Harley 2025 Returning and Future Models - What to Expect

[@nickolaslewis4416]

RIP Harley Davidson 🪦

[@Fast48-1]

Yep!

[@StevenGemuend]

Prices are just getting stupidly out of wack.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

Only if you're poor. For the many of means it's nothing.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@SoWereDoingWhatNow So buy a Harley for 937 grand. I'm sure it means nothing.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

@@exothermal.sprocket If you're rich the current price of a new HD is nothing. You and me are not rich so it seems stupid. HD are not for you and me then just like a new Lamborghini or NY penthouse. It's pretty simple stuff. HD want the new young money not the old guys dressed up like the Village People who moan about every new model regardless of price and will be dead soon anyway.

[@Fast48-1]

And rising!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

@@exothermal.sprocket If you're rich the current price of a new HD is nothing. You and me are not rich so it seems stupid. HD are not for you and me then just like a new Lamborghini or NY penthouse. It's pretty simple stuff. HD want the new young money not the old guys dressed up like the Village People who moan about every new model regardless of price

[@blackbuttecruizr]

Happy New Year! Hope it is an EPIC one for you, Brooke and the baby!!!

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thank you and Happy New Year to you too!

[@keithdabear1334]

Yeah, I stopped in a Harley dealer in Vegas. He had over 100 bikes they couldn't sell

[@Fast48-1]

My word, are they looking for more ways to tank their brand? One has to wonder!

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

Tank? Sales have been up 11.4% since August.

[@Fast48-1]

@@SoWereDoingWhatNow I was unaware of that.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

@@Fast48-1 Surprised me too considering their management.

[@anthonysilvestri4946]

@@Fast48-1 You were unaware of that because it's complete BS They are forcing dealers to buy bikes from the factory to fraudulently inflate sales numbers🙂

[@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778]

@@SoWereDoingWhatNow Oh, come on, Year over year unit sales have been down for years in a row and are projected to be down again on '25. They can only compensate for fewer unit sales with higher prices for so long. They'er toast. There's already enough Harley cruisers on the road to satisfiy the shrinking demand for years a Harley's market niche ages out.

[@CarysCorner]

Harley Davidson, building yesterday’s motorcycles at tomorrow’s pricing… 🤪

[@g0ral]

We can expect further drops in sales and an exodus of new customers

[@grumpy2142]

Been there done that...once was enough....

[@A_Dirrty_Bird]

Should I expect motors with 50s era tech (pushrod valves) put into bikes that weigh half as much as a small car being sold for $30k?......yeah that's what I thought. Thanks Harley, but no thanks. I'll keep buying literally anything else

[@davidpasquale8498]

All shiny new in the dealership floor, till you get the expensive monthly payment book, nothing jumps out to me, motorcycle is a motorcycle, that's why I still have my only ultra reliable 1991flhs 😊

[@michaeldenherder3440]

Harley Davidson should make a reasonably priced scrambler looking bike based on an old Sportster. A bit like the RE Interceptor Bear. The designers should also watch Easy Rider and Bike Riders to get some inspiration:-)

[@Fast48-1]

That's a good idea! Personally, I think a revived XR750 would sell well! And maybe even appeal to "new" riders whom they have apparently forgotten!!

[@ItsNotMeItsYou007]

The company no longer likes you. The head guy doesn't care what people like you want. He wants to sell bikes to people like him.

[@Fast48-1]

@@ItsNotMeItsYou007 Maybe he should have taken a head count beforehand!

[@ItsNotMeItsYou007]

@@Fast48-1 Probably surrounds himself with people like himself which gives him the false impression that the numbers were more in his favor.

[@Fast48-1]

@@ItsNotMeItsYou007 I believe the boards members share his values.

[@warmstrong5612]

It amazes me how a modern Harley can look both heavy and cheap simultaneously. Like it's cast out of thick plastic parts.

[@MarvFitBikesKicks]

Absolutely hate this brand, getting rid of my Harley this year and never going back

[@waterkoppie]

For now, in Europe the Thailand Touring models are just as expensive as the USA models. Here they show up coming from both plants (as from the VIN number), probably depending on availability, or internal corporate plant-to-plant competition.

[@halinabiegalski9509]

Good video! Thank you 👍

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thank you too!

[@AnyoneSeenMikeHunt]

Vangaurd Motorcycles going strong. New BlackRock and State Street models coming soon.

