Hands-on with the TUDOR Black Bay 58 GMT. Better in the metal?

[@mrgee007]

Hats off to you Simon. The people you get on your channel is a Stella achievement. Come on people, get this guy over 10k subs. I have the BB 41 heritage witch has silver numbers on the bezel, not gilt like the BB58, and I think that's what they should have done on this new GMT, it just has too much gilt. Keep the gilt on the indices, and hands, that's it, job done!

[@Escapement24]

Thanks dude, really appreciated 🙏 Growth is HARD on YT with so many great channels all competing for views, but I'll keep plugging away and lining up great content opportunities

[@steevkeyes]

A month ago I purchased the Tudor black Bay 58 GMT 39 mm. To my surprise and disappointment, the next day I noticed that the 12H hour hand was not in sync with the 24H GMT hand. Specifically the hour hand lagged about a quarter of an hour behind where it should have been is synchronized with the GMT hand. This occurred only after some four hours of setting both hands (when they were in sync). I returned the watch to my AD where they instantly recognized the fault with the movement. Fortunately my AD gave me a full refund, and sent the watch back to Rolex for investigation and service. I understand that this is a new in-house movement by and for Tudor. I was left wondering if Tudor was too hasty to rush this new calibre to market. But I was surprised that a watch manufacturer of their reputation could allow this mechanical fault to get through their quality assurance program.

[@Escapement24]

Sorry to hear about your experience. Tudor have had movement and QC issues in the past - I remember an issue with the date wheel on the original BB GMT movement that was widely reported on in forums and some Pelagos owners used to experience the lume falling off the bezel insert. All brands will have the occasional warranty issue but the real test is in how they deal with it and restore customer confidence.

[@artaudcharles]

I tried it on 4 times; it is gorgeous. The watch fits my 7-inch wrist very well. I have worn my friend’s Black Bay GMT (41mm); the 58 is a major improvement.

[@dieterenge8498]

I have the Black Bay 58 GMT and it is a real nice Watch.

[@Supercruze]

I hear some folks calling the new Tudor BB58 GMT the Dr. Pepper. I think that name fits. I held this watch on bracelet in the AD a couple weeks ago and it was impressive and a real beauty, but it did not dissuade me from my intended purchase of the Tudor BB Pro which I absolutely love. Enjoying your channel content. Keep up the great work.

[@Escapement24]

Thanks man 🙏 I much prefer the aesthetic of the BB Pro, but I do wish it had the thinner GMT movement of the 58 GMT

[@skier18]

I was unsure on the gilt a week after having a look and try on off it last week. I let it settle a week and then went back and picked it up today

[@Escapement24]

Congrats man, enjoy 👏👏

[@Hiking-Mountaineer]

Fair and insightful!

[@Escapement24]

Thank you! 🙏

[@LvlogS.]

I bought this watch 2 weeks ago without seeing it in real life before because it’s such a rare watch to find sitting! It’s even more beautiful in the flesh, and I’m so so happy with my purchase 😁😄

[@Escapement24]

Congrats man!! 👏

[@greenrush4313]

sure u are shirley for sure

[@greenrush4313]

u would rather have the rolex woulndt u?

[@Calmness1014]

I tried this on a couple of weeks ago and it's stunning it really is!

[@chrissarjeant2680]

picked mine up a few weeks a go and am really impressed . this is my third Tudor after having a north flag and pelagos39 and i think they are great value compared to other brands . if its your only watch then yes the gilt might seem a bit much , but if you have others then i think the BB58 GMT stands out and just offers something a bit different.

[@siufunglam3690]

I bought last week and like the burgundy vintage look and price is reasonable 😊

[@Escapement24]

Congrats! 👍

[@Julian_O91]

Stunning Watch! The Ultimate Black Bay 58! :)

[@joemyers9893]

Good video Simon,i do like that Tudor BB58 GMT,could be on my shopping list.

[@Escapement24]

Thanks Joe, let me know if you decide to pick one up!

[@jjlad5037]

I was just thinking how I needed another Tudor jumping date GMT.

[@MikoTheTomCat]

Is there some date jumping issue with them?

[@jjlad5037]

@@MikoTheTomCat …Google Tudor GMT jumping date.

[@Mench951]

They fixed that issue years ago. But keep making the same comment over and over again as if it has current relevance.

[@jjlad5037]

@@Mench951 ..no they didn't!

[@Mench951]

@@jjlad5037 yeah they did. I bought one of their first GMTs and had the jumping date issue. Sent it back and they fixed it. It's been working perfectly for years. You saying otherwise doesn't make it true.

[@b_altmann]

Yes a bit too much with the "gilt" elements. It's meant to be the yellowing of the material on the vintage Rolex. By the way, it is plexiglas on the Rolex bezel, not bakelite. Rolex cleared this up once and for all in their latest magazine.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

Who’s this handsome presenter? Keep up the amazing work brother 👍🏼 and I want to check out this BB58 GMT in person.

[@Escapement24]

Hey brother I've missed you! I'd love to hear your take on the 58 GMT once you've had a hands-on with it 👍

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

@@Escapement24 Missed you too my man and as soon as I get the opportunity I’m definitely giving my thoughts!

[@emmanueltsI5]

Came here for the GMT, stayed for watching your Tudor BB pro:)

[@Escapement24]

Good man! Hopefully I earned your sub too 🙏🙌

[@gabigolz]

@@Escapement24lol this comment just made me subscribe myself. All the best to you with your channel and looking forward to great content.

