GUN GRIPES

[@juanvargas211]

I've been to some gun stores where it seems like if they don't even want to talk to you.

[@matt1315s]

There is a gun shop in Lynnwood WA that is like that. They are rude and they really dont care. The guy behind the counter didn't even safety check the gun that I was looking at.

[@binyamj]

Lynnwood gun? The prices there are way too high

[@chancepaladin]

Agreed, Had this happen at Fisherman’s Marine and Outdoor tried them several times and each time they're just assholes to us at the gun counter.. Don't know what's up their ass. They typecast us immediately and have decided we don't fit in their category or whatever and literally ignore us, but will treat other people just fine. But we go to other shops and get treated amazingly. So you got to just remember those stores and those become your "home store" but it shouldn't be that way. And I still don't understand what gets up their ass. Maybe they just literally don't know and are total assholes.. which is scary. :( but some people they immediately welcome just fine. I just don't know.

[@17hmr243]

yar same cant throw $$$ at some stores $$$ solves most problems but they still dont want it

[@Ispowzfmanalog15]

Chance Paladin sometimes they work 13 hours straight and are tired, haven't taken a break, because every time they try to leave the floor, they get stopped by customers and don't want to be perceived as assholes, so they tell themselves as soon as they are done with this customer, then they can finally go take that shit, they have been holding in since the shop opened 6 hours ago. There is always that possibility. But, who gives a fuck about the employees... they are just elitist assholes that don't want to sell product and keep their job. Yeah, fuck retail workers.

[@hoosierarcher]

I was the Sporting Goods manager of a Woolworth in the Detroit metropolitan area. I took it upon myself to learn everything I could about everything we sold. I tried to be as helpful as possible. Just before waterfowl season three guys walk up to my counter and ask if we have any semiautomatic shotguns. I say yes we have Remington 1100s. We even have a combo set on sale right now. It comes with two barrels. One with a set of screw in chokes. One Rifled barrel for slugs for deer hunting. I ended up selling them each one of the combo kits. the next day 8 more guys show up sent by the other two and want the combo kits. I only had 6 left in storage. I called the 3 closest stores to see if they had any they could transfer to our store. No joy. I call our distributor and he agrees to send me 4 overnight delivery no extra cost. I sold them all. The 2 guys that came back the next day each brought a friend with them. I was awarded salesman of the year that year. I love working customer service jobs. I particularly like working gun counters. It is very gratifying to help someone get the right gun for them.

[@hoosierarcher]

Riley Hughes I wish I still worked in a gun shop. I miss it.

[@ricks.1092]

Woolworth's was excellent in the mid 1980's. I was in a Woolworth's in Stamford, CT in 1985. And the Sporting Goods Dept had a crap load of surplus WWII, M-1's and M-1 carbines. I purchased 2 of each and could pick from 100's they had in stock. I still have these firearms to this day.

[@hoosierarcher]

Rick S That's when I worked there. We had a bunch of Lee Enfield both in the original .303 and those rechambered to .308. I bought one of the rechambered ones and it was a tack driver. I sold quite a few surplus rifles.

[@justinbiebs2617]

What is a woolworth?

[@toomanyaccounts]

store chain that i think is extinct now

[@ericv79flh]

I worked at a Gun store and I had no problem saying 'I don't know, but let me find out for you'.

[@jambajoby32]

Appreciate this a lot!

[@danielaramburo7648]

Saying “I don’t know” is the wisest thing you can say. After knowing what you don’t know, you go learn it.

[@jaytree88]

said the same thing and once I found someone to help them that was always more knowledge I gained

[@Puppy_Puppington]

I usually end up teaching the people of the reloading store. When they don’t know which is often does the never even fired firearms

[@jacobmanalang8162]

used to have a guy named terry that worked the counter at a local pawn/gun store. he sold and installed the collapsible stock on my neutered bushmaster ar i bought from there on my 18th birthday back in 04. he was great and friendly, always happy to let me see the guns, tell me about flipping on the rock and roll switch when he was in the service, recommend ammo for my carry and plinking, opened sunday mornings so HE would be the one selling us ammo and targets before we went out to shoot and my favorite part...he ALWAYS carried a COLT 1911. when i asked him why, he said cuz he likes to make a lot of noise hahaha...he passed away a few years ago though. rest in peace.

[@commodorebud]

Although 2 years passed before seeing this comment, God Bless the man.

[@alanmeyers3957]

Terry was a good guy, always glad to see me.

[@Puppy_Puppington]

Sounds like a fun and great man.

[@kebthediabetic]

Kind of late to the party here, but when I was about 19 my friends and I walked into a local gun shop to look around for a bit. My buddy was looking to get his first rifle so we were looking at a few on display, when one of the employees, an older gentleman with a Vietnam veteran hat, asked us if we like guns. We responded respectfully with a pretty resounding yes, and he snapped back at us to say we were wasting our time and his, and that if we loved guns so much we should join the military and serve our country. It was very offputting and caused us to leave without spending anything. Thankfully we found another store close by with very friendly employees, or that likely would have completely ruined our idea of gun shops.

[@paleo704]

Yikes

[@GunSperg]

I don’t know what it is about boomer fudds but they seem to love never selling guns and chasing off customers with literal mentally impaired level interactions lmao. Maybe it was the lead based paint and leaded gasoline back then? Lmfao

[@k13baker]

At the time i was about 18 years old. I recently purchased my first firearm, a Mosin, and I was looking for ammo. I went into a local gun shop. After wandering about for 15-20 minutes I went to the counter and nervously asked if they had any 7.62x54r, the guy says yes. I went back to the table and looked around again. Unable to locate it on the table, i asked again, and all he did was vaguely point at the ammo table. Finally, i was able to speculate that I had found the right ammo, (it was mil-surp paper wrapped with no label) and went to purchase the ammo. He was rude and not helpful at all. That was the last time I went to that shop, and have been recommending against that place since than. I would like to add that this was the shops owner. (Johns in Winchester, NH)

[@MajorArtillary]

I remember the first time I walked into a gun store that wasn't my regular, asking for 7.62x54r ammo. This grimy piece of shit at the counter looked at me and asked what I needed it for. I told him I was taking my buddy out to test out my newly bought SVT-40, and he goes, "we don't sell those kinda guns". I said I don't need the gun, I need the ammo, do you have any? He started showing how disinterested he was and just looked away, then he says, "we don't sell ammo for those kinda guns." I asked him what kinda guns he was talking about, and he muttered something about commie guns. I pointed out that there were 2 AK type rifles on the wall and an SKS on a rack. He then told me I could leave. Before doing so I told him with his shitty attitude, this business will dry up faster than his marriage.

[@woodchuckcider1]

Before doing so I told him with his shitty attitude, this business will dry up faster than his marriage. did you really

[@christopherdean9684]

lmao fucking savage

[@likaboss7654]

Savage

[@blazeboyd2365]

thats a really funny story though

[@nourat0w3l95]

Despite the legitimacy of the story, I’ve dealt with several “know it all, my word is law” shop staff, as well as staff that could care less if they made a sale that day as their $10.50 an hour isn’t earned by making sure I buy their merch. So now I walk into shops, feel the merch and compare for a final decision, then I buy online. They don’t talk back or give me shit lol. Just a better price.

[@bdulude55]

"buck-naked speed" is the greatest term I have ever heard :D

[@Tunkkis]

Especially when pronounced as "butt-nekkid". Always a treat to hear from these guys.

