Hating The Beatles

[@LilDeuceDeuce]

I know hating the Beatles probably seems like a recent phenomenon or a symptom of being perpetually online, but the sentiment was definitely around when I was a kid growing up in late 80s/early 90s. When I was 10 I repeated some joke I'd heard on the playground about Ringo Starr being the worst drummer of all time and my dad sat me down and did a full boomer crash course and made me listen to Strawberry Fields Forever and Come Together and he pointed out some of the drumming decisions and how it impacted the song vs. the earlier four on the floor Beatles stuff. It might sound like a nightmare having someone sit there for a half hour admonishing you for not having the correct musical opinion but it was actually a really eye-opening experience as a kid

[@MichaelMikeyMike]

😄 Your dad sounds dope. Was he a musician or just a big fan?

[@XANAX-Pilled]

Sure enough. I was born in 80 and my dad started teaching me to play guitar in 87. I'll never forget: he took me to buy song books that year. He said "we can get this book with every Beatles song (for like $70), and you'll get GOOD, but it'll be HARD. OR, you can get 3 or 4 easier ones (Sabbath, CSN, etc)." I heard "HARD" and decided "f*ck THAT." By the time I was 20 I deeply regretted my decision.

[@snagglesnorf]

Yeah strawberry fields forever will open your eyes for sure

[@ThePhreakass]

Damn, how insecure can you be to instantly try to correct someone's musical opinion?

[@zebgf261]

I love the Beatles, the first band I was ever obsessed with, but this is the same thing as if my born-1971 father sat me down and 'corrected the record' on me not liking the Christian hair metal band Tourniquet. The idea that the Beatles, or really anyone, are untouchable 'Rawk Gawds' has always been goofy, but I'm sure it was much worse 30 years ago. Don't misunderstand though I'm not tearing your dad apart, seems like it was a nice experience

[@cogito919]

“As long as it’s new to you, old music is new music too.” Great quote, simple but poignant. EDIT: I’m glad many people agree 🙂

[@mauricioandres7470]

Yeah that shit was actually great

[@wince9537]

Agreed

[@antlerbraum2881]

Actually very hard-hitting

[@6020e3]

yes but not really, because while you listen to old music you already have a framework of stuff that has been influenced by it and carried the sonic traditions further and thus you will unavoidably hear some familiar elements

[@dakota.7617]

@@6020e3please stop.

[@Pencilman246]

This is a band that survived people literally burning piles of their albums during their heyday and who quit touring at the height of their fame. I think they will survive a few online hipsters who think it’s cool to shit on great music.

[@Adamdidit]

On the contrary one of them did not survive partially because of the things involved in that album burning.

[@sweatyoldman]

@@Adamdidit😂 there was a line and you crossed it

[@cgbleak]

@@Adamdidit It's quite possible you know more about it than I do. But if John hadn't repeatedly said "shoot me" in Come Together, I strongly doubt the crazy guy would have thought hey, good idea!

[@Adamdidit]

@cgbleak His murderer has stated that the whoel "bigger than Jesus" thing was one of the reasons he killed Lennon. Which was itself a made up horseshit American religious whackjob controversy. As is known to occur to this day.

[@Adamdidit]

@sweatyoldman well it was a crosswalk so that was also probably that guy crossing lines

[@c.lvr2602]

I will admit, I didn't like them for over a decade. Just didn't see the fuss. But when it clicked, it clicked, and I understood the acclaim. I do feel that unless you were around in the 60s you can't fully appreciate them 100% because everything they did has been done a billion times since by everyone and their mum, but I can only imagine what it must have been like to have heard Tomorrow Never Knows in 1966. It must have blown people's fucking minds. Everything they pioneered, or helped to pioneer, we just take as a given now. Bands writing all their own songs and playing all their own instruments without just using session musicians. Using the studio to its full capabilities. Tape loops, pitched vocals, backmasking, incorporating influences from classical and Middle Eastern / Asian genres of music. Using things other than the standard guitar, bass, drums formula. Focusing on entire albums of quality songs as opposed to making an album with one hit song and 10 other songs designed to sound just like that one hit song. It's easy to forget that before them, the music industry was very different. Songs were written FOR singers by paid writers, barely any singers were allowed to write their own songs. They were given songs, paid to sing them, and musicians were paid to be the band for them. The Beatles helped to change that. I do think some songs are overrated (never liked Yesterday), and I'm not fussed on their solo stuff (I hate Imagine, sue me), but the four of them together were something truly important. It's also important to remember, they weren't around for very long. 7 years releasing albums, and they released 2 albums a year for a lot of it. They went from A Hard Day's Night to Tomorrow Never Knows in under 2 years. No one did that. It showed people such as Bowie that you could reinvent yourself year after year. Also, no band or artist will ever, EVER be as famous as they were when Beatlemania was at its peak.