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

The prices are truly LMAO stuff

[@Jack-kt8bs]

I am on my last Harley. I figure 2>3 more years. And I am heading back to a Sport Tour

[@jean-francoisvachon9706]

Hi. Thank you for work. Please make a comparo of NX 500 and Eliminator 500 SE. I’m 5’11¨, 200 pounds, and will get my moto driving license in 2025, then buy my first motorcycle. Happy New Year !

[@jamesonpace726]

Overpriced toys for boys who don't know much about bikes is what HD has become & made in Thailand, jeez....

[@mifacche]

One thing is certain. In Europe, HD will not be able to present the Sportster evo model, given that the patent and the presses to produce it are owned by China (Shineray Motor). In Europe the good old Sportster is marketed under the SWM brand and the name STORMBREAKER V 1200. It could only make an agreement with Shineray Motor, and only market it in the USA.

[@stevenpierce4359]

I will stay with my RKS 131eng 2020 can’t get what you put in to it

[@Anton_G_604]

I hope there is a new Nightster, especially since Ryan Kruesi has done Harley a major favor by christening the Nightster S the new early model Dyna. Hope there is a street hooligan Pan America, aka the lost Bronx but with a 1250 motor like you said. So far Harley is pricing themselves out of reach for most people.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

The Nightster could be salvaged with a thin, minimalist radiator like the Indian Chiefs. The current one is a monstrosity.

[@BadBart64]

$28.000 for a Roadglide and still no inverted front fork and / or adaptive cruise control....

[@waltersylwesiuk7563]

Agree 100%! This price for a badge!?! Paint extra, finish black more $$, enough already!!! Ridiculous!!

[@Lee-em1lb]

I'll just keep my '10 FXDB. Set up for me and $$$$ too high on new bikes. Try Australia prices $32000 plus for low rider S.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Inflation is worse in Canada and Australia than the US for sure.

[@donald_trummp]

Unfortunately, I cannot afford a Harley, as I've still to finish working on my dad bud...

[@michaelfinck6945]

@ Differant Spokes TV: Thank for this video! In Europe and here in Germany the RevMaxes are struggeling, you could say they're failing. I've never seen a Nightster on the road, PanAm sales dropped 70% from 2022 to 2023 alone. 2024 sales must be horrific. The Sportster S is the only model with at least decent sales numbers. I'm hoping I might be misleaded, but I feel the PanAm will fell short against the competition no matter if ADV, with 17s on it or as a "Hooligan" type of bike. People are going to buy GSes, Multristradas and Tracer 9s. And 2025 you'll get the Hornet 1000 for 2/3 (!) of the standard Nightster's price. The Sportster S imight be the only model with realistic potential saleswise. A CVO with the 150 hp high output RevMax and upgraded suspension & brakes could make sense. Regarding the Softail platform I feel we won't see the Sport Glide again. But maybe a revival of the beloved Super Glide Sport / T-Sport ?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

You're welcome! I love the Super Glide and would love to see a Softail version but the Lowrider S is close to what that bike was so I doubt Harley would put it out. I guess the Tariffs aren't helping Harley in Europe.

[@kevinarmstrong478]

I find a new model year from Harley about as interesting as a new IPhone release.

[@xnihilo64]

What are they gonna do when China can't supply major components?

[@ItsNotMeItsYou007]

Does anybody want one anymore?

[@dmaxcustom]

By Harley's prices, the Bronx would need to be an hypernaked. Otherwise, no way.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

That's why they need the 1250.

[@dmaxcustom]

@@DifferentSpokesTV Not enough, needs to compete on the 180+ HP. Do you think HD would be able to?

[@robertlong538]

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[@nonsononessunooko4066]

harley do everything other than just release an simple affirdable cruise model with just engine and brakes and that it. like royal enfield

[@raulsalanaranjo6565]

A Road King Classic would have me drooling for ages… a dream bike for me!

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Yep, my favourite all time touring platform.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

What if Harley Davidson disclosed their overhead, labor, and material costs that goes into each model, so the public can compare that to the sales price.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

Why? Show me one company that isn't a not-for-profit that does that? Does Coke show you the $2 can is actually 2 cents?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

You skeered?

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

That would be interesting to know. I think we'd be shocked at the margins, especially on the pricier bikes.

[@exothermal.sprocket]

Having once worked in a dealership selling European bikes, I know in general the sales margins on units aren't very big. For Japanese bikes, the manufacturer has a lot of control in dealership margins. They aren't very big at all, the majority of profits at dealerships comes from service and parts/product sales. Harley Davidson is a very different animal. I don't have a lot of respect for them, knowing their often ruthless history, their involvement in international political affairs in the Reagan era, their taking down of Alta, their handling of other brands (MV Agusta, Buell, etc). Being they are a powerful corporation, they have finance companies, I have a strong suspicion (but I cannot confirm) that HD gets impressive margins on their bikes and the real suckers are the customers.

