"Halo was only REALLY POPULAR Because it had No Competition" is a BS Argument

[@Error5577]

Halo 3's launch was so impactful that it actually made a noticeable dent in movie theatre ticket sales when it came out.

[@darkrain491]

Error5577 heeeeeeeey

[@Error5577]

Gayyyyyyy

[@PartyUpLive]

I remember the week it came out. Friends at work that didn't even play FPS bought Halo 3 and we would all hurry home, throw on our mics, and play multiplayer, specifically BTB for hours. Good times.

[@Randompancakes12345]

The nostalgia right here man

[@TheActMan]

This is a DAMN good video, and thanks for making it, dude. One thing though, the Xbox One had TERRIBLE press before it's release, and while Halo is meant to be a system seller, Halo and 343i really couldn't control or change any of the bad press surrounding the console itself. That was Microsoft's fault (specifically Don Mattrick) and I don't think any series of games, no matter how good they are, would be appealing to anyone if the console it's played on looks like absolute dog shit. If most of my friends hadn't seen all the stupid shit about borrowing & renting games, always online, etc, they wouldn't have gone to PS4 and chances are we'd be playing Halo on the Xbox One together. Microsoft certainly has some blame on themselves for not marketing the console better on which Halo thrives, so it's not just the games themselves, but also their accessibility. Anyways, DAMN good video, keep it up!

[@ivogerginov5974]

I agree, but there is also a problem on 343's side, which in my opinion, runs deeper than what many consider incompetence, inability or corporate directives. It's their mindset towards developing Halo. With all said and done, 343's production history on Halo is barely any different from Bungies, excluding The Game That Shall not be Named. Halo 4's production was obviously focused primarily on single-player. So was Halo CE's as we found out in your interview with Hardy Lebel. That led to the game's player-base plummeting within months. This obviously led them to focus production on multiplayer in Halo 5, which lead to problems with campaign, cut story being one of them as evidenced by the campaign. Halo 2 was in similar shape - they made one hell of a multiplayer, but the campaign was cut short and the story was considered inferior at the time (not that H5's story has the chance of getting praise in the years to come, that won't happen and that's not the point). Solely production wise up to their 2nd main Halo game, the development process seems to be the same. So what's different? First of all, at the time of making CE Bungie was a more experienced unit than 343 was during Halo 4's development,since Bungie had worked on other games in the past. Before Halo 4, 343 was only working on animated productions and novels. Halo 4 was the first game this studio made as a unit. Sure the people in it individually are tallented and experienced developers, but this is the first game they had made as an established dev team. Keep in mind, the remaster of Halo CE had no coding involved, they used the old code entirely, so it was far from a full fledged game project. Second of all and most importantly - their mindet towards developing Halo. When Bungie were working on Halo CE, they were, for the most part, working under the same conditions as 343 were on H4. But Halo was not an established franchise back then, so they worked with the mindset of just making a fun game and hoping it works out. Since it did work out, they retained that mindset on account of that being the reason for CE's success. This is evident in all Bungie Halo games. Now comes 343, who are handed one of, if not the most popular and influential game franchises of all time and are told to continue it and make it better. This put's them in the mindset of holding a Faberege egg in their hands and regrettably that's a mindset Microsoft shares with them (not that they don't have cause to). They want to do the franchise justice, so they do a shit tone of ambitious stuff, and end up braking a leg while running every time. In H4 it was the multiplayer, in H5 it was the single player. And you can only run so far with 2 broken legs and severe dehidration until you tumble down and die. 343 is more than capable of making a fun long lasting feature filled consistent FPS game with an awesome campaign. The only problem is, that game will probably not be Halo. Microsoft needs to find a management team, or if necessary - a new studio entirely, with a more early 2000's Bungie-like mindset. People who just want to make a fun game like classic Halo without being concerned by the pedigree of the franchise they're working on. This is the only way Halo can thrive. No amount of throwing money at the studio(i.e. hiring more people to increase production) can fix the problem of the mindset. People within 343 need to be replaced. And that's not due to incompetence. Just that mindset....

[@austin62halo]

The Act Man I'm not defending don but I believe he had a hold my beer moment and forgot who the gamers were

[@deriznohappehquite]

Even then, Halo 5 isn't competing with PS4 copies of games to be the number 1 game on Xbox Live. It can't even win on its own turf.

[@therockingvolbeat3630]

Ivo Gerginov in halo 4 it was also the single player and in halo 5 it was also the multiplayer and everything else about the games

[@15Foy]

dam the likes is the same number as the number on my gamertag

[@LateNightHalo]

Halo 3 certainly had SOME assistance from the market not being saturated by Battlefield, endless cods, destiny, and so on... The reason Halo 3 did well was because... It was "Halo" and people liked "Halo" People bought Halo for the Halo gameplay that only Halo could give... Now we have Halo 5 which feels like this sad shell... It isnt a proper "Halo" experience so OG halo fans wont play it and it isn't unique enough for generic shooter fans to stick with it (the lack of bug fixes or support doesn't help) I'm willing to wager IF Halo 6 doubled down on the fan service (No sprint, no ADS, old art style, lots of challenges and armor customization options, old Music style etc...) it would outsell Halo 5 and have a healthy population.. Obviously it wont be a record breaker anymore but seeing as "new and improved" halo isn't doing jack shit.. why not at least TRY to see how a classic game would do?

[@Bryanneo1]

They wouldn't want to take that risk, which is a shame because I have no little doubt it would be massively successful (if 343 really try).

[@rafaelv3118]

I think that maybe if 343 does make a classic halo game, these following things might happen: new fans don't buy the game because it's not like halo 5, old fans don't buy it because they're done with halo, and people who do play it won't be able to find matches because almost no one will be playing the game for my previous reasons

[@wadedewell]

LateNightGaming - Halo News & Entertainment 343 will never bring back classic awesome works day one fullnof content halo. 343 hates classic halo and will move forward with their sick microtransaction advanced movement vision for halo

[@Bryanneo1]

That's why it'll need to be advertised to hell, to be like a beacon of hope to all those old fans to come together and show 343i what they are missing. I doubt any "new fans" leaving will make a dent into our full potential as a community.

[@Bryanneo1]

If 343 really want to move forward, they will have to look back.

