Halloween Ends | One Year Later | It Still Rules

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Guys. I get the urge to immediately spam the comments saying the movie blows, but if you’re gonna take the time to comment, take the time to listen to what someone has to say. Love y’all ❤

[@OddHands]

Halloween Ends was so outside the box that it actually made me turn around and change my opinion on Friday the 13th part 5. I honestly never understood why people liked part 5 until I saw Halloween Ends. Then it clicked. Both movies subvert expectations and take big risks despite the possible negative consequences. Say what you will, but both are examples of courageous filmmaking.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@OddHands Yes they are. And I will never fault a director for saying, “let’s change this up a bit”.

[@ianrepash8015]

Dude I know it’s not perfect but it might be my favorite of the new trilogy.

[@SlipspaceGames]

I’m curious… I noticed after Corey murders Allison’s boss, he seems astonished by his hand having miraculously healed immediately following the event, was this not an indication of supernatural strength attributed to killing with Michael?

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@SlipspaceGamesYes. That was the intent!

[@tparkerevans7165]

“The more he kills, the more he transcends into something else, impossible to defeat. Fear. People are afraid. That is the true curse of Michael.” I always interpreted that as the more Michael kills the larger his legend becomes, the more his evil spreads as it affected the town of Haddonfield which they created their own monster, Corey and eventually led to his downward spiral right before he meets Michael. Also one year later, Halloween Ends still rocks and is still my favorite sequel

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

You can’t actually care that much about what movies people like, can you?

[@tobymattana5320]

Who said I cared however "much" you're thinking? i'm just curious 🎃@@TheLostRiverDriveIn

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Huh? I don’t care what you have or haven’t watched lol. I care about people arguing subjectivity on the internet. If it’s his favorite sequel, it’s his favorite sequel. You don’t actually care that he likes it so much, do you?

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@tobymattana5320 you’re good! I appreciate your level headed response, I really do. Debate is always welcome here

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@tobymattana5320 give me a forum to debate you. I’d love to. Any place.

[@TheShape_1031]

The common complaints of Halloween Ends: "Michael was weak in Ends" - That's the point. Throughout most of Kills, he was probably pumped up on adrenaline. The mob beating absolutely wrecked him. He was dying from years of untreated, infected wounds. And he's 65. He is quite literally an old man. He's still a human, afterall. "Michael got beat up by a nerd who got beat up by band bullies" - This one is my favourite. First of all, at this point in the story, Corey was infected with Michael's evil. THAT'S WHY he was able to go toe to toe with him. With this, it also made him stronger. Also, he never "beat up" Michael. He used Michael's own momentum against him, tripping him up causing Michael's head to smack into the ground. Secondly, those "band bullies" (I love how people have to shoehorn the word "band" in there) were literally the same size as Corey. Anyone can get their ass kicked by a group of teenagers. You're lying if you can't. What's more, Paul Brad Logan, the screenwriter of Ends and author of the Ends novelization, said in a recent interview, that he himself was once bullied by members of a marching band. The fact that they are in a band is irrelevant. "It's just an Allyson and Corey love story" - No, it's not that. It's a story about one person's descent into darkness and it showed that his attraction to Allyson turned into obsession because the evil was taking over. THAT is the point of that relationship. "Michael is hardly even in it" - Okay... But he was there the whole time. You could literally feel his presence. He tainted the town with his evil. And you know, he actually had less screentime in the original. Hell, Freddy Krueger only had about 7/8 minutes of screentime in the original Elm Street. But did that matter? No. Because you could still feel his presence. It's all about quality over quantity. Using him sparingly. "It's not a Halloween film" - Except, it quite literally is: a) It continues the story of the OG, 2018 and Kills. b) Michael Myers is in it. c) It takes place on Halloween. How is it NOT a Halloween film? Oh, I get it. Because it's not 2 hours of Michael going house to house, stalking and slaughtering people... Is that what everyone wanted? Just a repeat of 2018 and Kills? Then everyone would complain that Ends was just the same as the others. Now they complain that it's too different. These filmmakers just cannot win with this fanbase. They made the right choice. They branched out. Gave us something fresh. Something unique. And you know what? I would have them do it again. Oh, and let me just touch on what Laurie said in Kills. "The more he kills, the more he transcends into something impossible to defeat: Fear. People are afraid. THAT is the true curse of Michael." People thought she was talking about Michael himself becoming unstoppable, which is why they are pissed off with how he is utilized in Ends. She was literally talking about the fear he creates. The more people are afraid, the more Michael's evil taints the town of Haddonfield. For 4 years after the events of 2018 and Kills, his presence was felt throughout the entirety of Haddonfield. Haddonfield was just a cesspool of dread and fear. And when watching Ends, you can feel it yourself. Not one point did I not think that Michael wasn't there. He was there the whole time. His evil presence was seeping through every crack and crevis of Haddonfield. Symbolism, folks.

[@tylerbonabon9382]

Facts. 💯

[@flaviodrusovalerio2825]

My two cents: I don't care about Corey, I don't need to know his history, he adds nothing, he should not be in the way in an Halloween movie. This was meant to close the Michael Myers arch. It did not.

[@TheShape_1031]

How did it not close the Michael Myers arch?

[@GoodGuyJason25]

I will always freaking love All 3 of these DGG Halloween films ✅️💯💯💯 #Michaelmyersforever

[@reviewbomb85]

I tried to give it another shot last week. I shut it off 30 mins in. It's cool you like it.

[@dlangley49]

It would've been better had this arc happened to him over 3 movies, maybe a side character in the first, have the accident in the second and see him get a little darker then the payoff would've been better

[@idiot_city5444]

The character of Corey never even existed when they made the first 2 movies lol, he was born during the pandemic

[@Bobby_Hall]

@@idiot_city5444The script for Ends was written in early 2019, right after the script for Kills was written. So the Corey character existed well before the pandemic.