[@tedsalmon2533]

I couldn't care less about HD. Show this to Elon Musk

[@gordonwallin2368]

He, no doubt can't ride.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

What on earth does Musk have to do with HD? Like huh?

[@tedsalmon2533]

@@SoWereDoingWhatNow Nothing as far as I know. I was exaggerating my point of HD's being priced for rich people.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

@@tedsalmon2533 But HDs ARE for rich people. They've always been expensive during my lifetime. Even when I had money to burn I could never justify the price and got something else.

[@gigi9467]

Damn, guess selling less bikes makes then jack up the price, got to say not worth it, i bought 3 new harley 2 street glide and 1 dyna, for hiw much they wer back then it was ok but closer to 30k maybe am just now but it’s not worth it, years old with kids I decided to buy a lightweight motorcycle. That’s never expensive definitely looked into horny, but there’s sports churches was not a sports or like a Japanese bike and expensive ended up with something with the same heritage which was a Triumph.

[@WhisperingWolf1]

bikes not selling

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

Sales have been up 11.4% since August.

[@igneous85]

Harley always make BMW and Ducati look like a bargain

[@7051mike]

Agreed their done Honda has shown with all there small bore street legal bikes that’s what people want. Cheap reliable fun motorcycles , grom trail 125 xr150 Dax monkey also royal enfield’s line of bikes. Harley’s done

[@sahilaustraliavlogs]

Nice try didi

[@anthonysilvestri4946]

Hardly-Capable released new models with ZERO changes??? Is this supposed to be some sort of "breaking news" LMAO 🙂

[@geneclarke2205]

Yeah, HD needs a home run and a plan for all the 2024 models still in showrooms. But it appears the entire motorcycle industry is in trouble as Honda, Yamaha, and Triumph all announced they're cutting 2025 production targets due to weak demand and well, then there's KTM. I just don't understand HD price hikes going into this 2025 economy even if Trump "Makes Eggs 99 Cents Again". Hopefully, HD will announce models with real innovation and a "wow" factor but I'm not very optimistic.

[@SoWereDoingWhatNow]

You do know who owns HD yea?

[@exothermal.sprocket]

@@SoWereDoingWhatNow Yes. The sustainable Taliban owns it.

[@zacharyfett2491]

If anyone is on the fence about a Road Glide ST, AND they have the money, it’s a wonderful motorcycle. That price tag like all of these, is eye watering though. And the fact that they don’t have any entry level bikes, is positively criminal.

[@georgeperkins4171]

They're focusing on a vanishing demographic.

[@gordonwallin2368]

Happy New Year and how's the family? When I win the lotto, I may buy a Harley; I've ridden a dozen of so and the only one I like was the XR1200, and now they're worth more than new. Buying a Harley now, a big one, not the "girls bike" is like buying a Rolls-just to show you're wealthy. The Sportster replacements are F**k ugly to begin with and they're out matched by all the other manufacturers in power/weight and suspension. Make'em super "Sporsters"; power, six speed, better looks-like an old Croker or Vincent. What are they thinking? The "working man's bike" is a twenty year old 500-750-ish Japanese bike that, never wear out. Not a Harley any more. (Just a thought, when bikes weren't just toys; late '40's, '50's, '60's; Harleys were always more expensive, but only compared to slightly smaller British bikes; like BSA, Matchless, Triumph, AJS, and so on-Vincent was above the Harley price, and Norton was about equal. However, aside from Vincent, the difference in price was like the difference between a Chevy or a Pontiac-it wasn't that much of a gap. Now they're all crazy expensive, but Harley, living in the 1950's has only one market, super wealthy, for now. Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

[@DifferentSpokesTV]

Thanks, we're all great! Yes, they are getting more expensive relative to the competition but it would be cool to see a Black Lightning Sportster. That would get some attention.

[@jerryandnancywertzbaugher7778]

Year over year unit sales keep falling and are projected to fall again in 2025. And why wouldn't they? HD cultivated a narrow market niche with a narrow range of bike-types. There's nowhere for those types to go technologically, so they just raise the price every year to make up for fewer unit sales. Toatally neglecting the entry level rider with good standard bikes in the 350-700cc range has finally cought up with them. Now the Boomer outlaw biker vibe is dead. Harley's cruiser fans are aging out of motorcycling entirely; their live expectancy as bikeers will not be extended by offering $30,000 trikes.