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[@mumei178]

Passion Flare's aoe is smaller, also pretty lucky you didn't get the small flare bug lol

[@1TieDye1]

What’s the small aoe bug?

[@mumei178]

@@1TieDye1 it's just a bug where if you do a cast replace on beowulf the new flare will have the same size as the original no cast boon flare. There are other ways you can get it.

[@Haelian]

Whoopsy, totally thought it was bigger than Flood. TALLY A MISTAKE.

[@nnevic]

Selling attack can also trigger tiny flare

[@nnevic]

The other issue with passion flare is it doesn’t shoot through walls, so it can be quite a bit worse in Styx between smaller AOE and losing some good setups.

[@chanlekho]

Audience in Elysium are asking for refund of their tickets, because the show only lasted for 6 seconds.

[@kossinox]

He was just nervous, okay? It has never happened to him before

[@justinpeters8494]

That's quite a lot of seconds. Maybe even too many seconds.

[@davidthompson9504]

By far my favorite aspect. Took me ages to learn (for speedruns) not to instantly load all three casts ESPECIALLY with trippy shot just to smoke one witch into oblivion, and then wait like an idiot for 5 seconds and lose time.

[@justarandomdood]

the Elysium witch room might be the funniest thing I've seen in a Hades run so far, I've had that happen to me once but I think I was on the bow so it didn't matter as much haha nice stuff, I've done some runs with Beowulf and I knew of its potential but I've never realize it could be this good, I might practice it properly now. Nice stuff bro!

[@littlebumgorf]

I am slowly getting 32 heat on all my weapons but I’m still super slow, my fastest time is 15 minutes. Watching you play I think I’m bad at dodging attacks and grouping enemies together as I attack. With beo specifically i often load up all casts when I only need to load 1. when I dodge I run too far away from the casts and lose time chasing after the casts

[@pumbaa667]

23:40 That some specific knowledge ! Thanks for sharing

[@TreyDubya]

I've loved these recent videos of focusing on specific, fun builds. I often go and try it on my own and have a great time.

[@84SuperBeast]

the special being cursed was the icing on the terrible cake

[@lukefitton7329]

The shield is just the best in general imo. So damn good.

[@muditatrey6295]

The cat on the sub button gave me a jumpscare, I thought it was a spider on my screen

[@Williwumms]

Beowulf was actually my first weapon where I hit 32 heat, using a similar build with flood shot and its consistency really makes it one of the best aspects imo

[@zacharyvega233]

Friend and lover! That witch fiasco was hilarious. They wanted no parts in attempting to stop you from escaping.

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

Ironically, though, they ended up doing him more damage than any other individual enemies in the run, just because of the throwaway Chaos boon

[@kdot9527]

lets get saucy actually made me subscribe. I just started watching your content. thanks for making it!

[@verdethestarwarrior1088]

4:01 Somehow I never knew that Bouldy increases your Obol gain

[@seandever5761]

I'm gonna try this build for sure. Crazy damage. Also I get the hesitation on rebinding keys. I like it for certain aspects and builds though like aspect of hestia I rebound reload to my side mouse button. Can be useful but is weird.

[@seandever5761]

Also thank you for explaining dads keepsake I was disappointed at first.

[@screwtokaiba]

Haelian calling this a Special run when hes using Attack and Cast SMH my head The surprisingly fun part of Beo is the Charge Shot lite property where the Bull Rush would do its max 50 damage regardless of how long you charged it. Beo definitely follows the other Hidden Aspect idea of being a "heavy weapon" in feel but that change singlehandedly make it the most fluid shield in practice(at least without Charge Shot on the other 3 aspects) since you can Dash Attack -> Charge some wide reaching high damage. On a related note Its also kinda funny how for how iconic of an ability Boiling Blood is in the game, the arguable 2 best aspect(Hera and Beowulf) have an innate ability that in a way, reads "disables/weakens Boiling Blood". I get that Beowulf weapon upgrade basically exists to more than compensate for losing Boiling Blood, but its kinda funny how it works out that way

[@Stormnado_]

Ive been stuggling with cast weapons so much, honestly the keybind tip is the only reason I managed to get a semi decent run today

[@Kufunninapuh]

It feels like it's gonna take some time to get used to the button remapping after hundreds of attempts already but I still haven't gotten a sub 10 time and this is quite convincing. I have never first boss in close to 2 minutes and never ever have I been remotely close to beating her in 10 seconds. Yelp

[@Haelian]

You got this.

[@GayToad1157]

i completed the benefits package quest in 3 runs which was shocking to me.

