespread in many other genres. We all remember, over 20 years ago, when Melodyne came out and alarm bels were immediately raised when we saw it so damn easily move data up/down in pitch, left/right to manipulate phrasing, increase/reduce vibrato, lengthen/shorten phrases, etc etc. Little wonder we are where we are today. Kids have, for over 20 years, been completely indoctrinated into accepting computer-perfected, dehumanized audio excrement. Such a damn shame, and a truly damning indictment on the music industry and government music/culture bodies that they continue to bury their heads in the sand.

[@ji.ol.1490]

The "Is it live, or is it Memorex?" campaign really exemplifies what you've said. Who would have believed back then that it was foreshadowing the future of musical entertainment?

[@scottwheeler2494]

​@@ChrisM541I remember working local crew for a medium sized band in the early 80s. I was helping the sound engineer and was looking over his effects rack. I worked as Mixer/sound guy and grunt labor for a local rock band. Broke as hell we were lucky to have PA at all. Eager to learn I asked him to explain his vocal chain. I recognized reverb, delay and compression but was stumped by a Eventide Harmonizer. So he explained it some and demonstrated some. Color me stunned. My dumb redneck ass was being schooled. While well out of our price range, I really saw the endless possibilities. Now this effect is totally accepted, made cheap as a plug in for the world to use. Is it dishonest? I can't answer that, especially when applied to vocals. I was also challenged ethically when working a Hall and Oats show in the mid 80s. Under the stage were several keyboards where a guy was steady busy swapping 8 inch floppy disks between songs. Essentially he was playing the songs not the people on stage. Being the first time I saw this I lost all respect for the band. Sadly it only got worse over the years. Some like the Edge were totally upfront about their use of technology. But it was still him playing his instrument. Loved the Joshua Tree and Unforgettable Fire shows I was lucky enough to work. Then came Autotune and similar devices like the Melodyne. Cher as an effect. No problem. But to hide the fact you can't hit pitch with a shotgun? Absurdly dishonest. It's gotten to the point you can't trust a vocal. Unless it's off pitch, I guess. But I would always take the honest vocal even with imperfections over the corrected. Sure if she is up there dancing her ass off I expect it to be lip synced. No human could do it. It's a performance. But don't lie to me standing in front of a mic. So I guess I will keep watching bar bands playing the blues. At least I know it's a human

[@bassadelica]

Great points. Autotune Live STILL wouldn’t be sync’d with past performances or the album though, it’s the straight up lip sync that bothers us. Post Malone for example sings through Autotune live but at least it’s LIVE!

[@npg68]

The older I get, the more I appreciate music from the 60s and 70s.

[@RonniePeterson]

Everything you have presented here and before is just painfully obvious to anyone who is not tone deaf. You are a beaming light in all this darkness. Fil you are a LEGEND!

[@AndrewHead-n2k]

Even if you are sonically challenged (I wear hearing aids) the visual data does not lie.

[@cupidok2768]

Oh my God he's exposing all the horrible people that is trying to scam people

[@johnvanstone5336]

I second that emotion 🎉

[@loriematthews6418]

Exactly. 👌🏼💯

[@1msbucket]

For sure

[@corilia9529]

Fil DON'T EVER STOP BEING A TRUTH CRUSADER!❤

[@YtuserSumone-rl6sw]

Fil is the Sherlock Holmes of audio authenticity 😁

[@geoffhipwell2198]

No worries Fil, you have more followers than detractors. Also KT has been caught doing some 'strange' things with his website, like deleting all the bad comments and then replacing them with favourable comments WRITTEN BY HIMSELF!! All amongst a heap of other dishonest behaviour. So just keep fighting the good fight Fil, we're behind you Mate.

[@tuRbo-_-crOw]

The haters are classic deniers

[@forrestunderwood3174]

People need to know this.

[@prongATO]

Ditto!

[@mattlance5208]

you caught everyone who was lying and now they are trying to silence you. continue to make videos and bring the truth of the facts to light.

[@nsould1]

I'm not a professional musician or singer. I am "the audience" and I don't appreciate being deceived for any reason by anyone... especially those taking my money. You're an honest person in a deceptive industry, Fil. Much needed if you ask me. Your videos are very appreciated.

[@dominikaksiazek7177]

You wrote something I could absolutely say myself. Thanks to Fil's videos I know when NOT to go to a concert. The Eagles are an example, unfortunately. I was born too late to see them as a great band and won't pay outrageous ticket prices for a lip syncing circus show. Also, it's good my money won't go to Don Henley's bank account.

[@BrunoNeureiter]

Music isn't supposed to be a magic show or a math competition where everything is supposed to be perfect, precise and true. Music is supposed to move your emotions, that's it. If you put yourself in the position to check if something is true, false, a sequence, a sample, you'll never enjoy anything anymore. And that's sad

[@nsould1]

In a way, I feel sorry for people who do this. They are locked into believing that this is all they are - a singer in a band, unable to pivot and pursue other avenues in life. It's self made trap.

[@hugespinner4890]

all i can think is imagine paying hundreds of dollars/pounds/Euros etc to watch a live performance and it's lip synced. you could have brought a music DVD stayed home and watched it on a big screen TV with Dolby Digital surround sound and brought stuff off their webpage and avoided having punters scream for the 1st 20 seconds of every song and have plenty of money for food n drinks. I've worked in corporate audio visual and experienced "stars" lip syncing at sporting events because it's just easier to set up from a technical standpoint BUT no one paid to hear them sing. they paid to watch a sporting event

[@Tikktator]

there are bad actors everywhere, the industry is surely slanted in favor of companies but in no way is it 'deceptive' in nature, that's Ken's wrinkle.

[@LOL-Can]

I have said this before. If The Julliard School in NYC asked you to be a guest lecturer that is credence enough for anyone to accept that you know exactly what you are talking about. Thank you for teaching us and for your honesty and integrity.