[@HiddenXperia]

Fan. Fucking. Tastic. The perfect rebuttal to a commonly used argument, and it actually made me think of something very logical that's going on right now. I'm a Psych Major, and there's something we have to learn about called the Fundamental-Attribution Error. Basically, it's a social psychology theory that dictates that, any positive occurrence that happens to ourselves, or something we like, is due to dispositional factors that are inherently tied to us and our ability. Any negative occurrence that happens to ourselves, or something we like, we attribute purely to situational factors that are tied to anything BUT ourselves. In this case, 'ourselves' = Halo, and the negative occurrence = its declining popularity. Right now it's very clearly observable that many people are simply attributing Halo's failure to anything BUT Halo, and to situational variables, like Halo's supposed new wave of competition that it never faced before, or series fatigue, or pollution or whatever (sarcasm, but you get me). Just something interesting to think about. Great video man, as expected :)

[@wadedewell]

HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! classic halo is never coming back. 343 hates classic halo and frank oconnor admitted to hiring people who hate halo to form the core of the studio..... 343 will continue to ignore the true halo fans and cater to the braindead cum guzzling 343 fanboys and the new age asshats compare bungies old halo vid docs vs 343 discussing the series...... bungie back then LOVED HALO AND HAD PASSION TO MAKE THE BEST GAME POSSIBLE.... 343 ONLY CARES ABOUT MILKING THE FRANCHISE TO DEATH 343 will continue down their twisted sick microtransaction advanced movement hellish vision for halo and will keep copying whatever the other fps games are doing......( except going classic) 343 has shown extreme disrespect, hate, apathy, for everything classic halo including its fans! they continue to shit on halos legacy and wont stop until the series dies or they are disbanded. i fucking HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE 343 FOR RUINING HALO modders and fangames ARE OUR ONLY HOPE FOR ANYTHING THAT IS TRULY HALO

[@tbc1880]

nice

[@AxiologyStudios]

Would it be correct to rephrase the Fundamental-Attribute error to the following sentences? 1. If something good* happens to someone or something, they believe it's because of them or their actions. 2. If something bad* happens to someone or something, they believe it's because of an external force. * the term "good" and "bad" depend from person to person, but they're simple words for a clear understanding. Take care! -Dawson

[@HaloGamer401]

HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! Oooo, psych major- good luck with all that debt and being more unemployable after you graduate than when you started. #jussayin

[@HaloGamer401]

HiddenXperia - The home of Halo 5 lore videos! Oooo, psych major- good luck with all that debt and being more unemployable after you graduate than when you started. #jussayin

[@Ferox]

Can't believe people are even making that argument, great video man.

[@Bryanneo1]

People will go to any lengths to put blame on anything but the one thing that's really the issue. Since people do not like to be wrong.

[@xXLegacy]

it's not an argument honestly, i 100% believe it's trolls who should be ignored and not even argued with.

[@ThePotatoPolice]

last time I was this early, Halo 5 had no Game modes

[@Shades2001]

you are always early?

[@torakandwolf6786]

CheekyNandos Ooooooo shiiiiit.

[@ThePotatoPolice]

I've heard no complaints ;)

[@menkster5813]

Or maps... It still doesn't have enough.

[@salsaspartan7]

Halo 5 still doesn't have Social Team Slayer.

[@TheXBRGUY]

Your videos are extremely cathartic. It's crazy how all of the 14 minutes and 10 seconds of this video were important. Every minute described a new point of counter-argument. Just like in most of your videos. Thank you, Favyn. Your content is really well made.

[@torakandwolf6786]

CoD was Halo's closest competitor from 2007-2012. I remember seeing comments on KZbin videos of CoD fanboys taking the piss out of Halo for not being as popular or realistic, and there being big arguments between the two all the time. And CoD as we all know, has always been more popular. Mostly because it is multi platform. So of course it's a bullshit argument.

[@Omega4Productions]

It still makes me giggle when CoD fans, even to this day, try to claim CoD as realistic at all.

[@t-dawg5265]

Battlefield should've been Halo's rival instead of CoD. Then there actually would've been a competition.

[@Helljumper7200]

Wolf Brother I miss those days... when it was Halo vs CoD... and like you said take the piss out of each other. now it's different because 343 wants to copy CoDs formula. it's so sad..?

[@torakandwolf6786]

You know Titanfall started the 'advanced movement' BS right? Microsoft thought they could capitalise off this and use it for their 'super cool e-sports' crap. And if you've noticed, this trend is already failing. The evidence is in CoD's declining sales, and in this video, Halo 5's place on the Xbox top 100 played games. It's sad really. I just want classic Halo back.

[@flztchyy]

The thing the cod fans should realise is that halo isn't trying to be ultra realistic. Its trying to be a video game.

[@DreableNeebal10]

"The market has changed....." they say when CoD is going back to a gameplay style that was around when Halo was popular.

[@krion4787]

Wait, this argument has been used? Are you kidding me? As far as I'm concerned, Halo was successful because it utilized an intelligent, timeless game-design respecting an Orthogonal balance system, with a ton of potential game-play enabled by its 'simple' design that also enabled a lot of player and community customization and input, and a story that was inspired by the game-play and not ripped from 'extended universe' fluff. In other words, Halo was good because it was designed to be its own thing, and that thing became a standard for good game design, and through every addition and expansion upon that original game, Bungie maintained the 'flavor' of Halo, whereas 343 has not. Excellent content and arguments as usual, Favyn!

[@Omega4Productions]

I wouldn't call it an "argument", as that gives it credibility it doesn't deserve. It's more akin to a "grasping at straws attempt at creating a credible defense of an indefensible product".

[@hououinkyoma1662]

tell me, I am curious, do you even know what the word orthogonal means?

[@VideoGamer110]

#FirstToWatchTheVideoTHENcomment My favorite thing about Favyn's arguments is that not only does he state his initial argument but he also takes every counterpoint someone might have then explains why they're wrong right in the video itself. I was gonna make the point that the games Halo 3 competed with weren't nearly as big and that's why it isn't really considered competition, but you already proved me wrong in the video. Now I'm glad I watched the video before I commented,which is something that these people need to learn. This isn't the first time you changed my opinion on Halo either. Keep up the great content.

[@VideoGamer110]

Wade Dewell​ k

[@jaylenwingfield1666]

Nick OneTen seriously bruh the game isn't that bad it's actually quite revolutionary

[@atlien1988]

Naga Sou you're wrong about Destiny and GTA 5. Destiny had its issues, but it was still a very popular game as it was constantly being streamed and featured on shows like IGN. GTA was in the top 5 when Halo released and it is still one of the 5 most played games on both consoles today with GTA online.

