Hashinshin explains why new Conqueror is bad on Bruisers!

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[@slimshadeyplsstandup5098]

I don’t even play league anymore, but I’m so addicted to watching hashinshin trash talk the shit out of this game Papa bless Chadshinshin

[@DoubleStudentLoans]

SLIM SHADEY PLS STAND UP jfc are you me? Haven’t played in over a year, but I still have to watch Hash and LS roast kids

[@DragneeIs]

watching hashinshin without talking shit just feels so weird lol.. this somehow pleases me.

[@rrteppo]

Almost all the problems with league are in the top lane and support. Top laners are all alone so their problems don't effect anyone else, and supports never get what they really need (For kill lanes to get nerfed into the ground so the support doesn't have to sit bot lane jerking off their adc all game)

[@Base2324]

When I see no red eye in the thumbnail. Sphere buddy, Its everything ok? do you want to talk?

[@anordinaryday5890]

I'm a simple man, I see new spherestalker upload, I click.

[@solly1430]

AnOrdinaryDay Your name and profile picture is just super iconic.

[@nimrodfilms5104]

original comment:) good job XD

[@flaka3439]

I have my toe on your property

[@Absvrd666]

Youre a simple man for commenting the same old retarded format of a comment for attention

[@emarythomp]

Wow this new rune looks great on Ryze! Huh? Oh wait I just got word that this was suppose to be a bruiser rune.... LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@davidkepler5261]

I cant wait to play new conquerer on Maokai tbh. Ramp up on base dmg :P Unhealthy for the game? yeah! for my clinb? Not at all!

[@emarythomp]

David Kepler honestly more power to you! It proves just how incompetent riot is so I’m fine with seeing conquer abuse on champions that aren’t suppose to use it LMAO

[@LunarPrism34]

It also looks great on Kled, Renek, Jax, Yasuo, Darius, Fiora, Irelia, Kayn, Yi, Olaf, RekSai, Riven, Urgot, not bad on Trynd, Udyr, Warwick, and Yorick. Hecarim and Skarner could also use it, but they use predator instead for the movespeed. It can be good on certain mages like Ryze(3rd lowest winrate in the game), Cass, and Sol, but it's still mainly used on Brusiers. Although it works on some assassins like Katarina.

[@creeperunaffiliatedwithmin735]

Like 4 kitty

[@yamato8000]

Hash could be a great Dictador

[@PequenoWiltord]

Dictator? I don't think you know what that word means :p

[@DefinitelyNotBandee]

He knows. And Hash would be a great one. Based on his bruiser-based point-of-view in this game.

[@tamaspakai2464]

András Balogh bojler eladó

[@PequenoWiltord]

@mordekaiser the iron revenant Do elaborate then. What did he mean?

[@zivior1090]

@@PequenoWiltord how can everyone understand but you

[@eazy2195]

Exam in 6 hours, must watch Hashinshin rant first

[@Kpopfan-js3fk]

Good luck

[@soggybiscuit4208]

Tell us how it went, please.

[@squeaky1963]

Exam happeing now Finish exam later. Watch hashinshin in class

[@shprite781]

Tell us how it went

[@eazy2195]

@@soggybiscuit4208 I passed, thanks for asking! Didnt sleep all night just studying and watching hash rants

[@natenobles4372]

No red eye ? 😔

[@EvilPineappl]

hash is tired

[@flaka3439]

Feelsbad

[@j_Snow]

The mage items are busted and they don't get nerfed in any single patch, now the new conqueror will be used by mages

[@cheyhey2170]

@Gage Acosta 100gold for orb? meh..

[@cheyhey2170]

@Gage Acosta eh, they should nerf pretty much everything ;-; but that wont happen sadly

[@carl9966]

I will come back to league if they ever balance the dmg out, its not fun for anyone if everyone is gonna run around and one shot eachother, no skill in that

[@opgroundzero2.0]

@Gage Acosta double pen? So what? 100G and 10 AP omg double pen is now uNuSable.

