Haleyybaylee and the Importance of (Faking) Humility

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Haleyybaylee/Haley Kalil started the viral #Blockout2024 with four words, completely by accident. While Haleyybaylee saying "Let them eat cake" would appear harmless, it has led to celebrities losing millions of followers overnight. And as Haleybaylee tries to move on from the drama, a huge conversation has been sparked about the role of celebrities in our society.
This is a commentary video discussing the recent Met Gala drama from Haleyybaylee.
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[@t1meless784]

been watching for a awhile and i just got to say your hair is insane in a good way I'm also growing out my hair (also i know its random but being nice is free)

[@mirasdiary]

signed up! been needing this anyways lol

[@everyoneelsemovedonfan]

Only the rich pay for the met gala and only the rich get paid from the met gala

[@liliruby6]

your cat is everything

[@LiterallyAli.]

HECKLER??

[@Zeldafan1ify]

she casually spends 204k a year on rent. If she calls herself normal, then what am I, when I can't even afford 900 a month?

[@aashanabhandari]

Poor, like the rest of us

[@Homer-OJ-Simpson]

She was married to an nfl player and couldn’t pay for the rent herself so her ex paid the remainder of the lease. U guys are disgusting

[@elenik845]

@@Homer-OJ-Simpson that is even more disgusting. she does not need a 17k apartment she cannot even afford

[@Diorsvmz]

It’s rent. Everyone who has a house pays it like a normal person

[@Emma_the_cutest]

IT'S NOT HER FAULT THAT YOUR POOR. IT'S NOT HER FAULT THAT SHE IS RICH. there are tons of people rich like her but people insult her. also the 'let's block celebrity' trend was so dumb. ya'll are just jealous

[@Lilmisscostumedrama]

It’s INSULTING that these rich people say we don’t work hard enough. I am educated with a degree. I work up to 60 hrs a week and STILL only just have enough for mortgage, bills, food and the occasional take-away. That’s it. No car. No holidays. Only just afford my face creams once every 4months.

[@Melodymovess]

You don't work smart enough

[@PrincesaYonna]

why does face creams matter? that's whats wrong with people now days, materialistic af

[@PrincesaYonna]

@tata-yo9id yes but at the end of the day, they're really not important, material things are always gonna be there. i get why the face creams now, but don't want something u don't need, put it towards stuff u could actually need. like food, water, tissue, medicine.

[@frightenedbreath8419]

​@@PrincesaYonnaim sorry but can you read?

[@innitbruv-lascocomics9910]

​@@PrincesaYonna why have a smartphone then? Follow your own advice

[@tinaandro1178]

This touches on an even darker truth: "It's expensive to be poor". Somehow we stumbled into a system where the comfortable and wealthy have resources and get a lot of things for free, while the poor are taken advantage of and pay more. There was a study made by some university students that showed grocery stores in affluent areas had cheaper prices than the ones in poor ones- I think it was the US but this happens word wide: there was an experiment made by a Chinese student that showed she lived pretty comfortably without having to spend money in Hotels , airports, stores, etc because she looked wealthy and no one bothered her + received a lot of free stuff.

[@emyyoung6629]

this! society hates poor people.

[@somegirl21]

Very interesting and very true! Thanks for sharing

[@fizruk7644]

yeah i saw the chinese girl's video ure talkn abt it's pretty insane actually

[@alex-hc3sk]

@@fizruk7644whats her name??

[@faithtomorrow]

Hmm I may look into this theory for myself. If I could find my groceries cheaper in the affluent areas then hallelujah!

[@el7dian]

Nobody needs influencers,models, celebrities etc etc. Start following and supporting people who actually do something and contribute to society...

[@hdniicmiodcmfn]

Yes!

[@katelynholmes9504]

Or you could do both

[@fab_code]

yes you dont need movies, shows, entertainment, business, governments. list goes on buddy. you sure you dont want that??

[@el7dian]

@@fab_code you cannot put on the same list an actor with a scientist for example. It's another thing to watch a movie with a favorite actor to pass the time and another thing to put that person on a pedestal and follow/copy what they are doing. Many people unfortunately do the later... A celebrity eats something or wears something and people flock to mimic them. That has to stop.

[@fab_code]

@@el7dian you do realise that its not the celebrities but the followers and fans at fault here right?? and celebrities just use that to make money, its like banks having interests. if no one deposits and take loans, well bank aint gonna work. so people should stop obsessing. unfortunately thats the hard part

[@maryalicefike4704]

while i don’t think hailey should be as big a focus as she’s become, saying i’m not an elite while paying 17,000 A MONTH is crazy ☠️.

[@elif6908]

I’m not saying this to defend anyone but in the grand scheme of things, she is not. Both her and her husband are entertainers of some kind, and while they have the money from my understanding they don’t have the connections or the relationships they need to be ‘an elite’ in their field. If and when they have reached the position of decision making, then they will be ‘an elite’, they’re simply spectacles now.

[@YungM.D.]

@@elif6908yeah I agree there’s definitely tiers. She’s certainly above the average person’s wealth and influence, but she’s not like Kendall Jenner or Bella Hadid. She doesn’t have that kind of industry power, even as a model

[@amatullah4819]

as a native nyer but from a low income neighborhood that made me start tweaking ngl.

[@elif6908]

@@YungM.D.I’m not sure even the names you’ve put forward have that kind of power. The career of an entertainer is decided by external actors, the directors, producers, executives. Even when they make ungodly amounts of money it’s possible that they were the most amiable to those external actors thus rewarded for it. But those rewards can be taken back in an instant as long as they’re not the ones making decisions.

[@Randomly1234]

I genuinely do not understand why this is an issue to begin with. Who cares? Compared to the A list celebrities she's a nobody and she's well aware of that. So are we. Then why do we have to pretend like we don't understand that there are different stages of wealth and that wealthy doesn't mean "elite"? She made TikTok showing how proud she was of her dress and playing into the rich girl character, so what? This is the most ridiculous thing that ever managed to become controversial. Ridiculous!

[@ixedtea5302]

"Im not elite, i'm a normal person." She lives in an apartment worth $17k( the rent is 17k a month), is a model and has been since a teen, was MARRIED to an NFL PLAYER, is seen on constant jets and planes, gets invited to after parties and host big-time events. The list goes on... edit: IM AM NOT HATING ON HER! PLS! 😭🤚 i love her content and have been watching her for years! I'm just saying that normal ppl dont just have her level of success and thats ok. She worked to get where she is but not everyone had the luxury to do what she does.

[@Jaydub07]

She not a elite a elite person could take all your lands and properties and your job and your life , a elite person could make you their servant and you couldn’t do none about it trust me you don’t want to meet the elites they’re on a whole different level then celebrities celebrities are like common folks to them , it’s like a lord and a knight just cause the system seems different and the names are changed don’t mean the hierarchy is different

[@Moonlight22763]

@rexs.5188 lmfao

[@eevieee]

plus a biomedical engineer lol

[@mishy1654]

@@eevieee but that's something you genuinely have to work for...not something that is handed to you

[@eevieee]

i wasn't implying that she didn't work for it, nor was the OP though...i don't get what you're saying. we were just listing things she's known for/mentioned in her tiktoks

[@LAWOODSTORIES]

Exactly. The woman is nice but she is delusional if she really thinks that she is "Normal". She is not a A lister but she is a millionaire and a top influencer.

[@DayoA1]

One thing people forget is that she had that apartment BEFORE she was a tiktoker! I see a trend where people tend to hate on the wealth! It's an ugly behavior, especially when what we also want it to live life without struggling to pay bills or eat!

[@pinagrrrr2280]

She has been delusional for a long time now and changed her looks apparently she wants to look like Angelina and not look at her acts as humanitarian. Sad vanish story.

[@NavyParty]

@@pinagrrrr2280lol you r delusional but keep on playing the telephone game

[@thegoat8827]

She’s not nice lmao. She’s annoying and stuck up

[@Chunter060]

@@pinagrrrr2280that has annoyed me for so long that she compares herself to Angelina arguable the most beautiful woman of the past century, it’s a little insight into her psyche 😐

[@itisWhatitis12345]

Watching this as an outsider who doesn't use tiktok or instagram is bizarre

[@pear3950]

exactly

[@inumidunoyenuga5333]

This people are just bored and jobless

[@foxxy111]

Frr

[@saerahqww]

fr

[@Sheepy16able]

yeeeah i feel you :D

[@wr_royalty]

the fact she didn’t understand the context of “let them eat cake” when using the sound is ironically the reason everyone is upset at her

[@Randomly1234]

Why? Why would she have to understand the context of a viral TikTok sound? She's played into the rich character for the TikTok in which she's showing off her beautiful expensive dress. Who. Cares. Why is this an issue? People literally dress up as killerclowns and stuff for Halloween and use all kinds of viral sounds to show off their scary outfits. For some reason, everyone gets that those guys are just playing a character when it's a killer, but if they're playing a wealthy diva suddenly it must be real and the context of the viral sound matters... Give me a break.

[@Emilyz1337]

Yo Hayley this u? ​@@Randomly1234

[@She_Sordid]

@@Randomly1234 She IS a wealthy diva tho. She lives in an apartment in NYC that costs $17k a month, with such a recognisable and one-of-a-kind window that everyone who sees the building knows that's where she lives, has dated a pro-athlete, been a model and had 10 million followers on tiktok alone, while also posting on youtube and insta, which also makes her money(I never checked how many followers she had before on those accounts), is close friends with a famous fashion designer, while also getting the expensive dress she wore in question from him for free. Its not like its some middle class girl dressing up and pretending to be rich. Some ppl her age can't even move out bc it's too expensive, so when she goes to a fancy event for rich ppl in an expensive dress, then says "let them eat cake", it can come off as incredibly tone deaf. And her excuse? "I used it bc my dress was Marie Antoinette themed", It takes only a quick google search to find out that there's no evidence that she said that and that its not the best thing to post. EDIT: Don't reply to me unless you are going to read all my comments in this thread. Ppl keep on replying to me saying the same stuff as if I haven't explained in other comments. Also stop saying anything abt jealousy, or ppl just being upset that she's rich, bc that just shows that you aren't up for a civil discussion and you're not even listening to what ppl are saying and that you're just looking for an agruement.

[@Thrashjanga]

@@Randomly1234you probably are going to swipe mom and dads credit card today for your lunch

[@Randomly1234]

@@She_Sordid Why are you telling me she’s rich..? I know she’s rich. Are you trying to say she doesn’t have the right to be rich just because you don’t have the same wealth..? As for the diva part, she really isn’t a diva. Her content was never about flexing on the poor, literally never. She makes funny videos for a female audience. She doesn’t hide that she’s rich, but also doesn’t shove it down people’s throats. That’s not a “diva”… For that one time that she got the opportunity to host for an event (that she wasn’t even a part of, she wasn’t invited to the actual gala…), got a fancy designer dress to fit the theme of the event, was proud of it and showed it off to her followers playing into this character, acting “filthy rich” - suddenly everyone has a problem with her wealth, she’s not allowed to have it and is not allowed to address it ever. What do you want from her..? To give all her money away so that you stop shaming her for her wealth..? You don’t even know what you want from her.

[@gummy5862]

I don’t think the “let them eat cake” video was a big deal, but her response video to the backlash was crazy. No accountability or self awareness at all.

[@kivzzzz]

Why do you care so much about "accountability" in this case??? She didn't hurt anybody. Live and let live, no one owes you anything, it doesn't matter if they're "rich" or "elite" or a celebrity.

[@gummy5862]

@@kivzzzz She could at least truly apologize for offending people, even if _I personally_ don’t see it as a big deal. Also the whole “I’m not elite wah wah” thing she did was weird and off putting.

[@hdajq892ey7]

​@@gummy5862 i dont think she should apologize for other people being offended. isn't that their issue for being offended over a bloody tiktok video? too right mate too right..

[@illus1on_exe]

@@hdajq892ey7 fr tho why is this such a big deal that ppl gotta waste hours making videos on it lol who truly cares

[@cookliet8444]

It was a big deal. Even if the dialogue wasn’t said irl, but the she had to know what it meant, let alone saying this while a genocide is going on and met gala was just a distraction from the rafah attack! It is a big deal! Saying you are not educated enough to talk about a genocide is so backdated.

[@felix_a_fiend]

I wish this much energy was put into local politics and elections, which have a higher chance of making change than a celebrity.

[@arminayekta398]

you’d think that it would be easier, our governments are actually harder to influence because we can’t stop paying them or else you’ll go to jail, you feel me? has targeting our politicians and local governments done anything to improve police brutality? no. has it done anything to protect the members of the lgbtq+? no. has it helped decrease islamophobia or systematic racism? no. has it done anything to improve healthcare? no. has it helped improve sexism or gendered violence or women’s reproductive rights? no because these politicians follow the agendas pushed by lobbyists. these celebrities and influencers make money off our attention so taking that away from them is one of the easiest ways to affect them and the corporations that back them.

[@santostv.]