[@jdred1950]

Shortly after receiving my Green Card I went to my local Cabellas for a browse. I noticed the gun counter was not busy so I walked up and explained to the clerk that I had recently received my Green Card. She congratulated me, and then said, "So now you want to buy a gun." I explained that I didn't at the moment, but would be interested to check out some 9mm semi-automatics. She was so very helpful in showing me a RUger LC9S, Shield, Glocks, and a few others. I asked if I could dry them, she agreed. She knew a sale wasn't on the cards, but she was so very helpful I felt guilty after thanking her for time and patience. This to me is how a newbie should be treated in a gun store for the time when able to buy a gun for the first time! Full marks to Cabellas and that clerk Incidentally, I was able to show some degree of knowledge from watching many KZbin videos. Maybe that helped me to ask relevant questions. Great Channel guys!

[@christopherdean9684]

when you said "Green Card" I thought you were talking about a weed licence

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

Trump will deport u. U are not a xitizen u cant buy a gun with green card

[@TylerB-my1kr]

Gsfbffx Pdhhdf a green card is how you become a citizen and yes you can the constitution reckognizes all peoples rights not just ours

[@codingcrusader8275]

My biggest question is what kind of a place did you go to that they wash and dry their guns

[@Sovek86]

That's been my experience at cabella's, it's my second favorite store to go to, next to palmetto State armory,

[@jordanhays732]

I walk into a local gun shop and I was listening and sort of watching these kids 18-20 years of age playing around with a ar15. He pointed the muzzle what I believe to be unintentionally at almost everyone one in the store. The. I walked up to the kids and told them not to be pointing it at anyone. They laughed and pointed it at me. I took it from them and headed up to the sales counter and told the sales representative and they said well it wasn't loaded. I've never been back.

[@andrewrowzee5411]

jordan hays That's fucked up I would be fumming pissed. At the store and teens that is.

[@gregb6469]

What a moron of a clerk!

[@taylorcole2354]

Fuck. That.

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

First, good for you man. Second, about the only thing else to do would be to talk to the manager and proceed to re-train him/her on the basics of firearm safety loudly in front of everyone, so that they all know that the staff are unqualified to even speak about guns. These would be gun owners need to learn this stuff and the sooner the better. I've seen my fair share of ignorance at gun ranges, and if nobody taught them then they don't know any better. It's their responsibility to find out, but when they do seek the knowledge there needs to be grown-ups (any age) to show them the way. So just like safety is everybody's job, so is basic firearm knowledge especially safety and handling issues. It's just ridiculous that you were the only one to even say anything to them and the staff completely enabled them. Obviously they put sales above all else including whether or not one of these kids shoots somebody some day.

[@GoodFella1294]

Should've swung the AR at their heads lol

[@joemamma3288]

That table should be good and clean now.

[@isleofgreg]

joe mamma yeah wtf is up with them constantly swiping the table

[@red08450r]

lmao was thinking the same thing

[@chancepaladin]

OCD hehehe

[@MeestahChuklesOne4]

Must've been one dusty table.

[@taxedtodeath3610]

That floor though! That floor is in need of a video too...

[@cd010897]

Went to a gander mountain one time and told the guy behind the counter I was looking for a red dot for my sbr, he then proceeded to tell me sbr's were illegal and I shouldn't talk about them there lol.

[@John5.56]

Well if he was that misinformed and his reaction was to tell you you should probably keep it on the hush, instead of calling the atf hes cool in my book lmao.

[@alexm566]

@@John5.56 Yup!

[@rollastoney]

Pawn brokers who think they have a $1000 firearm when a good price on it is $500.

[@austinnevitt7922]

Fuzzy Ewok I had a pawn shop that didnt have anyone that knew about guns so they were selling Kimbers and Benelli for 500

[@holidayhouse03]

Or BS you the other way...guy told me he would put my S&W 66 no dash...near mint condition safe queen...with box, papers and cleaning tools...in his case for $400. I told him he'd put it in his pocket before it ever got to the case at that price.

[@losi8ightyew]

Fuzzy Ewok All of my local pawnshops are like that. Beat up glocks for $600(when you can get them for $530 NEW LOL), Eye sore mall ninja'd out DPMS .233 AR's for $1000(who wants to pay extra for someone else's "accessories" anyways?). I even once saw a spray painted SD40VE for $350. Wtf? And pawnshops wonder why theyre going out of business like wildfire?..

[@jameskellum4]

losi8ightyew lol I have the sdve50 I paid 280 new

[@tmreb1]

My pawn local pawn shop has a a rusty Kahr arms Tommy gun that has the stock and fore grip spray painted black and they want 2200 for it

[@TheCrimsonIdol987]

My first gun store experience was when I bought my first pistol, a 1911 .45ACP. The guy was extremely knowledgeable, mentions he carries that very same pistol himself, asked him a few more questions, but I didn't have my updated license with my current address on it, so I had to leave the shop for the day, keep the guns on layaway until the morning. Went back next morning, the guy was working there and my fiance and I walked out with four boxes of ammunition, her .38 special J frame S&W revolver, my 1911, a concealed carry purse for her, and a holster for the 1911. This is what customer service is about. I worked in customer service since I was 17, so it's a big deal to me to have good customer service. To this day, my buddies, fiance, and I only see two guys in that shop, one's an ex detective, the other's a competition shooter, and they're basically walking encyclopedias with amazing customer service. In that same shop, I will never do business with one older gentlemen, whose kind of an ass. He always treated my buddies and I like we were wasting his time, and would always roll his eyes when I asked a question. Like seriously? I treat everyone with respect, but being an ass to me, and acting like helping me out is out of your way when it's your job is something that instantly makes me wanna see someone else. Hence why I recommend only those two salesmen in that shop to my friends and family.

[@calebramey]

I have the knowledge, I lack the funds...

[@brandonburck785]

Caleb Ramey ditto

[@sahhull]

I have some knowledge, I have the funds..... I live in a country that makes firearm ownership difficult, not impossible but incredibly difficult.

[@justinjobes2928]

If you ain’t got the $$$ to play with the expensive you might as well know what the hell your talking about at the counter right? I work at two local pawn shops and we get too many people with too much $ and no idea what the fuck they’re talking about and people that can barely afford a SKS but know the full history, tech specs and what to look for on what they’re buying.

[@arkreb1968]

Same here in most things, being on disability sucks

[@J__C__]

You don't particularly need a lot of funds to get a job selling guns 🤣🤷🏻‍♂️

[@TheRealJeff984]

I love being 18 and going into the different sportsmens stores and having everyone at the gun counter treat me like im a dumb teenager thats only seen guns in video games. Meanwhile im restoring sporterized WWII and other firearms to their original configurations in order to preserve history.

[@173rdUSmilitary]

Haha me and my friends get that alot too! Its kinda annoying to honest.

[@Joshua-hz3cl]

ugh i hate this

[@greenhouse114]

Welcome to the real world where respect must be earned. When I was young, the same disrespect was directed my way by older guys who had been there, done that. Best policy is to educate yourself, stay humble, and offer productive input/assistance over the course of time, as opportunity permits. A few thoughtful words and actions will in time earn respect with some. Keep in mind, though, that with each new person encountered, the process of earning respect begins again. It's a process that never really ends, although with age, it gets easier.

[@rmb0621]

I feel you man, it went the same way when I just bought my first shotgun. everybody thinks you're some dumbass kid.

[@Dick_Gozinya]

I like milsurps, too, and i wouldn't say you're preserving history so much as repairing it. Good job!

[@jimvandemoter6961]

There are two shops on the same road in Kalamazoo Mi that are just nasty. They treat regular customers great but if you are not a regular they won't give you the time of day. I bought my gun at gander mtn. because they treated me well. I want to buy local, but if local shops treat me badly I'll go big box.