[@idiot_city5444]

@@Bobby_Hall you're wrong lol

[@Bobby_Hall]

@@idiot_city5444 Paul Brad Logan, the main screenwriter for Ends, said the script was written in early 2019.

[@VenomandEddieBrock]

Halloween (2018) - it was perfect Halloween Kills (2021) - PRETTY DAMN GOOD Halloween Ends (2022) - it’s the biggest piece of dog shit

[@millyoneyedeaz1350]

I take issue with saying Kills isnt a "true" continuation of the story fro 2018. (that language encourgares the "not a true fan" nonsense so prevalent these days) Thats not even a matter of opinion, thats factually wrong. 2018 is already setting up the theme of "one monster creating others" and establishing that Michael isn't after Laurie. Kills plays to that exactly. Michael isnt after Laurie or her family so he's not heading to the hospital. I think calling this trilogy disjointed, is a bit misguided (i also read the synopsis thats attached to the trailer so i knew what to expect, plus the fact 2018 and Kills was heavyhanded on showing this isnt a Michael vs Laurie story, im still shocked people were so suprised) Far as the writing for Laurie, sorry bro, it was ABSOLUTELY NOT meant for us to take it literally. She;s talking about the fear he causes from his carnage. The only way to take it literal, is to distort what she says. Far as the mob, if Beatrice can kill 50 people in Kill Bill, Bruce Lee can kill 100 men (pick any movie) than Michael can kill a dozen drunk, scared people with no training. Come on man, this the same franchise where Michael slaughtered a whole police force, then couldnt handle Rachel Caruthers by herself. same franchise where he killed a dozen of doctors then couldnt handle Paul Rudd's Tommy Doyle. if he struggled in his prime at 21 with 17 year old girls Laurie, Lynda and Annie, then a TWENTY FOUR year old man can get the best of him when he's old and dying. Overall, my point is some people are just thick headed and wont engage with a work on its own terms. When Kills was coming out, JLC said, "the last movie was laurie's movie, this movie is the town's movie" and instead of accepting that, people just whine and wonder why the focus was on the town instead of Michael and Laurie, with that, there's your explanantion for the vitriol against this trilogy and more specifically, ENDS.

[@richardr3511]

I liked Halloween ends but hated the ending and how Michael was treated. As you said we already saw the showdown between Laurie & Michael in H20 and even in H(2018). I know most will disagree, but Michael should have just died in the sewer system in Halloween ends and been alive just in Corey's head, or left ambiguous where he might be alive and killing people. Corey as the brutal killer after snapping was actually fun to watch and he should have killed more and been revealed as the killer at the end. Other than the ending, I liked Ends better then the first 2. And since the original Halloween 3 didn't have Michael, this one didn't need him either. His absence would have been scary enough.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I’ll be honest man, I agree lol. I didn’t need that ending. At all. You have good taste

[@tobytubbs1122]

Nick, I am very neutral on the movie. I was highly disappointed with how little screen time Michael had. He’s been a part of my life since the 80’s! You put things in perspective here and I appreciate that!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I do my best! Unfortunately, some are just too dug in

[@baroncrow5094]

rightfully so

[@TheShape_1031]

Fantastic review. I'm so glad that more people are appreciating Ends. It's a smart movie that has MAJOR balls.

[@Playitstraight44]

I liked a number of the ideas presented in this trilogy. What I didn’t like was the lack of continuity and connective tissue to BELIEVE many of those ideas, because the writer/director already established something to the contrary. This happens ALLOT in this trilogy. Now I’m a person that can sit down and watch just about anything, but you (the director) lose me if you go outside the rules you establish. So here’s where continuity hits some pretty rough waters: TOWN HISTORY: DGG establishes in H18 (and early into Kills) that Michael Myers is more urban legend than town monster. This is underscored when one of Allyson’s friends points out that by “today’s standards” the killings of ’78 are fairly tame. Even after Myer’s escapes, only the deputy that witnessed Myers in ’78 understands the gravity of the situation. This void of clarity is illustrated when the Sheriff laughs at Hawkins after he conveys his concerns. The sheriff says, “What are we supposed to do… Cancel Halloween?” So the director makes a point of establishing this town is not ready for Michael Myers. Only Laurie Strode and Officer Hawkins feel the weight of what is unfolding. And you have establishing shots of that shared knowledge, as they glance at one another at the crime scene in the gas station. But here’s where that narrative makes me want to pull my hair out. In Kills, we see media reports of bodies found in Haddonfield. What’s worse the report references the ’78 killings and then SHOWS a picture of Michael Myers… without referencing his name!!!!!! WTF… And this is right after Tommy Doyle has just stood on stage (in that small bar) and given an exaggerated story of his encounter from that period. Oh and the bartender is laughing at him by telling one of the patrons he does this every year as a tradition called “ Tears in their beers,” while laughing. So by every reasonable measure one can establish, this town is not only unaware of Michael Myers, but its own media outlets can’t even remember his name to notify the public he is lose again. They can only connect the dots of the last time there were murders in that town. So how do you organically arrive at a mob mentality of “evil dies tonight” not long after, when the local media can’t even identify him?!!! Oh Tommy Doyle is telling everyone. So HE should recognize this guy right? I mean Myers was recaptured and prosecuted for those murders in 1978, so his picture would be on TV, correct? When Charles Manson was still alive, was anyone going to not recognize him because he was older if he had escaped? I mean, give me a break!!! So all of these social themes they toss around are interesting, but are executed in such a sloppy and contrived manner, you have to almost be ignoring the story to accept these notions when they throw them in. I could start in on Laurie Strode and Michael Myers regarding those contradictions from film to film, but I’ve already written too much on the town and never even finished there. My point to all this is I can accept any number of ideas in stories, but as a writer and director you do have to stick the landing on making them work and not just ask the audience to accept them without a logical rationale for them to exist, if you’ve already gone a different direction to establish an entirely different logic. So I agree with you that all of these ideas on their face are interesting, but the majority of them are all forced and do not work because the town and its characters were not established that way. This goes for Strode and Myers too and their application in Halloween Ends. which is why I spent my time discussing the set up for this last entry. Nothing about the primary characters fits in Ends because they are total opposites of what has been established. "Four years later" is not remotely believable to do an about face, when the whole damn town was doing that after a few hours in 2018. So the logic they use in one is even contradicted in the next film. Again, these ideas are interesting but extremely forced, because the town and its characters have to be changed to fit the ideas, rather than evolve into them organically.

