Has Samsung perfected the flip phone? - Samsung Galaxy Z Flip5

[@MiniSmith1]

From what I heard, you are allowed to open specific apps on the cover screen and there is a setting in the "labs" section to allow non optimized apps as well.

[@TheSpartan948265]

THIS! I used Labs so I could use other apps.

[@kb24theMVP]

They always show how little they know about the phones they "review". It's like all they're doing is read the spec sheet.

[@j.francisward1897]

I get its just an unboxing, but is it that hard to check on features like this? Plus there were moments hey referred to the flip5 as the flip4, not a huge deal but just seems unprofessional

[@MiniSmith1]

@kb24theMVP They get review units early and film before launch. They didn't look at other reviewers either out of respect to their own unfiltered opinions, or this was filmed before embargo lifted. Since they only knew what the manufacturer told them, they must not have gone searching through the settings. Sometimes, the spec sheet is all they have over a phone.

[@doomy_doomy2225]

So you have to make an effort to use it like a normal phone where as with the razer plus it just works? You have to be pretty brand loyal to defend a anti consumer choice like that. Making the consumer do the work to make something work when the razer just works. Ya no.

[@homermorisson9135]

Once more, regarding Security Updates: As it is now mandatory by E.U. law for smartphone manufacturers to provide security updates for at least 5 years, you can be pretty much 100% sure that the same will be true for all the other markets as well, as there's no reason not to push those updates if you have to provide them anyways.

[@jomeyqmalone]

Unfortunately there are reasons. Validating and getting the updates approved by each country and each carrier within that country is possibly the biggest hurdle to releasing updates for many companies. And if you think the unlocked versions of phones might get the update sooner than the carrier models, in the US is been just the opposite in my experience, because the unlocked version update has to be approved by ALL the major carriers, and usually lags far behind the updates for carrier specific versions

[@ZK_Reuben]

What about fold5? linus's opinion is important to me. His previous note9 that he hadn't replaced in many years made me happy as an Apple fanboy. Although he is now on the fold3, the heat of the fold3's 888 processor turned me off and the 3's under screen camera is just too easy to gaze at. Overall, I'm looking forward to Linus reviewing the fold5. if he gives the fold5 a favorable review, I'll be able to go many years without replacing my phone and save a ton of money.😂

[@Deja117]

I see some downsides to a foldable. The bulkiness is 1 thing to take into consideration, the longevity of the screen is also another thing you should think of... There's also not as much space for battery, since you either use 2 smaller batteries, or 1 battery that only goes on half of the phone, with the external display on the other half. Honestly just seems like a fun gimmick to me.

[@slizgi86]

Polish channel (but in english) Mrkeybrd tested the hinge, they manually flipped it over 400K times, even underwater, with sand, flour with sugar and eggs, it's a good hinge. Motorola died at 126K...

[@GamerDadof2]

I was immediately disappointed when i saw it wasn't Linus doing this review. Really was hoping for his input.

[@veryboringname.]

Linus is a Fold user not a Flip user though. He'd have more insight into the Fold 5 than a Flip.

[@ShortCircuit]

Linus doesn't use the Flip style phones, but he'll be covering the Fold5 soon!

[@GamerDadof2]

@@veryboringname. Very little difference between the 2 devices in the grand scheme of it all.

[@GamerDadof2]

@ShortCircuit Holy crap I got a reply from the channel. Sweet. No hate to the host either. I just know Linus is experienced with folding devices.

[@veryboringname.]

@@GamerDadof2 I have both and I disagree with that. They're very different phones with very different use cases.

[@ndeezlo]

“You just doubled its thickness.” “No, I made it smaller.”

[@xxqqzzaa]

1:39 "On top we have nothing but a Michael."

[@XxMsrSzprzxX]

Thanks for pointing out what basically no other reviewers did in regards to the Razr's cover display. Its a marketing gimmick and a spec sheet tick. They just wanted to claim they had the most diagonal space even if its taken up in the edge by cameras. In full screen mode you're losing half an app's navigation panel, how is that acceptable? If you force a square aspect ratio on the Razr to have useable apps, the working area is considerably smaller than the Z Flip5's.