[@kevinnguyen8631]

Git gud. Explain how we see only one or two champs building full so.

[@MattBG67]

"You just have to play Viktor without inting until you get your armor items" *hashinshin getting vietnam war flashbacks from his 0/20 game with Viktor*

[@FatAmericanMantittys]

I’m a simplest man. I see spherestalker, make sure it is a video of hashinshin. I then watch the video carefully while taking note analyzing scene by scene.Afterward I run a thorough analysis of what i just watched. I sleep on it,then once I awake I collect all of the data and run a simulation via coding on windows 10 control panel. Once I get my results of 1000 simulations and they are positive I click like.

[@oiy3308]

"Is it really that difficult?" Flashback to Hashinshin inting his ass off when trying Victor tank top for the first time.

[@GeninGeo]

4:28. I feel the same about hash when he talks about how broken armor is when the main reason that fighters are dead is because defenses are dead and penetration is broken and this fighters have to invest a larger amount of their gold into defenses instead of damage.

[@LunarPrism34]

I think that mages use Conq pretty well, but uh.. I don't agree w/ Hash on this one. The quality of life changes were nice, but Conq is what shot her up to being an amazing champion. It's great on Kled, it's great on Renek, Jax, Yasuo, Darius, Fiora, Irelia, Kayn, Yi, Olaf, RekSai, Riven, Urgot, not bad on Trynd, Udyr, Warwick, and Yorick. It's also not bad on Hecarim and Skarner, but they take Predator instead because of the movespeed/engage.

[@hertberken2053]

That's what I was thinking, sure bruisers can proc it, but it takes them using all of their abilities. Plus when they even proc it in the laning phase it will be lack luster cause of how easy it is to stack armor early.

[@gloomylobster111]

By the time they proc it the enemy laner probably has their escape back up

[@hertberken2053]

@@gloomylobster111 Yah since every tank has an escape or cc by the time you proc it they'll just walk away.

[@adamhsr]

Dude by the time it procs. The enemy would have walked it to base. Theres no fukn point to it

[@randomness6498]

Hert Berken i dont think you will be able to proc it, more like you get ccd to death cause you do no dmg

[@Faulheit]

im so early where my 360p gang at

[@jaxingoff6245]

Honestly, as an ADC main I see no problem with Live server Conqueror. Bruisers I feel fall off so hard, and with recent buffs to ADC's and still no nerfs to mages whatsoever, Bruisers are going to go back to the WORST class in the game as per usual. Most Bruisers are pretty kiteable, albeit this is somewhat mitigated by Spear of Shojin, and its also the only reason why we're not going back to Tank meta despite Marksmen items being buffed. I like the way Conqueror is right now, despite it blowing me up sometimes as an ADC, but that's a good tradeoff, its one of the only things in the game that makes Bruisers viable. I hope Riot really reconsiders this decision and finds some other way to nerf Bruisers, if they still want to nerf them at all (I don't even want Bruisers to be nerfed, but maybe a scaling cooldown increase On Jax Q/E would be a wanted change xd) Really hoping Riot goes back to the drawing board with this one, or just finally wakes up and listens to the community and realizes mages and their items are fucking broken as shit, and nerf those before mages are going to abuse the fuck out of new Conqueror and be even more broken then they already are. When I finally thought Riot was going in the right direction with a better Defensive option for Marksmen and fine tuning the crit items, they plan on ruining a class that is still currently struggling to find its place in the game...