[@CorneliusCollection]

I rewatched it last night for the first time since the theatrical release and went from not being a fan to really loving it. I think I needed to watch it separated from the trilogy and accept the supernatural stuff to really enjoy it. Kills is still my favorite though.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Dude, I’m really glad to hear that. For real. I remember you were not a fan of it, so it’s really cool to see the softening of an opinion play out like that

[@CorneliusCollection]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn and that blow torch kill, holy shit! I had forgotten all about that. Possibly one of the most brutal kills I’ve seen in the series

[@idiot_city5444]

It works as it's own separate thing. As a closing 3rd chapter? Doesn't work at all haha, this dude really doesn't get it

[@TheShape_1031]

@@idiot_city5444 That is literally your opinion. Not fact.

[@TheRooboy78]

Corey is such a fascinating character to me. I loved how they retained the mystique and feel of a Halloween movie but completely flipped it on it’s head. They successfully told a story in the Halloween universe while also keeping the aspects that I love about this franchise. It’s my fave sequel in the entire series

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Hell yes!!! I’m so happy to hear that!

[@TheRooboy78]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn the Halloween Ends fanbase is real and will grow over time! But we are the OGs haha

[@baroncrow5094]

can't believe i'm saying this but cory & laurie are the only good things abt this movie still can't believe they did michael like that & we all thought resurrection & rob zombie h2 was bad almost like a tv series company taking the series & shitting on it but a movie company did this, sad.

[@idiot_city5444]

Successfully...? Hahaha 😆

[@butterfacemcgillicutty]

I don't get the hate. I loved the whole trilogy (and the original of course - the best of its kind). I rewatched all 3 immediately after I saw them all the first time. I think the whole thing is great, I'd love to know what people want? The music and sound design, the color, lighting are all just so outstanding. The direction, script and acting I have no problem with either - have you seen horror movies before? There is so, so much worse out there.

[@PaTrickRTreat]

Laurie’s prepping and paranoia is the only reason any of them survived the first movie. A bunch of unprepared people got smoked. Why would that person decide to embrace the attitude that failed utterly?

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Every path she took was a failure, because fate never changes. That’s the point!

[@Bobby_Hall]

I like Halloween Ends quite a bit but I have some criticisms about it. First, I think it was a missed opportunity that it’s never mentioned if Laurie believed Hawkins when he told her it was never about her. She didn’t react or respond when he told her that in Kills and it isn’t mentioned at all in Ends. I thought that would’ve been a huge blow to her. Maybe she dealt with it in therapy but to not address it in Ends seems strange to me. That false belief is part of the reason why she was so paranoid for decades and why her relationship with her family was ruined, so I would’ve liked some dialogue or narration about that. It would’ve added some nice character development to see that process of her accepting that she was just a random victim and nothing special to Michael. I also find it very odd that Laurie doesn’t seem surprised that Corey was wearing Michael’s mask. I would think she’d be shocked and want to know where he got it since that probably means he knew where Michael was hiding. He doesn’t have to explain anything but I think Laurie should’ve at least enquired about it. I like the movie but I think the execution is a bit sloppy in a few places. I agree it would’ve been nice to see Michael do some more killing. Him teaming up with Corey was an interesting idea but it was dropped too early in my opinion.

[@awsom50]

Glad you love it so much Nick... But alas, I still hate it

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Alas, I am still sad to hear that

[@robertg3205]

I am perplexed that Halloween Ends has caused such a divide and I am baffled when people say this movie is bad. It doesn’t have to anyone’s favorite but the things people say about this movie when it’s not even the worst movie in the franchise. Not sure what people were expecting but I’m glad we got what we got. It was a breath of fresh air in the franchise.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

So am I. Some people act like the movie ran over their dog lol

[@jimjo8541]

You are “baffled” when people say it’s bad? Why? They can give specific reasons as to why it doesn’t work for them. The movie is all over the place. There is a good Halloween movie in there, but there’s also a bad Halloween movie in there. I think those of you that like it focus on that good movie. Those of us, like myself, that don’t- we can’t get past the bad movie. There’s awful character motivation, unnecessary subplot, and unintentional humor that crushes some otherwise cool sequences. This movie feels like they came up with those sequences then tried to construct a story around them. It’s frustrating because this could have been arguably the best Halloween since the original. We didn’t need Corey “killing” the kid. The bullying would have been enough. We didn’t need Michael Myers. Corey should have found him in the sewer, got his evil, then, later someone finds Micheal in the sewers but he’s been dead the whole time and Corey was just imagining all those interactions. That would have made it so much better. That ah ha moment when Michael has been DEAD AS A DOORNAIL the whole movie but his EVIL permeated so much that it helped to corrupt Corey. Plus, it would have made more sense that Michael, since he’s supposed to be HUMAN, died after all the incredible damage he took in Halloween Kills. The end of the movie would more or less play out the same. Laurie can still take down Corey, although I’d have her granddaughter there to see Corey’s true form. I’d also keep the bit where they throw Myers into the scrap metal shredder. Have Laurie toss the mask in there after Michael goes through, unmasked. So, there’s no reason to be baffled. The reasons to not find it to be a good movie are numerous. And it’s all subjective. There are people out there that like Halloween 6. Honestly, I find it to be better than Halloween Ends. At least 6 is whacky, and has those killer 90s electric guitar riffs when Paul Rudd is beating Michael with a pipe.

