Harvard Students Argue Against Veganism

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Earthling Ed

Earthling Ed

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@moltzdustin
@moltzdustin 5 жыл бұрын
Regardless of where the people you to talk to stand on the issue of veganism, you sure get them thinking more about it which is where everyone needs to start.
@peathedisneyfanmediacorner6160
@peathedisneyfanmediacorner6160 5 жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I'm thinking!
@mexicanmuslim
@mexicanmuslim 5 жыл бұрын
👏👏👏👏
@infiniteoptimal
@infiniteoptimal 5 жыл бұрын
100% this is so true.
@Starry_Night_Sky7455
@Starry_Night_Sky7455 5 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, I want to click that like button bec it's Earthling Ed stirring up thought here. I cant click the like button because the title bugs me. Just be empathetic. Go vegan. I'm not about to go all out wordy over-analyzing such an obvious ethical choice I can make in a split second.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Bonnie Hundley Different people come from different walks of life. It’s very possible that if we grow up as they grew up, with the same beliefs instilled in us, the same family, cultures and religious beliefs, we’d be as defensive as they are. That’s why we need patience and empathy, not just for animals, but for others.
@CaelanDeJager
@CaelanDeJager 5 жыл бұрын
Do this at Oxford, and then reference the Oxford Study supporting veganism.
@graceallen7542
@graceallen7542 5 жыл бұрын
Caelan De Jager great idea
@skyehap
@skyehap 5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@MrFooChops
@MrFooChops 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea!
@Babycakes_2001
@Babycakes_2001 5 жыл бұрын
And oxfords policy on animal testing 😡
@PokemonTenLV
@PokemonTenLV 5 жыл бұрын
@@CaelanDeJager the one supporting veganism in the matter of reducing the carbon footprint? because that one alone is severely flawed, nothing is taking into account the number of animals that would continue living a 18-22 year lifespan, breeding continuously and producing methane which is 80 times more potent of a greenhouse gas than Co2. along with their need for vegetation as well as 8 billion people needing vegetation daily to keep with the negative nutrient (antinutrient) affect of eating only plants. and all the land needed to grow these crops, and since we cant kill anything, it invites plague-like infestations of crop destroying and disease carrying insects that could lead to famine and starvation.. you live in a lala land where you think theres this utopian future because you have the mental capacity of a child.
@vegahimsa3057
@vegahimsa3057 5 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that they at least thought a bit before answering questions. I guess that's why they're at Harvard.
@joe_laird
@joe_laird 5 жыл бұрын
@biscuit idk man i hate the stereo type that good univeristies= no common sense, just following instructions. to get into harvard or oxbridge u need to be an abstract thinker, im willing to bet students at the top unis are more likely to be vegan than others, or at least they are more open to it and logical.
@dragonskylords9032
@dragonskylords9032 5 жыл бұрын
You look at all the brightest thinkers throughout history and I guarantee very very few of them went to college. College is great for people wanting to fit into society, soak up propaganda, and come out with a degree that will make them a lot of money (15 years after they pay off their debt)
@Situayo
@Situayo 5 жыл бұрын
@@dragonskylords9032 You speak from experience or envy?
@joe_laird
@joe_laird 5 жыл бұрын
@@dragonskylords9032 honestly mate, smart people go to college, and smart people dont go to college. plenty of amazing peopple went and did not go to college. also soaking up propoganda?? wth lol. your comment is really really generalising lol
@theoneatyourdoor87
@theoneatyourdoor87 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's the age group. Younger people have to think about those questions because they have not formed an opinion on it yet. Older people give faster answers because they have already justified their actions to themselves.
@sakidickerson
@sakidickerson 5 жыл бұрын
Harvard people seem to enjoy these kinds of questions and thought explorations more than other campuses you've been on. That one guy was really having fun with the questions presented, this was awesome to watch.
@engymaster
@engymaster 5 жыл бұрын
@a a Just curious... if your beliefs have been challenged, then what is holding you back from giving veganism a go?
@engymaster
@engymaster 5 жыл бұрын
@a a fair enough. I appreciate your honesty! You follow and listen to ed, so there's probably nothing I can say on the issue that you haven't heard already. Just keep educating yourself and I hope someday that it all clicks for you. It really is an awesome way to live! All the best.
@miaclifton
@miaclifton 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say they’re enjoying it. To me, it looks like they wanna crawl out of their skin.
@miaclifton
@miaclifton 5 жыл бұрын
“Fair enough”? Not really! It’s just his selfish personal choice. I wouldn’t say it’s fair, and I wouldn’t say it’s enough.
@engymaster
@engymaster 5 жыл бұрын
@@miaclifton ok, I admit, poor choice of words. But I highly doubt your agitated response is going to help change this guy's way of thinking. Maybe leave that for the cool, calm and collected, Ed, eh? Cheers.
@margarett_b
@margarett_b 5 жыл бұрын
I bloody LOVE how you interview people. It is incredible! You do not make them feel bad or anything. You just make them THINK. And that has a potential to change absolutely everything. Thank you for such a beautiful, calm and understanding form of activism!
@wersli96
@wersli96 5 жыл бұрын
Małgorzata Bukowczyk right? I admire Ed so much for that!
@danielche2349
@danielche2349 4 жыл бұрын
Yep! I think other vegan activists need to learn this from Ed
@trippytofu
@trippytofu 5 жыл бұрын
wow i’m very intrigued by the vegetarian dude! instead of answering from his own personal beliefs (clearly he doesn’t approve of killing animals because he’s veg) he tried to put himself in the shoes of a non-vegan/vegetarian. not gonna lie i was expecting the standard “animals aren’t here for us” type of answers. love your videos so much, ed! they are so genuinely thought provoking. my friend (who was originally trying veganism for a month) actually decided to stay vegan & i think your videos made a huge impact on his decision! and the bomb vegan mac&cheese i make may have helped influence him as well haha;)
@appalachiananthropocene5958
@appalachiananthropocene5958 5 жыл бұрын
Deanna Was Yue
@MeJustAimy
@MeJustAimy 4 жыл бұрын
yaaaay so happy your friend stayed vegan^^
@SagaciousSix
@SagaciousSix 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you gently lead them down the path to awareness.
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
He is building a frame of reference that fits his dogma, that is not the same as awareness. Religious preachers use the same tactics, for those who are mentally challenged and are not used to think for themselves this may act as a trap.
@SagaciousSix
@SagaciousSix 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 I disagree. Ed is allowing them to contradict themselves through his questioning without calling them out on it. You should watch more of his videos.
@pozxcety56
@pozxcety56 3 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 these people are atHarvard, don’t compare it to religious preachers manipulating people who are mentally challenged.
@FlipsMG
@FlipsMG 5 жыл бұрын
Funny how when you go to an institution known for higher education suddenly the conversations lead much more logically and coherently, with open minds.
@TyrellFrye
@TyrellFrye 5 жыл бұрын
Great job Ed! I've been Vegan for over a year now and even made a channel to spread recipes! Keep it up 🌱
@figgledoi
@figgledoi 5 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed👍👍👍
@TyrellFrye
@TyrellFrye 5 жыл бұрын
ball day wow thank you so much!