What!! you want people to go outside 😂😂

[@felix_a_fiend]

@@santostv. I know, maybe it’s asking too much smh

[@criskp6861]

That is a good point

[@arminayekta398]

i’m sorry but how has that helped literally any social and political movement in the last couple of years? women’s reproductive rights are at an all time low, police brutality is getting worse, islamophobia and anti immigrant rhetoric is getting worse, hate crimes are increasing, gun violence is worsening, native americans are still being targeted, sex trafficking is a billion dollar industry i can go on forever. our governments serve the interests of the lobbyists, you can’t stop funding a government but you can stop funding celebrities/influencers and corporations that profit off taking advantage of people of colour

[@Milli8975]

How does she not understand that being gifted a dress like that is even more elite than having to pay for it

[@rsoeykitkat]

"I wasn't invited to the met gala! They only invited me to be a host for the met gala!"

[@aiaesthetics1124]

Facts

[@AvariParti]

Literally still a big opportunity and privilege people are so dense

[@Linylove777]

“I wasn’t invited for free. They paid me”

[@shizukagozen777]

​@@Linylove777 This is somehow worse. 😂😂😂

[@DoinManyThings]

Yeah she’s Dululu 😆🤦🏽‍♀️😆

[@cailon1]

My biggest problem is that people want celebs to give their opinion and continue to harp at them about it but then when they finally say something they all get mad and call it performative. Of course it’s performative they are only speaking on it because they are being FORCED to comment on a subject they didn’t want to comment on.

[@mrmcawesome9746]

Nobody's FORCING influencers to do jack squat. It's performative because they're clearly only doing it to stop the bleeding instead of as a result of self-reflection or really any genuine reason, which is why people stay mad at them. I don't like the fake outrage either, but only because it's just as disingenuous as the celebrities it's targeting this time, if people actually meant it and stuck by it they'd absolutely be in the right to do so.

[@cailon1]

@@mrmcawesome9746 but that’s exactly what I mean by forcing. They are being forced to make a statement to stop the bleeding. The outrage forced them to make a statement that they otherwise wouldn’t have just so they can save face.

[@mrmcawesome9746]

​@@cailon1 So... people _should_ stay mad at them? Because they're being disingenuous and showing they only care about their own numbers? Seems pretty contradictory to your original comment, but I guess we agree.

[@custom4095]

@@cailon1Womp womp? It’s their own fault for not speaking up earlier. It’s been 7 months-they had a LONG time to speak up.

[@caitlynsult2685]

@@custom4095some celebrities and ppl did speak up 7 months ago and still got called performative…

[@ratguy278]

*voice cracks* "I'm not elite I'm a normal person" - Woman who pays 17,000 dollars per month in rent

[@moniquemorris5833]

I thought she was just touring the place, she was renting it?

[@JSB1729]

​@@moniquemorris5833 Yeah it's the appartment that she'a renting. Never understood the appeal to live there too. Only thing you hear is people screaming and honking.

[@CatsAreAliens00]

​@@JSB1729 I miss the hell out of city living sometimes. The noise, the people, having things at my finger tips 24/7. I also know people that live in cities that pay crazy amounts for rent and they aren't elite but they do have amazing jobs now

[@erikas.6790]

If you multiply that number by 10 you get the money I spent for buying my house in my country, she living there for a year cost more than my whole home! How is she not elite?

[@JSB1729]

@@erikas.6790 Happy for you that you were able to purchase a home. She isn't elite because other people in the world make $17 000 or more a day haha. The true elites have billions upon billions saved up and no one knows who they are.

[@DimaRakesah]

"If you only wanna work 4 hours it's gonna be a lot harder for you to get a house" My husband and I work 2 jobs, one full time and one part time, and they are not minimum wage. They are decent jobs. We still cannot afford a house because the cost of a decent house is still 2x what we can afford. We can't work 4 jobs, we cannot move somewhere cheaper or we lose our jobs and a more remote area will not have the jobs we are able to get a decent income with, so what are we supposed to do? Sell our organs?

[@harryhanz1690]

And this will all be forgotten within a few weeks.

[@A_Midsummer_Nights_Dream]

fr

[@santostv.]

More like tomorrow

[@StinsonSwarley]

Speak for yourself

[@greenthinggg]

Exactly its just useless imo

[@susuileamura]

And I found out about it right now, so not a lot of people also know about this

[@KATinBLACK]

This made me think: Do people really want celebrities to talk about social and political issues or not? They say they want them to talk about them, but when their opinion isn’t likable then it’s like, “this is why celebrities need to keep their mouths shut, they’re spreading bad messages”. But then when they don’t say anything it’s like, “their silence is spreading a bad message.” So its only when a celebrity says what people like that they’re allowed to have an opinion. It’s insane. They should ALL be allowed to speak or not speak… and then we get to make fun of em instead of demanding them to say the popular thing

[@nikitatavernitilitvynova]

Exactly. I did like the last point of: "Let informed people speak" because I get stuff wrong all the time. Hell at first I didn't even know who's wrong and who isn't wrong because I'm ill informed and don't watch the news as much. I know that if I said anything about Ukraine some people will get mad at me despite being of Ukrainian heritage directly through my Ukrainian mom. You can never please anybody anytime. Or sometimes you hear the odd: "They're getting political to stay relevant" meaning that they're only talking about this so people will still watch them or think that they're out of touch for being celebrities talking about this. Almost as a token.

[@JamesLawner]

Exactly! I’m so sick and tired of all the BS!

[@playlistdj]

And they can't say something like "I don't really wanna get involved in this because I'm not that knowledgble/stories like this ruins my mental health/My platform is and has always been free of politics and I'd like to keep it that way" then it becomes a hissy fit of "Ugh just educate yourself" "if it's negativley affecting you GOOD, this is the real world" and "who cares you should use your platform to bring awareness to it anyways, it's not that hard" It's a lose-lose-lose no matter who you are and what you do

[@FrancisFabricates]

I mean I think it’s rather simple that celebs need to be raising the voices of people who know what is going on. Those people aren’t hard to find. They can collaborate with them or just share their work. I am in general just happy people are sharing operation olive branch so there is help being shared now. But yeah the celebs do need to continue to share information and or pressure on Israel or other places. It’s not hard to be educated and the educators have done the work for them just share their videos it’s not that hard

[@Allgloss312]

@@FrancisFabricatesexactly. It really isnt that hard to at least uplift the voices of people who know more than you. And i dont buy into those whole acting like celebrities are these poor little victims who can never do anything right. Its the internet. Everyone will always be unfairly criticized by someone. But why does it matter? If you actually care about these issues, why would they let random people on the internet stop them from using their voice? The thing is disapproval is always the loudest, but these celebrities will always have support regardless. So its a cop out to say they cant win cuz celebrities will always win and loud people on tiktok snd twitter cant take away their wealth. The problem is all they care about is optics and reputation, and doing anything they can to ensure their standing in society and their wealth. And Celebrities are always criticized, not just when speaking out, so idk why people are pretending when they speak on social issues is the only time its a lose lose where people will attack them regardless? Idk. Its just such a cop out. I think at some point we have to acknowledge that these people just dont care all that much about these issues, and we cant blame their silence on their critics.

[@echocollins720]

With Boomers, it's always 'theyre not doing enough, and they just don't wanna work'. When in reality, we want to work, we also want to have a place to stay. One of my core needs in life cost an unbelievable amount of money that i may never be able to afford. Gotta love growing up into this

[@KATinBLACK]

The problem is in their time most one parent income could buy you a house and support your family of 4 or 5 compared to today where you need TWO incomes, sometimes three, to *rent* a house and support your family. Some people are working hard, but it’s still not enough to afford a home. You need roommates or a partner (and they must work) but with loneliness on the rise people can’t find either to live with.

[@Tsuki0ni]

TL;DR: I was brought back to the early 2010's and accidentally went on a rant. Summary people want to work but companies ain't shit and are on too much bullshit to preserve ppl's sanity and health. I graduated college right at the beginning of the recession. This was around the time where entry level jobs required 5+ years of experience and companies started heavily using headhunters and recruiters to not have to deal with the costs of having a payrolled employee, so when I did get hired, I was making less than I should, still am, and had student loan debts to take care. Then, down the line I started having anxiety problems because I couldn't take 40 hours a week of worrying about meeting arbitrary metrics that don't take into account how long a solution takes and the extra work it takes to fulfill customer service standard and potentially being yelled at because it was my fault that someone was stupid and broke their computers by doing something an error message specifically told them not to do. Then, my company gave me no advice on how I could change roles in the same career, even though their whole job was to know what their clients want and sell them on people and eventually just stopped contacting me. Then we started getting blamed because we couldn't afford luxuries like restaurants and diamonds so industries started doing badly. Now, companies want so badly to mandate people to come back to the office that don't need to be there even though for a lot of them, it is a lifesaver to be able to save on gas, child care, pet care, etc. Long story short, we want to work. We just also would like to be paid enough to pay for necessities, live our lives, have the company have a reasonable amount of concern for us as human beings, and not be surveilled and wrung out for every drop of productivity and without the proper chance to rest. Do people really not understand how stressful it is to have the very millisecond of your lunch break monitored? And then if the company does poorly, workers get laid off first even though it's the higher ups fault for obviously bad management. Can we clone Iwata and just install him in every company? I don't understand why CEOs feel like they need to make more money than Jesus and all the saints before actually taking care of their companies. It's like having children solely for the tax cut.

[@giulioceresini1435]

​@@KATinBLACK the job market wasn't as competitive as it is today. Plus, university and college degrees are being given left and right so they are losing value in the eyes of an employer. Unless you work in specific fields, like most of stems or education, you degree is not valued as much as it was 30 years ago while becoming a standard request for application.

[@dychostarr]

​@@giulioceresini1435 very true, the issue is still the costs going up. Inflation IS real. But doing some math we can see how wildly things have gone up vs the actual curves that should be used for inflation. There's a reason people talk about society creating a debt based one because theres no profit in people owning things that they could be paying forever for while the sellers always has that house/land/object to sell. It sucks, and its based on the system more than anything else. Just like all things, everything is complicated.

[@angie001]

Facts.

[@SanrioLoverrr666]

She’s not a horrible person for using an audio… yes, she should’ve done more research and made a better apology but the fact people are this mad is actually crazy… KZbinrs literally groom kids and don’t get cancelled while all she did was say “let them eat cake”😭

[@hellohoneyfernishere7301]

Yeah there’s much bigger problems but I think back Ash for a situation like this is deserved

[@abigailsnail7]

Strawman argument. I can focus on two things at once lmfao

[@Skaevs]

Why should she apologize if she didn't do anything wrong by using the audio? Literally used the quote in irony.

[@si-jd9oq]

@@abigailsnail7 But these people aren't. Like there's a worldwide sex trafficking ring they could be trying to bring awareness to, but no, that's too much effort for them.

[@watermoolencow]

i wholly agree but also i don't think that she really should've made an apology because she didn't need to, ykwim? it was just an audio

[@TowerJack]

Respectfully, Kim Kardashian isn't having to present her follower count to beg brands to sponsor her... They beg HER.

[@blackfrost9011]

True but to be fair, they beg her because of her follower count

[@Nicole-zh7pl]

Yeah but the less exposure on such a big social media, especially when done on purpose by the public means less influence and less influence leads to becoming less important to the masses. It's been 20 years. She too will not matter eventually. I'd rather sooner than later.

[@Ivoska135]

To be fair, what can she offer to them but a big influence? It is certainly not about the Instagram followers but still, when people would not admire her and want to follow what she does, she would not earn a penny

[@lawrencelopez9839]

a huge chunk of those followers aren't real in that if they had bodies she'd have a robot army big enough to take over the world

[@nodrvgs]

and ask yourself why they beg her. Because of her large influence. Strip her followers/fans away and she'd have no influence. It's that simple.

[@beamshark]

I wish people put this same energy into politicians.. y'know, the people who can ACTUALLY make change... Blocking celebrities is the equivalent of posting black squares during BLM Edit: I am 17 BTW, if that matters. In an influencer based culture, the only way you can make an impact is by stripping the influence from people who don’t support the common public interest (or basic *basic* human rights..). Obviously this all falls into the latter, but the majority of these people “boycotting” their celebrities are targeting them for the former. The hate seems misdirected in MY OPINION. Yes, celebrities do have an impact on their audiences-and in some more powerful fandom circles, popular culture-if they choose to speak out, but IMO it is not their obligation to, at all. I support Gaza, my family lived in and suffered in Ukraine during P*tin’s attack a few years ago, and still very much today!! But, it is no one’s responsibility, aside from the governments’, to address it. If this same thing was happening then, my opinion would definitely not change. Also, like the majority of people, celebrities do not want to risk their whole livelihood for a cause out of their control. Many people have a warped sense of what a celebrity is, and there are many of them that would suffer if they did chose to speak out, and if they don’t, so it’s a lose lose. I think they should absolutely say something if they are able to. Politicians, and I agree that they are doing awful at their job, have a lot more societal power than this random woman saying she doesn’t care about Palestine. Or the total opposite if you live in an influencer based culture, because if you DO, this girl getting “dragged” is the worst thing ever. Haley will be absolutely fine, I promise you. You can care about two causes at once, but if this celebrity blocklist is the most important thing to you, then IMO, your hate is misdirected and you are wasting your TIME, and the people who are sufferings’ time. These peoples’ jobs are to entertain us and nothing more, anything that they decide to do in addition is not something we are not entitled to. Putting these people in a parasocial relationship and on a pedestal will (and clearly has) led to disappointment. Go donate to CONFIRMED aid for Gaza, if you can’t afford to donate, that is fine. Go sign CONFIRMED petitions for Gaza, go to protests near you (if you know it’s safe for you to do so). Talk about it online, with friends or family if you are able to. I don’t think blocking celebrities is entirely bad, but this being the start and end of your protest is a very questionable thing.