[@galesbangs]

This is my favorite one out of the newest trilogy and I don't care what anyone says!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Never care! Wear that proudly!

[@StepUpMedia039]

I definitely liked it. I rank it higher than H20 and Resurrection for sure.

[@paulbakewell7878]

Appreciate your balanced way of explaining why you enjoyed it, but understanding the issues others may have. In my opinion, the main focus of Corey would have worked better as the middle movie with full-blown Michael in the finale. Ends is definitely a movie I'm conflicted about but I think I'll enjoy it more retrospectively as time passes.

[@JamieRushing27]

You rock dude. Found your randomly. Subscribed! Love when creators are scared of loud internet trolls.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Thank you for subbing! I am absolutely not afraid of the trolls. I embrace them!

[@vanderhoff66fu]

Halloween kills is the best

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Kills rules too

[@BluRayAddict1]

Great video Nick. I like Halloween Ends as a standalone film but I hate it as the conclusion to the trilogy. I liked the stuff with Corey and Allison and Michael didn't even really need to be in this film. This should have been the 4th film after the trilogy ended and they could have called it Haddonfield The Corey Cunningham Story.

[@millyoneyedeaz1350]

Halloween Ends is in no way, shape or form a standalone film, that's the most absurd thing being parroted over the last year. Michael absolutely needed to be in this film, yall are delusional smh

[@MadBloodMatt]

Great video man. Even though I disagree with some of your thoughts on ends, you articulate your thoughts well and I can totally understand why you enjoy the movie. Hell, I REALLY enjoy some aspects of it as well. Damn as I’m writing this I’m kinda wishing they just would’ve went full anthology with Corey and left Michael out completely. Well instead of making Michael look like a pansy.😂

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Right?!?? We didn’t need Michael at the end in my opinion

[@baroncrow5094]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn you're a weird cat.

[@jmoney4708]

Lol I needed a good laugh

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

And I got a view, so thank you! Very intelligent argument you’ve made. I’ll stew on that

[@jumbome7420]

I loved all three but that’s just me. I’m just glad to have Michael back in any way

[@bigascollectibles7777]

Love Halloween Ends!!!

[@linnpennell6102]

I stand by that movie 100%

[@attila7092]

This is my take on the trilogy: H2018 - A decent beginning. Nothing stupid or over the top happened. I was happy with it. HKills - A few ridiculous scenes but overall was an entertaining movie. I enjoyed it HEnds - Not a bad movie, but a bad Halloween movie. It didn't give me what I expect in that type of film

[@Josiah729]

Yesss!!!! Nick!!! Glad someone agrees with me I LOVEEEE THIS MOVIEEEE 😭 also I love Rohan Campbell 🎃

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I will love this movie as long as there’s life in me ❤️

[@Josiah729]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn same here!!

[@ateam404]

Corey was 25 when he tussled with Michael. 21 when he threw a tantrum and yeeted the little boy over the balcony. Same dude that crushed a glass bottle with his bare hand. Corey plays weak

[@OhItsRoodie]

🎃

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

🎃💀🔪

[@FilmBloggerSam]

Great video Nick! Ive come around to Ends. Having level headed discussions with people definitely helps to sort through your own feelings and thoughts on it. There are elements of the film that dont work for me, but in an odd way, i find it more interesting to watch than a tried and tested generic formula. Not a complete success, but i love it regardless. Cheers

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Sam, you have great taste, you always have. So glad to hear that

[@unclebobconner1417]

One year later it still sucks lol 😂

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

One year later, it fucks

[@dommoore6180]

I don't get people who go out of their way to bash movies they don't like. Or who have dramatic reactions to disliking a movie. I don't like Halloween Ends but I don't like Kills or 2018 either. Saying that, I don't dislike Ends or 2018 (I kind of do dislike Kills though). It's not the Halloween I kind of want I guess but loads of people love this trilogy and hey fair play. Just wish this fanbase acting like their specific opinions on what the series is all about are 100% objectively correct and any movie that deters whatsoever is terrible. The series has developed a fractured fanbase and that's it's own damn fault. Multiple timelines don't help but DGG and co. coming out and saying "we're the first legit sequel to the original and we know what the rest of the movies and their teams got wrong" was just toxic (and kind of unprofessional). H20 did the same thing. They were just asking for fans (and new fans) to be divided and argue back and forth creating this superiority thing about the movies. (I also think Jamie Lee Curtis acting like it's all about her and DGG saying Laurie was the "centrepiece of the franchise" - since when? - was a huge mistake that just further suggests the non-Laurie entries are somehow lesser and is pretty dishonest when you look at the series pre-H20 when Laurie was just the first final girl in a line and Loomis was in the role they've pretty much wrote Laurie into today as if she was always there). That's pretty shitty and I don't think the fans should be adding to that situation. I'm not into the DGG trilogy's style, it's writing, it's tone. I don't really like all that. But I'm glad other people do. The only thing I can absolutely say I properly dislike out and out is the politics these 3 movies created and flat out encouraged at times. They didn't need to do all that. On the bright side all 3 DGG novelisations are great and that trilogy I can really get behind, even if 2018 doesn't really flow into the Kills/Ends novels and even if I wish the movies were more like those books. (also since when was Michael "just a man", the original movie goes out of it's way to say he's somehow supernatural and can't die, I know Carpenter is all "oh he's almost supernatural" as if that makes sense but he and Hill have both pretty much said yeah he's supernatural and the movie's themes and writing massively point towards that, it's the opposite of "true to the original" to make him "just a man", just saying. They've always been pretty upfront that Michael is essentially possessed by some evil force, that's in the novel, it's heavily suggested in the movie, I know it's technically ambiguous but it's not like it's totally ambiguous)