@larsonpark3819
@larsonpark3819 5 жыл бұрын
Tyrell, for what it's worth, I've compiled a list of the typical lines you'll hear, and probably have heard, from people. Feel free to share or ignore any of these points: Vegans and vegetarians are often challenged with a similar series of scoffs, criticisms and misnomers. Here’s a summary of the typical lines with rational rebuttals: A: If you don’t eat meat, you’ll become weak and deficient. B: That’s totally untrue. In fact, an increasing number of world-class athletes, whose strength & conditioning is monitored by personal trainers, swear by veganism. If not eating meat made them weak, slow or deficient in any way, they would immediately go back to eating meat. A: People have been eating meat for thousands of years. B: Mankind has outgrown lots of cultural traditions that we no longer deem humane or civilized: sacrificing animals, whipping women and children, burning witches, enslaving other people, etc. Harvesting and slaughtering animals just for culinary pleasure is needlessly cruel. A: Animals in nature eat other animals. B: Since when do we look to other animals for how to behave? Animals in nature also eat their own babies, rape their own daughters, raid each other’s homes, etc. Humans clearly don’t model our behaviour after other animals. We are capable of more civilized codes of ethics. A: Animals give their lives to nourish us. B: They don’t “give” their lives. They die kicking and screaming, and it’s unnecessary “nourishment”. Many top nutritional scientists have confirmed we don’t need to eat meat, not one bite, to fully nourish ourselves. If inflicting agony, fear and screaming death on conscious victims just for pleasure isn’t the definition of cruelty, what is? A: Animals are part of the food chain. There’s nothing cruel about eating them. B: If you saw your neighbour beating his dog to death with a shovel, and he said he was planning to eat parts of that dog, would you just shrug and say, “Oh, that’s OK then. It’s the food chain”? There’s nothing about killing and eating a dog that’s any crueler than a cow or pig. A: You’re never going to convince everyone to give up meat. There will always be meat eaters. B: There will always be people who abuse their dogs too, or keep their dogs in horrible, abusive conditions too. Just because needless acts of cruelty will always exist doesn’t give us licence to commit them or knowingly pay others to commit them on our behalf. A: Vegetarians are so sensitive about animals. Grow up. People like meat! B: When it came out that NFL star Michael Vick was involved in a dog-fighting circuit, fans were so upset that no NFL team would dare sign him for a while. Why are football fans so sensitive about animals? Livestock suffer at least as much abuse as dogs in dog-fighting circuits. A: Tribes in the Arctic or on remote islands rely on meat or fish to survive. B: Yes, that’s true. In some extremely rare cases, people have very little access to a wide variety of fruits, vegetables, nuts and grains so they must eat meat. And the survivors of that plane crash in the Andes were forced to eat human flesh. What does that have to do with us? A: Vegetarianism is a fad diet. It might cause health problems down the road. B: People have thrived on purely vegetarian diets for thousands of years. Millions of healthy, lifelong vegetarians today are descendants of generations of lifelong vegetarians. In fact, some of the longest living societies on Earth have been nearly or strictly vegetarian for many generations. A: Lots of people’s livelihoods depend on the meat industry. What about them? B: Millions of people’s livelihoods also depend on child trafficking, pornography, crystal meth and many other abusive industries. Post-traumatic stress disorder and many fecal-borne diseases are rampant among slaughterhouse workers. It’s an extremely disturbing and disease-riddled industry. A: So what would happen to all the livestock if we stopped eating them? They would still die. B: Moving to a plant-based society is never going to happen overnight. Of course the livestock that currently exist would still be eaten, but we should gradually stop producing billions of them per year. It’s unsustainable and it spreads diseases like no other industry. A: So you want those animals to be totally stricken from existence? That’s even more inhumane. B: By that logic, birth control is inhumane. Just like you wouldn’t want tens of billions of people in the world, we also shouldn’t keep producing tens of billions of livestock. It’s an extremely wasteful and unnecessary use of natural resources and a nightmare for the ecosystem. It’s literally unsustainable. A: We need livestock agriculture to fertilize pastures. Grass-fed cattle enrich the soil. B: Yeah, but it’s outrageously wasteful. If all the cattle produced for beef and dairy today were grass-fed, about ONE THIRD of the entire world’s arable land would need to be devoted to cow pastures! A: Humans are omnivores. We evolved from the apes by eating meat. B: We evolved by learning to harness fire to cook animal flesh because our digestive systems can’t handle eating raw meat like true carnivores and omnivores. But now we have healthier, less destructive, more humane options to get all the nutrients we need (unless you’re an Arctic tribesman who relies on walrus blubber). A: The great apes spend most of their day eating. That goes to show how hard it is to get proper nutrition from just eating plants. B: Apes in the wild also don’t have access to supermarkets, produce stands or restaurants. Nobody is suggesting people hang out in trees, eating leaves and breaking open nuts with stones. A: Hunters respect nature and animals. They hunt to feed themselves. What’s wrong with that? B: Let’s be honest. In the modern world, hunting is killing animals just for the fun of it. We don’t need to eat animals at all to feed ourselves, so whether hunters eat parts of the animals they shoot or not, they’re still just killing animals for the fun of it (unless they’re Arctic tribesmen). A: What about fishing? There are plenty of fish in the sea, right? B: Overfishing of the seas has greatly diminished the oceans’ healthy population. Today there are half the number of fish in the oceans compared to just fifty years ago. We literally can’t continue this rate of eating seafood, and we don’t need to (unless you’re living on a stranded island). A: People crave meat! You can’t deny that. B: Smokers crave cigarettes, alcoholics crave liquor, sugar lovers crave sweets. Cravings don’t indicate need or healthiness, only habit. Habits can change, especially when the habit is so destructive, unhealthy and inhumane. A: So what do you eat every day, just like tofu and sprouts? That’s gross! B: I’m pretty sure you know of hundreds of vegetables, fruits, grains, nuts, oils, spices, etc. Also, eating plants is gross? But not eating the chopped up corpses of parasitic animals who lived in crowded sheds amid each other’s scabs, feces and infections, and died in screaming agony? A: The vast majority of people in the world eat meat! If it was unhealthy, everyone would be unhealthy. B: The leading causes of death in the Western world are cancer and heart disease. And worldwide major medical research centers have examined vast international meta-studies and confirmed that rates of meat consumption directly correlate with rates of cancer and heart disease. A: Don’t you just want to eat meat sometimes? B: No, not at all. If you bit into a burger or a rack of ribs and then found out it was dog meat or cat ribs, or if you found out the nuggets you were eating were made from monkey or rat, wouldn’t you be disgusted? Eating the chopped up corpse of one animal is no crueler or grosser than any other animal. A: If these arguments are valid, why are they just now being embraced? B: Many of the most celebrated revolutionary geniuses in human history were vegetarians: Pythagoras, Plato, Socrates, Aristotle, Ben Franklin, Leonardo Da Vinci, Nicola Tesla, Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Albert Einstein, etc. In fact, Einstein predicted that mankind will eventually evolve to a vegetarian diet for its own good. A: So you think everyone should just stop eating meat and dairy? B: Of course! That’s like asking if everyone should stop abusing their pets, leaving their showers running all day or encouraging children to smoke. Nothing about harvesting the corpses of billions of animals or ripping the milk from pregnant cows with machines is humane, healthy or sustainable.
@TyrellFrye
@TyrellFrye 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Blees thank you for this!
@kevins.783
@kevins.783 5 жыл бұрын
Subscribed ;)
@larsonpark3819
@larsonpark3819 5 жыл бұрын
My initial inclination to go vegan was walking through a street market in Myanmar and seeing first-hand a cage of sad, frightened goats waiting to get killed, and all the blood and flies and smells and general carnage of it all, and then compared that row in the market to the ones with all the baskets of bright, colourful fruits, vegetables, spices, etc. That image changed my outlook on how nasty meat really is. I think the most fundamental question that can be asked is simply: "If needlessly abusing and killing conscious animals just for pleasure isn't the definition of animal cruelty, what is?"
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Erik Blees Wow:( what a powerful image. I wanna go hug an animal right now. Blessings to you for your compassion you show to the world:)
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
You can't know what made the goats sad or frightened, do you know of do you believe it was the knowledge of their nearing death? Most animals suffer severe stress when they are simply not in their normal habitat. Being brought to the market with all the strange sounds, smells and people is enough to stress these animals. I don't think most animals have a concept of what is death, they don't contemplate about the meaning of life.
@larsonpark3819
@larsonpark3819 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 Well, sure, I am not suggesting that animals have a nuanced philosophical understanding of the "meaning of life." But it's clear that animals smell death and fear it, which is why they scream and writhe in protest at the moment of slaughter. It's gross, cruel and needless, period.
@larsonpark3819
@larsonpark3819 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 Great. But even in that best case scenario, I still wouldn't want to look a conscious, innocent animal in the eye and kill it just for a moment of unnecessary culinary pleasure, nor would I want to watch it done, and I wouldn't want my kids watch it. And so I also don't want to pay someone else to do it on my behalf. That's basic ethics as I see it. Eat chopped up animal corpses if you want to. I'm done with that.