[@stevetournay6103]

They did? Cool...

[@Laura-rp2ki]

Wow! Thats amazing. I didn’t know that. Go Fil!

[@davidwalker5665]

It's refreshing to hear someone, who believes FACTS override opinion, state his case. Social media has made facts irrelevant.

[@oldermusiclover]

Dont bother me with facts my mind is made up this old expression is so true

[@oneignite9803]

it would be way nicer if you were just talking bs - but unfortunately you nailed it

[@1msbucket]

Yep, the facts are what we say they are. Like the wicked wich from oz said," what world, what a world"

[@MrGamman3yt]

Even judges are like "nah, it goes against the narritive".

[@LegendLength]

you're on social media

[@detroitpolak9904]

Ken Tamperin’ (with his vocals).

[@powerface71]

LEGENDARY!

[@madsquishy3410]

As someone who went to a lot of live shows back in the 90s I can tell you that I don't care how good a singer or band is, they never ever sound the same as their recordings do. And they never EVER sound the same live twice! Like you say, it's literally impossible! Everything effects your singing voice: tiredness, sickness, excitedness, your mood that day, what you ate, how hydrated you are, even crowd reaction will change things in the way the singer sounds. And dude, anyone who watches you can tell that you are such a sweet genuine person and not ever trying to hurt anyone. You have the kindest smile and voice and I know you're just trying to be honest in this situation and talk about something you're passionate about. Don't take strangers on the internet to heart bro. You know you're telling the truth so screw them lol.

[@SuperStrik9]

Totally agree. I can only speak for myself but I'd rather hear a live vocal warts and all over a vocal using autotune live or even worse trying to pass off lip synching as actual live vocals.

[@BrianHunsakerMusic]

Steve Perry, and Jimi Jamison did, for awhile. But you probably didn't see them back in the early 80's. You can find clips on KZbin of live performances. Also, Geoff Tate did for awhile.

[@bk4062]

I agree, to a point. Yes, some musicians sound exactly the same live or recording. Check out Pil's analysis of George Michael, in fact, there are few! 😎🎤😘🎶🎶🎶Perfection!

[@JesperLund]

​@@BrianHunsakerMusic Ronnie James Dio.

[@bogrot69]

@@bk4062 Milli Vanilli 🤣

[@mjones6983]

I was a full-time musician for 30 years; the people who think they are experts, but actually don’t know squat never cease to amaze me. Keep up the stellar work Fil you’re awesome!!

[@chrlz904]

Just be wary of also thinking you or Fil are in fact experts and that the claims either way are beyond examination. This isn't my area of expertise, but I am concerned at Fil's use of words like 'irrefutable'. Real science always allows for challenges.. in a couple of these 'exact' matches, is it my imagination that I see slight mismatches..? and the analog to digital induced pitch change .. ?? was it really 'irrefutably' the only possible explanation? Some of these claims are not fully objective - if they were we'd see some numbers in regard to a proper frequency analysis.. Has this type of analysis been done in a scientifically rigorous environment? If not, why not..? Feel free to cite one.

[@tubester4567]

@@chrlz904 Its interesting KT deleted the video and has not made a video response. If there was a simple explanation you would expect him to make a video about it.,

[@jefftaylor8709]

@@chrlz904 I need to know what you think Fils' software is analyzing pls

[@dio7184]

And you probably think Trump won in 2020 ​@chrlz904

[@guitarplayer5932]

@@chrlz904if you have ever done any recording or know what a wave file is youll know that if theyre even remotely close its the same signal, the differences you think you see are nothing, its the same

[@lucysnowe31]

Don't forget that people are crazy these days, Fil. (Seriously) You always bring the receipts and present ample proof of what you're asserting. Rock on. I think you're great!

[@ceb1970]

People have always been crazy, but now any crazy person can get an audience online and spread their insanity.

[@CorvusCorone68]

@@ceb1970 hear hear; any piece of technology is a tool, tools are force multipliers, and if misused or abused... they can do damage; toasters are tools, don't stick a fork in your toaster; cars are tools, don't drink and drive; computers with online access are tools, don't engage in cyberbullying common sense is being bred out of humanity in favor of intelligence and it's not good for anyone involved

[@oldermusiclover]

@@CorvusCorone68 amen and agree

[@GeorgeGanesh]

This!! Fil is way more polite about all this than I would ever be, and he is always focused on the facts. Don't let the trolls get you down Fil! You are doing amazing work.

[@mikeydflyingtoaster]

@@ceb1970 Not quite, but you're close. It's not that any crazy person can get an audience, but that any person can go online and find lots of other crazy people with the same crazy opinions

[@michaeldefalco1568]

Your honesty and integrity are much more important than the fandom!

[@RobWool]

Mark Twain said that it's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

[@sudelaine8653]

He was a very wise man and an excellent observer of human nature.

[@otallono]

people who take meds their doctor gave them, you can't convince them they've been fooled. This is most people.

[@shankrl1]

Damn, what a quote

[@DizzLexic]

Indeed!! For many, their ego simply wont allow it.

[@wuguay5526]

@@otallono you advocate for pts not to take their cancer meds? You do you. Let others have a chance to live.

[@kathrynrogers4079]

Your ability to address negative comments - especially the insulting comments - with such straight forward data is admirable. Your calm rebuttals make the strongest argument for the integrity of your analysis. Thanks Fil.

[@nomoresaul]

It’s quite a show of good character and obviously a long time of doing this sort of thing, too. If I were doing this and needed (or felt the need) to respond to some of the hate comments, even with the data being undeniable there’s no way I’d be as calm and focused. In fact I don’t think it really says anything about the truth of the data. The data speaks for itself quite strikingly and still would even if Fil would’ve thrown a fit or something.

[@vls3771]

True .and Where is Tamplin?? Hes a pro utuber it's easy to do a reaction to analysis video for him to clear his name then Why is he hiding ?? Where is he?? .

