Harsh Reality of BEAUTY STANDARDS | GET REAL S4 EP19

[@DIVEpods]

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[@Indigenousgirl98]

Yassss so relevant talking about these topics! Especially colourism,me being a multi mixed asian i used to be tanned but now im quite pale😂 and theres the questioning of what your supposed to look like depending on skin colour. And the body weight...asian mums tho 🤣💀 asians dont raisin Were all blessed just the way God made us🥰💖

[@Luckypianolover8]

It was fun to watch it, especially when the guys need to guess the products. 😂😂 Can’t wait for the next episode. 🥰😄😊

[@denise94]

Loved it as always! These 4 are 🔥 BM looks like a teenager by the way.. 😂😂

[@kari_1306]

Such a really good episode !! ❤

[@LilyLilay]

After watching this episode I feel Koreans do a little too much for the beauty standards. I doubt many countries take it that seriously.

[@ashleybchoi]

don’t ask me about trends boys… i don’t really know either 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@seongxmo]

bichna??

[@theaaaaaaaa]

When you started explaining at 5:10 about kids these days, I was so scared you were gonna say something weird like the hot water boiling faster thing! 😅

[@leastselfawarepotassium]

Very demure, very mindful.

[@btslesserafimtxt]

"who you're trying to look good for?" 😅😅😅 I burst out laughing when BM asked that 😅😅😅

[@kinnytramell]

Oh don’t worry, we won’t!

[@Melontannie27]

I hope this podcast continues for many seasons! Everyone hates the podcast influx that came to social media but this is the only one that the community benefits from listening in. Thanks for bringing this content forward, thanks to producers and our hosts!

[@DIVEpods]

🥹❤️

[@gimmeasalad]

Did you realize that Peniel is the only one of the boys with a sister and he's getting all of the girl stuff right?! Freaking love him.

[@ayeshamanh]

BM : "Is this an earthquake " peniel: "no its just my leg" 💀💀💀

[@pinkcloud8182]

how californian of bm 😂

[@erroljoseph3864]

Peniel is back. He is looking extra good. Love the hair.

[@SailorEmilyCrystal]

Since When Did Peniel Started Growing Hair?

[@dianaosazenaye1313]

Yep

[@SailorEmilyCrystal]

I Said Since When Did Peniel Started Growing Hair?

[@lychee23]

i think he's been growing his hair for some time now

[@donsenorperrojronimin9043]

​@SailorEmilyCrystal He just let it grow each time it grows😅 he has alopecia because of stress but when he get better he let his hair grow, he seems to be in great shape now even his eyebrows cameback 😭

[@wanamakiko4576]

The boys talking over Ashley then Junny soothingly saying sorry... CUTE!!!

[@norman6993]

... just wish kpop idol companies would prioritize their idol's health more and not just all about aesthetics... like finding the right balance..

[@glorianamultistan]

Junny... his arms... his face, he looks so hug-able right now, crying

[@barrysdiary4288]

No because I went from watching so many shorts to now becoming obsessed with this podcast 😭😭 I love it so much now 🫶🏽

[@akritimehta2390]

ussssssssssssss

[@walteroram3611]

Yeah same bro remember only five stars only 😂

[@barrysdiary4288]

@ of course that’s the only thing this podcast deserves!! Five stars 😤. Also I am scared Ashely would come for me if I don’t 😂😂😂 rate it five stars !

[@juno_aunty]

Welcome back Peniel to the podcast! So funny when BM and Junny were waiting in anticipation for what Ashley's theory on sports/fitness and relationship to growth is. A side note, I knew a body builder woman who explained to me that the tanning and body oil is done for everyone no matter how light or dark your skin tone is because it enhances the look of your muscles making your score higher.

[@Ayveh]

Interesting, I always wondered about that whenever I would see body building pics or clips. I would be so confused as to why some would be so tanned and brown while competing yet super pale or not tanned or even brown for that matter while not competing.

[@shaquicedacosta]

Some friends used to compete. It would irritate me so much cause they didn't put the tanning oil on their face 😂 the sharp line between face and neck.

[@juno_aunty]

@@shaquicedacosta I have thought maybe make up would be used, but I guess it is not.