[@mrmindful5437]

Ikr this comes across as lazy, you can just ignore celebrities. Politicians need to be held accountable and they do not care unless you vote consistently and remain involved

[@tessajones9393]

Adults should be able to do both.

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

REAL

[@domperdomper9250]

Exactly!!

[@mothmos]

yes, celebrities are the distractions or scapegoats. while the people who are actually in power and position continue to do shady and corrupt stuff

[@Reviewland963]

I am STILL shaken by her being able to pay $17k a month on an apartment. That's crazy money.

[@kokuhakuqiun4215]

She’s spending money on her apartment I’d probably be spending on medical bills and insurance to get meds that I take so I can reduce my chances of having another near-fatal asthma attack 🙄😒 That’s insane.

[@Mollycrimey]

she had that apartment at the very beginning of her influencer career which I don't get. How does she have that kind of money? The other models that I follow on social media that appear successful don't have this kind of money, they always complain about how models barely make anything and will often get paid in "exposure"

[@Reviewland963]

@@Mollycrimey I watched a video that said she has a wealthy family. That is probably why she is able to afford it.

[@stuffwithsoph8264]

​@@Mollycrimey Nepotism and I assume whatever she got in the divorce settlement when she divorced her NFL ex-husband

[@TigerLilly4495]

Meanwhile we can't afford the $12k per year it would cost to have health insurance 😭

[@gshauauw6376]

I don't know how blocking a celebrity can feed a family in Palestine, why are they pressuring celebrities, and not the government?

[@monsteralfie]

we can do both.

[@sparkyblue7016]

​@@monsteralfieBut why? Blocking a celebrity because their views dont align with yours is literally a first world problem. You are also an elite if you worry about such things.

[@eo0-g9j]

When kehlani (music artist) called out celebs for not being vocal about it, suddenly almost every A-list celebrity posted a charity link and they managed to donate more than a MILLION dollars. Its 100% helping. Unfortunately biden still funds the wars and gets away with it

[@teddies6549]

Because these celebs have the power to spread awareness and feed a lot of Palestinian families but they chose to be quiet

[@spunchflopbadpants]

cuz watching celebs cry is funny?

[@nekofrau]

"Let them eat cake" OH IT'S HER, I was wondering what people were on about

[@VeeAmericanEagle]

Omg sammme! Thanks to this channel bc I was dumbfounded 😂

[@myfuneralismytimetoshine]

Fun fact: Marie Antoinette never said that; it was attached to her name to reconstruct the historical past 50-100 years after her murder because the French were analysing the carnage of the French Revolution, and sympathy for the former royal family was starting to grow. Let them eat brioche' is initially found in one of Jean-Jacques Rousseau's novels, in which he attributed this line to one of his fictitious characters belonging to the 18th-century French aristocracy. The "brioche" quote wasn't original and had a history of being used against noble women. The philosopher and writer Jean-Jacques Rousseau, whose work later influenced the revolution, may have been the first person to pen the phrase in 1767.

[@Sweetheart-qh5li]

But does that deny the fact that she was a horrible queen ?

[@ericmerante8745]

​@@Sweetheart-qh5li the comment does not excuse her actions though.

[@XOXO-eo5vu]

​​​@@Sweetheart-qh5li there is no way you ever went to school. Just like you high likely don't know anything about physics so you don't affirm anything about it, just do the same for any other field, history included. Bro doesn't even know what a book is and has some takes lol

[@pinkiepie6880]

Thank you! Any historian worth his (or her) salt knows that Marie Antoinette never said "Let them eat cake." Everyone is getting upset over the connotations of a phrase that never resided in history in the way it was so infamously portrayed; in recent years due to the Sofia Coppola biopic detailing Marie Antoinette's life and times. Which was a very ficticious biography at that. And the fact people choose to focus on these so called "elites" when there are other elites, globalists, politicians and world leaders that are much more problematic. Tom foolery 😂

[@luanaxavier7310]

​@@Sweetheart-qh5lishe was 15

[@sailorVenus225]

"I'm a normal person" "I work harder than anyone" "No, my parents had nothing to do with me buying an apartment in NY at age 16!!!!" 🥴🥴🥴🥴🤨

[@luisapaza317]

and some people believe that economic inequality is a fairy tale 🤣

[@carpenoctem1182]

Her ex nfl husband pays her alimony

[@badbunnysnovia9176]

Bye in a video she said she moved to ny with her boyfriend and was homeless at first

[@nnnnom]

@@badbunnysnovia9176 homeless? when was she homeless? also where did she say this

[@nnnnom]

@@carpenoctem1182 makes sense cuz she doesnt get those many modelling gigs and she doesnt do sponsorships often

[@lateformyownbirth]

I really am growing to resent the expectation that people should be forced into making a political decision when listening to music, or watching a tv show or movie, or buying coffee. Demanding that evey last portion of people's lives be politicised is a monstrous thing to do to an already stressed out populace. It's vile.

[@dianaharris7506]

Yeah some people do not have the time to see which celebrities and companies are pro Palestine or support Israel and just buy stuff because they just want to live their damn life. Getting mad at something like listening to the music of someone who apparently doesn’t use their status to do what they want is ridiculous. If you know they’re not gonna do anything then do it yourself. Focus on something productive. Celebrities aren’t the reason Palestine is being bombed constantly it’s the politicians in those countries doing it and Politicians allowing it.

[@MariaPaula-uw3ds]

But the thing is, every little aspect of our lives IS political in a way. The fact you don't acknowledge it doesn't make it less political, it just makes you more susceptible to being manipulated

[@cachalotreal]

fr, they get angry when a famous and rich person dosen’t share their views. “ohh but its genocide i will stop seeing those celebrities as human beings”

[@youre764]

⁠​⁠@@MariaPaula-uw3dsprivilege is being able to believe that every aspect of life isn’t affected by politics

[@youre764]

@@dianaharris7506do you not realize that some celebrities donate to israel and it’s their fans giving them the money to do that?

[@MotherofThePearls]

I just want to note that there's no evidence to suggest that Marie Antoinette actually said "let them eat cake"

[@JimmyRobins]

Yep, which is why I said it "was believed" that she did

[@ghoultooth]

⁠@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kittyI’d like to ask why you couldn’t just stop at saying the first little paragraph but instead went on about the same kind of thing over and over. This would make a better standalone comment /gen

[@mollyfarrell.]

So what! History has attributed that quote to her

[@crazygur1y]

​@@Gingersnaps_the_pumpkin_kitty damn bro, why so tight-lipped, write a longer comment

[@skinnyrat4277]

@@JimmyRobins its not believed that she did though, its just a kind of myth thats been attributed to her as a historical figure

[@wasabi.2839]

Instead of stalking celebrities to do something, we should stalk people in the government WITH ACTUAL POWER TO DO SOMETHING. Just because your favourite celebrity says ''stop the war in Ukraine/stop destroying Palestine/stop threatening Taiwan/defend Myanmar.'' Is not gonna accomplish anything; they make youtube videos, sing, act, direct, produce entertainment, they *ARE NOT* guiding international diplomatic relationships in politics.

[@Nodont-kk5qe]

This is true but we do need to realize with the amount of money and fame that they have,they could’ve donated or talked about the issue. Have you seen the amount of celebs that are literally PROMOTING GENOCIDE?

[@Nodont-kk5qe]

If we are talking abt governments,wouldnt it be better if 95% of celebs are defending palestine congo and other countries that are going through the same things? They have the platform to do that,and with more people boycotting and talking abt this matter the government might be able to feel cornerned

[@نورةعلام-ظ4ض]

Some people tried but couldn't make a difference because they were some normal civilians Talking about the situation to someone as a celebrity or a famous person would make more than what an individual would do

[@Kei-ij3lg]

Yall really dont realise why theyre called "influencers" ? They have influence on people. When they help a certain cause, people following them will be influenced to also help that cause. Creators for palestine raised 300k in dnations in like a single week or less. We wouldve never gotten that if it wasnt for the blockout that threatened their platforms. it IS helping alot. And even if it isnt for palestine specifically, blocking celebrities is always a good thing.

[@Filzaakmal]

FINALLY someone who actually gets it

[@thehutch7728]

I knew when I chose my career that I’d be “forever poor.” I also know people make millions doing things that I don’t personally value. HOWEVER! It k!11s me a little to see HaleyyBaylee pay $17k/month on her apartment alone, while as a teacher with two master’s degrees, I only brought home $2,000/month. 😅 ETA: Marie Antoinette didn’t actually say that. She was a kind young girl who cared deeply about her subjects, but was so hated for being Austrian, she was constantly put down and had lies spread about her.

[@maxolivia4911]

She was a victim on the whole. But she also did live as a very very very rich and detached human. She had her very own chocolatier whose only job was to design new sweet treats for her each day. Her king husband made her a mock farm to hide out at when actual farmers were struggling to feed their families. I'm but even saying it's Marie Antoinette's fault. She didn't know any better. She was at the behest of far more important and influential people. But she didn't aid the poor as much as perhaps she could have and the rich poor divide was really visible in their place of residence

[@brittanybeauvais]

@@maxolivia4911correct. She was simply a product of her raising/fortunate circumstance. She was not particularly well educated (it’s said that she didn’t care for learning) as her sole purpose was to be married off and then, when she was, she faced much adversity and backlash from the French civilians. I do feel bad for her in the sense that she truly may not have fully known or understood the dire situation until it was far too late - she was simply used to living her lavish lifestyle as she always had. Ignorance isn’t always bliss, I suppose.

[@elif6908]

@@maxolivia4911It’s important to remember for a monarchy the life of the monarch represents the power and the abilities of the country they rule. So if Marie Antoinette didn’t had a chocolatier or didn’t had a pastoral village as these things were things to do for the nobility, she would be criticised, again. This time it would be alleging that the French court was poor, or it would be she was unfit to be head of the French court with her rural ways. So in a way she has to spend money while also not have to spend money. It’s a catch-22 however you look.

[@elif6908]

@@maxolivia4911In addition to my earlier comment, because I overlooked the charity bit at first, Marie Antoinette would have to use ‘proper channels’ for charity. And, I’m not an expert on the period, but if I had to make an educated guess those would be the church and the almshouses other (lesser) nobility founded. Before and during the reign of the Sun King Louise the 14th, the role of the queen was to organise the king’s domestic life and the courts domestic order, nothing more and nothing less. And Marie would have been brought up to do just that. On the grand story of history what toppled the French monarchy of the time was not their spending, honestly. Louise the 15th’s ancestors had similar lifestyle gaps with their subjects to his when French people had worse conditions. The difference was the changing of technologies of communication and the powerlessness of his character. If he had been a much more charismatic king, one that could manipulate his court to his bidding, like his grandfather, things would be starkly different. And if the people of France didn’t had the access to new ideas, the anti-monarch (and most of the time anti-queen) propaganda, if the printing press didn’t have a voice to the ordinary people’s ambitions, we wouldn’t have a revolution. While they seem powerful and grandiose individual kings or queens was relatively weak on the whole against the institution that was monarchy. Yes there are some who redefined the rules like the Sun King or Kathrine the Great of Russia, they’re far and few in between. Most of the monarchs did not had the unilateral powers we assigned to them from our era. They had power over people, a very real and inordinate power, but they were also individuals in the tides of power and had to act as such.

[@khadyadjisall5708]

Yes and no. Antonia was delivered to the French border when she was 13 in order to be wed to the Dauphin. She was young, naive and yeah dumb, she hardly never integrated into the French Versailles micro society, she was hated for multiple reasons (some were purely misogynistic and superficial) but others were reasonable. She did have a very lavish lifestyle, especially when compared to other more conservative royal families. However what really drained the French economy were the wars in America financed partially by King Louis XVI. I have sympathy for her( she was executed, and her 3 kids were imprisoned and died afterwards), however I despised the greedy royalists.

[@Julia-oe9xl]

Marie Antoinette never even said "let them eat cake", so nowadays I just cringe at all the ignorant influencers misusing that 'quote'. Please inform yourself.