[@NainGeantMiniature]

All I want to know is if it can be programmed to do the start trek communicator sound when flipped open. If it does not, I'm not interested.

[@virtualmidwest3394]

been thinking about getting a folding phone ever since the last time i had one back in 2006

[@SiegfriedSTM]

Having no expandable storage is an instant kill.

[@wilderjacob6]

Ohh boy I just ordered the Moto razr plus and can't wait to use it😆😆

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

You guys need to put more work and time in to researching on these Samsung devices. It’s honestly infuriating how most of the reviews for Samsung products here feel rushed and lazily made, and that is even more frustrating considering you guys took far longer than anyone else to get these videos out. I hope you guys take this advice to improve your content.

[@debracummings3580]

This is the fold I traded my s22 ultra for. I wanted something that would fit in my pockets and not so damn heavy.

[@m3w3k]

I dont understand, why Samsung don't want the camera under the display in the flip.

[@Nova2127U]

I got the Flip 3 just because I knew if I got one from Motorola it would be alot harder fighting them in repairs than it would be Samsung for when it inevitably does break. I like competition, but Motorola's repair services are not great.

[@RealGengarTV]

1:48 Vcircuit! Mic hole here

[@tipoomaster]

Could you do these hot/cold performance tests with the next iPhones too? I rarely see good benchmarking on them

[@AlmostBrokeLbs]

I want linus to do an update on his z fold 3 daily driver. I just got z fold 2 and I am so happy with it.

[@silversonic1]

It might have been how it was recorded, but the Flip 4 did sound different in the video. I can usually trust your ears, though, so I'm sure it was a recording thing.

[@Prence]

Says that now, next year a new phone will come out and the next phone will come out and this phone will be crap. LOL.

[@jwdickieson]

8 gigs of ram.... my note 9 is 8 gigs of RAM😂

[@tayrall]

I think it's a balance between power and battery efficiency

[@mrfishfr]

So closing the phone was good to protect the screen and now they add bigger screens who can be scratch on the outside? (:

[@BenjiB0P]

I appreciate an actual review on the flip, Riley was heavily biased last year and it didn't seem like a fair look at the phone

[@arslanmalik151]

Now I have a device to remind me of a SP

[@OakTurtle_]

Looking forward to the Fold 5 video

[@vishaldaboss5063]

Tab s9 review when?

[@TheRealFenwick]

They really need to improve the camera and it's a solid phone

[@HiddenRamza]

Great cover bro. I'll keep watching as long as it's not Raley doing reviews with his nothing is better than appl crap. Again ty for the non bias outlook

[@JimFeig]

They do not sound the same. The 5 sounded like it had more bass.

[@n9ne]

can't wait for these things to become no more than $250 i don't use phones a whole lot outside of banking but i like the compact design.

[@TheTactialLlama]

I think the inner screen is still too narrow, I’ve had the, had the flip 3 and now have the Find N2 Flip, and the 21 x 9 aspect ratio of the Oppo feels more more like a regular phone.

[@hamzaHrv]

This isn't a regular phone is it now?

[@TheTactialLlama]

@@hamzaHrv no, but the Oppo’s aspect ratio is more in line with standard phones, the Flip feels quite narrow.

[@hamzaHrv]

@leeupperton6298 it is long but that's because of Flex mode. Gives both screens more relastate and you generally get used to it anyways so it's dumb to argue about.

[@TheTactialLlama]

@@hamzaHrv it's not dumb to argue about, I've literally had both and the oppo feels more like a normal phone and can do the flex mode stuff just fine.

[@hamzaHrv]

@leeupperton6298 I have only had the flip and I gave you the reason Samsung made the flip the dimension that they did. Samsung has spent 30x more on R&D than Oppo and the engineers decided what was optimal. You can disagree but you can't tell me that your opinion is worth more then self sentiment. Go use the Oppo then, no biggy

[@nacho3570]

I generally like these videos, and the host is really nice, but some details have been slipping past the team lately. Every other hands on video I've seen mentions the fact that you can officially use any app on the cover screen using Labs+Good Lock, yet Jake complained about that twice.

