Has Florida State been 'EMOTIONAL' in potential ACC exit? | College GameDay

[@amsportsmedia]

And this is why ESPN isn't to be taken seriously. You think FSU is challenging the Grant of Rights based on an emotional decision? This has been in the works for over 18 months. These guys are clowns

[@tarheel7406]

Frankly the dec case should have been filed within 6 months of the USC/UCLA news, so much earlier. Regardless, it's FSU's tactics that appear emotional.

[@followthemoneyhoney]

hoping and praying that the gold old boys who inked this deal for the entire conference took kickbacks for which there is a paper trail

[@jabareo]

It’s well documented that FSU and other teams have been trying to leave the ACC for years.

[@tarheel7406]

Rather well documented that members have passed on prior poach attempts, but serious exit efforts really only started upon the TX/OK news (as far as I can tell).

[@vinpin777]

They were offered twice in the early 90s

[@fixituplarry]

Love to see some of these documents. Where are they... Mar a Lago?

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

FSU's "emotional" somehow, meanwhile the NCAA told them the games they play are "meaningless" at best

[@Itsjustlikemagic]

Wrong! The ncaa didn’t tell them nothing. The CFB playoff committee told them that their games are meaningless!

[@DaFactsNoNonsense1713]

@@Itsjustlikemagic what's the difference?

[@american_cosmic]

@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 The CFP is not the NCAA. Two different organizations.

[@michaelewing3401]

I'm watching the game right now and yes the game is meaningless. I was hoping for a competitive game and what I've got is a premiere college team up against a high school team. It's not even halftime and the game is over. Admit it the committee was right! FSU had no business in the championship games.

[@Los150]

Nah emotional is telling an undefeated power 5 school that the league they play in isn’t good enough and then when that school says “Ok, cool. We’ll leave” you switch up and cry “Oh no you’re being emotional. Don’t leave.” ESPN sounds like a 20 year old woman with multiple personality disorder.

[@jlmcgrot]

ESPN seeming surprised at the environment they created.

[@followthemoneyhoney]

i hope the revenue they think they gained by picking the "best tv" make up for reduced interest in watching the orange bowl in particular and bowls in general going forward

[@kingpiniv]

I find it funny that a lot of SEC fans think FSU and Clemson can't compete with the SEC if they move to that conference. Both have a track record of beating SEC teams and have national title wins over SEC teams in the past decade while basically having half the resources SEC schools have. I think they can definitely compete if they're on a level playing field financially

[@gsandy5235]

The SEC doesn't want Florida State because Florida doesn't want intrastate SEC competition. The Big Ten won't want them as FSU is not in the Association of American Universities. The only viable option for them is the Big 12 and they're better off in the ACC.

[@wesleygary6651]

Yeah. sure. Easy to compete as you put it if you recruit 5-star talent and play a 1 or 2 game schedule per year. To be clear--that means you face 2 teams that pose a challenge and the other 10 games are gimmies. It's what Miami did in the 80's. FSU did in the nineties (along with Nebraska) and Ohio State does every year.

[@TheChipper562]

@@gsandy5235 AAU membership is not the barrier that it is being made out to be. First off, because FSU is already on path for it and will be in within the next 5 years. Secondly, if you believe that the B10 would turn down the eyeballs that FSU media market brings because of lack of AAU, then you are mistaken. They didn't boot Nebraska when they lost their AAU card, they won't prevent FSU because they don't have one. Additionally, if you don't think the two big media companies (ESPN and FOX) aren't driving this ship, you are crazy. FOX would love to get a foothold in the south. Lastly, the B12 is an upgrade, albeit very slightly over the ACC in terms of money. like $5 to $10 million per year over the timeframe of the current ACC contract.

[@Dolemite19]

​@@gsandy5235 Florida is on the same level as FSU with Florida being down now but if they continue to stay down best believe the SEC will give Florida the Texas A &M treatment when it came to Texas coming in the SEC . They will get ignored for the better option

[@Bosay831Gaming]

@@wesleygary6651 Yet when they do play "out of their T-shirt size" to use your logic, they have beaten those (SEC) teams consistently too, and that includes FSU and Clemson and not even counting the "other" ACC and BIG 10 teams (since like an dummy you put them in the mix too).

[@butterbook]

How many "powerhouse" teams are there in the SEC? Be honest with yourselves....2.5 maybe...JUST LIKE THE ACC

[@RoadTo19]

2.5 in ACC??? Please share... It has the potential of 3 programs in FSU, Clemson, UM SEC Currently: BAMA UGA HORNS next years Likely: MIZZOU Ole Miss Potential: LS-Who OU Barners Of course they'll end up beating each other up so they don't look as good as they really are.

