GY6 High Performance Clutch Install / Chinese scooter / Lancer 150

End of the season is around the corner so I went on and installed my high performance clutch.
Clutch: amzn.to/2UlsB4m
Socket: amzn.to/2SnQEO0

[@TMFXLLC]

THANK YOU for showing the quick and dirty disassembly. I figured I needed to hold it shut but wasn't sure I needed a compressor tool. Everyone else's video is about swapping in a new clutch assembly.

[@kachiskid]

No problem.

[@ripemelon393]

Very detailed clutch install video, keep up the good work on producing high quality videos. Looking forward to the speed test.

[@kachiskid]

Thanks Ripe, I will get right on it (speed test) because I want to get that A9 cam and 61mm head on before the weather gets too bad.

[@omarsanroman8362]

Hi! Great video, and you explain great, what is the diference between this and the stock clutch? I mean in perfomance?

[@kachiskid]

Thanks Omar, as far as the clutch, I didn't do a before and after but it didn't add any speed. The springs make my bike shift into "2nd gear" around 38mph, when before it was much earlier.

[@andrewvoigt1133]

the springs and a paint job is the only difference between that clutch and stock. you can get the springs for about $10

[@williamanguyen]

Just wondering why did you choose red springs? I know they also have yellow and black but I never know what it does.

[@kachiskid]

The color represent different RPM ratings of the springs. The red is the stiffest one.

[@juliodiaz4493]

Thanks for your 🎥 now i now how to install a clutch

[@kachiskid]

No problem 👍 Glad I could help.

[@melindastrydom6916]

hi how are you i have a150cc gy6 scooter with 10g rollers my questions is what rpm clutch spring should i use

[@kachiskid]

Not bad Melinda. It really depends on what you want your scooter to do. The higher RPM springs are going to make your clutch engage later. It takes more pressure to push out. If your happy with your originals, why change?

[@robertengland9352]

Excellent video buddy

[@kachiskid]

Glad you enjoyed it.

[@reidairsofter]

When you put that variator fan back on you want to make sure you have enough slack in that belt to where the fan mounts to that metal collar.

[@kachiskid]

Well said.

[@michaelbearse4733]

Good shit mydude. Ours the same way I did mine.

[@kachiskid]

Thanks bro.

[@thomaso078]

great tip to put the clutch back on!

[@kachiskid]

Thanks bro..

[@gary3696]

@@kachiskid Is there a torque range to shoot for when you put the clutch back on? You're given lots of great tips on buildin up our scoots, thanks very much.

[@kachiskid]

@@gary3696 thanks for the compliment....Not sure of the torques ranges but I always knew I was going to change my final gearing when changing over to this current setup. Soon will be going to a 16/36 over the 13/40 that are bikes have. Also I haven't dropped my A9 cam in yet and still working with my A14, which in my mind increased my torque quite a bit but gives up at the end. I did notice that with the 2000 rpm spring, my "2nd" gear on the CVT kicks in around 40 mph, and just wants to go....I think the A14 is holding her back...of course this is all in theory... I just figured in building my bike, "go big or go home" and see what works and what doesn't.

[@reptiloidx8942]

@@kachiskid HEY YE ALL BITCHZ NOW TELL ME KNOW WHICH SPRING MAKE MY SCOOTA RUN FASTER 2000RPM OR HIGHER THE NUMBER LIKE 5000RPM ??? ALSO WHICH ONE IS SOFTER ?????

[@XSevenSonata]

I'm curious. I noticed your 2000RPM spring has seven coils. The product listing shows five coils. I've read that the shorter five coil springs are for 50cc to 80cc while the seven coils are for 125cc to 180cc. Most of the springs I'm finding online have the five coils, though.

[@kachiskid]

You my friend, are on point. I'm not really sure, something maybe a forum can answer.

[@XSevenSonata]

Haha okay, just wanted to make sure I get the right springs. I read that some people have noticed top end changes and some noticed torque changes. But, what I've found is that the longer seven coil springs have more compression, being for the 125cc to 180cc. I'm wondering if some merchants are just using stock images or people buying the wrong spring size. I'll see what I can find.