[@lunarialoonatic]

Yeah it’s just from that movie I think

[@Julia-oe9xl]

@@lunarialoonatic yeah

[@DebTheDevastator]

It was part of the smear campaign against her. There were a ton of things to criticize her about, but the eat cake is ridiculous. Like the fact she used a pound of flour every day to powder her wigs and being so out of touch with the peasants.

[@Anne_The_Hamster]

Plus she didn't know any better, her life was awful since she had to get married at such a young age

[@RightsForZombies]

I was looking for this comment. Thank you!

[@aquilaaltaire3007]

I unfollowed her a while ago because something about her comes off as very insincere and dishonest. Her "no makeup" looks constantly have filters on them. It's quite obvious that she participated in some sort of "looks maxing" procedure for her model career, but she insists on her "ugly duckling to beautiful swan" story. She calls herself a "scientist", but she only completed an undergrad education (that does not make you a scientist). She's "self-made" but won't admit that being married to a successful pro-athlete may have brought her potential connections and extreme financial stability. There are just many moments of dishonesty.

[@murple.purple]

She also stole someone’s video

[@crispri3919]

Doesn't she literally have a well known thing for trolling people and doing stuff like "no makeup" with her face fully contoured ironically. No offense but it just sounds like you really don't understand her type of humor and are projecting your insecurities unto her.

[@CatsAreAliens00]

​@@murple.purplewho's video did she steal?

[@gray.2081]

Yes thank you. I couldn’t believe no one else in her comments picked up on the insincerity. Even worse, her fans are ruthless if you criticize her.

[@Chunter060]

@@gray.2081Exactly and I think it’s because they can’t pick up on the discrepancies in her persona, I think the body language she uses when trying to get her audience to feel a certain adulation for her is very revealing.

[@kriskross_]

Honestly, I don’t find anything wrong with the initial video. Her outfit is clearly inspired by Marie Antoinette, it makes sense for her to use a sound from the movie especially considering it’s popular rn and how famous the quote itself is. However, her apology was incredibly tone deaf and her insisting she’s “not an elite” is laughable. So, in my opinion, she really just fucked up with the apology lol. I feel like if she’d just said “hey, my outfit was inspired by Marie Antoinette which is why I used that sound, I really didn’t mean anything by it, sorry for not making my intentions more clear” it probably would have just blown over immediately

[@MVPA-io5ee]

I think she also said that she's not "well informed" about the current situation... So people got angry with that... Not what i said... I saw some videos talking about this... And then met gala = hunger games = g4za

[@alexandram1301]

I agree, if you’ve seen the movie you understand the reference. I think Haley trying to distance herself from “the elite” was weird though and seemed out of character, like she should just own it

[@kukuandkookie]

The video mentions it six minutes in, but there is some additional context to people being upset about the “Let them eat cake” comment from her, which is mostly due to what’s happening in Gaza with Palestine and Israel that people have been paying a lot more attention to now. A lot of people were pointing out how it feels fucked up to them that people are suffering in Gaza while people in the west with money were enjoying themselves in a rather extravagant show of their wealth and safety (even if it’s for charity). Many actually likened it to the _Hunger Games_ in terms of people wearing fancy outfits for consumerism and fanfare all while ignoring the implications of hundreds of children being deliberately targeted and killed all day. Whatever your thoughts are on the conflict in the Middle East, “let them eat cake” being purportedly said by Marie Antoinette about suffering peasants makes it a little _more_ awkward for a celebrity to say _now_ considering those _currently_ suffering for real in Palestine. Which may have gotten even more hate because if the celebrity in question _hasn’t_ said or done anything for Palestine (as seen in her apology where she thought you should be educated to speak on the topic (which I assume only led to even more backlash because many believe it’s “obvious” now that Palestine is facing genocide by Israel and that no population deserves that)). Again, I’m just stating the main reasons people were _so_ upset. I don’t really follow celebrities so I hardly kept track of this or had any strong feelings about it myself, but I do feel like if she had said “let them eat cake” literally any other year when Palestine wasn’t in the forefront of people’s consciousness, she wouldn’t have faced _this_ amount of backlash, because now it’s that plus the class disparity in the US.

[@Diamond1234]

Yep, it's kinda funny how many people expose how they are tone deaf with their "apologies" lol.

[@playfulwriter9796]

@@kukuandkookieThat’s so stupid though. Because people care about this one group right now, that quote was tactless? People are literally starving everywhere all the time, but because it kind of related to the “big thing” right now she should be canceled??? I get people are frustrated with celebrities or whatever but a video of a model wearing a fancy 1700s inspired dress, quoting a queen from the 1700s is not important. Instead of wasting our time worrying about her, what about holding someone accountable who has been abusive to people or something. I don’t know if this lady has but if so, call that out! Not this.

[@Alleywaycat-]

Hot take: celebrities (actors and singers etc) are NOT OBLIGATED to speak out on social matters. If they do, great, whatever. But at the center, celebs are there to ENTERTAIN. They are there because we have a desire for music and movies. They are not there to be the public's moral compass.

[@kimberleywilliams7802]

Literally this. I'm not gonna lie and say that them using their platforms isn't ridiculously impactful and that I don't respect Angelina Jolie and Beyonce for the work they do with chareties and such, but let's be honest, no one is waiting arond for Jacob Elordi to post on IG about any activism.

[@carlamoss89]

I completely agree. Why the hell do people want glorified theater kids' opinions about politics or war? This is what chronically online people do. In the real outside world, no one cares about what a ranodom tik tok model or tv actor have to say.

[@swatkabombonica4103]

Yes. I want them all to shush up, and stop ruining whatever image we formed based on previous work. They make me want to stop watching half of the movies, because some actors took money to spread propaganda, and secure future roles. It rarely has to do with ideology, it's just backing those with more power in the industry

[@yegra]

Period.

[@tomatosoup1304]

Exactly! It's great if they want to but their jobs are to be fun, goofy escapisms from reality

[@SnoopyPlays-hd3no]

the fact that the people trying to block out influencers are also influencers 💀😭

[@yingbozo]

i think the difference is that a lot of them dont get paid until they reach a certain level of popularity IIRC. and the average small "influencer" barely makes anything at all, esp bc (dont quote me on this) tiktok reduced the pay for the program

[@kenny995]

Hot take, getting irrationally angry for someone saying "let them eat cake" when dressed like Marie Antoinette is nonsensical, and celebrity block out is performative activism. Do you think people in the midst of genocide are thankful that you blocked a celebrity? Being mad thst a celebrity isn't comfortable talking about an issue is a 1st world problem. If you actually cared, you make real change, donate, support channels and videos that give ad rvenue to victims, send care packages, go to protest, or write to your local government, share articles. But blocking a random celebrity does nothing to stop genocide, hunger, or homelessness.

[@L.Lawliet-dw3gj]

True

[@xqueenbee8214]

I’m glad I’m not fucking crazy cause this is my take.

[@yan7655]

It's literally the equivalent of "thoughts and prayers". People just wanna act mad, and feel good about it because it makes them feel like a good person without actually doing anything to help people trapped in this genocide.

[@veronxska]

💯

[@cloed0ll]

Baby, I wholeheartedly agree, but who told you to set my husband as your profile picture? 🤨

[@aloe704]

*She started out as a normal woman in STEM from Minnesota, but post-modelling and influencing, she became elite and I don't think it's hit her yet*

[@Skaevs]

Being an e-list celebrity isn't elite bro.

[@aloe704]

@@Skaevs In the current state of the world? And the position she's in? Yes she is. (It's not just about popularity, but also regarding wealth and privalege) Edit: I just want to clarify, being rich and popular isn't a bad thing (especially if you worked hard for it like Haley). Just don't deny it is all I'm saying.

[@12stem.b-obenita]

@@aloe704she is not an elite you would have to hold a lot of political power, multiple properties be born to a generation of wealth, and plenty of connections she has none of that she is just a sucessful model who makes tiktok compare to an elite she is nothing but an ant to them

[@Kat-y_L]

Rich and famous ? yes . Elite ? NO ya'll be throwing arounds so damm easily nowadays .

[@aloe704]

@@Kat-y_L Top 1% is elite.

[@myownfreemind6627]

I always felt iffy about Haley even though I followed her for a bit, trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, but especially after people said she steals her content ideas I just got bored of her. She doesn’t like being orignal and creative, she likes being an influencer and having attention. She also annoyed me cause she shows one or two unflattering pictures while young claiming “I had a glow up” but it’s ALWAYS the same pictures. I don’t believe she was always ‘ugly’ as she claims and she’s just living off a lie trying to be likable cause she has money to pay people to tell her how to do it.

[@aashu1512]

On KZbin I'd already 'Dont recommend channel' her because of this. Like there's not much to her content. It's just boring to me

[@khadyadjisall5708]

She is a model and very wealthy… what fo you expect of her? 😅

[@sidvicious-d9u]

Ikr. Everything about her seems fake. She always acts way too nice, almost suffocating and you can tell that it's not sincere. As they say "If everybody likes you then you have a serious problem."

[@junainahrahman4156]

"i had a glow up" = was relatively attractive as a kid but got tons of plastic surgery to become tik tok attractive

[@Aicha-yj9dr]

I always click on don't recommend this channel everytime she appears on my yt shorts or videos, i never liked her, can't relate to her lifestyle ( wealthy but always trying hard to act like she is one of us average people, like look at me i am so rich but my problems are the same as yours though)

[@wonderlandian13]

ppl acting celebrities should be responsible for every political and social situation is WILDDD it’s not their job.

[@lxxsh2093]

Kids dying in the middle east is not a social or political situation but okay The whole message is that celebrities should use their platform as good and we should stop giving power to celebrities that don't contribute to anything good and give power to celebrities that do

[@sazia3592]

Situation such as in Gaza needs the attention of everyone. Even celebrities

[@tgswiiwagaalover]

ur funny cause it kinda is, not their main job but they're earning money with that and they influence people anyway

[@Roheline9]

She is the best industry plant in a few years. People are obsessed with her with no critical thought

[@theewildrose]

So I found her because she made satire vids about being a sugar baby to a billionaire and they were pretty funny. I don't care for her #relatable content. You should check out the sugar baby vids they were clever

[@pixiestxNyomouf]

No...we aren't. Do you even know the content outside this video to insult people like that 😅 over someone you or I don't really know

[@mellie98]

I really want to know l don't mess up with you . What did you mean? Please explain more . I'm not native​@@pixiestxNyomouf

[@lalalia9838]

Bruh

[@LizzieShiro]

At this point, you don’t know what an industry plant is.

[@winterfromwisthollow]

I took the original video as "hey, look at this cool outfit, it is inspired by Marie Antoinette". The fact that this caused controversy is so crazy to me.

[@Sweetheart-qh5li]

You and that 169 people are brainwashed by capitalism, can't even think for themselves, damn The reason people are mad because she is at gala with that expensive dress and saying let them eat cake is crazy, I hope you have a common sense to understand what that means

[@Kamari_26]

She actually commented that on that tiktok video

[@bakedpotato1717]

It’s the tone deafness

[@winterfromwisthollow]

@@Kamari_26 i haven't seen the original, but makes sense to me

[@winterfromwisthollow]

@@bakedpotato1717 but influencers are displaying much worse tone deafness, like this is literally just a trend, it's not that deep

[@Falonito1218]

Wasn't it like just a few years ago, that celebrities were being told that just because they are famous doesn't mean they should use their platform? They are actors not politicians?

[@poogissploogis]

Yes! I still believe this. I also think it's just shitty to pressure someone to talk about a cause they may know nothing about. I'm even seeing it in friend circles, just leave people tf alone, there is enough going on already.

[@Falonito1218]

@@poogissploogis I agree.

[@youparejo]

When was that?

[@Falonito1218]

@@youparejo I just remember people getting annoyed that celebrities were using their platforms to talk about their views. Probably before Trump tbh haha

[@Stardustuk]

I think you mean during the spread of COVID, some celebrities were giving opinion on a serious medical issue that might lead to people dying However, when children are being bombed while the rest are being starved then this isn't something you need to be educated on You either support the killing of children or you don't There is no neutrality in this situation

[@Nightingale1998]

A major issue I have with the whole "I'm not educated" argument is that we live in 2024. Education, news, resources, experts, videos, articles, podcasts, etc etc etc, are just a tap away on an item you carry with you at all times. It's easy to get statistics, to fact-check things, and to study history. In this day and age, it's basically a conscious decision not to be educated on certain topics. Yes, people lie online and people try to spin things in their favor, but again, there is a LOT of information out there and I find it pretty easy to find articles that use unbiased language, etc. I used to consider myself to "uneducated" to speak on subjects like the Middle East. I didn't know what was going on or who was in the right/wrong. However, I could tell it was important and it bugged me to be out of the loop. I literally just sat down one day and just started googling things, and now I'm more confident than ever in my decisions and my beliefs. Go into subjects unbiased, do a little research through multiple sources, use what little platform you have to talk about what you DO know. You don't have to know EVERYTHING! Just do your best and stop being willfully ignorant!