[@juno_aunty]

@@Ayveh I wasn't sure about the reason behind the tanning prior to the conversation I had with the bodybuilder, but once it was explained to me, it made more sense.

[@yourstrulyamree8329]

Junny apologing multiple times for talking over Ashley, a true gentlemen!! the boys always prioritize Ashley, I love them!!

[@zephylee8669]

"Oh, welp, sucks for you." - Peniel Why am I wheezing?🤣🤣

[@OrchidsAndKpop127]

Loved this episode, I loved how they just talked so openly about everything like they always do

[@graceandgracealone5140]

Yes, loved that too them being so open, no judgments 🥹

[@kevinwang9346]

Just letting people know that BBL surgery has the highest mortality rate for ANY cosmetic surgery (1/3000). This is something I wouldn't recommend to anyone and if you want a bigger butt just start squatting.

[@leighnicole100]

I would watch an entire episode of the boys guessing women's products. Ashley laughing at them as they just went so into left field with some of the responses was also me. This was amazing 😂😂

[@Hope99129]

Hey, Dive family! Thank you for this episode, I think it's great to talk about all the subjects you touched on today. It makes me so sad to learn after it's already happened about all the terrible things kpop singers, and singers around the world, have been put through just to meet asthetic standards. I'm twenty-three and entering into the music field. I've always loved music, but I didn't learn how to sing or play instruments when I was a kid, so I'm starting a little later. I often feel like twenty-three is "too old" to be learning from scratch when the music industry wants only young people. I also sometimes feel very self-conscious because of the beauty standards. But at the end of every day, I love the body I've been given, and I don't want to surgically or chemically change it just to try to fit in with a company. It's just not me. I want to encourage anyone else out there who feels self-conscious, too, to love yourself as you are and continue pursuing your dreams.

[@DIVEpods]

❤️

[@mellalie4639]

I love it when Eric ads pop up exactly after they talked about alien. 🤣🤣🤣 seems like the podcast being hacked by Aliens 🤣

[@dadivacatbagan7028]

Hahahah! 🤣🤣 Yes!

[@StarFireWaveNight]

AYYYY WELCOME BACK PENIEL

[@dorianeb1405]

BM "I'm just a boy I'm sorry", the game segment was so funny 😂

[@todayis_Rachaa]

I swear Ashley is the Cherry on the cake of this shoooooooow

[@fi5688]

The skin tone thing is prominent and has the same origins in the black community too! I didn't know we relate on this. The more you know

[@kingmanic]

In Asia it's classism then Racism. In the US it's Racism then classism.

[@fi5688]

@@kingmanic yepp

[@l0velyfl0wer]

@@kingmanicI don’t think it’s racism, it’s colourism. They’ll do it against their own race too.

[@emublue]

it used to be similar in the uk too, until being tanned meant you were rich enough to afford to go on holiday someplace sunny

[@kunsile]

I love how also the boys are so honest with what they had done beauty treatment wise!

[@jacqueline2121]

We appreciate the more than a hour long episodes ❤❤❤

[@anggadextrous68]

Peniel knowing a lot of the female products is actually so sexy of him. I wish more men strives to be more like Peniel: these are all general knowledge of the human body; it's not a taboo thing to talk about!

[@beyondthesurface09]

Lol

[@lizavoda7311]

Amen to that

[@JanKut]

😂

[@lisatobleman7318]

Ok my daughter is a level 10 gymnast (Jr in HS) Joint issues are caused by impacts yes, but the delayed growth of bones has to do with the density of muscles. And most kids shoot up several inches as soon as they retire (if growth plates are not closed) so it’s called delayed maturity of bones (and you need to be training close to 24+ hours a week to get the delayed thing) plus, gymnastics favors short kids so you don’t see tall gymnasts that often.

[@karenkatequilat9881]

BM soooo innocent and then there's Peniel who knows everything. 😂😂😂 I LIKE THE GAME AT THE END. 😂😂😂 mooooooooooooore!!!!