[@kachiskid]

@@XSevenSonata Bro, it absolutely makes sense. That is crazy that I didn't even notice, and just trusted the color. Now you got me thinking, I will check my older spring and update you what I find.

[@XSevenSonata]

Okay I give up lol. The only thing I could find from forums is that the wrong size can be used just fine, but, the results may be different. So a "50cc" 1500 for example gives a different result than a "150cc" 1500 depending on what it's being used on. You may find better results, but, that's all I can find is that the seven coil springs have a slightly higher compression. I still plan on playing around with the transmission, though. But, that's a puzzle.

[@XSevenSonata]

Okay. So what I found. The longer coil main spring (usually seven coils) is for 125cc - 180cc, the shorter spring (usually five coils) is for 50cc - 100cc. Both sizes apparently fit and useable, but, the longer coil spring will be more difficult to compress in a 50cc - 100cc because they have a small clutch. Longer spring has more compression. Aside from that, though. Results will vary if using a different spring size. A short spring shouldn't effect top end as much as a longer spring is being used in a 150cc considering less compression, however, it may not affect low end much, either. That's all I could find. Some merchants seem to be using stock images and showing the wrong spring size, so, I've just been checking with them to be sure before ordering. Unfortunately, they're out of stock and I have to wait. My plan is a stiffer spring and heavier weights to compensate. But, I wonder if that will cancel it out? I mean. Let's say for example. If I want more low end and use heavier weights with a stiffer spring to compensate top end loss, will the heavier weights basically reduce the low end from the stiffer springs so that theres no point in using stiffer springs?

[@andreavelez2292]

Excellent detailed video! Made my job so much easier. Had a little difficulty with the spring but all in all the job was done well. I also added an AC CPI I computer as well. Now I’m having an issue with the RPMs. I turn the throttle to go and the RPMs go into and stay in the red until I let the throttle go. What did I do wrong?!! I could really use some opinions at this point as I don’t want to blow the engine! Please help me! Thanks again.

[@andreavelez2292]

Btw The mechanic used used 3 10g and 3 12g in the variator! I think this part was 100% wrong but what do I know, I’m not a mechanic 😂

[@kachiskid]

Glad to hear the video helped. I'm sorry, AC CPI? What is that?

[@kachiskid]

No, that is a way to make 11g roller in the variator. As long as they were staggered. example: 1 10g, 1 12g, 1 10g, and so on. You will be a mechanic before long...lol.

[@andreavelez2292]

Kachi's Kid it’s a high performance computer to increase the speed, I believe

[@andreavelez2292]

Kachi's Kid but leaving them at 10g makes a faster speed, am I correct? Any thoughts why the rpms are now in the red when the throttle is engaged?

[@andyproctor3588]

I noticed on your video bro looks like you removed all of the kickstart shaft and gears was that hard to do I'm not sure if you have a video on that or not just wondering👍 looks like possibly I might be getting a little Christmas present from my girl and I really would like to get rid of that ugly kickstart everything but I don't get to talk to you again Happy Thanksgiving brother

[@kachiskid]

Yeah my kick starter was awful from the beginning, very easy to remove but I don't have a video on it. Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours also. When you get a chance check out my Desoto video, left you something on there.

[@pshivjee]

I find it hard, it's a headache. You only need a good battery and a Excellent Regulator to keep the battery healthy and you are good to Go. 👍

[@abrahamx1]

Love video, thx, nice clucth

[@kachiskid]

Thanks abrahamx1.

[@magnus4381]

say this o all of you,lay a carwheel over the hole clutch.when the nut should off/on.so much easier.

[@kachiskid]

I would have to see this done. Has anyone ever filmed this process?

[@Roland-Henry]

Hey buddy, have been low on upgrade funds as of late so rather than purchasing an entire new clutch like I wanted, I purchased and installed a complete set of Glixal red 2000rpm springs on my stock clutch last night. I’ve only street-tested it for about half an hour last night but I’m experiencing jerking or surges (unsure of the correct term) during initial takeoff from 0 to say 5 or 10 mph. For example pulling out onto a street from a parking lot it starts smooth for a second then mid turn jerks or wants to take off and is pretty scary as any type of speed increase in mid turn can be dangerous (3 wreck track record lol). Thanks for any advice you or anyone else can offer.

