MLM HORROR STORIES #79 | Mary Kay has a retirement plan?! Fake Instagram personas

[@CaSCHWANK]

your husband standing there in the middle of a pet store convincing you to get 2 cats instead of one is a bouquet of green flags

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

They were adopted from a shelter, which is much better than a pet store 😊. But I'm really happy they got Zeke, his appearances are always the best.

[@CaSCHWANK]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley our pet stores only have cats from the local humane society, I didn't realize there were still pet stores that don't do it that way tbh :o

[@marialegare3954]

My MLM mini-story for today: I'm cleaning up this morning in anticipation of an apartment inspection where they come in and turn on all the lights and run the faucets and such to make sure everything works. Which means they'll be peeking in my shower. Do you know what I did? I hid my shampoo 😂 it's a bottle that somebody gave me a really long time ago so I don't even remember who, but I only just noticed the other day that it's actually from Amway. So I'm using it of course, because why not, it works fine, but I don't want anybody thinking I actually buy from them 😂 super dumb, I know, there's no way they would actually notice. But there it is.

[@TheYazmanian]

😂😂😂😂

[@h0t_pock3t]

I don't blame you😂😂

[@Michybon]

😂😂😂😂

[@janemclean7032]

❤

[@reidleblanc3140]

This is gold XD

[@velvetnightmare3133]

If I ever get a cold message, I'm definitely going to calmly say no 7 times in a row straight to their face so that the message gets across on the first try LOL.

[@dennissems]

😂😂😂

[@misscutenar2333]

see, I was considering that as well, but would that actually count as the seven nos or is that only one because its in the same encounter? Just wondering around

[@francinejones2524]

Same

[@NikkiRN-CLC]

I was just thinking that!

[@TiffanyG8675309]

I'm glad you finally realized that this was Zekes channel and he just let's you run it. 😂

[@raptor_redd]

Cat stories are always welcome. And, fun fact, adopting kittens in pairs is way better for their behavior towards their humans and their social development towards other cats. Having a playmate who bites back when they bite too hard is great for helping them learn self-restraint. 😂

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

The last time I had cats (way back as a teenager), I got a kitten for my birthday and about two weeks later, we got an older cat (older than the kitten by probably...8 to 10 months? Sugar, the older cat, was certainly no older than a year old). Spicy, my kitten, hissed at Sugar when she appeared. We didn't separate them and introduce them slowly because we didn't even know about doing that. But also, Sugar was chill. She took all of Spicy's hissing as she calmly drank from her bowl. But then, I suppose Sugar finally had enough and hissed one good time back at Spicy. Spicy shut up immediately. Sugar resumed being chill and Spicy continued to want her attention. I think by that very evening, they were crashing off the walls playing tag, already best friends 😂

[@dominiquenicole6266]

Two kittens are always better than one! ❤️

[@paigenelson7351]

I totally agree I got my cats from the same litter, let’s just say they’re both super cuddly, playful and vocal. They’re judgy and know how to share their opinions.

[@lisa._.the._.lovely]

I bought two kittens, both brothers from the same litter, as a pair aND *I VOUCH THAT YOU'RE RIGHT;* as compared to my single kitten-to-cat growing up-they had individual personalities, got along together and with other animals, I could go on...😅😻😸

[@ameliadavidson360]

Not only do we get another Hannah video, but it's a horror stories one, and we even get a happy kitten adoption story! Who could ask for more??

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

I wonder if she had two accounts to allow her to still message people if she was blocked on one of them. If that is the case, if you are annoying someone enough that they block you, do you really think messaging them on another account will make them think "hang on, this opportunity IS starting to sound real good..."

[@Mama_Bear524]

The delusion is real with them

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

This is also what I was thinking.

[@bonniwashington7111]

Sometimes also in case one account gets banned they have a backup

[@arh1234]

I think there is also a daily message/friend request limit to prevent spam, and this is the work-around.

[@NeurodiverJENNt]

@@arh1234 this is a very plausible explanation!

[@MCheekyBrunette]

Hannah, I moved to South Korea last year, and your videos really help with the loneliness as I try to make friends. Thank you for the consistency!