[@leotheking1000]

How would you build jinx/twitch/trist? I feel like the ie is nice, zeal too, but after these two buys I feel weaker than I did before. Idk if the buff actually is a buff, or rather some utility I do not want but now have to buy, whilst I am not able to kill a tank & Riven just oneshots me with flash q auto r. How is the crit adc itemization buffed? 😅

[@leonhardfrommhold8463]

leotheking1000 the new ie is the old ie slightly worse and the old ie was busted

[@ub8dullr676]

Luckily, my main Illaoi is having a great time with thee new conqueror too xDD

[@thundersharkpanda]

other than irelia and yasuo, i think most brusiers are reasonably kitable and managable. as a support main, i usually have enough tools to stop the enemy top laner from sitting on top of the ad or ap unless he or she is super fed and bursts either one of us. the main problems are that some bruisers (aatrox, irelia and yasuo to be more specific) ended up becoming assaisins thanks to rito's poor champion design choices. from a macro balance perspective, i think the better solution is to fix the specific bad apples (they have already done so to irelia) instead of gutting the whole class. Isn't it kinda ironic when riot want to buff adcs and nerf bruisers due to popular demands, yasuo have become the most broken champ of this patch?

[@cdajah6920]

Here's the issue as a top lane tank player...conquerer is a stupid fucking concept. It's a direct counter to tanks for 0 reasons. Darius abuses it to good hell and there's no need to go into how the other blatant abusers just skull fuck people. I'm not even a yorick player but I did 17k with conquerer.. 17k free true dmg. You just stack on minions than just destroy lane opponent. This new one will a least force drool monkeys like hashinshin to actually FIGHT a tank to proc it. Sunfire had a 200 gold buff? Nothing else... god bless this dude needs mental help.

[@DojacGame]

As a tank main for 5 years I can say with confidence that: -Grasp is too safe for a keystone -Aftershock should of remained %based but simply lowered, it's now good at all stages of the game -People say that tank items aren't that gold efficient, maybe but they're still cheap overall and tanks can easily acquire gold through sitting under turret and farming -Tanks feel harder to kill early game than they do late with all the sustain they have access to + Aftershock. Riot simply need to remove the need for having true damage (Conq) and just nerf tanks across the board. Nerf their resist gains from items + cost and adjust health so they're still usable for bruisers, just give tanks scaling base stats that have impact in the late game. Finally, buff %pen items but nerf %increased damage against high health targets because bruisers are simply punished hard for building their offensive items which in turn give little defense in resists but just a chunk of health which makes items like Bork incredibly hard to deal with. Let me know what you all think.

[@aleksazekic814]

Its scary how he always has solid arguments to every statement

[@JFHyoutube]

these videos are the highlight of my nights when I cant sleep.... Don't stop uploading! TY

[@ariezweatherford6861]

hashinshin, the strat the viktor was talking about is where you go klepto and spellthief and you dont cs until youve finished the spellthief quest. you stay even in gold and xp and get unholy harass off

[@deadsoulgamer9338]

Yet another mage trying to abuse the support items, which is why us as supports (I'm a support main) keep having our starting items nerfed

[@ch1dd]

Until the enemy starts picking aggressive all-in or mage supports and adc mains start whining about their traditional supports not doing enough. Oh wait... that has always been a thing, mages on botlane or not. Support is honestly the last thing riot should be concerned about when it comes to balancing, since all the other roles are back and forth between being useless or too strong. I might even go ahead and say it's more relevant of a role as a band-aid to the team composition or simply attached to the currently stronger role as, well, literally support so they can act more freely. I don't really understand what you mean by "way too viable" when it's such a joke by itself some players resort to playing mages to make the matches worthwhile.

[@ChozenBardoUmbra]

Yeah really, as a Bard main I feel most of my support items are not really optimal and weird to build, specially in Bard's place,

[@ch1dd]