[@kachiskid]

Was the 2000 rpm contra spring included? Or just clutch springs?

[@Roland-Henry]

Kachi's Kid all 4.

[@kachiskid]

@@Roland-Henry darn brother, that's not good... I assume the clutches are the same but I don't really know there's something special with that clutch that I have. You didn't have a problem getting the little springs set? Hearing any weird noises coming from the clutch?

[@Roland-Henry]

Kachi's Kid yeah was a pain in the @$$! But finally got them set without taking off that top plate with the 3 little c-clips I don’t have nay doubts on the install. Just wondering what could be wrong I’m guessing something with the clutch itself, obviously not the springs. Will keep searching and trying things brotha that’s all we can do sometimes with these. Most times.

[@kachiskid]

Right, sorry about that Roland.

[@akivahaimov7370]

Which NM rechargeable impact wrench should i buy so i can open and close such a 38 mm nut ..? thank you ..

[@kachiskid]

I'm a fan of Milwaukee, but anyone of them should be able to remove the nut.

[@Broughtvulture]

I have a GY6 QMB139, it starts but won't move. One of the springs on my clutch is broken. Would one broken spring really cause it to not move or do you think it's another issue? I don't know whether to get new clutch or look else whether for the problem. Motorcycle starts and idles normally, just won't move motorycycle.

[@kachiskid]

Any damage to your clutch and it needs to be replaced. It will just get worst from here if not replaced. Does the engine rev. high like normal when twisting the throttle?

[@Broughtvulture]

@@kachiskid Yeah, it revs like normal. Adjusting the the idle speed works like normal and changes the rev speed as well. I'm going to order a new clutch now, thank you for your input.

[@kachiskid]

@@Broughtvulture Anytime.

[@Alexxx95_H]

Hi! Is there some bigger factory variator from other maxi scooter that fits to GY6 150cc with or without modification?

[@kachiskid]

Biggest one I could fine so far. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rH3ag6d5ZaifndE Of course not factory though.

[@juliodiaz4493]

Question I pull that same thing on my bike today in my belt doesn't fit what you got you got

[@kachiskid]

The belt has to fit if it's an 835 or 842.

[@pshivjee]

How much cc is this Engine ? One of the amazon's link don't work.

[@kachiskid]

I have this combo on a 180cc. works for 150cc also. I will check on the link.

[@XSevenSonata]

You have any idea of torque for the clutch nut? I think I've been torquing too much.

[@kachiskid]

Sorry but I don't.

[@XSevenSonata]

I noticed more and more over time when I remove the clutch to swap springs, It's been more difficult to put the nut back on. I'm thinking the threads are stripped. I ordered a replacement, hopefully that works. I can't get the nut on at the moment even with no contra. Weird.

[@kachiskid]

@@XSevenSonata How many times have you swapped out the spring? I really don't think they are made to keep taking off. Do you have the upgraded clutch or the stock?

[@XSevenSonata]

Upgraded and stock clutch. I did try the stock just in case. But, I figured with the nut actually threading onto the pulley shaft and not the clutch, it might not have helped to try the stock. It didn't, though. Then I tries stock spring for less tension. That didnt help, but, again, even with no spring, the nut just won't seem to go on the pulley shaft. It just keeps spinning around. I've swapped springs maybe about five times trying to find which is best for me. The 2000 was nice, but, unfortunately I ride on streets that need more top end, so, that's when I decided to go with a lighter spring.

[@kachiskid]

@@XSevenSonata Just hope it's not stripped. Can you send pics to [e-mail] I would like to see exactly what your talking about.

[@juliodiaz4493]

My belt doesn't fit I put that same thing today on my bike 2000 RPM with a performance clutch and the belt that don't fit

[@kachiskid]

What size is the belt?

[@juliodiaz4493]

I bought a performance clutch do i have to change the spark plug when i install the new clutch

[@kachiskid]

No need to change the spark plug.