[@jwlbc97]

BM is so cute when he’s so clueless hhaha 😂

[@LotsOfLove4Music]

hearing them briefly talk about birth control and sex was so surprising yet refreshing lol thank u for staying real yall

[@pronouncedmy]

Welcome back Peniel! I’ve missed you! This was a good episode. The quiz was so funny 😂 I loved it.

[@aewenien4774]

They really got real at this ep🤣

[@riyakumar1568]

these 4 never fail to make me smile, i love them :)

[@mia8391]

I am glad that Peniel is back!!! Love you guys 🤩

[@HiddenPGZ]

NOT EVERYONE AND ASHLEY THINKING THE CURLING IRON WAS A VIBRATOR SNSKSKDKDKSKSKDJSNANDJXJDJSMSKDNZ

[@quynhnguyen21424]

I need an episode of them trying the menstrual pain device 👀

[@Mimi-vk8vj]

Love that peniel is back . Why no one said anything..we definitely missed you and love the hair situation..hope your good and healthy ❤❤❤❤

[@jhicoconut]

YOOOOOOOW WELCOME BACK PENIEL!

[@nathanp2007]

From an American POV: the USA (and West) suck in a ton of ways, many are the same as SK, but man the beauty standards in SK are just turned up to 11 it seems. It's such a massive turn-off as someone who consumes SK content. Heroine chic being the body type that is in, the colorism against darker skin tones, the massive amount of plastic surgery/beauty procedures, the AWFUL veneer getting trend (curious to see if they mention it in this episode, I'm only half way through), the

[@IllaLuna17]

I was telling my daughters, we are all Kpop fans and Asian dramas fans. That Asians try to show off their beauty but they are getting surgery to look like another nationality. Smaller faces, pointy slimmer noses, pale skins, contacts, bleached or lighter hair, Like makes no sense.

[@peachxtaehyung]

​@@IllaLuna17 it's not that they're ashamed or anything of being Asian they're just trying to fit the standards. Alot of countries have exact same standards

[@pearinsomnia9188]

@@IllaLuna17 they do not want to look like another nationality, leave that tired take back in 2010. What they want to achieve is a specific kind of *very Korean* beauty, and they’ve just slowly added standards to that image that the western world adopted with the rise of the Kardashians (like a focus on having a shapely butt instead of just being thin). Korean beauty standards are still more similar to Chinese ones, which are still more comparable to Arabic standards (pale, slender) than European. It’s an unreal image that’s unattainable for the average Korean, but it’s even less attainable for your average westerner because it’s not a beauty ideal based on western features.

[@hanakhoirunnisa1898]

Yash Ashley 💅 very demure 💅 our slay queen

[@yannerioflorido4806]

Welcome back Peniel❤ 😊

[@B.ELLAMusic]

Yay! I’m able to catch this episode when they just release it! ❤

[@aly_jank]

Trigger warnings have helped me in the past, so I appreciate that Ashley did that with such a sensitive topic ❤

[@TruceLucid]

I felt Peniel's "Nice, I'm above average" in my soul.

[@samuraik-o8s]

Thank you guys for speaking so candidly about your personal experiences with k-beauty and entertainment standards 💕

[@valeriaarias483]

Love the episode today, u guys are my safe place ❤🇨🇱

[@anonymousalien2.080]

Ashley: what is that in cm *SHES ASKING THE RIGHT QUESTIONS HERE YALL*

[@lisatobleman7318]

Hey my favorite show and hosts are all together again.

[@ma_k99]

They all look so fine in today's ep but Ashley sweetie Ur hairstyle with the earing took the cake ♡

[@yoongy1]

Oh I couldn't take my eyes off BM's hair the whole episode. It's so cool. This episode was nice for sure , the whole cast is looking good . Welcome back Peniel .

[@wanamakiko4576]

My Favorite Podcast mentioning one of my favorite channels! 😭😭. Yasssss! @smoshpit is my fav. With Shane reading bedtime reddit stories? Yes!

[@spinno3238]

I GOT SO EXCITED WHEN THEY MENTIONED SMOSH 😭

[@LedgieBear22]

I think you guys handled the topic so well. I love how relatable and real you always are ❣

[@thedrawerkring]

Yooo Peniel is baack love the HAIR! Niiice

[@tamalahale6160]

Great episode, welcome back Peniel!

