10 ABANDONED Harry Potter Plot Lines - Harry Potter Explained

[@HarryPotterTheory]

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[@stevefontaine1335]

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[@KeiraH-j1j]

Great video thanks for posting 🎉

[@dakotalange2858]

What if the Lucius and the Malfoys were double agents with Snape (Not saying they aren’t snobs or anything but they are really looking out for their family and themselves and playing both sides help benefit them the greatest)

[@KeiraH-j1j]

@@dakotalange2858 hmm idk maybe

[@World_is_my_Oyster]

I think you forgot to discuss Rowling considering to make Draco and Hermione a thing and why she abandoned it

[@RobertLydonReviews]

I understand why JK decided not to give Dudley’s children magic but at the same time I really wish she did. Magic in Harry Potter inspires hope, change, and so much more and having Dudley’s kids be magical would allow them to bond and be more than cordial and this way Harry would have a relationship with his wife’s family and his own

[@VTdarkangel]

While I understand Rowling's reasoning as well, I think Dudley having a magical child would've made for an interesting family dynamic where Dudley now has to learn about and engage with Harry's world. It wiuld also require Harry to learn to put away past grievances to help Dudley with his child. This could have been a powerful element in character development for both characters, especially if one of Harry's children had been a squib along side Dudley's magical child. That being said, as I type this, I also realize that this would likely have been a whole book unto itself and would probably have been outside of the scope of the story Rowling wanted to tell.

[@ryanmoore3369]

I think it’s better her way . If Dudley had powers there would be no crule parents they would understand Harry and it just wouldn’t make sense why Harry loves hog warts so much and calls it home. If the parents like him and understood magic he may not care for hogwarts as much

[@VTdarkangel]

@@ryanmoore3369 the question was never if Dudley was magical. It was of one or all of his children was magical. This would've maintained the overall parental dynamic of the story, but would've added an ironic complication at the end.

[@Andalaeknir86]

Another issue is she leave the whole abusive stuff like it's never a thing or problem

[@blueberrycranberrycherry]

idk this kind of falls under the whole wizards are superior to muggles thing lol. as if their lives would automatically be better if they were wizards

[@anthonyklanke1397]

I 100% love the choice of the closing words. It is clear, direct and simple. It validates all the hardships the characters of the stories endured and truly wraps the very long story up with a neat little bow. Its a more original take on "and they lived happily ever after" :)

[@rubensousa9216]

Harry still owned a slave tho

[@Ben-zr4ho]

​@@rubensousa9216 Harry INHERITED a slave. That he desperately wished not to have. But he couldnt get rid of because knew too much about the Order of Phoenix. Anyway a slave thats only wish in life was to be slave.

[@rubensousa9216]

@@Ben-zr4ho Dude... slavery is bad and slavery is wrong... this shouldn't be a hot take. The only elf depicted as being happy was Dobby after being released. Harry kept his slave and asked himself if he would make him a sandwich. If you kept your slaves, all is not well.

[@Rare.99]

Don't they like being slaves? House elves don't like to be free? Am I missing something?

[@anthonyklanke1397]

Yea this is a pretty interesting topic in the books. I think the moral of the story is to treat others ethically regardless of who they are. There are many people in the world who have no self worth and go out of their way to encourage others to abuse them. I think its important to treat all people equally regardless of station. So for house elves (not including the unique situation with creature), you could let one live with you and clean your house if they wanted to, but the elf must be told that they are free to leave whenever they choose with no repercussions or shame. And if the elf chooses to live with your family, make them feel included and respected in the home :)

[@samlucas88]

JKR also said there was a plot of having a female Weasley cousin sorted into Slytherin who was going to leak info about the trio to the outside world i think in the 4th book but it was scrapped and she used Rita Skeeter spying on them in her beetle animagus form instead for that

[@fisk7aal]

Mafalda

[@AleiahPrice]

Rita skeeter is better than the Weasley cousins

[@anthonyklanke1397]

Such an awesome vid! The Florian sub plot absolutely blew my mind!! Damn Rowling is so incredible with her ability to lay base details to be used later on in the story!

[@Rachel-xg7hs]

I actually really like the idea that the Grangers and Potters might have known each other.

[@AleiahPrice]

I agree ❤this

[@gryffindorhephaestusgirl9999]

Mr Weasley dying would have been more devastating than Lupin also

[@andrewshearsby8125]

Harry ending with Hermione is one she could've kept

[@VTdarkangel]

Not if you want to trio to remain lifelong friends. It would have forced the narrative to focus disproportionately on Harry and Hermione with Ron being a 3rd wheel.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

That wasn't something she ever planned on doing. She only said that due to the negativity she got from people who've only seen the films, and were fooled by all the ridiculous Harry-Hermione stuff from the director of DH P1.