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
@R4MS FAN UK Maybe when they are ill? But I don't think they can read the mind of humans.
@nicktheavatar_
@nicktheavatar_ 5 жыл бұрын
I'm vegan working at a steakhouse (don't worry, I already put in my 2 weeks) and through using Ed's debate points, I've actually planted seeds in my coworkers minds about how horrible the dairy industry is. I've even told customers about some documentaries I've watched and hopefully they watched them and changed their minds. And I've convinced a couple coworkers to go dairy-free/vegetarian! They have to start somewhere. Ripples eventually become waves ;)
@cvoiceofficial
@cvoiceofficial 5 жыл бұрын
Hehehe. Soon you'll be fired, don't worry. Unless the steakhouse becomes a vegan steakhouse, then all I can say is well done. Well done.
@Linkous12
@Linkous12 5 жыл бұрын
I work as a server at a non-vegan restaurant and I feel like a hypocrite. I avoid being part of the system that kills animals in every other aspect of my life, except for what I do to make money.
@cvoiceofficial
@cvoiceofficial 5 жыл бұрын
@@Linkous12 While it seems like it's beneficial for converting people to vegans, you don't have a place with good veggie options or straight vegan you can continually apply for or something?
@Linkous12
@Linkous12 5 жыл бұрын
@@cvoiceofficial I live in a rural area in the southern US. "Veganism" is a bad word around here.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew Davis Aw:( that’s saddening. Maybe you could talk to people gently about a plant-based diet, and not use the word vegan. Talk to them about the beauty of animals, and the ways that we can save of animals and humans lives and help those who live in poverty if everyone ate plants. It’s very brave, strong and compassionate if you to be something you want to be, in the fact of so much opposition:) you’re doing a wonderful job;)
@micayp4104
@micayp4104 5 жыл бұрын
Wtf is it with getting brisket/ribeye steak/ meat ads before vegan videos?? I doubt carnivore channels are getting broccoli ads P.S. I love u Ed!!!
@Balancinglife
@Balancinglife 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@j-sm4554
@j-sm4554 5 жыл бұрын
i guess the ad algorithm doesn't go further than "food" lol
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
It's insufferable
@vegan-vrking9565
@vegan-vrking9565 5 жыл бұрын
Seriously the pettiness is hilarious youtube
@Throughthewireee
@Throughthewireee 5 жыл бұрын
I remember cooking my first brisket like it was yestarday!
@amberalicea4623
@amberalicea4623 5 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to watch the second part with the guy wearing Canada Goose. Thank you for addressing that.
@sisterbob5169
@sisterbob5169 5 жыл бұрын
@Molson Muscle .i bet when he found out it was full of chicken feathers i stead of goose he thought sheeeeeet
@pep-o-butt672
@pep-o-butt672 5 жыл бұрын
Molson Muscle Vegan* Vegetarians don't care about goose feathers in their coats and some don't even care about fur.
@adiohead
@adiohead 5 жыл бұрын
@@pep-o-butt672 I was a vegetarian who didn't wear animal products. I was just ignorant about diary, eggs, and honey. Thankfully I was educated by vegans about them online.
@sisterbob5169
@sisterbob5169 5 жыл бұрын
@@pep-o-butt672 .what a silly fucking comment ..who are you?do you know all the vegetarians ?oops let me guess your "better"cus your vegan..dick
@pep-o-butt672
@pep-o-butt672 5 жыл бұрын
@@adiohead I hope you know that there are many other non-vegan things, please watch Bite SIze Vegan. Silk, breeding, animal riding, animal products in make up and home cleaning supplies, in car, bike and motorcycle tyres, in art supplies as well.
@waywardwinchester
@waywardwinchester 5 жыл бұрын
"are we considering fish animals?" , no fish are vegetables obviously. *SMFH*
@Yourhighnessnona
@Yourhighnessnona 3 жыл бұрын
She's obviously a little ignorant about animals, but I don't think it's entirely her fault. I don't think many people in the big city are connected to other animals other than pets and humans and aren't taught a lot about it. Especially in America.
@zebyurd9530
@zebyurd9530 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between me and you is that we both draw the line of sentience at a different place. I believe that humans are sentient, monkeys and apes are sentient and AI will become sentient soon. Obviously sentient creatures deserve rights. You draw the line of sentients somewhere else. I find the idea that cows for example are sentient enough to realize what will happen to it and prevent it from being happy while it’s alive is as strange to me as the idea that your soy is sentient would be to you
@ultralightcam6963
@ultralightcam6963 3 жыл бұрын
They are obviously minerals
@SourceChan
@SourceChan 3 жыл бұрын
Garbage comment
@leonardodtc1493
@leonardodtc1493 3 жыл бұрын
@@SourceChan could say the same
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 5 жыл бұрын
Ed why don't you bring with you some Beyond Burgers in small portions to share with the people as a reward to having a discussion with you. they need to see with their own tongues and taste with their own eyes the truth that they don't need to kill animals to get all the great flavors and health benefits.
@WeThe6ix
@WeThe6ix 5 жыл бұрын
That would be brilliant
@andrewp3358
@andrewp3358 5 жыл бұрын
@@zrexiousre3975 my nigga
@danielmanahan692
@danielmanahan692 5 жыл бұрын
@@zrexiousre3975 what does beyond burger taste like to you young man
@zrexiousre3975
@zrexiousre3975 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielmanahan692 idk but meat is tasty
@joe_laird
@joe_laird 5 жыл бұрын
​@@zrexiousre3975 pathetic troll
@i123456987654
@i123456987654 5 жыл бұрын
lol it's great that she used the word dominion because there's a documentary called dominion that she should watch
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
What's wrong with us having dominion over lesser but very tasty beings?
@raimondsauseklis3859
@raimondsauseklis3859 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 eat them raw and tell me you enjoyed the taste. :)
@TXRhody
@TXRhody 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 Is it better to protect the innocent and vulnerable beings or to exploit them?
@d.rabbitwhite
@d.rabbitwhite 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 you mean like children?
@jenm1
@jenm1 5 жыл бұрын
deborah rabbit white Be careful, the carnists will get very defensive with that one
@angela.escobar
@angela.escobar 5 жыл бұрын
Ed, thank you for inspiring countless individuals such as myself to become vegan or take the next step to become vegan after vegetarianism. You are truly compassionate not only in your treatment of animals, but in your activism spreading this message. You saved me from continuing to abuse animals and for that I am forever grateful.
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
Angela Brown thank you for sacrificing your health so we have more meat to ourselves
@zenmint
@zenmint 5 жыл бұрын
@@NahkriinAhziid nutritionfacts.org/2013/02/14/animal-protein-and-igf-1/ www.who.int/features/qa/cancer-red-meat/en/
@Mariemarie-uw7id
@Mariemarie-uw7id 5 жыл бұрын
Angela Brown this idiot made me give up being vegetarian since I am worried for my braincells. He is a liar being vegetarian of vegan means you lose fertility or worse your life
@angela.escobar
@angela.escobar 5 жыл бұрын
@@Mariemarie-uw7id Citation for that claim?
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
Leilani Puerto Wow low quality and processed meat is unhealthy? I only eat local high quality, healthy animal products and no processed foods. Most vegan food is processed, sugary, man made or contains anti nutrients
@danieladelriog
@danieladelriog 5 жыл бұрын
I love that I have seen so many of these street interviews and learned all the excuses that I KNOW which argument Ed is going to use! I love it! Makes me practice the way I can answer in my conversations! 🌱 I just crave more videos like this ! Thanks for all you do!
@miaclifton
@miaclifton 5 жыл бұрын
Haha that’s awesome 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
@helenahedgetrimming1818
@helenahedgetrimming1818 5 жыл бұрын
Vegan delusions....eat a steak and come back to reality!!!
@Redrose03
@Redrose03 5 жыл бұрын
The last guy was a prime example of humanity at its best. He was able to look at new information logically and in an unbiased way. Totally capable of introspecting about the relevance of that information and how it applied to his own behavior. Honest and open. I wish everybody was like this.