[@sezerac910]

I think the central theme of this trilogy is how trauma affects people. A theory people have about Michael's motive is being traumatized by seeing his sister having sex. H18 is about how Laurie's trauma affected her and her family. HK is about the trauma the town suffered. And HE is about how we let the trauma affect us. Allison tries to move on, and Corey tries to as well, but he just can't. He takes the trauma and lashes out at others. Perpetuating the cycle of trauma and violence.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

100%. Say what you will about this trilogy, but DGG nailed his theme of trauma

[@ChrisMeadows1992]

This is coming from someone who doesn't even particularly enjoy the Halloween films, including '18. Halloween Ends was one of my favorite films of 2022. It was incredibly well-directed and shot, the score was sublime and I was absolutely engrossed in Corey Cunningham's journey. Not to mention the unbelievably great opening. I found the movie to balance the mean-spirited slasher thrills with the emotionally intelligent character beats surprisingly well. It's my favorite in the franchise by a wide margin.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

HELL. YES. I absolutely love to hear that

[@kidderbraun2543]

I love Ends (and actually all the Blumhouse films)! It's my #3 or 4 rank in the series. That's why I find the *meet Corey earlier* critique to ring so true. It was such an interesting pivot, you can imagine the coherent trilogy where they introduced him in 2018 and everything builds in a consistent direction, finally paying off in the last film. What we got instead was three standalones that lack a thread tying them all together.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

#TeamCorey!

[@baroncrow5094]

cory, laurie & the soundtrack are the only good things abt this movie

[@carloRX78K2]

I wish the SW fandom matures as well, horror fans sometimes are more fun to talk to and share on opinions on horror films, so yeah the fandom can only be destroyed..... By themselves.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I love The Last Jedi lol

[@carloRX78K2]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn and i adore that movie too despite its issues, its not a deal breaker and not am offensive film....... Unlike the fandom pressumed it to be, also whenever i say that "i love the last jedi" the fandom will stary destroying me saying im an idiotic cinema goer...... WTF ryt? 😂😅

[@acimagination7982]

let me put it this way. I watched halloween ends on peacock and liked it. I find it watchable. like other people wish I saw other things but also liked certain things. when it got released on dvd I didnt mind purchasing it. haddonfield has issues. its cursed or something and it shows that. different versions of the boogieman gets created because of the holiday and how people are treated. plus I loved the ending. they kept to that theme. its simple. thats how it was in the first one.

[@jonathandavis7359]

I have softened my opinion about Ends. It's a good movie when viewed by itself. It doesn't cap off the trilogy in a good way for me. I didn't like being mislead about what Ends. Fans picked up on that radio tower in Kills and they responded with "Oh there's a reason for tge radio tower", then there was no reason. Why does Michael stare out the window = never explained. Corey should have been introduced in 2018 and my opinion might be a little different on Ends. You nailed it when you mentioned all three movies feel disconjointed. Kills doesn't feel like the same night even if it is. My brother loves Ends though and that's saying alot.

[@millyoneyedeaz1350]

Ends can't be viewed by itself, it's totally dependent on the previous 3 films

[@unclebobconner1417]

Kills was the best out there 3 movies in my opinion

[@damenicionscott]

Awesome 👏 video man perfectly well done 👍

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

You know when it comes to Ends, I can talk for days haha

[@GoulGames]

i agree!!

[@gbarreto_]

I love every Halloween film, Good and bad. 2018 was the best, though.

[@itzfrights]

Ends is my favorite of the Blumhouse trilogy and I really like the change in direction and would've liked it to go even farther. Seeing the idea of The Shape or evil moving to someone else was really interesting. I also like the hints of supernatural evil in Ends that controls Corey. It's not revealed explicitly which makes it more scary in my opinion

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Couldn’t agree more. I’m glad you like it!

[@mc_howell]

I like it more every time I watch it. I don’t think it’s anything drastically different. Only gripe is using one of Michael’s kills as the knife to wall for like the third time. I do like that they used the copy-cat angle they were gonna do for H20. I also like Friday part 5’s Roy Burns, but Corey Cunningham did it better.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Corey absolutely did it better, because we actually had a character to get to know

[@StepUpMedia039]

I actually enjoy this film for doing something different. Kills is still my favorite of the 3, and all 3 were kind of disappointing, but all 3 definitely have some awesome moments too.

[@SteveMerlo]

I have no problem with the kind of direction they made with this movie. My 1 big issue though just kills it for me though. It was simply not scary in the slightest. I didn’t find any of this new trilogy to be scary mind you but this was probably the least scary of the 3. It’s not due to lack of kills. The original had very few kills in it too but what the original built amazing suspense with its lighting, camera movement and sound design/score. These movies don’t even come close to the suspense and overall creepy atmosphere that the original has. I’m not saying that they need to be at that level but these movies feel like they didn’t even try. Halloween Ends was the worst of them though at least for me

[@KingRichard1013]

To be honest in the David Gordon Green trilogy I thought kills was the best in the entire trilogy. Halloween ends I liked it but the one thing that I really did not like about it is yes Corey manhandling Michael Myers. I personally thought that was bullshit like it doesn’t make sense for a 21-year-old punk kid manhandling someone like Michael Myers who is supposed to be this unstoppable force of nature I don’t know that seems really rubbed me the wrong way and it just seemed a little disrespectful to the character of Michael Myers. Because I’m just sitting there scratching my head going what the fuck like there’s no way in hell that Michael Myers would ever allow this kid to do this he’s supposed to be stronger than him. I mean I get that he’s an old man but that’s no excuse because if Michael in his old age could do all the shit that he did in 2018 and kills then he should not allow a 21 year old kid to manhandle him like that.