[@chriskelly509]

Have a local gun range that is the same way.

[@dingo5208]

Most big boxes are owned by someone local. Just sayin...

[@reillyc7605]

If u are still here 3 yrs later I was wondering what shops? I'm from kalamazoo also

[@poopstain5216]

kevin McHale poopstain is here

[@jesseredfield8194]

Very. Very valid point.

[@ender8038]

I asked a guy behind the counter at a gun shop if the Springfield Armory Saint had a mid length gas system and he said "No it's direct gas impingement."

[@WCGwkf]

Ender lol I'd have a hard time not laughing at him

[@ace29054]

can you explain the difference to me I love to learn more

[@ender8038]

ace29054 www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/9298047-carbine-mid-or-rifle-a-beginner-s-guide-to-ar15-gas-systems Here is the first article I found, but basically the point is that a direct gas impingement AR-15 usually has one of three lengths of gas systems. I already knew it was a direct impingement gun and I wanted to know what length the gas system was, but the guy just proceeded to tell me what I already knew. He didn't know much about the guns he was selling I guess.

[@glassjawdeathclaw4176]

What.....WHAT! Holy bouncy neon Jesus nailed to a flashing cross what is the matter with people these days?

[@TheKristian360]

Ender sa

[@gonzalesrafael22]

Eric and the IV8888 channel has done so much for my perspective on firearms in the past 3 or 4 years. I owe a tremendous amount of gratitude to all your work guys. Was one of those people who called the IV8888 hotline at Moss back in the day and owe many of my firearm purchases to videos on your channel. Including my first purchase of a Glock 21, followed by my Mosin, and the collection continues to grow. Thanks guys.

[@bimmmerworld]

I've worked at a gun shop for almost 9 months now and I have a decent knowledge of firearms simply from growing up around them and being highly interested in them. I will be the first to tell you I don't know everything, and the most important thing I have learned from working in the industry is being able to tell people you don't know something. Being honest is the most important thing and you will be well respected for being honest, rather than lying and making something up. Great video guys!

[@WhoWouldWantThisName]

Yeah, when their precious ego takes priority over you, or anything else, they need to just get out of retail and grow up.

[@beowulfgrendel24]

OK here is my last experience. a lady was looking for her first pistol. the sales rep was showing her the glockenspiel 43. I kept my distance until she was finished looking at it (her complaint was the short grip). once they stopped talking I asked if it was OK for me to look at it. the sales rep let me. I asked if he had a extention or peirce grip. he got one for me. the lady came back and said this feels much better and bought the pistol. Rude SOB tells me I don't need your help selling a pistol? I went elsewhere and bought a xds

[@chriskelly509]

Love my xds 9mm

[@xbillups8322]

Eh I play percussion.

[@John5.56]

I would have told him obviously you did because the conversation was clearly over between you two and you werent ringing her up, while I flipped him the bird and told him there are other gun shops.

[@thIDthIRreenactor]

@@xbillups8322 yea I noticed that to so she wanted a bell set 43 wat

[@poopstain5216]

Probably in austin

[@Farmall450]

Really missing Barry right now.

[@drewpeackoc386]

The American Outdoorsman who is berry? some fruit head looking ass.

[@Farmall450]

filthypranks Old guy that ran the show with Eric who happens to be dead...

[@turbo7162]

Barry?

[@Farmall450]

Jon Smith no way

[@cameronnorton5898]

Jon Smith No... That's impossible.

[@wonderoushistoryofclassicf9193]

A local gun shop/Bait Shop out here gave a customer a loaded hunting rifle (with a round in the freaking chamber) to show him how much it weighed loaded. The customer then forgot it was loaded, thought he was about to dry fire gun and proceeded to fire a round of 30-06 through the back of the store.

[@HellRainsFromAbove]

Last year when I was just getting into firearms and didn't know a thing about guns, especially AR-15's, I was at a gander mountain talking to the guy and he said AR-15's "are the biggest pieces of crap ever created by mankind" But thanks to your videos I've since learned better than that.

[@TheVideoMaker15]

VatsandMentats he must have been an "AK Guy" lol

[@andrewrowzee5411]

VatsandMentats Was he old enough to be Vietnam?

[@nc_classics_9610]

Yep AK neck beard operator

[@vhfgamer]

He would be right. You should have listened.

[@HellRainsFromAbove]

@@vhfgamer no

[@mikebahl4864]

How about being friendly. I have been into many gun stores and all except one act like they are doing you a favor for just talking to you. Oc guns in CA is the best

[@KingLeek86]

I have only had that experience at one shop in particular where I live. Every time I went in there...It always felt like I was bothering them or I was inconveniencing them if I wanted to take a look at a firearm or if I had any questions on the particular firearm.

[@CatholicAmericanDreamer]

Mike Bahl no kidding, there is one store here in Atlanta, that treats you like crap. Been there three times and their staff is horrible. Don't know how they're still in business.

[@bostoncopguy]

Mike Bahl exactly the same in Massachusetts.

[@TheCoolwhipped]

No joke, Cabela's is the only place I have had this NOT happen to me.

[@CatholicAmericanDreamer]

TheCoolwhipped Isn't it ironic, you'd expect to be welcomed with enthusiasm at small shops. Cabelas' staff always been respectful and professional to me.

[@johndavis1312]

I got let go from a gun store for quote "being to energetic and stealing sales from other salesman". the next day got a job at another store haha

[@sgtjacques1]

This reminds me when i went into a gun store and the guy told me that the 7mm Mauser ammo is hard to come by and rare. Went to a different gun store and they had more boxes of it than i could count.

[@WickedDealer]

Sounds to me like that first shop forgot to stock up and the price of shipping was to much for them.

[@pcpolice7937]

Check Now!

[@redtobertshateshandles]

40 years ago the owners son said 7 x 57 was ancient and I should buy a. 243. I've resisted buying a. 243 ever since.

[@joshuaryan6576]

Worst service I've ever had was at the Palmetto State Armory in Greenville SC. Purchased a Psak47 G2. Knew what I wanted so I spent very little time talking the first time. Took it home, dumped 200 rounds. Sights wouldnt hold zero past 5 shots. Took it back. They gave me every excuse under the sun and all these reasons why, or how I could fix it, and one kid even tried to tell me I needed optics and iron sights were useless. Finally after an hour, they got the store manager on the phone, who told the rang manager to test it out. He sighted it in, and sure as shit, after 5 rounds it had lost zero. They gave me another one, ran another 100 there this one and the same problem. Took it back and they sent it off. 2 Months later, after calling EVERY WEEK and getting no info, I go up there and demand to speek to the manager! He comes out and informs me that he was authorized 3 WEEKS EARLIER that he could offer me an upgrade. At this point I was already pissed! So he comes out of the back with a new ak that has all magpul furniture and the stock I wanted, so I start to relax, but my dad convinces new to pop it open first... and there it is. The bolt carrier is seriously deformed. So I told him to bring me another one. Same thing! Deformed bolt carrier. At this point I demand a refund and he refuses. So I demand my rifle with the effed up sights back and he refuses. So at this point I start to call the sheriffs department while my dad googled how to contact the ATF. Before the phone stops ringing he has my cash played out on the counter. I went across the street to cabelas and bought a different ak. Never been happier. Fuck PSA

[@tylerbuchholz3234]

I was selling sporting goods when the NICS debacle debuted; so over 20 yrs ago, internet infancy and pre smart phone. I had for the prior 15 yrs read every Gun magazine I could lay my hands on. I worked in a mostly "FUDD" store. Whenever a customer had a question I didn't know the answer to I was honest and said, "Good question, I don't know, but let me look." Then I would either look in the distributor book, the manufacturer's brochure (which I read and saved a copy of each), look in the owner's manual, ask our in store "Ray", or call the distributor/manufacturer; sometimes I did all of these to find an answer. Just be honest with your customers and if you don't know, just say so, but offer to find out. Also, and this is for you salesmen, when a customer says they're "just looking"....reply with these words....."We encourage touching." It's a great ice breaker and your sales will go up. YWVM.