[@doomy_doomy2225]

Just look at the razer. The razer just works without having to do extra work. Why would a consumer want to do extra work because they were too lazy to just make it work without effort. Ya think the average consumer will ever do that? No. The complaints are valid.

[@veryboringname.]

I agree, I think it affects their credibility and reputation. When videos don't contain accurate information too many times, it reduces the value of their videos as I'd go elsewhere with a better reputation first.

[@ALPHA-nn2ko]

​@@doomy_doomy2225good lock is an official app by Samsung. It's the only app The average person should know about😂

[@thesaralkumar]

From the PoV of a consumer, the good lock and labs workaround is a hassle and many people won’t know. For enthusiasts that’s important. I agree they should do a thorough research but maybe their TG is different?

[@hamzaHrv]

​@doomy_doomy2225 Some apps look broken on both the Razer and Flip hence why Samsung didn't want to give it to everybody because most normal people would complain

[@danielt91]

You CAN use any app on the outside screen, look in the Labs section in the phone's "Settings"

[@veryboringname.]

5:31 It was really easy to find; it comes with 4 years of major version updates (which is longer than Pixels) and 5 years of security updates. They've also released security update before Pixels in the past.

[@leonro]

Do note that the android version on samsungs is older than the pixel equivalent of that year (which launch with the new version), so I'd still consider it about equal.

[@veryboringname.]

​@@leonro It's a little confusing due to staggered release dates, but IMHO going by release year isn't a good method as Pixels are released in October while the equivalent Samsungs are released in Feb. e.g. the Pixel 7 which was released in Oct 2022 will stop at Android 16. But the S23 which was released just four months later will stop at Android 17. So for nearly this whole year so far, if you bought a flagship Samsung instead of a flagship Pixel, you'd be getting an extra major version update over the Pixel. There is only the four-month window between Oct and Feb where buying a flagship Pixel would get you an extra major version update over a flagship Samsung.

[@leonro]

@@veryboringname. I was thinking more along the lines of a Samsung Flip vs Pixel, though the Pixel fold will last even less and it's a more comparable device.

[@A_Balanced_Breakfast]

Apple still supports the iPhone 7, which came out 7 years ago. The fact that a phone that has many known defects from the manufacturer, that costs nearly, or more than twice the cost of a flagship phone is not supported to the same degree as the direct competitor is fucking laughable. Samsung repairs are also consistently more expensive, take longer, have fewer repair locations, and are just generally more inconvenient in the case of data loss (iCloud is better than any data backup system Google or Samsung provides, objectively, full stop there is no comparison) which makes it clear that these foldable phones are just a stupid choice unless you have more money than you know what to do with. The few software features that Samsung offers do not outweigh the massive price premium of the foldable phones. It's bordering on a scam considering the screen protector is known to regularly peel away from the LCD and then cause damage to the LCD when folded, resulting in damage that the warranty does not cover.

[@rakeshiyer5637]

@@A_Balanced_Breakfast Well I respectfully disagee regarding the cloud option. Samsung Cloud offers 15GB of free storage, while iCloud only offers 5GB of free storage. Samsung Cloud is compatible with Android, iOS, and Windows devices, while iCloud is only compatible with Apple devices. Samsung Cloud allows you to upload files up to 100GB in size, while iCloud only allows you to upload files up to 50GB in size. Samsung Cloud keeps a 30-day history of your files, so you can restore previous versions if necessary. iCloud only keeps a 10-day history of your files. The only best feature I like about iCloud is iCloud is generally considered to be more secure than Samsung Cloud. This is because iCloud uses end-to-end encryption, which means that your data is encrypted on your device before it's sent to iCloud. I think Samsung is also working on the encryption part. speaking of foldables, a foldable phone can be both a phone and a tablet, which can be very convenient. You can fold it up and put it in your pocket when you're not using it, and then unfold it when you need a larger screen. An iPhone cannot do that till now. A foldable phone can be great for productivity. You can use the larger screen to multitask, or to work on projects that require more space. I am yet to see any iPhone doing "proper" mutitasking. If you say no one does multitasking, you're in a group similar to Apple cult. Also Foldable phones are a new technology, and they're still in their early stages of development. If you're interested in new technology and want to be on the cutting edge, then a foldable phone might be worth the price. Wait till Apple comes with a foldable and see how it woos the market because of its clever "Marketing strategy" Also the iPhone 7 with latest iOS will be dog slow in terms of performance.