[@DebM88]

The entertainment industry is very demanding regarding looks no matter where you go, but the Korean entertainment industry is on another level. What they do to men is brutal, but what they do to women is straight up CRIMINAL. I am VERY slender and I have tiny boobs. I workout hard 3 times a week and have almost no fat, it's mostly muscle, I'm a little over 5'3'' (161.5 cm) and I weigh 55 kg. There is NO healthy way for a woman that is 5'6'' or 5'7'' to be under 50kg, especially if they have a good size bust like many kpop idols do...

[@paeawg7967]

welcome back Peniel. you look great!!!

[@Mimi-vk8vj]

I would love to have someone like peniel in my life such a lovely, kind and unique person 🥰🥰

[@hiiinini]

I listened to the podcast and then I had to watch the video 😅 I needed to see their facial expressions, much love ☁️

[@xueying2210]

Always love it when the gang reunites ❤ and everyone is looking fab !

[@triggerken30]

I agree with Junny that people view us Millenials and Gen Z as old. I am like we are that not old. It mostly why we don't use social media that much as we use to in the past.

[@whatever6189]

I love love the four of them ❤❤ My favorite thing after work is listening to them talk .

[@LSYJ_.l]

I love this type of conversations, this is the only podcast i listen to. They are so entertaining

[@I_am_Lauren]

I agree with Ashley about the trigger warning. I support you girl! I'll click away from something if I'm not in the right head space.

[@SavannahYost-w4q]

BM little “No okay” at 56:54 is so cute and funny. 💕

[@iCy_youseeme]

Peniel would have been a really good fighter. Perfect body for fighting

[@FofifiFlfre]

His natural head Bob would work wonders for his defence as well.

[@micodelic21]

Yep I agree, Junny's looking younger nowadays.

[@al_wuvyu99]

IUD is an intrauterine device or commonly called a spiral, shaped like the letter T. It is inserted into the vagina without anesthesia. Depending on the pain tolerance of each person, it can vary, but many say it hurts and aches. Like menstrual pain but worse because the vagina is not opened naturally. But IUD is really recomend to use because its not effect hormonal on women, not like pills or implant and you can use it to 3/5/ 10 years old deppends on what brand you use

[@PinkRose0910]

You meant the cervix, I believe. It’s goes to the uterus through the cervix.

[@snowyumi]

Oooooo Peniel with the hair is doing something to me 🥴 KEEP IT PLS

[@shruthimaniyodath7755]

Love they watched Smosh in the old YT days as well!😅❤ Smosh is still and thriving guys. Love what they're doing on all their different channels.

[@rosalinmaryrose3023]

They look so well and good especially Peniel. I'm loving how he is so looking young and fit. ❤

[@nnakbaba]

PENIEL IS BACKKK🎉🎉

[@aseeyuuuh]

Always a fun episode when they're complete!

[@katsugi7]

11:38 deja vu from season 1 beauty standards ep 🤭

[@zoepark3163]

Love how open and judgement-free this episode was

[@abs____]

I know the current ones are part of a deal and trend. Tho also partially of aesthetics. But I remember an episode from Boss in the Mirror, I think the Esteem NYC ep, where Coach Hyun mentioned that it’s beneficial for basketball players to paint their nails (even if it’s just the clear ones).

[@yokshiichicago7712]

They've already covered this topic and it was long ago and I'm surprised that little to nothing changed

[@deborasoaressilvaacademico]

Brazilian over here and yes, what you guys know as brazilian waxing is because in Brazil we remove all the pubic hair (front and back) 😅

[@sanvednagautam3839]

Nothing can beat get real for being a relaxing therapy!!!

[@Kaeldra3]

The dynamic and conversation was really good- fun to listen to!