[@andrewshearsby8125]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 she did admit in an interview they'd be better together. Not starting a war just she could've gone through with Harry/Hermione especially in the films where Ginny could be a cardboard cut out, nothing against Ginny's actress but in film canon Harry/Ginny is a stretch to the mind. Oh BTW read the books first

[@imperialinquisition6006]

@@andrewshearsby8125 But in the books the whole h/h thing doesn’t really work at all? I really don’t understand why people feel the need to “ship” characters when what is written makes much more sense. I’ve also heard she didn’t say that in an interview but I haven’t actually checked, some people say she did some people say she didn’t, point is as for what is officially written and published it doesn’t work and significant character alterations would be required to make it work.

[@eamonlyons8069]

No. It was never really an option. How blind are some of the fanbase? Harry and Ginny is implied from book 2. Then reaffirmed in book 4. Then absolutely cemented from book 5. Harry spends so much unnecessary time with Ginny throughout that it's obvious where Rowling was going.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

As each of the last three novels was being prepped for release, I read and received different rumors about certain characters. I seem to recall reading that Remus Lupin was going to overcome being a werewolf and become the permanent defense teacher at Hogwarts school. After the series was finished, I recall reading about how J. K. Rowling eliminated his character at the end to make up for having spared the life of Arthur Weasley, something which was really not necessary. I would’ve preferred if she had kept Remus alive, along with Nymphadora Tonks, and allowed for him to become the permanent defense teacher at Hogwarts. Then, the son they had just had wouldn’t be an orphan.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

I can understand this, however I also like how all the Marauders would eventually be re-united in death, and I can imagine them back together again in the afterlife, young and happy at Hogwarts once more. There's a fanfiction story I read which shows what each dead character chose to do when they died, some moving on into permanent darkness, and others choosing the afterlife, and the afterlife was a version of Hogwarts which also had a room where the dead could continue to view the world of the living from above. James, Sirius and Peter chose the afterlife, and when Peter arrived, he would at first be chased aggressively by James and Sirius, and once cornered, he would be forced to explain why he betrayed them, and eventually convinces James to forgive him. They along with Lily then watch Harry defeat Voldemort, and exist happily again after that, with Remus presumably joining them at some point.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

Thanks for writing about it here, @@dannylagangonzalez6832.

[@brolytriplethreat]

​@dannylagangonzalez6832 I read one that was a series of vignettes about what their "Death/King's Cross" was like. Voldemort's was satisfying.

[@Shred_The_Weapon]

You bet it was,@@brolytriplethreat. Harry got a firsthand look at what was to come when Voldemort finally did end up dying.

[@ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730]

Sirius should have lived to Deathly Hallows and died to Bellatrix during the Battle of Hogwarts instead of Tonks.

[@peggyknecht5551]

I wish she would have decided that Dudley's kids should have magic. It would have given Harry and Dudley something to bond over, and given Dudley's arc even more depth.

[@perfectyoutuber8557]

No. Being magical and having magical abilities is rare in muggle kind. So, we can't have another magical being in the same family. It's better off Dudley's children not having any magic.

[@KeiraH-j1j]

I think it would be interesting. If Hermione’s dad found Harry because then the Grangers would recognize him

[@ladyeliza1969]

I like the idea of Dudley Dursley having a magic child.

[@dishman4694]

I wish she would have kept with Hermiones dad taking Harry to the Dursleys. Because then Hermione would recognize him by 2 reasons for 1.

[@safsren]

I don't know if they would have taken him to the Dursleys because the Grangers in that universe weren't close friends with the Potters it seems, so Harry would have actually been raised in a loving and supportive household

[@Hattie28]

I don't think that Harry should have been close to the Grangers. Isn't there a magic that had Harry safe as long as he was with family? If the Grangers rescued him and they got to know each other, Harry would have wanted to stay with them and that would have been a bad idea.

[@safsren]

"unwavering" loyalty yes, I know I will get flamed but of the 3 times that Harry really needed his friends to stick behind him, Ron abandoned him for two of them

[@Viaphiri]

I’m glad someone said something, I literally laughed out loud as soon as he said that.

[@jakdekayen]

And he came back despite doing so, which is, gasp, unwavering loyalty. Owning up and saying you were wrong and rejoining your friends IS unwavering loyalty, duh.

[@Viaphiri]

@@jakdekayen No, that would just be loyalty, if that. If he had “unwavering” loyalty, he wouldn’t have been so quick to turn on Harry without even getting his side of the story.

[@deborajohnson6440]

Ron thinking HP was smart enough to put his name in goblet, I found disappointing. In the movies, Ron told HP that everyone thought he did it. I always felt that HP should have said, Maybe, but you’re supposed to be my best mate. Then walk away and let Ron stew for a bit.

[@deborajohnson6440]

Seems the only one with unwavering loyalty was HP. Hermione comes in a close second. Ron ain’t even close.

[@karenorgan6203]

The Dagda came to mind (cauldron): “His magic cauldron was known as the coire ansic ("the un-dry cauldron") and was said to be bottomless, from which no man left unsatisfied. It was said to have a ladle so big that two people could fit in it.”

[@wilsonbelle6600]

Dudley having a kid that turned out to be a witch or wizard wouldn't be at all unusual, given it happened in the family before.