[@nevergiveup517]

Like

[@maymorning8504]

Love the cat adoption story!! My husband and I planned to adopt two kittens….and then we found a bonded trio of sisters who were not very adoptable because who would want three kittens at once? We knew we had to have them. Best decision ever - we love them so much!

[@nevergiveup517]

Really?

[@BedeSisters]

“Performative friendship photos” is *chef’s kiss* A perfect description

[@annea.4173]

That story and that particular description of what the writer was seeing at the retreat definitely made me sit back and think hard about some of the "friendship" pictures and highlight reels I've seen of different social media personalities when they get together with others in their "genre."

[@Rabbitmancer]

Current mood: pausing an old Hannah video to watch the new Hannah video.

[@grapesofphoenix]

Lol fell asleep for a nap to a Hannah vid from a year ago and woke up to a new one, score! Making Monday more tolerable 😂

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

I love it when that happens 😂

[@LindzKayK]

Yea it's definitely not normal to be forced to share a bed with a stranger on a work trip 😅 I worked for a travel agency for a number of years and they had a managers meeting/leadership conference every year that I went to 3 times. It was in Las Vegas, Cancun, and Austin the years I went. We did get put in a room with another colleague, however this was a large hotel room in a luxury hotel where everyone got their own queen or king size bed. They also paid for all of the flights, hotels, meals, activities, and even some of the liquor for our after hours hangouts. If I had to spend $1000 to go on these trips or share a bed with a stranger, I would have politely declined 😂

[@jadadallas5891]

Zeke's appearances are top tier KZbin content imo. ❤ Glad AJ won. All the love to Zeke, Cooper, you, AJ, and the baby girl.

[@verminter]

I want someone to do a bait and switch How to Succeed in Social Selling masterclass where they tell hard truths. Just like, first thing out of their mouth should be, "It's already saturated. Your upline pushes you so hard because YOU are how THEY make their money."

[@petewhite3844]

Or how to succeed in social selling -- step 1: forget the products and recruitment and focus on making classes like these. 😂

[@somethingsomethingfire]

I remember Jessica Hickson said before how Instagram will block you from messaging if you send too many in an hour, so that's likely why she had two accounts.

[@rebeccah3715]

I am sure this is the reason. Consultants with Paparazzi did this as well with Facebook. They would post too much or violate some sort of FB rule and get put in Facebook "jail" and have their account frozen for a few days. So they'd have to create another profile in order to continue to work their business.

[@EntonaNurra]

It is also for when their Contacts block them personally! Having 2+ accounts allow you to circumnavigate personal blocks. I know I'll block any 'hey hun' message instantly.

[@raychul33]

Exactly this

[@timriehl1500]

I am shocked that YL payment scheme is legal. How can someone's paycheck on commissions be withheld unless they also have a certain amount in purchases? I would be a nightmare recruit because I'd be complaining all the time! And I also adopted two male kittens from the same litter when I really only wanted the gray fluffy one. But so glad I also took in the skinny orange one, because his personality is just TOO MUCH, lol. Orange kitties are so extra, lol.

[@aurorabrooks3000]

I don't normally comment but I LOVED the extra long story of the Vancouver Island excursion! Kudos to that viewer who gave you that A+ content!

[@missionfoodfreedom6464]

I bet they went to Tofino hahahaha

[@TheLondonLass]

I used to work in central London and it was fascinating watching influencers doing their thing. I was once in a posh department store and I was in the section where they had the furniture set out like little rooms. A woman came in and took some sort of drink, books and other props out of her bag. She set them out in one of these ‘rooms’ and then got her friend to take lots of photos of her sitting there nonchalantly pretending to read her book and sip her drink. I assume she was trying to promote the drink and might have been a hun pretending it was her house!

[@lbh4113]

😅is that “opportunistic staging”? I mean, it works, I guess! Like this be my living room yo…!

[@alexandrawilson-hodge2974]

My story for today: went to a cafe to do an online exam yesterday and saw a little girl with her mother, wearing an Arbonne scarf. Gave me flashbacks to being the daughter of an Arbonne rep.