That was a pretty long paragraph so apologies if I fail to address something you mentioned. If it's something you specifically wanted a reply, do talk about it again so I can focus on it and say something. In all honesty, not trying to attack you or anything here, but you seem to be upset that someone with a role you perceive to require less skill than whatever you play has a decent impact in the game. You got supports all wrong. All you could do before is get vision and pray your team knows what to do with it so you don't lose the game, because you have little to no impact on how everything plays out. Nowadays, you say they shouldn't be able to buy a lot of items, which they are NOT, farming is by far the more effective way of making money and supports are mostly not "allowed" to take any farm. If you want a wardbot ask riot to do just that, remove one role and add a UI element that you set vision in specific places in the comfort of uyour lane. See how that goes. You also say they should be 2 to 3 levels behind other laners, which they also are most of the time, for moving around the map, not farming, and sharing exp anytime they're in lane. I really don't see what your complaints are since what you say should be happening is, well, exactly how the game works. Two out of your three examples complaining about supports are actually mages, which are the stronger class in the game. Pyke is the third one, and he was born from the exact necessity of giving impact to such a frowned upon role. It would appeal to roughly 20% of the playerbase (if every role had equally distributed mains), but it has potential to be so much more than that due to auto-filled players finding in Pyke a pick that might be closer to the impact they're used to have. It's absolutely perfect. Not to mention, you say "there's 2 people in botlane so it makes ganking that more important", when in the so called older interactions of the game there wasn't even a jungler. Lanes were distributed 2-1-2, even ignoring other meta shifts making it 1-2-1 and such. TL;DR- Everything you say is basically your own bias from playing other positions, and most things you say or think about supports/support mains are completely wrong (they're outdated at the same time, even. It's the type of wrong mentality people had 6 years ago, and somehow you not only didn't fix yours, but you maintained the wrong concepts from all the way back then intact). I can't claim to talk for all support mains out there, there's even beef inside support mains between tank/engage players VS peel/sustain/poke players, while they both look down on off-meta players collectively. However I'm confident people anywhere across this spectrum and even from other roles would strongly disagree with what you had to say. huge props to anyone that manages to get through all the text walls btw.

[@ch1dd]

As a little extra that is pretty obvious and I didn't feel like putting on the other comment, but while reading through again it seems necessary: the support is the team's support, not the ADC's. The ADC is part of the team, and shares the lane with us exactly so they can try and have a smoother early game, but that doesn't make the support their employee, supports are not there exclusively to babysit ADCs anymore. People who fail to see that just want it easy or are quite frankly just mediocre players. Gotta get with the times.

[@squeaky1963]

Well... Maybe your items shouldnt give you free gold. Instead they should only work if another teammate is nearby to activate the buff

[@HaloTrackStudios]

Hash. The true Chad of gaming. Not only is he the chadiest of Chads he has the brains to match. And he loves animals. I'm shocked girls aren't sliding into his Dms so much he can't play league

[@koych9587]

Girls tend to dislike men who bitch and complain about every single thing that happens and go on and on without realizing how stupid they sound ;/

[@LucaszSchmitz]

@@HaloTrackStudios yikes lol hopefully you said that as a joke or something

[@HaloTrackStudios]

@Lucas Schmitz of course! You shouldn't take the net seriously ever

[@asscraverx]

Its 4am in germany i just waited for this

[@joegod9488]

for the minion aggro thing, I think it was following khazix and he was opposite the brush so it just walked in and saw chad

[@reminiscence5561]

"Just don't lose all your hp lvl 1" ironic since he lost all his hp lvl 1 against riven when he got banned.

[@DoubleStudentLoans]

I havent played league in over a year but i still watch these just to hear Hash do his dumb person voice to make fun of people. It still makes me lol every time

[@TheBobby2legs]

When hashinshin isn’t on twitch old sphere is here to bring me content. Ily.

[@Kascaded]

Ryze, Cassiopia, Rumble and other mages will probably abuse this stupid new Conqueror...so fucking stupid Riot.

[@iare19]

After every 2 years they "update" runes and masteries and then reside to fixing that bullshit for the next 2 years until they unveil their secret plan - runes and masteries update.

[@kirxee]

that aged badly

[@ugmagir2641]

riot doing the good old crack

[@san-tbandit1807]

8:10 cuts to hashinshin going 0/19 as viktor top

[@jarlbalgruuf2415]

(Always Sunny theme plays)

[@peterkirk8510]

Is this where we cut to hashinshin feeding his ass off on viktor

[@ty8527]

I mostly click on these videos to see what it's like to live in a vacuum.

