Guitarist Reacts to Ren - Back on 74 / Message in a Bottle Retake |

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I really am excited for more new ‪@RenMakesMusic‬. This took a classic I grew up with and a pretty new song and made them mesh so well together. I loved this retake!
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[@steveknutson5617]

I emailed the valentino bar where this was filmed and suggested if it hadn't started already they would probably become a pilgrimage site for the millions of ren fans for any of them visiting brighton. i suggested they concoct a Ren cocktail, charge 25 pounds and give 5 pounds to rens rescue charity and 5 to ren to make more videos. . and that they should keep somewhere on their website a running total and each month a facsimile of the 2 checks. haven't heard back yet. the cocktails on their menu were 11 to 13 pounds.

[@bevc5349]

Great idea! ❤

[@mcflyjp]

Did they respond?

[@bethstratton3391]

Agree, the cocktail idea is excellent, but £25 is a bit steep for many, cost of living crisis and all that, maybe ask for a voluntary contribution to be added rather than a fixed amount.

[@steveknutson5617]

if their cocktails are 11 to 13 pounds for what seems like very complicated and specialty drinks, and extra 10 which is going to their favorite person and his charity doesn't seem like much. after all these aren't poor people coming to brighton and lounging in a fairly high-priced bar. avolutary contribution would defeat the purpose in my opinion. there are all kinds of extras i could envision- a special glass made with the sick boi logo and a box to put it in as a souvenir when it is empty. maybe with every ren drink you get a postcard of ren and gang from the taping, possibly autogrphed with one of the 5-singers, guitarist, ren and samuel. they would be in a sealed envelope and randomlyinclude a coupon for a ren merch. . Then when ren is living more time in brighton he could have unannounced appearances at the bar when he picks up the checks. can you imagine him playing freckled angels there?. This is all predicated on valeninos bar indeed becoming a destination for ren's fans. I just have a feeling it will. who wouldn't want to visit a place so cool, where ren has performed?@@bethstratton3391

[@bethstratton3391]

@@steveknutson5617 I love the idea of the special glass.

[@Carl-gj4ed]

Ren has very good singing technique. He sings from the diaphram which many singers don't and they just use their head voice. He also has a tonne of force and conviction behind what he's singing, which many singers don't. He is picky and appreciates what the source material, which many artists don't. When you can see the veins on his neck popping out you know he's serious. :)

[@kellyt5341]

Ren also has a "polyphonic" voice. He can break his voice into multiple pitches at the same time. Not a lot of singers can do that and sound clean, clear and stay on the correct pitch.

[@mcflyjp]

@@kellyt5341 hmmm. Has someone confirmed this? I haven’t heard that yet in any of his songs.

[@kellyt5341]

@@mcflyjp I heard it about 7 or 8 months by a reactor that is a vocal teacher/coach, and I just heard it again recently by another. I had no idea what that meant until I heard them both explained it the same way. He was busking outside the first time I heard it.

[@jacks9624]

What, that's all? LOL, We all wanted the blasted thing to last longer... But it's Ren. Always leaves us hungry for more

[@mcflyjp]

I always know 3 things going into a Ren track: I will be satisfied, something will surprise me, I will leave with blue balls.

[@krikat3485]

‘Oh, it’s over?’ My reaction, too! Agree with you REN’s voice is great, and his range is too. REN very often uses his thumb when playing. He’s self taught (off KZbin) so has some different ways to approach his playing. Whatever works, right? Great reaction. As a former guitarist, I like getting into the chords and such. I really like that Ren finger picks a lot, and plays acoustic.

[@mcflyjp]

The finger picking thing has been frustrating me. I have learned all the beginner guitar stuff from a teacher but was self taught with all the advanced stuff and I created extremely bad habits that I'm trying hard to break.

[@Peacetrain66]

I am a Police lover too, and this is such 🔥🔥🔥nobody can mash up songs like Ren. He makes them into something totally new, totally his❤

[@urielsmachine997]

Circa 1974, life was free and contented. Fifty years flow under the bridge and we need to send out an SOS to the world..which is more than a place in space on a spinning ball. Clever music for the 21st century.

[@mcflyjp]

Things never change.