[@isabelaandzico]

I really appreciate your covering Arbonne. During the pandemic, I was at my most vulnerable: trying to survive in an ab*sive relationship, trying to make money to leave said ab*ser. I’m the kind of person who rarely asks for help but I was at rock bottom and finally got the courage to reach out even if for just a word of encouragement. I realized I had no real friends as no one even texted me back. It was heartbreaking. An old “friend”/ Arbonne hun enters the chat and pitches me hard. I hadn’t the knowledge back then that I have now thanks to your channel. Once the hun realized I didn’t have money to “invest in my financial freedom”, she disappeared 👻 The more I watch your videos the more I realized how predatory and heartless my ex friend was… I haven’t talked to her since but I’ll be sending this video to her.

[@larissabrglum3856]

I've heard from ex-Jehovah's Witnesses that the religion expects people to adopt a "new personality," which sounds curiously similar to how MLMs encourage people to act unnaturally.

[@myheartismadeofstars]

MLMs, Cults? Same thing.

[@sandramendoza3302]

@@myheartismadeofstarsJW is definitely a cult. I have family that are JW & it’s definitely a little crazy.

[@Doesntmatter20]

As an active Jehovah witness I can tell you that a new personality requirement is indeed a biblical thing. Check out Ephesians 4:24! It is to unlearn our human nature that lies, steals, manipulates, hates etc. Just listened to Hanna’s video about the Mormons and wanted to comment about how strict and unreasonable they were “sounding”. I did not react at the end as just as they tell, a million lies about us, who can verify the story about the Mormons? I am from Belgium so I do not know their new name sorry 😅

[@arowace498]

​@@Doesntmatter20 jehovas witnesses < Mormons < non cults

[@Danlou18]

@@Doesntmatter20😂😂

[@marienyb.]

Little story time .. I recently joined a Pilates class first week cool.. second week fine… third week I discovered the studio sells Dotera products, my instructor sells Seint and I think a few of the women taking the class are reps .. I was trying to check in last Wednesday and an older women came out and started to pump (dotera) pain relief lotion in front of me telling me it was so good before the class i immediately walked away 😂 I really hope no one try’s to pitch me I just wanted this 1 hr of me time to be peaceful

[@NurseEthel]

I would complain to the management of the gym/studio but if they're all "reps" it might be better to find another studio.

[@marienyb.]

@@NurseEthel sadly I think they’re aware, and the next closest Pilates studio is 45 mins away. I’ve steered away from speaking to anyone and that’s been working. But sad to think if anyone else has fallen into that trap

[@hailbones666]

Essential Oils: 🙄🫥🤮 Essential Zeke: 🐈‍⬛😻🥰

[@reidleblanc3140]

Can you even IMAGINE trying to tell the top earners/employees of a real company that they have to share a room at a conference? My dad has worked at the top of his company with the same few people for nearly 20 years and he would still NEVER share a room with one of them. It would be the biggest scandal in the uni’s department lol.

[@xladycaosx]

even when I was a poor doctoral student with only a mini grant for conferences, it was still enough to squeeze in a single room😂

[@kirielbranson4843]

I have worked big tech for 30 years and they would never ask us to share rooms. My husband worked big farming/irrigation and they did. They managed stores but still made them share. I thought it was weird. He didn't think it was weird but didn't like it. So it does depend on the company. And maybe the positions.

[@SSDeven]

That’s very risky behavior. Not to mention cheap.

[@tabbyhankell9584]

I love Hannah's kitty adoption story - its a lot like mine! My husband knew I wanted to adopt a cat, so he brought home a litter of 5 kittens as a "temporary foster" situation (they were born in a co-worker's garage, and the coworker needed someone to take care of them while his family was on a weekend vacation). Well, I instantly fell in love with "Jack", who cried until I picked him up, then fell asleep in my hands. My husband fell in love with "Simba", who crawled up his shirt onto his shoulder and hung out there like he was standing on Pride Rock. We argued for quite a while about which one to keep, and finally just decided to keep both. They're nearly identical physically, but very different personalities and I love them both ❤

[@ering2467]

My youngest cried in a Petsmart until I called my husband to ask if we could get her. We ended up getting her and I’m so glad we did. We have since adopted 5 more cats.