[@runyinggao]

yes! we live in 2024 not 1955 anymore, every piece of knowlege ever in human history is a touch away.

[@yingbozo]

100% agree - there is no excuse to be uneducated other than "i cba" which obviously is not great, especially as the news of the genocide made massive rounds almost a whole year ago, and continues to be a heavily reported situation i also 100% agree that "people lie" is a stupid excuse. misinfo or biased info will ALWAYS be spread, thats how things have always been, from racism to homophobia to sexism obviously different news outlets will present issues in different ways, but thats how its always been so you need to get your facts fom a variety of sources and some unbiased sources too and come to a conclusion yourself

[@MaraMara89]

On one hand - I agree, on the other - should every celeb educated themselves about EVERY topic? I am not history buff and I don't like history topics - should I know everything / anything about every war? I paid attention to Russian attack on Ukraine as it is happening next to me (I am Polish), do I need to know something more then that in Gaza people are suffering because of few people messed ideas? When I catch part of info I am thinking "yeah, I wanted to catch on it", but here I am watching "light" videos instead, because life is shit even without thinking about another war :/ If someone don't want to/don't have time or psychical power to educate themselves about some topics it is better to not talk about it then to talk bulls*it

[@Kothyn]

I feel like a few months from now the same thing that always happens will happen. People will forget, her follower count will be larger than ever and people will be mad about something else. I’m all for knocking out of touch celebrities down a peg but I doubt this “block all celebrities” movement will do anything. Celebrities unfortunately have tremendous influence over countless people so each person that blocks her will be replaced by 100 more fans eventually. I hope one day celebrities don’t have millions of people frothing at the mouth to consume whatever they’re promoting but I doubt that changes in my lifetime or the next or the next.

[@once.upon.a.time.]

Yeah it reminds me of the national strike thing that people on tiktok tried to "organize." Basically they just talked about it a lot without doing any actual organizing and then nothing happened nor changed

[@khadyadjisall5708]

I agree, as someone who does not follow any specific celebrity, it is sad

[@dustmite7558]

This defeatist mentality certainly doesn't help

[@once.upon.a.time.]

@@dustmite7558 I don't think it's defeatist, rather it's realistic. Blocking celebrities, or really most things online, are going to be mostly useless. It's possible to affect real action in the real world, but you have to be doing a lot more than just blocking people.

[@kenny995]

​@@dustmite7558 it's not defeat, it's realism. Guaranteed not q single person in the midst of a war, homelessness, hunger gives two shits about blocking a celebrity because it does absolutely nothing to help them. They probably aren't even aware of it because they have real issues to worry about.

[@christinarooz5115]

I just want to say do NOT flush “flushable wipes” they are not meant to be flushed!

[@PurpleEnthusiastt]

Lmaooo let them know, Christina!

[@OpalLeigh]

Tbf, those instructions are confusing 😂

[@plexxarbiitch]

@@OpalLeighit’s confused cuz those companies are lying and getting away with it. “Flushable wipes,” always be clogging sewer lines

[@barbie8913]

Thanks for the info 😅

[@JustapersonnamedKai]

Life is a lie

[@miaumiaumin]

This "block out" isn’t the ‘gotcha’ moment people think it really is. Unfollowing celebrities won't have any meaningful impact on their success or influence, they aren’t influencers, they don’t need to influence people to buy things, they don’t need to beg for sponsorship or ads. You'll still encounter their work in stores, movies, and music, sometimes you don’t even know that is by them. The blocking and unfollowing only works on influencers, cause they rely on follower counts for their income. Celebrating already have the money and fame, they don’t care about followers. Which is why this celebrity block is pointless-it doesn't change their career or reach. Instead, it highlights how much we think we control everything, when we clearly don’t. We as followers, once a celebrity hits their peak, we loose control little by little, until we have none. Or do the Kardashians seem poor to you after all the ‘cancel Kardashian’ campaigns that have come over the years? The Hayley thing is just and influencer who is at their peak but still trying to be relatable. It’s the same with other influencers, so don’t know why this problem is only for celebrities? In my opinion influencers are worst, or do we forget Glamzilla and Mikaela Nogueira?

[@the-postal-dude]

it's extremely chronically online. celebrities have influence outside of the internet... idk how this hasn't occurred to those tiktokers lol

[@G3nkki.Doll_]

@@the-postal-dudeliterally what I’ve been saying !!

[@such_astrangegirl]

Thank you, i’ve held this exact stance. Celebtrities are /entertainers/, they are performers, they are literally everywhere, they dont /really/ need us. I dont believe they are obligated to actually do much, again, celebrities are not at all qualified to make social or political decisions, and people who believe otherwise just play into the entire thing. Everbody is focusing on the circus thinking it will do anything, but nobody is focusing on the ringleaders that can /actually/ make changes. Us thinking we have the power, by, what? blocking them? shows how we play into the image they created. Also shows how many people online are as ignorant and uninformed as much as the celebrities they proclaim to be. Its total brainrot. Blocking celebrities and influencers does quite literally nothing. We as society and humanity still have a longgg way to go, and even then it’ll take us even longer than that to realize it. (Sorry if this doesnt make sense! or if there are any typos! im dead asleep on my feet.)

[@Raven74408]

I've been blocking celebrities since before it was cool. The point of blocking them isn't to defame them. It's to lesson our exposure to them and protect our own sanity. It's about not letting them take up space in our heads. The cultural obsession society has with celebrities is extremely unhealthy. We treat them like royalty or god's to worship. We invest more in their lives than we do in our own. I think people blocking and no longer giving a shit about celebrities is a very good thing for them.

[@uhdamn3944]

Meh, it's the idea. And say what you will, celebrities are always propped up by the masses. I think disillusionment from the obsession with what a-listers are doing will be good on its own, and maybe one day talented people will be the larger majority of the truly famous people. I get that this might not make a big hit in the celebrities lives anyway but it will in everyone's who unfollows, which is a win. Plus, many bigger movements start with smaller, symbolic movements. In the end, you can complain and complain, or you can believe that you, yes, even you, have an impact on this world. Though, in small ways, ideas can change the world❤

[@EnderTheTh1rd]

Taylor should do a free concert? How would that even work? Arena seats are limited, so if tickets are limited and they are given out to people, some of those people are going to sell them and pocket the money, so we're right back where we started. There aren't enough seats in any venue to give free tickets to everyone that wants them, and any reduction in ticket prices will result in more scalping. It's basic supply and demand metrics. Taylor loving her paying fans more than the poor ones is also pretty absurd, but think what you want.

[@Kyuvinnie]

In Kpop, during lockdown, some company started doing online concerts, and they still do it for free online every new year and it attracts around 200mil viewers everytime, so....that's an option

[@lxxsh2093]

Lmao yeah it's basic supply and demand 😭😭😭🙏 That won't work

[@yingbozo]

this was a incredibly idiotic criticism of taylor swift which is funny because theres actual genuine criticism of her that couldve been used in the video, which i say as someone who loves her music

[@miss_B_]

Your profile picture tells me everything I need to know. He's absolutely right.

[@yingbozo]

​@@miss_B_ youre revealing your immaturity by attacking my PFP i set a long time ago, especially since yours isnt better you could pick climate issues, blocking other people on the charts, the genocide in gaza that shes not speaking up on and you choose the fact that she wont do free concerts? seriously, get a grip care to expand on why hes right? please get an education ASAP edit: clarification on what i meant by the genocide

[@Mooncita01]

Your cat was like: no YOU are adopted.

[@GenshinGhost]

I'm gonna be honest, and many people are gonna probably be mad at this, but complaining about celebs and saying cheesy things like "were the reason their famous" just makes you look dumb. If you don't acknowledge that someone is of higher class than you or "above" you, then they simply aren't. Stop giving celebrities attention like this because all that's doing is making it seem more like the average person is "envious" of their success. I, as a normal person in society, will never belittle myself by acting as if celebs are higher than me, because they are not. I have my own worth, and celebrities have nothing on me in terms of importance as a person. It's as simple as that.

[@gin42069]

you pullin for clorinde 100%

[@GenshinGhost]

@@gin42069 yes

[@eo0-g9j]

The same people will 100% switch up and buy their stuff

[@ninkepie3764]

That's the thing. It doesn't mater if YOU or ME never act like celebrities are higher than us. They have more money, and in this society, the more money you have, the HIGHER you OBJECTIVELY are above other people. Please don't misunderstand me here: I don't say this to insult you or anything like that. I'm not saying your outlook on life isn't a mentally positive one. It is and I very much understand your POV. I'm not trying to induce anger in you or start an argument by saying this; I think ignoring the objective issue and saying "If I don't act like they're above me, then they aren't" - when they could literally ruin your life through money and loyal followers alone - is really dumb. Fundamentally (when u strip away money, status, and all that), yes, no human is above another, but that's only when you ignore everything our society is built on. When you CREATE a system/society where something CAN put some people above others (e.g, money), then as long as you live in that system/society, there are people above you. You may not choose to acknowledge it, but the truth doesn't change. Of course, money may not affect an individual's self worth, which is good, but from a materialistic standpoint, yes there are most definitely people above you.THAT'S what people are complaining about. Self worth isn't going to save you when you're barely living on minimum wage. Self worth won't stop you from going homeless. It's the worth that others see in you, through your wealth, that determines those factors. I hope i made sense.

[@hilderenshof2476]

EXACTLY!!! There are quite a lot of studies in psychology that state that gloryfication of celebrities and putting them on a pedestal is a big sign of mental health problems and often Personality problems. If only people didnt think celebrities are Gods they wouldnt have that power to begin with. They are what the people made them out to be.

[@thequeenofrock902]

I feel like people hyperfocusing on breaking down parasocial relationships with celebrities and influencers has become a parasocial relationship in itself. No one said a parasocial relationship has to be positive. In fact I would say that people who hate parasocially can be even more invested than those that love. It’s also obvious how performative the outrage is when you have people who have openly supported causes being added to block lists that people are dancing over. The actions once again center celebrities and their actions instead of centering any actionable change or even any politicians. Like celebs have influence sure, but politicians have power. It’s so crazy😭

[@khadyadjisall5708]

Two things can be true at once dear. These celebrities can influence a lot of people into donating to charities and ONG. Gal Gadot who is openly pro Israel has a charity link to donate for the Israeli cause. And guess what ? Gal Gadot has over 300 million followers, she creates a significant impact on those that follow her unfortunately.

[@thequeenofrock902]

@@khadyadjisall5708I mean, Gal Gadot is Israeli, she served in the IOF, she’s basically an ambassador for that rogue state. She’s not just a random celebrity. The fact is, people are making this more about celebrities they don’t like than the Palestinian cause. They had Gigi Hadid on blocklists despite the fact she is openly pro Palestine and also Palestinian herself. You can’t tell me when you have openly pro Palestine celebs on the same block lists as confirmed Zionists (or Zionists ain’t even on the list) that it’s anything more than just…looking like you’re trying to do good.

[@nottoday7801]

Good take

[@TheFirstHurrah]

​​@@khadyadjisall5708Anybody who donates to any charity does so of their own accord and own free will. Not because Gal Gadot tells them too. The responsibility is not on her or people who have "platforms" -- the responsibility for your own actions is on you and you alone (unless you were fed false information) to think for yourself. I vehemently object to the idea that celebrities and movies and whatnot actually have as much influence over people as some make them out to. And if they actually do, and people actually are just incapable of coming to their own conclusions about things, then that's the bigger problem right there.

[@MsBrendalina]

​​@@khadyadjisall5708 Gadot talks about those charities because the issue impacts her personally and she's at least somewhat knowledgeable about it. What the heck does Lizzo know about it? Why does her opinion matter? The LAST thing the world needs is more arrogant, uninformed Americans sticking their ignorant noses into foreign conflicts

[@brendadrang3175]

I don't understand how blocking celebrities solves anything? It doesn't increase your money, it doesn't solve the economic crisis. All it does is make influencers loose A LITTLE BIT of their money. Everyone who supports blackout would be the first ones to rent a nice apartment and go to extravagant events if they could afford it.

[@tatjana7008]

its actually increases your money, because 1) time is money, 2) you don't buy useless products they sell. the rest of comment is just recipe for some econ & marketing courses in uni or thinking before saying something

[@Katherine_xs]

It does a lot, it stops you from being possibly influenced by them

[@Stardustuk]

It impacts the algorithm and it proved to work

[@luancosta199]

The celebrities' reactions feel superficial because so is the outrage. This is exactly like the deinfluencing trend going on last year. People want to separate themselves from online manipulation by continuing to be chronically online. Next month no one will be talking about this, just like every other "outrage" that people spend weeks raging on about.

[@TheFirstHurrah]

The real way to combat this would be to have a true "return to monke" movement where people actually make an effort to get offline and like... go outside.