[@Mateo-hr4to]

What hashinshin isnt understanding is that Riot (with this changes) is trying to eliminate the burst-meta for another more likely a tank-meta. Knowing that, this changes to Conqueror arent bad at all, yeah, it would be harder to full proc it, but you are not taking in mind that the teamfights are meant to be longer than nowadays. They are buffing tanks itemization, buffing grasp of the undying. So adding more damage (at full proc) and healing to Conqueror is actually perfectly fine...

[@sunnyd9321]

Yorick is the only bruiser that uses this keystone well. He hasn't even play-tested with Yorick on the PBE and I have. The ghoul attacks count for one, the maiden counts as one, and the ensuing E to get them to attack at all also counts as one. That means you only need to auto attack and then Q reset to get the Conqueror buff almost instantly.

[@alexandergray5977]

hashinshin:explains why conq is bad on bruisers also hashinshin: destroys playing conq on a bruiser

[@marine5323]

The first thing that came to my mind when I saw the new Conqueror was mages and adcs

[@shinyduck258]

Every yorick main before the buffs in this patch, i salute you. Not only did they take our champ but now they ban it even more than before. And because he's now super popular guess what's gonna happen? NERFS R.I.P yorick 2016-2019

[@Darklordcomp]

He has no idea what he's talking about "NEWTHE NEW THING Damaging attacks and abilities grant 3-15 adaptive force (levels 1-18) for 3 seconds (8 seconds for melee), stacking up to 5 times to a max of 15-75. At 5 stacks, 10% of your damage against champions is converted to true damage and you heal for that amount. ATTRITION Damage-over-time effects and ongoing sources of damage (ex. Yorick's R - Maiden of the Mist) can grant one stack every 5 seconds"

[@alexpatnode5164]

It's honestly surprising no one has said anything about lucian his passive lightslinger, each auto counts as one stack, so you can W auto auto Q auto and you fully stack conqueror with the last auto hitting for true dmg

[@Zwei22]

You know ashe instantly procs conqueror right? Each arrow of her Q ability counts as one auto. So when Q is charged, a single shot instantly procs conqueror.

[@bogdanbeniamin6709]

In case you wonder, the artist singing around 6-7 min is Massive Attack

[@TheTruestZero]

Hashinshin: It only works once in a single button press Unless you are Ashe, who stack with a single Q press.

[@deoxyhills1520]

If only he knew

[@noahnguyen3473]

Little did hashinshin know Garen would get reworked so his E gets conqueror

[@bingustavo]

What's interesting is that Graves auto immediately procs new Conqueror. I don't know if they're changing that, but I hope they don't so I can pretend Graves top is good.

[@magicggst]

Also twitch stacks 2 conqueror if his ult hits 2 ppl. 3 if hitting 3 ppl. ALSO also, ashe can get all five stacks with 1 q empowered auto. Forgot to mention that.

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

How come Twitch gets that but Kayn doesn't? Oh yeah, Rito hates melee champs.

[@oredrinic4177]

Let's talk about how 9.3 killed a god(Aatrox) riot is so powerful...they can easily kill a god

[@giovanni5954]

New aatrox is a shit just revert him riot

[@archaontheeverchosen539]

Jason Achilles he was but he also used a different itemization attack speed lifesteal which is busted on any champ tbh because u cant trade with them they heal up all the damage back which made it impossible to duel them and comeback and i hate that i hate dravens that rush bt and autowin trades because they deal more damage take less farm heal back up while u r still low i hate champs like that it makes the game pointless to play

[@Clarkiez96]

Đorđe Drinić Aatrox was killed the day he was reworked. I’m glad this new aatrox has been needed to fuck, let it die to the point riot revert it back to the better version

[@kjkh3104]

Rip guy who suffered from *S E V E R E R E T A R D A T I O N*

[@leehuawei8198]

Every time I want to get back to league I watch hash

[@DiablitoKawaii]

Fuck it Lethal Tempo with the conditioning into full tank then Reckles Olaf is the new shit

[@juggmkj]

Damn that Veigar chase was hard to watch...