@EarthyAmy
@EarthyAmy 5 жыл бұрын
I think what I love the most about these kind of questions is that it gets people to look at themselves and see that in some way they’re hypocritical and contradict themselves. I think it gets them to reconsider their values and take a second to rethink what’s right and wrong. They themselves make the connection instead of someone pushing the vegan message on them which is much more powerful. They recognize their cognitive dissonance.
@recklez8131
@recklez8131 5 жыл бұрын
@@wh0586 you do understand that vegans barely argue about nutrition and way more about the effect of the meat industry to the world and the "moral wrong doing" to animals... right?
@frostcf1706
@frostcf1706 5 жыл бұрын
@@wh0586Link of the study that was done please? Anybody can spout bs about shit they know nothing about but evidence is what's important.
@avesl1941
@avesl1941 3 жыл бұрын
@@recklez8131 Go watch Unnatural Vegan, she’s constantly debunking omnivore lies about vegan nutrition, as well as criticising extreme vegan diets
@ElectronicSin
@ElectronicSin 5 жыл бұрын
"Are we considering fish as animals?" Harvard... seriously?! 😂
@veganfortheanimals6994
@veganfortheanimals6994 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, just wrote that too
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
Sharks are actually a type of potato
@dragonskylords9032
@dragonskylords9032 5 жыл бұрын
Getting into college nowadays apparently doesn't involve a certain level of intelligence LOL
@davidhenderson5051
@davidhenderson5051 5 жыл бұрын
@@80slimshadys - lol pml!!!!
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
@@davidhenderson5051 yea I cracked myself up with that one. Wrote it yesterday and I'm still laughing. Smh, are fish animals....
@AirScottyfpv
@AirScottyfpv 5 жыл бұрын
Whether or not humans have a soul is a debated question, does that mean it’s ok to eat me? It’s incredible the answers people come up with to make themselves not feel inherently guilty.
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
If animals have souls? Do we get to eat in heaven?
@nomju6411
@nomju6411 5 жыл бұрын
I can make an argument for why it's in society's best interest to protect you from being eaten. I have not seen a similar argument for why it's in our best interest to prevent an animal from being eaten.
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
outsideworld76 first of all, god isn’t real
@pep-o-butt672
@pep-o-butt672 5 жыл бұрын
Gxsmxsk76 But humans ARE animals.
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
KASPER animals kill each other and humans are on the top of the food chain. You just proved yourself wrong nice job
@SamanthaAimee
@SamanthaAimee 5 жыл бұрын
Convince me Ed isn't Vegan Jesus. (You can't.)
@Hans-tr6dx
@Hans-tr6dx 5 жыл бұрын
ed is Vegan Jesus. Change my mind*
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
Ask him to walk over water
@SamanthaAimee
@SamanthaAimee 5 жыл бұрын
@@Hans-tr6dx there's literally no difference between the two phrases 🤣
@lloydchristmas4547
@lloydchristmas4547 5 жыл бұрын
@Conan typical sociopath. That's a loss ... every time for you.
@PauIdenino
@PauIdenino 5 жыл бұрын
@Conan Funny how you use the word "sociopath"... The irony.
@myfragilelilac
@myfragilelilac 5 жыл бұрын
I was so glad when I went to a restaurant here in Sweden yesterday, and asked for a vegan meny. They said their goal is to make a vegan option for everything on the meny. It was a happy Vegan moment. 🌱🤪
@niklaskarlzen5191
@niklaskarlzen5191 4 жыл бұрын
@YoLo CaUsT Your point being? Just curious
@erzo8890
@erzo8890 4 жыл бұрын
@YoLo CaUsT u think killing is an attribute of masculinaity ?? Thats not snowflake thats just empathy fo animals
@erzo8890
@erzo8890 4 жыл бұрын
@YoLo CaUsT hope the best and happy moments in ur life for u nonetheless
@daol84
@daol84 4 жыл бұрын
@YoLo CaUsT What's a snowflake country? Never heard that before.
@paulaslife3781
@paulaslife3781 5 жыл бұрын
Can listen to ED all day he's a master activist☝️
@jarradwebb9486
@jarradwebb9486 5 жыл бұрын
It's a nice change to listen to intellectual debates in comparison to previous videos like when talking to Texas cowboys lol
@SpeakDahTruth
@SpeakDahTruth 5 жыл бұрын
So anyone that doesn’t want to join your vegan cult lacks intellect? Stfu
@onyxlightworker
@onyxlightworker 5 жыл бұрын
@@SpeakDahTruth I think that what Jarrad is implying is that the level of sophistication of openness to new information is refreshing. The Texas citizens where conditioned and normalised into closed information, and therefore the conversations where less stimulating due to the lack of interest for debate or simply different perspective - which is what students at Harvard are potentially used to daily :) Would be interested to know what you define as a 'cult'?
@SpeakDahTruth
@SpeakDahTruth 5 жыл бұрын
Milly Tigerlily ok so if i was talking to ed, had an open discussion as the people in this video did and at the end decided i wanted to continue eating animal products would the same thing apply to me too? A cult is a group of people that think they are better than everyone else and are more enlightened than everyone else. They are constantly trying to convert everyone to join their cult. That perfectly describes veganism
@onyxlightworker
@onyxlightworker 5 жыл бұрын
​@@SpeakDahTruth No, different situation :) I think everybody has a right to have their own perspective and thought about what they consume. The points that Ed make through these discussions are to educate people, even seemingly on those who are very educated, on what really happens or goes on in these animal related industries - which is not openly advertised or shown by such companies. I personally don't know you - I do not judge you, I do not think anything bad of you. But I would hope that if you were to be in that situation that you would be open to listening to what was said, and internalise it, make connections and understand what goes on then go on to make an informed opinion and new perspective. Thats a shame you think of Vegans like that, and its a shame you've come to Ed's video with that pre-distinction. Because I'd hope that Vegans do not think they are 'better than everyone else', we are maybe not 'more enlightened' but have more of an informed view of what really goes on behind slaughterhouse doors and farm houses and refuse to be apart of the consumer cycle within that. Enlightenment is a term which would be seen as 'given light', hence being 'enLIGHTened', having attainted more knowledge and understanding than before. I would offer you to watch the documentaries that Ed shows in the video above, so that you may understand why you may think that Vegans seem to feel 'more enlightened'. Vegans do not consume animal products because they understand the violence and the use/abuse of sentient beings... and would really appreciate and love for others to understand. I would say that Vegans are a community of people that want the world to expend in their consciousness, rather than shy away from information which is PURPOSELY not shown to the general public, due to the violent nature and potential decline in interest within the animal related industries. To be able to be happy and live how they want to, regardless of sex/age/orientation/country, but stop the unnecessary use of animals :) Hope thats helpful Negan, have a good day!
@MauriceTarantulas
@MauriceTarantulas 5 жыл бұрын
The irony here is the your average Texan cowboy is about 100 times the man a sad vegan will ever be.
@woostaboo
@woostaboo 5 жыл бұрын
ED you boss! planting seeds in such a wonderful conducive manner. So very compassionate to those you are speaking to, very helpful, you're a therapist and a healer and you are serving their integrity and conscience and they are enjoying it as they should be because its fundamentally what they want!
@woostaboo
@woostaboo 5 жыл бұрын
@food4 thought and what makes you say that? earthling is a beautiful name as we are all earthlings and so we are all family :) you too are an earthling my dear brother
@woostaboo
@woostaboo 5 жыл бұрын
@food4 thought killing you with kindess hehe :) well i do care about you.. so its the right thing to do to be kind :) just like ed in this video :) yes i am Ed's child, Ed is my dad :') lol im just kidding around
@woostaboo
@woostaboo 5 жыл бұрын
@food4 thought glad to make you smile :) do feel free to share why he gets on your nerves if you wish.
@alicesshelter9719
@alicesshelter9719 5 жыл бұрын
You. Are. Amazing. You just are.
