Japanese Jiu Jitsu VS Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Whats the difference?

[@lemmingsinsight89]

Not trying to be disrespectful but you're completely wrong about Kano not wanting foreigners to learn Jiu Jitsu/Judo. In fact, that was Kano's sole intention when he sent Judo players overseas in the early 1900's. Jigoro Kano wanted the westerners to learn Judo as a form of gratitude for how friendly the western world was towards Japan. Kano first sent out Yoshiaki Yamashita to the United States to teach judo to President Roosevelt and other Americans around 1902. Others went to England and several more ended up in South America/Brazil. The Jujitsu players that went to England and opened up an academy in London were direct students of Mataemon Tanabe and Yataro Handa. They were Yukio Tani and Taro Miyake. Tanabe was known for pulling guard against Kodokan Judokas when there were matches held at the Dai Nippon Butokukai in the 1890's. The Gracies were not the only students of Maeda. There were several others before them. What you hear is just BJJ propaganda about how the Japanese never wanted to share and teach their art of Jiu Jitsu. The Gracies tell it like it's some ancient Samurai art that was only taught to the Gracies because Gastao Gracie helped Mitsuyo Maeda with Japanese immigration to Brazil. That's partially true but there were others in Brazil that learned Jiu Jitsu before the Gracies. Look at Judo today. It's become an Olympic Sport and is practiced in about 200 countries. Does that seem like Kano never wanted foreigners to learn his art of judo? They don't practice guard pulling in modern Judo because it's not favored and Kano despised guard pulling because it negated his throws that he developed so he banned it in Kodokan Judo only for guard pulling to be allowed in Kosen Judo. Over a century ago in Japan, competitors in Judo competitions would either sit down, lay down, or pull guard immediately in judo matches. This was a way to avoid getting thrown and losing the contest and to also get the match to the ground as quickly as possible where one could use their superior newaza over the other Judoka. Kano didn't like that so he banned guard pulling in 1925.

[@gutterfightsecrets]

No offense taken. That was a really cool piece of history to read. Thanks for the clarification.

[@ClydeRowing]

Fascinating history, thanks! I do wonder if BJJ diverges much from the Kodokan Judo of the 1920's - ie how much of it's development is uniquely Brazillian, rather than mainly bearing Maeda's stamp.

[@justinians9367]

Niall D well its hard to say if you look up cosen judo it looks like bjj but if you look at aikijujtsu its based around wrist locks and wrist control do to the sword or dagger being what you would go for first

[@justinians9367]

John Merchant yeah man from what resurch iv done thare wer a ton of koryu (old school pre budo arts) jujutsu differs from place to place and family to family in pre modern japan. As for leg locks most of what i found says that M.M. learnd them frome catch wrestling but if im wrong id not mind in the least

[@BloodofPatriots]

Almost NONE of what bjj claims to have invented is true. Leglocks have ALWAYS been part of Judo, but were banned by IJF competition rules. To learn them all you have to do is ask. There's always a shodan or higher in every club that learned them and can teach you.

[@rhysnichols8608]

People say say the knife defence taught in Jujitsu doesn’t work....and they’re 100% right when it comes to modern street combat. However when you remember they were training to fight in armour then it makes more sense....the big wind up and over exaggerated attack was necessary to actually penetrate the armour and do damage. In modern knife fighting they can just thrust it at you non stop in a crazy manor and that shit works! But back in the day they had to do more direct and powerful (slower) attacks with knifes to actually penetrate armour. They couldn’t just slash and stab randomly. Also the technique when disarming the knife is relatively safe in armour as your protected quite well, again in the modern streets you’re not. So bare that in mind when training knifes....things have changed.

[@garyharper4188]

What you say is true. Knife defence is very different these days with grab and stab and sewing machine attacks and damn near impossible to defend against.

[@nstv23]

After samurai collapsed, ju jtsu went underground. It was eventually labelled as low class thing etc. Kano was smart and a lover of the art. He knew he had to adapt it and turn it into a upper class thing again. That's exactly what he did modified structured it and the rest is history. A little history from Brazil. There were many Japanese teaching ju jitsu in Brazil and all over the world at the time. Some raising the flag of ju jitsu, some straight from kodokan dojo. The Gracies didn’t want to fall under kodokan umbrella and their structure. The Gracies had their own vision and needed the freedom to do whatever they wanted. Also, they were using and training Ju Jitsu preserving the martial art aspect of it and not as much as a sport. Just like many other Japanese teaching in Brazil at the time, the Gracies were teaching ju jitsu and marketing themselves as a jiu jitsu, fighters and teachers just like all the others Japanese fighter that were in Brazil promoting and marketing themselves as ju jitsu fighters and teachers as well and not promoting the kodokan from Japan. Of course some Japanese were promoting the kodokan as well. It’s very simple. Ju Jitsu became Kano ju jitsu that became kodokan judo. This linage is the most important. All the modern sports like BJJ, sambo, Olympic judo, submission wrestling are all amazing branches from the same tree. Again they are all different sports from the same art. When gracies took it to US they patented Gracie jiu jitsu. In Brazil it was always called Jiu-Jitsu only. With the growth of Jiu jitud a competition scene of the sport jiu jitsu started growing in Brazil. Because of the refinement of the techniques and growth of the new sport, many gyms were opening everywhere. People were getting promoted and opening new gyms or “business” all over the world. In the US the same thing started to happen. People were migrating to teach the art after the boom from the UFC. So with the money opportunities in the US many people wanted to teach jiu jitsu but didn’t want to pay to use the Gracie name. As the American scene evolved and grew there was a need to create a federation and for marketing purposes, the “ Brazilian “ jiu jitsu federation was created. The Brazilian was to show that it was the same art from the Gracies without any legal trademark problems. Peace ✌🏻 and please go train both modern BJJ + modern judo = real ju jitsu Best of both worlds. Respect both sports because it is the same art. Respect all the pioneers that paved the way on both sides. Because of each person involved we today have all these greatness of grappling around. Osu !

[@leonardomax2941]

One point I would like to remark, Mr Maeda also taught the Brazilian navy, one of these students from the navy, Mr. Luiz França, taught JiuJitsu to Mr. Oswaldo Fadda, which led to the Fadda school of BJJ(Oswaldo Fadda and Helio Gracie were rivals and good friends at the same time, Oswaldo Fadda named his son Helio Fadda in honor to Helio Gracie). The Fadda BJJ has a more traditional approach of the martial art, the Fadda BJJ has given origin the GFTeam for example. Gracies are not the only school of BJJ nor they are the first, they did a great job promoting the martial art worldwide, but also, it is unfair to claim the Gracies as the first or the only lineage of BJJ

[@legbreaker]

GJJ was for the rich and middel class of society and real BJJ from França and later on to Fadda was for the poor and lower class. Fadda was teaching it in the outskirts of Rio. You can even notice it today, GJJ has become a rich institute. Anyways, I wonder if that's what Kano had in mind about teaching the world his Jujitsu/Judo..