[@Justkelseyagain]

Almost 100k subs and 200 anti MLM videos?! Way to go, Hannah! 🎉

[@businessacc179]

5 months later and she is at 208K!! 👏🏻

[@sarahsj8109]

Well we are in our 20s-30s and realizing we're never going to get a retirement too. Unfortunately these MLMs look more appealing when regular employment sucks too. Companies today also feel that they owe you nothing.

[@stephaniehuthmacher4214]

So MLMs offer you what, then?? Work your regular job and invest whatever money you can. I'm 70 and never worked a high-paying job with a pension, but I am comfortable in retirement. Never lived beyond my means and still don't. These MLMs, Ponzi schemes, are not the way to a happy future.

[@erinbessler3880]

As I was watching this, I was attending to my toddlers snack requests and forgot to pause it when I walked into the next room. I missed part of the video due to my little ones chatter. Then I heard what sounded like an mlm video promising that people can skip the hard part and get right making money if they just buy a training session. I assumed I had missed what you had said and it was a clip you were responding to but when I got back to my phone realized it was a beach body ad playing on your video. I’m so glad these ads are showing up in your channel because this is the perfect audience to ignore their shady tactics. I thought it was interesting and had to share.

[@stuartstone6359]

That line in the first story don't "put it in your bio" is the exact opposite of every sales job I've ever had. They want you putting it there so if they do want to buy they know to contact you. Infaxt most places I've sold has offered bonuses based on external leads I could create outside of their own systems. Major red flag when they say don't put it there shows how bad the rep is in fact I've refused a selling job because after the interview I had a bad feeling about the company so looked up some the people who did the interview and their SM showed them as no job

[@mikesanders8621]

My father asked me last night why I would bother watching videos about MLMs when I would never fall for the scam. My response was "because people are fascinating". All I got was side eye.

[@TheFineArtisan]

I would assume that people in MLMs have 2 account just incase one gets banned from violating instagrams guidelines. Possibly for sending too many messages.

[@Lucyballet1994]

That’s what I also came to say, they can avoid being put in instagram jail for sending too many cold messages at once

[@hollyjean237]

The story about the Arbonne retreat is hilarious. I live in Vancouver, B.C. and have been to Vancouver Island countless times. Arbonne is definitely big here. I'm a teacher and see coworkers using their products constantly.

[@ae6888]

I made the mistake of looking at the influencers in the wild Instagram account that you mentioned in this video. I have no faith in humanity’s survival at this point.

[@sweberrrr]

“Huns on a cliff” that sentence made me laugh so hard! I just discovered your channel and I’ve been binge watching your videos, love them 🥰❤

[@adriannalatta5928]

We love to hear about your cats! I just got a kitten last month, and my husband is already saying he wants another one😅

[@fleabitz1474]

Since you won't have a bonded pair, try to get a male cat for the second one. Male cats are more mellow (after they are spayed) and will pair well with another male or a female. Two females will have the more difficult time bonding because females are very territorial. There are exceptions to this rule of course but it's a good general guideline.

[@emyyyxx]

@@fleabitz1474this is true from my experience our boy and girl love each other sm, got along quickly

[@kirielbranson4843]

I don't think you were clear that only 200 people have reached that rank plus 155 retired ones. That means that right now, only 355 people out of all their living and retired workers are eligible or receiving this. Of course their may have been some who died but for a current number of how many can receive retirement that is crazy. Out of 2.4 MILLION current consultants only 200 are eligible for retirement plans.

[@marinaoc7147]

That’s a staggering statistic! It shows how many people get scammed when they buy into MLM brainwashing.

[@lisahance]

That Young Living story was such a great example of why people shouldn't join an MLM. I loved hearing the Zeke & Cooper origin story 😺😺

[@isirlasplace91]

35:40 The company calls it "buying back the business", so essentially they take the last 5 years of one's national area production/commissions and then picks the best 3 years and 60% of that amount is what's paid out to retired nationals for 15 years. I was with them for waaaaaay longer than I'd care to say. But I'm here to help me de-program from all the harm they did to my psyche and self esteem!!