[@Samp50]

The end with the words, " all was well" resembles the standard fairytale ending, and then they lived happily ever after.

[@Γιώργος-ΕυγένιοςΤζωρτζίνης]

The whole time machine thing is problematic. It leaves the question: Where is the conscience of Hermione when she attends two classes at the same time? What does her brain perceive? What do her eyes see and ears hear at a given time she has two presences?

[@tymondabrowski12]

She isn't in two places at once according to her brain, she just travels back in time and experiences the same time again, from a different place. It's as if she had 36h in a day instead of 24h.

[@Fuzzycatfur]

All these alterations to cannon through Pottermore but she still can't write a prequel series based around the Maurarders and the first wizarding war.

[@genericuser4162]

tbf, do you want her to? I would love it, but I know she’d make the mauraders a villain to snape, and it would focus on his feelings most likely, making it exhausting to read, not fun.

[@Ben-zr4ho]

If it's not in the text it's not canon...

[@Fuzzycatfur]

@Ben-zr4ho Agreed, but regardless, she's still "writing" for HP and claiming it's canon, yet she won't do anything more than Pottermore.

[@Fuzzycatfur]

@@genericuser4162 Fair.

[@Jinsakai4200]

To be honest that would be kinda cool if Dudley had a magic kid it would bring Dudley and Harry in a way close

[@brianbrady3086]

I kinda like the idea of statues of the four founders choosing students for the houses.

[@sabrinamurray]

She used that idea for illvermory

[@yardknight4953]

Ron dying makes sense. I always wondered how Voldemort never tried to get to Harry through his friends more seriously.

[@cb32134]

He had no true friends of his own so didn’t see them as a threat as he didn’t understand love.

[@Ismail-kv3ex]

@@cb32134didn’t Voldy mock Harry for this exact thing in the 5th book with Sirius? Knowing Harry couldn’t resist “being the hero” and go check on Sirius himself rather then send adults instead, using his personal care for Sirius to bring Harry away from Dumbledores protection Personally, I think it woulda finally make us genuinely hate Voldy and make it truly personal if he killed Ron or even Fred. We all hate Umbridge, arguably more than him, and she didn’t kill nearly as many

[@qwirkt]

Now I want the super dark version of the story where Ron dies halfway through and Hermione goes death eater to get revenge or something. Oh well there’s probably a fanfic or 10 somewhere

[@imperialinquisition6006]

@@qwirkt Except that makes no sense? She would be absolutely devastated but why the hell would she go death eater? Surely in this scenario the death eaters would be the ones that killed him?

[@qwirkt]

@@imperialinquisition6006there have been worse works of fiction, we can suspend our disbelief for a bit. Or just say she wants the power to bring him back

[@MamaMargie]

I would have liked a secret love between Draco & Herminone early on. He would have had to wrestle with his pure blood thoughts.

[@brianmartyn2631]

I wouldn’t have minded if Mr. Granger finding the Potter house in ruins. I am on the fence on him taking home to the Dursleys. Maybe taking him to the Granger home while he went back to go through the ruins further and finding Dumbledore and/or Hagrid. And it would have been interesting if Dudley had a magical child or two. Not to mention how his mother would have reacted.

[@KeiraH-j1j]

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[@tamarasmith9060]

I think it would've been interesting if 1 of Dudley's kids was magical & 1 not. A new generation in the family with the same challenge. But Dudley, knowing how his mom's jealousy caused such a bad break with her sister, would seek Harry's advice to break the cycle & keep his kids from going down the path from jealousy to hate. The cousins would talk more & eventually really understand each other better. Forgive the past, but not forget. Instead talk honestly with all the kids about the past, the lessons they learned & how what's important is that they're family, regardless of which members have magic & which don't. Support each other with love & understanding instead of tearing each other down with jealousy. After all, being a good person is what's most important & you don't have to have magic to do great things in the world. Even among muggles, siblings often inherit different abilities & temperaments, so it's a waste of time & energy being jealous. It's not a competition.

[@kiralana324]

honestly H.Hufflepuffs's horcrux being a cauldron makes more sense, the whole point of a horcrux is that it should be unassuming / blend in, a large clunky cauldron is exactly the "unassuming" item that should be a horcrux, not an easily concealable item

[@charlesbrentner4611]

The ending "all was well." Also leaves the door open for possibilities in future books.

[@mangahell8177]

The four founders ghost being in Hogwarts sounds intresting I wounder how that would reflect the story since Salazar's could answer a few things in COS

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

He would probably pretend to be ignorant as to why the attacks were happening.

[@richewilson6394]

I think JK Rowling succeeded with her idea of having a younger sibling storyline with Colin Crevey and Dennis Crevey. Which was a fine little nod to the Hermione Granger sister storyline.

[@mariacarmen-be4uf]

Ideas for characters: Harry was bipolar. If Snape was Moody 's cousin. If Ron was an animagi . Luna was a seer.