[@catherinechandler195]

Personally, when this movie first came out I hated it. I couldn’t understand why introduce this new character and element into the Halloween mythology so late in the game. But as I’ve seen it more and more, I’ve grown to hate it less. While it is not what I expected the ending of this trilogy to be at first it’s one that looking back works. It gives Laurie her closure, and at the end of it all Laurie is who we were saying good bye too not Micheal

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I respect that, and I’m happy to hear you’ve softened on it a bit. The initial shock was definitely a lot, I get it. It was for me too. But, damn. It just gets its hooks in you

[@catherinechandler195]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn it really did. It got its hooks into me over time, and I am happy that it ended up growing on me. I want to love all iterations of Halloween and safe to say I do. This movie easily cracks my top five in my ranking of the series.

[@superpug666]

Already a year? Damn

[@Crocodile12569]

I’ll admit that these movies were alright, but I’m more partial to the thorn trilogy. I’ll take these new ones over resurrection and the Rob zombie ones

[@Texxifier]

This movie made me miss Halloween Resurrection and i wouldnt wish that film upon my worst enemy..... Ends is the worst of the franchise.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Hard disagree. Resurrection isn’t even a competently made movie! Lol. But, I get it

[@baroncrow5094]

you gotta be mentally disabled@@TheLostRiverDriveIn

[@nathanielpellikkaerlandsso9525]

Halloween Ends is fantastic!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

YES IT IS

[@thugxlove88]

Honestly H20 was dope as hell. Only thing i didnt like about it was the mask. Made Michael look goofy

[@sonofyah_chosen1950]

Still love this movie

[@thehomelander28]

Idk if u did it before but i would love a halloween franchise ranking from u ^^ Also did u read the novel for ends? Its fantastic

[@TheHORRORman]

I love this movie and I get so much grief on my videos for saying so. Too bad. This is an underrated masterpiece in my opinion. Great video.

[@timpo717]

Loved the movie a year ago, rewatched it tonight and loved it even more.

[@cookiewoman8959]

Got goosebumps so many times seeing this film in the theater. Definitely has it's problems but I agree it's the best of the trilogy.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I think it is easily, too.

[@baroncrow5094]

you guys are clearly short-bus ain't no way

[@Sinn0100]

We're going to have to agree to disagree here. What was done to Michael Meyers was unacceptably bad. The entire pass the torch to another premise was both jarring and insane. There was no build-up, no story arc to follow...just one big "we don't know what to do so let's do that!" moment in the film. Of course this was done for a reason... Don't get me started on the absolute rip-off, bait and switch tactics that built this up to be the defining end to the Michael Meyers vs. Lori Strode story arch. No, instead we got to watch a piece of American culture get ripped to shreds so the director can say he "subverted expectations." I just hope the box office crash he experienced because of this nonsense taught him to respect the source material of the films he creates. Although I'm not holding my breath... Addendum- Green did not in fact learn from his mistakes with Halloween Ends. No, he decided more expectations needed to be subverted and his current film is an abject failure. Worst drop off in history...

[@Dreamcultrocks]

Hated it. But screw it! Halloween 4 had a few scripts and 1 of them was gonna have a long scene at The Lost City Drive in. Lindsey and Tommy were there and there parents forbid them to talk about the boogeyman a ND stuff.Myers had knives come out of his eyes and grew into a giant, FOR REAL! But Bitterman wrote a H4 Draft that was gonna have Laurie in Chicago, it's awesome. He or Etchinson also wrote a great part 5 draft . Carry on.

[@dazbry7612]

I liked this troligy, but its no way near a masterpeice, kills being bat shit off the hook, my fav of the trilogy, im glad people like ends or 2018.

[@CryingXCX]

Nick, you rule after 14 years on KZbin, so will this movie! 😏

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Now you’re making me feel old! Lol. Thank you so much for saying that, sincerely. I’ve been honored to have your support this entire time

[@CryingXCX]

“Of course you don’t look a day over twelve, except in that upper torso area… does the force require you to work out?” 😂 Keep it up brother, we appreciate you.

[@chennao]

Halloween Ends explanation is why the movie sucks. Why do we need these deep thought out conversations when we just wanted Michael vs Laurie minus the love story.

[@deathmetalelitist666]

I still dislike this movie,i can say it does something new but didn't work for me. I think it would have worked better as a two part film with part one being more about cory and part 2 being the micheal vs luarie story.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

They really should’ve introduced some of these things earlier. I can not argue with that

[@Gorgutsforcongress]

Hey, some people prefer Nickelback to Metallica too. People gonna people I guess.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I mean, different strokes I guess?

[@idiot_city5444]

​@@TheLostRiverDriveInsome people just love garbage

[@NorthernHandle]

I really really like Ends, even on first watch! Halloween 1978 - The Boogeyman Halloween ‘18 - Trauma and survival. Halloween Kills - Evil slaughtering those who don’t understand what Evil is. Halloween Ends - The Epilogue of the timeline. I see it as: an epilogue of the Franchise from 1978 to 2022. It’s not Michael that’s dangerous once he’s gone, it’s other people. You literally get Laurie and Michael for the 2nd time in this franchise, did we really want another one? I wouldn’t have wanted another. I really love her portrayal in Ends too. That music too omg atmosphere!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I personally didn’t want another paranoid Laurie preparing for Michael movie. I’ve seen it done to death. I’m so glad they switched it up!

[@NorthernHandle]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn yeah right! We’ve gotten that in 2 movies already and then with the remake and its sequel we got it. Ends was a movie that fans will come around to eventually.