[@X_O_A_N_O_N]

The Zeke story made me tear up! I also have a pair of bonded brothers, I can't imagine them ever being separated . I love the Zeke appearances, and super love the ultra rare Cooper appearances! ❤❤

[@ericaerica8031]

I have a friend in YL (we actually had a falling out a few years ago) and I’ve often wondered about her rank in the company. It makes me sad that she’s probably still working very hard for almost no return.

[@shinystar1781]

your husband knew how important zeke would be to your career😊

[@jillmeltzer2377]

I love that you got Zeke on a BOGO! That’s gotta be my favorite story!

[@mollynorth6316]

Not about MLMs but I also was someone who just wanted one cat and ended up adopting two little girlies from the same litter and it was the best decision I ever made 🥰

[@commonlymisunderstood]

YAY!! I love Hannah Mondays!! Your voice is so soothing and videos so educational!! I got caught by a couple mlm’s a while back and have thought about sharing, but struggle to put my thoughts into words that others can follow lol. Any who love your videos!! Happy Monday 💕

[@geslinam9703]

My MLM horror story is about my MLM friend when I was younger. Not only was it annoying and embarrassing to go anywhere with her, because no one was safe from the “business opportunity” spiel, but I watched her slowly lose everything she had. Her house, her car, EVERYTHING. She was out on the street…though she could have built herself a little cabin by stacking the hundreds of boxes of Amway products she had. She wound up becoming a stripper, but couldn’t even hold on to those jobs, the guys at the bars she worked complained about her badgering them to sign up with her while she went around collecting tips after her dance. Even after her life/finances had been destroyed, she still believed in all that BS. I eventually cut ties with her, just couldn’t take it anymore.

[@molly-kl7pi]

The retirement story is heartbreaking. I can’t imagine devoting that much time and work just to not be offered anything from the company. Like I literally am going to have retirement money from a crappy part-time fast food job I worked in college years ago, but these MLM people get nothing.

[@elis5893]

We also got our second cat as BOGO deal - Cookie did choose us basically, and we were promised Mr. Benji is bonded with Cookie but rather asocial with people, so we won't even know about him we just need to feed him. Two years later he is the cuddliest boy that sleeps on me every night.

[@Sundwy]

Just welcomed our new baby this month and I'm currently up late pumping. It's so nice to sit down with your videos and take a little breather. Love the story about Zeke. How awesome!

[@boshowa0840]

Imagine working for an mlm for more than 5 years and then it goes under. Now you have to explain to a future employer why you weren't working during that time, since from my understandibg most jobs don't consider an mlm an actual place of employement.

[@christiemcbaine2805]

So not on topic but I just have to interject. I LOVE that you and the author of your first letter have adopted cats. We are a two cat family which means, of course, we have three cats. When our third cat “found me” at a shelter there was no way we were going to adopt him. The next day I was calling the shelter. I convinced my husband we would “try him out”. I even had people lined up in case it didn’t work out. After two days of my big furry boy on my lap, chest , head, I approached my husband with Lance (cat) in my arms and announced to him that “you can NOT make me give up MY cat!” 😂

[@laurieg2436]

Love the story of the stalker of the Arbonne retreat ! She’s my kind of gal!! Love hearing these MLM stories.

[@BettyBarnyard]

The "coaching" and "courses" scams have BLOWN UP. Even outside mlms, would love to see a video on this! They're language is often so manipulative and they prey on vulnerability

[@jaydearly7367]

I also am the owner of two cats, one of whom was free! I didn't get my cats at the same time (and in fact there was no intention for me to end up with any cats at all) but my ex partner adopted a lovely bundle of black fuzz from the shelter they'd named 'Trouble'. He was from a cat hoard of 22 and he had been returned so many times they were like 'this one is free'. I will never forget the site of the lady struggling to carry the box with him down the hallway as he pushed himself out through the small center opening and scrabbled for freedom like a deranged muppet. He only occasionally lives up to his name, more so when he feels like his person (he only truly likes one at a time) needs to pay him some attention. Not smart, but clever, he learned to steal my ex's key caps and where to sit on her computer tower to shut it off so he could have some dedicated time after she came home from work. Eventually my ex moved across the country and decided not to take Trouble with her, so I kept him and while he still tries to rescue me out of the shower and can be a handful I love him deeply.