[@tangogrrl]

I love how he never gets personal back. That is a skill in itself.

[@MexicoDigDoctor]

Rant on, Fil. These things need to be said by someone knowledgeable like you! 🤗🇲🇽

[@chriskiefer7493]

People resort to name calling when they have no real argument or when they can't come up with a rebuttal.

[@motelghost477]

Dude, you proved your argument scientifically. There can be no dispute.

[@stoneneils]

He has no idea what he's talking about!! He's not even a singer!!

[@colinmurphy3478]

@@stoneneils Actually he does. You simply can't replicate the micro timing like that if they are two different takes.

[@fallingsky1984]

There's always disputes 😢

[@MatthewC137]

@@stoneneils He IS a singer. Truth hurts.

[@JacoWium]

@@stoneneils Yet the data is very clear and conclusive. And yes, he is a musician and singer. Anyways, you're always welcome to present the data you gathered that will verify your statement (if you have done such research).

[@highnotesarecool]

I wouldn’t worry about it. The hate comments are probably from Ken himself on one of his many fake accounts. I proved this on my latest vid 🔥 keep spreading actual truth, Fil

[@wingsofpegasus]

It's a shame they don't understand, but now with the 4K data added hopefully they'll see and appreciate all 3 pre-recorded vocals are from 1990.

[@highnotesarecool]

@@wingsofpegasusYup. Dude didn’t even bother to create a new lipsyncing track. Just lazy. Or assumes everyone is stupid. I’m leaning towards the second after his responses. Just awful.

[@GeorgeGanesh]

​@M2Singing I think you're 100% correct. It is honestly quite predatory, Ken is taking advantage of people who are too new to singing to recognize his fakery and manipulation. Then he actively censors other creators to keep his audience ignorant. Very cult-ish vibes.

[@bogrot69]

That's what I thought 😂

[@loriematthews6418]

@@wingsofpegasus 🙋🏻💕

[@steveserdikoff9347]

Nearly all of the commenters you referenced, in addition to being wrong on the facts, are also resorting to fallacious arguments. "Who are you to criticize?" Ad hominem attack/Courtier's reply. "I'm a famous singer and producer and I know!" Argument from authority. "Kent would never lipsync, he doesn't do that!" Circular reasoning/proof by assertion/moralistic reasoning. "Why do you attack Kent -- you're being mean!" Appeal to emotion/appeal to motivation. "Everyone knows Kent doesn't lipsync." Appeal to tradition/circular reasoning. "I am unsubscribing because of this!" Poisoning the well. So these negative comments were both unfactual and illogical. Keep going Fil! Your analysis is much appreciated!

[@banksofchaos93]

Former teacher of rhetoric and argumentation approves this message.

[@stevetournay6103]

Fil will pick up more subs than he loses...

[@TheSimCaptain]

Yep, appeal to authority is only acceptable when the authority gives evidence of being an acceptable authority.

[@paulboulton5003]

Kent caught with his trousers down!!!!

[@michaelwills1926]

Nicely summed up. My favorite is “they make more money than you” whatever category that falls under

[@Joelster-og4pf]

Apparently, honesty is a crime to some people, which is quite saddening. Fil, keep doing what you’re doing, man. This is one of the reasons why I subscribed to your channel in the first place. Cheers 🤘🏼

[@jeffersoncosgrove1910]

Milli Vanilli's agent and producer claimed others were lying and jealous about them as well. But the truth came out in the end.

[@HumbleTrader001]

And Bernie Madoff claimed he was a legit fund manager as well. Same with Sam Bankman Fried.

[@johnbriggs3916]

Well, it was the producer doing the singing 😉

[@rsdemarco]

Great example - but even worse than what Ken did.

[@HumbleTrader001]

@@rsdemarco While KT is lip syncing to studio recordings of his own voice, it's still pretty deceptive for a vocal coach to be miming in a live performance, instead of actually singing live.

[@Laura-rp2ki]

😂😂😂 🙌🙌🙌

[@petedavid9946]

Hey Fil, I’m one of those people who saw you rather factually take down one of my favorite singers for not really playing guitar in his performances (John Cougar M) and had to agree with you. I didn’t take your analysis as something derogatory, just something factual. Love it! Keep up the great work Fil!! 👍🏼👍🏼

[@utha2665]

I can see how people are upset over the analysis of their favourite musicians, they feel cheated but they are taking it out (lashing out) at the wrong person. People need to take a breath and think objectively before commenting.

[@nielshoogev1]

@@utha2665 There is not without a reason we have an expression like: "don't blame the messenger". It's a really common phenomenon that people don't want to be confronted with certain facts and blame the one bringing it up.

[@EllaSilentDragon]

He shouldn’t even try to defend himself. Most people won’t believe what they don’t want to believe. (We all have that problem to some extent. But there are people that are resistant to any kind of argument). And others are not even capable to understand the explanation anyways. Some are just trolls. Trying to convince those groups is just frustrating. 😅🤷🏼‍♀️

[@kevwills858]

​@@utha2665 Or buying tickets to any ticketmaster promoted production.

[@vickicali]

I missed that one! John Mellencamp (I think he dropped Cougar???) doesn't play the guitar at his concerts??? What would be the reason? Sorry, for the questions. I will watch Fil's video soon.

[@moonbathing2002]

Aww bless you mate, the reason I subscribed is because you have no malice or agenda other than to educate with facts.

[@SuziQ.]

He’s also a talented guitarist. Check out the Fil Jams at the end of his livestreams. They’re backing tracks he’s never heard before, and plays guitar to. Last Saturday’s was a good one (sometimes the track that gets picked is meh, yet Fil still saves them with his playing).

[@troytrellman5011]

I've listened to Ken since the mid 1980's and would love to defend him here, but there is no way. The deception is clear to me, even without the pitch software proving it. I've heard the studio version of "Livin' for My Lord" literally hundreds of times and hearing the "live" performance I immediately knew.