[@Escapement24]

Thanks so much 🙏🙏

[@daviddeavours4909]

I bought the BB58 GMT last week, and for me it is the best & most favorite watch I've ever owned. It's build quality and attention to detail is outstanding. When I wear it I get the same feeling as the first time I drove a Porsche or the first time I wore my very first Rolex (a quarter of a century ago!). It's impossible to describe how good it looks - and how good it feels in the wrist. I find myself - even now - stopping and just admiring the beauty if this Black Bay 58 GMT. To put it in perspective, I have a Black Bay GMT in opaline, an Black Bay 58 and a Black Bay 39mm. The BB58 GMT is better than those 3 watches put together (IMHO).

[@Escapement24]

Congrats!! It's awesome to hear the passion you have for it and I love that watches can do that to us 👍

[@jaywhite1141]

I love this watch

[@diego750]

Most of my watch collection has a similar look, with the gold details here and there. I guess you could say I have a gilt complex.

[@Escapement24]

🤣🤣🤣

[@diego750]

@@Escapement24 in fact my buddies have similar tastes cos they like the style, which is gilt by association

[@jjlad5037]

You need not worry about the gilt...once the date starts jumping, you wont notice the guilt anymore.

[@josephotico6175]

badum tss

[@jb-hw9if]

I'd be interested to hear your thoughts about the wearability of the new GMT versus the Pro. Is the thickness reduction in the new all down to the case back protruding from the case less than the Pro? I, like you, wear a Pro and I love it but I'm just interested to know. I was anticipating the being a Tudor x Visa RB release and in your video there is one, pictured in front of the F1 steering wheel at W&W. That's just a development watch I guess? I don't believe it's publicly available? Any info on this? Cheers

[@Escapement24]

It's a shame I wasn't wearing my Pro at Watches and Wonders so I could do a direst comparison, but the side profile of the case of the 58 definitely seemed thinner...but maybe only by 1mm or so. This would make sense as the 58 has a new GMT movement (I think the Pro uses the same 5652 movement as the regular BB GMT). The VISA RB BB Ceramic was on display but no mention of whether this blue dial version of the Ceramic will be made publicly available as part of the range. If they were going to I suspect they'd have done it already, with a release to coincide with the start of the F1 season. Who knows...maybe they'll launch it at one of the big races on the F1 calender later in the year, such as Au Dhabi or Las Vegas 🤔

[@chefPierrickBoyer]

It’s a YES to me

[@MikoTheTomCat]

Did you actually get your hands on it?

[@Escapement24]

Those are indeed my hands in the video

[@lakota_stu]

Id love to see the ranger with applied indices

[@garypeaton]

I think if they bring one out in the monochrome colour In 58 GMT It sell quicker than hot cakes. For now I’m sticking to my PEPSI BB GMT. I like all the specs but don’t want to rock guilt look.

[@Hennypenny8888]

Watch it depreciate in value as soon as it leaves the shop!

[@carlmoulton5719]

What, likel pretty much every single watch brand in the world do you mean? It’s a luxury item, not a capital growth investment! 👀🤣

[@gavinwhite9743]

Think the gilt is too much for me. However, Tudor watches have had a pop of colour for the past 10 years. The new monochrome Black Bay is lovely, but wonders dangerously close to clomage territory, with the risk people mistake it for a Rolex. So maybe that gilt keeps it more in line with the rest of the range.

[@michaelfierman3256]

I’m afraid I have not seen it in the metal yet. My initial reaction is the same as most people. Can’t get past the gilt. It’s just a bit “too much” and I’ll guess that if it had come out in 2020 most people would be fawning over it. I feel the “vintage vibe” is stale. Love the monochrome 41 and also that Pelagos you showed.

[@Escapement24]

That's a really good point - while this is the watch "everyone wanted", I wonder if the past tense is actually spot on. It feels like Tudor might have missed the GMT craze and I wonder if the community has moved on?

[@carlmoulton5719]

If people don’t like gilt/two tone watches then they shouldn’t try to force themselves to like it. It is selling like hot cakes and if you do like the gilt/two tone look it’s an unbelievable watch. If you don’t, fair enough but it’s not a fault of the watch. It’s personal taste.

[@itsoonbedone]

Love the gilt! Always have.

[@Escapement24]

And that's what keeps this hobby interesting - we can all love different things! 👍

[@LouisMorales-zx3jm]

Tried it on. Nice, but can’t help to see an homage. So pass for me. I will wait for the call for the GMT 2.

[@carlmoulton5719]

It’s an outstanding true gmt, cosc, metas certified watch for 4k. No watch wearer is more insecure than one that needs to bang on about rolex all day. We all know the connection with rolex and Tudor and Tudor no doubt dip into the catalogue for vintage inspired pieces but they not homages like a steinhart.

[@leeharding8306]

I’ve seen this watch in the flesh too and the gilt and the bezel gloss really ruins it for me. Also it’s thicker than the standard 58 which is fair enough but the standard 58 is just perfect in its proportions. When they do a non gilt version which they will it will be a different story. Obviously the new standard 58 will come out next year and that’s going to be the one to get. Who really needs a GMT anyway? Having said that who needs a 4K watch 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@carlmoulton5719]

Who needs to complain about a watch that is .8mm thicker than the original 58! An identical looking but inferior in every way 1950’s rolex gmt does for late £50,000’s. I’ll take the Tudor

[@stevehilliard202]

Not for me ... the slow burner from Tudor is the Black Bay however my watch of '24 is the white speedy.

[@thegorn]

What's all this talk about date jumping? Did I miss the memo?

[@EdmundPorter-ju8kd]

I’m not crazy about the gilt either.

[@michaelkilbride2927]

Buy a glycine combat sub gmt Swiss made Swiss movement well made and with the money you have saved take the famley on a luxury holday

[@Escapement24]

Glycine is an underrated brand IMO and I think the acquisition by Invicta probably hasn't helped their image. I had a combat sub a few years ago and it offered amazing bang for the buck.

[@firstnamelastname-ys3mz]

Booooorring