[@wickedcatcandles2911]

Yes! Now my week can start! I love how the cats came into your life. I only wanted 1 cat too. Now I have 5 and a 55 lb staffy

[@TM-nb9zf]

I remember when i was about 19 years old a lady came out to me telling my how pretty i was and asking me what products i use.... I was soooo happy to get that kind of compliment during those years. I was very awkward and coming into womanhood. But after she gave me a card and invited me to a "make up " party. I snapped outta it 😂.... I knew what the deal was

[@karenadams882]

I always heard that it was better to get 2 cats at one time, I wasn’t convinced. In reality I am more of a dog person, but am not in a place to take on a dog, so I got a cat, a little more than 3 years ago. He has always been very needy, although affectionate. It was hard on him when I left him even for a day. I have friend who needed someone to foster her kitty Sue to her health. Well Sophie has been with us for a little more than a month. She is the sweetest thing, and when her Mama asked if I would keep her I didn’t even need to think about! So now my Rusty has a companion and is so much better of a cat.

[@ATris2010]

I heard you say in another video that said they wanted to hear "no" 7 times, if anyone tries to rope me in, I'm sending a "no" message 7 times. If they ask in person, I will say "no" counting to 7! lol

[@tinamartens103]

When I was duped into an MLM we were encouraged to have multiple online accounts just in case one gets shut down by being reported too many times, so we wouldn't have to restart our social presence.

[@susanclark8762]

And just like THAT... 48 minutes have FLOWN BY. Great content. Bravo. I am a new content creator on another account and its freaking hard to do this. You are a natural!

[@naeshelle]

Yeah, stalking MLM huns crosses a line for me, period.

[@happymelodieart]

About the 2 accounts question, could it be one account for selling and promoting the prodcuts and then another one for recruiting?

[@ladymsoaps]

We love our kitties! We have three and in July when I came home with our sweet baby Nyx, my husband didn’t know I was getting another cat. I got home and he looked and said when do you take her back 😂 she along with the other two girls have him wrapped around their paws and he will go out of his way to make sure those sweet kitties have whatever their heart desires

[@christinegunzelmanatt1674]

I’ve traveled for work many times and with different companies. It has NEVER been asked that I share a room with someone. Especially not a stranger. Even with separate beds. My only knowledge of people sharing rooms for business are during canceled flights/booked out hotels/only one room available last minute situations. It’s way too much liability for a business to expect strangers to share what is typically a “private” space.

[@partlycloudy7707]

When I was a kid, we got two kittens who were sisters, and it's one of the best things we ever did. It was the same deal as Zeke and Cooper, last two of a litter, but the shelter wouldn't let one go without the other. They are great cats, but sadly one died years ago. I still have the other sibling, and she's a grumpy old fart but a sweet cat. Always get siblings if you can, it's fantastic

[@lokesia]

Facebook and Instagram mark you as spam if you send too much in 1 day or even a week and then you are completely blocked from the messaging function for a period. this is probably the reason for 2 accounts

[@anagissel85]

story 1 makes me feel like I'm in mean girls club, stalking and hating on others 😖

[@mightyrachel1]

That retreat story was so good! Love the more unique ones!

[@jamiemiesler322]

I’m not “a cat person”😂but only because I’m allergic. I love your cats & I love when Zeek is a complete nuisance 😂 What a personality. Oh! And I love your videos of course.

[@leahlewandowski6194]

I am so here for the gossip!!! I love these stories so much as I have had about 4 or 5 encounters of MLM’s

[@reginalorca3215]

I also have 2 cats, they're siblings. The female is quiet, sweet and does her thing and the male is needy and loud and always hungry. I love them so much omg! I love the hun stalker! That would be me 100%

[@missytuffet]

I also have a rescue pet (a bunny) I fell in love with on first sight in person. It was two months after my first bunny I'd had for a decade died, and I had a bunny sized hole in my life, so I went to the shelter, looked in the bunny room and melted at the tiny face staring out saying 'get me out of here'.