[@Scotmend]

Ouch, that must have hurt!

[@Inisfad]

Wow…isn’t this amazing that Ken’s voice hasn’t changed in 34 years!! Truly a miracle….lol. I’ve learned so much, watching these videos. Thanks, Fil!

[@Durwood71]

That's the snake oil he's selling, that his techniques will help you maintain your power and range for a lifetime. Of course he can only "prove" it by miming to an album track he recorded three decades ago, but what does he care as long as the marks keep paying?

[@s.w.h96]

It’s a miracle!!! Hahahahaha (sorry. That was mean.)

[@lilgreenmomo]

​​@@Durwood71This isn't in defence of him (Ken), but it is a comment on your criticism of him. If you take vocal lessons regularly, and you learn to sing properly with good technique, it is entirely reasonable to expect that you can maintain your vocal ability, because in learning to sing properly you are essentially training muscles. In Ken's case (and as Fil says) he can sing, and his channel output is that of someone who is a professional, so it's reasonable to expect that his vocals haven't altered much. If you're someone like me, starting as a largely untrained amateur, it's reasonable to expect the vocal would improve over time even if you're older, as mine has (improved lower register and improved connection between registers particularly). The only 'snake oil' would be to suggest that a vocal will be 100% accurate 100% of the time, so yes it's reasonable to criticise that aspect, but overall, not so much.

[@Durwood71]

@@lilgreenmomo The fact that so many of Ken's videos are just lip synch theater gives us plenty of reason to question how good of a singer he really is.

[@Skaarxiong1]

neither is Corey Feldman, after 30 years, he still suck but at least he's real or just don't get the joke or whatever.

[@chuckm4540]

Thank you Fil for being honest and truthful. No shame in that, keep up the good work mate!

[@wsjiii]

Simply put, people just don't want to believe it.

[@zyxwut321]

My mom used to always say, "don't do the right thing when it's hard because you think everyone will understand and appreciate you. They usually won't. Do it because it's important to you." There are always lies, gossip and mischaracterizations that will inevitably come your way when you reveal difficult truths people don't want to hear. When many people are emotionally invested in an artist, they don't WANT to know the seedy underside of how the sausage gets made. Sorry you lost subscribers but please know that you've likely gained respect from the vast majority of us who regularly follow your content. Rock, my friend!

[@1msbucket]

Fil does a nice job of just trying to plead his case without anger. Trying to get ppl to understand. He's very patient and heartfelt.

[@stevetournay6103]

At a very quick glance at just a bit of this comment thread, Fil seems to have picked up at least three new subs because of this...and that's just three I noticed. I'm quite sure he'll gain more than he loses.

[@HotRod12667]

Moral of the story: don't get emotionally invested in an artist. They are never who they appear to be.

[@garyloewenthal]

Just subscribed.

[@1msbucket]

@@zyxwut321 very well said!

[@quazink]

Fil you absolutely nailed it when you said, "it's not that my video is negative, you're seeing what ever I'm explaining as negative". You're correct, it's their subjective opinion of what you're explaining. As you said you can't tell a person how to think, their free to think what ever they want. I've been watching your videos for years and you have never bashed anyone in your analysis videos. All you can do Fil, (and all you've ever done) is provide us with the hard data as proof of what we're hearing. The software you use doesn't lie. It's a shame some people continue to deny the truth. I don't know what to say except at this point, I don't think there's anything you could do or say to get the deniers to, "see the light."

[@BoondockRoberts]

“It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.” EDIT- Hah, attributing this to Mark Twain because of my lazy google search is a good example of how this can happen. Except I have the ability to research a dispute and admit if I was incorrect about something which I am here, unlike the focus of this vid. So here is a genuine Mark Twain quote (unless someone proves this one wrong as well but I did my homework this time) “If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything.”

[@loriematthews6418]

@@BoondockRoberts gotta love Mark Twain! 👌🏼💯

[@Hobbs-1]

Absolutely.

[@stuartanderson6785]

Exactly. Pointing out the fact that it was lip synched also pointed out the fact that these people were fooled and that pisses them off. Therefore they must attack the messenger rather than just accept the truth.

[@maisiesummers42]

"I agree with Mark Twain." - Geoffrey Chaucer

[@PolyphonicSigma]

I hope that's true

[@giggigidy6998]

I would like to formally request that you keep making videos... regardless of whom's butt gets hurt 🤘

[@adamgranger56]

75- year old lifetime pro here. CAN'T THANK YOU ENOUGH, FIL!!!

[@Mandy7D7]

You look great for 75 Adam, keep rocking! 🎸🤘🏻

[@kazjones-i2l]

@@Mandy7D7 You're an awesome human being!! ☮

[@jeffknight904]

Remember: it's not slander if its true.

[@DMSProduktions]

CORRECT!

[@Fukushima-e3n]

He does not post or have a genuine isolated vocal from the live performance he has in his first video. Fact

[@mandowarrior123]

That isn't quite right. It isn't slander if you have reason to believe it is true. A correct guess could still be slander.

[@david-spliso1928]

It's not a guess. The numbers don't lie.

[@MrWorldasmaya]

@@mandowarrior123 Wrong. A "correct guess" would, in fact, be "true" to any party that would be seeking recourse. So, you're creating a non-existent distinction. Lastly, re: slander, this is not a defense 'I "have reason to believe it is true." the only time such a defense would be relevant is with regard to proving Malice. Malice is not necessary to prove Negligence. In many jurisdictions that's all that is necessary for a successful judgement. If a defendant is relying on 'well gee I thought it was true when I said it'...that's not the standard. Anyway, hope that's helpful. It is a distinction with a difference.

[@douglas68storm]

I generally don't "care" about many of these issues...but honestly, Fil, I frequently watch your videos because it's a great relief to see someone who is so nice, kind, careful, caring, appreciative, and even apologetic when he upends the beliefs of others. You are an example of a good human being. This is the number one reason I watch.