[@Ramen_Hibachi]

Facts

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

Don't forget; the U is back for the fifteenth year in a row.

[@Fresh-Rocket]

Mcaffee asks who gets the money? And he swerves the question lol it’s ESPN

[@alexroberto6353]

Captain Kirk has steered the ESPN Enterprise into a black hole and warped college football into something unrecognizable.

[@spoooky21]

Say you're an FSU fan w/o saying you're an FSU fan

[@charlesflowers7568]

@@spoooky21a lot of ppl who aren’t Florida State fans think the same thing broski

[@spoooky21]

​@@charlesflowers7568-Florida State Fan

[@butterbook]

@@spoooky21 = Kirk's houseboy

[@haroldplemmons9479]

This is a very ironic video to get emotional in the comments.

[@Chimpnole]

E$PN is in the middle of this mess and I hope their part comes out in the ACC lawsuit. Surely after losing today, they will be on their "I told you so" mantra, despite FSU being down nearly every first and and second string skill player.

[@Bosay831Gaming]

It's already out. ESPN is part of the suit. That's the part they are "not" telling you.

[@davidbrown386]

This is another reason a settlement is coming. I guarantee ESPN does not want their executives on the Witness Stand.

[@shallojalloh]

YOU and me both

[@bdtravels5620]

FSU sucks , they lost 63-3, keep crying 😢

[@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484]

Every 1st and 2nd string player is 44 players …they were not down 44 players

[@hahshi-convo]

I use to like Kirk, but now I don’t want him to talk

[@dfscott62]

Same -- he's just an ESPN schill now.

[@haydenguy2623]

They been discussing an exit since 2022, stop the “emotional” narrative

[@TheLightningSt0rm]

When I was at FSU in 2018 as a student they were talking about it. Nothing new

[@claytonyoung1351]

They should have joined the SEC decades ago.

[@TheLightningSt0rm]

@@claytonyoung1351 That topic came up in the 90s. Hindsight to 30 years ago is pretty pointless

[@claytonyoung1351]

@TheLightningSt0rm no. I am that old and remember it well. The reason it matters is because the SEC was interested then. The SEC is the best place for FSU and they may not have the opportunity to now.

[@davidbrown386]

Not a lawyer but I have read more then once. “If you can’t win on facts, play to emotion.” That is what ESPN is doing. The facts are on the side of Florida State. So ESPN is simply using crocodile tears with this emotional BS. FSU is going to the Big 10. It is just a matter of the cost, year and who ( if anyone is going with them).

[@jackharrington697]

FSU''s real bowl game will be in the court vs ACC after this season is over!!

[@davidbrown386]

I can’t wait until ESPN ends up in the toilet bowl.

[@MusicoHaven]

Why are the hosts acting like they don't know what's going on by asking dumb questions. This has been all over the news and I am sure they were briefed before the show.

[@davidbrown386]

1:59 Pete admitted Florida State will be out of the ACC. If even ESPN admits it, you know it is happening. It is just a matter of how much they have to pay

[@tarheel7406]

Also when and where FSU lands.

[@jsoullife]

That’s crazy tho half a billion to leave the ACC.

[@HumbleJames2177]

@@tarheel7406fsu will go to the BIG but the sec don’t want that so they might try to forced they hand and expect them but I rather go BIG it’s too much bias cause they want to make sure they golden child bama is good

[@tarheel7406]

@@HumbleJames2177 A P2 invite for FSU is likely but not certain. Frankly, FSU's options have only narrowed from the start of this realignment, largely due to its own actions.

[@davidbrown386]

Tarheel7406 has reached troll status.Trolls have 0% credibility. ‘They pick and choose whatever fits their viewpoint. He ( or she) takes and uses what ESPN says that is anti Florida State ( such as the psychological element)and ignores what is positive towards Florida State ( such as out of the ACC and to the Big 10): Do not feed the troll.

[@wgriffin3460]

Florida State being in the Big10 or Pac-12 would totally have fixed this, because they'd have 3-4 losses and would already have played Nebraska in the Fruit Loops Bowl two weeks ago...

[@followthemoneyhoney]

😆

[@darthnatas953]

haha

[@aaronc.7972]

ESPN FSU propaganda continues

[@Robert-xp4ii]

I honestly can't say how much of an impact it'll actually have but I hear numerous fans aren't tuning into ESPN. I believe ESPN's involvement in media rights contracts and input into decisions being made is a huge conflict of interest. Aside from all that, the NIL has ruined college football as well as the roughing and targeting calls. It's gotten soft. I'm not suggesting I want to see players injured but it's soft. I'm over it.