[@danacapodarco1363]

My sister in law got a bogo on her kittens. They were sisters, and we joke that the one she picked out was her pet and the other was the cat’s cat.

[@samanthadelahunt3698]

I just got a new coworker who's also in Amway. And he's one of the sales associates. And we sell jewelry. I don't think he's gonna stay in Amway once he realizes how easy it is to make money at a real sales job

[@purrmanum]

as long as he doesn’t get fired for trying to also sell scamway to your customers 😬

[@meganrae2508]

Literally the only reason I post about my work trips is I’m in the travel industry so the point is to share the locations 😂 But when I worked in corporate or a non profit, it never occurred to me to do that with any trips I was sent on.

[@luster8105]

At around 9:40 they do the buy one get one free at some shelters for bonded pairs! Cats/dogs that can NOT be separated because they are extremely close and separating them would be AWFUL for them mentally. It’s how my sister got her cats Tig and Clay, who are father and son!

[@truecrimejunkie4]

I remember the Mary Kay "retirement program." Sadly, both my old Director and her Sr Director have been in MK for YEARS and neither is even close to National Sales Director and both are approaching 65. So sad they've wasted all of these years!

[@lindadavenport8235]

Talk about an MLM nightmare, my MK won a trip to another country, can't remember where. But they were there on 911. So they were not allowed to come home!!! NO flights in or out of the country. The next morning MK arranged for a boat to take them across the water to another country. She was stuck over there a long time!

[@Kristemamber81]

A very close friend of mine bought so much YL under her own name and her family's accounts under her, that she earned a trip to Hawaii about 3 years ago. She has SO much "stock" and a tiny handful of customers. She doesnt sell YL anmore because if drama within the company apparently. She is now into Amare (sp?). The one that promotes "happy juice "

[@Gurkhyvel]

The detective work on the second story, we salute you ma’am

[@hailyjohnson407]

My guess for two MLM Instagram accounts is so they can keep messaging beyond the daily limit (Instagram flags your account as potential spam if you follow too many people or send too many messages in a short period of time).

[@sydneyelephants]

LMAO JUST GOING IN AND WATCHING THEM LIKE ITS A ZOO IS SO FUNNNYYY

[@dawntreader2420]

I love that you got MLM'd into getting your second cat. Bahaha!

[@anitamiko9975]

I love your sharp introspection on that Arbonne retreat story. I also love the effort and perspective of the author. And I’m new here but chuckle a bit every time I hear you all refer to them as “huns” 😆 Also appreciate the other stories. Especially the sincere Youngliving one.

[@nataliamartin6411]

The multiple accounts thing... I heard it's to have backup accounts in case they get into Facebook jail, or some equivalent for that platform, for spamming and/or violating community guidelines.

[@piningforfjords]

My cats were BOGO, too! My friend's cat had kittens and I laid claim to the beautiful little calico-- I knew I wanted 2 because they do better when pair bonded, so I asked my friend whether I could get another one. My boy kitty was the only one left, and now he and I are soulmates. The calico girly is very loving and cuddly but only on her terms; whereas my boy cat will come to me when I ask him if he wants to take a nap together 🥲

[@0hkjnn]

Idk, I think that if you're on a MLM work trip and you get Instagram stalked and photographed without your consent, you're a victim of more than an MLM.

[@niceice07]

love love love the Zeke and Cooper origin story💗💗💗

[@yolandaponkers1581]

This is why you’re my favorite anti-MLM creator. You ALWAYS make it a point to humanize the victims of these schemes. You never make fun, you never judge, and you always encourage viewers to display grace towards these people. Thank you so much for that! You’re the absolute best!

[@ccww7528]

i think the people caught up in these schemes appear to be inherently respectful, kind, and friendly because they represent some of the most vulnerable or naive parts of society. You can’t rope somebody into a pyramid scheme if they are naturally critical, judgmental, and pessimistically discerning. Those simply are not the people you are going to drag into a scheme. I realize that’s a negative outlook but I wonder if there is some truth to it. Gullible people tend to be “nice” people.