[@maxwellmaxwell3042]

You mean like Ron is actively doing the steps to become an animagus?

[@Ben-zr4ho]

Huh? Dumb fan fic. TikTok y/n silliness.

[@fidogyrenuzanon2335]

I think that she should have at least considered a different option for a few reasons. 1. A cup can represent wealth and prosperity, which seems more akin to the ambition of Slytherin than the hard-working nature of Hufflepuff. 2. A cauldron represents a strong affinity with magic but does not necessarily indicate one’s hard work. 3. Whether the object be portable or not, it can still be transported via magic (such as in a container with an enlargement charm). As such, I don’t find either object to be entirely satisfactory. I think that something like a magical loom or maybe a set of magical sewing needles would have fared as a better item for Hufflepuff and a better horcrux.

[@emakelley6807]

Cups are just as common of a magical item as a cauldron…. It’s the most obvious answer to switch to that. If you understand what cups represent in tarot, part of which being the heart, it seems a proper object to represent Helga Hufflepuff/ Hufflepuff house. And the Triwizard cup which was won by Cedric / Hufflepuff

[@emakelley6807]

Cups are just as common of a magical item as a cauldron…. It’s the most obvious answer to switch to that. If you understand what cups represent in tarot, part of which being the heart, it seems a proper object to represent Helga Hufflepuff/ Hufflepuff house. And the Triwizard cup which was won by Cedric / Hufflepuff

[@delreybaby]

i honestly think the books could have delved deeper into Voldemort’s psyche, his motives, his thought process. I mean Harry has a piece of his soul inside him, the PERFECT narrative tool for that. the justification that he’s evil because of how he was conceived is just so shallow. like he’s one of the most brilliant wizards of all time, who surpassed everyone but dumbledore in power and wit, and he kills everyone “just because”?

[@zanib8880]

What were bin ladens, hitlers, stalins.. list goes on and on, you are just stuffing your thoughts to writers mouth. What was Ripleys motive in Patricia Highsmiths series? What was Saurons motive in Tolkiens sagas? You know, great writers leave you thinking over and over again, that hooks the readers.

[@urlittlewindmill]

I don’t know, I think characters who are simply pure evil can be the most effective. His backstory is so interesting and cool and I think we don’t need any more explanation of his motives or what not

[@sketchtheparadigmyork1217]

Did you read the books? I recall their was more to it.

[@Leonardo-cw1dd]

@@sketchtheparadigmyork1217the half blood prince book is where the heavy dive into voldemort’s past took place. the movie didnt do much there

[@silsilsilly]

My theory is that because voldy's mom had a crush on someone (Tom Riddle sr) who didnt love her back, and she was so heartbroken about it, her mom thought that she would help her son by making him somehow unable to experience love.

[@silsilsilly]

The adventures of dudleys wizarding child would have been an interesting sequel story.

[@JohnDoe-lx3dt]

You say Ron’s unwavering support but I remember two occasions he abandoned Harry. Once he did it with the horcrux corrupting him but the first time he’s just pissed off that he thinks Harry got champion and didn’t tell him how to try, so spite.

[@lullc]

You and nerd of the rings are the best chsnnels imo

[@dawnieangel76]

Why didn't the golden trio use the room of requirement to have the Horcruxes appear? I'm 47, and this is the kind of thing I lay awake at night, thinking about.

[@marekpietruszka3832]

You clearly don't understand how the room works.

[@dawnieangel76]

@@marekpietruszka3832 Hey, I'm not asking why they couldn't ask the room to destroy the Horcruxes, just why they couldn't be there when Harry needed them, as the room appears when someone is in need. 🤷‍♀️ I'm not a casual fan who wants to throw down with anyone more devoted, it was just random musings after the video.

[@marekpietruszka3832]

They couldn't be there when Harry needed them because that's not how the room works. It can conjure things you need to an extent, not teleport already existing objects insinde.

[@jkrause365]

Good video, as always. I truly think that discarding these various plotlines was probably the best choice. From the video, I take it that they collectively or singularly would have unnecessarily cluttered things up a bit. And thank goodness JKR had the wisdom to spare Arthur Weasley!

[@pamela_fay]

I knew some of these, but many were new to me. Thanks for the research!

[@mecahhannah]

Awesome as always thanks

[@seasickviking]

Unwavering loyalty? Ron is about as fairweather as it comes. He literally turns on Harry in some fashion every other book. Chamber of Secrets, Triwizard, Dismissing Draco as Death Eater, abandoning them via Horcrux Hunt? That's books 2, 4, 6 & 7 (literally every other book).

[@genericuser4162]

And even in 3 he refused to talk to Hermione because of Crookshanks for months.

[@clintfowler1526]

When did he turn on Harry in chamber of secrets?

[@RJMiller73]

You start by saying that early on in the creative process, Rowling thought about killing Ron. But the quote you provide by Rowling completely contradicts this. First, it wasn’t early on and second, it wasn’t for creative reasons. I mean the even says the original plan was to have him survive (so not early on) and she thought about killing him out of spite (so not for creative reasons).

