Harley M8 KILLS Stock Clutch | Shop Talk Episode 33

Today we go over how the M8 is killing stock clutch systems on Harley-Davidson's, and how to avoid this with your next Moonshine Build.
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[@taylor_meyer_bbq]

These 2 are impressive.... I wish every dealership had this level of knowledge not only in the shop but in the parts end as well

[@rawdawgg_]

99% do

[@mikepsly73]

Shared this channel with my boy. Bought his first Harley this year. 2022 SGS. Hes looking at taking his bike to moonshine for a build.

[@smokeGR14]

Good job....👍👍everyone wants the power and don't realize the next weakest link...you need a complete package...

[@moldmaker1]

Another great video guys, much appreciated!

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

Moonshine has to be the coolest HD dealership entire whole wide flat earth we live on. I love how they’re all about MAKIN POWER!!! if only all dealers had a bad ass crew of dudes who are all about making power and bad ass bikes and have lots of depths of knowledge

[@joevandivner9704]

That last clutch the AIM is amazing. At first I didn’t think I was going to like it but after riding about 1000 miles I love it and it works amazing but come spring time we will need a heavier setup for the 128 haha.

[@djmorgan8783]

I love the way you guys sitting explain something I know you guys are hard workers and busy all the time they're putting together these projects and it's so awesome you guys find time to do this out of your busy day and whoever would give two thumbs down for any thumbs down needs to be knocked in the head I wish I lived closer to you guys posole have my business there with my new purchase next year

[@rsbharley4766]

Great video, lots of great info. Thanks for sharing. Cheers

[@citizendick6087]

Great info,thanks guys! much appreciated.

[@NoName-vz1ob]

Thanks! To Bill Brasky!

[@baltsosser]

Good shit gentleman. Nice in deoth look with a side of things to look out for like clearance issues. I had to share this with two Harley drivers.

[@roncoburn7771]

I love them wiz bang clutch’s myself

[@Thebwaller07]

What’s happening Arron. Hope all is well. Good shit right here!!!

[@gregorykopko]

Amazing work as always

[@NoName-vz1ob]

Thank you

[@talkingrock7011]

Great information !

[@dandubejr5010]

THE BEST HARLEY PORN ALWAYS

[@hollowell427]

He said balls.. hehehe.

[@paulson9616]

How about HD factory warranty on all these non-HD parts showing here?

[@tobpitbull]

I would recommend any major motor work to upgrade to BDL...

[@rooster8633]

for a stock application, which slave cylinder works better in reducing the effort of pulling in the clutch. the AIM or the muller

[@wunder8962]

Is that General Zod? No it’s just Aaron 😂

[@harleydave2316]

I hate it when my balls are at their lowest point. It's soo inefficient!!!! Another awesome video gents...

[@chadzupfer8005]

Good shit

[@RoadieWingZZ]

Good info, but you could definitely kill the distracting background music 👍

[@raford250]

Keith Rabun I like the music, gives the video more dynamic than just talking.

[@synonyx]

Thanks boys! Wish my 131 would have came with an upgraded clutch....

[@JokerTheVlad]

Me too...

[@joshcooper86]

Really informative video, thanks guys. I'm assuming if you are doing a 128 upgrade you'd have to be mad not to upgrade the oil pump and clutch yeah?

[@MoonshineHarley]

Joshua Cooper we would agree.

[@scrumthebum2451]

@@MoonshineHarley A little late but at what TQ & Hp should I worry about the basket ? I just put Barnett x plate kit in my twin cam 10: making 108 hp 116 TQ The basket looked good but now I find out about problems with the basket & HP upgrades. Thanks

[@vonsamson2209]

Yeah like 3rd gear in my 2018 flhxs with stage 3 only 120 lbs of torque and 111 hp. Blown tranny at 7,800 miles and warranty just ran out.

[@Firestorm637]

Harley should offer high performance versions from the factory with the tech that goes along with the increased power. I typically buy a bike for the engine from the factory as that is the most costly to modify. Suspension mods are much less expensive. Harley’s answer to power is a larger motor but lighter bikes, composites cost money, helps everything like handling, braking, and acceleration. Less heat to move a machine.

[@tomseviltwinky]

My stock clutch basket blew and shorted out my stator. Hoping the Trask basket holds together better

[@jamielima5315]

tomseviltwinky the Trask basket is nice!

[@tomseviltwinky]

Unruly Rider Good to hear. My Roadking is running 120 hp 138 tq. Very fun till stuff starts breaking.

[@jimscycleandautotn8508]

Bike slipping in only 5th and 6th slightly , thinkin he needs some plates.. Bike has over 100k . adjustment on pack and lever is solid.

[@FranBunnyFFXII]

So would it be a total waste of money/time to go with the Screamin Eagle 1200nm springs and 10 plate clutch pack for a stage 2 build?(M8 114, 475c cam, slips-ons, PV tune) IT's like 220$ Or is the stock setup just fine for stage 2 with a 475c?

[@NoName-vz1ob]

For just a cam the 1200N springs are fine. I would at least do the springs.

[@FranBunnyFFXII]

@@NoName-vz1ob Cool thanks!

[@mashupinfo]

Great video.... but what did you end up putting in the bike that went Kaboom? I have a bike putting out the same tq and hp and it’s slipping too....

[@jamielima5315]

Phil Simpson call Aaron at Moonshine Harley-Davidson 615-771-7775 and he’ll go over some options for your ride.

[@k.thomas9590]

If you don’t like noise buy an inline 4 bike and leave the HD’s to the Big Boys!

[@heritage_cowboy6568]

Hello, I have a 2018 Heritage 114, I have little over 9000 miles on it. Since we've bought it used with 2000 miles on it. It is hard to get in to Neutral. I have had it in to a Harley Dealer for adjustment, but still not going in neutral especially when I'm at a stop. I have to pretty much have to shut it down to get into neutral. What should I do?