[@s.w.h96]

Absolutely!!!

[@bijitbora]

Share your feelings. 💯

[@goatboy-l3d]

I think what's been underappreciated is how immensely talented you are as a musician and vocalist in your own right. We only catch glimpses in your analisys videos but you are just as talented as the artists you are reviewing.

[@redneckenigma3086]

I do not have a dog in this fight , however , your analysis is conclusive. The negative comments are without merit. Keep up the great work Fil!

[@hourenschaiss2]

Don't worry about that person who unsubscribed. I've been watching from the shadows for a while....today is the day I subscribe.

[@bh-rl9xs]

Ditto

[@stevetournay6103]

Yep. Saying again, Fil will gain more subs than he loses. Truth is becoming a hot commodity...

[@geoffsmith1479]

Thank god I'm not the only one. I subbed after watching this one too, having been watching the channel for a while casually. Partly as a middle finger to the commenter who said they unsubbed, but mostly because Fil is providing valuable, entertaining and well-considered content

[@newfgal1974]

Me too! 😊

[@joeflip2993]

Welcome to the Filistines

[@johndrx165]

I am sorry to see you are going through this. People will believe anything, which is super dangerous with all the AI and digital manipulation that is going on.

[@rickgrebenikpuggles56]

Yes, indeed,

[@oldermusiclover]

people always hate the fact that those they really admire have feet of clay, it is hard to turn loose of an image you have of some one

[@SiberianHusky666]

You're sorry to see him going through that??!! He's getting moneymaking content out of it, save your sympathies for people who eat uncooked chicken and then suffer from explosive diarrhea.

[@rickgrebenikpuggles56]

@@SiberianHusky666 your mad cuz he exposed the facts

[@SiberianHusky666]

@@rickgrebenikpuggles56 Pal, I'm on his side. I'm just saying the first comment is incredibly dumb.

[@kbbeers4274]

Your ability to maintain composure and be kind is astounding. When I’m ready to lose my cool, I need to remember, What Would Fil Say?

[@Yesica1993]

That one at 15:41 really angered me. A "true servant of God" wouldn't be so blatantly LYING. I'm so sick of this stuff. Thanks for all you do, Fil! You always back up what you say with the facts. If people choose to ignore them that's on them. Please never stop exposing these liars!

[@HumbleTrader001]

For such a man of faith, KT apparently lacks faith in his own ability to sing the high parts live without miming.

[@slatskatya]

Agree and besides uses godly threats. I am Christian but despise ppl that use God's name to threat others like that dude did. Fil is correct 💯 and the other guy is a pharisee (talking about the guy that commented )

[@MrJdsenior]

@@slatskatya Yup, I was a Christian once, and seem to remember a few things about pointing out the splinter in another's eye while ignoring the log in your own. and 'judge not, lest ye be judged'. There are about 100 others that apply. It is strange now, to not be religious, and know far more about the teachings in the bible than most of these bible thumpers. The real and most basic premise, with regard to human interaction, is to love your fellow man, which is precisely the opposite of what they do, apparently. I don't buy the hocus pocus in the bible anymore, but the REAL Earthly basic premise of Christianity is kind of unassailable, and it is most definitely not hate, exclusion, belittling, judging, yada, yada. I hear a preacher once say that if Christians acted a little more saved, maybe people who aren't Christians might be more interested. I concur. And yes, I've known both kinds, some who walk the walk far better than I ever have.

[@johnmorgan7947]

​@MrJdsenior 😢 I'm very sorry you said ONCE was a Christian!!! . My friend...were u saved in the 1st place..? . Ur a perfect example ..of .. What the N/T.. says.. . At the end times".. . There will be a great FALLING AWAY ".. . As for Jesus saying Do not JUDGE.. . Many people are CONFUSED . We're all CALLED to make RIGHTEOUS JUDGMENTS . ( example) . Would u want a pedo" .. working in the SCHOOL system? . Our APOSTLE is paul ...GRACE message . As for Jesus.. Do not judge ".. . JESUS was addressing a " Jewish ".. crowd. . Not the body of CHRIST.. ... ( believing " gentiles ) . Please Google. Matthew chapter 27v27.. Proof!!!. . God loves you VERY MUCH.!❤ . ( btw..if you were in a calvinist church ...".. It's BETTER.. to Read.. at home Sunday a.m.)😊 🙏🏼

[@1msbucket]

As a believer, I'm ashamed of that kind of talk.

[@GlennShepMusic]

You're 100% correct, Fil. The facts are there and those of us with sound engineering training can spot it a mile off, both with the waveforms and even without. People's feelings are irrelevant - honesty and facts, not feelings are all that matter here

[@frankpentangeli7945]

I like your ethics, Fil. And I share them.

[@heatheredwards2719]

I'm sure this is going to get buried, but thank you Fil. Thank you for being one of the kindest and gentlest souls on the internet.

[@ChrisM541]

Fantastic analysis! As a professional scientist myself who has also played guitar and recorded for years, seeing those waveforms line up so perfectly was all the proof I - and anyone with even the slightest audio editing experience - needed that Ken was miming to a track he recorded years ago. Sad days when people think lying to their viewers is acceptable. Then again, today's music industry is full of 'artists' miming to their audiences at 'live' concerts. You're doing a fantastic job, Fil. Glad this is getting some excellent airtime.

[@stoneneils]

You aren't a singer dude. I can sing many songs exactly the same..jesus christ are you people lost. After 5,000 times singing the same stupid 2-3 minutes you will not find a pitch different whatsoever. Every grunt, hoot and howl is precisely the same stupid thing. You guys are thinking of bands or live..then its impossible...but singing alone in a room or studio? Jesus christ guys..its like riding a bike.