[@kainhall]

if they have guns in racks out in the aisles...imma pick them up if i think its cool. thought i was a damned mp-44....turned out to be a 22lr blowback....meh never would have known if it didnt pick it up. first thing i did was chamber check.....and that hole was just too small for my tastes. (giggity) and fuck blowback...probably sold it to the gun store because it didnt work right...

[@rocknrollmonkey8668]

One of my favorite lines I used was always, "How's it going today?" "I'm just looking." "Okay, cool. We need to get you moving toward 'just touching', and then on to 'just buying'." Always got a bit of a laugh.

[@bryanjr5745]

For the most part, gun laws in Canada are pretty annoying and non-sensical due to our lawmakers working on "feel good" gun laws and policies, but hey! What a surprise it is that we can get guns shipped to our homes up here!

[@Alloyaha]

Bryan JR lucky!

[@elitetrader5468]

Ah, but what kind of guns?

[@Porty1119]

Elite Trader Most guns.

[@TheCptnZ]

Porty1119 aks?

[@apb2887]

TheCptnZ AK's are a major hell no in Canada. But you can have a VZ58....if that make any sense? I guess it's not as scary looking?

[@247Combat]

I was at the local gun store today, and i overheard a customer ask the clerk for advice on a new handgun. When he asked about the glock, the clerk told him that he wouldnt recommend that gun because it is a complicated gun to work on and take apart. I couldnt help myself but jump it and tell him that the glock is world renowned for its simplicity. And im not a glock fanboy but come on, just tell the guy you dont like glocks but dont say dumb shit like that lol

[@DerpyTurtle0762]

I constantly hear people say that they don't like GLOCK's just because... *DRUM ROLL* IT LOOKS TO BOX LIKE, THE SLIDE IS AN UGLY SQUARE It is SO annoying

[@LiteralCrimeRave]

@@DerpyTurtle0762 They sure aren't pretty guns.

[@sahmadi1000]

Thank you for discussing such an important topic. I was trying to purchase a M1 Garand from a gun shop. The men behind the counter knew nothing about it. He wanted me to come back when the owner was back because only owner knew about it. I wish These owners write a page on each gun and leave it with the gun when they put the gun for sale.

[@Fafafohi]

In fairness, at least they were honest about it. But I totally see your point! You should know your trade and inventory.

[@robertbogan225]

Go in and say something like "my ar 15 bolt won't stay open how do I fix it!? I can't put the gun down without the bolt closing!?" If they tell you to replace ANYTHING on your gun they know nothing. I went to quite a few gun forums saying replace the bolt catch yadda yadda blah blah and finally one person is like "that's just how it works. Nothing is wrong with the gun"

[@dingo5208]

Yeah there is. The bolt should remain open when layed down. Recruits have been laying their guns down bolt open for decades.

[@kanaka118446]

@@dingo5208 could have been setting the gun down on the left side (with the help of gravity) where the bolt release is. Just a thought

[@bradg2069]

Gander Mt. I was there one time, and a guy was looking to buy an AR. The first thing the salesman pulled out was a Sig MCX. I was thinking... That's A) Not an AR. B) That's not what I would start out with, because it's a niche gun and also very expensive. After eavesdropping for a bit, I found that he literally had no idea that the SIG was not an AR-15. His selling point, was that the Sig didn't have the tube on the end, which made it shorter. It was the last time I ever went to the gun counter at Gander Mountain.

[@galvanizeddreamer2051]

Where was the store?

[@captmoa]

Unfortunate. I've had good experience with GM in Pensacola.

[@bradg2069]

North Little Rock. I've seen this with other big box gun stores such as bass pro, dicks, and wally world. This was just what came to mind.

[@raymundocastillo9933]

Llewelyn Moss I've actually had pretty good experiences with big box stores in the Dallas/Fort Worth area except for Gander Mountain. I shit you not they had a used glock for sale for 700. When I asked why it was 700 the salesman proceeded to tell me "Well if it's used you know it works" lmao I don't pay extra for a used car over a new one because I "know it works"

[@bradg2069]

Raymundo Castillo.... That's amazing, I've noticed that they've had high prices on used guns in the past.

[@Steve_MP5]

I've experienced salesmen in a busy shop that if you ask hen for help or a question get all pissy like you are inconveniencing them. Then they try to rush and half ass and talk down to you. Really chaps my ass.

[@WCGwkf]

I've experienced the same in a non busy shop. There's one here locally that doesn't have many good reviews.

[@WCGwkf]

***** thats exactly how it is at the one i was talking about. I went in once ready to buy and once you tell them you want something for cash today they are all over you and will show you the entire showcase. just say youre browsing and they could give a fuck about you. next time I go in even if I'm browsing ill tell them im a cash buyer today but only buy if they offer something I can't refuse thay way youre not lying.

[@trentrubenacker9718]

@@WCGwkf I bet they get a lot of browsers. I browse every new gunstore I see. Don't try to talk to the clerk unless I'm trying to buy tho. Usually get a box of ammo or something. Feels wierd walking around a gun store for 20 minutes gawking at everything and then walking out without buying anything. I can always use another box of ammo for something.

[@not-a-social-program6218]

I recently started dating a young lady that has never shot and now is going through my ammo by the thousands after taking my (g43, shield PC, airweight .38, and g27) to the range she decided on the shield! We picked her up a Performace center ($405) two days later a gun store employee made her cry explaining that a Performace center shield was junk and she should own a Glock. (F U fanboys) after making her first purchase and really getting excited she now feels uncomfortable and won’t go to a gun shop without me. It really upsets me to think of all the women ran away from this great sport by A$$holes who want to look smart and cool in front of a good looking girl. I won’t mention the name because the owner fired the employee when I went to raise hell. (I am one of those shop flies so they knew it was bad when I was upset) thanks for the vids and to anyone working a counter please don’t be insulting or try to flirt with girls they r trying to get into the sport so lets make them comfortable and not feel like they r getting hit on at a bar!

[@jeremyray6292]

Similar thing happened to my wife(gf at the time) we shot a bunch of different guns to find the one for her,(my PC shield, lc9s, g42, g26, pt709, TCP, LCP, bodyguard) and the one she liked the most was a ruger lc9s. The guy at the store told her having an external safety on a carry gun is dumb and she should at least get the lc9s pro since it has no safety, but that she should get a glock 42 because 9mm is too strong for a woman and glock is much better than ruger. However, she's a strong willed woman who knew what she wanted and she wanted the external safety, she didn't like the way the glock 43 fit her hand, and she raised hell with the manager because that kid had the audacity to tell her a 9mm was too powerful for a woman. Well, she got a hell of a deal on her lc9s package; an extra mag, a box of critical defense, a free range pass, free ear muffs, and they gave her a free sticky holster. Lmao

[@GatCat]

Not-A-Social-Program made her cry with an opinion? Lol 😂 how stupid. Each adult is responsible for their decisions. Influenced by others indeed, however influenced, not researched or vetted? Come on.