[@miketerry8817]

guys he got a sponsorship he's famous now

[@NoNoSquare]

Gotta block him

[@jessy1982]

Wew lost another to the influencer train

[@exentine7693]

I was hoping to find a comment like this, the absolute irony 💀💀💀

[@jollyjalapeno]

I never understood the idea of having a platform=you need to speak out. I'm not a voice for you, I don't want you to hear what I say and follow my beliefs because I said it. YOU are fully capable of forming your own thoughts and opinions, and the less I can do to affect your ability to do that, the better. Leave me alone.

[@dustmite7558]

Good for YOU but I don't want to support someone who doesn't care about their audience and the issues that impact them

[@jollyjalapeno]

@dustmite7558 If someone doesn't vocalize their support or non support, they're not doing you any harm. Maybe they don't want to share issues that are actively causing them harm, and what then, that's what you said, but the shoe's on the other foot now, now you aren't giving them support because they're being quiet. I mean, what if they support your cause anonymously, but don't want to seem like they're doing it to be seen as a good person. You can be a good person, do good things, and not talk about it, and that's how it should be. It's too common now for people to assume the worst in everyone, and seeing as how everyone is about tolerance now, including me, it's an incredible double standard.

[@Sa1tyCaramel]

I do agree about you on this, but personally, I think they should promote a go fund me of one of the suffering families because they can easily influence ppl to donate. I think that is just a good thing to do, despite your political beliefs. Helping people leave a war zone isn’t political (imo)

[@maryam-nusa]

It’s not something you have too, but it would help immensely. Imagine if someone like Taylor swift were to even say one thing about it, most, if not all her fans would look into it and not only spread the word, but also raise money to help. Personally I think if you have the platform where you can mention one thing/show it for .001 sec in a vid and it gets sold out in minutes, you can even make a reference/tell people to research the topic. You’d be surprised how many people still don’t know what happening and only think one sided news is accurate, even if it was later reported to be false. I think you can throw a mention, or say something like “I’m learning about this, you should too”. I think many are upset since most with platforms talk(ed) about issues like Ukraine, but refuse to talk about what’s happening in Palestine, Congo, Sudan and so much more.

[@DivaViews]

@@Sa1tyCaramel everything you said after "but" negated everything before it.

[@mikatu]

I never block celebrities, because I don't follow them in the first place.

[@raraavis4869]

The gap between rich and poor has reached an extreme. People all across the world can not afford to even eat properly. So why should we care about celebrities whose sole purpose is to make money? Should anything happen, it will be the rich running away because they know their wrongdoings

[@thorified1234]

Unnecessarily hating the rich is the exact reason why people are still poor. You don’t like ‘rich people’ but wanna be ‘rich people’? The irony🤦‍♂️

[@raraavis4869]

@thorified1234 No. I hate the corruption

[@thorified1234]

@@raraavis4869 So every rich person is a corrupted person? So if you ever become rich, will you be considered as a corrupted person as well?

[@AliKhan-dv6zu]

​@@thorified1234defending rich people under a yt comment section 🙄 Dude... Not saying every rich person is bad but most are. It's a fact. How many of these influencers and politicians have u seen talking on REAL issues without any underhanded motive? So it's simple. Don't support them. Even if all are corrupted , u can block all of them. No need to support people who'll be the first one to run away when u get in trouble.

[@raraavis4869]

@thorified1234 The rich I am referring to here is having a net worth of hundreds of millions or even billions of dollars, while the general public is unable to afford the cost of living. By this standard I will never be rich nor do I want to be. You can have a very successful business, but you can not convince me you've accumulated this amount of wealth without trampling on others

[@Sa1tyCaramel]

I hate when they just say every celebrity who hasn’t spoken on the war is a bad person. They could have donated thousands, but you don’t know about it. Yes, it would be AMAZING if they could promote donating to the families who are suffering, and i think they should, but in the end of the day, unless they are actively doing harm, we shouldn’t hate on them.

[@jagp135]

And the thing is that a lot of celebrities who haven't spoken out have kept their silence because, from a management and economical standpoint, that may be the best option, especially if they're not very well-versed in the topic and their audience isn't the best group of people to share that kind of viewpoint with.

[@rexibhazoboa7097]

Correctg. If they promote it and loose what they have, how can they keep donating in secret when there is no more revenue coming in? When their platform is being blacklisted by the top dogs and their preaches have been muted? Fighting an army face to face is historically a stupid move. You need to strategise to get the biggest win and minimise your losses. You don't know which celeb is strategising behind the camera, so this blocking trend is truly bullshit.

[@jagp135]

@@rexibhazoboa7097 very true. I'm not surprised that the main reason many people haven't spoken up is bc of the fact that the majority of higher ups and large corporations are Israel supporters, and would not think twice about blacklisting any celebrity that goes against them.

[@lilium_lancifolium]

You can't just donate blindly, because you have no idea where it's ending up. Especially considering it's not easy at all to get supplies into Gaza. We gave money to a family friend who is going to make the trip, which worked because we know exactly what's happening with the money. Realistically, very few people are actually willing to take supplies over to Gaza. The people that actually do are absolutely insane, and I commend them.

[@estelliqu7382]

is it not doing harm when you have millions of followers as an extremely influential and wealthy person, to not speak up on MULTIPLE active genocides going on in the world, right before our eyes? at some point, silence becomes violence. nothing will ever change if we always expect someone else to step up and do it. nobody speaks up when they are sure somebody else will. it has been over 75 years. there is not much time left.. i obviously cannot convince you to care, but think, if rihanna or beyonce was saying this, so, SO many people who didn't even know about this genocide would be aware, and i'm sure many of them would care.

[@StaubZuStaub]

I hate rich people who think they're better than poor people and I hate poor people who think they're better than rich people. Just ignore/block people you personally don't like and get over yourself. Social media trends are ridiculous vapid things.

[@linaasia8674]

Exactly block what's triggering you and move on

[@VivaciousLyla]

love this take!

[@Skaevs]

Everyone needs to remember; You're not better than anyone! You're not smarter than anyone! You're not more important than anyone!

[@samhawk4025]

I am better than you and smarter than you 😂

[@thePinkKitty3]

I just don't understand why people are so mad at celebrities. They're not the problem, corporations are

[@zuzu6563]

Queen Antoinette never actually said "Let them eat cake," a journalist wrote that line in the newspaper to aid the French Revolution. I'm from a third world country and all of us are taught that in our schooling system. It's a fact.

[@Tooskilly]

Yesss

[@blueyes6474]

Correct, we learn that in high school when I went in 2010, in the US, but people just seem to forget that fact

[@CourtneyMaria2]

There is evidence that she did help the poor, but because of her being Austrian she was mocked and ridiculed.

[@zuzu6563]

@@CourtneyMaria2 exactly. Before her execution and she went on 'trial' everyone was shocked due to her appearance. Queen Antonette was considered to be a beautiful and elegant Queen but due to all the stress she experienced while being imprisoned all her hair turned white.

[@CourtneyMaria2]

@@zuzu6563 it would be very stressful to go through what she went through during her imprisonment. A lot of people say she could have changed the king’s mind or the French government, but what they don’t understand she had no say, every move she made was monitored.

[@maxolivia4911]

Yuuup. Me and my fiancée are working class and we should not be this broke. But...we are cus groceries are costing us almost triple what they were only four years ago. It's frightening

[@CapucineNighly]

Ya, my sis who lives and works in Cali is suffering as well. Her husband and her have pretty much a high paying job (medical scientists yanno?), and is now struggling with just groceries alone(they literally earn 6 digitals per year and in Cali she doesn't even see half of that at the end). I told her she can always come back home (overseas) because even if we're all going through inflation around the world, it isn't as bad as it is in America. Because you guys are literally taxed for everything (minus breathing, but we all know it'll get there). The cost of groceries where I'm at is like how much it was when Trump was president (but before this horrible inflation, it was MUCH more cheaper). People in America can't live alone anymore because they need another person living with them to make it.

[@vanessalewis1023]

My cousin lives in canada, and believe it or not, its way worse there.

[@jessicacox2005]

Why do people expect celebrities to comment on political topics? I honestly think that's ridiculous.

[@noneofur.buisness]

idk maybe they expect people to be against genocide? such a ridiculous thing right?

[@heartsewn]

It's absolutely ridiculous that multiple celebrities commented right away about what was going on in Ukraine, showing so much support, saying we see you, being invited to the White House multiple times, and using their platforms to sway us to vote during presidential campaigns. But yeah, it's "ridiculous" that we're asking them to comment on a literal genocide. 🤐 #freepalestine 🍉🇵🇸💚

[@P3891]

@@noneofur.buisness stop acting like you care. you're just following the wave until you get bored

[@jessicacox2005]

@@noneofur.buisness Why stop there? Shouldn't celebrities be speaking up against every atrocity that exists 24/7. Genocide is not some new thing either. It's been happening in China.

[@ilovedogsilovethem]

@@noneofur.buisness stop deliberately oversimplifying the issue. you know it's not just "being against genocide". plus, you can be against genocide and not feel the need to speak out on it, because i guarantee most people will not be satisfied with a simple "genocide is bad!" and will expect a much more detailed, complex statement that maybe the celeb just does not have or care about. the vast majority of these celebs have contracts and PR considerations they have to consider when speaking out about anything. the wrong thing could ruin their careers and livelihoods, which is something that normal people don't have to worry about. not everyone has to make their opinions on everything known all the time. it's ok for people to just live their lives. caring about depressing topics like this is emotionally and mentally draining, and it's okay for people to choose their own mental health and just focus on their own lives. we do that every day. it doesn't make us bad people, just human. it's easy to point fingers. much harder to have empathy, which is ironic considering the moral high horse you're trying to leverage

[@DojaRat12]

Why are people getting mad at celebrities for not speaking out in the way that YOU want them to? She’s an entertainer, her career is to entertain people. She’s not a politician, so why does she have to speak about political issues? Imagine if we actually went after the people who could really change how things are (the government), with this much energy.

[@Peoplearesoweirdhelp-]

I think it's because this is not about politics. It's about humanity. There is an ongoing geno cide, meaning an extermination of a group of people. If people are getting k!lled for no reason for 8 months now, don't you think people have had enough of being ignored? And yes, celebrities do have the power to change. Look at Taylor swift and Selena Gomez. Only recently, another massacre has taken place at a refugee camp. Yes 4 hostages were saved, but 210 civilians were murdered and no, group H had nothing to do this. If they do, prove it because I can prove the countless massacres that's been going on since 1948. I ask you to please educate yourself on this matter before it's too late, the choice is yours however. Have a nice week.

[@cachalotreal]

talk about selfish

[@youre764]

Why are people getting mad at other people for choosing to not support celebrities they don’t like anymore? Why are people acting like the only two choices are attacking politicians and blocking celebrities and it’s either one or the other?

[@DojaRat12]

@@youre764 When did I say I was mad at people who don’t support her? I really don’t care who people choose to support, however some of the reasons that people are giving to justify her being a “bad person”, etc, make zero sense. Typically, government officials are the ones that make changes when it comes to military and humanitarian aid. Hence, my recommendation of people going after government officials with the same energy as blocking celebrities. I never once said you had to support her, but some people are acting like she’s single handedly supporting genocide 💀. Also, I’m discussing the fact that it’s not her responsibility to speak out, as I said before, she’s not a politician, she’s an entertainer. And, I was addressing the fact that getting angry that celebrities aren’t saying what you want them to, is foolish. I don’t know why you think I’m saying that you can’t block celebrities and attack politicians, because I said nothing of the sort.

[@yingbozo]

sure, celebrities definitely shouldnt be forced to, but people should be allowed to withdraw their support for whatever reason. im personally not participating in the block-out trend as its not like i follow celebs in the first place, but im glad theyre actually doing something. also, i obviously cant say for certain, but im inclined to believe that these people who care enough to block celebrities are far more likely to have pressured politicians to take action than the average person. anecdotally ive done work experience for my local MP and we've had staggering amounts of concerns about the ongoing g3nocide. people are pressuring politicians, at least over here, but how can we expect anything to done if they do not take the side of the innocent lives?

[@bakaichigo]

The best part is how Marie-Antoinette literally did not ever say that line and that it's a misattribution/historical lie. :'D

[@tammytan2635]

Yeah, but we literally need a class revolution, so it’s relevant and fitting that an influencer is the one that is initiating the rage.

[@alaahassan1110]

But she kept shut, she didn't do anything about the famine

[@Nermeen.]

That doesn't hide the fact that she was a horrible queen

[@ayaloid7533]

Yeah but still it's a bad move .. Because other people is suffering now , natural disaster..war .. people starving dying ... Then all this Artist playing dress up in Met Gala ..Ada Hayley said that just like cherry on top of ice .. She opened people eyes , all this Artist and influencer that rich because of the people like us giving them money and platform ... Is useless ..

[@adam.n-steve]

​@@alaahassan1110not sure about the famine but she did indeed provided a fair share of charities. In terms of politically, she does not have as big as influence like most ppl think because she's not born as a French royalty. It's interesting because she's not exactly a villain but she is indeed lived in a castle while everyone starved to death.

