Hardest Decision In Trucks Right Now 2024 Ranger Raptor Or 2024 Colorado ZR2- What Would You Choose?

Hardest Decision In Trucks Right Now 2024 Ranger Raptor Or 2024 Colorado ZR2- What Would You Choose?
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[@mikesuahtla9826]

The engineering of the ford is much better. The chases is double the strength on the ford for a start and accounts for most of its extra weight. The performance speed wise is much better in the ford as well. Ride comfort in the Ford is also class leading.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Sounds like it was an easy choice for you

[@outlawedmedia4336]

I've owned lots of fords over the years. 2014 Mustang, 2020 F-150, 2023 Bronco. Also own a silverado, I'd argue ford engineering isn't any better than GM.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@outlawedmedia4336 yep I agree thry are all engineered and bult with the same quality of parts today. The important part is the customer service

[@outlawedmedia4336]

@@SamkoWorkShop Yeah, my comment wasn't to put down Ford engineering. Ford has really good engineering! But so does GM. lol

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@outlawedmedia4336 agree 100%. I'm not putting any down either.

[@MayorMcCheese78]

Take the ZR2. Better deal, save money and look so much better

[@SamkoWorkShop]

The zr2 would be my choice too

[@Mortalcoil100]

excellent video

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it

[@SoCalMikey]

Thanks for the very fair and thorough review. I contacted my local dealer on a Raptor they had online (on the way) and told them I would be interested in it but only at or below sticker. Their response was interesting: “Only way I may do that is in person. When should I expect you to come in?”

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Might be worth the trip to see what he says. But most likely he says that so you get invested time wise and then he can make you want it so much and convince you that it's the only one that's coming etc. To get you to pay the mark up. Everything a sales guy does is to get you invested, make it an emotional buy and convince you it's this one or nothing.

[@YouMediv]

Another point is Ranger doesn't have ventilated seats but ZR2 does

[@SamkoWorkShop]

That is a great feature

[@casper24ism]

Lol first off thats an option on the zr2.second who gives a shit about ventilated seats the raptor seats are 10x more comfortable lol

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

Raptor only because of the v6 power plant

[@SamkoWorkShop]

V6 sure is nice!

[@kevinlandry4054]

Tried both. Purchased the Raptor and have had it for one week so far. The performance and responsiveness of the Raptor is WAY better. However, kudos to Chevy, I love the ecstatic's of the ZR2 better. But for 98% driving on road, I had to go with what was more fun to drive.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Great choice on an amazing truck. Congratulations.

[@is6566]

“Base” Bison for $60k because of the protective skid plates and bumpers.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

And got to love the 35s!

[@Jamesthor]

@@SamkoWorkShop if you pay $11,000 for steel bumpers and a skid plate, then you fall into the category of high have more money than I have common sense. I was absolutely confused when building a ZR2 and I had an option for skid plates. WTF? You’re dedicated off-road entry competing with the raptor and Trd Pro doesn’t come with skid plates? Who are the people that would buy this truck and pay 11 grand to get a logical option that should’ve been included with the model and type from the get? You truck folks are weird.

[@BX_Staff-Home]

I bought a New leftover I found in late January in NC, SR5 2023 4x4 V6 Tacoma. Me happy!! Sticker 42 got for 39

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Outstanding and great price on a great truck!

[@marklihsu]

Doesn't belong in this class of truck

[@macjones-wn5xl]

@@marklihsu True, but I do not need that kind of power. I get it though.

[@billytaglis3586]

This is about the most honest review I've come across... I can't wait till you actually get in a raptor and try it out and let us know what you think... I recently bought the ZR2 and I like it a lot although I I do have a problem with some weird noise coming from under the passenger wheel well hopefully that'll get resolved soon but other than that I really enjoy the truck

[@SamkoWorkShop]

That zr2 is so amazing! You will love it. And all new trucks will have issue like that today. But gm warranty is top shelf and they will get it sorted for you.

[@jimmycline4778]

One thing IS for sure and that’s that the Colorado ZR2 looks a lot better especially the blue one!!

[@SamkoWorkShop]

The blue and rhe sand colors are my favorite. Such an amazing truck

[@RobsKoiPond]

I have the ZR2. Love the truck.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Such an amazing truck!

[@Subzro01]

Easy pick for me......ZR2 Bison on order.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Congratulations on such an amazing truck!

[@is6566]

Do you know how long your wait time will be? I am thinking of getting one myself too.