[@badoobles]

@@GatCat I'd imagine there was more that went into it then hen just politely saying "I would recommend a glock over the shield". I personally think someone being an asshole isn't something to cry over, but I'd imagine he was probably being a judgemental "oh high and mighty I know more than you" asshole about it. Otherwise he wouldn't have been fired for what he did.

[@buttzkrieg3919]

Glocks are great

[@DerpyTurtle0762]

Hi, I REALLY love GLOCK's... I also love MANY other handguns. Not ALL GLOCK lovers are 'GLOCK only' A-holes.

[@CJoksch]

My first bit of advice that I give anyone looking into guns is, get a Hornady reloading manual. Not so much for reloading, but for reading about different caliber and how they came to be. I picked Hornady because it has more calibers listed and great little backgrounds on the calibers. I also like mil-surp, therefore I point people to you guys and C&Rsenal.

[@anon_79]

does anyone know where I can find some .22 primers?

[@j.a.6866]

Jonly Bonly Or an AK-15?

[@Mr.Smith101]

Jonly Bonly Yes, they are over by the glock "clips".

[@thurin84]

yeah meijer has them. right next to the blinker fluid.........

[@thatguy4242]

Next to those shoulder things that go up

[@ragefuel3d]

for a .22 hornet?

[@CheckFlop]

Gun gripe: anyone selling a Mosin Nagant over $200. The butchered one in the corner reminded me of that.

[@CheckFlop]

But def agree with the annoying customer butting lines. I'm okay with waiting my turn. I like to fog up the glass anyways before I ask anything.

[@andymanusafa]

Man it's rough. I can't find any for less than $275

[@vexrich]

$770 now is the lowest price on gundeals...

[@bornwildtv1317]

You can't teach "give-a-fcuk", some people care and others will never know why they should. Nice vid guys 👍

[@mRoMuS]

Thank you fellas... for the appreciation, i work at a range/gun store out here in van guys CALIFORNIA. And yes our gun rites or laws are ...?? but we deal with it as best we can. y'all are some way cool guys... THANKS

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

I heard a salesman tell a first time gun buyer that was interested in buying a Glock 19 that the Glock was a very ammo sensitive handgun and they have many problems with them. He then suggested looking at rugers and m&p's. Now if he was suggesting buying American I get it, but what he was saying was false and if it were true that would mean the company he works for sells products that are poor quality. He then made his way toward me and ask if I needed help and I said nope just looking and proceeded to buy a Glock from the next salesman would asked to assist me. I'm no Glock fanboy, but one thing they are not is unreliable and ammo sensitive. Well maybe the g42 lol. I informed my salesman about what the other guy was telling people and he said he already told him to stop saying that to people because it was totally false and he was going to beat him lol. Just proves idiots and assholes can get any job, even selling guns

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

Wooly Bully every company passes a lemon every now and then, even Glock. I've had a Ruger sr45 that was nothing but trouble. I've had a Springfield Xd and gi 1911, both that were problematic that Springfield fixed. Glock has always worked for me, as well as s&w, sig, Hk, Walther, and Cz. But if you search hard enough and shoot enough you will see all the companies pass lemons through sometimes. I hope your problem gets fixed with your g17c because that truly is a great gun, if you get it running correctly

[@bludmakesgrassgrow]

Jeremy Jones I shoot tula and a variety of hollow points in my G42, runs great!

[@protectiverailroaddad7541]

bludmakesgrassgrow I don't doubt it, Glock makes a good gun. There are more than a few reports of 42's hanging up on hollow point though.

[@BadShot10]

We have Glock rentals at the shooting range I work at. All of them have over 15 some 20,000+ rounds. The only thing I have ever replaced is a trigger spring. The only time they jam is because of user error. When they stove pipe, you're limp wristing. We have all gen 3 glocks manufactured in 2011 and are still shooting to this day. I have never seen a bad glock come through our store or shooting range. I am also not saying that glock hasn't produced a lemon. I just haven't seen one.

[@BadShot10]

Our 9mm glocks probably have 40,000+ rounds

[@lucky43113]

i reported a guy who was working the gun counter at walmart. A guy and his kid wanted a singleshot .410 to learn to shoot with and the buyer asks what ammo does it shoot worker says what ever will fit and tried to sell him some rifle ammo. I ran to customer service and told them I never saw him again

[@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043]

lucky43113 it was 45 colt he was giving him

[@TylerB-my1kr]

Yea a 410 will generally shoot whatever fits although I wouldn’t fire 45 79 out of it

[@filianablanxart8305]

Some ".410 " are specifically chambered for .45 Colt/ .410 .

[@DirtRider500R]

I have a story that somewhat pertains to this topic. Last week I was up at Dunhams picking up a piece of glass for my 870 deer gun (got a 3x9x50 if anyone is curious). A customer was at the counter asking about 12 ga shotguns; he was looking to deer and goose hunt. Guy behind the counter was damn near useless, pointing to mossberg 500s in 20ga, and a few random break action 410s, saying "they would be just fine for his purposes." After listening to 10 minutes of the shenanigans I stepped in, told the customer about the R870, M500, as well as an 11-87. Eventually 'sold' him a camo 11-87 that came with a slug barrel. Guy behind the counter was speechless.

[@speedyjr11]

As a person who is in the process of getting an online store going and having a shop one day, This video is the best thing for me. Thanks Guys!!!!!

[@bluecat3403]

You guys are one of my favorite KZbinrs but as a military surplus man, that little green Mosin hurts me in a place I didn't know existed.... Keep up the great work!

[@Puppy_Puppington]

Oh, come on man they made like millions of them. What’s one little mosin converted to tacticool 😂

[@QuesarRider]

One of the Salesmen at PSA had never heard of .300 savage and he told me i must want a .300 caliber gun made by savage. I tried to tell him but he wouldnt believe that .300 savage existed.

[@usMarinecuv902]

I remember when I was 15 I bought my first rifle an M1. I asked the guy at the gun shop if they had any 30-06 for the M1. he said that there wasn't any box of ammo that said M1 Garand on it. he was being an ass and made it sound like I was some kid that didn't know what I was talking about. 5 minutes later I slapped two boxes of Federal 30-06 on the counter that said For the M1 Garand with a picture of an M1 right on it. I didn't say anything about it to him, but it sure felt good.

[@germanguppy92]

FutureMarinecuv902 you bought your first rifle at 15? Pretty sure that's against the law everywhere, even for private sales, and has been for quite awhile now. And if you bought ammo at 15, well that's been against the law for quite awhile now too. But they haven't been making Garand-branded ammo that long. The only one that does is Federal. So you must be pretty young. So either you're lying, or you're a criminal. Which is it?

[@germanguppy92]

noodle I thought about that, but, named "futuremarine"? and in conjunction with the rest of the comment, don't think so

[@usMarinecuv902]

Potato_Ohle I happen to have parents that are over 18

[@usMarinecuv902]

Potato_Ohle so, I paid for the rifle, but my parents are the ones who legally bought it.

[@1125galahaddr]

FutureMarinecuv902 you just admitted to a strawman sale on the internet. The stupidity.

[@rickyfoley4294]

I've had a gun salesman at Bass Pro try to convince my girlfriend that she needs to get a left handed holster and put it at the 4:00 position and he was adamant about it... I overheard him, I looked at her and said 'don't do that' as I laughed.

[@LeaDz0rmobile]

"They are always looong" - yep, that is because it's gooooooood Don't stop with that, I personally wouldn't like a 5 min gun gripe and I am probably not alone in thinking that. :) Great vid as always!