[@richewilson6394]

I would have loved to have seen that Dudely's son going to Hogwarts and having Harry's children teach him the ropes. Kind of a middle finger to Vernon and petunia.

[@VTdarkangel]

Petunia could potentially be redeemed by that because of her experience with Lily. Vernon would probably have been horrified because he was so far up his own ass on that, but who knows for certain. Children and grandchildren have a way of often destroying biases in their parents and grandparents that otherwise can't be touched by others.

[@laibakausar8161]

This is the best Harry Potter fan channel to ever exist. 💚

[@Crafty_Spirit]

12:38 Drawing straws... hilarious 😂

[@stevegallo8483]

The subplot involving Dudley having a wizarding child could have been interesting and would have furthered his redemption arc. The scene where Dudley told Harry he didn't think Harry was a waste of space may have been deleted from the movie, but it was in the book. Just imagine the looks on the faces of Vernon and Petunia if Dudley had a son or daughter than ended up going to Hogwarts.

[@zbanul10]

Maybe the last words should have been Harry’s scar hasent hurt in 19 years.

[@Oogie1155]

You keep calling them deleted scenes; but I distinctly remember Dudley shanking Harry's hand in the movie.

[@spencerhulcy727]

I think it was left in for the director's cut or another special release but wasn't in the theater release.

[@zoemoskal9700]

This was a really interesting video!! Thank you for sharing!

[@kaidannies]

one thing i really have to point out: rons unwavering loyalty isn't a thing....looking back at the start of the triwizard tournament AND the horcrux hunt. Hermione ALWAYS stood by harry, ron did not.

[@imperialinquisition6006]

Regardless he’s a very loyal character. The tri wizard tournament was a short and inconsequential argument early on in the series and the horcrux hunt wasn’t really his fault between the locket and Harry(in the book he’s a lot worse than in the movies), and he came back as soon as he could manage it. Technically speaking Hermione doesn’t speak to the other two for a bit in the third book, so it’s only really the horcrux thing if it’s a comparison and again that wasn’t entirely his fault.

[@DeadLogic-bm8rj]

What if Vernon is a distant relitave to one of the the muggles from the witch trials nd the ancestor was responsible for them having to go into hiding

[@76tennboy]

I don’t mind the sorting hat, but I think the ghost idea would be really cool. But do we know anything about the ghost of the original for people? I doubt Slytherin’s ghost is there. Are dead witches and wizards ghosts? What is the parameters to become a ghost?

[@iamhungey12345]

To think "kill the spare" was going to mean Ron.

[@baystated]

I wish the sorting had was destroyed in the final battle, or damaged enough to not be able to sort students so carefully. This would force each house to be more balanced in their supposed attributes and also to split up the students from historically darker families. Instead of the different houses feeding into already established qualities in the students, post-war houses would encourage NEW qualities in them that may have otherwise been left undeveloped.

[@eranshachar9954]

If there is one plot I wish that would have gotten into the books is Mafalda Weasley. And I would have created another plot of my own if I was instead of Rowling. I would have given the pleasure of killing Bellatrix in combat to Andromeda instead of Molly. For anyone who doesn't know- Andromeda Tonks (aka Black) was the sister of Bellatrix and Narcissa. Andromeda married MB wizard Edward (Ted) Tonks by doing so defying the PB supremacy bullshit attitude of her family and was booted out for it. DE killed Ted and Bellatrix killed her daughter Nymphadora. Nothing would have pleased me more if she appeared in the 2nd stage of the battle and took down Bellatrix once and for all.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Add in the fact that Molly killing Bellatrix was ridiculous anyway due to Molly's lack of combat experience. Although, I'm not sure Andromeda had much more than Molly tbh.

[@eranshachar9954]

@@dannylagangonzalez6832 Exactly right about Molly. Molly did a holly job of raising the family. When ever she had a time to prepare for the fight? Molly won thanks for 2 reasons. On normal circumstances she was no where near the level of Bellatrix but: 1.Rage of mama Bear which is obvious. 2.Harry's love protection on his allies. I have a theory that the fanatic PB families like the Blacks are raising their kids to fight, and giving them dark magical tools to use even before Hogwarts. So I wouldn't be surprised if Narcissa and Andromeda are near or on Bellatrix's level assuming my theory is true.

[@Sobeknjord]

Neville also should have gotten that right too if you ask me but yeah, Andromeda did have a good reason to come in and kill Bellatrix or Neville and Andromeda together as they had suffered the most (that we know of).

[@eranshachar9954]

@@Sobeknjord Yes! I agree with these options 100 %. If anything Molly had a personal bill with Dolohov (for killing her brothers) and Rookwood (for killing her son). But Bellatrix didn't do anything direct against the Weaslies until the moment that she nearly killed Ginny.

[@dominaevillae28]

@dannylagangonzalez68 Molly served in the first Wizarding war.