[@FSMWorshiper]

Hello brother! Would love to see more on the Fadda branch...that's wherein my lineage falls into place. I would like to know more about Fadda/Franca connections to Maeda (books/articles/etc..). I am currently a purple belt under Zak Cummings-who received his black belt from Leonardo Pecanha and I follow that back to Franca/Fadda but I don't see much information available on them.

[@gaven6543]

Japanese Jiu Jitsu is the foundation of BJJ,Judo,Aikido

[@danle3181]

Judo is the foundation of bjj.

[@ironjavs1182]

Actually old Judo (when it was almost the same then Ju Jutsu) is a foundation for BJJ, but yeah... you are right! Aikido and Judo were developed pretty much straight from JJJ (Aikido from Daito Ryu Aikijutsu)... But that is the reason why there is a lot similiar techniques in all 3 of them. The training methods and the focus in training are really different and that is probably the reason why people talk BS, but if they knew better maybe the BS would stop.

[@danle3181]

@@ironjavs1182 Is it BS to say that judo is no longer jujutsu ?

[@ironjavs1182]

@@danle3181 that is pretty good question. There is dojos that still does ground grappling as well.. the same question goes pretty well to Aikido as well, but I would say that both of them are focusing more to individuals growth and path ("do" part) more then jutsu. 🤔

[@danle3181]

@@ironjavs1182 Kano Shihan finally called it JUDO. There must have been a good reason for that, certainly to differentiate it from jujutsu. Otherwise, he would have kept Kano ryu jujutsu.

[@SanethRajindaMarthos]

Mr. Mitsuyo Maeda had more than a one student. He had taught Jujutsu for many others as well. A one was quite famous and his name was Mr. Luiz Franca. He taught Jujutsu to Mr. Oswaldo Fadda and he was a grandmaster in BJJ who didn't belong to the Gracie lineage.

[@danle3181]

He taught judo, not jujutsu.

[@mattmurphy2755]

I've been doing a lot of reading on early Japan recently. This was fantastic content, much appreciated

[@gutterfightsecrets]

Matt Murphy Thanks for watching Murphy I’ve been into early Japan recently also. It’s a fascinating topic.

[@rhysnichols8608]

During ww2 a British soldier named Norman Grundy was in a Japanese POW camp. He was training in boxing and jujitsu for years before the war. Apparently if you asked nicely the guards would show you a thing or 2....things the western school of jujutsu and judo didn’t have. Some of the older secrets especially the nerve point strikes and knock outs were removed when it was brought to the west. But the Japanese army were trained in the old style way of jujitsu. Norman brought his knowledge back to England where he locally incorporated what he learned into his schools, he worked as a fireman with my dad and is locally well known...he died in the 90s. It’s really interesting

[@garyharper4188]

That is really interesting. Is there anything else written about this man ? Where did he teach?

[@HussarPlays]

Good info Sir. I just joined a Japanese Jiujitsu gym that teaches also BJJ. To his video clears up a lot

[@erikbudrow1255]

Why is there not a movie/ tv series about this?? Would be fascinating and totally badass! Cool video, thanks for sharing!

[@mangekyou45rinnegan]

Because this ain't a USA thing, i mean if Gracies brothers were north americans it would probably have tons of shows about what they would call it american jiu jitsu.😂

[@prodigypenn]

I have heard some of this before, but there were a few new details I hadn't heard before. Also a few points to add, Maeda did not just train 1 student, he had at least 2 students, Carlos Gracie and Luiz franca. The Gracies were well-off so they were able to spread their influence much further, but the other lineage still exists today, although not as widespread. Also in Japanese jujutsu traditionally you were not looking to hold down and submit your opponent, you would hold him down, and choke or beak something in order to have enough time to finish him off and take his head as a trophy, or at least his scalp.

[@KOMBATPedia]

With all due respect, the idea that Jigoro Kano didn't want Judo to be teached to foreigners is incorrect. Actually he made this system in order for it to become an Olimpic sport and to be wide spread across the world. Kano was an official working for Japans Education Ministery. He was the one who helped Ueshiba and Funakoshi develop Haikido and modern Karate helping them to achieve notoriety by the invitation he made them to implement these Martial Arts in Schools. Regarding "Count Koma" Sensei Maeda, it's true that he used to fight for money, but it got him into problems with Kano when he got to know about Maedas "adventures". Acctually he never changed his name. Count Koma was the nickame the Sapanish gave him when he came to Spain.

[@Aluzunaris6]

Maeda had no formal Jujitsu training. He was a Judo black belt. He picked up a lot of things from the fighting circuits, but didn't rank in jujitsu besides Kanos jujitsu, aka judo. He was sent overseas by Kano for the sole purpose of spreading Judo. Many called it Kano jujitsu still.

[@Ivuspp]

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu looks just like Judo, because it is Basically Just Judo. When Mitsuyo Maeda, a.k.a. "Conde Koma", began teaching Carlos Gracie in Belem do Para, Brazil in 1917, he was teaching Jigoro Kano's Jiu-Jitsu direct from the Kodokan in Japan. The name "Judo" was not popularized until 1925. Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judo instructor whose specialty was ground fighting (newaza). This type of ground-only fighting is often referred to as Kosen Judo, or High School Judo, because it was popularized in Japanese High Schools as a form of interscholastic wrestling. Kosen Judo rules allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled competitor could drag the other down to the ground (a tactic now known as "pulling-guard" in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu). There is absolutely no question that the Gracie family demonstrated great skill and marketing acumen by promoting "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the masses. Helio Gracie's loss to Kodokan Judoka Masahiko Kimura was advertised as a "moral victory". More importantly, the Gracies sponsored the original Ultimate Fighting Championships when the world was begging for a professional combat sport with more depth than Boxing and more realism than the WWF. However, there is now a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students who only know half the story. Worse yet, they are often paying enormous prices for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu name only to learn a subset of Jigoro Kano's original Jiu-Jitsu techniques and teaching methods. The Judo world has not been without fault too. High ranking judoka often looked down on the new popular MMA world due to Judo's Olympic status. As a result, most Judo schools have been over-emphasizing the throwing techniques within Judo due to pressure from the International Olympic Comittee to increase ratings on TV for the brief moments when Olympic Judo would receive air time. Similarly, there is a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students, and now instructors, who incorrectly think Judo is nothing but a standing sport.