[@robtrout5183]

When they decided to pay college players like you said it ruined CF, they won't be hungry when they go to the pros. There narrative is to ruin CF GO NOLES! 🇺🇲🏈💪

[@followthemoneyhoney]

a lot of fans turn off the sound on ESPN broadcasts and listen via their team's broadcast. the ESPN announcers sound like their on the SEC payroll. it's boring, even if it is your team that's winning

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

The All Cupcake Conference is a joke; fifteen teams could have easily matched fsu's record this and any year.

[@darrinm486]

Why are there so many posts making it seem like FSU can leave the conference next week? It makes zero sense that's not how lawsuits work.

[@ilike2fly1]

After Dec 3rd, anyone who doesn't know that college football is all about the money is not paying attention. Florida State is a blue-blood (because of Bobby Bowden) and one of the most watched teams, no matter who they play. Being watched = massive advertising money. FSU will ONLY go to the Big 10 or SEC because that is where the money is to compete for championships. Fox and the Big 10 are drooling over FSU because they will make them a lot of money and will get then into the the richest area of the country for college football and recruits. The SEC is a better fit for FSU, but both hate each other, however, the SEC may try to get FSU just to keep them from going to the Big 10 and Fox, which would, yes, make them a lot of money. That's the state of college football now.

[@darthnatas953]

FSU "blue-blood" going to make a lot of money for the Sunbelt.

[@KaMiller187]

Uh oh, looks like the committee made the right call in keeping those bums out of the playoffs

[@PlushExt]

A lot of people don’t understand that Clemson and FSU has top 10 recruiting classes yearly with half the resources. It’s simple of those schools join the big 10 or sec they will recruit better, they will make more money with schools traveling to there cities for home games, etc. It’s some intelligent people on this thread but not many who know and encountered college recruiting or coaching football I see

[@mj6493]

ESPN, this is all your fault. You are de$troying college football.

[@robtrout5183]

No respect for any of these guys what so ever, what a joke these analysis are to create a narrative to leave out 13-0 FSU and blame it on Jordan Travis. Nobody believes a word these guys say anymore GO NOLES! 🇺🇲🏈💪

[@xuimod]

FSU quit and that's shameful. FSU players are a bunch of quitters.

[@danaleestephens1686]

ESPN is such hypocritical!

[@TheGoonsies]

They were appropriately left out after all

[@followthemoneyhoney]

FSU has been seriously exploring leaving the useless ACC for years. ESPN/CFP just showed the world what ACC teams have known for years: ACC leadership does not represent or act in the best interest of their schools

[@MrJking065]

The NCAA needs to stop allowing high schools like TCU and FSU play SEC teams.

[@MariaScreamapova]

Georgia 63 Florida State 3

[@TheChrisbarry44]

FL State should of stayed home. What a waste of a bowl game.

[@jlmcgrot]

It is possible that ESPN will lose their stranglehold on college football. It may be one of the reasons they will push for the SEC to take FSU. Sure, they have UF, but there is no revenue coming from UF in a bowl. If FSU goes to the BIG, that conference will have far more national/name brands. The ACC will be divided, with most teams going to the Big XII. The SEC will snag a couple, the BIG will take a couple + Notre Dame, but FOX will own the majority of college football between the two “Big” conferences.

[@ChrisBrooke-l8i]

Wow, the ACC sure thinks highly of themselves, unlike every other football fan in the nation.

[@RoadTo19]

Half a Billion Dollars!!! Plus legal fees... Any estimated potential "lost" revenue by remaining is just a 'too bad situation'. I realise joining another conference with higher media rights could help pay for the cost but it would still takes years. Universities have lost their way. Regardless of how the money is acquired, it would be much better spent on students in many ways, one of which is lower tuition. In the end, it's the students who pay for this, either directly or indirectly. As was alluded, what FSU needs is every University, or some percentage, in the ACC join them and dissolve the conference as a group. Perhaps then there would be no monies owed to the Conference and the Conference would have no obligation to honour its media deals. In my mind, that is very unlikely to happen. Only winners will be the attorneys.

[@venkateshshenoy4888]

Where is FSU even going to go? Academically doesn't fit with the Big 10, so it has to be SEC but do they even want FSU?

[@timothyblack3322]

There will not be a discounted rate, in the B1G with Florida State bringing all 23 Million of Florida, FSU brings more Georgian’s than Georgia Tech. A top-4 to top-8 every year in tv viewership Nationally from 2014-2023. If you go back further FSU rises in tv viewership. ESPN has chosen to throw disparaging comments at the Seminoles.