[@BardicheOverhead]

Is that "Vogel im käfig" from attack on titan playing at 7:30? It's the exact same notes

[@davidmarsden192]

J.K. definitely put a lot of care, thought and passion into these stories - and it shows!

[@danieltinch4497]

Ron Weasley dead works well in fanfiction. Especially after J.K. said he shows up drunk to his own wedding with Hermione.

[@hackman669]

Haha 😄 drunk 🥴 Ron 🍸

[@AWX_Wrestling]

Imagine Goblet of fire with a few changes.. The age limit for the Triwizard tournament is 14. Ron decides that he is going to go for it and put in his name. Harry decides against it wanting a quiet year for once and tells Ron this. The champions selection happens. Victor Krum from Durmstrang, Fleur Delacour, Beauxbatons, and quite unexpectedly, Ron Weasley for Hogwarts. Normally older students are selected by the goblet of fire. Ron is elated. For once he is the center of attention instead of Harry. Then the goblet spits out Harry's name stealing Ron's thunder. For a short while Ron irrationally believes that Harry put his name in the goblet until Hermione points out that even if Harry did change his mind and enter his name the goblet. The goblet should have chose one or the other not both. Someone hoodwinked the goblet to make sure Harry is in the tournament. Things remain tense between Ron and Harry. They find themselves in an unfamiliar position competing against one and other. Ron even does a couple of uncharacteristically underhanded things in the name of competition. Most notably he finds out about the dragons from his brother Charlie and decides not to tell Harry. Harry finds out from Hagrid where he also finds out Ron already knew about the dragons and didn't tell him. Harry is furious with Ron and they withdraw from one and other. Ron spends his time with Fred and George while Harry spends his time with Hermione. We get to the maze. Things are a little better between Ron and Harry. They reluctantly trained together for the maze at Hermione's request so she could help prepare them both for it. In the maze Ron saves Harry from a imperused Krum and Harry goes back and saves Ron as he is pulled down by devil's snare on the final leg of the maze. They both get to the cup and Harry tells Ron to take it because Harry wouldn't have made it that far if Ron hadn't saved him from Krum. Ron immediately breaks down similarly to the way Percy breaks down at the end of Deathly Hallows when he comes face to face with his family. Ron beats himself saying he's been a horrible friend to Harry and doesn't deserve to win and he wouldn't have made it either if Harry hadn't come back for him. Harry then say that they should split the victory and both take the cup. Ron regains his composure and agrees. The each grab a handle of the cup and transported to the graveyard. Almost immediately Harry's scar explodes with pain. Ron see Harry grab at his scar and knows what it means. Harry tells Ron to run and he does but Harry is unable to move or see from the pain. Ron hides before Wormtail or Voldermort can see him. Wormtail restrains Harry and starts making the potion that will restore Voldermort to his body. Ron gets as close as he can without drawing attention to himself. The only light source is the fire underneath the cauldron. Ron can't see very well what is happening because of the low light. He doesn't realize that the thing Wormtail threw into the cauldron is Voldermort. Ron stuns Wormtail who is preoccupied with his bloody stump. Ron starts trying to free Harry from his restraints unaware that Voldermort is being reborn right behind him. Harry is still blinded by the pain and has his eyes closed. Harry tells Ron to run and save himself. Ron refuses to leave Harry behind. Voldermort rises out of the cauldron and lands noiselessly next to the unconscious Wormtail. Voldermort calmly picks up his wand and sees Ron trying to free Harry. Just as Ron frees Harry, Harry hears the high, cold voice of Voldermort Voldermort shout "Avada Kedavra" and see the green flash of light through his eyelids. Harry opens his eyes. Ron is staring back at him with a wide eyed shocked expression frozen on his face. Ron then collapses into Harry's arms dead. Harry is beside himself with grief. So much so that he just sits there holding Ron's body as Voldermort summons the death eaters and gives his speech. He is brought out of it by Voldermort mocking Ron's sacrifice. This enrages Harry and the duel begins. When Voldermort's wand regurgitates past spells an apparition of Ron appears and asks Harry to take his body back to his family and to tell Hermione that he's always seen her as a girl and that he wishes he had plucked up the courage to ask her out. He says goodbye to Harry and he and the other apparitions close in on Voldermort providing a distraction for Harry to escape.

[@janinewetzler5037]

Where u mention that Voldemort stole the cup from the Lestrange volt in Gringotts...that would mean, that Hermione, Ron and Harry weren't the FIRST ones to succeed in stealing from the Wizarding Bank.

[@TheLostSoul0]

I'm probably the most curious about the conversations between Malfoy and Nott. I feel like that would have added a lot of compelling context from the other side.

[@luisrios1897]

I would love to see both: • Hermione’s Sister • Ron Dying And the storylines could be intertwine So, her sister would enter hogwarts and sorted in Ravenclaw. Like Hermione she would be very talented, smart and her thirst for knowledge would be bigger than Hermione’s. But that would be her own downfall, she would follow Voldemort , a young prodigy, become a Death Eater. By the time the battle of Hogwarts, she would be facing her former friends, teachers and her own sister. She would be the one to kill Ron, causing Hermione to have to face her and eventually kill her. This would highlight the dangers and consequences of a war and somehow correlate lily and petunia’s relationship to a higher and darker level

[@afjirdodooe1010]

How can a Death Eater be Muggleborn?