[@jjs3890]

Francisco Aglairton pulling guard was never a samurai method. That was an additive from judo. When samurai went to the ground they were often going for wrist locks (which judo removed), chokes, locks and the occasional “dirty tricks” or more accurately “survival methods” has f you were in a bad situation.

[@mkolland123]

great analyses. I trained in japanese ju jitsu and now BJJ and I love the historical understanding of it. BJJ is much more applicable to modern times.

[@jimjohnson6944]

@Loonytoones85 your mom gay

[@chazwikiwiki4636]

japanese jujutsu is the best i am so glad i got to learn from a guy that tout me original Japanese jujutsu

[@aleksander7014]

Yeah if anyone is told about Judo or Brazilian know that Brazilian is a submission and ground martial art and judo is just watered down jujitsu, you learn everything in Japanese jujitsu and more than what you’d know in judo

[@mongolchiuud8931]

Chaz is a liar....original Japanese jujutsu.. .lmao....jjj is made up of 2 dozen separate n unique systems. Anyone that talks about Japanese jujutsu as if it was one style and without naming the style or Ryu of jujutsu doesn't know what they r talking about....lol

[@mikewillis375]

Right there was Bone breakers, Strikers and Siezers, Rope users, ETC.

[@mongolchiuud8931]

@@mikewillis375 yup example Yagyu Shingen Ryu Jujutsu was kung fu like with empyhand katas and mostly strikes... www.youtube.comwatch?v=BkIJEiQSogI And styles like Sekiguchi Shin Shin ryu that was more grappling- kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5PQeot8abeDl68 There are dozens of dozens of different Jujustu systems as "Jujutsu" is a generic term in my nation for ANY empy-hand system native to Japan. People who say or talk about doing "JJJ" and say JJJ has this and that without even mentioning the style or name are trolls and liars.

[@Aluzunaris6]

Bull. Real randori of judo was the difference in effectiveness over japanese jujitsu. And since Brazilian jiujitsu came from it, that translated. Judos entire curriculum can be practiced against fully resisting opponents with lower risk of injury. Judo is a jujitsu style.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

"Count koma" taught more than just the Gracies, he also taught the Machados and Franka. Maybe a few more.

[@gerardmurphy8278]

Dirk Plankchest machados are related to the gracies

[@tysonkampbjj]

The lineage from Franca leads to Julio Cesar and GFTeam. I think there is at least one other lineage in Brasil not related to the Gracies if not more, but it's kind of difficult to suppose that there was no influence back and forth as they did engage in tournaments and see what each other was doing. I believe there was also one or more other instructors from Japan that produced black belts in Brasil but I can't think of their names (I remember reading it somewhere).

[@aluisiofsjr]

@@tysonkampbjj , it's the Fadda family, know for ankle locks.

[@sashablackwood1755]

A guy called TriStar gym... I'm dead!😂🤣😂🤔

[@youtubeepicuser4209]

Japanese jiu jitsu is actually called jujitsu

[@Commander1987]

Actually jujutsu

[@mjolnir9855]

Marshall Rosenlund , actually Jew-Jip-sue

[@Kristoffceyssens]

@@mjolnir9855 krav maga original was called jew-jitsu

[@mephilatian]

It's like KeNpo and KeMpo right? It's just Japanese being phoneticized into western language. Judo could have been Jiudo. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu translated into Japanese would be Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, with the Jiu-Jitsu part written with the same symbol as japanese Jujutsu. Burajilian Jujutsu. Wait a minute, were you talking about the "japanese" being taken out of the phrase "japanese jiu jitsu" to signify jujutsu as a whole? I've confused myself.

[@mephilatian]

Correct. Also known as Jujitsu and Jiu Jitsu.

[@jaemolina]

This is the only thing I would add or make comment. I understand as Helio trained, he realized ground defense techniques of “judo” were weak, so he developed the “guard” system of control from the bottom. To this day, this is the true distinction between judo and jiu jitsu, other than the percentage of time dedicated to a ground game vs a takedown game.

[@jadekayak01]

most of this was about right. real jujutsu was warfare arts and unarmed was a tiny portion of that. helio gracie changed the name to (gracie) jujutsu-not conde coma

[@Tsz2g4f]

Maeda has forever dishonoured his master

[@mizukarate]

Did you run into the Scotish background of the Gracie Family?

[@gutterfightsecrets]

I've heard about it but didn't have time to mention it in this video. Thanks for checking us out btw

[@mizukarate]

@@gutterfightsecrets I remember watching a video on youtube that mentioned the family connection to an architect. This architect created Gracie Mansion in NYC.

[@mizukarate]

I enjoyed your videos because I am a martial artist interested in the military arts. I am not military veteran but respect the history and skills.

[@steakovercake3986]

Though I'm still confused as to the difference i really did appreciate that history lesson!

[@blackstarafro2]

The is no difference. It is jui jitsu. It is just Brazilians and mma fans calling it BJJ. It is equivalent to people saying Korean fried chicken. When it is African American style of cooking. It was taught to them by African American GI's during and after the war. Claiming something and disregarding its history, and rewriting it is disrespectful.

[@TheSilatiger]

the real samurai art was aiki jujutsu,ju jitsu came from this,it was weapons based as well as empty handed,there are still good schools of it ,suggest ogawa ryu school ,found here on youtube

[@Ivuspp]

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu looks just like Judo, because it is Basically Just Judo. When Mitsuyo Maeda, a.k.a. "Conde Koma", began teaching Carlos Gracie in Belem do Para, Brazil in 1917, he was teaching Jigoro Kano's Jiu-Jitsu direct from the Kodokan in Japan. The name "Judo" was not popularized until 1925. Mitsuyo Maeda was a Kodokan Judo instructor whose specialty was ground fighting (newaza). This type of ground-only fighting is often referred to as Kosen Judo, or High School Judo, because it was popularized in Japanese High Schools as a form of interscholastic wrestling. Kosen Judo rules allowed direct transition to newaza, enabling scenarios where one less skilled competitor could drag the other down to the ground (a tactic now known as "pulling-guard" in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu). There is absolutely no question that the Gracie family demonstrated great skill and marketing acumen by promoting "Gracie Jiu-Jitsu" or Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu to the masses. Helio Gracie's loss to Kodokan Judoka Masahiko Kimura was advertised as a "moral victory". More importantly, the Gracies sponsored the original Ultimate Fighting Championships when the world was begging for a professional combat sport with more depth than Boxing and more realism than the WWF. However, there is now a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students who only know half the story. Worse yet, they are often paying enormous prices for the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu name only to learn a subset of Jigoro Kano's original Jiu-Jitsu techniques and teaching methods. The Judo world has not been without fault too. High ranking judoka often looked down on the new popular MMA world due to Judo's Olympic status. As a result, most Judo schools have been over-emphasizing the throwing techniques within Judo due to pressure from the International Olympic Comittee to increase ratings on TV for the brief moments when Olympic Judo would receive air time. Similarly, there is a generation of Jiu-Jitsu students, and now instructors, who incorrectly think Judo is nothing but a standing sport.