[@jaredmeche6325]

Saw somewhere Ranger Raptor is #1 on the enthusiast markups at up to $30k. In the next year, I'd put money you'd find a Bison at $60k long before a Ranger Raptor at same price.

[@keithhunt3437]

Got my RR at 2500 over.

[@jaredmeche6325]

@@keithhunt3437 that’s incredible

[@keithhunt3437]

@@jaredmeche6325yea I was expecting like 5 or more they 2500 and I jumped on it

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Thay is a very solid point! Should be illegal for dealers to do adms. It's illegal in Canada

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@keithhunt3437 congratulations on a beautiful truck and a not to crazy mark up

[@wk2_white_shadow827]

ZR2 Bison for me can't wait

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Amazing truck! Congratulations

[@markkilpatrick7951]

Wouldn’t the Bison compared to the Ranger Raptor be a more even comparison?

[@SamkoWorkShop]

I don't think the raptor can compete with the 35s on the bison. Another inch of clearance and improved off road angles as well as the traction from the 35s. Since both the zr2 and the raptor have 33s same angles and double lockers I think they are a very fair comparison. The bison would be a step above

[@KainSwiss]

The Raptor in Australia has 395hp with 583nm torque - 35's fit the Raptor also. The Colorado is a nice truck. And a good option against the Raptor for sure. Real buttons vs touch screen nonsense? totally agree. New Raptor smokes the old Raptor. It's not even close.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

So happy to hear the 35s fit on the ranger without much fuss. Thats a very big deal in my opinion on a truck like this.

[@is6566]

Supposedly the ZR2 rocksliders (although they are body mounted) capable of supporting the whole weight of the truck. If that’s true (please, confirm if you can) then you should be able to lift the truck via the rocksliders to change tires etc.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

I cannot confirm not sure if you can lift the weight of the vehicle by the sliders or not. But if they are body-mounted I would not try lifting the truck from them personally. I do believe they will hold up really well to off-road use and we get them as part of the package unlike the Raptor where you would have to spend $1,700 bucks to get sliders for it.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@itsallminor6133 your last 10 comments have been pretty harsh. Not sure what's going on, but time to be a little nicer about it please.

[@BayouToad]

Ranger Raptor is much quicker, adding to the fun level. Like them both!

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yep ranger hp is very impressive

[@RCian2000]

The ZR2 is just as if not more capable off roading and a better daily. Also The Raptor is outclassed by the Bison in terms of equipment.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

And the gm has the upper hand on both sides of the price. The zr2 is 8 cheaper that raptor and the bison only 3k more than the raptor.

[@DougVandegrift]

My dealer said they're only getting two raptors allocated for the 2024 calendar year. And since they have over 20 orders they are charging $5K for those first orders due to supply and demand. And if the order owner doesn't want it then the dealer will sell the raptor for $10k markup. So if I wanted a raptor I'd probably wait up to 3-4 years to get one without paying the $5K markup. The ZR2 I could order and buy right now and have it built and delivered within three-four months for MSRP including some discounts. So for me, the ZR2 makes most sense.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yep that's what I expected to see happening. Stupid ford games

[@Vec135]

Easy. ZR2. In most cases it’s $10k to 20k cheaper depending on markup. ZR2s can be picked up for MSRP around me

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yep I can get a zr2 for upper 40s. Big difference vs the ranger raptor

[@marklihsu]

And that's going to help maintain resale?

[@Torch4Life]

esp if paying cash, AT4X, For the white interior 😍 (as opposed to in spite of)

[@Torch4Life]

Sum of pmts on the cheapest base w/ 2wd will be higher than a loaded X for cash. I'd advise if not new for cash, then used for cash & if one has to borrow, buy as cheap as possible, avoiding money pits. Just my 2c.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

That at4x is the best looking midsize available in my opinion. And great point about the crazy interest rates.

[@kevinhagen3231]

I’m going back and forth between them too. Tough choice.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Sure is a tough choice! It would boil down to the most money off msrp I could get that would seal the deal for me

[@marklihsu]

Raptor will be more rare

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@marklihsu in the beginning yes. But if ford does the ranger like they do the 150 raptor there will be some on every lot in a year or 2

[@jakeackerly5305]

Just went down this road myself. Talked to both dealers I wanted the ford but every dealer I talked to had a 15k-20k mark up that not worth it. That’s coming for someone who has the ford svt raptor . I went with the zr2 waiting for pick up in a couple weeks. Saved 20+k if I lived in the desert I might change my mind but the zr2 is a more capable overlanding and raptor is more capable in flatter terrain. Both good tucks but price nowadays is a big factor.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Congratulations on such a fantastic truck. I'd buy the zr2 as well because of the capability and price. And ford motor company upsets me alot with how they are now. I'd still buy one but really not happy with them at all.