[@DigitalianFX-GT]

Did you notice the flip of Sting's lyrics - Just a lonely day , an island lost that sea, as to Just a castaway an island lost that sea. Another castaway with no one here but me - Another lonely day with no one here but me.. At first I thought oh he got it wrong.. But it was intentional I think, cause flipping those words, still gave the phrases sense.. I hope he got a little more of Message in a Bottle to be honest. There's a clip of Ren busking Message in a Bottle out with Ruby J, you gotta see that. The woman's got soul!

[@belinda35]

I agree that Ren sounds better than Sting...no offense to Sting, I love him too. The addition of background singers was a genius move on his part. They add so much to the vibe of the song. Thanks for the great reaction!

[@amagab2346]

Because Ren smiles and lives when he sings. Looking back the 80s could be way too cold. I see that when I Watch old Sting.

[@mcflyjp]

Anyone know the backup singers names? Asking for a friend

[@belinda35]

@@mcflyjp Sylvia and Scarlett. Don't know last names.

[@phlippbergamot5723]

@@mcflyjpScarlet Fae. She has a small KZbin channel. She has some real good songs there though. I hope to see more of her and her friend Sylvia Mwenze

[@ancltube]

​@@mcflyjp Their full names (and links to their youtube channels) are in the description of the original video.

[@DogDocKat]

Ren is so darn good! Love Sting but Ren's voice is just amazing. Really enjoyed your reaction 💜💜

[@mcflyjp]

Thank you very much. Yeah something about Ren’s voice pulls you in.

[@AmaBrigitte]

I loved Ren's performance, especially the choices he made adding beautifully talented back-up singers, his cool friend on base, and the combination of singing parts of two cover songs and incorporating his own rap lyrics, as well! He and his crew did an outstanding job! Loved your breakdown and showing the chords on your guitar! ❤🎉forgot to mention Sam for his wonderful videography 🎉

[@mcflyjp]

Lots of people involved. Always takes a village!

[@Shiroar]

This was another brilliant ReNtake. Just Ren doing Ren things. Crazy runs and harmonies, filthy bars to remind us that he is also still a cheeky boi, and that voice that’s perfect for Sting/The Police songs. Ren has music in his soul and pours so much soul into everything he does. We’re just lucky to witness it 🐰🕳️

[@mcflyjp]

I honestly think he sang it better that Sting but maybe that's just me.

[@jasonklenetsky5687]

You and I had the same reaction when it was over….. “damnit” 😂

[@mcflyjp]

I just listened to it on repeat after I stopped recording. That helped.

[@lleldridge1]

🔥🔥🔥retake by Ren. Big luv to Kai and the ladies, Sam on camera. Chef's 💋 Thanks for the reaction!

[@mcflyjp]

Thank you too!

[@kathleenwincott5581]

On BTS it showed him deciding to do this, arrange it write the rap and practice all in 10 days! Excellent reaction ❤

[@rudyb.]

Yeah, Ren surrounds himself with good friends that lifts him & vice-versa. I enjoyed Kia’s cool bass assortment!

[@mcflyjp]

Who was the right background singer. Asking for a friend 😅

[@francesdoll4039]

​@@mcflyjpnames are in description. On the right is Scarlett Fae

[@ezrasace]

Loved your reaction. The all over vibe of the song was so chill. I wonder what the next iteration of Ren will be.

[@mcflyjp]

I am ready for new new stuff too.

[@helenjarvis7755]

Thanks for replaying the message in a bottle bit I get it having listened to the song every day since it was released Just love it Appreciated your guitar demonstration too

[@mcflyjp]

Glad you enjoy it! Trying to look at the song from all different angles.

[@amagab2346]

Another thing for me is I really believe Ren really feels “Message in a bottle”. He had many lonely years and he is trying to let it go.

[@rudyb.]

There’s that loneliness feeling in his, “Fred Again mashup” too.

[@mcflyjp]

Ren puts emotion into everything he does.

[@rudyb.]

Besides the incredible musical performance by Ren here, he should sell his wardrobe look. He is looking great! I really enjoyed your reaction/breakdown. It’s been awhile. The last part of the song is breathtaking!