[@SEMIA123]

It's pretty common knowledge that Samsung does 4 years of OS and 5 years of security updates, I'm kind of disappointed that a channel of this significance couldn't figure that out.

[@GrandSil90]

Right? Miss me with that shit "couldn't find anything online". Literally the first result is "samsung is offering 4 years of major android updates and 5 of security"

[@TroublesomeOwl]

"pretty common knowledge" isn't an official statement by samsung, so repeating that is less than useless.

[@pedr0_m198]

honestly the new gamers nexus video just the cherry on top, all these videos are half assed and badly made first impressions. They dont do any research and dont even care about getting their facts right

[@parthmalani6286]

I know its a short circuit but I expected you to get the basic stuff right especially when the phone is 5th gen down. You can run all apps on the cover screen Samsung provides 4 years of OS updates and 5 for security, Its track record is good and of being on time.

[@LPR44]

I rarely downvote an LMG video, but the lack of information (OS and security support, Good Lock + Labs for all apps on external screen) which every other channel has covered or can be easily found makes this video feel just as a checked box. I do plan to get one as (other) reviewers have convinced me.

[@tiadaid]

ShortCircuit has always been about short overviews. It's never been about full reviews...

[@LPR44]

@tiadaid yet they did the whole performance/battery comparison, which leaves it on a very weird place. I didn't comment to add salt, but to provide context on why I felt the need to downvote. Whether it is useful for them, idk

[@eclipsemantis]

​@@tiadaidAnd yet they don't have the information required for a short overview

[@FireEmperor_A]

Bruh this is ShortCircuit..... 😑

[@evan9145]

@@tiadaid yeah, but I guess the use of apps on the external screen is pretty important. I feel it should have been covered.

[@ERNotso]

can't believe it took Short Circuit this many folding smartphone reviews to realise that the form factor is good for small pockets

[@leon2952]

There is a way to use (almost) any app on the front screen but it needs some setting up first. But all is available in the galaxy store.

[@hansfranzvandan]

Its really interesting to see how this tech has developed so fast. Look at the og fold with huge bezels and a meh screen quality. This is just so impressive to see.

[@BarryTGash]

Maybe I'm missing something but the hinge isn't the tech - it's the screen and that doesn't really change at the moment. A plastic, factory fitted, screen protector that Samsung will replace once in the 1st year for free. Don't get me wrong, I really would like a foldable just because it could fit better in my rucksack but for now even this gen is still early adopter tech.

[@mwmayerle]

I hope they've fixed the screens. I have an older model and the screen is cracking along the hinge, which is frustrating.

[@metallurgico]

they just wanted you to buy the crappy display first so you would upgrade to the better one later

[@c1fi364]

@@iamaduckquack you seem about as unintelligent as this comment would point to, they couldn't have released it sooner because the thing that makes this phone so good is all the research and development they have done over the past 4 years and all of the criticisms of the community.

[@c1fi364]

@@BarryTGash not wrong but also nowhere close to correct, the tech is MOST CERTAINLY the hinge, that is the main focus of improvements this year and i have no idea how you thought that it wasn't the tech, tis gen is also closing in on the final design and should no longer be considered "early adopter tech" because of how advanced all of the components are, the only thing that will be improved over the next generations is the screen crease, the outer screen, and the cameras, along with the typical cpu improvements over the years,

[@SRC267]

9:46 - the reason for having a flip

[@모댕-k7u]

samsung's premium phone such as s, z series they promised of 4 years of major update and 5 years of security update which is one year more than what google does for pixel line up. for most of a series they support 3 major and 4 security

[@wouwout]

You can easily add a selection of apps to the front screen and with some tinkering run any app there. How could you have missed this

[@Goose-ez6hb]

Probably because it involves experimental settings under the "labs" feature, and not natively supported like Motorola

[@extra4542]

They did not research/prepare well enough for this video

[@Nokav]

did you remember to take off all the packaging this time?