[@versatilelord8893]

Wade Dewell what the fuck

[@BasedMexx]

It's funny because your arguments are simply common sense. They're logical, and straight to the point

[@helljumper6098]

Yet people still defend 343.

[@brickgamer2269]

Hell Jumper Because this really isn't about 343, it's more about Halo 5 to be specific.

[@343Films]

Brick Gamer And who made Halo 5? You realize that Halo 4, 5, and 6 are only a thing become of 343, right?

[@brickgamer2269]

343Films I'm fully aware of that. However the video is more specifically on how Halo 5 is performing, and how the "Halo 3 had no competition" argument is BS. It's not really about 343.

[@jaylenwingfield1666]

Brick Gamer bruh

[@kevythekevlar]

Halo 5 really is just such a pathetic joke of a Halo game. I hated it immediately at launch, I almost can't believe it's taken people this long to come around to that conclusion too

[@SubnormalEntertainment]

>Halo had no competition >COD 4 was released the same year as H3 Argument debunked right there lmao.

[@jackmcmorrow9397]

to be fair, cod was the game that dethroned halo. Prior to cod4, halo was pretty unmatched as king of the console shooters.

[@sadowphoenix01]

I'd say halo dethroned itself

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

@@jackmcmorrow9397 Er...WHAT!?

[@WpnsGrade]

Loved this video. Glad you debunked this ignorant claim.

[@helljumper6098]

Hey Weapons Grade!

[@versatilelord8893]

Wpns Grade we get it. You hate 343

[@TheChadPad]

No, we love Halo

[@kindledorchid651]

I am the Senate

[@joshualammers3127]

do it

[@sneakysnake2330]

Not Yet unleash anakin, dont let him kill me!

[@Bryanneo1]

Now I wanna see someone paste the 343 logo over the Senator in that scene and play it out.

[@YDC117]

Not Yet I have the high ground.

[@anthonyhushbeck5053]

Not Yet It's treason then, *Autistic Screeching*

[@ericstull2420]

The core gameplay of classic Halo, what Bungie consistently delivered upon, was the 30 seconds of fun over and over and over again. 343 has lost this. 343 is too ignorant to even realize that the reason why Halo is failing is because the gameplay simply is no longer fun to play, the gameplay they changed to what it is now. Additionally, there developmental staff is incredibly new, those that grew up playing Halo, supposedly, yet saturated the mechanics that have been incorporated in other modern FPS shooters, failing to innovate whatsoever.

[@meinlpurealloychina227]

I think the only time Halo had "no competition" was during CE.

[@Bryanneo1]

Hence why the coined term "Halo Killer" was around after CE and Halo 2. Well the killer unfortunately turned out to be Halo itself.

[@yimpyoi9808]

also help CE was really good

[@Eduardo-vd8fo]

it even had more competition 2001 one is one of the best years for video games and had like 30 awesome games just to name one it was the release year of silent hill 2, max payne, gta 3, wolfestain, etc etc

[@brickgamer2269]

Wolfie 1217 It had plenty of competition back then actually. MGS2, Super Smash Bros Melee, GTA 3, the list can go on. Even more, Halo was brand new, and so was Xbox! And it beat competitors that were already popular franchises.

[@Eduardo-vd8fo]

i woulndt call it revolutionary.....but it bring to the table some mecanics and like regenating health and only carrying two waepons and that push fps in the consoles..... "but not revolutionary"

[@MechanicWolf85]

the problem isnt that halo 5 changed the problem was that halo adopted a game mechanic years after it was said by many gamers that "that mechanic sucked and it wasent fun" (cod advance warfare jet dashing) and then came halo and added what is known as an old and hated fast-paced jet packing dash mechanic

[@Ghost7065]

well Halo CE, 2 and 3 didn't have competition! ..... BECAUSE IT PWNED THE COMPETITION!!!

[@thealexgundam5006]

sadly that doesn't seem to be the case anymore now halo is nearly any other games bitch

[@Ghost7065]

Botheredhat360 OHHRAH!!

[@Helljumper7200]

*mlg hyperventilation intensifies*

[@mindofmyown333]

That argument is actually quite the compliment to Halo. It basically means that although Halo had a lot of competition....people only remember Halo

[@Sacrificial_Spaghetti]

Amazing video man, I absolutely hate that tired old argument and maybe this will finally get those people to shut up and understand that they are wrong, but then again, most people would rather shoot themselves in the foot than admit they were wrong.

[@SgtKOnyx]

DHA_Matthew Don't worry, I'll help with both lol

[@TheAK47striker]

honestly, as much as i dislike this halo, i would've probably bought it if it had split screen. but removing that was just to much. i don't even play that often with friends. just the mere fact that they dared to remove this feature disgusted me. they went too far

[@SgtKOnyx]

TheAK47striker Sheesh man, I don't even have a connection I could use for console gaming, imagine how I felt when my buddy got H5 and I went over to play with him.

[@synthdriver8817]

You know, when I showed one of my friends the weapon glitch in Forge Mode, my friend (who is an avid CoD player by the way) said he wanted to play. He was so disappointed and surprised when I told him they took out split screen.

[@TheAK47striker]

+SgtKOnyx i feel your pain man. it's disgraceful :*(

[@maxsmith2396]

The saddest thing about this video was that infinite warfare was well above halo 5 in the charts..... that's truly depressing

[@SquattingxBear]

Wow, what eye opening content. Honestly you could even go back to 2001 and point to other FPS games on the console market that Halo just simply beat out because it had good core gameplay experiences. 343i tried to fix something that wasnt broken and now look at the situation the entire franchise is in. Although I'm not gonna sit here and say H3 was the best Halo game, even if it was by the most popular. The slow base movement of that game is the reason why Sprint and other Spartan abilities exist today. I truly feel that if we got a game akin to H1 and H2, you really could recapture the audience, player base, and dominance that Halo saw from circa 2004-2009. But anyway, excellent video man. Love this type of content, although I do wish we got to watch MCC gameplay in the background instead of H5 :(

[@chandleraustin6346]

I havent owned an xbox since the 360 (switched to pc) but its good to see ppl still fighting to keep halo alive.

[@andrumcawesome9]

How is it everything that comes out of your mouth is what I think. Once again, you made a great video, keep up the good work!

[@JanezMLGucek]

Andru McAwesome Ikr, he really is the voice of the community

[@hrthrhs]

The argument of Halo 3 not having to compete with Overwatch and Destiny, would make SOME sense (at most) if Halo 5 was only being beaten by these games.