[@luckyducky7819]

My god, I just really hate ticktockers.

[@miriamhavard7621]

😂😂😂😂😊 Sad to say, that's relatable.

[@ClamorDiGilgamesh]

Same. People need to adopt digital minimalism and delete these stupid apps and stop following other people. Everyone should just mind their business. Social media is cursed.

[@kikiwasactuallyhere]

That’s why I avoid the app tbh 😭😭😭

[@madnessintomagic]

um… She’s more of a KZbinr. And TikTok is hella valuable. I’m in my 50’s and spending time on Tiktok has been *refreshing* because it’s filled with truth tellers and educating people, destroying misinformation with reality, and allowing citizens to communicate directly and organize directly in ways other platforms intentionally prevent. It’s *actual* free speech. I’ve **never** seen a “viral dance” video and I’ve been on tiktok for a few minutes daily for months. Maybe don’t bloviate about things you clearly don’t KNOW *anything* about.

[@myreenn]

the point is valid though? the west is actually one of the very few places where celebs get put on a pedestal, come anywhere else and see how local celebs get treated

[@Joohee4]

Finalllly someone exposes her all the way. How can someone who GREW UP IN AN ELITIST community (Excelsior, MN- I know because I’ve worked there as a massage therapist- verrrry elitist) dated a pro athlete, been a model, lives in a $17,009 NY apartment, have 10 million tik tok subscribers claim not to be elitist?? She is gaslighting us all and that’s why she is getting her karma

[@Noqqin]

While I agree with your overall message, please learn what "gaslighting" means and start using it within the proper context. I see so many people like you just throwing this word around randomly and seldom are any of you correctly using it.

[@Ocean_Monae]

Karma for what??? I'll say her statement is very much delulu, but how is that karma worthy??

[@swatkabombonica4103]

I mean, people watch her because she's a pretty, rich girl. It's what people do, for whatever reason

[@Diamond1234]

Uh, I wouldn't say gaslighting, I think she really believes she's "normal", she's just ignorant of what it's like to be a normal person. More tone deaf, if anything.

[@CreativeC13]

I mean just because someone grew up in an area doesn't mean it necessarily defines them- there are a lot of people from Edina for example who aren't elitist.

[@the_hearthfire]

Honestly I saw no issue with that video and her audio. As a history lover all I saw was a Marie Antoinette Roccoco era inspired outfit/style with an audio from the movie thrown over it. It’s not that deep. Yes she grew up lower/middle class and may feel like a normal person, and now has grown fame and fortune. I don’t think she needed to downplay her wealth and current status like she did to try to deflect criticism. She should have just stuck to the facts and acknowledged that she is upper class in terms of income and fame now. And honestly there is nothing wrong with that. Who cares? Good for her that she has money and is living her dream life. I can only be happy for her, but also a bit disappointed that she caved to media pressure by lowering herself and her reputation with that response video. Seeing that she took it down quite fast, I believe she realized that response was poor. I don’t care if she knows famous people, has connections and uses them, etc. she is not exploiting people, manipulating, or putting out hateful videos. I watch her videos because they are funny and help take my mind off any stresses in my day. I don’t want her political opinions or to be lectured about world affairs, wealth/classes, and celebrity status. She doesn’t need to talk about it. I don’t want to hear it. I will research stuff on my own and develop my own opinions. No one should have to be fed opinions and news via social media figures. If individuals care they will keep up with normal news on their own time. A random influencer or celebrity is not obligated to be your teacher or a political figure - nor should they be.

[@spg7868]

Couldn't have said it better!! idk why plp were being this negative. but anyways, that's a beautiful way of writing you have. Have a pleasant day!! 😊

[@chelseaxoxo784]

Exactly

[@Pumpkingirl1228]

This is crazy. You’re demanding that people take a stand but only a stand that you agree with but then because they couldn’t tell the future and didn’t say anything before you asked them to, they’re being performative. And if they’ve been quietly supportive then they get crucified for not speaking out but then if they’re obvious and showing receipts of support then they’re performative. I’m not a big fan of celebrity culture but there’s no right answer here

[@custom4095]

I mean, they did have 7 months to speak up. This isn’t the first time we’ve asked people to speak up on this genocide. Them only speaking up now is them basically saying that they care more about their money than a whole population dying out because of Israeli colonizers

[@damiendemaxofficial4496]

@custom4095 I'm not saying anything is right or wrong but you can't force anyone to speak out about something. These people have big projects and several contracts on the line. They don't have time to talk about every single things that's going on and nor are they obligated to. I'm not saying that it's right and I'm not excusing it but it's the reality of the situation.

[@WillyKillya]

​@@custom4095totally, not to mention the Palestine terrorists

[@katc2040]

​@custom4095 and why do you want them to speak out? what does them saying i support palestine do? make you feel good?

[@こんとる-k3b]

@@katc2040 a lot of people like the feeling of controlling others actions, that's why npc livestream is so popular rn

[@peachylove4980]

It's so disappointing to see haylee be so out of touch, the irony being that she has made more than enough videos making fun of celebrities and bad apology videos. Everyone defending Haylee is absolutely delusional. She pays 17k A MONTH for her PENTHOUSE. She needs to make an actual apology video.

[@roddo1955]

Who cares? Really! Who actually cares what Haylee does or says?😂😂😂 it's not YOUR money she is spending! You just watch her and get mad and it's for free. She don't make you pay for her appartment?

[@roddo1955]

@Adian_b186 i am technically and biologically a 'bro' but, I will gladly accept the 'sis', hunty!☺

[@eggi4443]

apology video? why do you care so much, it literally wouldn't change a thing

[@Someoneisnotavailable]

It isn't that she's out of touch, it's that we're all ignorant about the problems in this world. We don't know every problem everyone is facing. There are wars going on the other side of the country and there is starvation in an area no one talks about. While one conflict gets more support, there are others that get none.

[@MJane-sensei_darlins]

It's her money tho. She should be able to use it as she wants

[@cosmoscaptainyuri]

Glad she’s getting backlash, never got why she got famous, always come off as performative and « were in the same boat! » type of behavior Edit: Holy shit guys, Im not saying she deserves to be canceled for being annoying jesus. Since when is it sadistic to think that you need to apologize when you do something shitty? 😭😭

[@bakaichigo]

Its the comedy skit shorts and the "Life of a Billionaire's Girlfriend" parody influencer skits, I think, that made her famous. Her most popular content

[@MaryAnnSweetAngel]

I didn't like a video she posted warning about trypophobia but the thumbnail had the trypophobia image 🙃

[@StellaM22]

I cant stand her

[@kathryni7037]

its because she is funny lol

[@shmwmlam3953]

Thats some stupid reasoning. You glad someone got blacklash for no reason because you don't like her? There is far more toxic chanels and celebrities that really need to be blocked. Like that nikado avakado, kadashians...etc. also almost every creator who waste food for content.

[@paulaa5866]

I'd like to add that the blocking celebrities as mostly started by Bisan, who called for blocking celebrities who could talk about what's happening and are actively choosing not to. I don't deny some north-americans also called for it, but bisan made it big!

[@loloppololp9304]

Right. Apparantly if you're a celebrity, you have no control over your voice 😂😂 get out of here

[@t3knosoulz]

That "you're not earning enough, and you're not doing enough. Mom and dad can't do that for you" pisses me off SO MUCH as someone who grew up in a "fend for yourself" household. I was raised an only child. My dad was always off with the military. My mom was all but useless. I was completely on my own with homework. I had to teach myself to cook. To do taxes. To build a resume and apply for jobs. I had to teach myself to drive. I have been teaching MYSELF for my entire life and I know a lot of people my age that grew up the same exact way. So the people with their shitty podcasts will have to forgive some of us for the fact that we're often behind or not where we "should" be financially. We were set up to fail by generations that had shit handed to them. Some of us will never have the luxury of a retirement.

[@fullmoonlite]

Preach!! 🙏 I had to teach my self everything my friends parents taught them already.. much ❤ to u

[@lola-sz8gq]

hot take: celebs shouldn't have to speak out for political problems. if they want to its their choice but not not their job. when they do speakout ppl call them performative but when they don't ppl say oh blockout, when in reality, they probably dont want to share their political opinions.

[@roselineanna7427]

It's like basically people want to use celebrities as use and throw items... Use them when their thoughts align, throw them away when their thoughts don't align.

[@TimaHypenoodles]

Even when there’s an active genocide?

[@perpetualheadache6124]

@@TimaHypenoodlesYes. Most celebrities are not politicians or social experts. People have brought attention to Palestine largely without them.

[@roselineanna7427]

@@perpetualheadache6124 exactly. They are human, they have the right to speak or abstain about certain issues .

[@misskingii]

THIS IS IT RIGHT HERE!

[@Pink_eclipse-k3y]

I love how he said that elite celebrities use us for ad revenue while he promoted an ad to use us for ad revenue.

[@glockaholic57]

hehe but hes probably not swimming in the revenue money but just tryna mane a living

[@sacrebleu2665]

"haha u say u hate society but u participate in it. am so clever" there is no ethical consumption under capitalism or for this matter morally right way of earning income. hes trynna make some dough not fund his vacations to maldives. the irony is tragic

[@cheyennec5546]

She’s an Internet personality. Not a billionaire, politician, or anyone with immense power and influence actively causing you financial strain. I understand why y’all are upset with her, but I feel like this level of upset over a model who mostly makes goofy videos online and doesn’t think about you should more than prompt you to log off and get a life.

[@TheSarahskaninchen]

I think it is more that many people are perplexed why people Like her (and many Others) get that much Attention. 😂 But other people Like to watch it, so thats it, simple as that.

[@tatjana7008]

Just because she uses another platform, doesn't mean she should not be accountable. Its not like internet is not part of media and our lifes. And "get a life" comment, ignorance is indeed a bliss, that why we live in such world

[@saby777]

​@@tatjana7008 there are bigger things to worry about than a random influencer. If someone chooses not to speak, their choice. They don't owe us anything. Plus, there are horrible things going on in the world & if people are getting upset by some dumb girl online, they need to seriously reconsider their life choices. There are much better things one can do with their time. What happened after boycotting her? Nothing. She keep making videos & people in millions still watch & like them. She doesn't owe us anything, especially when she didn't do anything wrong in the first place. That Marie Antoinette quote video was dumb & hilarious. Thousands of people used it before she did, literally in the same context. People on the internet need to touch grass. That girl can't go and become America's president & change everything. Better criticize those who do this horrible shit in the first place. Nobody has the guts to make videos calling those real culprits out.

[@KingBasieSims4]

@@tatjana7008 are you seriously pressed at the suggestion to "get a life" outside of focusing on people who don't know you, and follower counts will rise again once the rest of you move on to the next rich influencer/celebrity who pissed you off because they don't relate to you having way less than them? seriously, that's the hill you're choosing? Is social media seriously your be all and end all that you find ignorance in being asked to go out and focus on your own life???? Genuinely asking because I fail to see how a form of entertainment that you can switch off from when you're unhappy with the content, can have such an impact specifically on your life and finances when people barely hold the people who actively do accountable.

[@sumivampireprincess]

Preach

[@it_is_bo810]

Honestly, all those people look pathetic. Hyperfocusing on celebrities, what they do and what they don’t do. How they dress, what they say, what they think. It just looks like people are jealous and are trying to feel better about themselves by being “right” and creating block lists on the internet. It’s like… get a life

[@mynosycats]

so true...

[@alexkar7511]

Don't forget that a big part behind the Blockout campaign was not being vocal about Palestine and the ongoing genocide. At the same time when Gaza was being bombed, social media and TV were flooded with images of lavish dresses and a woman being held by men to go up the stairs because her dress was too tight, completely shifting the focus from what should matter to what is of no interest. Also, blockout has now been expanded to influencers who haven't spoken out at all regarding Palestine, even though they have a huge following

[@civi-s4j]

why shoud it matter ? Are palestinians suddenly US citizens ?

[@Sarah-cd2tv]

@@civi-s4j nope just another woke liberal trend

[@lakshyK]

@@civi-s4j it should matter because the US government is using money (probably the taxpayers' money) to fund Israel's genocide against the Palestinians, who are humans

[@nicotinedietcoke]

@@civi-s4jit’s called humanity hope that helps 🫶🏼

[@ej28]

@@Sarah-cd2tv not the wokes!

[@Lauren-pl7bi]

I think it's fine if somebody doesn't want to speak on a political topic if they aren't in politics. I mostly find it really frustrating how the average person can barely afford rent and groceries, while these A listers are hoarding their wealth like dragons. Almost nobody in our generation can afford a house, and many of us are permanently stuck having to have roommates, even if we're ready to start our own family with significant others. I don't know what the solution to this is. I know that these celebrities aren't the *REASON* the economy is in shambles, but they're a huge symptom and seem not to care about the little guys. I think the change needs to start by addressing the paltry minimum wage and massively inflated economy.