[@ironjavs1182]

Pretty much yeah... but BJJ is focusing on a ground grappling and today Judo is focusing standing/throws.

[@garryhiggs4307]

Very informative info greetings from the UK.

[@dabunnyrabbit2620]

I do believe Last Samurai was with Tom Cruise.

[@aineeshdutt7324]

@Loonytoones85 it is Tom Cruise

[@PaytienceT]

Late comment, but regarding why Jigoro removed the dangerous components of jujitsu: it's inaccurate to say that he did it to make it more sporting. The opposite in fact. Kano theorized that what made a technique effective was a person's ability to practice it. Thus, by removing the techniques thst could not be practiced full force, it allowed him to focus on becoming more effective with the remaining techniques and applying the overal fighting strategy. The focus on standing throws is the result of making the art more sportive...but the removal of the more dangerous techniques is not.

[@abcdef-kx2qt]

WRONG !!!!

[@jjs3890]

The samurai occasionally practiced their jujutsu in full force, competitions and challenge matches. Now severe storm injuries and deaths were allowed and frequently happened. Judo removed the dangerous components and changed many of the throws to allow safe break falls. Most Jujutsu schools would break something before or during the throw straight on your face or head.

[@garyharper4188]

@@abcdef-kx2qt RIGHT. Kano warned against the sporting version of Judo becoming too important.

[@RyuKilledKenny]

Both arts a great. It's also very good to see bidirectional techniques. Our jujitsu school teaches elements of bjj because of the better ground techniques. Im also see bjj schools adopting more joint locks and Jujitsu throws.

[@JohnGalt916]

If I'm understanding correctly the real difference is just time. And utility. Jiu-Jitsu made sense because of armor, Judo made sense because culture, and BJJ makes sense because once again culture and clothing (no gi)

[@OfTheOldArts]

2:43 sword cuts, arrows n' shit 😅 love the simplicity 😅 and totally agree with this whole video, great job!

[@BrandonMckayGaryRalph]

Love the video, great history lesson. Just making sure I understand what you explained in the video, So basically Japanese Jiu Jitsu is Judo & BJJ mixed together (Both stand up & ground fighting) while BJJ is mainly ground work (ground fighting)?

[@gutterfightsecrets]

something like that.

[@gutterfightsecrets]

@@BrandonMckayGaryRalph good question bro, I don't have a definitive answer for you. I've always heard of all of those arts collectively referred to as the grappling arts but I also know most people refer to BJJ as grappling. I've also heard guys refer to "grappling range" would be more like clenching and throwing range but I don't really dive to deep into all the terminology I just say learn how to grab the mother flower throw him to the ground and break his body or choke him and thats good enough for me. hope this helped, and thanks for the respect man.

[@BrandonMckayGaryRalph]

Thanks, that was helpful.

[@andrewrussell1678]

In our Jujitsu dojo we also invite a local Shotokan Karate club to train with us occassionally ,an Aikido club, a Judo club and a Bjj club. We sometimes visit their dojo ,Our instructor has been learning Jujitsu for forty years and can still improve certain aspects of our art as do the other arts we practice and share our art with. Did you know Karate also used to use takedowns,arm locks etc but its been trained out due to sport Karate wanting to make it safer and simpler to score.

[@vyrUS79]

Maeda was a Kosen Judo practitioner, where they focus more on Newaza (ground) over Tachiwaza (standup). Maeda taught Kosen Judo to Carlos and Helio. BJJ IS Kosen Judo

[@berningsandwiches2662]

BJJ is derived from Kosen Judo, but is not the same. We have some Judo blackbelts at my BJJ school, but they're just blue belts in BJJ. BJJs focus on ground game is still much more extensive.

[@cypresspuz]

Aadil Mohammed Gracies aint SHIT

[@justinians9367]

Berning Sandwiches are the judo black belts in cosen? Just wondering

[@berningsandwiches2662]

Justinian S I'd have to ask, but there's still techniques sometimes used in class that we identify as judo techniques because they're different from what we learn. Side control for example is completely different in Judo vs BJJ.

[@vyrUS79]

Berning Sandwiches Kosen Judo is different from Kodokan, almost two different arts. I would go out on a limb and assume, those judo guys in your gym are kodokan or Olympic style judokas. Everything in BJJ can be found in Kosen, more accurately everything in Kosen can be found in BJJ. Kosen being older than BJJ. Just do a quick KZbin search for old Kosen Judo vids. You will see that its BJJ

[@charlesprice6973]

Really good vid and was interesting topic. As long as the overall story was told no worries about if a few things weren't exactly correct. I give u props

[@UltimateSenshi]

Thank you for the vid. You explained it well.

[@LarryBrooks-cf9qp]

Maeda left japan after kano jujitsu training in 1908. Kano started the SPORT of judo and limited the ground work to about 20 seconds, called the limit the kosen rule, he did this in 1925. Maeda took on all oncomers, disguarding the rules of judo. Maeda said that while in south america he taught kano jujitsu. Helio gracie said they learned jujitsu. Judo is a part of jujitsu. All of kanos instructors were jujitsu guys, kano had 5 years of training when he tried to name judo sport.