[@joshualammers3127]

roses are red violets are blue i'm not first and neither are you

[@salsaspartan7]

You make feel bad.

[@2big4u41]

I was actually first, but my comment was flagged as spam 👌😂🔫

[@somethingreallystupid1899]

It's red vs red and blue vs blue. It's I against I and me against you.

[@garraz-bf3ui]

"Just like the others you were strong and swift and brave, but you had something they didnt, can you guess?" YOU WERE A GOOD FUCKING GAME!

[@crosshair9907]

Video starts at 0:00

[@ernestomartinez5276]

IrishGamer1461 thx

[@michaelleft9020]

Really? Are you sure about that? You might want to double-check.

[@haloepic3092]

IrishGamer1461 0:30

[@TheFly212]

They need to make HALO 6 like HALO 2 mechanically.

[@brickgamer2269]

TheFly212 Please no. We do not need another hitscan game. That has already been proven to be a nightmare in Halo 5. I'd say a slightly faster Halo 2 movement with H5 Thrusters, Hover, and Ground Pound, along with an upgraded projectile system from H3. But seriously I don't want to see hitscan again.

[@TheFly212]

Brick Gamer No gay thruster packs or hovering. OG HALO. The best, purest HALO. That's HALO 2.

[@midgetman75]

Eh, i love halo 3 to death but those projectiles were funky

[@DudeQThat]

No, no no no no no no no no no. No more insta combos, no Bonnie weird glitches that'll fuck your shit up instantly (BXR), not that please.

[@Kevin-uj4uu]

@@TheFly212 uhhh halo ce is og halo and that had projectiles

[@Roniboney]

I don't think this video will silence these people in the slightest.You've refuted their arguments yes but the main issue is that the arguments from both sides are fundamentally incompatible with one another.Halo cannot exist with both types of player anymore.343i has a choice to make.....the classic mechanics and that community, or the members of the new community who will only play Halo with sprint and abilities. E3 this year,for myself and others, is crunch time.Either the devs fight for their fans the way the fans have fought for Halo........ or we leave the franchise....either way one group is going to get fucked.

[@FavynTube]

+Roniboney - Gaming Commentary to be fair "refuting the argument" was the point for this particular video. But you're not wrong

[@wadedewell]

Roniboney - Gaming Commentary i totally agree roniboney, the classic halo fans can not coexist with the new age advanced movement lovers..... 343 has to make a choice and sadly they already have.... actions speak louder then words ....... 343s actions and words since the creation of halo 4 prove that 343hates classic halo and love their corporate slave yesmen fanboys. sadly they will continue down their twisted sick microtransaction advanced movement hellish vision for the series..... modders will be the only way we get anything remotely classic halo

[@brickgamer2269]

Roniboney - Gaming Commentary I think the biggest problem is that 343 haven't even tried a classic style Halo game yet. Most new fans probably haven't even played true classic Halo, and no I'm not counting MCC. The old games are outdated in someways, and it's understandable why the new fans may prefer the new style. Maybe they haven't ever played the classic Halo games. Maybe they believe the old games are too slow. Maybe they did give the old Halos a try and didn't like it. We need a new classic Halo game so that classic fans can rejoice, while new fans can try the real Halo, and I don't think they're gonna hate it tbh. 343, and the fans of the new style, just need to give the classic style a try.

[@1ULTRAKNIGHT]

Roniboney - Gaming Commentary At the very least, either H3A, classic H6, or a spinoff game following Grey Team

[@bongibot1104]

I feel like they might be able to keep some of the fast paced mechanics of the newer games but remove running, so when you use speed perhaps there is a risk but also a reward if done right.

[@Bandarr9000]

You freaking destroyed their argument. You left nothing of their argument to stand. I get that was the goal but dang.

[@degobeats425]

Abolished. Destroyed. Deconstructed.

[@caz5774]

Favyn just go to 343 and make a Halo game already! Your arguments are insanely good and entertaining. #SignFavynUp343!

[@Eduardo-vd8fo]

and you're not even counting the single player games! i only play halo for its campaign and at that time it was Bioshock fear and its expansions (by the way my favorite games) and they say it didn't have competition...

[@helljumper6098]

Butthurt much?

[@ethandemille2585]

Hell Jumper Shut up dude, the Halo campaigns were legendary, sorry if we're mad because 343 fucked the story of our childhoods up

[@shawnSTNCH]

Halo 1-3 were innovative for the entire genre. They created the first party system before Xbox even had parties, they had friends lists, clans, MLG, competitive, popularized positive aim assist, had the first iteration of a “build your own map” gametype in forge, popularized theatre mode, popularized console file sharing, and popularized map expansions. File sharing and theatre mode are really the only things that haven’t properly transitioned to other titles or even the newer halo games. To say something as small brain as “it had no competition” is absurd. Halo defined a generation and is in a lot of ways the forefather of modern FPS titles

[@DivinusPrime]

Favynn 2007 is what I would call one of the "resonance years" of gaming. If you like or reply to this I'll elaborate to what I've said.

[@FavynTube]

+Jackson Richie it is arguably one of the biggest gaming years of all time

[@DivinusPrime]

Soooooo many franchises started in 2007, most of them have continued on while others have died off. Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Crysis, Portal, Bioshock, Borderlands, Uncharted, The Witcher, Rockband, Skate, The Darkness, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Overlord. 2007 was a year for everyone to enjoy a game no matter what it was. Fast forward 7 years later after that "age" we see a promising Titanfall and Destiny, both of which were marketed heavily and both of which we all fell for the hype and were deceived (Titanfall was mostly pretty good) making them big disappointments ESPECIALLY DESTINY. If you were to compare latest new IP's coming out right now to the ones in 2007 you are most likely foolish. New franchises are a huge risk nowadays with no guarantee hits, if said new IP flopped then said company will be out of business. This was certainly not the case for 2007. Sure 7 years can drastically change both economy and history wise. In conclusion; if you're a big dev company with big known franchises that keep you afloat you can definitely try something new and unique. If it fails then you still have your backups. The same CANNOT BE SAID for a new dev company that strives to achieve their dream of greatness, recognition, and critically acclaimed and beloved by gamers within the gaming industry, and if said developer and said IP has bullshit controversy surrounding the development of the game it will not do well. To understand this one must look no further than Mighty No. 9 and Yuka Laylee. Both of which are spiritual successors to critically acclaimed and beloved 90's franchises from their creators, but as test of time has shown some developers cannot keep up with today's standards and otherwise cannot improve from what they've done long ago. Can they learn from this mistake? Sure, but their name will forever be tainted. By no means am I a developer nor a journalist but a gamer that has seen so much of what the industry is coming to that all I can do is vote with my wallet and watch what unfolds.