[@gunfugames7430]

Just beaten heat 32 with beowulf first attempt playing aspect for first time. Charged flight, heartbreak flourish, flood flare. No movement boon from hermes was pain in hades fight...

[@SammyEsq]

The "witch fiasco" had me laughing hard, never seen something like that before!

[@mlepcha890]

I just started Hades a week ago. Bought it on sale. Best decision ever. Obsessed. Eagerly waiting for 2

[@Omnicloud7strife]

Sorry, I blinked. Gonna watch the video again. I had a similar run to this the other day, but I only had common Passion Flare. :C Dealt like 220 damage at 7 or 8 poms.

[@Marcus-oj9xw]

Tried this run tonight. Didn't end up using Hades keepsake, but had a lucky run. Got Mirage Shot by end of Tart, Rush Delivery by end of Asphodel. Got +1 cast and +attack from Chaos (was able to use multiple rerolls on Chaos cast), Epic Ravenous Will, Zeus call and Jolted. I didn't get Sea storm or a way to proc P Status, but got an overall personal record of 9:35 with mid execution. My previous PR was Eris at 9:39 and then 10:02 with Beowulf. Btw Beowulf is the only aspect with which I've cleared 40 heat. Thanks for the content. Edit: I should've used Family Favorite for this Poseidon-Artemis build, though if I would'e gotten Aphrodite cast like Dan did, or if I would gotten Rupture, Privileged Status would've been better.

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

Is Ravenous Will even a good boon with Beowulf? I assumed that having all your bloodstones loaded into the shield didn't count as being out of them, but I must be wrong if it's worth taking

[@Marcus-oj9xw]

@@Nat_the_Chicken I believe it counts as being out as it says 0/3 stones. I was forced to take Demeter and wanted Snow Burst but settled for Epic Ravenous Will as it wasn't worth rerolling

[@freezestyle13]

11:07 what is the point of going out of your way and paying to fill the god pool? Wouldn't a fourth god just organically come up as a room reward and you can take it at that point? Like in first room of Elysium, you just pick "not a desirable god". Hoping I make sense

[@KokaKolaMusic]

If your pool isn't full, you're gonna keep being offered god boons until you fill em. Same way "fill a slot" is sound logic if you're looking for tier 2 or legendary boons-they can't offer you ares attack if you already have another attack boon

[@1TieDye1]

Filling the god pool increases the chance of seeing gods that are in your pool. Like, if you are at 3/4 gods you are at an increased chance to see a new god vs one of the 3 you have

[@Haelian]

Someone already said it but at that point, you kind of want to fill the pool since it increases the odds of seeing gods you already have boons from after. Otherwise, it's more likely to keep getting offered new gods. We didn't really want boons from any other gods that who we already saw so it made sense to just fill it. It's a VERY minor strat for a little fun run like this though. It would be more important if we didn't have Mirage Shot already.

[@GayToad1157]

dude this was uploaded 8 mins ago and theres sooo many comments. anyways im probably gonna absolutely grind out my new save before hades 2 comes out also im pretty new to this game started about a month ago and absolutely loving it and the community.

[@sajanramanathan]

WE RIDE AT DAWN

[@niyalune]

I see I should use Passion Flare more often. What are your thoughts on settling for an Epic Greater Haster (40%) for the first Hermes, especially if you're low on rolls ? It stills unlocks Rush Delivery, although of course the extra damage is only 20-40% unless you get well items - but it's consistently up, which I find convenient on Beowulf and some other aspects.

[@KokaKolaMusic]

Settling, maybe. The problem is rushed delivery isn't always 100% damage, so it's a pretty huge nerf from 50% (or more) extra damage to 20% and 40% at absolute best. Part of the strength of beo is you don't usually need very many boons, so you can spend all your rolls trying to get hyper sprint instead. Personally, I'd take +1 dashes over epic haste, because it gives a bit more maneuverability (and can stack damage with splash dash much easier, or get more reflects with Athena). You don't get the damage of rush delivery, but you have more maneuverability and utility with other parts of the kit to make up some damage. Also, personally haste makes my muscle memory go off. I'm used to moving a set speed, and suddenly going faster can throw off some of the moves I'm used to, but that's just me.

[@Haelian]

Agree with this, would probably take +1 dash over Haste if no Hyper Sprint.

[@nnevic]

+1 is decent movement and beo can scale off of wells/chaos so it’s a lot less RD reliant than others aspects. Playing IGT I probably take epic haste over +1 but not +2, but it really depends on the day.