[@cgirl111]

In the age of search engines why would somebody go to a salesman for information?

[@kanaka118446]

Because if you type "should I buy an AR-15" into google, you get an article saying "The AR-15 Assault Rifle, the weapon of mass shootings..." yadda yadda, something to that effect. Search engines and companies running them are just as bad as the damn MSM

[@colebowman2833]

Because it's a real human that can actually answer your questions. Ask Google a nuanced question about guns and see how that works out. Lol

[@colebowman2833]

Because it's a real human that can actually answer your questions. Ask Google a nuanced question about guns and see how that works out. Lol

[@poopstain5216]

Stfu

[@elizabethhardzog2894]

Well, They do have the keys to the case. If you don't have a range that rents that particular make and model, you'll definitely want to know if it fits your hand. If it doesn't fit, there goes your research...unless you're a collector, then enjoy.

[@craigg175]

I remember when I went to buy my first gun I went into a store in the middle of nowhere (somewhere around Gainesville, FL) and went to buy a hunting rifle. Told the salesman that I was looking for a rifle to go deer hunting with my uncle and the bastard sold me a .22 LR bolt action.

[@chriskelly509]

Lol ur uncle should have helped u. Or pointed u in the right direction.

[@TheWandOfOrcus]

Are you guys still working at Moss? Miss the store tours :(

[@domenik8339]

Lazerrus Laslonin Probably best for us they aren't working at Moss anymore. They're no longer focused on showing and selling as they are the firearm community, various guns and their disadvantages, more focus on us rather than money.

[@Farmall450]

Aren't they in moss now? Figured that was the basement or something.

[@doyouhavegainsonyourphone4507]

The American Outdoorsman Eric's gun room

[@domenik8339]

Tacoma What an amazing American economy we have where producing videos as a hobby pays more than a salaried profession oriented job.

[@nunyabiznis817]

+Domenik _ Retail (even gun retail) isn't really a "profession" nor is it high paying. Retail is best for 2nd job part time income.

[@PharkDysics]

Before I bought my first firearm, I learned how to shoot years prior and had shot multiple different handguns and a couple of rifles but when it came time for me to buy my first firearm (beginning of 2022) I went into one of my local gun shops and told the guy that this was going to be my first firearm and I was going to use it primarily for home defense possibly concealed carry when I got my CCW permit and I wanted to educate myself a little more on hand guns brands and calibers etc. he immediately laughed in my face and said “we see you Covid newbies all the time” and then proceeded to pull out some different handguns. I felt very uncomfortable the second he said that because I was just trying to be polite and get educated. I brushed off the comment and proceeded to inspect the firearms, I asked him if I could pick one up to get the feel of it and he nodded so I used the proper grip, trigger discipline etc and he scoffed and made another snark comment something like “well look at that, the Covid buyer knows how to properly hold a handgun” again I brushed it off and told him I’ve shot multiple different firearms before but just never owned one. After a while of him pretty much belittling me and me looking at different handguns I told him which ones I liked and then I asked him which one of the 3 that I chose would he recommend for home defense? He immediately laughed and said “none of them” then he grabbed the most expensive Daniel Defense AR he could find and said “this is what you want for home defense buddy.” I ended up buying one of the 3 handguns I liked (HK VP9) which at the time they were having a good deal on bc I knew how expensive they normally sell for. I love my handgun and have since purchased other firearms from other stores that I like and have amazing employees but I refuse to go back to the gun store after that first interaction with that guy. I was new to the gun ownership community and I went in there just trying to learn and understand more about firearms and he was insanely disrespectful in every aspect.

[@zarvelda9679]

I work for my uncle on and off and he owns a pawn shop. I memorize every gun that comes through. And sometimes we get a new gun in and my coworkers put it out maybe 20 minutes before I get to work. It happens, but I recommend memorizing your stock. It helps tremendously, but also it helps to be a gun nut!!

[@AndrewAttard78]

In my area the gun shop guys are like used car salesmen. I do research and know what I want to buy based on lots of good information. These guys are condescending and tell me that I'm wrong and I need to buy the gun that they have in stock instead of the special order I want. They must work on commission or something.

[@iceandhotwax]

My cousin wanted to reload for his 270, and he bought some powder from a long standing shop, the owner sent him home with winchester 231, which blew the savage 110 to bits. It is a miracle that no one was really seriously injured.

[@Puppy_Puppington]

And the situation isn’t the store being liable right? When you buy from a gun store or reloading shop. There’s usually a clause and a no refunds on stuff like that and I think it states that the person should know themselves but it’s ridiculous like I feel like at that point the store owner should be liable or whoever was that sent him home with that

[@lucky43113]

cabelas salesman told me why there used guns cost more than a new one. With a new gun according to him you must shoot 1000 rounds as fast as possible do not aim just shoot if you only shoot 300rd and go home you must start over do not let the barrel cool down.The type of gun does not matter he said all guns. I told him i would buy the used glock if i could see the odometer to see it was fired 1000 times he got mad and walked away

[@raymundocastillo9933]

lucky43113 I've actually had pretty good experiences with big box stores except for Gander Mountain. I shit you not they had a used glock for sale for 700. When I asked why it was 700 the salesman proceeded to tell me "Well if it's used you know it works" lmao I don't pay extra for a used car over a new one because I "know it works"

[@lucky43113]

lol cabelas reason for the high price was ....look at all the money you will save by not having to buy that 1000 rds

[@WCGwkf]

lmao what a fucking joke. but yes their used guns cost the same as new ones here. they could care less about giving you a good deal. I almost bought a used 22 but then went to a local place and got the same one new but for less

[@thurin84]

OMFG?!?!?!?!?

[@fishman80]

cabelas is dumb as fuck. salesman was selling a guy a shotgun and im in line waiting hes telling the guy you cant shoot slugs through it. I was like im outta here....

[@montanamountainmen6104]

I have fun with gun salesmen I walk in and say , " I hate Glock and the punny 9 mm" then I just see the salesmen's jaws drop.

[@Kreaper1991]

I still remember my first gun purchase, I went in asked if I could see a M1A1 rifle, guy behind the counter corrects me and tells me that civilians can't own said rifle. doesn't offer to show me any ARs I go to the next salesman and he asks what do you want the gun for. I tell him home defense. I now own a pump action 12g. I think to myself now 7 years later, this shop missed out on a $500-2000 sale for a $350 sale. it's a shame.

[@callhoonrepublican]

"If the .40 offered any benifits over the 9mm the US Army would use it."

[@dc-ir3ow]

Not true. And yes I was in the army . The armys benefits as you say Is price point for the most part . Not to say 40 is better or 9 is better. My point is you cant base this decision on what the military buys.

[@bigredone1030]

@@dc-ir3ow Plus women and womanly men cant shoot anything other than 9 mil

[@cardboard_shaft]

@@bigredone1030 AMEN BROTHER I ONLY CARRY MY 1911 FORTY FIVE ACP GODS CALIBER...................................................... IF YOU SHOOT ANY OTHER CALIBER YOURE A DUMB MINORITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SUBARCTICPSYCHO]

@@cardboard_shaft .45 ACP is for effeminate males. The mighty and magnificent 10mm Auto is the caliber choice for real men.

[@trentrubenacker9718]

@@SUBARCTICPSYCHO Don't be a pussy. CCW an obrez.

[@OneCreate.]