[@DivinusPrime]

Pirates Life I agree. That's why I said 2007 was one of the golden ages of gaming but not "the" golden age.

[@OpposingReflection]

I honestly think that the reason Halo become so competitive is because it's gunplay was simple. However it was so well balanced that it felt complex and fast paced.

[@orbitaldropshock77]

Every time i see that you posted a vid, I'm always "iffy" if i should watch it, but you always have good and interesting, arguments that entertain me. Keep up the good work.

[@spectrallmusic]

Still applicable for halo infinite today, which recently had a lower player count than Black ops 2.

[@vanillagorilla284]

favyn just wanted to say love your videos, and love how you dont sugar coat things and cut straight thru all the BS you da best

[@Omega4Productions]

To think 2007 was pretty much the golden year of gaming...don't know if I'm the only one to think this, but it pretty much went down hill after 2010...not just for Halo, but for gaming in general.

[@PartyUpLive]

You, Act Man, and Roni Boni are the only KZbinrs that, when you upload a Halo Video(Yes, I watch your other videos too), I will watch it as soon as I can and I generally agree with what you guys say about the franchise. My busy schedule does not allow me to be as hardcore about Halo and Gears of War(my other true love on Xbox) as I would like. But I would love if I had a chance to chat with you guys on the Halo series and talk about your thoughts on its future. I've been playing since day one split-screen. Keep up the great work.

[@IIMoNsTerII7]

original halo gameplay had a niche that no other games had but with all the new increased movement changes it blended halo with other titles that have similar gameplay. look at the multi-player scene for halo 3 and halo 5. there isn't the same amount of hype for halo 5 mp as there was for halo 3.

[@helljumper6098]

Halo 5 sux

[@shinoblitz9641]

IIMoNsTerII7 actually before release and the teaser for spartan abilities a lot of ppl liked it only reason there is so much hate on it now is because it was implemented incorrectly, it effected major parts of the game, and the once basic thought "of someone in a gun fight one of them has to die" changed to if "if they're losing the gun fight they can actually escape" in older halos I've noticed in pretty much every gun fight someone died or they had to jump to a lower level or farther distance to survive it and even so they had to inch over to their escape route mid battle, but in newer halo you can be fighting someone and when they're shields are gone they boost right out the area, it frustrates ppl because in a sense the escape artist was very OP and that didn't fit with what was know in halo

[@seanbyrne7919]

There is a reason that halo 1, 2 and 3 were so popular, because they were fucking awesome games. Halo 4 and 5 and very sub par and have lost touch with what halo feels like. Halo 2 despite its flaws is still my most favourite game and holds some of my best gaming memories.

[@clydemarshall8095]

With the release of Halo Wars Definitive Edition, what do you think are the chances we will see the release of all the Bungie Era games on PC or at least all of the original trilogy?

[@xion707]

Hey favyn! I love your content. every time I get a notification for one of your new videos I watch it at least 3 times because your videos are THAT good! each time I rewatch a vid it gives me a different perspective on things that I wouldn't have thought of before hand, and it makes my gaming experience all around better. keep up the great work man!

[@fgk1262]

Halo Reach received competition from mw2, black ops and even halo 3 which all sold millions and millions of copies on the 360 and guess what? It still sold millions and had nearly a million players after it launched. Halo 4 had less competition from lower selling cod games such as mw3 and bo2 and it had 10k players after launch. 343 had less competition than Bungie and still fucked it up.

[@Purely0wnt]

FG K12 I believe mw3 was actually a best seller for cod, wasn't good but people bought it.

[@fgk1262]

+Purely Fair point but the main competitor to halo 4 was bo2 and that game had a decline in sales due to mw3. In fact a lot of cod players jumped shift to bo2 as that game had more players despite having lower sales than mw3. I'd still argue Halo 3 and Reach had way more competition than 4 and 5.

[@salsaspartan7]

FG K12 "Halo 4 had less competition from lower selling cod games such as mw3 and bo2" What in the WORLD are you talking about?!? MW3 and BO2 are in the top 3 selling Call of Duty games. In fact, MW3 IS the highest selling COD game. It crossed 1 Billion dollars in 16 days. Beating out the movie Avatar, which crossed 1 Billion in 17 days. MW3 broke Avatars record to become the fastest selling entertainment property at the time. And Black Ops 2 only sold about 1.3 Million less units than MW3. MW3 & BO2 being one of the "lower selling cods"? Lol. Gimme a break. Also 343 had more competition than Bungie. Yes, Bungie had competition, but the difference was that Bungie WAS the competition. Whereas 343 HAS competition.

[@fgk1262]

+SalsaSpartan7 Okay but that still doesn't defeat my argument about how Bungie's Halo games playlist population survived the competition. Halo 3 still had over 100k after cod 4, waw, mw2 and blops. Reach had nearly a million players after mw2, no and halo 3. Bungie's halo games still met competition and the games pulled through. Halo 4 had slightly more competition from bo2 and mw3 and it had 10k players after launch. Bare in mind both Halo 4 and Reach both sold roughly 8 million had a similar size of competition and one clearly resonated better with the halo fanbase. In conclusion Bungie had competition and pulled through, 343 had competition and failed to keep a strong player base. The fact that mw3 and bo2 sold more than I stated proves nothing.

[@salsaspartan7]

FG K12 What? I wasn't trying to defeat your argument about the population numbers. I was just showing you how you were wrong on your statement regarding the Call of Duty games. I already know everything you are saying with the population numbers. I wasn't trying to argue that. SMH...

[@DivinusPrime]

I refuse to acknowledge Halo 5's existence lol

[@Omega4Productions]

I've forgotten all about it, to be honest. Haven't picked it up for over a year.

[@lewigimole]

mythic on reach, completed 4, never touched 5. kinda sums up what has happened to halo

[@LarryGambino]

lewis yeomans tbh youre better off trying 5 than 4. theyre both garbage but 5 is at least a little playable esp on custom games .