@todaysrealhealth8038
@todaysrealhealth8038 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Ed. It’s about time you also have a colleague find at the same locations the Vegans and interview them. VEGANS are growing in numbers daily. We are everywhere. We need to show people. Media is portraying us as almost non existent. Let’s show them that we are everywhere.
@Glitterastic
@Glitterastic 5 жыл бұрын
TodaysRealHealth this is so true. I became a vegan 5 months ago and I thought the same way. Now I see how I have so many options there are as "vegan" at restaurants and products, I said "hey, there is a substantial demand here". Minority no more ✌🏻
@aerynsun3212
@aerynsun3212 3 жыл бұрын
Simple answer, if it is necessary for someone’s survival there can be moral justification. If it is not necessary there is no justification
@caralawson9616
@caralawson9616 5 жыл бұрын
I really liked the opener you had at the beginning of this video, and I think it was a good way to reframe things. I think the way we initially set up these conversations can totally help us to gear our ideas in the right direction
@Lb-ri5wr
@Lb-ri5wr 5 жыл бұрын
"are we considering fish animals" xD
@myfragilelilac
@myfragilelilac 5 жыл бұрын
Lol.
@felixplantstrong2361
@felixplantstrong2361 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah at first I thought that she is pretty intelligent until she asked that Question like jeez lmao
@godofgains9738
@godofgains9738 5 жыл бұрын
Can't blame her, it's because we all have been institutionalized into thinking that insects, fish, birds are not fitting into the category of animals, and animals are the ones who are on land and are bipeds or walk on fours.
@miss_simran_x
@miss_simran_x 5 жыл бұрын
@@godofgains9738 No at my school they didn't teach us that insects etc aren't animals
@godofgains9738
@godofgains9738 5 жыл бұрын
​@@miss_simran_x Even if that's true, people who are pescetarians (at least some dumb pescetarians I know) don't think fish feel pain, I think that's how this "fish are not animals" came into being. As activists, we have to remind people that fish feel pain, and suffocate just like animals. I mean anatomically there are a lot of differences. Some schools teach the students that insects are insects, they don't go beyond that, they don't even teach that insects are animals, all is left for the assumption that they are animals. When student goes to higher grade they'll read that insects are in Kingdom Animalia but subconsciously brush off that part because they think biological classification is different from conventional classification.
@jenm1
@jenm1 5 жыл бұрын
That dude with the fur coat is a vegan at heart
@onewish2230
@onewish2230 5 жыл бұрын
Straw Baby he’s gonna get there, we all are gonna get there
@onewish2230
@onewish2230 5 жыл бұрын
STEAK AND CHIPS are you okay?
@jenm1
@jenm1 5 жыл бұрын
STEAK AND CHIPS are you okay?
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
ARE YOU OKAY ANNIE **dance off begins**
@kamerondubois1201
@kamerondubois1201 5 жыл бұрын
@@onewish2230 sure guy I can guarantee if enough people star going vegan you will see a dramatic decrease in human lifespans.
@buzz10014
@buzz10014 5 жыл бұрын
i love how these videos are going to be up for probably 100 years and this is going to be a great look into the past.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
STEAK AND CHIPS Predictions have the world going vegan by 2050. I wonder what you’ll tell the people you know, and how the long the truth will take to hit you.
@cashewbutterbananasforever8646
@cashewbutterbananasforever8646 5 жыл бұрын
Nate, exciting to know that it won’t be like this for long.
@anarkitype4017
@anarkitype4017 5 жыл бұрын
"I don't....think that like...animals are humans..." Harvard in 2019 everybody!
@Briannalangland
@Briannalangland 5 жыл бұрын
Noah James Wescombe you can’t tell me you honestly think humans and animals are the same... yes we came out of animals but mentally we are drastically different. Animals are input output machines they don’t stop and reflect like humans. Js.
@bobsmith3931
@bobsmith3931 5 жыл бұрын
​@@Briannalangland "The difference in mind between man and the higher animals, great as it is, certainly is one of degree and not of kind.” -- Charles Darwin
@mildredhubble6848
@mildredhubble6848 5 жыл бұрын
B Langland how do you know?
@anarkitype4017
@anarkitype4017 5 жыл бұрын
@@Briannalangland That is simply not true. Neuroscience research over the past decade has shown that various animals are capable of complex emotions, deductions, and psycho-social behaviours. Dogs, pigs, elephants, whales, and crows are prominent examples.
@EddLiam
@EddLiam 5 жыл бұрын
B Langland You need to do more research on animals. I was watching a documentary on Wild boars in Texas. They’re hard to kill because they observe traps and will avoid them if they witness a member of their family harmed by it. Humans and animals aren’t the same but we’re not much different.
@rawlivingspirulina8221
@rawlivingspirulina8221 5 жыл бұрын
Don't ever stop what you are doing. It is brilliant and you have a gift that was given to you for this purpose. We are all vegan here at Raw Living Spirulina, sharing and supporting the gift of health, giving those with questions as to where do I get my protein, the best answer! Thank you Ed for all you do.
@lgnxthrn
@lgnxthrn 5 жыл бұрын
You deserve more subscribers, you do so much to help animals and educate people and there are people with more subscribers who don't do anything good for the world
@sofiablackwelder4365
@sofiablackwelder4365 5 жыл бұрын
interesting what was said about education and just 'shying away' from reality ... indicating that in fact he knows whats going on but continues to indulge in a certain ignorance
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837
@itswrongtokillanimalsifyou2837 5 жыл бұрын
It's frustrating how non-committal most of them were in their answers. They seemed very keen on steering their answers to dealing with what the masses are thinking and how to change people's behavior, when the question was what THEY THEMSELVES thought. And it peeves me to no end when people say "we should definitely be aware of...", as if to imply that it makes up for the abuse/killing...
@acathosh
@acathosh 3 жыл бұрын
It's so lovely to see people willing to debate and learn new things. Even if it contradicts their current way of life.
@gogetta31
@gogetta31 5 жыл бұрын
Ed, as a vegan of 8+ years, I just want to applaud you for your consistent kindness, and even more impressive, your amazing level of patience. I find that I struggle greatly to keep strong emotion out of such conversations with people on the other side of the debate. Watching your videos continually encourages me that it can be done, and honestly is the best approach to start any sort of real change or thought paradigm shift in another individual. I hope that someday, with a bit of practice, I may be able to hold such poignant and emotionally neutral conversations you continually demonstrate. Thank you again for spreading the vegan message with such insight and class. I look forward to watching your upcoming videos and learning more along the way.
@TechHole
@TechHole 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing work. I think one of the most valuable things about this is that you're documenting something that today people (even 'highly educated' people) think of as "normal" that in 100 years people will find appalling.
@Bigislandchef
@Bigislandchef 5 жыл бұрын
It was good to see a group of people so open to the discussion and having a willingness to interact over the question of compassion and morality towards animals. I think you also clearly demonstrated that when Harvard Students are uncomfortable with a topic or their choices, they start their answer with the word “interesting” or the phrase “I don’t know”.
@Deathhead68
@Deathhead68 5 жыл бұрын
You are an amazing person. I really hope you see this, because you really should know it. Keep doing what you're doing. You're literally saving so many more animals than you ever consumed.
@mikeloserface
@mikeloserface 5 жыл бұрын
I think Ed's question of "how do you morally justify consuming animals when we don't have to?" Is literally my favourite question right now. I've been vegan a while year now if you would have asked me 13 months ago I'd have said "idgaf they taste good, so I can't justify it" like that's actually what made me reflect on myself shortly before I followed my fiancee's vegan diet.
@LowsonIntl
@LowsonIntl 5 жыл бұрын
"Murder" is not a personal "opinion" - it is a personal "choice." The choice of murder is wholly unnecessary and morally indefensible. No living being should have to die for the choices you make. The choice of compassion or murder is up to you. Which choice will you make?
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
@Conan Not according vegans, personally I think they are plant killers, what did these innocent plants to to get chewed alive? Getting cooked alive... the horror...
@featherbladefeatherblade3806
@featherbladefeatherblade3806 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 joy-killers
@jennpotter8949
@jennpotter8949 5 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the female respondent. You can tell that she is actually thinking critically and trying to open her mind and reconcile her pre-existing beliefs with the new ideas Ed's questions bring up, rather than just trying to win the debate. This gives me hope that minds really can be changed.