[@MrMcNeillNZ]

Ron's unwavering loyalty 😂

[@brianmartyn2631]

While he did leave, he still came back and would have done so if it weren’t for his stubbornness at times.

[@seasickviking]

Unwavering loyalty my arse. He literally turns on his so-called "closest" friends EVERY OTHER BOOK. If Harry didn't have abandonment issues from being an orphan, he should have left thst idiot in the Black Lake.

[@RJMiller73]

Yes, unwavering loyalty. Just because Ron and Harry get mad at each other a couple of times in seven years, doesn’t mean Ron is not loyal. Loyalty does not mean being just a ‘yes man’.

[@RJMiller73]

@@seasickvikingRon never turns on his friends and Harry doesn’t have abandonment issues. Getting angry with friends is not ‘turning on them’ and having your parents get killed is not abandonment.

[@stevenhaas9622]

Ron's unwavering loyalty? Am I the only one who read the 4th and 7th books.

[@imperialinquisition6006]

Yeah and you could basically still say unwavering. The 4th book wasn’t great but was quite a short lived argument and didn’t really have serious consequences and in the 7th book it was more like he was badly affected by the horcrux and was forced out by Harry in a sense, and regardless came back as soon as he could and was fiercely loyal to his companions ever after. So loyalty is quite a thing with Ron’s character.

[@dreadfulspiller8766]

I bet one of Dudley's grandkids is magical but would it depend on how diluted magical blood is.

[@prestonakin6618]

Ron dying would be better than his fate in 'The Cursed Child'

[@TysonVincent-ks4zw]

To be honest, I think if Harry Potter could have been a bit more violent The hands down it would be the greatest story ever told

[@baldrian22]

maybe something like "mending scars" would have been good? it would indicate that there is still scars etc in the world but they are healing

[@TheDeliveryMoogle]

So this came to me yesterday while i was watching the video on the 22 brooms in harry potter. So the elder wand is the only known wand that can repair other wands do you think the elder wand could repair brooms like harry's nimbus 2000 because i remember this being a thing lupin asked harry if there was a chance his broom could be fixed

[@arabellamileham9978]

And yet she then added the cursed child, completely undermining that peace and resolution!

[@AleiahPrice]

I like hermiones dad saving Harry too❤❤❤

[@joodzXIII]

hi, I've been watching your videos for a while and I've finished all the books and I'm on my second reading. I had a sudden request of you to talk about what if cedric didn't die? This would be based off an idea simply that Cedric and krums roles are reversed, and Cedric is alive at the end of the fourth book. This is just my own thoughts for that What if; I think Cedric would have a very prominent role in the DA, I think that him and Harry would've gotten very close to the point of being best mates, and would eventually help them in the endeavors against the death eaters.

[@eduardobarrera4196]

Other plot line was that the Weasleys were suppose to have a slytherin cousin and that she would have help them in chamber of secrets

[@dakotalange2858]

What if the Lucius and the Malfoys were double agents with Snape (Not saying they aren’t snobs or anything but they are really looking out for their family and themselves and playing both sides help benefit them the greatest)

[@Ben-zr4ho]

No. Hate it. The fact Rowling let Draco off the hook and seemingly Lucius as well was bad enough. Draco did enough for a lifetime Azkaban sentence. Seems like being a Death Eater alone was practically enough after the first war to get a lengthy Azkaban sentence. Unless there were extenuating circumstances like Snape going over before the war ended and being a double agent or Karkaroff snitching on everyone and Karkaroff went to Azkaban and it seems like he barely avoided a life sentence. Hell Draco used Unforgivable Curses and that's supposed to an automatic life sentence...

[@Ben-zr4ho]

All these Draco simps in Gen Z and Alpha is dumb

[@MarshWaha]

I do kind of like the idea of the Grangers and the potters being acquainted with each other or better yet even being friends. But I do like the idea that the Grangers would come to the Aid of the potters. That would’ve been really cool and it would’ve made Hermione and Harry’s friendship stronger.

[@ElitheScienceGuy416]

#4 I love the idea of two rival bulies in draco and nott

[@Erica_Brenda]

I think if Ron had not survived, the books and movies would have failed. He is a key character and as was Dumbledore, Harry could not succeed if Dumbledore lived. Ron on the other hand was pivotal.

[@saintzeroinfinity]

One of Dudley’s kids could’ve been an obscurial.

[@maxwell9211]

I think the reason for cutting Dudley’s wizard kid is kinda BS. Like she sacrificed the development of one character to spite another. Plus I think it would be the ultimate retribution for Dudley and punishment for Vernon if there was a Dursley wizard

[@nicoleackerman205]

It could happens since a squib would have been in the Evans family at one time.