[@mokhot]

i played halo reach recently and it was brilliant - way better then cod - very intelligent game

[@TheQuadraticAttenuator]

Reach was a bungie game.. so it makes sense why you find it to be good :P I personally didn't like the armor abilities in multiplayer, but aside from that, it was a great game!

[@momentmaster7126]

The force is strong with this channel

[@ultraelite8281]

Halo has always had competition. It had call of duty, it had sony, it had the playstation console. HALO IS JUST A GOOD GAME IT IS A BRILLIANT FRANCHISE IT WAS ON TOP BECAUSE ALL OTHER GAMES PALED IN CONPARISON TO IT WHOEVER SAYS HALO HAD NO COMPETITION IS AN IDIOT.

[@stardogdc1408]

Cod going back to its roots and positive interest is already popping up. Sad day when halo needs to learn from cod

[@spartanchole4004]

StardogDC lol they don't think halo need go to there roots COD just following battlefield 1 yes creater of new COD will say they Been making this game for more then year when it's funny how battlefield does ww1 and does well and few months late COD does same thing very werid

[@stardogdc1408]

Spartan Chole The problem is that they don't think they need to go back to the original style and that they need to "innovate" the halo 5 gameplay (this mean add more things from other shooters that have been done to death) when you can easily innovate in the classic formula, halo 3 did this very well with equipment. Halo should only innovate the gameplay within the halo triangle (gun, melee, grenade) and the reason that the triangle works so well is that you don't have to change speed or movement to do these things, this is why sprint and advance mobility do not work in halo period (this is coming from someone who was pro sprint and has since changed they're opinion). Halo 3 did this very well with equipment, this added new gameplay experiences without hurting the gameplay, but rather improving it. Now about cod. WW2 was in development before battlefield one was announced. The reason why WW2 is getting praised is not because they're jumping on the Hype train, but rather because people didn't like advance warfare and bo3 and IW were already to far along in development to be scrapped and activision wasn't about to miss the yearly cod deadline. And when halo has to learn from cod to stop following the hype and get back to basics, that is a sad day indeed.

[@spartanchole4004]

StardogDC well only one thing I disagree with you from little bit I read Having Sprite in halo was thing that was need

[@spartanchole4004]

Halo doesn't need learn anything from COD And COD ww2 was rumoured near same time battlefield 1 was announced So again I highly doubt COD what just follows hype train didn't change just because of battlefield For example all jumping shit was in COD not long after Titanfall what got people talking So again COD following hype train is easy to see since they have done it before

[@stalker2387]

StardogDC so wrong and I can't believe people haven't caught on what COD has been doing for last 5 or so years Since in less then year after hype fps comes out COD some how has stuff what were in that hype game Advance warfare came not that long after Titanfall Some reason has jumping shit yes no wall running because people are smart and would click and realise Battlefield 1 hyped old style game COD was rumoured to be making ww2 game not long after battlefield 1 and before that people where saying COD should go to its roots But it's odd how less then year again COD follows hype train Ans halo added jump shit because most gamer where saying it need it since other games did So again COD follows hype train Heck last COD dlc only that way because they wanted have stupid shit like marvel since that big thing

[@barrymcg3632]

I'm so glad I came across your channel, you speak so much sense.

[@Fairfieldfencer]

Bonus fact: Halo 5 sold 5 million copies in its first three months. It is estimated Halo 3 sold 5.2 million in its first two weeks.

[@sassydasasquatch608]

What’s funny is there’s still no game at least on console that plays like the first 3 halos

[@Seboilba]

Over the past few years, without me really noticing, I've been subconsciously questioning Whether my favourite game was actually good but you've reassured me that I'm not crazy after all

[@Bryanneo1]

I just get more and more pissed off at Halo 5 when you make these videos. It genuinely makes me sad to see such a titan of gaming fall and there can still be people saying "It's fine, everything's okay, Halo has to keep changing."

[@wadedewell]

Bryanneo1 classic halo is never coming back. 343 hates classic halo and frank oconnor admitted to hiring people who hate halo to form the core of the studio..... 343 will continue to ignore the true halo fans and cater to the braindead cum guzzling 343 fanboys and the new age asshats compare bungies old halo vid docs vs 343 discussing the series...... bungie back then LOVED HALO AND HAD PASSION TO MAKE THE BEST GAME POSSIBLE.... 343 ONLY CARES ABOUT MILKING THE FRANCHISE TO DEATH 343 will continue down their twisted sick microtransaction advanced movement hellish vision for halo and will keep copying whatever the other fps games are doing......( except going classic) 343 has shown extreme disrespect, hate, apathy, for everything classic halo including its fans! they continue to shit on halos legacy and wont stop until the series dies or they are disbanded. i fucking HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE 343 FOR RUINING HALO modders and fangames ARE OUR ONLY HOPE FOR ANYTHING THAT IS TRULY HALO 343 are adolf hitler and the fanboys are the nazis that didnt oppose him

[@Bryanneo1]

You can stop with the copy and paste now

[@shinoblitz9641]

Wade Dewell you can stop with being a rude, immature, douche

[@Bryanneo1]

If he read even remotely he would know how stupid that was ;p

[@reachkilledhalo7427]

Sad that this had to be made. It's such an obvious reality without even going this in-depth.

[@Ja.abbatta_V]

seen the title of the video and liked before I even watched it

[@DoseOfBrute]

favyn I fucking love you man you just speak to the truth and you're honest and just. I've watched all your Halo videos in the past year or maybe a bit over and everything you say I 100% agree with. I'm glad you're here and I believe that YOUR voice is also my voice. I'll be added to your patron once I become an apprentice ;). please don't go corrupt. you are the voice of a large number of people. once again, I'm glad you're here.

[@redalertsteve_]

Anyone who made that comment has no idea what they are talking about

[@i8agrape]

Hey favyn, what do you think about a system for spawning weapons in warzone similar to counter strike's to replace the req system? I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this.