[@Hman9876]

I've been waiting for a foldable that feels like the form factor has matured. Samsung flip 5 feels like its really close. If I end up needing a replacement for my beloved note 20 ultra I may consider a flip 5

[@wheredaboof6492]

Get the S23 Ultra

[@kaichidraws7787]

It's thicker but its also smaller vertical space wise. Like my phone wont fit in my jeans pocket lengthwise but this will even if its thicker because its half the length. It wont fall off because its inside the pocket so i can understand why people would gravitate to this form factor.

[@jomeyqmalone]

We've reached the point where the external screen is bigger and higher res than my first android phone (Acer Liquid E) Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Smart watches blew past it in other specs a long time ago

[@senna476]

Short circuit reviews are getting worse and worse. Just do your homework before doing a review/unboxing. I can not understand how Linus can accept this. You have a whole team to figure things out. There are youtubers alone with 100k subs doing a better job. Stop doing unboxings to check a box off.

[@choahjinhuay]

You and Linus both made the same mistake. Thinking no cable before looking through the packaging. SMH, Gamers Nexus was so right about your sloppiness.

[@Hazel.Autumn]

I got a flip 3 certified refurbished excellent for $320 a couple weeks ago and im not sure Id go back to a regular phone. The form factor is perfect for me and i cant wait to get the flip 5 for $350 in 2 years

[@BananaKimchiPie]

please go back to actual first impressions. These short circuit videos have become lazy "review" videos

[@comesalot]

no pls don't, I don't care about the first impression of some guy, little Reviews are nice

[@labmeeting]

Just went with the Flip 5 as a part of my digital reduction attempt, along with a Withings watch. Open for the experiment. There's always the S24 around the corner if this doesn't work out!

[@rbasi25]

how do you like your flip 5? I would love an update as I am debating if I should get this.

[@labmeeting]

Honestly, this is the most fun and interesting phone I've had in a very long time. Seems obvious but: you get a normal slab phone, so no big deal there, but you also get a compact screen to use more minimally as you wish (starting podcasts, checking messages etc...). It's definitely reduced my screen time, and has added a little quirk into my life. Don't think I'm going back to a slab phone any time soon. Only downside: no zoom camera. Not a huge deal, but if you take full advantage of the multiple cameras on flagship phones, you'll definitely notice the fewer lenses

[@BlueKnight87]

Make sure to get Linus hosting for the Fold5. I wanna see what fun dbrand cooks up for him there🤣🤣🤣

[@flackenstien]

I don't care about foldables for myself, but I want the tech to advance.

[@maximusmedia76]

It may have been different in-person, but in this video there was a clear difference in sound quality between the 4 and 5. The 5 was not as tinny or echoe-y as the 4. But as far as flip style phones, it has to be the best option for that form factor.

[@Haffels]

balls

[@DoRC]

I get that this isn't supposed to be a full review channel but this whole not quite knowing everything about the subject matter of the video kind of gets old. If the video were like 2 minutes long and didn't cover basically everything about the product then I could say it's acceptable but the reality is this really has become a full-on review channel and the presenter should know everything about the subject matter. You can use pretty much whatever app you want on the cover screen using labs and the update schedule is pretty well known as well.

[@allyouneedtoknow8135]

it's a casual, hands-on testing channel that does a bit of reviewing. It's not meant to be in-depth and the testers aren't meant to know everything about the product, they're meant to be like an average person who just bought the product.

