Guitar Effects Order - Reverb, Delay & Modulation Before Or After Overdrive? That Pedal Show

Where should you place your reverb, delay and modulation effects pedals in relation to overdrive and distortion? We look at the options to help you decide.
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In this episode we challenge the commonly accepted 'standard' pedal order and try some alternatives. We are looking specifically at delay, reverb and modulation: how they react before and after overdrive in your signal chain. As we discover, some of these pedal order changes bring subtle results… while others are very radical.
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Pedals & stuff in this episode…
• TheGigRig Three2One
www.thegigrig.com/three2one
• Kingsley Page Boost
kingsleyamplifiers.com/product...
• Keeley D&M Drive
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2oTblU1
Australia: bit.ly/2pUDUAE
USA: bit.ly/3DIJDia
• Free The Tone Fire Mist
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2tW1Yr2
• Jam Pedals Waterfall
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2MifNem
USA: bit.ly/3pZNPFF
• Neo Instruments Mini Vent II
USA: imp.i114863.net/Dx7vo
• Catalinbread Belle Epoch Deluxe
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2RVldeS
Australia: bit.ly/2Ovelqa
USA: bit.ly/3y8xIZY
• Empress Reverb
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2wpXw6M
Australia: bit.ly/2wq2lgp
• Peterson Strobo Stomp HD Tuner
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2Ozf60o
USA: imp.i114863.net/5Jov9
Australia: bit.ly/2lM39so
• TheGigRig G2
www.thegigrig.com/g2
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Interesting bits and go-to sections…
- Intro playing: 0:00
- What are we talking about today?: 1:45
- Let's get started, what drives are we using?: 2:45
- Amps today?: 3:10
- Our low, medium and higher gain sounds: 4:00
- Let’s start with chorus and overdrive - standard position? 4:50 (5:33)
- Chorus before and after overdrive: 6:49
- What do we mean when we say 'gain'?: 7:34
- Chorus with medium gain, before and after: 9:58
- So where does Dan like his chorus?: 13:38
- …and finally chorus with high gain: 14:30
- Delay before or after overdrive? 15:55 (16:56)
- Higher gains and delay before and after overdrive: 19:06
- What happens when we self oscillate the delay?:20:35
- Mick’s short delay-before-and-after-overdrive tangent: 24:06
- Reverb… starting with plate sounds: 25:13
- … with more gain: 30:20
- …and more: 31:58
- What the heck? 32:21
- Some thoughts on amp overdrive and reverb 34:16
- Out comes the Jazzmaster and reverse reverb!: 36:30
- Reverse reverb? 37:35
- Add some delay to the reverse reverb: 40:08
- Rotary speaker simulator: Mini Vent before and after drive: 43:05
- There is no right or wrong - just listen and choose what you prefer: 46:33
Guitars in this episode:
• Fender Custom Shop 1963 Telecaster - Dan’s video at bit.ly/2dlZJ6K
• Gibson Memphis 1958 ES-335 - Mick’s video at bit.ly/2mpJA8X
• Fender Classic Series Jazzmaster Lacquer - no video yet
Amps in this episode
• Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III with Celestion G12P-80 - no longer made, link to latest version
UK & Europe: bit.ly/2KBwMWc
USA: imp.i114863.net/A67vx
• Vox AC15C1 with Celestion G12M Greenback
UK & Europe: bit.ly/36BSfrw
USA: bit.ly/3E0H1Qs
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