[@jimmyalderson1639]

A minor addition that a lot of people miss out when explaining the difference between japanese jujutsu and judo is that Kano-sensei also eliminated all techniques that he saw as requiring too much strength, and he only kept techniques which could be performed on a larger opponent even by a smaller one. He also HEAVILY modified old jujutsu techniques. For example if you watch any jujutsu video where they do throws, and then watch a judo video where they do throws with the same name thhey're often very different, and if not then they're completely unintelligible. He also introduced the concept of kuzishi (balance breaking) which is something you only really see in the judo stand, although it exists in BjJ in the form of posture but it's only really taught on the ground. This might seem like a minor detail but it's really not. The Japanese police department (newly formed at the time of 1886) hosted a tournament between all the best jujutsu schools (back then judo was just seen as a variation of jujutsu) to decide which koryu woukd be taught to the police. Judo beat their jujutsu opponents 12-1-2 that is to say two draws, one loss and twelve wins out if their fifteen matches. The reason i bring this up is because the way the history of jujutsu's always explained makes it sound like judo was just a transition fossil. It was sort of like jujutsu and sort of like BJJ, but only exists so that BJJ could develop. Basically it makes it sound like judo's just this little nich version of jujutsu that's only important in history. When in reality it is that judo diverged from jujutsu, and BJJ developed from judo, but they both have continued to develop side by side since. Why do, when explaining their history, BJJ guys give more precedence to their grandparents than their parents? They always speak volumes about jujutsu but then they say 'well judo existed' then move on like it's no big deal. No wonder i get idiots complaining to me that 'BJJ actually came from traditional jujutsu' and 'BJJ invented this position, and this fhoke, and this armlock' - because no BJj history video explains the links between judo and BJJ properly

[@snapkick2groinleftlegheelo232]

I always thought the difference is that bjj was more ground game..

[@mongolchiuud8931]

depends on the tournament example in Japan...lots of Newaza tournaments kzbin.info?search_query=Newawa1999+judo

[@kipallen8418]

I'm Excited about BJJ Mega-star Robert Drysdale is Making a Documentary Called " CLOSED GUARD" About the extended history of Red Belts In Brazilian Jiu Jitsu' Robert Drysdale Said He Would Go Beyond The Lineage Of KANO/MITSUYO MAEDA Creation Story Cause There Were Alot Of Japanese In Brazil In The 1900's I'm Hoping He Provides More Depth To The History...The Movie Should Be Released By The End Of The Year.." Oss!!

[@nstv23]

He left a lot out and as much as he tried he didn't stayed unbiased. After samurai collapsed, ju jtsu went underground. It was eventually labelled as low class thing etc. Kano was smart and a lover of the art. He knew he had to adapt it and turn it into a upper class thing again. That's exactly what he did modified structured it and the rest is history. A little history from Brazil. There were many Japanese teaching ju jitsu in Brazil and all over the world at the time. Some raising the flag of ju jitsu, some straight from kodokan dojo. The Gracies didn’t want to fall under kodokan umbrella and their structure. The Gracies had their own vision and needed the freedom to do whatever they wanted. Also, they were using and training Ju Jitsu preserving the martial art aspect of it and not as much as a sport. Just like many other Japanese teaching in Brazil at the time, the Gracies were teaching ju jitsu and marketing themselves as a jiu jitsu, fighters and teachers just like all the others Japanese fighter that were in Brazil promoting and marketing themselves as ju jitsu fighters and teachers as well and not promoting the kodokan from Japan. Of course some Japanese were promoting the kodokan as well. It’s very simple. Ju Jitsu became Kano ju jitsu that became kodokan judo. This linage is the most important. All the modern sports like BJJ, sambo, Olympic judo, submission wrestling are all amazing branches from the same tree. Again they are all different sports from the same art. When gracies took it to US they patented Gracie jiu jitsu. In Brazil it was always called Jiu-Jitsu only. With the growth of Jiu jitud a competition scene of the sport jiu jitsu started growing in Brazil. Because of the refinement of the techniques and growth of the new sport, many gyms were opening everywhere. People were getting promoted and opening new gyms or “business” all over the world. In the US the same thing started to happen. People were migrating to teach the art after the boom from the UFC. So with the money opportunities in the US many people wanted to teach jiu jitsu but didn’t want to pay to use the Gracie name. As the American scene evolved and grew there was a need to create a federation and for marketing purposes, the “ Brazilian “ jiu jitsu federation was created. The Brazilian was to show that it was the same art from the Gracies without any legal trademark problems. Peace ✌🏻 and please go train both modern BJJ + modern judo = real ju jitsu Best of both worlds. Respect both sports because it is the same art. Respect all the pioneers that paved the way on both sides. Because of each person involved we today have all these greatness of grappling around. Osu !

[@TTAG01]

Top man. Great summary. I was always wanting to know how Japanese Jujitsu went over to Brazil. I study Kempo Jujitsu in the UK which is based off the Japanese system not the Brazilian one, so it’s great to now have this info. 👊🏽 Ouss!

[@phx4closureman]

10:29 *all the cool kids are doing it* 😆😆😆😆

[@scottfitzgerald5864]

Ok. Well done. Toby Threadgil Sensei is an American who studied extensively in Japan Shindo Yoshin Jiu Jitsu, which had been preserved there since feudal times (300 years). If one googles Shindo Yoshin-the torch is passed from one Japanese master to the next until Mr. Threadgill was given the privilege of being its highest ranked teacher. As all the old masters have passed He is in effect a one man Historical Society for the Art. If he dies, the Art will go with. He possesses the original 6 scrolls of curriculum for the Art. He is the only person to this date that understands the art in its entirety. If he dies the art would go with him. His dojo is like stepping into feudal Japan. Not much on the internet or KZbin. He does not advertise. Half the curriculum is with weapons and all the curriculum is basically how to submit or assassinate ones foe. I once asked for an interview to study under him but changed my mind due to the commitment level. He interviews potential students due to the lethality of the curriculum. Most martial arts one must remember have a similar history. Most martial arts can become lethal in the streets when ones technique is expressed in an unrestricted manner. Very interesting. Thank you for submitting

[@danbryant5734]

There appears to be little evidence now that Maeda spent much time as Carlos Gracie's coach directly. It seems like Jacinto Fero taught Carlos as Maeda was more involved in Japanese immigration when Carlos was a young man.

[@33iknow]

There is a few more details that you could add about how Helio contributed to the BJJ system. He was not as strong as Carlos and Helio is responsible for adding more leverage to defeat stronger opponents. Great video too! Keep up the great work...

[@varanid9]

I find it laughable that someone could claim to have "created" leverage to use in a martial art that is greatly dependant upon leverage. Perhaps you can point out some locks and throws that DON'T use leverage.

[@33iknow]

Ezekiel choke, rape choke, and the butterfly choke. You can easily find plenty of documentations stating how Helio brought more leverage to the game. He was smaller and would wear his opponents out by having these marathon matches and waiting until they were tired to tap them out. I never said he "creating" I said that "Helio is responsible for adding more leverage to defeat stronger opponents". Sorry for any misunderstanding...