[@nothingman27511]

Based on FSU's football performance against Georgia and their basketball performance at home against Lipscomb, maybe they could negotiate their way into the Colonial Athletic Conference if they are so determined to make the mistake of leaving the ACC. Why is UNC so coveted when they are 5-12 in their most recent 17 football games against the Wolfpack? I don't get the "brand" argument. NCSU is a larger school, their engineering/STEM alumni make a LOT more money than UNC grads, NCSU hoops went to the NCAA tourney last year while UNC stayed home, UNC has academic scandals and campus violence. I just don't get it. UNC sells more hats to people on the street who never went to college? That's a valuable BRAND??

[@christschool]

Little brother is salty. LOL

[@snugzgiddens3238]

If they were emotional this morning, they’re about to be seriously distraught after this thrashing and embarrassment of a performance from a “playoff team“ HBTFD

[@darthnatas953]

It's funny FSU is trying to leave the ACC with no place to go. Sunbelt it is.

[@stevenwendellnelson8861]

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[@RaisedCane-qn3ts]

I think they're only emotional after getting stomped worse than any other bowl team in history... 63-3 is a B!tch slapping like nobody has ever seen before. Norvell hasn't been able to stop crying since.

[@killac39]

Hey, Florida State should investigate this @$$ whipping

[@FastlifeTrav]

Good bye Gameday, Hello Big Noon Kickoff!!!

[@austin_l]

Where they going? The Sun Belt? Have fun getting beat by Marshall and Louisiana.

[@tycesumerall8718]

Espn is so fullshit it's unbelievable

[@FreeshooterX]

f espn . all of em are clowns

[@spikejones-sz3qv]

ITS WELL DOCUMENTED FOOTBALL IS A TEAM SPORT ! FSU GOT THE ORANGE CRUSH

[@yogidabruh9050]

The fans have been particularly whiney as of late. 😂😂

[@spikejones-sz3qv]

ACC STANDS FOR I CANT COACH HAPPY NEW YEAR

[@arepadetrigo]

FSU exited from reality weeks ago. Will they keep whining about being left out? Even if Texas and Alabama get beat in the CFP, they will have lost to the #1 and #2 team. FSU is being annihilated by the #6 team. Nothing personal against FSU, but the whining got old and this is their comeuppance.

[@Loki76888]

The whole 1st team checked out, because they got ESPNed.

[@garybrown5391]

"Give us, us free!"

[@2ndArmored]

Haha, Amistad reference!

[@kodiakgriz2296]

Thamel is emotional lol new Guy to replace guy who is at Fox doing NFL not close talent wise

[@charliegarcia6677]

Ain’t no way they are coming to the sec 😂 good luck being 13-0 ain’t no team in the sec being 13-0 anymore with ou and Texas and upcoming mizz and TN being competitive with lsu Georgia and Alabama

[@jsoullife]

They leaving because of the ACC president for not voting on the 12 team playoff for this year

[@tarheel7406]

Logical nonsense, but perhaps an FSU emotional response. If the ACC and FSU knew at the start of the season that FSU would finish 1 of 3 undefeated P5 champs, they would have voted against the playoff expansion to be 1 of 4 rather than 1 of 12. One only still votes to expand if they knew the CFP would be corrupted and snub FSU regardless.

[@jsoullife]

@@tarheel7406 I get what your saying what they would still have been in if they had the 12 team playoff if it start this year 🤷‍♂️

[@tarheel7406]

@@jsoullife That is hindsight and lazy. It's irrational to blame others for doing what one would have wanted at the time. Is FSU claiming that it should be treated like a child and others should decide what's best?

[@spikejones-sz3qv]

GO DAWGS 63/3 ORANGE BOWL VICTORY

[@robsfutbol6832]

Well by the way this game is going it sounds FSU should have worried more about playing football vs a top team like Georgia instead of protesting. The lack of strength of schedule is showing now why they weren't selected despite being 13-0

[@spikejones-sz3qv]

ESPN SHOULD BE BOUGHT OUT BY ELON MUSK

[@rakejackson7354]

They should join the OVC. they would be in the top 3 in that conference more times than not. 🤣🤣🤣

[@RickHorejsi]

I think that they belong in the acc 😂

[@thetruthandnothingbutthetr6484]

Who wants those cry babies in their conference

[@iancaen2977]

Talking heads talking nonsense...

[@GruneD]

Private equity? Do they know how that works? I can see Florida St going bankrupt 😅

[@thomashockaday5927]

Yeah PE firms do not give loans 😭 sounds more like Private Credit

[@timbaker2167]

Real men move on

[@cademartin7637]

FSU, MIA, and Clemson need to bounce back and rebuild the ACC. I don't want a world where the only two conferences are SEC and BIG 10.