[@baroncrow5094]

i see what they were trying to do but they fucked that up by adding cory into the mix which rushed things that fucked everything up that's why ends is the worst movie in the series

[@NorthernHandle]

@@baroncrow5094 it’s really not but go off.

[@supertenor2767]

I'm with you, as I've said before. I LOVE Halloween Ends... But, I do understand the other side... as I was there with The Last Jedi, which I hate and despise. Lolll

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Yes! You get it! I tried to make the argument for those who don’t like it, because their points are valid

[@davidacer4291]

You like what you like.

[@legendarypsychomike4309]

Halloween ends i like it why my hated it. I will rewatch the last week of October. Which will be the horror movies i watch that week.

[@NorthernHandle]

Laurie literally spelled out what Ends is about in almost all her monologues. The scene with Corey and Laurie in the abandoned house is brilliant, is Laurie really there? Or not?

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I still don’t know the answer to that question lol

[@millyoneyedeaz1350]

She's there. She has Jeremy's paper plane when Corey wakes up to find her in the chair (1) Then she throws it into the other room while talking (2) While Corey is lost in his thoughts and rambling, she gets up and leaves, grabbing the paper plane on her way out (3) Which she has in her hand when she's talking to Allyson, who is confronting her about her conversation earlier with Corey (4). Corey threatened to kill Laurie if she didn't commit suicide first (5) then flips the script and tells Allyson she wants to kill him which leads to her faking him out with the suicide "did you really think id kill myself?" (6) None of that happens, if Laurie wasn't really there. Soon as Allyson brings it up, she would have just said "I haven't been to see him, he's lying" but instead she tries to justify why she went to see him.

[@BronzFor]

Halloween Ends is the worst movie, even worse than Resurrection and Rob Zombie's Halloween 2

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Damn that’s crazy because RZH2 is a masterpiece

[@BronzFor]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn yeah it was when it was released under its original title: Friday the 13th part 2

[@blade5883]

Ends is 100% better than those awful Halloween movies lmao

[@mogens3556]

RZH2 is my favourite out of all of the halloween films so i would agree ends and resurrection are worse

[@BronzFor]

@@mogens3556 rzh2 was a complete bastardized version of Halloween. Michael is turned into Jason taking orders from his dead mom to kill. Dr loomis is turned into a complete ass hat. And to top it off Michael screams Die at the top of his lungs.

[@jasoneubank514]

I still love Halloween Ends and it's still a awesome movie one year later and will you be doing a review on the Halloween Trilogy box set.from 2023.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I will!

[@jasoneubank514]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn I will be looking forward to watching it.

[@DeadGruesome]

I haven’t rewatched it since I saw it in the cinema but my issue with it isn’t what everyone else’s issues are, I was so invested in Corey that I wanted him to kill everyone by the end. The idea of the evil transferring to him was awesome and I just wanted to see him shine but instead they killed him and threw a 5 minute Laurie vs Myers fight at us last second… So I am pretty middle of the road with it lol.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

They wrote themselves into a corner saying this was “the end”. It shouldn’t have been that way. There was potential with Corey

[@paulsmith8510]

People take it too personally. However... Blumhouse really set themselves up for failure. 2018 had really strong production, so does Ends. The writing is the failure. Audiences feel insulted. Its a business at the end of the day. It felt like "We made millions on 2018, lets slap Kills together, and Ends everyone can go F themselves." The concept of Ends is fine, the writing is pure garbage, but as the finale it fails. Its funny how insulted people got because we literally have Halloween 6, Resurrection, Zombies #2. There are plenty of wonky Halloween movies.

[@papmasterOST]

Nick they bent Michael Myers over a table..Pulp Fiction style...🤦

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Yeah, that old man had it coming lol

[@emilbjorklund9253]

For me Halloween ends just keeps getting better with every rewatch, i’ve watched the movie 3 times and i absolutely love it now! I rank it like my fourth in the franchise at the moment! I was so disappointed how they handled Michael and how the story progressed from Halloween kills when i fist saw it in theaters! But i’ll be dammed, just a couple of days after i’ve seen it, it started to grow on me! I rewatched it for the second time when i got my steelbook, i had a much better experience the second time when i was knowing what to expect! Still had some scenes that bothered me but it was OK! As i was commenting the other day the last time i watched it i loved it! I still think its a little bit rushed in the finale! And i think Hawkins and Lindsey was under used in the movie. I hated when Corey wrestled Michael when i first saw it but now i kinda wished Corey had killed Michael in the cave and really becoming the new shape! I really love Coreys character! I also think the writing in this movie is by far the best in this trilogy!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I’m the same way. I love it more with each watch! And it’s absolutely the strongest story/dialogue of this trilogy, hands down

[@TJ-zq7rb]

Hate it a year ago, hate still today. Final chapter is based on Corey. I didn't connect with Corey character. Corey's bullies are in the band!? Since when are bullies are in a band picking on other kids!? That was ridiculous lol. Hate that they have Myers collaborate and kill with corey. He's a killer, he teams up with somebody for a kill or 2? Come on. The only thing I like is Myers is finally killed, and the town Witnesses it to be at peace. Loved 2018, Kills was just ok for me. Ends was absolute mess. Yes Ends is different from the other 2, but not in a good way for me. love your videos man, but I disagree here lol. I still go back and look at your Jeepers Creepers 3 movie review. That's how I found your channel.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Bro that review blew up and I have no idea why lol. But I’m happy to know you’ve been along for the ride for all these years. I hated that movie 😂

[@ryanmurphy89]

This was my favorite of the trilogy precisely because it was a total departure of the first 2 films. I remember leaving the theater after seeing 2018 and being really unhappy with that movie and it was even worse leaving after kills. I'm less harsh on this trilogy now but I really enjoyed ends and was pleasantly surprised with it. Watching it a year later and it's still captivating to me. Opening scene is fantastic. Love the look of Haddonfield. Feels like Laurie is the most authentic version of herself in the entire trilogy. Loved Hawkins' arc. Overall vibe of the movie just feels more authentic than any other of the DGG films.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