[@perfectcell7995]

Hey you should check out the new clutch by reveno rolling wrench has a video on it

[@kachiskid]

Yeah, I checked it out when he first released it. Way to expensive for this channel. $350, nah. I really like Matt and Rolling Wrench but I can't afford his pricing. Plus showing it on a 232cc engine is a little misleading, engine doing most of the work. Hope is a budget build, most expensive thing on her is the Taida 171cc engine.

[@kachiskid]

​@Minimalistic Van Living ncystore.com/taida-cylinder-61mm-171cc-big-bore-kit-cast-piston-fit-54mm-gy6?search=Taida%2061mm&description=true amzn.to/2AUq5wt I got this for $30. amzn.to/2XGo1jJ - $13 Non EGR cover - not sure, but paid no more than $15

[@forestbucher276]

What size sliders weights did you use and would size 15 or 14 slider weights would be too heavy

[@kachiskid]

Went up from 13 gram rollers to 14 gram sliders. 15,14 should be fine.

[@forestbucher276]

@@kachiskid Cool thanks you I like your blog and all the videos you do bro keep up the good work 👍👍🙏🙏 what is your present top speed and what was your top speed before you put your big bore kit in bro

[@kachiskid]

I hit 53 on flat ground before the big bore install. Now I'm in the 58-60 range. But haven't done an official speed run with the upgrades. It will have to wait until next season, ran out of time.

[@forestbucher276]

@@kachiskid had you had any problems going with a higher RPM spring

[@kachiskid]

Nope, not at all. Not a big difference that I noticed from that, but only have about 200 miles on it.

[@smartcode5856]

Hello 2005 HYOSUNG working but not moving and become hot what is the problem?

[@kachiskid]

Bro, are you kidding or 4 real? I need a whole lot more info than that...working but not moving?

[@smartcode5856]

@@kachiskid @@kachiskid it is real but my english didnot help I mean start is working the engen Works but when I give gas it is not moving the tair and the speed signal thnx bro I will send an video

[@kachiskid]

@@smartcode5856 Sorry about that Rooney, if you post a video I will be able to help. Have you checked to see if your belt has snapped. What language do you speak as primary? I can translate it.

[@smartcode5856]

@@kachiskid thank you bro kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpbGiJWPp999adk I speak Kurdish Arabic and Dutch but my english also very good some time I do not have good words

[@kachiskid]

Your English is very good, I wish I could speak all those languages. Let me know what you find out with your belt.

[@juliodiaz4493]

How you press on that red spring that hard

[@kachiskid]

Yeah, had to use all my body weight. Took a minute but worth it.

[@juliodiaz4493]

Want performance clutch can I use in my 150

[@kachiskid]

amzn.to/357PVJM

[@rayearthmoto4234]

I didnt notice your flyballs.

[@kachiskid]

flyballs?

[@botzgod1076]

Where is the speed run for the new High Performance clutch

[@kachiskid]

It's coming, I have been really busy. I will get on it when I come back from Florida.

[@rankontop5041]

I want to see that to should have made that same night or something.

[@DrBoomalicious]

What size is the belt bro or some one tell me

[@kachiskid]

835-20-30

[@empireofdirtworkshop4304]

Those stock clutches suck so much, mine just went out on me at 3500km haha

[@kachiskid]

Whoa. Yeah I have never seen one actually break until "virberello" showed his had broken into 3 pieces.

[@keith23uk]

That is real quick to go! Was you thrashing it?

[@kachiskid]

@@keith23uk on this one I didn't replace anything because it went wrong. I want an upgraded clutch in a 2000 RPM spring.

[@kachiskid]

@@keith23uk sorry Keith I thought you were talking to me.

[@JQUICK21]

That clutch no longer sold at amazon

[@kachiskid]

Yeah they keep a low stock, I had the same problem, but waited about 2 weeks and it became available. I saved it in my Amazon list and it told be when it was back in stock.

[@kenneyandrade2261]

Its back!!!!