[@billytaglis3586]

The dealers are marking up the ZR2s pretty heavy as well.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@billytaglis3586 some dealers are in some regions. But not hard to find dealers that are not. Just might have to drive a bit to get to them.

[@lgbnz]

I just ordered a ZR2 at $750 under. 2 other dealers offered MSRP, 1 wanted $2k ADM. You can definitely find a ZR2 at MSRP or less

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@lgbnz congratulations on such an amazing truck!

[@GC-ti1vz]

I’m going raptor because I think it’s going to be a better street performabce vehicle which is mostly where Would be using it

[@SamkoWorkShop]

That makes perfect sense and it's such a great truck

[@davida8052]

LOL I saw one yesterday advertised with a $25k ADM to $83K. Crazy

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Crazy times! Someone will pay it😂😂

[@H0CKEY604]

And the Looks “ZR2 “ 🤘🏼😃

[@SamkoWorkShop]

The zr2 sure is sexy

[@scrappyjackalope9558]

You aren't kidding there. I know it is a subjective thing but the ZR2 looks so sharp. To me the Ranger Raptor looks good but not ZR2 good :)

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@scrappyjackalope9558 agree

[@jhouser972]

I choose the Colorado ZR2 for a few reasons. 5k-10k cheaper with these Ford markups. Ventilated seats, which the raptor doesn't have. Awesome underbody cameras. And again, the raptor doesn't have.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Love the zr2. And those are great points

[@chaleowin7732]

Ranger Raptor since it can fit full sized sheet of plywood in it.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Great point! I'd use my trailer to haul wood. But for those with out a trailer that could be a very important detail

[@marklihsu]

​@@itsallminor6133 well the payload is still better than a Tacoma and tows just about much. You just get to have more fun when you are done with work.

[@calsonic86]

Considering you can almost get two ZR2s for the price dealers are asking for the Ranger Raptor, the decision is easy.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yeah the ford mark ups some dealers are asking is ridiculous

[@scrappyjackalope9558]

There are many dealers who sell at MSRP. I got mine at MSRP. Had to do some searching but I found them. Just keep looking.

[@paddyron1]

If you're Canadian the decision is easy. The RR starts at $80,140, and the ZR2 starts at $60,700. Bison starts at $74,900.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

That's huge differences

[@brianmola711]

I’d rather take the Raptor. While looks are subjective, I think it looks just as good as the ZR2, not to mention it’s got a V6. Can’t say yes to a turbo 4 in a midsize truck which is unfortunately the case with the ZR2.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

The v6 has some advantages for sure.

[@MrHand-ih4sz]

Got my ZR2 two months ago. Awesome ride. Everything looks better with a bowtie on it....

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Love it! Congratulations on such an amazing truck!

[@Nitehawkin]

Think I could get 150k on the zr2 with proper maintenance? I need it to last a while.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

I do. I think all the trucks today are capable of going 200k miles. But I expect all of them to require substantial cost of repair to get there. I'm guessing a few grand in repairs (3-7k). Again this is just my personal opinion so take it only for what it's worth. I think problems will start at around 120k miles on all brands. I personally would buy an extended warranty and have it on any vehicle I own today. I don't trust any manufacturer today to build anything that is going to be problem free. And parts and labor cost are theu the roof.

[@billytaglis3586]

Samko I agree I bought The extended warranty just to play it on the safe side I'm sure I'll need it down the road.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@billytaglis3586 yep. I won't own a new truck anymore without an extended warranty.

[@DavidWright-kc6qg]

I enjoy my ZR2 and seeing the TRD PRO and Ranger Raptor doesn’t give me any buyers remorse. The ZR2 isn’t a Raptor, but it’s very capable of driving fast off road on the DSSVs, and it’s also a very capable crawler thanks to the approach angle. The real difference is that the Raptor sounds great, it’s faster, and it has a better seat up front. The ZR2 gets ventilated seats, but the 2.7 gains on the 3.0 as a truck engine. The 2.7s have been in the silverados since 2019 and they’re seeing 150-200k without issues. The 3.0 is an awesome engine, but it’s a higher compression, and there have been issues with the 3.0 in the past.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Congratulations on your new zr2! Such an amazing truck and probably the one Id buy too.