[@mcflyjp]

Trying to do more Ren and just more bands overall

[@callmeeley]

Love your breakdown of this song, if you like Ren's take on The Police, try The Big Push version of English man in New York it's class ❤ from the UK

[@kellyt5341]

Sting yelling "Who sounds like me, but better"? 😂I knew he would, because Ren did "Englishman in New York" and it was much better, Ren's voice and the band as a whole.

[@mcflyjp]

Sting didn't even have good technique early in his career. He was a bass player first and foremost.

[@dancerbird76]

Can listen this retake over and over……love that Ren is just able to make these tracks his own. Goosebumps on the harmonies…absolute 🔥🔥 Ren singing Message in a Bottle ….wow, sounds so good. Thanks JP for another great reaction.

[@TobiiRheaStarr]

I listen to this over and over 😂 I’m obsessed! He sings more like Sting than Sting does 😂 definitely does both songs better than the originals. I wanna hear a full Police mashup from Ren! 🖤 Bassist - Kai Lacey Singers - Sylvia Mwenze & Scarlett Fae Cinematography- Sam Perry-Falvey Back on 74/ Message in a bottle {BACK ON 74} Keep it rockin', doin’ the same thing And we get high on the breakdown And we were watching from the same time But that don't change what I think now. And we were talking 'bout the same crime No, we don't hide when it rains now I learned my lesson at the same time Ooh, ooh ooh ooh where did it Go, back on 74 Call this place my home Never gonna cry anymore Where did it all go Ooooh ooooh ooooh ooooh ooooh Keep it rockin', doin' the same thing And we get high on the break down And we were watching from the same time But that don't change what I think now And we were talking 'bout the same crime No, we don't hide when it rains now I learned my lesson at the same time Ooh, where did it Go, back on 74 (when I noticed you) Call this place my home Never gonna cry anymore Where did it all Go, let it go Let it go Ooh, let it go Let it go Let it go Ooh (Guitar Solo) Let's take em back to 74 inherently poor/pour Myself on the (Break down) Talk is secondary, first my speciality, Naughty bars on a (Take down) Rap/wrap like nicotine, sound so addicting, Click click Zippo flick, caddy daddy hit the green Soak up dopamine, I mean dope scheme Take more head than the blade of a guillotine, uh Filipina - you shoulda seen her She likes girls but I turned Tina Angelina wanna raid her tomb Ocarina with the Zelda moves Sound so smooth, wax strip groove Don't stay still when I make that move Thought for food, colour scheme nude Massive like jungle, shy but rude And the world is yours, That's a Nas shout out with an awkward…pause Cos the world is flawed when the power makes money and the money makes wars And the world is more than a place in space on a spinning ball But for now that's all, back to 1974 Go, back on 74 Call this place my home Never gonna cry anymore Where did it all go Ooooh ooooh Ooooh ooooh {MESSAGE IN A BOTTLE} Just a lonely day, an island lost at sea, oh Another castaway, nobody here but me, oh More loneliness than any man could bear Rescue me before I fall into despair, oh (Let it go) Sending out an SOS (Let it go) Sending out an SOS (Let it go) Sending out an SOS (Let it go) Sending out an SOS (Let it go) Message in a bottle, yeah (Let it go) Message in a bottle, yeah

[@andrewparker9569]

Great reaction The Add9 chord is such a super stretchy chord Andy Summers makes it look so easy

[@mcflyjp]

I cut some of it out but trying to play it like Ren did without pivoting the wrist was pissing me off. Lol I have hands on the smaller side.

[@phlippbergamot5723]

"Massive like Jungle..." Jungle was the group who created 'Back on 74.'

[@Lynxeye-Youtube]

It's a huge joy, isn't it?!... It's our ARTIST... Ren! So good! Thanks for the reaction.

[@kathleenwincott5581]

Backing singers listed on info on Ren's video they've both got youtube channels ❤

[@salishseamermaid]

One of my wishes is to hang out somewhere where Ren is just jamming.

[@mcflyjp]

I think that's all of us at this point.

[@MissMeKate]

Was great to learn a bit more about the guitar work on this, thank you. ❤

[@mcflyjp]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JoelMyaer]

Ren's great at leaving us all wanting more... 😊

[@mcflyjp]

At some point the blue balls is going to burst. Lol

[@jeffwilson3205]

His Sting rules. But the tremolo…I also know he loves Jeff Buckley…that’s the one I’m really waiting for. Lover I Should’ve Come Over is my dream pick, but he could really do any Buckley.