[@daisybuilds_4353]

but i mean what are they supposed to do, donate all of their money?

[@Lauren-pl7bi]

Taxes, too. Everyone knows that the obscenely wealthy do everything they can to avoid paying taxes, which is absurd. We need to tax the rich.

[@appolloschein5370]

@@Lauren-pl7bi the rich are taxed..you know not all rich people are famous, and not all famous people are rich? just because YOU dont have their money doesnt mean that yall dont have anything in common 😭😭😭😭

[@Lauren-pl7bi]

@appolloschein5370 I'm well aware. But through shady money moving, or having customers donate to charity so the business can get a hefty tax write off, there's a lot to fix there.

[@yatripatel8119]

?!?!?! the first half of your comment was genuinely delusional. Addressing the second half, The minimum wage policy won't work, A guy who doesn't wanna work is residing in XXX place this new policy I being implemented which pushes the guy into not doing work more. govt has decided to give me XXX amt of money why should I work.

[@Rinnaaliz]

It also has to do with how jarring the MET Gala was on my tiktok feed directly followed by families in Rafah being bombed and begging for help to get out of the ashes. THAT'S what made me livid. 75k tickets, and the majority of those celebrities had not mentioned Palestine. They are not OBLIGATED to speak on issues, but addressing them reaches out to more people and the more pressure we put on officials, by protesting, donating, and sharing the attrocities being commited with American tax dollars could help even a little to get the Palestinian people the help they deserve. Celebrities can easily get families out of Rafah where tens of thousands of people, living paycheck to paycheck, are doing their best to donate money for esims and to aid families out of Palestine. The blockout is a trend that is, honestly, ineffective in the longterm but it never hurts to lose the idolisation of celebrities.

[@abcxyz3378]

Politicians can do this and more, I think the anger is misguided towards the wrong group of people.

[@runyinggao]

put perfectly 🫶

[@no_one24]

so true

[@thisorthat7746]

@@abcxyz3378 im so done with people calling it a "political issue" that should be left to "politicians". no. its a human issue. its for ALL HUMANS to talk about and address and raise awareness and do everything they can to help the cause.

[@yingbozo]

AGREED, why are people so pissed against people no longer supporting celebrities they were never obligated to support in the first place? ive noticed a lot of pro israel comments in this video from the people who are mad at people blocking celebrities and i think thats related a SINGLE post or even 0.005% of an a listers income could save so many lives its inconceivable, but they refuse to do it because they might lose some money... and people support this? is this the state of the world we live in? class solidarity can never exist bc of these ppl istg

[@user-wk3sm8ek5q]

This is so stupid. Everytime an influencer makes an apology it never gets accepted. It was literally just a sound… be fr. If she had known it would cause backlash she wouldn’t have done it but it’s impossible to know what people are going to get mad at next.

[@Beachycoconut]

Finally like i don’t get why people are so mad abt this like it’s a sound and she is just trying to show her dress but no people have to get mad at this like why aren’t we mad at actual problems in the world

[@saraisdiaryy]

yess, i was waiting for people to talk about this!!

[@JimmyRobins]

Always happy to provide!

[@wy4553]

This anger towards celebrities is misplaced. They shouldn't be required to be a platform for various political subjects or give out things for free. Instead of acting so entitled towards celebrities, people should be putting this energy into their elected politicians, you know, people whose salary are actually paid by taxpayers and are in positions of power to make change.

[@yingbozo]

why cant people focus on the politicians and celebrities? also im pretty certain that the group of people who are angry at celebrities for not speaking up are more likely to also be in the group of people putting the energy into the politicians celebrities literally have the ability to save so many lives with a single post, or genuinely less than 0.5% of their money being donated to charities. they shouldnt be required to, but people have the right to drop their support for any celeb and be angry at them for whatever reason, and this reason is clearly enough for a lot of people

[@90sGrungeKid]

"Influencers" are the worst of the worst. Can't stand them

[@praptibhattacharjee8126]

Yes. Infact rather than blocking celebrities, who clearly have risen from their talents and not by posting tiktoks, we should block these entitled influencers.

[@nessaahmad4781]

When being taken to the guillotine to be beheaded, Marie Antoinette apologised to the executioner after accidently stepping on his toes.

[@MsBrendalina]

She was an unfortunate young woman who was sacrificed as a scapegoat by angry men.

[@susuileamura]

​@@MsBrendalinaAntoinette was put on trial for treason, theft, and sexual abuse against her son. Her trial lasted an intense thirty-two hours over the course of a mere two days. She was found guilty and executed by guillotine on October 16, 1793

[@Sweetheart-qh5li]

So ? But she was still a horrible queen.

[@angelikalaser7778]

​@@Sweetheart-qh5li lol there was not one good queen in history 😂 they are all inbreads who got to throne due to genetic lottery. They all thought about power and their own gain.

[@jagp135]

@@Sweetheart-qh5li she was a consort, a Queen consort has zero power and is basically just there to sit and look pretty next to the king.

[@sarahg7996]

She doesn’t realize her ignorance isn’t an excuse. She is wealthy a “well educated”. If she didn’t know the context of the quote that is 100% her own failure.

[@Someoneisnotavailable]

Ignorance isn't knowing about something consciously. If you're ignorant, you won't know something. Not everyone knows the same thing, and she doesn't prefer to partake in this situation. She wasn't asking for it, she was just simply ignorant. Everyone is. If someone's well educated, you expect them to know the same quote? So how was it her fault if she didn't consciously know about it.

[@egoisticflamingo5869]

celebrities aren't who we should be targeting to spread awareness and change the opinions of. we focus on them and completely ignore the sick political leaders of our nations that dont do anything

[@runyinggao]

we can do both, and celebs are way more accessable

[@awesomecat489]

His comment at 6:20 that Taylor Swift doesn't care about her fans camping outside the stadium to let them in doesn't make any sense. It's not like the venue is large enough for that many people to begin with, and even if it was the fans that actually payed for tickets would be mad that others were let in for free. Taylor also has an entire team of people behind her organizing these concerts making sure everything runs smoothly, so alot of what happens she probably doesn't have alot of control over. I don't know if people forget this or just like to blame things on the artist but alot of times it's not their fault.

[@rhuonaChanel]

Let's not forget the tragic incidents that happen due to overcrowding in stadiums during concerts.

[@Gertrude1936]

Oh my god thank you so much. I’ve just made a comment very similar to this because it’s just not possible for her to do that.

[@stormpetrel5645]

Also, full concerts for free? Is he out of his mind? Does he know how expensive that is? Not just for Taylor herself, but for the entire brand. They'd go out of business if she had to deliver as she did during her last tour. She may have a lot of money, but sticking to the standards costs such a fortune that she'd most likely still go bankrupt

[@tiamystic]

He sounds insufferable tbh. Just wanting free materialistic shit that doesn’t matter

[@anniehershel815]

Congrats on the sponsor!

[@JimmyRobins]

Thank you!

[@sapphosgirlfriend]

I think the best thing we can do is block and ignore all these celebs and big names while we keep protesting and donating 🇵🇸☮️

[@sumivampireprincess]

Ppl need a reality check. Always waiting for some gossip its a dangerous mindset

[@13lilsykos]

All these people screaming about what they wealthy SHOULD do with their money makes me wonder if they'd like someone telling them what to do with their money. Do I think wealthy people should do more to help the planet, etc? Sure. Do I think they HAVE to do and get mad when they don't? No. Why? I don't want someone telling me what to do with my money. I feel like forcing people to speak out on subjects they don't want to is kinda like bullying. Again, with if someone doesn't want to speak on something, they shouldn't have to because people don't being like told what to do.

[@nonameface90]

Finally someone with common sense and not obsessed to live in other ppl's wallets...

[@13lilsykos]

@@nonameface90 - I'm so glad you posted something. I was waiting for massive amounts of hate for expressing my opinion. Differing opinions are not well received these days, it seems.

[@Lolamy]

half the people saying it would probably hoard their money too 💀

[@louf.111]

THIS! 😭

[@Vashtappening33]

Exactly this! I am not defending those celebrities but how well do we know them to criticize them for not voicing out their view when there is a huge possibility that they had silently donated to the cause? Also if they did donate, how much money will the public need for them to donate to not make them out as stingy?

[@xxromanovaxx6682]

"Let them eat cake" wasn't said by MA, the quote was made by a spanish or portuguese princess hundreds of years before MA was born. And it wasn't that MA was indifferent to her people's suffering, she lived in her Royal bubble in Versailles, far away from the normal people. When she first arrived in Paris, she experienced nothing but love from the French, so throughout her time as a Queen she thought the people were happy and content with their lives. And during that time a Queen's role was to birth heirs, not more, not less. She was even told by her mother to not meddle in politics, since it wasn't her place, she was never expected to be an activist girlboss and she's never raised as one.

[@roddo1955]

All that writing and you still get it wrong. I hope it will inspire people to simply pick up a history book or do some research instead of a youtube comment.

[@eggi4443]

she was just another isolated puppet

[@XOXO-eo5vu]

​@@roddo1955I am a French historian and this is what we are taught in history University. The archives don't lie. Why would you open you mouth on a field you have no clue on and that you high-likely never studied to begin with? Would you say a physician he should open a book because what he is saying is different from what you ve been taught in a Tiktok video?

[@Sweetheart-qh5li]

@@XOXO-eo5vu Nobody gives a sh*t about your useless degree, "history university," 💀 "The archives don't lie." I think you weren't meant for that job

[@Sweetheart-qh5li]

@@XOXO-eo5vu Too much ego, undeveloped frontal lobe to be a high school teenager, who is a self-proclaimed unprofessional historian. It's interesting how "historian" is debating (just silly insults, not any actual facts) on stupid KZbin videos rather than debating with real-life other historians.

[@LyntzbartzkyPerez]

This is exactly what I thought would happen, people would demand for celebrities to comment on conflicts, they would without really meaning anything from it, then everyone online would get mad because they’re not sincere about what they’re saying. I wonder tf why

[@Not-important-y1b]

I swear people would have gotten mad whether she paid or didn’t for the dress, whether she got invited to walk the carpet or just be a host and the list goes on. And when other celebrities actually do reach out it’s never enough. It’s not ruining someone else’s life because another persons is better than yours. This whole thing is just toxic and messed up from every angle

[@averageperson434]

She’s not faking humility, she never was acting like it, her thing is trolling her audience so she does a lot of satire

[@someguywithlowcreditscore4816]

Yeah, Haley is the queen of trolling and this people couldn't understand...

[@sayonarameaninggoodbye]

Literally,

[@Skaevs]

Literally true. She said the quote in irony because she was trying to appear spoiled.

[@sae-]

Oh wooow, a random blocked a celeb that is and will still be employed, have collabs/invested or own brands wooow such activism, so brave, kudos to all of you brave and incredible souls. Here a golden star ⭐️

[@nothanks71]

Kim Kardashian lost over 3 million followers on Instagram the day this movement started and Lizzo set up a gofundme page for a Palestinian family the day after.

[@yingbozo]

@@nothanks71 i agree, while its incredibly performative atleast theyre doing SOMETHING, and that something has lead to gofundme pages being set up. even if this whole thing only helped 1 family at least it helped, and i can bet its more than these people criticising the people blocking celebrities have ever done.

[@dopamine5170]

one thing that really ticks me off is people saying "only the educated should speak on things" because yes! i agree! i don't want people who dont know shit running their mouths. however, people like hayley take it as "but im not educated, so i'm not gonna say anything" rather than "so i will seek out information and resources so i can do my best to help my fellow human beings". this sort of bystander/compliancy attitude does absolutely no one any favours

[@iam14andthisisdeep53]

not knowing should always lead to educating NEVER to silence

[@appolloschein5370]

yeah but thats just contradictory, they dont *need* to seek out resources if theyre not going to speak out, why dont you do it? form your own opinions?

[@dopamine5170]

@@appolloschein5370 i'm not quite sure what youre trying to say? i'm saying thay if they don't know much about a topic but "want to leave it to the people who do know" they should become the people who do know. information isn't just granted by the Fairy Of Knowledge in your sleep, people have to become eduacted and thus speak out like they claim to want to do. the more informed voices speaking out the better. i'm not forcing anyone to do anything, just pointing out that sitting still and letting the "informed" people do the work isn't as good when you could easily join the informed people :)

[@Someoneisnotavailable]

​@@dopamine5170what do you want the world to know about?

[@zakeernalir2871]

“I’m not educated” is an excuse to be ignorant. Especially in 2024?!

[@xClaraDelRey]

Everyone’s getting mad that celebrities aren’t doing enough about world problems, and/or politics. That’s 100% fair, especially when their opinions are valued by many people, which is why we consider them “influencers”. What I don’t understand is when they finally speak up about these things, people go all crazy and mad about them having an opinion. They tell them it isn’t in their place (or whatever) that they shouldn’t get involved. 😐? You see what I mean? Or is it just me?

[@abcxyz3378]

Yes! Especially when they disagree and they are called uneducated