[@thomasbennett4853]

Facts don't mean anything anymore. The world we live in😢

[@JacoWium]

@@thomasbennett4853 Yep, it is indeed sad. The post-truth mindset is so prevalent and I wish I could have lived long enough to see a future generation snap out of it, but...alas.

[@SuziQ.]

@@JacoWium, Did you die? The way you worded that reads like you’re posting from the after life. Do you think that the twenty and thirty somethings are as messed up as the boomers, Gen X-ers, and the remnants of the silent generation?

[@Evolved-]

Fil is completely objective and gets vilified for it. What a world.

[@MrJdsenior]

SOP for at least half the human race, actually. And you can take that from either side you wish. :-)

[@Laura-rp2ki]

FIL!!!! You always make complete and objective sense. I was crushed to see the analysis of Celine’s performance at the Olympics BUT it is exactly this that kept me coming back. You show the data, explain the data, and bam… the conclusion writes itself. ❤

[@penninecounties3322]

So sorry Fil that you've had to go through this mess.

[@LHarris-h8y]

There's never a wrong time to do the right thing.

[@codygranrud6212]

Never be fake. Always be true.

[@kobush18]

I believe in your honesty 👍💯

[@HumbleTrader001]

Thank you for your excellent work! It even appears that KT has actually been miming since 1989. (when KT was in his mid 20s) Marc Ajax proved (in Marc's recent YT video) that KT's live performance with Shout at Cornerstone in 1989 (also found on YT) involved the use of pre-recorded studio album tracks that KT mimed to. It appears that KT has been miming in front of live audiences since his mid 20s.

[@Rkbmomma]

Hmm, same year as the Milli Vanilli lip synch debacle🤔

[@HumbleTrader001]

@@Rkbmomma Interesting coincidence. The Lord works in mysterious ways. LOL

[@thefirst9500]

It sounds like his actual real job is being a professional pretender more than a vocal coach, lol.

[@stevetournay6103]

Ah. So...well...they're right then. His vocals HAVEN'T changed in all those years...they've been canned the whole time!

[@DavidWilson_mfx]

You are doing the music industry a service, and a service to us, its listeners. Please don't stop.

[@HumbleTrader001]

Yes, he is doing a service for honest musicians that actually don't fake live performances.

[@kelleyursu8610]

Those responses read like paid trolls. You’re right, it’s obvious when you present the data. Ignore them

[@junoroxas]

The sound like Ken under one of his many damage control profiles. 😅

[@johnlemon874]

It's like he wrote them himself because it follows the same schemes: 1. Saying you're jealous 2. Saying it's for attention 3. Not addressing any arguments whatsoever and just saying what a great guy Ken is.

[@D1ofAquavibe]

Thorough, illuminating analysis done in a very objective and respectful way👍 (I’m an audio engineer and understand the impossibilities you highlight). Im not familiar with Ken but he seems to be a serious/excellent vocalist. There’s loads of tricks and procedures to “enhance” vocals today (like it or not, it’s commonplace). Unfortunately, he and his commenting fans seem to be uncomfortable and defensive with him being under the microscope (which is understandable), but his denial/cover-up is awkward/unfortunate🧐

[@Teffers]

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck". I’m not an expert, and it looked to me like he was miming. And you’ve proved it. Keep up the good work

[@Pelzi.]

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it might actually be a seagull in a duck costume lip-syncing the quacks!

[@Teffers]

🤭

[@stephengibbons287]

Youve always been the most professional, accurate and honest analyst Fil. no doubt about your credentials at all.

[@lori282smith2]

Oh my!! Not a musical bone in my body and I can understand exactly what you are explaining to us. Obviously missing the point on purpose

[@danisunseri5429]

Fil.. YOU ARE THE BEST!! Thank you for standing your ground and being kind and professional. Unfortunately, people hate the truth 😞

[@The_Amnesiac_Philosopher]

Charlie Brown said it the best..."Good grief." Keep on keeping on Fil! 💪 EDIT: Realized that I mispelled Fil. Fixed it. Sorry Fil.

[@DianeAvila-bv4fc]

100% supporter of this channel and will continue to be a subscriber.

[@_whatsername1911]

You have thousands and thousands of people who adore you and thank you. Ignore the few who don't. Go out for a beer or coffee or whatever instead. Give yourself a break.

[@stevetournay6103]

Not entirely joking: karaoke. I'm there right now. It is absolutely the best of medicine. And ain't no Autotune here either...

[@_whatsername1911]

@@stevetournay6103 Omg. Yes! 😂 I'm a female and my range can comfortably go pretty low. I love singing Mac the Knife

[@BiggerThanFrogs]

I really appreciate your work, Your kind (to a fault) approach and integrity are are unquestionable. I've learned so much from you channel over the years, and learned to appreciate great vocalists more than ever. Through you, I've also been introduced to so many great vocalists I never knew before, so thank you.

[@loriematthews6418]

The ignorance is OFF the charts anymore... You're doing a great job at describing these things! Thank you FIL!🌷

[@jenm9099]

Fil, I want you to know that I value truth and science over fluff and deception. Thank you for standing by truth.

[@painsme2]

What is wrong with knowing the truth? When the truth is harmful, and a lie is preferred we have a problem.

[@MrJdsenior]

What when? The time is long since past, my friend.

[@1msbucket]

And that problem is all over nowadays

[@Wyl7]

There’s unfortunately a reason why “ignorance is bliss” is a cliche

[@TheSimCaptain]

Although, the truth is never harmful. It might be unpleasant to some, but it always leads to something of value.

[@GA-1st]

Welcome to the reality of 2024!

[@frankmollegaard1989]

@13:00 "He didn't lip sink - I'm a high level vocalist, guitarist and record producer." lol absolute gold that is.

[@asafish1650]

The lip sink is for washing one's kisser.

[@Fastlane05]

I've followed Kens' channel for years. I can clearly "hear" the differences in the live concert, let alone the physical analysis. You are spot on!