[@jimbojimbo6873]

Weight lifting outside of things that risk significant injury to the spine promotes height maintenance, the deterioration of the muscles ruins posture and likewise bones. It helps offset you shrinking rapidly at old age

[@namename6280]

Lmaoo junny being like bm would i look good w nail polish and then bm being like SHOWING CLEAVAGE

[@vp804]

in the PH, tho some ppl sre doing some procedures but ppl still find it negative, like, you know the pride of having natural beauty, no matter how you look, as long as it's natural, ppl prefer it than encouraging ppl to do some procedures, like, it's not like everyone firmly disgrees, some will just dont mind your business, whatever u do, but majority would say, u need to fix your insecurities, by healing yourself, not by satisfying others, a lot of experts and even influencers, supports body positivity, instead of changing some abt your body, just be confident of your own body, your own face, parents even teach their kids to be confident of what features they have, and not be encouraged with those procedures

[@vp804]

i just don't know where's this natural beauty thing came from 😂 like we have so much pride abt being natural, like especially when ppl will say “everyone in your family is pretty:handsome“😂 like we take pride abt it 😂

[@vp804]

At the same time, even armpit hair, stretchmarks, scars, discolorations especially for women, are shown by influencers & celebrities in the philippines, it's like normalizing those things bc we're human, don't be a plastic that's lifeless

[@abyrne2987]

We need more girlies on the pod ❤

[@brithoman3900]

It’s so interesting that Korean culture is to flaunt your wealth (eg. Wearing brands so openly). I more would be thinking they are like mid tier wealthy trying to show themselves as super rich if they did that because I think at least in my culture if you are actually wealthy it’s rude to show it off and also what are you trying to prove? True wealthy people just dress well.

[@laurennichols2994]

I seriously always thought Peniel was over 6 foot! I am shook! Also, glad to have him back!

[@Jajahahahjajyswe0923]

Ahh the game segment was too good 😂😂 and I really enjoyed topic

[@DestinyK-u3h]

I was literally just stalking dives KZbin shorts 😂

[@Judeduarte6]

Loved this episode ! Thank you ! It's so funny and interesting !

[@xwhy888]

It's crazy how they were talking about plastic surgeries as something they wouldn't do and were shocked to learn that certain procedures even exist, yet they went on to mention having some work done lmao

[@quiteweirdbutnotreally]

To what I have heard, they just don't want surgeries that required bone restructuring to be normalized. Besides, the procedure that they have undergone was just a removal of excess fats under their eyes that makes them look tired. There is nothing that modified their actual features.

[@sevss]

“anyways” -Ashley

[@dianaosazenaye1313]

Welcome back peniel!!

[@genieldoblados6676]

Why they cut off when Ashley was explaining the female product shapes.. that part is intriguing. They should release that partttt

[@kristagreer1667]

SMOSH MENTIONED 👀👀 MY WORLDS ARE COLLIDING ❤

[@winwinlatin]

I'm literally watching this after watching today's smosh pit video 😂

[@Purxlenyu]

WELCOME BACK PENIEL

[@terrieBTSOT7]

Love you pod cast!

[@wanamakiko4576]

Eric just popped outta nowhere! 😂😂😂. Yoh. Love this man.

[@DarkHarlequin]

Am I the only one who thinks it´s already a statement that everybody on the Podcast here had multiple beauty surgeries even though everyone here has a pretty open minset and are pretty critical of the unreallistic beauty standards . Doesn´t that kinda show how normalized is has become in korea? I´m from Europe and I don´t think I know a single person who had any beauty related surgery 🤔 F**** beauty standards are a thing in the west too for sure but from what they are saying it feels way more ingrained in Korea.

[@spillthattea88]

Where did you see that all of them have had cosmetic surgeries? I'm pretty sure none of them have had cosmetic surgeries. Their faces all still fit American beauty standards more than Korean beauty standards. I'm sure some of them for their work get skin treatments or injections like Ashley mentioned but that's not surgery

[@alienmallows]

FINALLY A NEW EPISODE 😭🤍🤘🏻🙌🏻

[@vj7393]

Peniel rocked, Ashley shocked 🤌🏽🤌🏽

[@maraujo696]

Being from South America, having that Sun kissed skin is the synonym of health and beauty. The swarmy complexion is also loved around here.

[@staybyheart9021]

The reality is that many guys go to the gym and super work out because they think girls like it when they have a lot of muscle, but actually most girls don't find it attractive, muscular and lean would be best for most women. Cause if you are huge like bodybuilders it doesn't look healthy either.

[@najeehudaa1676]

Junny is so underrated