It really does. I think this movie is his most grounded, while also being his biggest swing

[@ezelldaniels6064]

Broooo I am glad I am not the only one who really enjoyed this movie a lot. I did have a few mixed feelings but overall I loved it and the risk it took brother. ❤

[@troygrubb1351]

I enjoy Halloween 🎃 Ends it did something different it was very well acted had good kills reminds me a bit of another John Carpenter movie 🍿 definitely felt the Christine vibes Corey personality changes after being possessed by Michael Myers like Arnie Cunningham did by Christine the car in junkyard scene loved scored gave me vibes of that movie 🍿 I liked it wasn’t H20 again or Halloween 🎃 2018 again they did something different were trailers misleading absolutely they were I understand people being upset about that we all have different tastes in movies 🍿 that’s cool and good it would be boring if we all like the same stuff.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

For sure man! I’m glad you like it!

[@HTHAMMACK1]

This biggest problem I had with it is Laurie ends Halloween Kills with a "I'm coming for you Michael" for killing her daughter, then Ends starts off completely ignoring that and having Laurie living a normal life. It just completely threw out the ending of Kills as if it didn't happen. Also, too little Michael for a Halloween finale. I also don't like how they had a teenager make Michael his bitch. Outside of that, I thought it was okay. I don't begrudge you loving it. I loved Halloween 2018 and liked Kills a lot, despite too many characters being dumb and the town going after Myers plot line.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Well the reshot ending of Kills really helped honestly. Removing the “I’m coming for you” scene. But I totally get what you mean

[@wickdaline8668]

Ends isn't so bad. I admit it, in all honesty.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

You are seeing the light

[@robertchambers6344]

They marketed the film incorrectly. Thats the MAIN ISSUE. It was a crappy bait and switch. I just rewatched the film believe it or not just a few hours ago. And my opinion is still the same. It has an interesting idea, a plausible one too. But it does not work. The script is just not that clever. Is it as bad as part 5? As bad as Resurrection? No. But it is a black mark on the new trilogy. Yes. And i will again point out the bait and switch of the marketing. That was crappy.

[@ejgonzalez2313]

Halloween Kills and Ends SUCKED !!! 2018 Was great, Hollywood took risks and FAILED miserably. I can understand going a different route, but you don't have to go far and look at the older films. They tried a similar strategy and wasn't successful as they thought it would. If it isn't broken don't fix it.

[@Carmelmen1]

I love Ends! Happy Halloween, 1 year later. Hope people aren't still salty.

[@PaTrickRTreat]

I didn’t care for it. The Halloween trilogy reminds me of the newest Star Wars trilogy. The trilogy didn’t feel coherent to me. It was like the writers wanted to do very different things but it was crammed into a trilogy.

[@Josehorror86]

I have always loved this film.. so different and i liked it.. the emo love story… loved what they did with Corey and i ran with it… Michael is still around lol.. good video man🎃🎃🎃🤟🏻gonna rewatch it

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

Hell yeah man! Emo love story haha

[@Josehorror86]

@@TheLostRiverDriveIn like that eh? Lol

[@XtremeEffect]

You share my exact opinions Nick 🧡🖤🎃

[@TonyB2279]

You're a brave man.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I’ve been hardened by this community lol

[@HumanXtinction]

When I first watched Ends i thought it sucked hard,but I just watched it again and I think it's pretty good 😅

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

It is! See! Many people have had this change of heart

[@phantasm8180]

Halloween Ends, well, I hate this film more than others. For me, there's only one good film: John Carpenter is right; after the '78 film, it's over, and it's the perfect ending. Michael Myers is just a man, a very sick one, but just a man. That is scary. It's not a virus, it's not a monster; it's something that really could happen. But then they decided to make Michael Myers an unstoppable killing machine. Well, again, this movie contradicts that idea. The worst part is that the movie is boring for many reasons-the backstories, the romance. If you like it because it's different, well, yes, it's really different, but it happens too little in the movie. And then, ,' it's the same ending, Michael Myers dies-the same ending since 1981. What is really not precisely innovative is not new or original.

[@thehorrorfanatic8164]

The hate for this movie is ridiculous and more just a trend then actually having an opinion about the movie. It’s an amazing film and it’s definitely not the worst in the franchise

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@DS-616 Dawg. We’ve talked about this. Share your opinion, that’s more than welcome here. But keep it respectful please

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

@@DS-616 I have always respected your opinions, and you mine. I guess I’m just getting at, just ignore it. Lord knows I try my best sometimes, but I’m not always successful in it lol. I’ve got love for you, don’t ever think otherwise

[@whip_smart]

I like it a lot because I really like the character Corey and I really like Jamie lee Curtis performance in the movie

[@ByronWeaver33]

Although I gave the film a 6.5 out of 10 the novel on the other hand gets a 9 out of 10. The novel for Halloween: Kills has the better ending for me giving the Kills novel a 9.5 out of 10. The Halloween (1978) novel gets a 10 out of 10. Halloween (2018) novel gets a 8.5 out of 10. You have done such a good job on covering these novels. You should check out the Halloween (1978) novel it’s definitely a fun read. This may sound crazy but Allyson possibly becoming the next Michael Myers? SIGN ME UP! After all of the stuff that she’s been through logically I could see it happening. You could do another movie with Allyson that leads into a ten episode long limited series.

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I need to get that novel for sure

[@BlackRobin71]

I can't tell you how happy I am that this movie was made. It is easily the most engaging sequel in the franchise for me. I bought into 100% and loved every minute!

[@TheLostRiverDriveIn]

I love to hear that! I adore it too