[@SteveRyzuk]

Made a similar comment in your last video: I enjoy KT's music, and have for a long time! It seems to me, Fil, that you are absolutely correct in your analysis. As much as it sucks to see it be about a musician I admire, it is still the truth. And thank you for bringing it.

[@mariamason1919]

I am not a vocal coach blah, blah, blah... I have been watching your channel for ages and KNOW you to be honest, trustworthy and to my knowledge has never shared a video for "view grabs." YOU ARE A TEACHER AND TRUTH TELLER! You have educated so many people with ONLY GOOD INTENT and I thank you for that. "Every violation of truth is not only a sort of $uicide in the liar, but is a stab at the health of human society." ~ Ralph Waldo Emerson

[@GMLFire]

Right before watching this video, I watched a Steve Perry interview where he was talking about the voice being a fickle instrument. Very insightful interview, and as a singer myself I agree with what he said about the voice having a personality all its own: one day it's great, the next it's off, the next it's better than ever, the next it is still laying in bed and refuses to cooperate at all. The singer is the instrument, and the singer is not a machine. It's disturbing that the music industry reduces a human being to a machine; that human beings are defending the dehumanizing of artists; and that artists willingly participate in many cases. Very disturbing. Fil, these analysis videos are golden.

[@dupersuper6516]

It's funny, i must have watched every interview steve has ever done because I knew immediately what interview you were referring to. 😅

[@StickySyrupEverywhere]

I should be beaten for squandering what I was given. I didn't see that it was this valuable. I feel you.

[@JokersWildMusic]

Hang in there Fil - you are trying to open people's eyes and ears. Keep it up

[@silverclive]

Fil, your integrity is unquestionable. Continue with the very informative work that you do! This is a really great channel.

[@charlesmontgomery7002]

Love how you respond to the criticisms so calmly, objectively (sp?) and factually

[@kerrythomas6220]

Because he always speaks the truth!

[@hank3988]

He is British - they come across very polite even when they are angry or frustrated- he is well spoken

[@asmoto755]

Very strange of those commenters to bring religion into it. What does that have to do with anything? Anyway, thanks for this. Your videos are always interesting and I appreciate your non-judgemental attitude towards the artists you analyze very much :)

[@truesoundchris]

Religion is naturally concerned with fakery, because it is based on fakery and lies itself, and anyone who exposes small lies is a danger because he might expose the big lies (like there being another world where a God judges men after their death...) In a world where everybody had high respect for truth (less loftily said, for reality), there would be no priests, no scripture and no religion. They thrive on people being gullible and trusting tall tales more than their own senses.

[@kathrynambler1658]

I'm tired of looking at political ads. your website is refreshing and I believe accurate and I absolutely love everything you do to expose the music industry And to push the haters and skeptics to the brink. Your analysees (Analysis"s?) are refreshing and accurate I believe. I believe you. My take? Ignored the haters and skeptics for as long as you can before you have to address this horse pucky. "Live long and prosper." (Gene Roddenberry)

[@richardmaguire9536]

Keep being honest Fil. It is much appreciated.

[@jmbailey7220]

Please, continue to “bore” us with objective data! It’s greatly appreciated as a technical information and very educational.

[@curtvaughan2836]

It can be tough being a messenger - appreciate your work!

[@SkepticMark]

Your Rory Gallagher T shirt is great. I cannot find that anywhere….Hats off to you Fil, good video, keep up the good work.

[@kendallneason3645]

Keep telling the truth Fil. Don’t let the trolls get to you. Just keep explaining what your experience reveals!

[@nickdanger4568]

One thing I noticed in these replies... they never refuted you with facts, data or any other alternative version of analysis; they just voiced their opinion.

[@mikeydflyingtoaster]

Absolutely. There's a lot of arguments from authority going on here. "Trust me. I've been doing this for xx years. I know what I'm talking about"

[@module79l28]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion but that doesn't mean they're right.

[@thefirst9500]

It's either kindergarten insults ("you're jelly") or trying to deviate from the discussion with specious "logic" (what about music videos; he uses backing vocals; etc.). Not to mention the condescension, using religion. Thankfully it doesn't even seem to register with Fil, lol.

[@markmorris8532]

​@@module79l28 Like they say... "You're entitled to your own opinions, but you're not entitled to 'your own' facts"

[@module79l28]

@@markmorris8532 - Or that.

[@zjjir]

with only 0.7% dislikes, i'd say most people agree with you and support you. there are always a few people who are unappeasable. but I definitely admire your ability to challenge those who disagree with you, to stand up to them with additional evidence in such a positive way.

[@rolanddunk5054]

I am fully behind you Fil,it is obvious that some people will not believe the evidence as presented,so please carry on regardless of what others say.Your fans are still there.Cheers.

[@lassesaikkonen501]

So where's the rant? I watched the whole video and I'm still waiting for it. All I saw was a reasoned analysis.

[@tammydoolittle6054]

Thank you kindly, Fil, for another excellent analysis video! You are a man of integrity, and you always show us proof that what you're explaining to us is so. You're doing an incredible job, so don't change for no one. Rock!

[@kurtzwar729]

No singer can exactly reproduce a song. Ever. All jazz singers know this. No reason to. Creative freedom is the target. Fil is shining a bright light on singer's FRAUD. Thanks Fil.

[@morbidmanmusic]

All singers know it if they're good. Nothing to do with jazz.

[@lauraallen55]

All people with a Grasp of simple logic know it.

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Wait until some people learn that it may take a singer months to record vocals to one song. Some can barely do 2-3 takes before their voice is shot and they have to rest.