[@DoRC]

@@allyouneedtoknow8135 Yes as I explained in my original comment that was the initial intent of the channel but it kind of has become more like the de facto review channel for the brand. The videos over 10 minutes long, they had labs testing, they went over pretty much everything about the phone. If this was just a few minute video just showing the initial impressions and then they were going to follow up with a full review video on the LTT channel I'd feel differently but the LTT channel doesn't do reviews nearly as much as they used to And I wouldn't expect to see a review of this phone on that channel. Pretty much what we saw on this video is probably all we're going to get

[@best591]

"The performance issues will probably be solved over time". Yeah, still waiting for those to be resolved on my S22 Ultra (Exynos)....

[@hamzaHrv]

Mistakes in the video# Cover screen can run any app Samsung has been sending out monthly updates (even faster then Google sometimes) for years now Lab testing is just wrong and messed up/ doesn't match any other reviewer or my own experience.

[@divyamthakur]

the amount of times you guys miss some proper facts and details is getting way too much with the recent videos. The update thing and 3rd party apps thing is actually really easy to figure out if you guys did some research. Ofc mistakes happen sometimes but many other videos from you guys miss out on some important details which in turn hurt your credibility. I hope you guys look into this in future

[@arhontas47]

Once again almost reviewing something within barely knowing anything about the device cause they barely get to use it.if they did they would know they are able to put every app in the front through labs... not that i care about fold 5 but it's definitely why I choose other channels than watching these

[@MobiusGT]

thank you for changing the host. Riley really is a terrible host especially when he "doesn't understand" who a device is for

[@piplup10203854]

I've never been a fan of the flip phones, liked the Tmobile Sidekick, or the Sony Ericsson phones a lot. My sister and father had the motorola razr phones but I'm not an Android fan. I had a samsung galaxy 5 or something and it was constantly freezing on me that I had to take my cover and my case off and then the battery and all that several times so I went back to Iphone, they never glitch or freeze on me so it was an easy choice for me. I hated having to do that with the Samsung phone so if Iphone has a flip phone version maybe but never Android again for me no thank you.

[@UnyieldingMass]

Gotta say, I got the Rzer + folding phone and I almost never open the phone. The cover screen is more than good enough for what I use a phone for, and the best part is that I can put it in my shirt pocket.

[@m241m]

Flip phones looks really good but I don't know how to use it if screen can be broken with simple nail scratch 😮 There's something wrong with it.. Samsung even provides one time repair for screen.

[@ultrxlight]

it's not as fragile as you think, you would have to do it on purpose to damage it with a fingernail

[@m241m]

@@ultrxlight but you can't do it even on purpose with regular glass screen. Imagine crosswalk on high load street, a car whizzes by next to you and you squeeze the phone hard 😁

[@ultrxlight]

@@m241m I understand what you're trying to say, but i had every fold from 1 till 5, and the screen was of questionable durability only in the 1st one. since fold 2 i've never had any scratches on the folding screen, absolutely none. also squeezing the phone wouldn't cut it, you would have to REALLY jam your fingernail with full force

[@Ak-ht2tu]

Video feels off Bring Linus to review new phones Feels like he is talking and talking no feelings or nothing This doesn't feel like ltt video

[@c1fi364]

there is literally an app in the app store that is made by Samsung so that you can launch any app on the cover screen, doing even 5 seconds of research or watching the first 20 seconds of another video would have shown you that, it really makes me wonder how thorough the performance testing is if you missed this obvious detail.

[@Th3Shrike]

Should note you can technically put any app you want on the cover screen after you install some password app or something

[@shadowviscane1]

i preordered through tmobile and got upgraded to the 512 for free. honestly the form factor is a big point for me. but i do love the bigger screen than on my old phone, and the front screen is great. I would have liked for you guys to cover the fingerprint reader which is really quick.

[@chadultrapromax1735]

Here I am getting a deal. The phone costs around 1200$ and with exchange and stuff I am getting it for around 900$ so yea thinking of pulling the trigger

[@The_LoFi_Political_Guy]

Ltt is rebranding itself Artesian

[@vivago727]

I think the cover screen should be able to go on low-refresh-rate. You probably use this as an always-on-display and this would increase the battery life significantly if you use sth like the clock on it

[@merritt2014]

I'll just never get the appeal of flip touch screen phones outside of it just being different for the sake of being different, lol. Just feels really counter-intuitive to add an additional mechanical component to your phone with the hinge that just doesn't really need to be there and will wear out over time.