[@cypresspuz]

Troll Masters Helio aint SHIT. Kimura beat him with EASE.

[@varanid9]

cypresspuz It's a famous story, very obvious to anyone with a brain that it wasn't anywhere close to an easy victory

[@iansinclair6256]

Watch the clip and it was obvious even with the rules that Kimura dominated the match. They even admitted he choked him out and then let it go and the match continued. This was inside the time they agreed on i might add. The Gracies are very good at Juijutsu and very good at spreading stories of half truth's.

[@loreljacq5744]

BJJ is very ver specualized ground. But Inprefer Japanese JuJitsu as has a lot of stand up Karate strikes infact mostly strike then throw and then ground. So BJJ are missing out on many aspects such as weapon trainning. Would u want to go to the ground with two or three attackers or stand and use strikes on most ocasions.

[@dudechill7531]

The Last Samurai is an excellent movie 🍿

[@FR-ty5vn]

I practiced Kindai Ryu Jiu Jitsu for years, various other martial arts, as well as Gracie Jiu Jitsu for the past few years. Japanese Jiu Jitsu employs many strikes in addition to chokes, locks, and throws. But you are correct that Judo became the sport version of Jiu Jitsu and removed the deadlier techniques. The Gracie’s (& later other Brazilians) further developed the Newaza in greater detail/technique. Some gaps and much more could be discussed regarding the Gracie’s/Brazilian developments, but not a bad summary.

[@angelcovarrubias3418]

I'm still looking for the Berimbolo in Kodokan Judo...

[@mongolchiuud8931]

www.bjjee.com/articles/berimbolo-used-kosen-judo-way-back-1950s/

[@Packaroo]

To me, it appears that Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu is just somebody's selected techniques from Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, and then adding the name of Brazil to that.

[@BloodofPatriots]

Jujutsu. The mispronunciation of "Jujutsu" (Ju="Gentle", "Jutsu" = "System/Technique") as "JuJITsu" makes no sense in Japanese. The closest translation would be "Ju" = "Gentle", "Jit" = "Affection/Affectionate", "Su" = "Sigh" or "Gentle, affectionate sigh".

[@BloodofPatriots]

Spearchucker. :)

[@BloodofPatriots]

Shine boy. :)

[@BloodofPatriots]

Watermelon thief. ;)

[@charlesprice6973]

The translation always gets lost .

[@jimmyalderson1639]

BloodofPatriots actually in theory the miss pronounciation makes sense if you write the kanji in the native hiragana. Because there is no sound for 'ju', it is done by combining the character 'shi' with a dakuten to make 'ji' then putting a small 'yu' after it, which colloquially turned into 'j(i)yu' So technically it should be spelt 'jiyujiyutsu'

[@TheKinesiologist1]

Japanese Jujutsu first imperial school was founded in late 700 ce. it's pretty old. been around even longer than that.

[@jasongludd998]

Great video.

[@gutterfightsecrets]

Trini GamerDude thanks man

[@rezanadesian6652]

He broke all the rules !

[@KelpWolf]

Nice work on this history piece

[@natetizzo771]

They didnt do wrestling until roll gracie

[@panzerfaust1322]

I really enjoyed this. Thank you.

[@gutterfightsecrets]

Panzer Faust thanks for watching🤙

[@Themindofreyrey]

Great video brotha!

[@gutterfightsecrets]

Thanks bra.

[@marcoglara2012]

Good work brother.

[@vincentbryan1962]

Look up “the Gracie hunter” and you’ll see it in action

[@ranchlife8128]

Kazushi Sakuraba was a Submission Wrestler and studied BJJ.

[@memysurname7521]

Sakuraba was a CACC WRESTLER. Not a Judoka. And is sad that hes only remembered when the name Gracie is talked.

[@scheisstag]

In 0:42 you say it was an unarmed way of fighting. The early Ju Jutsu system of feudalism japan included unarmed defence against weapons, as well as attacks with weapons.

[@rbmk1234]

My friend. You have a wrong infotmation. Maeda taught some people in Brazil (not only Carlos, not only Gracies). By the way, it wasn’t him directly to teach those students. The instructor was a japanese person that belonged to his group (whose name I can’t remember now). Maed was a great fighter, but he had a very wild social life. He wouldn’t spend time directly teaching. Another thing: some especlialists states that he taught Carlos, George (the best fighter of the family) and Gastão, three of the four Gracie brothers. So it wasn’t only Carlos. It is true he taught judo under the name of jiu-jitsu, but the gracies adapted themselfs much more to neawaza, the groud fighting of judo. That is why in the 30’s they made so much effort to distingish themselfs from judo fighters, so they could have “their own martial alrt”. A other thing: It is strange this information that foreigners were not allowed to learn judo. Many other judo masters came to Brazil (Ono brothers, Takeo Iano etc.), and tonthe rest of the world, to teach judo and they fought vale tudo events (even against the gracies). I sugest you to learn portuguese to be able to make a good historical research. To finish, Helio self-learning is a story that changes by the time. There are newspapper with interviews from the 30’s where Helio says clearly that he learned from his brother. This version appeares in the 80’s or 90’s.

[@Slamminbassplayer]

Thanks for sharing, dude

[@gutterfightsecrets]

thanks for watching Jesse

[@masterj4777]

Man this is amazing 🥋

[@kimche235]

so a brazilian guy learns japanese jujitsu and goes "look i invented brazilian jujitsu".weak

[@LarryBrooks-cf9qp]

Maeda did not change the name back to jujitsu. He taught kano jujitsu. Judo is a sport! It has rules. He most likely trained gracie for 2 years. He did not teach helio, he was 4 years old at the time! carlos taught helio.