[@Haelian]

@@vetbaitednv You get the bonus immediately when taking the +dash, whereas you'd have to wait for Rush Delivery (and hope it even appears) after sitting on Greater Haste. I imagine the speedrun community would have split opinions on this, chalk it up to personal preference.

[@Mochila03]

I know you did Meme Beam just a few months ago, but I'm really curious how Arctic Blast holds up with the dps meter. In that run it was triggering multiple times per second for 100dmg a pop on dad.

[@TheB0sss]

I think sudden rush is good with beowulf, but the annoying part is that i dont like it together with charged shot, it just charges too fast, especially against hades when youre close to him a lot on EM4. But that makes taking sudden rush as a consolation when you get the first hammer is risky, what if you get charged shot on the second one lol

[@HerMi.T]

Try to fire it as quickly as you charge. It is actually pretty good because casts in Beowulf has very huge area of effect.

[@nnevic]

Sudden + Cshot is pretty good outside of bosses. In heroes/dad I do think some specific practice is needed to make the most at it, and I didn’t take sudden in my most recent pb because it only really saves times in ely rooms + Styx

[@Imjustsaint]

I suck so bad using Beowulf its insane! I am trying to clear 32 heat and its like i am a beginner all over again i cant deal enough damage and i feel so slow smh

[@Radi0ActivSquid]

For whatever reason I still can't use Beowulf despite weeks of practice. I'm CONSTANTLY taking hits with it. I think it's the slowness of the weapon that's doing tremendous damage to my play. I can't get used to the slow swing of the lack of offense when the shield is flying around.

[@gijsvandergracht8000]

Hey I have a question. Why would you not take epic Hydraulic Might at 15:40? +75% damage in the first 10 sec sounds amazing in a build where you just butchered asterius in 6 seconds... Is BW or TF really better than HM at that stage?

[@Haelian]

HM only effects Attack and Special damage, if it helped Cast damage it would be an instant take. Otherwise, Breaking Wave much more convenient.

[@magusto627]

16:46 It's a nightmare everytime I play this game. I'm so bad lol

[@laurenzhacker5742]

Hey Dan! Have been watching your vids for a long time and got my first 32 heat clear with beo. With hera bow you always talk about the importance of snow burst - wouldn‘t you want it for beo too? Cheers!

[@Haelian]

It's definitely good with Beowulf but the aspect already has a natural AoE with how the cast bursts, something that Hera lacks. So just not as important and the priority shifts to Mirage Shot.

[@soraearth]

Does mirage shot/poseidon keepsake work also on hera? I've always used aphro for hera

[@1TieDye1]

Do you mean the double damage from mirage shot+beo? If so, that doesn’t work on hera unfortunately

[@Haelian]

Aphro feels better on Hera but Poseidon is still ok really. Mirage Shot works as intended on Hera and isn't bugged though.

[@ter9799]

new vid idea: maybe do a room tier list on what room to choose, for example s tier room could be mid shop, story room etc, f tier room could be darkness, basically outlining the room preference if player want to hit lvl3 deadline, which is a pact of punishment that is forced to take in higher heat, or just to be quick in general

[@lvparm]

Is 9.23 a decent time for a non speed runner?

[@EL7OOT410]

Great speed run man, can you tell us any good build with Demeter I like the freeze mechanic but i don't know how to do a proper build

[@Haelian]

Beams

[@henriquecruzdasilva8398]

Can I apply more than one aspect in a weapon or does I need to choose between them? And, if I can apply more than one, wich ones does I need to avoid to not miss the hidden aspects?

[@Haelian]

One aspect can be used at a time but you can unlock and upgrade all of them. You can't miss aspects, order doesn't really matter.

[@henriquecruzdasilva8398]

@@Haelian Alright then, thank you so much. Now I can play without worring about making things the wrong way.

[@probsamari]

If you want to pause the timer after a thanatos room just open the codex

[@muhammadsyafiiq7203]

I used to think artemis cast is the best just coz of the crit. Now I'm curious Why ppl prefer poseiden's or other's over hers? Genuine question

[@Haelian]

Artemis' cast has bad scaling with poms and a much smaller AoE when using Beowulf. Without Beowulf, Artemis' cast has a hard time competing against casts that have some kind of AoE effect like Trippy Shot or Flood Shot.

[@ibrahimbeats]

at the Elysium mini-boss door would it not have been worth it to go for Artemis over Poseidon to fish for the legendary? or is it just too rare?