[@tarheel7406]

Doesn't remedy the revenue gap concern. ESPN had to renegotiate close enough to the B1G/SEC benchmark. It didn't, so the ACC has moved on to the rebuilding stage with the preemptive +3 expansion.

[@jsoullife]

It’s starting to come down like that I mean FSU can go to the big12 they would have a field day with every team in that conference 😂

[@megashark5924]

@@jsoullifeNo one wants the big 12

[@jsoullife]

@@megashark5924 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ who’s going to take them sec ain’t taking them, big ten maybe the closest conference is the big 12

[@Gators1216]

Fsu just realized what playing in the sec would feel like Tonight lol they gunna stay in the acc hahaha

[@npierce14]

Biggest crybaby franchise

[@tarheel7406]

I wouldn't call it emotional, just amateur if not incompetent tactics. There was nothing to be gained by publicly disparaging the ACC and the other members. Filing for a dec alone would have been less hostile. By going down the path that it did, FSU now has no allies, it looks less attractive to the B1G/SEC, and staying in the ACC is no longer an option if P2 prospects turn bad. No other tentpole that has moved or is expected to move during this realignment has acted the same way.

[@trenitty81]

Lol no allies! The big10 will welcome them with open arms. FSU is a top 10 brand, the sec would welcome them to!

[@tarheel7406]

@@trenitty81 a) Neither the B1G nor SEC can openly help FSU. b) I'm referring to ACC allies. c) It's rather clear that the SEC doesn't want FSU, and the B1G is an open question. Is this where I "lol"?

[@cedrickt.814]

🤔🤦🏿‍♂️

[@michaelewing3401]

I told you FSU had no place in the top 10 even. Georgia is tearing them apart like there's some high school team. You FSU fans still think they should have been in the top four teams?😂 No more griping from you sit down and be quiet.

[@followthemoneyhoney]

FSU: nine NFL opt-outs and injured #5 heisman candidate QB. UGA: none of that. no surprise they played a JV team and won

[@davidleeroth357]

They definitely don't want to come to the SEC.

[@tres311]

SEC has to pick up FSU. It’ll be criminal if they join big10. SEC needs to add FSU and Miami or Clemson. I think Clemson is probably the better fit

[@redcapote4760]

Out of curiosity, what makes you feel Clemson is the better fit? I just can't imagine FSU or Miami in the SEC. I'd sooner take Miami, actually, than FSU. The money is there in Miami for the SEC conference.

[@followthemoneyhoney]

of course clemson is a better fit... they wear orange!

[@Grayson950815]

@@redcapote4760seriously?? Miami is a dead program with no stadium living on visions of 20+ years ago…

[@redcapote4760]

@@Grayson950815 Miami is a program with 5, count them, 5 national championships. They simply haven't been getting the money they need. Invest when it's cheap, right? And there's a lot of money in that area to be had, the program just hasn't received what it needs to receive. The SEC will help that happen. Give it 4-5 years and this program will begin to whip on the overrated teams ranked 10-25 in the country.

[@brianransom2626]

FSU and Clemson to the SEC.

[@LoCoVANole]

Nope - don’t want to be anywhere near that trailer park conference. B1G is overall more prestigious and offers a more intriguing away schedule.

[@tarheel7406]

@@LoCoVANole Stop the sour grapes. FSU is settling for the B1G, which is still better than most schools will get in this realignment.

[@MetalRush666]

8 ten win+seasons in twenty yrs or so. It's not like they are dominating the conference.

[@770_gammer]

You are young. Ask your parents what FSU was in the 80s and 90s. They were not scared to play anyone anywhere. They made ACC what it is today.

[@Glatisant_galla]

You sound like a 🤡 right now lolol

[@avantesmith6442]

Gotta be young. Even with Clemson’s recent success, FSU has owned that conference for almost 30 years. The ACC won’t be the same without them

[@tiyalewhitehurst338]

​@@770_gammer exactly

[@KingShonBBN]

Clemson was an after thought when fsu was dominating the acc. FSU at one point was winning the series 20-8

[@_2LiveQ]

All this crying and they still have 2 years left in the ACC 🤣🤡

[@Bosay831Gaming]

Yeah, FSU is "crying", meanwhile from where I sit it looks the the SEC/EPSN partnership is playing defensive propaganda.

[@_2LiveQ]

@@Bosay831Gaming ESPN maybe but I can guarantee the SEC is not worried about FSU 🤣