When I go in to a gun store I like to look around and see what that store has to offer for sale weapon wise. I like Glock's, Kimber's and Daniel Defense rifles. If I find something I like I speak to a customer service sales person. I don't like the gun stores who rush you to buy a weapon of any kind of size and shape. I also don't like sales pitching or walking off cause I didn't buy that type of gun or rifle at that very instant point of time. I like the customer service staff who takes their time with the customer who is wanting to buy a weapon of any kind and talk to them about it and see what they recommend. My father served 22 1/2 years in USMC and he has weapons background and I know my weapons myself. I do see other customers that go in the store I am at and their rushed in at the counter and buying something that is too powerful for a starting weapon choice for them. Just my two cents. - Jamie

[@stacybrown3714]

I think may have sold more ccw pistols at Cabela's than any of their employees!

[@pointly]

I want to work for a gun shop but none are hiring around here. So I work at Home Depot and I love helping customers. One thing I hate about gun shops is most of the employees are seniors that see a young male like me walk in and they roll their eyes and blow me off because I'm interested in AKs and military surplus. I hate going into a gun shop that is mom & pop and they have their kids running the counter and they don't know shit about their product and they refuse to carry black rifles or semiautomatic pistols, and the old man that owns the shop treats me like I'm a pest. He will be nice and polite to a man closer to his age but to someone who is under the age of 50, and I'm 26, he could care less. I will throw Marburgers in Seabrook,TX under the bus because that is the only gun shop that has treated me like that. Thankfully a gun shop opened up down the street called Lock and Loaded in Seabrook, TX and I will support them for having the absolute best customer service in the city and surrounding cities. If you in the Gulf Coast region of Texas between Galveston and Houston, I encourage you to see them.

[@aluminumbeluga]

I can vouch, locked and loaded in Seabrook is a nice place. (I bought one gun from there)

[@b0lbi]

this is so true. i have reached the point where i order almost everything online. its cheaper and i dont have to deal with these problems and i think this is why the online market has grown so large

[@reescrew7]

100% right on about answering questions for people who see you as having knowledge. I've sold a number of guns for Cabela's just because I was the only person with the knowledge about specific guns and the counter guys had no clue. Then comes the next guy in line knowing you don't work there, but not caring because he saw you provide great service short of handling the gun. Walmart is the worse, because they know Jack crap about firearms and would like nothing to do with them! Insert eat plugs, then get in and get the hell out!

[@Akhi11eus]

this is one of the better gun gripes that i can remember (since Barry of course). There was this odd part where i was watching a customer service class, but hey great video haha.

[@8-7-styx94]

I walked into a gun & pawn shop not too long ago. I was looking for a pistol, something in .380 or 9 mm, I went up to the counters and noticed a handful of Beretta pistols. I figured, my uncle used one as a sheriff for many years and it saved his life on numerous occasions. So I may as well hold one and see what it was like. While waiting for a clerk I was browsing my phone to see what prices were like online and noticed they were substantially cheaper, about 3-400 dollars less. When the clerk finally came over he saw me browsing my phone and said something to the effect of, Can't beat our prices anywhere else can yah? I showed him the listing on classic firearms that was about 369 for one of the pistols that was in front of me (which the store wanted 800 for). He remarked at it and said, ' well that's the used price but those were older inferior models to these new ones.' I blinked for a few times in disbelief and asked the clerk kindly if he knew what the difference was and he didn't know. I walked out shortly thereafter. If he didn't know what the actual difference was, he shouldn't have made a claim that one was 'inferior' to the other, he should have just asked somebody who knew a bit more.

[@johndoe3johndoe382]

Anyone with the name “ray” is always the man. Ray is the type of man you want to be best friends with. Any question at all, ray’s going to know it because he has already been there. Rays the man behind the fence on home improvement so to speak.

[@captianzanzey]

I'll never go to a big box store to buy a gun again. I went to a local cabelas knowing I either wanted a 92fs, 226, or a walther ppq. I looked at a west German 226, it was like $600, then the guy asks me what I'm going to use it for, I tell him target, home defense, and maybe to carry, then he says, no, this gun is too big for you. Went to a small store and picked up a ppq.

[@TheCoolwhipped]

for $600 I would have said "too bad, I want it anyway"

[@captianzanzey]

TheCoolwhipped If I had more money I would have gotten it for sure.

[@MichaelF1]

Cabela's prices are silly anyway. Cabela's doesn't need your money....they exist and profit off or local/federal subsidy. Anything they sell is just extra bread on the table. Look at things @ Cabela's...Buy it from KY Gun Co or a local dealer with reasonable prices

[@jacobmanalang8162]

if i could find a damn west german 226 for 600 bucks i have cash in HAND right now. thats actually what im looking for. i just havent found any locally...especially when i have the cash

[@markatkins9587]

captainzanzey well hey don't know how he said it but maybe he was talking about concealability

[@johnsykora439]

Episode 120, and it all started with a call to HiPoint on shaking ammunition....... miss you Barry

[@mg556linked]

I was at the local big box outdoor store. The one with racks of used long guns that customers are able to handle. I noticed an AR with an AK magazine well. I rotated the rifle (the barrel's still vertically oriented) in the rack, to see the rest of the receiver and determine if I was looking at an AK47 mutant or one of the modular MGI receivers. I had never seen an MGI lower in the wild. About then, some grouchy old bastard walks by and barks at me, "you gotta pull it back!" I said, "excuse me, sir?" As I turn to face him, I notice this isn't some emotionally disturbed person, who just randomly barks orders at strangers, but a sales associate. He's says, "you have to check if it's loaded?" I said, "says who?" I'm halfway joking with him, but giving him the opportunity to explain himself. At this point, he mutters something (presumably rude) under his breath and storms off. I'm standing there, trying to figure out which safety rule this clown thinks I had violated. Then I realize, this isn't the first time I had dealt with this guy. A few years early, I had asked the same guy to direct me toward the lens cleaning section. Apparently, he heard, 'I need some course grit lapping compound and a steel wool pad to wreck my scope'. Rather than directing me to lens cleaning products, doing his job and making sales, he goes into a lecture about how you should never clean optics because you'll remove the expensive coatings. I assure him, I understand cleaning a lens is a rare and delicate thing, but that there are lens brushes, clothes and disposable wipes, marketed by companies like Vortex and Leupold, so that in the even a lens must be cleaned the least damage is done to to said coatings. He swears up and down that such a product has never existed and that only a fool would use them if they did exist, then walks away. Apparently, this mean old fudd just trashes his glass if it gets a fleck of mud in the objective, rather than ruin the coatings by carefully cleaning off the mud. So, I found a younger more polite associate, who was selling binoculars, posed the same original question and he pointed me in the direction of the products. I'm not special and I've gotten the treatment from this old grouch twice, so I assume this is his regular demeanor. Sometimes you just bump into folks with personality disorders. Though it boggles the mind that this weirdo is working in sales and customer service.

[@Mysticfox-wk2be]

One of the local shops has been a big help in finding a pistol for me. I originally was looking at a PX4 in 9mm for home defense and range use. After a few trips to one of the gun shops one of the workers introduced me to the m&p Shield 9mm with thumb safety. Fits my hands much better with the smaller frame and single stack magazine.

[@qk-tb2df]

good for you man, hope it treats you well I'm thinking about getting an LCP or shield for concealed carry in the summer, will be rolling g19/17 in winter though, and when I can carry it

[@UpspoonOneTwo]

i would have no problem with these videos being an hour long. You guys are always carrying on about how long the video is. Make em longer! the more info the better! I've learned unimaginable amounts frmo you guys already, I can't wait to see what i'll learn next. Its Proper. Keep em coming.

[@kyeraff]

"Like a footballbat, let me get that footballbat!"