[@festgnob]

Put into N while ur still moving

[@eddiewyatt599]

When you stop move it backwards a foot or so while holding in clutch and then try to put it into neutral. On my 2018 street glide helps a lot goes right in neutral no problem then.

[@robertfrizzell8656]

Hey there. First time listener-first time comment-er(?)... I am shopping for a new HD, Street Glide likely, and have owned Road Kings before, last was '02. Are you telling me that after I pay around 30k for a new bike, I need to upgrade the clutch (more $$$) because the 'stock' clutch is crap? Serious query here.

[@MoonshineHarley]

Robert Frizzell lol, Not at all! This is an upgraded needed when we build a Engine that produces more than 50% more HP/TQ over stock.

[@robertfrizzell8656]

@@MoonshineHarley copy!

[@charlesladd1699]

Screw the EPA

[@davemilbourne7761]

F***!! More $$ I need to spend on this build. How about a Baker Tranny while I’m at it too?? 😂😂😂

[@NoName-vz1ob]

It never ends.

[@docholiday1034]

You wont want too get involved with Baker anymore......

[@coolkatz9012]

So basically HD clutches are designed to grenade .

[@fb510m]

Like the vid presetation and valuable info but...could really do without the noise “music” thanks

[@chadzupfer8005]

What music

[@chipper442]

You knew the guy was hammering the shit out of it, and left the stock basket, the new weak link in the killer “bad ass”components you put in. Should have done it correctly the first time, and he’d be riding it.

[@jacquesyoung7010]

is there a kit to covert the metric shit ton to SAE shit ton. lol

[@NoName-vz1ob]

😆

[@dadtrap]

That was a shit metric ton of information. Good job

[@oo-dd3lk]

Knowledgeable technicians. Why would you buy any motorcycle that is horrendously expensive new, and seems to need endless “ Upgrades “ and a fortune spending to make it a half decent sickle ? Misplaced brand loyalty, it seems.... or people with huge egos, and lottery winnings they don’t know what to do with. ( Or more debt.)

[@NoName-vz1ob]

These aren't needed for stock applications.

[@MacSpies]

Kaboom lol

[@dc83421]

Y

[@christidmas3995]

Guys,the musac noise is totally not needed.It is not MTV.Just straight out care and expertise is all that is needed.Harley needed to test these things comprehensively.Very bad PR.Appreciate your work. Could not play it all.So noisey.Sorry.

[@NoName-vz1ob]

The upgrades we are covering are not for stock applications. The OEM drivetrain is more than adequate for stock and minor power upgrades. These parts are for when you are adding 50+ HP/TQ to the machine. And we are professional mechanics maybe not so much professional KZbinrs, we are working to get better on that part.

[@dickravis]

Why is the audio effing garbage on this otherwise well done and informative video?

[@itemps]

🤣🤣 kaboom

[@normanboeck5444]

Evolution industries makes a bitchin clutch and clutch basket. I won’t use anything else.

[@lenjames]

The money people spend just to say they got a bad ass HD. Really who cares? What the fuck do these people do with these bikes? I have a 2019 RKS and a CVO 117 bike and they are unmolested HDs. In my barn I also have a 2015 RK and a 2006 Deuce. All stock with many miles riden without wasting money on hop ups. I love the HD owner's who complain about their bikes when all this go fast shit are put on and their bikes break. Stop spending money on stupid shit.....my own 2 cents.

[@mrvoyagerm]

So......million dollar bogan has ridden his 2018 Road King Special around one side of Australia and now up the middle of Australia through hell and back twice, many many off road treks in the searing desert heat getting stuck on a regular basis and roosting his way out with giant rooster tails all without a clutch failure. I have to ask........what can a normal rider be doing to their Harley to cause this much damage that Million Dollar Bogan has not done?

[@jamielima5315]

mrvoyagerm his bike doesn’t make close to the HP & TQ of this Harley. That’s the difference.

[@typervh]

He still rides the arse out of it. Ive got 117hp and 131tq in my rks and today its starting to do some wierd shit when i take off.

[@arthurmchugh5184]

I have 80.000 miles on my stock clutch on my 150 HP Ducati, no problem with mine !! 🏍😎just sayin 😁😁🍺

[@jamielima5315]

Arthur McHugh Race bike that weighs a 3rd less, translation ... a lot less stress on the clutch. Super cool bike just not the same beast!

[@ozziejim8472]

There’s alway one in the bunch!

[@arthurmchugh5184]

@@UnrulyRider hey !! If you are gonna design a clutch to handle the weight of a tug boat then put in better parts!! WTF H-D paying more for less since 1908 🤣🤣

[@arthurmchugh5184]

I have done the same thing with my car !!🤣🤣🤣

[@bustedknuckle3808]

wtf... they left the pos harley basket in place ... knowing the biles owner liked the hole shots... bad call... by any standard .. did they do the return for free?

[@NoName-vz1ob]

Actually he told us he was easy on his clutch and never dumped it. And he didn't want to spend the extra cheddah for the basket. I guess once he got it back he just couldn't help himself 😉. He did get a big "I told you so" Haha, but I like your style... Of course we helped him out.

[@claritin62]

Harley M8’s clutch and clutch compensators should be immediately replaced. Junk!

[@MoonshineHarley]

We agree when the engine in making more than 140HP. If its stock or close to stock the Harley-Davidson setup is perfectly fine.

[@claritin62]

Moonshine Harley Mine was close to stock with only a cam and exhaust added. I am definitely not the only one and I’m curious how the 140hp is a benchmark?

[@richardmerrifield8186]

Junk !