[@MtnStrawn]

Do both trucks have front lockers?

[@scottcruikshank138]

Both trucks do have front lockers.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yes.

[@MrJEEPJT]

@@SamkoWorkShopJEEP should take initiative and put “LOCKERS” as available option on “WILLY’s” models not everyone wants to Spend bigger $$$$ on Rubicon’s 🤬🤬🤬🤬

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@MrJEEPJT the willys now come with standard rear locker. So a step in the right direction. But you are correct jeep pisses me off alot with the things is should do bit thry don't. Like a front locker on the Mojave!

[@MrJEEPJT]

@@SamkoWorkShop It must be something very new. I was having a conversation with a co-worker who has a 2022 Willy’s he was telling me he’s got a limited slip jeep calls Track-Lok. My gladiator is a sport model with an open differential. I leased it but my next one will be special order I want the Payload package which includes wide-track axles and rear limited slip.Next gladiator I’m purchasing.

[@ironchung30]

What exactly about the raptor motor do you give it the longevity edge? The 2.7L turbo seems ultra proven and well designed.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Both ate excellent. The nod I give to the raptor is it's a twin turbo v6. But thst edge I said in minimal. Given all the variables today I would not bet on witch one last longer. It could go either way. But statistically the v6 should ha e an edge in longevity

[@is6566]

The 3.0 is a less stressed engine for very similar hp and same torque. Bigger displacement, twin turbos and more cylinders generate the power with less effort so if everything else is equal (which of course we don’t know) should last longer.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@is6566 very well said

[@marklihsu]

​@@is6566true. Anyone who says that 50% more cylinders doesn't aid in longevity is not being serious.

[@phillipjohnson5053]

I’m going zr2 all day between the 2 options, but you have to talk me out of my gladiator first!

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Pretty hard to talk me.out of my gladiator too! But when it comes time to buy a new truck if I can't get the gladiator numbers down 10k again, probably a zr2.

[@phillipjohnson5053]

@@SamkoWorkShop think they will come off that much on a ZR2? If so tell them you need 2 and I’ll go with you to pick them up 🤣

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@phillipjohnson5053 😂 don't think they will drop that much on a zr2. Sure wish they would. But going even msrp to msrp 49k zr2 vs 60k gladiator rubi makes it an easier decision. If I can get 10k off the gladiator (very likely I will be able to when it's time) a new gladiator will be in the drive way.

[@billytaglis3586]

I paid way more than 47 for my ZR2 The dealer markups are crazy.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Congratulations on such an excellent truck! You are gonna love it

[@Raven00714]

Big difference in ranger and raptor interior

[@CRICRICTH]

I agree. I hate my 2021 Ranger back seat. I do a lot of camping and that back seats aren’t useful.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Yep ford dropped the ball in the back seat area comparatively

[@Jamesthor]

This isn’t a hard decision at all. One vehicle, you can go to a dealership today and buy it. The other vehicle, has the same characteristics as a unicorn. You hear about it, you read about it but you’ll actually never see one with your own eyes. The Tacoma TRD Pro., it’s like an alien sighting. People claim to have seen one, but most have never seen one with their own eyes. So there’s really only one option here unless you get abducted or get sucked into a cartoon.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Zr2 is definitely more available

[@kabloosh699]

Ford dealers will make it pretty easy when they will mark the Raptor up.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

I'm expecting insane mark up on most of thr raptors...it's ford's way. Hopefully they learn a lesson soon and stop it.

[@slidewide1999]

Once he said the raptors engine was better durability with no cited reason, then said hp doesn’t matter in a truck (only torque) I dropped this warning and stopped the video.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Cool. Thanks for warning everyone

[@sealoftheliving4998]

The best is buy both all is done😂😂😂

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Even if I didn't buy both, just to be in the position to say I could would make me very happy😂

[@Raven00714]

I have the Raptor and yes you can put 35s on without any modifications

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Good to know. And congratulations on such a great truck

[@nrk2of3]

Zr2 you can get a sunroof. 50k + and no sunroof 😢

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Zr2 sure is priced very well for how much truck you get

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@itsallminor6133 in a truck sun roof open and all windows down causing trails is very nice

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@itsallminor6133 those are fantastic points as well. Points I didn't even think about and I'm a photographer 😂

[@jerrettsimon1849]

Ill buy the toyota tacoma trd pro when it releases.. GM 8 spd is shit, i had 2 and both had a shimmy. My dads 6.2 chevy with 8 spd, same thing. After multiple times in the service department they never got it right. I like the ford as my wife has the explorer st with the same engine. No problems with it so far.