[@easterbuny2226]

Its all about marketing is what I personally think . The Brazilians are trying to have there brand of sneakers and make money off it

[@jadekayak01]

jimmy alderson you have a fairly good handle on bjj. but bjj(basically just judo) came from kodokan JUDO,which came from real jujutsu via Kamo Jigaro and it was a battlefield art. judo had all the weapon content and unarmed striking taken out and concentrated on throws and locks of certain types. what the Gracie's did with it is phenomenal but their heads are too fat and tried,and are still trying to change history to fit THIER narative

[@jimmyalderson1639]

jadekayak01 nudo still has striking techniques, but only in kata. No one really knows though, because competitive IJf 'judo' isn't exactly a good mascot. I agree what the Gracies did with the NEWAZA is incredible, but to suggest that they evolved the whole art is quite crude, since their nagewaza not only hasn't improved but it's actually deteriorated to depressing proportions. It used to be promoted as some big self defense art, for if a fight goes tot he ground. But because of that they've ignored that all fights start from standing, and a good nagewaza or strike to the jaw isn't going to be countered by hauling your broken spine into guard-position. Basically judo focused on element A (although it certainly didn't originally neglect element B, though it has now) because, as Kano-sensei said, 'both nagewaza and katamewaza are of great importance, a good practitioner should master both. But if only one can be learned, emphasis should be on nagewaza' because it's no good being the greatest tornado guard exoert on the planet if you get punched in the kidney, or thrown straight tonyour back. The gracies saw however that element B was being neglected somewhat in grappling arts, and greatly so in martial arts in general. But then by trying to master element B they completely ignored and fortgot about element A. Like a musician learning a piece with two sections, focussing on the second section and then forgetting the first section which starts the piece. And this is all ignoring Kosen Judo which, if it were more widely practiced, would gove Gracie Jiu Jitsu a run for its money. But ignoring that, yes BJJ is fantastic. And i am well aware of its routs and heritage - more so than what most BJJ black belts would lead me to believe they have, but it is certainly the case that the Gracies' (most of them, but not all) have their heads so far up their arse that it's almost comical to watch their documentaries

[@jimmyalderson1639]

jadekayak01 i should make it clear that i train both styles, and have trained judo for longer - just because the content of your last comment leads me to believe that you don't think i understand a lot about judo

[@jadekayak01]

jimmy alderson Olympic judo is nothing like kodakan judo. kodakan had a lot more diversity and maeda was a first generation student. what the Gracie's did was to take only what they wanted and refine it for a "sport" application . it is not a true martial art(bjj) as it was derived from judo,which is a gendai budo(modern martial way,the same as aikido,kendo,iaido) nothing WRONG with them but they are strictly speaking not martial arts(bujutsu-at least for the Japanese ones anyway)

[@jimmyalderson1639]

Wackka Wack i agree completely and am glad that they did create the UFC. Unfortunately though because of the way they did it they tried to make all other martial arts,mespecially grappling and especially arts closely related to BJJ (such as judo) look inferior, or even downright useless. In judo's case it's especially sad because there were already judoka who were participating in Vale Tudo like fights in the US and other places around the world (although they weren't supposed to be), so on the one hand it really makes me angry that some Brazilians did the same things they'd been doing for decades, with an art which (at the time) was no different to the art they practiced and with the exact same philosophy they had which defined their art from the koryu of yore, and then claim they made it all up on a whim and that they're superior and the former style is just some cash grab. I remember reading a jiu jitsu book and in it there was a history that was supposed to trafk the evolution of jujutsu to jiu jitsu. Most books usually emohasise the jujutsu, skip over the judo, and then tie BJJ directly to jujutsu. Some even claim that BJJ has nothing to donwith judo 'because why is it called jiu jitsu then?'. But this one got to judo and it just tried everything it could to make judo look bad and to make Kano-sensei look like a back. It basically said 'judo is just another style of jujutsu but without the dangerous techniques' first off completely false. Judo has the dangerous techniques of jujutsu, but not in randori (sparring), just like with jiu jitsu. Secondly 'just ankther style of jujutsu' requires some philosophy to explain, but to keep it brief: jujutsu was already out of popularity as this savage art of yore, if judo were 'just another school of jujutsu' then it wouldn't have been so readily accepted - the Japanese of 1990 knew more about judo v jujutsu than a martial artist who's supposed to have studied hard for a book he's writing. He then went on to say that Kano's star pupil Shiro Saigo (his ORIGINAL star pupil, he then had many others including Mifune, Tomita, Yamashita, and many others) 'wasn't really' a judoka because he had studied a style of jujutsu before (even though he trained in judo almost his whole life, and fought for judo because he wanted to fight for judo) and how the famous 1885 police tournament 'was supposed to be judo v jujutsu, but doesn't really count because only saigo was good and he already did jujutsu' again bollocks. Then hey went on to say how the newaza's 'stolen' from Fusen Ryu and how the Fusen Ryu guys destroyed Kano's pupils, as though learning from your mistakes is something to be ashamedd of. I've also heard gracie family members claim some stupid shit like that in judo they did the cross collar choke wrong and everything they did was done with full strength and no efficiency (even though efficiency's one of the big philosophical principles of judo) and everything was either created or improved by 10000000% by Helio and that stubby Kano dude who could lift up and toss fat European strong men was just using strength to do so, even though he had the same physique as Helio and in fact may have even been smaller (but we don't brag about that every 2 seconds usually) and that there were no names for these techniques, and that there are 30 submission techniques in BJJ that you won't find in any other grappling style. The reason i've gone oj this tangent (which is admittedly fairly unrelated) is, partially to vent, but to show the double edgeness of the UFC's campaign. It brought grappling to the limelight which i am grateful for, and i train and love BJJ as well. But the behaviour of the Gracies (Royce in particular) and the way they went out of their way not just to show you that jiu jitsu's the best (by picking inadequate representatives of most other arts, making generalisations and crying when you lose) but also to let you know, and to make it clear to you, that every other martial art is terrible. And while this prejudice is clearing up nowadays with cross training, it's still makes me shiver the grandmaster and original family of a martial art that i love and practice could be so skilled and yet so unrefined in their spirit and resort to cheap tactics like changing history to convince people they were super brave and just wanted tonpush themselves, when in reality they were scared and tried to run away, or by discrediting all other martial arts, especially the one that made them, and then steal all their philosophies and basic techniques and principles from it. And the impact of this can still be seen today in the... Less than reputable internet community

[@azeemelbey7292]

Today's BJJ is actually a clever blend of Capoeira and Judo... A lot of people don't know this.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

Azeem El Bey untrue.

[@dirkplankchest1796]

Azeem El Bey can you provide a source for this claim?

[@BloodofPatriots]

All bjj is is primitive pre-rule change Judo newaza. That's it.

[@angelcovarrubias3418]

Hmm, I think the newaza you see most BJJ purple belts practice in the USA is going to be looking very polished vis a vis the newaza you see many Judo 1st Dan in the USA practice. It's fair to say that Judo today is practiced in the USA at a level that is, shall we say, neglected in regards to newaza. Judoka in the USA today would benefit from "cross-training" with the local BJJ school in Newaza and could improve the tachiwaza of the BJJ school. When the two styles come together in modern times you get a very well rounded grappler such as the Camarillo Brothers.