[@krimb5053]

I love Hashinshin.

[@kevinlu9859]

Renekton can proc conqueror pretty easily with his w since it counts as 2 autos or 3 when engraged so e auto w a procs conqueror which is nice.

[@mariannekelstrup7633]

It's going to be good on Fiora, Yasuo, Riven and Irelia and we all know that these 4 needed buffs, /S. Is it too much to ask to have just one other viable rune option than grasp when playing juggernauts? With adc's now very strong again, it kinda feels like rank suicide to play them...

[@MrBubs-me4qe]

3:25 XDDDDDDDDDD i died here

[@abortionsrus3037]

Wait...you mean to tell me...Riot did something very stupid and unhealthy for the game??? *That’s so new...*

[@myukeyz9347]

This video aged well

[@maurice3268]

I subscribe for the kitty at the end of the movie

[@perceptivity_]

maybe riot found the indirect solution to bring ryze back into the game

[@imperialguardsman135]

Now, cause he's too strong, they will have to rework him

[@shikamaze1489]

Ryze is either a S+++ champion or a shit one. Not trying to meme, but he need a rework.

[@Emeowy]

Riot just release a melee minion champ that is just based in being a banner of command winion in a teamfight and for bringimg down towers

[@imperialguardsman135]

Yorick

[@deadsoulgamer9338]

Yeah, that's literally Yorick

[@shprite781]

Jax

[@cheryl9809]

So you want us to go grasp on bruisers riot? IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT?

[@abortionsrus3037]

9:46 *don’t ignore kitty, subscribe or else...*

[@thotcher9706]

I think the idea of Riot is to bring all the mages into the meta and also to make bruisers die and don't be played anymore. Now I'm wondering how am I going to rank up.

[@dadmaster100]

I really like how Hash bitches about Viktor top being easy, when he played it fed his ass off and got banned xD

[@peachus3849]

5:00 should potions recover 75hp at the first tick?? wtf someone explain pls

[@junosgladius]

Its a rune

[@TheConCarlos]

hash have perfectly divisible attention. one half of the brain is playing, one is talking about broken shit

[@rara2ra2yrra3racjj2]

Is it reeeeeally that hard tho? For real? > Proceeds to go 0/19 and get banned playing Viktor top lane

[@Rendzio]

Can you imagine that a long trade runestone isnt procking on the start of the fight :o Can you imagine tanks not losing whole early mid and late game because of bruiser picking certain rune :o Also playing vs. Fed mage like xerath/velkoz/lux is far more comfortable than playing vs. Fed bruiser, you can dodge mages abilities, you can easly nuke them down, while fed kled is nearly unkillable with his remounts, shields, and shit

[@Rendzio]

And he is acting like mages dont have to proc it, and ad champions dont get bonus ad

[@nahuelkid]

Nothing better than Chadshinshin gunning down the enemy team in the streets, like the degenerates they are.

[@xord5530]

This hasn't aged very well

[@anwarelharti4998]

Dark harvest was for junglers only, now everyone uses it. Conqueror was for bruisers, and draven of course, he wants everything for him, and now everyone will use it.

[@joshuapineda8708]

Maybe they can just adjust conqueror to not proc on spells for ranged champs? Maybe the thing can be adjusted to have more on multiple hits of the same ability?

[@jakobnikolajsen1124]

Joshua Pineda either that, or they should change it so melees get more than one stack per auto

[@joshuapineda8708]

Oh yeah thanks for the reminder. Got me thinking though. What if melee champs got it after 2 autos? Wait that could power creep PTA fuck :T

[@user-gi6hd5ol6f]

I'm completely behind Hashinshin on this rant. The idea that any champion has to unload their kit, just to get the fastest proc on new Conq is NOT how its supposed to work. A tank is going to win extended trades, especially with Grasp abuse, now you want Bruisers to put in more work, that will more or less be nerfed down to give the same results at some point? Fuck outta here Bruisers should be about opportunist attacks and ramp. Not, unload your kit just to get the keystone to kick in fashionably late so my auto attacks can look pretty! If you stick in a fight long enough for your cds to cycle a second time, early game you're either going all-in or you're insane!