[@neruwu]

before they had a full outside screen i'd agree but now it's really useful. The smaller form factor makes the device much easier to handle when on the go since it fits perfectly in one hand and all UI elements can be used with one thumb. No more dual wielding the phone to navigate it, no more balancing of a huge glass slab, easier to stow away and it uses less battery when on the outside screen (though that point is kinda lessened by flip phones having smaller batteries)

[@imopn]

I know a few peeps that have them and love them. Personally I prefer the Pixel fold type design

[@HerbaMachina]

0:27 "not super high quality" and yet it actually lasts the lifetime of the device with proper care unlike any apple charging cable that your lucky to get 4 months out of.

[@Ryunigia]

2:25 isn't it the 5 that folds completely? what gab on the 5 is he mentioning?

[@moortu]

The flip can be opened like 400.000 times even with HORRIBLE circumstances. The motorola only lasted 150.000 in normal conditions

[@zengwenxin8402]

with the experimental feature, you can actually use some apps on the cover screen

[@RossMKF1]

The coolest thing about this is using it as an emulator like a game boy but the durability still iffy

[@gingerelvis]

I hope Bell covers the razr. Motorola don't get the love they deserve

[@fanstalingibs5585]

You guys made this but not the Moto Razr+? 😔

[@Jasontyo]

I wonder if folding will ever make it to the entry level. I dont need an outer screen

[@bennosubman]

I need help, I’m thinking about swapping from 14 pro max to z flip 5, what’s your opinions? I’m seriously in love with one ui and the whole flip phone thing, but is it a downgrade or an upgrade?

[@senna476]

Only downgrade in camera performance. Flip 5 lacks a telelens.

[@bennosubman]

@@senna476 you think it’d be a nice upgrade? I’ve never owned a Samsung before, feel like I’d like this one

[@senna476]

@@bennosubman Its not really a upgrade more like something different. I like things that are exciting more than boring stuff thats works very good.

[@_Ace._]

Riley's video was horrible so cluless boomer vibes

[@evangraessle1674]

The 4 outperforms the 5? Wow! that's so surprising! Still, I wonder, maybe the Labs team screwed up the chart? Who knows?

[@twonibbleonebyte]

Preordered and it's coming early! I do hope they ass support on the flex screen for other chat apps such as Teams for when i'm working.

[@charlieholmes2083]

I can’t speak for the Motorola but so far my z flip 5 is the best. I can make it compact or bigger depends on circumstances and no Apple can do that. The quality of the video is On par if not better compare to my 13 pro max. I’m tired of big phones and I miss my razor phone so I bought this razor-quasi phone and it did not disappoint. I used this primarily for call and text - haven’t tried vid call though I never used it that way anyways. I am not big in cameras so I can’t speak for that either. If I am in the meeting and need to send a bunch of pdf or different types of email, then I use my iPad Pro with or without keyboard. Small screen just won’t do it for me and IPad Pro hands down is the beast when it comes to middle ground size at least for me. So all in all my z flip 5 is Godly when it comes to fun, stealth-ish, conveniences, and just first-class.

[@daniellong8665]

IMHO the benchmark graphs jumping around from " higher is better" to "lower is better" has always been hard to follow without pausing the video. Could you guys put maybe a visual cue on the graphs to indicate which side, left or right, is better?

[@John_1920]

A slight nit-picking report of sorts, you accidentally said "versus a tiny opening on the flip 5 here" when you meant "the flip 4," because you were comparing the flip 5's completely flat design versus the flip 4's gap.

[@_mike]

Seriously? Couldn't they make the front camera under the display? It would be perfect on a folding phone. For high quality selfies, you can use the main camera, since it's a folding phone, and you don't need the best results for video calls.