[@EdMiF]

It's not the same 8-speed. There are no complaints on any '23 or '24 Canyon/Colorado transmission issues.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Tacoma is a great truck. Pricey but a great truck

[@marklihsu]

Total Ripoff Dude!

[@Holden-McGroin]

The issues with the 8-speed have been fixed, and in most cases it just needed different fluid.

[@jerrettsimon1849]

@@Holden-McGroin I understand they may be fixed now. I had to fight it for 5 years through 2 vehicles , a c7 Corvette and a Silverado. That'll give you a bad taste in your mouth for GM. I'll buy everything else but GM

[@DeanShaffer-ed7hb]

There is no comparison!! The Zr2 power is a joke and the passenger front seat is junk!!! Go for a ride in one you will be begging to get out. As far as the price difference it's because GM won't give you a power seat for the passenger side! One thing is true the back seat is more comfortable than the passenger front seat. And to top it off take the zr2 through a car wash and the roof will pop every time unless you get the sunroof. So you get what you pay for buyer beware 😢

[@SamkoWorkShop]

I have drove 2 zr2s. Love them. Would be my first choice but still a tough choice

[@DeanShaffer-ed7hb]

@SamkoWorkShop I own a 2024 zr2 and it's not what the old generation was. The new one is a joke

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@DeanShaffer-ed7hb what don't you like about it?

[@Jamesthor]

Dude, you just contradicted yourself. You can lose by buying the raptor. About 10 to 20 grand.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

But to some people the extra options on the ranger are worth the extra cost

[@casper24ism]

Ok so im going to try to be nice here.sir.you admit you have not even driven a raptor ranger.so how can you compare anything.let me help you.I bought a colorado zr2 bison.lasted 2 weeks.the engine is a complete joke.you keep saying things are a wash.again you never driven one.i bought a ranger raptor.its not even in the same league. Suspension is not in the same league.you say interior is better in zr2? Again you never been in one?interior is not even in the same league if you did your homework you would know the seats in ranger was but spacifically for the ranger the seats in the colorado are not comfortable.yiu say they both do the same.lol dude you never even sat in a raptor how can you say that? Lol they are not even in the same league.please educate yourself.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

Sounds like the ranger is perfect for you. Glad you found a vehicle you like.

[@alexcarbery8189]

Frankly it’s an easy choice. Hate money? Buy the Ford. Zr2 is 96% the same truck and is a valid daily driver unlike the Raptor. I’m not bashing the Ford at all, this is a great season of competition but GM will be sweeping the floor in sales because of price.

[@keithhunt3437]

U know u can option the zr2 to be like 10k over the RR right? And idk man 96% is a stretch they are very similar in many ways but have some important differences.

[@davidwethington9320]

ZR2 bison is 60k. Loaded Raptor is 59k.

[@keithhunt3437]

@@davidwethington9320 go on Chevys website and see what happens when u select the bison package for the zr2. It’s 60k! And that’s it now if u wanna add more packages so that it has the same amount of features and a few more as a RR it’s gonna be minimum 65k and that won’t include the sunroof or premium sound

[@fanboiahoy260]

Optioned for similar specs, the price is basically the same

[@keithhunt3437]

@@fanboiahoy260and that wouldn’t include the bison package. Not to mention with the RR ur getting 100 more HP adaptive coil overs a v6 TT watslink rear end 10 speed better seats adj exhaust, suspension, and steering feel. The Colorado is a great looking truck with more creature comforts but for the price the RR is definitely giving u the most. Honestly both these trucks do small things better than one another like Chevy with the split folding rear seat and physical buttons for the lockers but they don’t have a physical switch for the headlights. If u could combine these two trucks and take all the best aspects it would be the ultimate truck hands down.

[@scrappyjackalope9558]

You have no idea what you are talking about. I have driven both and your comment on the motor/power like you actually know something. The power characteristics of the Ford are much more responsive off the bottom, frankly the ZR2 is very laggy off the bottom in comparison... Don't give opinions on something you know nothing about..

[@SamkoWorkShop]

😂😂 love this. It's very funny

[@scrappyjackalope9558]

@@SamkoWorkShop Its funny you have zero actual experience and don't know what you are talking about. Got to love them internet experts.

[@SamkoWorkShop]

@@scrappyjackalope9558 glad we got that sorted