[@lisajohnson4744]

Or “nice” people have a tendency to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. The companies know what to look for!

[@czechbox11]

Oh my gosh, I loved the kitten adoption story ❤❤

[@suskiaaa]

I was approached so many times in 2015/2016 to join a legging mlm and a couple others (makeup/oils/cookware) but thankfully I was too broke to buy in and hated everything they offered.

[@petiemartinez3522]

in terms of two accounts, so many of these huns message so many people that instagram itself locks the account for 24 hours, so in order to keep working it would make sense to have an identical back up account, and in that case, they'd probably have no regard for if they've double messaged if youre sending to so many people instagram physically stops you

[@theloverlyladylo9158]

I had a cat soulmate moment with my childhood cat, Tiger… to my parents consternation, because he was a wild little demon kitten. But they knew that it would break my heart in a truly unforgivable way to say no, especially because he was crazy to everyone else but an absolute sweetie to me. So they got the manic kitten, and he ended up calming down significantly after a few months. He was even our primary lap cat/sick cat. I still miss him.

[@HeyHonHorror]

You get multiple accounts because you can only send so many unsolicited messages in a specific time period. I didn't do Insta when I was in Amway, but I did hit the limit on Facebook once. I never got a second account but I know people did. Also some social platforms allow "report spam" and too many of those will suspend an account. Instead of waiting for the "pause" to be removed, some would create a new one.

[@StingRaeTheSingingSiren]

Older video I know, and not MLM related BUT as a cat mama to 2 rescued siblings, I had a similar experience. Only the female showed up at our door and her brother was found in a tree by our neighbor bordering our properties. I was hesitant about taking the female but she completely stole my heart that first night so color me surprised when two neighbors show up just as we’re about to head to the vet with her “twin” asking if it’s ours and then being guilted into taking him too… At first I agreed to take both to the vet but asked the neighbors to ask around in case anyone else wanted to adopt the male, simply because I wasn’t sure I was anted to take on 2 cats plus a dog (who sadly passed away soon after) and a toddler. Well, he worked his way into my heart as well and 4 years later, they’re both my babies. Twins no longer as the male grew to be 3 times larger than his sister and she required a leg amputation but keeps up with him nonetheless. She’s still the more cuddly one who wants nothing more than to be loved while he’s a bit of a troublemaker but they’re very sweet to each other and us and we couldn’t imagine our lives without them. They absolutely love getting into videos as well, the male even likes watching a bit of tv lol! He will sit in my son’s chair like a little kid and watch certain shows with comical interest.

[@callmelittled]

I, regrettably, was an it works girl for a few years, but the cold messaging, etc always felt icky to me so I never did that. I did like some of the products, but I eventually realized they weren't enough for me to keep spending what I was spending.

[@bjgoels]

This is so sadly interesting since I have been involved in many different pyramid schemes or MLMs in my life since the 1070s. I related a lot to the first story, Young Living I believe, in which the seller felt like such a failure. Most of my experiences were prior to personal computers and long before social media but one thing that was consistent in all of them was that when representatives didn't perform well, they were told they were failures because they weren't dedicated to the job. Too bad I hadn't heard these types of stories a long, long time ago. I might have saved myself a lot of money and a ton of heartache.

[@msdixieblues]

Several years ago, I tried Optavia as a diet and it worked. Lost 15 pounds in 4 months. Fell for being a coach a year later due to my second job loss. Being a coach was so cringe and I hated posting to FB platitudes, asking open ended questions and references about weight. Stopped coaching a year after that and only had two clients. But I am still mystified about how those coaches made the big bucks and would find clients. I did everything right and did not get clients. Any MLM is not for the faint of heart

[@necroticboop]

I was catching up on episodes, not fully listening when I hear Vancouver Island! I didn't even know we had Arbonne salespeople in the area. Lots of Pampered Chef and Epicure, but apparently I've thus far dodged the worst of it. Yeesh! Love your content, Hannah! ♥️