[@FalcFalcFalcFalc]

I would really like to see a game whose balance director is Hash, it would be interesting

[@f.cap.2473]

this means udyr will be beyond broken. i can already hear trick2g talking about cheddar

[@sag3009]

Dark times to play toplane are coming .

[@oraio27]

>Khazix ganks, deals damage and enemy laner flashes and leaves with life >Jarvan ganks, deals damage and enemy laner flashes and leaves with life nOW yOU seE thAts a gAnk

[@Topunito]

Does this mean press the attack will be the best rune for Kled? Or maybe electrocute?

[@alanYK]

Nonetheless, new conqueror does not wait for 4 second in combat to proc and instantly give you stat once you hit enemy champion

[@primordialking5444]

They need to make it an AD rune only like it is now.

[@solitudeguard1932]

When has anything ever been good for bruisers according to Hashinshin?

[@enelle5380]

single man wth a cat

[@veganel1263]

hashinshin flaming the viktor when he literally got banned for going 0 17 or some shit when trying the strat omegalul

[@94PianoPlayer]

I usually dont agree often with his rants/opinions about certain things - like, i dont think mages are that strong atm. but conqueror gone for bruisers just kills them. if it wasnt yolo q everyone would spam tanks and instawin (adcs, besides the point they SHOULD be were never good against tanks and wont be now as well) - in competitive that makes bruisers gone entirely, in solo q they will still be there but just bad. i mean, either you now go "assassin" jax/irelia whatever and try to snipe a carry and somehow survive (why not just pick zed then lol) or you just leave it entirely. even every single splitpusher like tryn, camille etc besides fiora (might still be okay vs tanks) cant fill his role without conqueror vs tanks cause theyll just stand next to you in the minion wave when you try to push and laugh it off lol

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

"Noooorf broooooseeeeeerrrssss" - Random ass tank abuser for freelo

[@squeaky1963]

Mages themselves arent op. But the items are bs, not only are they gold efficient asf, they also hold the strongest item passives and actives that it's actually disgusting

[@xPandamon]

@@squeaky1963That's fine. There's one thing people forget: You can get 4 items and you still would deal no damage to tanks/ bruisers unless you go for void staff. There's a reason why it's so good but people like Hashinshin forget about it, it's the one item mages NEED to be useful while bruisers as an example got no must-have item.

[@juggmkj]

@@xPandamon no, mages are useful before and mr itemization is bad

[@xPandamon]

@@juggmkj They're useful before. Against targets with no/ low magic resistance. Once the enemies get some their damage drops really fast. Don't know what's the problem with MR itemization but it's never been better.. There are so many choices and most of them increase your survivability even further. Not weak or bad at all.

[@saitejavangari7678]

It procks 5 times for Graves auto (depending on if the pellets all land)

[@Topunito]

Wait what? Would it work with Kled's pocket pistol then, or does it not count because it's an ability?

[@Zwei22]

Hashinshin can't do math. Jax Q is 1, counter attack is 2, auto attack is 3, w reset is 4, one more auto makes 5. Jax attack speed will make him hit faster combined with R amplified strikes. Same with rumble. The flame spitter should count entirely as one ability if its coded like everything else. A lot of damage over time abilities are counted as 1 ability. Kat R, garen E, nasus E etc. Out of the adcs who should be fixed.... probably ashe. Her Q actually instantly proc's all 5 stacks of conqueror because apparently every single arrow counts as one auto attack.

[@MrPepperJams]

well that is how ashe's q works, if they want it to stack on auto's then they's have to make her q not interact with it properly since it is working as intended just maybe a little strong

[@Zwei22]

They should do that. Or her trades are going to be disgusting. Actually they should just put limitations on ranged in general.