[@rudyb.]

I’m waiting for a Jeff Buckley retake also. Can’t wait.

[@mcflyjp]

Like I said I thought his voice sounded better for the song imo.

[@jeffwilson3205]

@@mcflyjp yeah…on the very off chance that sting kicks the bucket before Stewart Copeland and Andy Summers, I know who I want to see fronting the final Police tour. 🤣

[@MalcolmMXTaylor]

Wow cool to see you playing the guitar as well dude!! Great reaction as always

[@mcflyjp]

Thanks very much!

[@mrdarengilbert3907]

Sooo good man Hope you have been well Me I haven’t had any drunken power tool accidents since Christmas 🙏

[@mcflyjp]

Thanks for the kind words. Glad you're doing good as well.

[@user-pt8ux5tg6v]

Ren is so cool that his guitar and the bass guitar are both from 1970 and the late 60's

[@Pablopax4]

Ren nearly always plays 7th's rather than straight Majors and Minors, I agree with him on that choice, I do that too.

[@mcflyjp]

That's a jazz background right there. Always play 7ths.

[@Pablopax4]

Yeah, I try to lean into the Jazzy voicings, It helps when using more dissonant passing chords.@@mcflyjp

[@geofthompson3844]

You'd think that Ren can't possibly get better, but then he goes and bloody does. 😂😂 His singing in particular just seems to be going to another level, and he was already top tier. Ren must have unlocked god tier 😂😂

[@mcflyjp]

I think he's just taking more risks. Which is great!

[@yilomina2047]

love this!

[@SandraP3796]

This song is 🔥🔥🔥.

[@mcflyjp]

Agreed.

[@babyhuey4131]

Ren is always outstanding!!!

[@mcflyjp]

Agreed. Never a bad moment from the guy.

[@JoeYo77]

Sting is an ok singer? Hmmm never heard that one before but he actually sounds just like sting in this and other songs he sings too IMO. He May actually have a better voice but he’s a unicorn! Sting is still amazing. But Ren is. Generational talent.

[@mcflyjp]

Sting in the police had very bad technique and would've blown out his voice is he kept singing that way. He learned later in their albums and definitely on his solo career where he was much better, imo.

[@user-to2yi3hr3o]

FINALLY someone realizes Message In A Bottle actually subtly starts at the start of the second verse !!!

[@mcflyjp]

Seemed obvious to me. Riff is pretty unique.

[@SickBoiRENegade]

Subbed❤

[@mcflyjp]

Thank you!

[@NightFogFilms]

Check out Behind the scenes - kzbin.info/www/bejne/nYq2lKKYmZJjasUsi=kdwCgwK3Yt8GSD6H The song Back on 74 is by Jungle and came out August 10, 2023 and already has over 20 million views - kzbin.info/www/bejne/p2TPiWWmlLqsb6ssi=OsCPUHEvPJuSfRCv

[@mcflyjp]

Yeah. As I mentioned in my video I've heard and seen the Jungle song/video. Really cool video.

[@sampanther8854]

Thank you ❤️🤘

[@mcflyjp]

No problem 😊 thank you for subscribing.

[@alc6329]

❤

[@sputukgmail]

I agree with you that Ren sounds better than Sting - for me, it’s because Sting is trying to be cool when performing this, where as Ren is making it sound vulnerable and desperate.

[@mcflyjp]

It's also because early in his career Sting had bad singing technique. He grew into Sting the solo artist. He wasn't always like that.

[@sputukgmail]

@@mcflyjp ah, good point.

[@bethstratton3391]

Just love this track. The more I listen to it the more I live it. Ren is almost more Gordon Sumner than Sting, the flexibility in his vocals and his falsetto is fire. The way he switches mics is clever too. His voice so slick and full of food for the soul. These two tracks go together so well and Ren’s rap adds a cheeky element to the mix, I mean “turn Tina” is just so funny. The harmonies make this track for me. Sylvia and Scarlett were so on point, their timing excellent. The idea of history repeating and us never learning the lessons that community and respecting each other is worth always worth more than money and success. The side swipe to caddy daddies in the rap made me smile. Ren is saying don’t become someone for whom the status symbol car means more than the family. It impresses very few people and is just pandering to consumerist tropes. I have to disagree with what you said about Sting only being an OK singer, I think he’s super accomplished. Listen to more of his solo stuff and you might change your mind.