[@Supermomo2007]

@@BloodofPatriots did you beat bjj guys in their own game?

[@genso3065]

I have not yet come across a japanese jiu-jitsu school, but see bjj everywhere else in town. Wonder why is that?!?!

[@storytime6263]

One was made to kill the other is a sport.

[@letsgoletsgoletsgoletsgoletsgo]

count Korma- indian food mogul

[@dataman6744]

Great story telling.

[@gutterfightsecrets]

thanks man

[@tomanderson848]

The history was really cool thanks. However, I still do not understand Brazilian differs from Japanese Jiu Jitsu?

[@gutterfightsecrets]

Tom Anderson thanks man, bjj is more ground fighting and way less throws and striking

[@GodCarnage]

Awesome thanks for the lesson

[@MegaHitman666]

There are many styles of Jalanese jujitsu , which sty.e you are tal,ing about ?

[@TonyPacenski]

What is your source that Kano did not allow Judo to be used for prizefighting so Judo need to be changed to Jiu Jitsu in the Americas?

[@BloodofPatriots]

He has no source. It's a fucking lie, like all the other bullshit that idiots like him lick out of gracie assholes.

[@TonyPacenski]

In the book, Mind Over Muscle, Kano's writings did express that he did not wish or want judo to be used for prizefighting.

[@miopera40]

every old japanese judo books says that, it was against the spirit to even charge a fee for teaching judo

[@shmvon]

@@miopera40 It was also the first lesson I got in JJJ: use this when not necessary and you're kicked out of the club right away. But to be fair, I believe this is what is taught in boxing clubs: good guys don't want to raise bad guys.

[@bundy4prez462]

One is Japanese and the other is Basically Just Judo newaza.

[@dukeflyingcow]

Judo newaza= basics of BJJ. As simple is that.

[@chriswilcox8977]

JuJutsu was never unarmed historically...samurai always had weapons, most old techniques are weapon transitions... everything in our koryu JuJutsu style comes from sword....strikes exist that work around armour, opening up places where you can strike, targeting weak points in the armour...

[@chriswilcox8977]

May be true if ninja's were real and not something brought to us by TV and unfortunately then considered real by most of the world. They never existed, not through use of the term ninja anyhow...

[@mongolchiuud8931]

"Jujutsu" and Taijutsu refers to the empty handed section of Bujutsu systems it doesnt refer to Weapons section...lol

[@shmvon]

@@mongolchiuud8931 Wasn't that the explanation for karate (= empty or naked hand)?

[@mongolchiuud8931]

@@shmvon Karate isnt a Japanese martial art, it was from Okinawa a former independent kingdom and vassal state of Ming China called Ryukyu or in LiuKiu(sp) Karate was Imported to Japan late in the 1920s by Shotokan founder Gichin funokoshi. Fun Fact Okinawan language is related to Japanese but its not mutually intelligible, its like English is to German(both Germanic language) but different languages none the less.

[@JuanMedina-ml1qx]

The last samurai was fiction lol

[@moefinesse9878]

5:44 Kano did not prohibit foreigners from learning judo. He wanted judo to be incorporated into the Olympics, which meant Kano wanted judo to be taught globally. Your statement needs to be corrected.

[@vittoriovedli4819]

Basically, Brazilian Ju Jitsu is not Ju Jitsu. It's a modified Judo.

[@daxmafesi]

Not bad but, There is no BJJ. All of the techniques that are in “bjj” are also found in Japanese judo and Jujitsu. There’s also little evidence that Carlos Gracie actually trained much with Maeda and he most likely trained with some other of Maedas pupils. Chadi KZbin channel documents all the moves we see today even berimbolos, leglocks etc back to Japan

[@debian8234]

Thank you japan

[@eoin0304]

Basically, Jiu Jitsu = Ancient Samurai hand to hand fighting style Judo = Jiu jitsu - danger Brazilian Jiu jitsu = Jiu jitsu + Judo + Wrestling + boxing

[@klub7justin]

Leathery SWAT full of shit, it has nothing to do with boxing.

[@nz4510]

Hahaha I love this narrator

[@LarryBrooks-cf9qp]

Pretty good video but some incorrect.

[@danielsherrer8223]

At this point Japanese this, Korean that, Brazilian this doesn't matter any more. The only thing that matters is what works.

[@raymondkolman1781]

Catch wrestling...that’s the difference...the end

[@justinallen1092]

BJJ= Catch holds and Judo holds..pretty much. Minus neck cranks, leg locks and body locks. If someone is proficient is both BJJ and Catch Wrestling, watch out.

[@majdikamal1389]

What is the jjj Ryu/s name that teaches grappling, ground fighting, punching and kicking ?

[@sapper168]

Sounds like Wado Ryu which is a combination of judo and Shotokan

[@garyharper4188]

Any half decent JJJ dojo will teach all of this and weapons as well.

[@primoluciano7852]

Mayeda got his nickname count koma in Spain not America

[@ranchlife8128]

Simple: The Gracies took JJJ, stripped all the crap out, tested it in real fights and created BJJ for nearing 100 years now. If you want to learn real effective self defence study BJJ. If you want to learn mostly philosophical techniques and something that might sometimes work on an untrained weak opponent then study JJJ.

[@lukesmith3654]

if you want to die fight a jjj guy,try your bjj techniques as im ripping your eyes out your balls off and breaking your limbs. Fuji Ryu Goshindo Jiu Jitsu is superior to bjj

[@avieus]

What do you call 2 rabbits engaged in martial arts? “Carrot-ai”

[@thunderkatz4219]

I do Japanese jiujitsu and my buddy does bjj

[@adamspice9076]

whats about karate

[@lesteryupingkun4292]

Tristar Gym = Firas Zahabi

[@joelsonsabado9206]

the art of jiu-jitsu is nothing brazilian at all, the base of bjj is jiu-jitsu, the japanese have perfected and are masters of the art for centuries brazilians merely adapted jiu-jitsu probably sometime last century ago

[@jimmyalderson1639]

It's a shame that there are only a handful of legit Jujutsu practitioners, and the rest are just either BS artists or people who don't understand the forms they teach. Thankfully, i don't think BJJ (or Judo) will ever have that problem because of the nature of modern documentation

[@angelobjj_2brothers477]

History is art suave...OSS

[@taylorbee4010]

Kano KAH NO KANNO

[@karthik_silkroads]

:by a guy named tristar gym" lol

[@teardropsonmyfallen]

Jui juitsu came from kung fu