[@sewnmind1786]

Woman's the opposite of Araki. He decided that he wouldn't make one of his characters a traitor cause he couldn't handle the thought of it at the time while Rowling is just looking for a reason to drop a ginger apparently.

[@cultmeetingpodcast]

Would’ve been dope if it ended with the chorus of that Marilyn manson song “whatever doesn’t kill you is gonna leave a scar”

[@trolletuva]

Ted Tonks was a good father. And Hermiones father. And Hagrids father. They were not given as much space as Arthur but they were good. JKR didn't have to kill F Fortesque. He could have been imprisoned and survived to continue to sell ice cream in Diagon Alley. I liked him.

[@TheElectricSheep]

Unwavering loyalty...???

[@KeiraH-j1j]

Wow!! Some of these are very interesting and some of them are very sad

[@thirdcoastfirebird]

The way I see the first one on the list is a tool for fanfiction writers to take how they see fit. I am planning on taking Ron down that road, but in those stories he isn't the character we know and love (or hate).

[@christinedaae7323]

I really wish Sirius Black could’ve survived The Battle of The Department of Mysteries. That would’ve been stupendous!

[@AegisOfFreedom]

Interesting.. I think that, at the end of the day., though, JK Rowling made good choices regarding the flow of the story. I'd still like to see a version with a death of one of the trio and how much darker the story would seem (don't get me wrong, however, I'm glad wrong is still alive). I have a question though; What's the soundtrack used in the video? The one played around 7:25 in particular

[@andrewcomerford264]

Ron's death would, at least, have prevented the hatchet-job the films did on him.

[@Ottped]

4:15 thought you meant when he appeared in Knockturn Alley

[@NoneofyourBusiness-iv6pi]

Ron dying would have been better for the story. I would have also have liked at least 1 of dudley's kids being magical....the whole muggle borns are descended from squibs that JK said publicly could have been explored with Petunia and dudley being declared squibs etc. Lily just lucked out that her magical blood/genes from the squib line she descended from became active while Petunia's remaind dormant = squib. Plus the meeting between Petunia asking Harry for help for her grandchild = money / mentor in the magical world

[@diversitydiversity-r8n]

thanks for the run down

[@Sobeknjord]

I think Ron dying would have been more impactful on Harry. Also Dudley having a magical son or magical children would have been a way to further his and Harry's character growth. The Potters living on a remote island makes a lot more sense than living on the mainland with Voldemort after them.

[@edi9892]

It is an intriguing glimpse at the creative process and how her mental state affected her writing. I do believe that many artists are in an unhealthy mental state, more specifically bipolar. There's something about the experience of pain and extreme mood swings that can result in creative chaos, especially when coupled with a manic productive phase... I do think that most of these cuts and changes were justified, but I do wish that: 1) Draco Malfoy was fleshed out a bit more beyond being an antagonist. BTW: I'm really happy with the complex nature of Snape and the shady role of Dumbledore. 2) Dudley's redemption. 3) A bit more on the interface between muggles and mages, as there are many plotholes and questions left open... Giving Hermione a sister or Phineas a bigger role would be neat if it doesn't conflict with the plot, but they're not necessary and thus an unnecessary complication. I do see the merit and danger of killing Ron and I do think that it's better that his dad survived, albeit scarred. Lastly, having a coincidence connecting the Grangers with the Potters would probably feel a bit forced. It would have been better if other muggles had found him, or just leave it with Hagrid...

[@Jenifer_R_]

The idea that the last word was scar was floated as a leak. I think it was just Rowling taking her book back.

[@KamenRiderGumo]

I would have much preferred it if Ron had died. Neville could have easily filled in the spots where a third was needed, but also been detachable enough from them that Harry and Hermione could have had more solo adventures, not to mention end up together.

[@dannylagangonzalez6832]

Ginny could have also filled in the spot, and it could have led to them getting together sooner. They'd have had different timetables etc with her being a year younger but she still could have partaken in a lot of stuff with Harry and Hermione.

[@davidmarsden192]

11:54 I'm a Hufflepuff. LOL

[@bailatwerski2951]

Theodore Nott being an adversary for Draco Malfoy even his better is something I would love to have seen!!

[@AleiahPrice]

No Draco was better

[@zero11010]

I'm only partway through ... wouldn't a plot need to be introduced to be abandoned? This doesn't seem to meet the criteria.

[@Warzulu77]

As much of an amazing writer JK is, she seriously has a problem when it comes to killing characters of. I have no doubt the legacy of Harry Potter is unique and unlike any other in terms of its greatness, I think it really would’ve been tarnished if she had spent so many years constructing a beautiful world of characters and magic just to end the lives of so many. People would look back on the series and regard it as ‘the series that could’ve been..’

[@Killdoomrodar]

I like the idea of Dudley having a magical son

[@Ben-zr4ho]

Yeah we were definitely told the last word was going to be "scar." Remember that much...

[@Ben-zr4ho]

Rowling said that in like the 90s... Like 1999 I think.