[@simone8172]

I don't think so. IIRC you have to damage "with" the ability, so I'm guessing that auto empowers that reset only count for one IF you hit their auto, not one PLUS the auto. I could be wrong and I hope I am as bruisers are the main users of auto resets, but I'm pretty sure it only counts for one.

[@Zwei22]

You mean for ashe or for jax? For ashe it's already been tested. Her Q counts as 5 separate auto attacks. So one Q gives 5 stacks. For Jax, its any auto or ability. Q is an ability, counterstrike is an ability. You auto before you w, w itself counts as an auto and then auto again and it procs. So from using w alone properly you already get 2-3 free auto attacks.

[@simone8172]

@@Zwei22 You mean one auto with Q passive activated gives all 5 conq stacks?! Holy shit I hope that's a bug! As for W I know that the empowered auto gives at least one stack (it is still an auto) I just don't know if it gives two. I can't tell if you just mean it gives stacks faster cause with the reset you auto faster.

[@KarateGurke]

yo whats the song at the beginning? rlly importnat pls no darude meme

[@randomguystudios6458]

Bruisers in the jg are still viable, but only because scaling junglers aren't anymore due to camp nerfs

[@sparklethunder2303]

I love how Hash is talking about if playing Viktor top is "really that hard". Judging by his 0/19 Viktor game that got him banned, maybe it is!

[@ventu7907]

He was playing aganist a challenger one trick lol

[@squeaky1963]

Hmmm. Maybe because he was playing againts a challenger one-trick with a champion in he barely plays or you can contort facts to make it seem like victor isnt op

[@giovanni5954]

@@squeaky1963 lol but that victor isn't doing the same thing? Playing against a one trick kled and he just go for the strat because auto filled? I don't get your point there

[@squeaky1963]

@@giovanni5954 it works. Just because autofilled first timers don't get fed againts challenger one-tricks doesn't make it unviable

[@aziremperorofthesands6369]

It's viable, but what hash says is total BS.

[@Emeowy]

I want a champ to literally be a melee winion whose skins are just the events skin and has 2 already unlocked skins that get chosen by sidd

[@randomness6498]

PorkeChamp Yorick ?

[@Hethalean]

How the hell did Viktor heal @5:02? I didn't see anything that would cause him to heal.

[@lag5761]

0:20 I never though this day would come but... With old conqueror I was able to get 5 stacks before my enemy came to lane and as soon as he aproach me I'll kill him with olaf! Now I won't:/

[@yasuzo3687]

At least know bruisers have to work for the activation of conqueror like electrocute

[@happyhappychuchu]

i thought conqueror with less true dmg and a heal is hashinshin's idea

[@Ecliptor.]

Grasp is decent vs tanks in lane phase. Fiora has been using it to survive lane vs hard matchups.

[@imperialguardsman135]

>fiora *>surviving* lane You'd get banned from hash's chat

[@Ecliptor.]

@@imperialguardsman135 can't get banned if you never open his stream :^)

[@gloomylobster111]

@@Ecliptor. Fiora usually doesn't have a problem surviving laning phase especially against tanks thanks to her passive

[@omarahmedx]

Fiora's whole kit is designed to do 2 things, and 2 things only. Win the laning phase and win the split push. (at even items).

[@danielcruz6327]

Using the tank rune to survive against tanks 🤔 kinda proves how bad the actual anti-tank rune actually is

[@tucancap]

They obviously made it for sylas so he can be AP riven.

[@OnlySourSauce]

but HASHINSHIN......HASHINSHIN y!

[@86media_]

i think they should remove the proc on abilities and itl be fine. itl be old fervor with true damage.

[@VeZzE1337]

yea the rune that was so weak only few tanks could use it, and in a time where grasp wasnt 4 times buffed.

[@heavens_gatereaper9195]

4:05 wait, so 1x Q + 2 ( both ) E´s should give you 3 stacks + 3 more Autoattacks would add up to 6 and not 5 stacks, but it already proc´s at 5, so normally you could keep your 2nd E there ; or am i mistaken here ? xD