[@mcmitch1912]

I've been saying this for so long, since Halo 4 came out. The franchise I grew up with isn't there. I remember spending one weekend morning, really early (because kids get up at like 6:30), and I had nothing to do. My dad, to keep me out of his room for however long he could, set me up on the family 360 playing Halo CE. This game, this franchise, I grew up on it. I have played every game in the franchise since I was little. I played hours of Grifball with my dad and his friends. Hell, we were so excited for Halo's return, we were gonna play through the Halo 4 campaign. But it wasn't there. The game felt wrong. I don't know what it is, but it's gone. Like I never grew up on whatever franchise it was supposed to be from. After that, and the campaign of Halo 5, I knew it wasn't going back. To me, the beauty of Halo was in it's revolutionary simplicity, that simplicity that they've held since the beginning. It's always been the same at it's core. No matter how much stuff they had added, it was still the same thing I played when I was little, sitting in my basement and playing Halo CE that early morning for the first time. But just look at it now. The copious microtransactions, the poor social features, the story that left tons to be desired, and all these new mechanics, with stuff like that spartan charge. Whatever happened to simplicity? That arena style combat that I came to love? It's honestly heartbreaking to me. That the franchise that defined a moment in my life when I really started to play games, was just gone. It's truly the reason I don't own an Xbox One. The one reason I'd get the console is now a reason for me to stay away from it.

[@GetShrekd]

halo 3 was halo at its highest imo. Loved it and thought it couldn't get better. Now, halo 5 still isn't bad. I think its very good and people are a bit too harsh on it.

[@OozyGorilla]

To me, the only way the "no competition" argument makes sense is within the realm of other FPSs. There were no other FPSs that did what classic Halo did and there still isn't. As far as I'm concerned, 343 intentionally gave Halo 4/5 more competition because they decided to do what every other "modern" FPS does. Just about every other FPS did the enhanced movement sooner and did it better. All of a sudden, Halo is competing with other FPSs in the same way and just doesn't do it as well. The other franchise have far more experience with the "modern" FPS mechanics and they do it better. Why would 343 want to compete with that when it was shown that what classic Halo did was more popular? Halo had a niche in the FPS genre that was extremely popular. It was unique in what it provided in both the FPS genre and games as a whole. In that way, there was no competition. But that's not how 99% of those that make the competition argument use it. Favyn did a pretty good job of deconstructing that argument. Sure, there are many reasons outside Halo itself that could/can explain Halo's loss of popularity, but all of them are excuses to not look at Halo itself. You can blame things like competition and the market for its poor sales, but it's mostly a way to avoid critizising the game and 343 themselves.

[@Galomortalbr]

kkkkkkk no , halo had a ton of competion , it had Half-Life, FEAR, Deus EX, Call of duty, Battlefield, Medal of Honor what made halo so popular was controls and mechanics where specialised for joystick, while other games where made for pc first and felt weird playing them on console, playing halo on pc also fell very weird. halo mostly had horizontal levels, aim acceleration and aim drag, some weapons shots followed your enemies for you, enemies where easy to identify based on their silhoute what helped when you where far away from the screen, and other things make it a pleasure to be played on xbox

[@leroyjenkins4484]

Favyn freaking killed this video. Short, sweet, to the point. Nothing but facts.

[@digitalshinigami8441]

hey this isnt really about this video just wanted to say in general that I love this channel. the weird thing is I'm even a halo fan (never have been never will be) but i enjoy hearing you talk about it anyways. your arguments are well thought out, level headed and it clearly comes from a place of love. To many people when they love something make excuses for any flaws or short comings it has but its refreshing to see someone who realizes that just cuz you live something doesn't mean you don't criticize it, and that in fact criticizing it is the only it can improve. I also just feel that allot of things you say about halo can be applied to allot of other series. anyways just wanted to say keep up the good work. :)

[@newlevel_zb1858]

Bravo man, perfectly delivered Had to comment on this one, amazing vid

[@Reach4God1]

It's no secret that H6 will unfortunately just be more of H5. At this point the best we can hope for is an offshoot game that brings back old mechanics. If it is widely praised and does well, perhaps it will be enough to influence the main numbered games. There just isn't enough people playing enhanced-mobility-halo to sustain the brand.

[@Nikkerman]

I think that the only game that this argument could be true for is Halo CE because most of the good games that came out that year were not in the same genre, but come on, Halo 2 had to compete with Half life 2, CounterStrike, and Metroid Prime 2 and Halo 3 had to compete with COD 4, Bioshock, Crisis, Mass Effect, and TF2 which are all games that have a 85 or above on Metacritic and that are 1st person shooters meanwhile when halo 5 came out in 2015 there were 0 first person shooters earning above an 85 on metacritic. The fact that anyone would resort to this argument to me is rediculous because having a game that comes out the same year as COD 4 you better belive it had some danm fine competition.

[@jericosha2842]

Great video. Thanks for the effort in putting this together. Will be sharing.

[@DaklogGaming]

Let's not forget that Halo 2 also had large games that it was competing with back in 2003-2005. Counter-Strike, Timesplitters: Future Perfect, Call of Duty: Finest Hour, Doom 3, Half-Life 2, Return To Castle Wolfenstein, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas all had Xbox versions that came out during this period. I didn't even mention the big shooters on other systems like Metroid Prime 2 and Killzone.

[@andresdi747]

I think not , halo had competition against COD MW4, all the pc games etc

[@SgtKOnyx]

Andres Di huh, it's almost like he mentioned that

[@murricaneagle8876]

it's so refreshing to see that you're not like every other gaming channel out there who just uses Halo's past success as justification on how halo is just awesome because it's titled halo. we need to take it back to halo 3

[@8joshzilla]

There was way more competition then than now.

[@hexreapers162]

Good shit as always Favyn! I'm curious, what's the ETA on the level design/classic gameplay vid?

[@FavynTube]

+HeX Reapers those are 2 different vids. I hope to have 1 up next week and the other a couple weeks after

[@hexreapers162]

Ah sick. While I've grabbed your attention, whats your thoughts on WW2 Zombies returning to a gritty horror survival? Supposedly it's going to have an in-depth story as well. Just asking because I just saw your pre-reveal WW2 vid, and you seem to prefer Zombies sticking to its crazy modern day adaptations.

[@shirtymop6463]

It's a testament to Halo 2 that it sold so well in a year when Half Life 2 was released, and to 3 for doing so well in the year where the Orange Box came out.

[@Luissv72]

Him: There is A PROBLEM with Halo Me: Yeah, and it's name is 343 Industries

[@Goaheadandstaymad21332]

"Halo was really popular because it had no competition" Exactly. Knocked all the other games off the the charts

[@kingorange7739]

Favyn thank you for making this. It's incredible how real u r with the nature of halo right now. And Halo is dying not because of competition, it's dying because halo doesn't know its self. Allow me to say a quote from a general of Wisdom that reflects halo and the gaming market, "if you know ur enemy and ur self u may fear not the results of a hundred battles. However if u know the enemy but not ur self, every victory will have a defeat as well." That sums halo in my opinion. Thanks bro and reply if u like. Thanks and peace out bro.