@pawninwordsandsoon
@pawninwordsandsoon 5 жыл бұрын
A Harvard student asks the question "are fish animals?"... Okay, I'm done. There's no hope for this world... I give up, this is just pointless... the only thing that can fix the world at this point is a new plague.
@dragonskylords9032
@dragonskylords9032 5 жыл бұрын
I learned everything I needed to know by 10th grade. Apparently some have to continue to go to school to learn nothing ;)
@Atypical_Chad
@Atypical_Chad 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah... it really is a joke that that's something they really wonder... I'd say it's dumb enough that they should be slapped three-stooges style and asked why they're at Harvard asking such a dumb question lol.
@andrewp3358
@andrewp3358 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like she asked that to have Ed's views of fish to that topic in the conversation
@TheLegendOfLame
@TheLegendOfLame 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think she was asking if fish were animals in general, but in Ed's question, as some people don't consider fish, and especially bugs, to be animals.
@tomsjose4u
@tomsjose4u 5 жыл бұрын
That was a contextual question. Some dont consider human as an animal. Hence a clarification on what we really mean when we say animal is necessary.eg mushroom, fungi.
@anna9735
@anna9735 5 жыл бұрын
It's quite easy to tell which people have an open mind to this conversation and which ones are trying to hide behind their justifications even when those justifications are full of holes. It's absolutely lovely to see when people are willing to learn and expand their knowledge 🙏
@R0gue1gNite
@R0gue1gNite 5 жыл бұрын
Vegan way, the right way.
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
Straight to the mental hospital
@simonwauthier2550
@simonwauthier2550 5 жыл бұрын
@@outsideworld76 yeah because carnists make me depressed
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
outsideworld76 Vegans do have higher rates of mental illness. But according you the research, they become vegan AFTER the onset of the mental illness. People with mental illnesses suffer quite a bit, and the researchers hypothesized that this suffering lends them compassion to ease and eliminate the suffering they may cause in the world around them. Hence, they become vegan.
@edvardtosmanov5062
@edvardtosmanov5062 5 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how this comments section is a place for vegans to hide so they won’t be criticized by the general public lol.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Edvardt Osmanov Considering the “general public” has begun to adopt the idea of ethical food consumption (Beyond Meats stock going public and increasing 7x its price within a couple months, McDonald’s releasing a vegan burger, Tim Horton’s releasing vegan options, Burger King releasing a vegan burger, and a dramatic increase in vegan and ethical food labeling), yes, these vegans are doing a pretty good job spreading their message.
@PaolaLozanoYoga
@PaolaLozanoYoga 5 жыл бұрын
I'm glad these students seemed calm and open when being asked this type of questions. Great job!
@ladydrawsalot1329
@ladydrawsalot1329 5 жыл бұрын
Ed you are brilliant at planting the seeds of thought that are so needed. Thank you for the work you do, and these videos you post. They teach me a lot about how to talk to others about veganism. 🌱
@Spetaelsk
@Spetaelsk 5 жыл бұрын
This is such a good place for you to do interviews, Ed! Sowing lots of seeds all over campus, love it!
@angiefawn2578
@angiefawn2578 5 жыл бұрын
I love these interviews at college campuses because the students are smart and open to hearing different perspectives
@bradenevans514
@bradenevans514 5 жыл бұрын
We are fat, muscle, tissue, and blood. We drink milk from our mothers when born. We do not have the enzymes to break down vegetables in our stomachs. (Cows do.) In order to heal my body, I eat animal fats, proteins, tissue, blood, and milk. Perfect health.
@bobsmith3931
@bobsmith3931 5 жыл бұрын
"We are fat" I bet you are.
@JakeGittes84
@JakeGittes84 5 жыл бұрын
@@bobsmith3931 no one gains weight from eating meat. Fat people are typically fat from eating vast amounts of carbohydrates, and fat. Eating meat alone would likely make you lose fat.
@sam_rashba
@sam_rashba 5 жыл бұрын
Love that you're on Harvard's campus Ed! I graduated from there in 2015 and Veganism came across my radar a few months before I finished school there (You can see my freshman dorm in the background...). Went down the Netflix food documentary wormhole and then asked my cousin about his Veganism since he'd been practicing it for 3 years - he linked me to Gary Yoroufsky's famous speech and there wasn't much looking back from there for me ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6SZhmNmgbKgeZY ). I eased into the diet, going vegetarian for a few months because I didn't want to make the full step to Veganism while still having to deal with the average cafeteria food. I figured that I would be able to execute the diet more effectively if I could fully control my food choices after I graduated (Veganism in the dining halls would have meant eating a lot of the same lame salads). This is a very Harvard-y thing to say haha, but at least for me the process of changing my diet was deeply rooted in an almost 'academic' curiosity for the multifaceted sub-topics around Veganism. There were so many angles in which to engage with the subject - through morality, how the human body processes food, the relationship between disease and nutrition, the link between our food literacy and food marketing, the environmental impact of the food industry, on and on. Absorbing all of that knowledge made the "hard" part of just finding new recipes to cook and more consciously choosing products that don't use animal parts to be actually fairly straightforward. Some books I'd recommend that the knowledge-hungry dive into are The China Study T. Colin Campbell, Proteinaholic by Dr. Garth Davis, and Dying for A Hamburger by Marjorie Lamb and Murray Waldman. As far as KZbin goes I've been most impressed by Ed's approach to broaching the topic with people on a moral level, and I get my nutritional facts fix from Mic The Vegan's channel. Gary Yoroufsky's personal website is still a go-to source of helpful information for me too: www.adaptt.org/ I would also say that while (some) college students might seem close minded to confrontational ideas lately, I think Ed's approach of calmly positing challenging questions without being accusatory is ultimately very effective, even if they seem to be pushing back in the interviews. It's when they're quietly considering the conversation later on their own terms and perhaps looking through some of the resources he gives them that they might become more receptive to the principles behind Veganism, especially when they ultimately align with the ideas around justice for humanity that they are all likely fully on board with already. Keep it up Ed!
@yvesningmoon
@yvesningmoon 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Rashba wanna date?
@morighani
@morighani Жыл бұрын
agree on that last part!! Many situations, especially veg/veganism I would push back regardless. But I bet you when they’re faced with another meat eater (hopefully a more ignorant, obnoxious one) they will find themselves with those little points in their head. if they like to debate like me there are tons of possibility to become devil’s advocate. I was fighting and pushing for veganism way before considering becoming one myself. there’s definitely hope
@salit3749
@salit3749 5 жыл бұрын
i love these conversations and appreciate greatly what you're doing. i'm not a talkative person, so i wouldn't feel comfortable talking to people like you do, but i'm always looking for ways to bring the awareness and consciousness to non-vegans using my own talents. thank you for being who you are, and have a great day, everyone! 🌻
@CelinaYTChannel
@CelinaYTChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I got a dairy ad in the middle of the vid aaaa how ironic.. AND it was like "they live on grass!"
@JanetLy
@JanetLy 5 жыл бұрын
I love the level of the conversations. It's so refreshing to see how they are not instantly trying to defend themselves. And I love how well Ed is introducing and leading the conversation. Can't wait for part 2!
@Paulshaggy
@Paulshaggy 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, these are some smart, thinking, open minded individuals
@MitchPhillips
@MitchPhillips 5 жыл бұрын
The girl tho. Really???
@tedcoombs7762
@tedcoombs7762 5 жыл бұрын
Mitch Phillips yeah "are we considering fish as animals"
@Paulshaggy
@Paulshaggy 5 жыл бұрын
@@MitchPhillips give her a break, she just specified in the context of conversation :)
@MitchPhillips
@MitchPhillips 5 жыл бұрын
Pavel Blacktown In what regard? Her asking “Are we considering fish as animals” suggests she thought fish mightn’t be animals. She’s not a random person on the street, she’s at HARVARD. The mind boggles...