[@Haelian]

Woops, I'm going to guess I didn't consider it but I can't remember. Not sure what we had from Artemis at that point but we'd have to get Pressure Points and Support Fire in order to just get offered the legendary so the odds were low no doubt but worth considering.

[@NaniMasaka34]

Crazy build but couldn't you have tried to go for Arty legendary at 15:00

[@cardigan.d]

Dan should I get chocolate or vanilla ice cream tonight

[@Haelian]

Vanilla always

[@cardigan.d]

@@Haelian my man 🍦

[@NKCubed]

why do you never collect gemstone, is it just for speed? or like out of spite? 😆

[@Haelian]

Have no need for them now.

[@NKCubed]

@@Haelian isn't it the same for darkness, or is it just you gotta pick one of them up

[@Haelian]

@@NKCubedYou have to pick up the Darkness to leave, not the gems.

[@NKCubed]

@@Haelian 🧠

[@Slowrunner33]

what is the difference between flares and shots?

[@greenbeentm6051]

Doesn't ferocious guard increase speed as well? Good for rush delivery at least, right?

[@greenbeentm6051]

@@vetbaitednv but it stacks with ignited icore

[@greenbeentm6051]

@@vetbaitednv cool

[@nnevic]

Wooooooo beo my beloved

[@vellichor7676]

I suck with Beowulf haha. I have a 7min52sec record with the Eris Rail and low times with the other weapons, but gracious, my Beowulf is so slow. Feels so clunky, doesn't run smoothly... Does anyone else have this sort of experience? I see others getting crazy fast times with it and wonder what I'm doing wrong haha.

[@Nat_the_Chicken]

@littlebumgorf above said the following: "I am slowly getting 32 heat on all my weapons but I’m still super slow, my fastest time is 15 minutes. Watching you play I think I’m bad at dodging attacks and grouping enemies together as I attack. With beo specifically i often load up all casts when I only need to load 1. when I dodge I run too far away from the casts and lose time chasing after the casts" You may have read this already, but I figured there was a chance it could be helpful insight for you

[@reign7517]

i cant seem to be able to load the casts while charging for some reason :(

[@KokaKolaMusic]

Double check your controls and mirror loadout. If you have casts available, you can load them at literally any time, including while you're mid-bull rush

[@dominiktroc4287]

Why you want survival room in Tartarus? Isn't this slowing you down with those 45 seconds of fighting?

[@Haelian]

The in game timer pauses during those rooms.

[@Kahmie]

What’s the wonky build based on the special??

[@Haelian]

Charged Flight hammer and just spam it from really far away basically. I probs got a vid around here.

[@Kahmie]

@@Haelian thank youuuuu

[@eheveronsmith]

Alright you can kill bosses fast… but how long do you think you could stretch out a boss fight?? Would that be too easy to be fun or funny? Like would you have to give yourself some conditions- no damage taken, something like that? I think it would be hilarious to watch and see how long one could run around and avoid damage.

[@Haelian]

I did something like that one stream once, survived against dad for like 10 minutes but it wasn't particularly interesting lol.

[@eheveronsmith]

😂hah yeah I guess it would get old fast!@@Haelian

[@prronce]

Why is it that you never grab gems?

[@Haelian]

Haven't needed them in a long time.

[@prronce]

@@Haelian but like... shiny?

[@AndroidN17]

In your opinion, is beating 32 heat for the first time using beowulf and abusing the glitch with mirage shot still count as a win? Should you be satisfied with the win or do you think you would get more out of the game if you didn't abuse it.

[@DoppelgangerTH]

They didn't patch it so it's legit. If your gamer sense thinks it's unfair, then don't do it. It's a single player game, you should enjoy it whatever way you want. Don't look for validation from someone else.

[@KokaKolaMusic]

"is beating the game using the mechanics of the game valid, or are you only a real player if you do boonless, upgradeless, 32 heat zag sword on a DDR mat while getting assaulted by pigeons" - this is what you sound like my guy

[@AndroidN17]

@DoppelgangerAg @KolaKolaMusic Yeah, I agree with your guys points. It shouldn't define your fun or take away from anyone's win. Was just curious about what people thought about it.

[@Haelian]

It's fine, it's not so busted that it makes it somehow illegitimate. It's still not that popular of a weapon for beating 32 heat for the first time despite the oversight.

[@LOLFLUSHDRAW]

hey helian really enjoy your shit, i dont often have time to watch streams but your hades youtube videos are on point and cant wait for hades 2 content

[@kenseki6893]

POV: you play Hades on Mobile

[@mrflowa5148]

imagine using a controller

[@mike_d10]

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