[@SickBoiRENegade]

❤❤❤🫶🔥🔥🔥

[@sarahsmith8780]

#RenMakesMusic #Ren #TheBigPush #SamTompkins #Viktus #RomainAxisa #GorranKendall #CHINCHILLA #EdenNash #RubyJ #JointdaleRecords #TashSultana #LivSangster🔥🔥!! 🌎❤️

[@lulumeto]

#RenDoingRenThings ❤

[@amagab2346]

Just about everybody. Flackerphotos?

[@mcflyjp]

Wait why did Tash on there. Did they collab?

[@sarahsmith8780]

No, but I learned of her through Ren. These are the artists I think the algorithm needs to be pushing out to the world... there's WAY TOO MUCH TALENT that gets ignored or never discovered!!

[@brendan697]

And hes welsh 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@therabbits168]

He out-stung sting.

[@Traveler13]

Would be great to see stings reaction to this

[@angusmclean4783]

Wow, such brilliant insight from stating the obvious.

[@mcflyjp]

Which is what exactly. Enlighten us all.

[@graceydez6199]

So on a scale from 1-10, what would you rate Ren on guitar, be honest. 😊

[@adam.4487]

Stings was ok, Ren is better with his rendition of MIAB, The Jungle song was new for me, first time I hear is by Ren, had to find Jungle performance to hear it. Ren slowed things down into his style and just had fun with them. Rens style is just perfection, he gets me to listen and HEAR other songs and artists I would never have heard about or had no interest in at all. So kudo's to Ren lifting other artists sharing their styles with us as well.

[@mcflyjp]

His singing is better. The original song is great.

[@jeffwilson3205]

And not to be that guy…but I’m a modulation junkie, and that’s 100% chorus on both the bass and guitar. 😂

[@mcflyjp]

I tried reproducing the sound with chorus and I couldn't get it just right, Phaser got me there 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@jeffwilson3205]

@@mcflyjp video was great…still doing fantastic work! Always happy when your videos pop up!

[@mcflyjp]

Appreciate you!

[@redzwestisbest]

Singing like Sting long term will reck your voice.... I think that is why Ren doesn't just do long Policy mashups.

[@mcflyjp]

Yep. But people didn't like when I said sting was just an ok singer in earlier in his career. Not proper technique.

[@redzwestisbest]

I also noticed for this particular performance you can see Ren check with the Cameraman/Sam or someone else to see if the take up to that point was good.....so he can get into the Message in the Bottle part...check the video around that time in slower motion. I think he wanted to limit the amount of times singing that part. @@mcflyjp

[@francesdoll4039]

Absolutely think Ren did it better. Slowed it and wrnt higher. And without all the other band, it cut right to the heart. I call it silk and honey with a side of soul

[@Discobiscuit372]

Love Ren but the original Back On 74 by Jungle is so much better than this retake.

[@mcflyjp]

It's not meant to be a competition but more an homage and a different take.

[@Discobiscuit372]

⁠@@mcflyjp lol, you literally just said that Ren sounds better than Sting which is exactly what I said, Jungle sound better than Ren. 🤷‍♂️

[@mcflyjp]

@@Discobiscuit372 I more so meant Ren wasn’t trying to make it a competition. But I agree with you. Most of his retakes the originals are better.

[@mcflyjp]

@@Discobiscuit372 also I don’t think his rendition of Message in a Bottle is better than the original either.

[@Discobiscuit372]

@@mcflyjp 👍

[@belgand5555]

Thank you my friend… was looking forward to your take on this… sometimes, but not really you just can’t believe what you hear… he takes calculated risks at all times but to be fair his equations always add up… I haven’t personally found a song yet that I disagreed with his choices… he just something special… Thank you always… 🖤🫶🏻🖤x

[@mcflyjp]

Very well said. His surprising me is something is should expect at this point.