@Paulshaggy
@Paulshaggy 5 жыл бұрын
@@MitchPhillips well, it didn't hurt my feelings, other dudes are pretty good for sure
@TheRealmusic18
@TheRealmusic18 5 жыл бұрын
Open-minded and thoughtful individuals. I appreciated watching this and the line of questioning.
@lizbeer758
@lizbeer758 5 жыл бұрын
Never new what foie gras was until I saw this video. Looked it up and read all about the process. How. Horribly. Disgusting. 😓
@MrDingez
@MrDingez 7 ай бұрын
What a kind and sensitive young man in the beginning!
@AK-ky8xg
@AK-ky8xg 5 жыл бұрын
So glad you’re highlighting his fur trim. It’s all I could think about as he was struggling with his own moral objectivity.
@Ineedtorecover
@Ineedtorecover 5 жыл бұрын
Im vegan for the animals, Bollocks to health, if it would cut my life by 20yrs by eating plants I would still do it. Because I would rather have half the life knowing I lived it with empathy and compassion. I feel heavy hearted knowing that I ate meat for most of my life. P.S I would love to meet you Ed
@rachaellouise2666
@rachaellouise2666 5 жыл бұрын
They all say they don't know enough to answer the questions or haven't done enough research yet... Ed you are amazing for getting the truth out there. I feel like they are gonna do more research after encountering you.
@MitchPhillips
@MitchPhillips 5 жыл бұрын
Rachael Louise Had a very frustrating conversation with a relative recently, and they used that as a crutch to basically sayIng ‘well I don’t have all the answers, so there’s no point discussing this’ despite me basically asking the most common sense questions you’d imagine. People love to hide behind lack of knowledge when all it takes is to apply common sense.
@rachaellouise2666
@rachaellouise2666 5 жыл бұрын
I know what they mean about not understanding the full extent of the farming industry and so perhaps not being able to fully comment. But. Yeah, Ed's questions appeal to basic human emotions/logic, you can just feel the answer in your heart.
@AConnorDN38416
@AConnorDN38416 5 жыл бұрын
"I don't think animals are human" "are fish animals?" ...say what
@samsev
@samsev 5 жыл бұрын
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@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455
@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455 5 жыл бұрын
Hey im mostly vegetarian but I eat frutti di mare. With exception of some animals f e octopus. Whats the morally difference between eating a plant and a animal that can't feel anything
@CosmeValera
@CosmeValera 5 жыл бұрын
@@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455 Fish can feel
@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455
@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455 5 жыл бұрын
@@CosmeValera I didn't say I eat fish, and the most scientist say they can't but it's unclear
@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455
@ceterumcenseocarthaginemes455 5 жыл бұрын
@@MorningMindfulness it's not the point if fish feel pain animals like ants can't feel pain and others to why shouldn't I morally be justified to eat them just as I'm to eating plant
@kellersmith5650
@kellersmith5650 5 жыл бұрын
in the middle of this video i got a disgusting commercial for Longhorn Steakhouse where there was a bunch of dead animals on plates 🤮
@jadex38
@jadex38 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Really enjoy these interactive conversations with every day people. Your line of questioning really makes them stop and take a hard look at their own decisions and whether or not these are aligned with their moral code and personal belief system. BRAVO!
@KonesThe
@KonesThe 5 жыл бұрын
This was so insightful an d a really nice debate overall.
@wlgeiger
@wlgeiger 9 ай бұрын
I freaking love that ed stays so calm. Idk how he does it but he's my hero
@boutek
@boutek 5 жыл бұрын
7:26 "Are we considering fish an animal"? Harvard student.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
Floating vegetable*
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
Sharks are actually a type of potato
@boutek
@boutek 5 жыл бұрын
13:41 Did you actually accept that for certain civilisations it's morally justified to kill animals? You steered her answer into another question instead of addressing her point. I'm playing devil's advocate here because I myself am vegan but you do have to draw line somwhere. Do you kill insects? Most vegans say no and think of ladybirds, butterflies etc. But what about mosquitos, lice, fleas, ticks etc. Are you going to let them live? Knowing that tick can spread many diseases? I've seen a deer in a forest, most of it's ass has been eaten. It was still alive. For a reason. The bear that has been eating it wanted to keep it as fresh as possible every time he came back to have a bite. The deer was probably alive for 48 hours while being eaten. How does that compare to us shooting an animal with powerful gun and making sure it's dead as quickly as possible. As I said I'm playing Devil's advocate (asking questions I've been asking myself) but purely talking about hunting not intensive farming( there's absolutely no excuse for that).
@luciencraw3533
@luciencraw3533 5 жыл бұрын
a lot of people i talked to or knew when i was younger didn't consider birds or fish to be animals, not sure why though.
@fibbintiggins2858
@fibbintiggins2858 5 жыл бұрын
@@luciencraw3533 because they are uneducated
@southamericanescapes
@southamericanescapes 5 жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've watched your videos! You are amazing. You are incredibly patient and non-aggressive or threatening while sharing your point of view. Sometimes activists can come across so judgmental that they alienate the very people they are trying to reach. Congratulations!
@davidhenderson5051
@davidhenderson5051 5 жыл бұрын
*The LENGTH of that MICROPHONE tho... lol!!* _Double up as a mini club in case some of these Harvard Intellectuals get cheeky!!_
@tedcoombs7762
@tedcoombs7762 5 жыл бұрын
David Henderson 😂😂😂
@MrTrevisco
@MrTrevisco 5 жыл бұрын
Freddie Mercury microphone lol
@AirScottyfpv
@AirScottyfpv 5 жыл бұрын
For a species known for its intelligence, humans can be so DUMB. It’s embarrassing.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
Yep
@ape_human
@ape_human 5 жыл бұрын
Well the only ones claiming humans are intelligent are the humans themselves... I doubt that visiting aliens would say humans are intelligent... :)
@TechHole
@TechHole 5 жыл бұрын
Lol are fish animals
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
@@TechHole they aren't
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
Humans differ in intelligence, some people are retarded, others are half gods.
@sc9976
@sc9976 5 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch this! Keep up the amazing work Ed!
@abram413
@abram413 5 жыл бұрын
I'm a little disappointed by the reactions of these bright students. Still, you sure made them think about their actions so well done!
@d.rabbitwhite
@d.rabbitwhite 5 жыл бұрын
They are not necessarily bright. Getting into a school is about properly jumping through hoops of grades, papers, and a lot of temporary memorization for passing tests, and garnering of recommendations. If you come from a wealthy family the hoops can be less strenuous
@dragonskylords9032
@dragonskylords9032 5 жыл бұрын
Bright / students? Society thinks just because someone goes to college they can't be stupid in many ways
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
deborah rabbit white They are still bright and smart in their respective fields. No need to berate them for that.
@veganizeeverything2769
@veganizeeverything2769 5 жыл бұрын
@@zain4019 You place emphasis on what a shallow society deems important. You can't be taught what's truly important in life in these places of indoctrination. It takes a follower-type mindset not a true seeker of wisdom.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Veganize Everything I’m tired of people demonizing universities. Yes, they’re not perfect, but in our society, they are the bastions of learning and education. They ARE important. Much of the research that’s done is done by these universities, including many that have supported and backed vegansim.
@angiefawn2578
@angiefawn2578 5 жыл бұрын
When people say that humane slaughter would be having the animals have free range and fed well before they're killed I just think what if a murder gave you a nice meal, didn't hurt you but then at the end of the day they still killed you would they not be wrong for murdering you? People would say that it's still wrong and that's the same for the idea of "human slaughter" or free-range animals. No matter what's done beforehand, their lives are still being taken away
@nathaliamilis2332
@nathaliamilis2332 5 жыл бұрын
Man, the way you deal and dialoge with people is amazing
@veganfortheanimals6994
@veganfortheanimals6994 5 жыл бұрын
Can't believe she was questioning whether fish are animals.
@80slimshadys
@80slimshadys 5 жыл бұрын
I'm questions whether she should actually be at university after that blunder
@outsideworld76
@outsideworld76 5 жыл бұрын
Fish are fish and some of them are tasty.