[@Melodymatters2me]

We ask for the analysis and Fil provides the irrefutable data. What is so hard to understand? Dont shoot the messanger just because you don't like the message. LEARN something new. Expand your minds, for the love of music. Thanks Fil. ❤🤘🎸🎤

[@rossmurray6849]

Just watched an interesting video on a channel called 'Guitar Stuff Studio'. A British singing teacher, known as Lexi-the-Red, has found a section on one of Ken's videos where his lesson includes a section taken word-for-word from the book 'Singing for Dummies'. So we can add plagiarism to the already proven lip-syncing of vocals and miming of guitar playing. By the way, this teacher, Lexi, said that Singing for Dummies was actually a very good book, and probably better value at 20 pounds compared to the 800 dollars for Ken's course.

[@GeorgeGanesh]

Utterly embarrassing. A vocal coach at 60 years old lipsyncing to vocals he recorded back when he was in his late 20s. Did he really think nobody would ever notice that? 😂

[@joerenner8334]

He just did the high parts. I'm 59. No way I could hit notes from my 20s. No one can. Doesn't make it right.

[@Spo-Dee-O-Dee]

@@joerenner8334 65 is about the upper limit for a tenor to keep his high notes if he keeps his voice in shape.

[@soddof7972]

​@@joerenner8334 that could well be the reasoning.

[@Fractalchemystical]

In Fil's last video on this topic I could tell that Tamplin wasn't playing the guitar and was just pretending to. Fil pointed it out but I could already tell anyway. Maybe it's because I've been playing guitar a long time and watch a lot of guitar videos that I could see it easily, I don't know, but it just looked so obvious to me that he wasn't even hitting the strings with his supposedly strumming hand. I'm surprised it would even fool anyone. I just find Ken Tamplin quite shameless and lacking integrity for trying to deceive people like this.

[@wilsonbrownofficial2828]

@@joerenner8334I’m 56 and can reach the A above high C (A5?) and I’m a natural baritone. I don’t dispute that Ken has been deceptive in what he’s portrayed, but he IS a good vocal coach . Just a shame he’s done what he did.

[@deborahrichardson2292]

There’s always about 1/3 of the population that will not except the truth if they don’t want that truth to be true. It’s very sad but most of us can see through your analysis where the truth lies & we are still here for you.

[@dillarddillard-p4e]

Thank you Fil,for your honest technical analysis. It is crystal clear no human voice can repeat identically ever! You are so calm and fact driven- you always manage to keep your head after terrible name calling messages. You have earned my respect and the respect of many more for your objective data driven PROOF in the face of rude belligerent comments. SUBSCRIBED‼️🎉😊

[@Tvianne]

welcome! 🥳🎉🍰🍾

[@dillarddillard-p4e]

@@Tvianne Thanks!😊

[@ogsegasteve9430]

damnit Fil, just when i think i couldnt like your content any more than i already do, you over-deliver yet again! this video is a master class in professionalism, teaching and just being a good dude. your tone, knowledge of the subject, objective approach and delivery are the gold standard (to me) for videos like this and its predecessor. thanks!

[@benbeck1]

Great explanation. Love your ability to explain things clearly.

[@kathymcbob3137]

People get so confused about objective versus subjective information lately. Thanks for your OBJECTIVE analysis.

[@itsfonk]

First time viewer here. Not a professional musician or audio tech. Thumbs up because I deeply appreciate your calm, objective approach to this apparent disagreement. I wish more journalists today used such an approach filtering misinformation and propaganda from our news sources. Now I’m off to check out the backstory to all this drama…

[@AlanTov]

We live in a world of cults where followers leave behind any ethics, objectivity or common sense. Embarrassing

[@albanana683]

Actually I would be quite happy to join the Cult of Fil.

[@stevetournay6103]

Embarrassing? Absolutely bloody terrifying...

[@stevetournay6103]

​@@albanana683Heh. Fil wouldn't start one...

[@endlessstudent3512]

So true, and the cults are manifold. 200 years ago the only cults were the standard religions...nowadays people make cults out of everything.

[@thop1984]

Good on you Fil for presenting truth and facts. Living in the USA I know how facts are uncomfortable for some people. Pointing out that someone may not be on the up and up can destroy those who idolize them, and they fire back with negativity. The fact is, nobody is perfect and frankly there is nothing wrong with using technology to help live performances or even recordings. It just would be nice if they were honest about it so that their fans can understand it's okay to point it out. Keep up the good work.

[@danielc1978]

Fil, you don't need to defend yourself against these (personal) attacks from others; as you clearly say, you presented objective data, you did not attack him personally, and these commenters have not presented a valid counter argument to what you have presented. We need more critical thinking and knowledge of how to present valid counter-arguments, as opposed to people just voicing opinions and personal attacks. You always are diplomatic and conscientious in your approach, nobody can say otherwise...

[@sudelaine8653]

I totally agree with @danielc1978, especially his opinion that you, Fil, don't need to defend yourself against people who aren't interested in facts. I know it's extremely frustrating when you KNOW you're right and some bozo comes along who refuses to see what's right in front of his nose. But I'm honestly worried about you, Fil. You're going to give yourself an ulcer, or whatever, twisting yourself in knots to try to persuade people who are un-persuadable. So here's some advice from a total stranger: Announce to your subscribers that, at least for awhile, you're not going to fill any more requests of the "Is it live vs pre-recorded?" type. Instead, you'll return to applying your expertise and your objective tools to ALL aspects of music performances. I think that's what you enjoy more and what earned you most of your subscribers to begin with. Whether or not you follow that advice, please, take care of yourself!

[@dougmacpherson927]

Related to Fil's opening comments about some vocals being live ..I was at HFStival 2024 yesterday outside at Nationals baseball park. Liz Phair was performing on stage and my said to "she sounds our of tune." Yet when she sung 4 loud refrains singing "Why Can't I!" Each was identical in pitch volume, and annunciation. I closed my eyes just listening and it sounded "enhanced" or autotuned live. No data. Just my ear. In contrast, the Violent Femmes Gordon Gano was his usual charming and sometimes off key self. Beloved and real!

[@Laura-rp2ki]

Interesting!

[@croaker6099]

She was never a strong vocalist