[@HDMotorProduction]

I use this video to c how u dismantled the clutch... specifically the size of the socket to remove the nut, but everything else is done poorly. For instant, your solonoid is about to b finished. N plz don’t tell me with all of these tools u don’t have a clutch compressor tool. Also did u know that Goofit sells these HP clutch, exactly this one with 2000 RPM for 59 bucks on amazon?

[@kachiskid]

Bro, my solenoid is fine, and I have another one ready to go. No clutch compressor tool, don't need one, on and off with an impact. I like Goofit but this one has the perforated holes on the side of the clutch bell. Either way, I'm happy with mine, and she runs like a champ. Wait your a "GY6 Pro" and don't know the size of the clutch nut....hmmm. Well at least you learned something.

[@HDMotorProduction]

Kachi's Kid I focus on more stability not High Performance. Where you would follow tutorial to go faster, I just make sure I have the right clearance, the right gap plug, my oil is at 7.5 mm mark, and all of my parts are working new flawless. Never needed to replace my clutch because if you don’t notice, the stock clutch is at 1500 RPM with 13g rollers. Picks up slow but gave u the highest top-end. When the engine is hot enough it picks up too fast n gave u the best performance. With the 2000 RPM u r making the clutch bell rotating at a greater capacity then because it focuses only to give u FTW it doesn’t gave u the top speed let’s say 60+ on flat surface, rather u struggle at 53, n barely make it 55.

[@kachiskid]

David, I hear you, but why are you hating on aftermarket parts? I bought this bike to replace pretty much everything. I went to the 2000 rpm spring and clutch because I will be changing my final gearing later. Let the high performance guys shine, what kinda views are you getting on just keeping your bike stock? Plus I'm over here helping others!!! I'm about to build a pocket bike that hits 45 or 50mph. You don't have to like it but my people love it!

[@HDMotorProduction]

Kachi's Kid a long time ago I used to make videos here on gamings so I c where u r coming from. Original content to share to Utube to attract subscribers n audience... way to go! I like stocks because stocks is more effective than after market. Example of the a stock long pipe exhaust on a GY6 150cc scooter. It lasts longer than any after market u would buy. Some after market would have poor design for u to modified, weak metal brackets, etc...

[@kachiskid]

Agreed! But in the same time you won't really know if you don't try, right? Plus the fact that the original parts are Chinese and sometimes can be garbage too. For example, we both know my stater clutch went way to early, that is when we 1st started chatting. No way anyone is gonna tell me that their Chinese engine is better than my Taiwanese Tadia engine. Parts are to reasonable also, it's a TRAP...lol.

[@juliodiaz4493]

I want a racing clutch

[@kachiskid]

Glixal makes a pretty good one, I'm hearing. I sent you the link.

[@perfectcell7995]

Lol I own the same kobalt impact

[@kachiskid]

Mine is Milwaukee, and that big electric sucker is a Hammerhead name-brand. Kobalt makes some good tools too.

[@perfectcell7995]

@@kachiskid oh lol the one you use @3:45 looks very similar to my kobalt

[@reptiloidx8942]

HEY YE ALL BITCHZ NOW TELL ME KNOW WHICH SPRING MAKE MY SCOOTA RUN FASTER 2000RPM OR HIGHER THE NUMBER LIKE 5000RPM ??? ALSO WHICH ONE IS SOFTER ?????

[@kachiskid]

1000, 1500, 2000rpm springs. I have never heard of a 5000. The lower the number the softer they are. Not really a help on speed, just when your clutch takes you to (2nd) gear. Mine kicks in around 38mph with the 2000rpm spring.

[@reptiloidx8942]

@@kachiskid FUK SHIT BITCHZ I JUSS PUT A 10GRAM ROLLERS AND SCOOTER WENT BACK TO 91KM/H FUKRS SO I NEED A LIGHTER ROLLERZ TO SPEED DA FUK UP BITCHZ ......

[@lpz3665]

Dont ride in a cars blind spot. Very unhealthy

[@kachiskid]

Sometimes not in my control, same can happen in a car. Gotta keep you head on a swivel at all times.

[@lpz3665]

@@kachiskid just pretend you're invisible. Good job kid. 40yr ride

[@kachiskid]

@@lpz3665 Thanks for even caring, brother... 40 more coming to ya.