[@malachiedwards3783]

If they released Halo 6 with two versions (Modern and Classic: Modern being Halo 5 style, sprint, magnum, etc, and Classic brig Halo 3 style gameplay, sounds, graphics) the game would be a HUGE success. It would also be apparent to 343 which play style is the preferred one throughout the community both casually and competitively

[@neilshewmaker9241]

Halo 3 had no competition Because the other releases didn’t stand a chance

[@silverbackbacon5]

The one and only time the Xbox One has outsold the PS4? November. 2014. What a slap in the face that was to millions of loyal Halo fans. Great video.

[@AleK0451]

bro the ps2 had warhammer 40k fire warrior how the hell could anyone say that og halo had no competition, it even says on the box "who needs halo" and "you're gonna cream your pants"

[@riahisama]

great video as always, do people really use that argument? I can't believe it

[@MatthewGilligan]

If Halo 6 is not complete at lauch I'm not gonna buy it.

[@P0Wmrang]

I love you so much. Thank you for destroying that phony argument. One question though: if you have the problems that you do with Halo 5, why do you still play it?

[@FavynTube]

+Bob Plays I dont. Some of my subs are kind enough to send me gameplay :)

[@vladhimirtheophile9690]

It didn't have competition????????? Modern warfare, gears of war, and battlefield to name a few.

[@Shades2001]

GTA IV G-T-A IV

[@darthmisogyny3828]

Vladhimir Theophile gears1 beat halo2 as the most played game on Xbox COD4 was the closest to beating halo3 with them going back to to back for number 1 spot but MW2 finished it then blop1 outsold MW2 and had 1 million players for a while cod was wat beat halo because they release every damn year while halo is released almost every 3 years

[@shinoblitz9641]

Titanfall, COD(you can argue about its poor sales but halo was in the same boat after halo 4, actually moment bungie stopped making halo tons of players left it for dead) BF, gears, rainbow six, ghost recon, home front, not to mention bungie went up against most of these ppl not 343, 343 is still a bit new to it so they look to others for inspirational well as fans. Argue all you want but in the end it's was a vet company going against other vets and winning while now it's a seemingly rookie going against vets, (yes it's true they could've looked at old halo for inspiration but why take inspiration from something you want to change)

[@GreatfulGert]

Great video. Do you have an Elgato?

[@Stallnig]

The argument is dead by just mentioning the amount of content Halo 3 had.

[@Summer_Tea]

6:35 What about Battlefield? Battlefield was never competing with Halo 3 because it simply didn't exist on consoles. One of the main reasons I personally stopped enjoying Halo games was because I felt like Battlefield was just a more enjoyable shooter. Edit: Just continued watching and you cited Bad Company 1 as competition. This is blatantly dishonest as BC1 was a TERRIBLE game any way you cut it. The game was an absolute travesty and was basically Dice's pet experiment on how to make a Battlefield game on console. The controls of the game were basically that of a PC port, what with needing to hold the thumbstick down constantly to sprint which gave my thumb blisters. The 12 players per team cap and other balancing issues left this game not even on the list of valid BF titles. I agree with you on every other point in this video, but Bad Company 1 has no excuse to be considered "competition" to any game whatsoever. I guess it did sell, though. It's hard for me to reconcile the mass market's take on BF vs. Halo, but for me personally, I was always attracted to Halo purely for its big team battle gameplay, and BF just does it so much better to me.

[@FavynTube]

+Natsu blatantly doshonest? So a franchise doesn't count if the game was bad? Highly subjective and a slippery slope. Bad company was the SECOND BF game on the xbox. Why is it halos fault that it was better at the time? Your just proving my point further. It's not that it didn't have competition, it was BETTER than the competition. And when the competition got better? Halo got worse.

[@Summer_Tea]

I'll agree that Halo 2/3 was vastly better than BF's competition. But it's kind of unfair to cite both past and modern BF games as one in the same. Battlefield has had an absolute face lift and is not even close to being the same franchise that it started out as on console. I fully agree with you on every other game listed here, and that the old trilogy was vastly better than the new one. But there's still that thought in the back of my head that if 4 and 5 were actually similar to the original trilogy and were even more well-received than the originals, I still would probably not play them. And the reason for that is because modern BF games have stolen my attention entirely.

[@FavynTube]

+Natsu right but separate yourself from your personal attachment to BF. Would you not say that Destiny is competition to Halo? Of course you would but you could make the argument destiny is actually a pretty bad game, yet still popular. In fact the original bad company has a better average review score than destiny. So why is BF not competition for halo 3 and yet on average a more poorly reviewed game destiny is considered competition for halo 5? There's more than just quality at play when it comes to competition.

[@Summer_Tea]

Strong point. I did not realize Destiny was that poorly reviewed. I think the issue here is that people who might be possessed to make an argument like the topic of the video are reasoning from their own personal perspectives of what games have personally moved them away from Halo. I'd definitely say that it's a combination of other franchise improvements and Halo's downfall. I would say that Halo sucking lately would be the bigger culprit. :P

[@FavynTube]

+Natsu then I think we are in agreement :) Lots of factors at play. Other games gaining gamers trust, sure. But also halo losing that trust with poorly received games. Amongst countless other factors!

[@wafflingmean4477]

Another thing is people go after new things and experiences, and Halo used to provide that by setting the trends and staples of the genre. Now they try to copy half the people around them and often shy away from new ideas. As a result to the casual gamer Halo has been quite forgotten, blending in somewhere at the back of the crowd rather than leading from the front.

[@reachkilledhalo7427]

I know you've gotten more attention lately so you're trying to be more polite, but please don't stop the blunt, honest, to-the-point natured content like that found in this video.

[@FavynTube]

+Reach Killed Halo this videos not THAT old haha. I'll still be blunt when I think it would make my argument better ;)

[@hardway4475]

It needed to be said. Excellent work as always dude. Thanks for what you do.

[@charmander0fatboy]

Halo is SICK!!! And favyn is diagnosing the problem. 343 needs to perform the surgery

[@MrRickPatel]

The ranking system is why I play as it is competitive byhaving ranks. Halo CE-Halo 3 had too slow game play, how frustrating is it knowing you can't sprint or get to the other side of the map

[@propaneblanco5373]

Holy shit I didn't even know that was an argument, like seriously the MCC crash turned a lot of people away. Even people who don't play halo said Halo 5 is like COD.