[@silverrider918]

So hard biting my tongue in a shop when I hear the gun shop guy misinforming or giving bad info to a customer. But if you cut in, you are forever known as THAT guy. Feel like setting up a reeducation table in front of the store and catch them as they leave lol.

[@Royal_Vengeance]

I love that you can actually apply all those tips and tricks to any retail job. And someone who understands the importance of customer service gets my utmost respect. Big hats-off here for both of you guys. Really enjoying your content ! *Liked*

[@mr_evil_overlord5]

I’ve had good and bad experiences at gun stores. The big box stores have been terrible and the old guy behind the counter knew nothing. Meanwhile the mom and pop store had the best young salesperson who was a shooter. I like talking to people that actually shoot guns, build them, and can talk to someone who shoots a lot.

[@ThatBethesdaGuy]

Clerks at my store just act like I'm invisible.

[@PennsylvaniaPlinker]

I've found that the least amount of help you'll receive when buying a firearm is at a gun show.

[@raymundocastillo9933]

hollowpointkid True but I think it's just because of how busy they are. When I go to a gun show to buy a gun that day, I've already done my homework and I'm just looking for the cheapest price. I've met some really cool people at gun shows though especially the old timers.

[@PennsylvaniaPlinker]

Raymundo Castillo yeah without a doubt that's the reason.

[@scorpionf1504]

hollowpointkid Was at a show and a guy walked up W/a Beretta marked 7.65 Browning. Seller said idk. I said, it's a 32acp. That's what they call it in Europe. Seller still said idk. Customer walked away with no ammo. 😢

[@chriskelly509]

Whenever I'm at a gun show majority of the people selling guns I feel like are just displaying their Personal Collection and asking for a ridiculously high prices and hoping some idiot buys one of their over price items

[@dustinmartinez7388]

could you guys make a video of some wildcat rounds like .277 wolverine, .22tcmr, 7mm-08, and 22-250?

[@FasterGun]

This video needs to be shown to every gun store employee. All gun shops should be friendly to the 2nd Ammendment.

[@dakistle]

Another great video. When I lived in Atlanta I stopped by the shop after watching some of the older gun gripes.....Ray was able to answer my questions about all kinds of stuff. When I asked about a rolling block he knew there were none in inventory but quickly showed me a cool falling block. Cool dude for sure.

[@240pixel]

The table is really really clean by the end of the video! :D

[@J__C__]

As a salesman, I've ran out to the parking lot to chase a customer down because we had just searched the store for a specific item and didn't find it. Soon as they walk out and get to the car, I see it. I know they didn't want to have to go somewhere else. No one ever does. Plus I didn't want to miss the sell lol. So I ran to the car and told em "I found it! Come on back in. Well take care of you." The guy came in and spent like 4x the cost of that single thing. Bought all kinds of stuff. And I actually felt satisfaction after that. Almost the same feeling you get when you figure out what's wrong with something and fix it yourself.

[@Thriving257]

I once went into a gun shop just browsing around and found a sweet little mosin 91/30, so I asked the guy at the counter to check it out(matching numbers, bore, production year and ect. The clerk I started talking about polishing bolt and what not then he said "Did you know you can adjust the trigger?" I said "adjust the trigger?" then he proceeded to tell me that the flathead "screw" on the back of the bolt adjusts the trigger. After I corrected him and was told I was incorrect I left immediately. lol

[@davidengland7668]

At Gander Mountain I was told a scar 17 S was pretty much an AR 15 and that the parts were interchangeable.if he was me he would buy the panther arms rifle lower and scar upper it would be cheaper on me I almost died laughing and told him maybe he should read up on his knowledge because some of the information was wrong and I was asked to leave LOL 😂

[@shrump87]

I once put a box of Armscor 10mm 180gr on a counter (having never fired armscor ammo prior) and asked the salesmen how "hot" those rounds were. He stared blankly at me for a second and said "hmm?" I stared blankly back and said, ok how "powerful" are they? He showed me the side of the box and said "Well, it says 180gr, that sounds pretty powerful to me" I looked back confused and sourly because just a few minutes back he was bragging to some other salesman about how many 1911's he owns. I gently slid the box towards him an inch and walked out. That one always gets to me.

[@binkymagnus]

most salespeople know very very little about the products they're selling. It's a job to them. My all-time favorite experience: I was test driving a car (automagic transmission) and asked the salesperson, "the transmission, how many gears?" They just froze, looked at me, and then pointed at the gear selector without saying a word.

[@benjaminmoran315]

About a year ago I was looking to get me a series 70 colt in stainless. The one gun shop in town (out of four) that smelled colts hadn't had any in a while. So I called a few gun shops to see if they could get any from their distributor. One guy told me that they stopped making those 20 years ago and they were never made in stainless.... he clearly had no idea that colt reintroduced the series 70 like 5 years ago. In fact he thought that cold went out of business... colt did declare bankruptcy but they crawled out pretty unscathed and they're doing just fine...

[@AllTheBeef]

iraqveteran: you can't have guns shipped directly to your door me: *laughs in 80% lower*

[@TheWandOfOrcus]

You also need to look out for brand fan boy salesmen.

[@howell093069]

I love to go and look at shops and put gun in hand when something new comes out and so many times I have been so much more knowledgeable then the sales person and have on many occasions found myself helping other customers. I actually like doing that. :)

[@airbomb34]

the worst part about gun stores is the varying service. For example 99% of the time either its great service or awful service and no in between. The experience varies so much and for such few businesses it really can turn off people entirely from firearms when they find those awful stores.

[@nozzerjuice]

I want to work at a gun shop but I'm only 20

[@WCDL]

I've had a woman almost sell my dad .357 SIG for his .357 Magnum revolver. I acted so fast to intervene, then she tried to sell a box of limited edition John Wayne ammo for $50.

[@dylanrobertson1699]

KZbin person no sir imma say if you try 357 sig in a 357 magnum it won’t even fit as the sig is short and fat and the mag is long and skinny and if you somehow were to get a mag into a sig it might damage your barrel or blow up I’m not to sure tho

[@brodywood9554]

Rip Barry

[@VicVergalito]

As a new(er) gun owner, I spoke to several different shops before buying from one the first time and have been loyal to the place since...the shop I bought from is about an hour and a half from me. Why I chose them? They don't mind shooting the shit with you about anything while you wait, aren't intimidating or pushing you towards something you don't want..and most of all are FAIR and honest. If they don't know something they admit it and try to find someone who knows, and they have input or opinions on things they've got experience with and love to hear others opinions. The one guy I always deal with there even recommended ranges and gear to me because I mentioned I was interested in joining a range....Anyway, great video guys, you just about hit every nail on the head when it comes to retail as a whole

[@lessargent2582]

I must have watched 20 videos- including yours- before I purchased my S&W FPC, When I picked it up at my FFL I had to tell them what it was. I didn't think anything about it because it's brand new and most people had not seen one at that point in time. It was kind of fun to let them pick my brain and let them look it over.

[@nox_chan]

Liberals that work at a local sporting goods Store were doing their best to keep me from buying an Ak recently

[@osamaismymama7907]

I decided to see the guns Walmart sells and no one at the counter had ever fired a gun before

[@1yehny]

Don’t buy from Dick’s or Field and Stream. They actually lobby Congress against the 2A!

[@filianablanxart8305]

Actually ran across a WM Dept manager that was highly knowledgeable about guns And hunting . A female manager no less to bust the sterotypes . Alas , this was one person, at a store in neighboring state ( but still within my usual stamping grounds ) , about 15yrs ago .