[@littlejack59]

I really want to get a zflip but Samsung has just become a worse version of apple over the years which just means you pay to much for what is essentially garbage controlled by the manufacturer. (Ive had both for many years) Gonna switch to a google pixel hopefully before they follow the same path. Then maybe nothing will be a extremely competitive by then.

[@TrojanOptimus]

Im sorry but why are we undermining the Motorola razr ultra here, it has LTPO display on both inside and outside, both high refresh rate, actually has a dust resistance rating, bigger battery, faster charging. Only downset is the sd 8+ gen 1 chipset in it. Which I feel is better optimised by now.

[@nanaki-seto]

And in a month or 3 the screen will become damaged and ruined

[@fahimfiros6139]

if your careful about the phone…it wont get damaged 🤭

[@Anna_Rae]

My best friend recently got the flip 5 and loves it. She’s able to fit more stuff in her mini purse thanks to that form factor. She also said she likes being able to do light tasks on the cover display, and that helps her not get so easily sucked into using her phone for hours.

[@vinicius401]

Thank you for taking your time to share your friend's input. I'm also interested in this phone mainly for not get sucked into other stuff in full screen. I'm glad it works for your friend. Also, flipping it open and closed has got to be a great for fidgetting.

[@user-me1mv4vy9q]

It should also help to save more battery cuz it's a smaller display, but I wonder how it'd compare to the interior display which is ltpo oled

[@Mattgyver1987]

I was Able to upgrade From my Flip4 to a flip5 512 GB model for only a 100 dollars. No-brainer.

[@Jensen871]

I have been thinking about getting a folding phone ever since they came out but have always been scared about durability. I have an s22 ultra right now and I have dropped it a lot and it's been Prefect. Im just scared that it I dropped the fold or the flip it would not survive.

[@RichWhiteUM]

My wife drops her phone as much as Linus drops $1000 PC components. Her co-worker told her not to get the flip. She had one and it broke when she dropped it off her couch.

[@Jensen871]

@@iamaduckquack That really sucks. I love the idea of the fold but I need it to survive.

[@Jensen871]

@@GH0STST4RSCR34M not counting if it's dropped on the concrete. I'm sure if I have a case it would be fine but I don't want to risk it with a almost 2000 dollar phone.

[@evan9145]

I have a flip 4 and the durability is a problem for me even with a case. I dropped it when it was closed, the phone landed on the hinge which wasn't protected by the case and the middle of the screen died. I know some brands like d brand make cases where the hinge gets covered up when closed, but when the phone is open there's just a giant lump on the back. the plastic screen protector also scratches easily, but I don't think they are that expensive to change.

[@TheRedshift_]

Obviously everyones experience is different, but as the owner of a Fold 3 I can throw in my personal experience that for me, it's actually been more durable than all my previous phones combined. Both my S8 and S10 finished up with shattered screens, even with a good case, from corner drops. The Fold has been dropped countless times, often landing in ways that you would assume would cause a bad screen break, and apart from some minor scratches on the corners, both screens have held up fine and overall the phone is still working as if it were new. Definitely worth it for me, i'd advise that if you are interested about getting a folding phone you look at some other discussions and guage how well you believe a device will hold up when you daily drive it.

[@jonallison6896]

Hey kinda odd idea, is there a way to make a solid case for the flip series? What I mean is if someone gets unlucky and their screen begins to crack, they could extend the phones life by putting it in a solid case. I made the mistake of getting a second hand z flip 3, and now I'm afraid to close the phone as my screen has slight cracks forming on the fold I still really like the phone, but I can't afford to replace it, and I figured having an option to turn it into an oddly longer phone with a strong solid case and screen protector is better than having it go to E-Waste cause its own feature broke itself lol.

[@Chakenios]

I agree with a lot of the comments here, and only write so the guys at LMG notice. This is not the first video you are missing key facts, and not only key facts but saying stuff is missing or you wish it had it and it actually has it, take into account some people watch this videos to do purchase decisions, and I really like the stuff from LMG but please guys, do better! (you are a lot better than this) I stopped the video half way through since I no longer trust the information in it, sorry.