@DonalUiNeill
@DonalUiNeill 5 жыл бұрын
I think in her defence, she was just trying to set the parameters of the conversation. Fish are, by many people's standards, in a different moral sphere to mammals like Pigs, cows etc - hence Pescitarians.
@SourceChan
@SourceChan 3 жыл бұрын
Can't believe she didn't question whether worms are animals. It's just so obvious, when people talk about animals they're obviously referring to worms. O B V I O U S L Y !
@graniteminerman
@graniteminerman 5 жыл бұрын
Cool that they're all actually pretty thoughtful, honest and genuine in response to the questions.
@hitman262
@hitman262 5 жыл бұрын
“Like are we considering fish as animals” she must be lost at havard
@MitchPhillips
@MitchPhillips 5 жыл бұрын
She's hardly likely to become Harvard's Carnism spokesperson is she...
@hitman262
@hitman262 5 жыл бұрын
Have to admire eds patience ay. I would have said na mate they’re fukin aliens lol
@jimscanoe
@jimscanoe 5 жыл бұрын
What an incredibly well spoken interviewer-and interviewees for that matter.
@theveganuprise1342
@theveganuprise1342 5 жыл бұрын
Great conversation, Ed is good at these. He listens to the other persons point of view and works with that.
@GeoffreyMays
@GeoffreyMays 5 жыл бұрын
Earthling Ed, You Rock! So grateful for your videos.
@jayaz9113
@jayaz9113 5 жыл бұрын
Ed is amazing !! Perfect flow of speaking !
@rasarmusic1
@rasarmusic1 5 жыл бұрын
Harvard University: Where *INTERESTING* happens. Vegetarian student’s fidgeting drove my anxiety “rightly” up the wall and the woman’s incessant meandering was agonizingly cringey to listen to. Ed, your patience and knowledge are “absolutely” admirable, as always.
@andreavargas6011
@andreavargas6011 5 жыл бұрын
The girl is not even answering the questions, she repeats the same thing with different words
@PhilosophiesofTravel
@PhilosophiesofTravel 5 жыл бұрын
Really good interviewing and conversational style. Textbook, "how to expose logical inconsistencies" Not making anyone feel stupid, well done.
@nicoledufour545
@nicoledufour545 5 жыл бұрын
ugh I love you so much Ed. You are so amazing at talking to people about it and getting them to think. Every time I'm doing outreach all I think to myself is "WWED".. What Would Ed Do! Lol
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
nicole dufour dangerously good at misleading people
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
One day dumb people will wake up and realize they don’t control their own life, they follow other people like a little sheep👁
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
Gxsmxsk76 You’re projecting. I hope you find the compassion to live the way you know you can, without causing so much harm to animals.
@zain4019
@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын
nicole dufour It’s wonderful you connect with other people and spread the vegan message of compassion for all:) Bless you:)
@NahkriinAhziid
@NahkriinAhziid 5 жыл бұрын
zain don’t worry I’m not stupid enough to go vegan and sacrifice my health. Also vegans still kill a lot of animals
@sailorsenshi4725
@sailorsenshi4725 5 жыл бұрын
Some people were obviously not being honest with them selves. When asked if killing animals was moral, they couldn’t give a straight answer. If you can’t morally agree with it maybe you should think about why that is, honestly with yourself and you’ll realize it isn’. Your choices have to change to align with your morals.
@forvegansakes3574
@forvegansakes3574 5 жыл бұрын
I love your approach Ed. You inspire me to get out there. I can't wait to become active in vegan education!! Much love! -Shane
@DonalUiNeill
@DonalUiNeill 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this. Fantastic to see people who aren't as defensive about their views. You can tell they actually consider the weight of what they're being asked before running themselves into a corner of "hmmm personal choice, taste, overpopulation." Good job, Ed.
@hammypie
@hammypie 5 жыл бұрын
I draw the line at killing things that can obviously feel some sort of discomfort.... I don’t need a science book to tell me a fish or crab doesn’t feel great when it’s being boiled.
@tamcon72
@tamcon72 5 жыл бұрын
It's really amazing to me that I reasoned this out more clearly at age 3 than these obviously bright college kids are doing in this video. They are patently struggling against years of programming, and perhaps after this conversation they are conscious of this.
@featherbladefeatherblade3806
@featherbladefeatherblade3806 5 жыл бұрын
@@tamcon72 lol
@danielhobgen6146
@danielhobgen6146 5 жыл бұрын
@@tamcon72 Some animals move for hours after being killed. Does this mean they are still alive and conscious of feeling? I would say no. Your view seems basic and also probably misunderstands how some animals operate.
@tamcon72
@tamcon72 5 жыл бұрын
@@danielhobgen6146 Animals don't "operate." They are not machines. It is a constant mistake that meat eaters make that, as you are doing, they assume that vegans knows less about animal biology than they do. Many vegans come from farming backgrounds or the slaughtering industry.
@tillyash7603
@tillyash7603 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all that you do X
@catherinecullen9770
@catherinecullen9770 5 жыл бұрын
These people got into Harvard... Just saying... "Are we considering fish as animals?" Really? xD
@markscott1553
@markscott1553 3 жыл бұрын
I’m trying to go Vegan for 7days starting this Saturday coming. All because of your videos Ed. I’m a huge meat eater who before following you, I gave little if any thought to the reasons. Wish me luck everyone. You gotta start somewhere right?
@suicune2001
@suicune2001 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. How did it go? Do you have any questions / concerns?
@veganfortheanimals6994
@veganfortheanimals6994 5 жыл бұрын
Ed drops the Dominion bomb. Nice. Look forward to part 2.
@pegyhill9333
@pegyhill9333 5 жыл бұрын
hey man i see you commenting on all of eds vids so i just wanted to ask you, how long do you think it will be until half of the world is vegan?
@veganfortheanimals6994
@veganfortheanimals6994 5 жыл бұрын
@@pegyhill9333 Tough question to answer. However, for starters, a major shift towards veganism is happening in the UK and in Israel already. Also, the current percentage of people (say here in the US) who are over 70 and who are vegan is extremely small (but they will not be here for that much longer). However, the number of people who are age 25 and under who are vegan is many many times greater. So as the older generation passes on and the younger generations become more vegan, (and also, vegans will raise vegan children) that's when bigger changes will happen, especially with social media bringing awareness to agriculture and slaughterhouses, etc. Then, factor in the climate change issue becoming more pressing and that will spur changes too. (Time is ticking on that). I think there will be a significant paradigm shift within the next 10-15 years. We just need to tip the scales. www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/10/huge-reduction-in-meat-eating-essential-to-avoid-climate-breakdown
@pegyhill9333
@pegyhill9333 5 жыл бұрын
Vegan For The Animals Ⓥ lots of great points thank you! Also the whole reason I went vegan was for the animals and honestly ever since going vegan I now have so many bad dreams about animals being tortured in slaughterhouses. I don’t need to feel guilty anymore so I dont know why I’m just now having these dreams
@veganfortheanimals6994
@veganfortheanimals6994 5 жыл бұрын
@@pegyhill9333 Nice to hear your rationale for changing. Yes, I know what you mean about the nightmares. I haven't watched Dominion or Earthlings, and I went vegan without that. I've seen enough little clips though, that it's had a major impact on me. (My heart breaks, every day in life, just seeing dead animals on the side of the road that were hit by cars). Don't watch those 2 docs. If I did, I might end up in the psych ward. Peace.
@pegyhill9333
@pegyhill9333 5 жыл бұрын
Vegan For The Animals Ⓥ you and I seem to be on the same page here. Anytime I see a clip of a cow getting its throat slit it ruins my whole day. Idk how 98% of Americans can justify supporting that it makes me sick to my stomach. Anyway at least there are some good people out there like us
@n.s.2737
@n.s.2737 5 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching, he made them think by asking the right questions. They will make the connection sooner or later but they surely will 👍
@figgledoi
@figgledoi 5 жыл бұрын
I relate so hard to peoples hair blowing in their faces and them trying a couple times to move it aside then giving up after the 3rd or 4th try
@litalsinai6687
@litalsinai6687 5 жыл бұрын
impressed with your patience and with their genuinely thoughtful answers
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