[@yungskittle]

And even with their sounds common these days, nobody still does it like them. Nobody will ever touch Sgt Peppers, Rubber Soul or the White album

[@EddwardScissorhands]

@@yungskittleor revolver or magical mystery tour or abbey road etc 🍻 Their early stuff slaps just as hard but in a totally different way💚

[@daniellavaladez7820]

Very well said and totally spot on!!!

[@c.lvr2602]

@@MidosujiSen Maybe, but as he has himself admitted, The Beatles got there first for a lot of it, which is the point I'm making

[@seansachs6105]

So glad for this comment. I grew up on Beatles songs (dad is a boomer) and liked it for sure, but I don't think I would've had the musical vocabulary and understanding of context needed to fully appreciate their work until now. A ton of the stuff we don't even think about was pioneered or popularized by them, as you pointed out, & without them we wouldn't be where we are today. Arguably no prog rock, no Pet Sounds, & no British Invasion, and that in itself is a massive musical legacy. And Fantano's point about old music really resonated with me. I know Pet Sounds is old and I know there's been plenty of albums inspired by it (some of whom I've listened to), but the album itself was new when I dived into it earlier in the year - and even with those imitators, there's always things to pick out that make a work like that unique. I loved it. Same thing with What's Going On and a lot of the other classic albums I've listened to - and it's always really cool and interesting to me to hear where some of the best artists of today got their inspiration and why. I'm really excited to dive into the Fab Four's albums for the first time later this month.

[@derrickgoble8976]

Whether you hate em or not, you gotta agree their magnum opus “bohemian rhapsody” is a song.

[@DMJDestructorPodcast]

forget that, they also have “Stairway to Heaven”, “Dreams”, and “Hotel California” in their discog!

[@endmysuffering2925]

Are you dumb? They didn’t even make that song. Obviously Playboi Carti was the original artist

[@sycofya1677]

Now thats a real band 🤘

[@markharrison6498]

I’m more of a fan of their classic november rain but rhapsody was also a banger

[@ShiftyEyesShady]

It truly is a song

[@Anyontm]

Listening to The Beatles as a songwriter is like listening to Coltrane as a saxophonist. Absolute masters of the craft.

[@majooortom4254]

true

[@YenPox69]

bruh

[@Andoroid]

100%. They were some of the greatest song writers of all time

[@majooortom4254]

just try to write even a "silly" song like She Loves You, its nearly impossible to come up with something good 😆

[@franciscofarias6385]

I don't care for many of their lyrics, but they (and especially Paul) are absolutely genius when it comes to melodies.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

I'm fine with people not liking the Beatles. I get more frustrated when they think they're overrated. Like...their innovation to pop and rock music cannot be overstated. If you don't like their songs that's fine but there's a reason like 80% of popular artists since the Beatles cite the Beatles as a direct influence.

[@Cleoseni]

beatleheads say shit like this and then whine that people dont like some mediocre pop rock band that disbanded half a century ago

[@conormurphy4328]

Hey tigerstar, I agree you can hate the Beatles on personal taste as much as you want but if you want to actually critique them you better have a legitimate reason.

[@salifyanji7889]

Agree with most of what you said but idk if in 2023 the beatles are cited as an influence for most acts 😅 maybe a musical ancestor?

[@samantharedacted9226]

​@@salifyanji7889Maybe not in current year, but even as recently as the 90s we had Kurt Kobain being a self proclaimed Beatles fan. (He even had a favorite Beatle, John Lennon) and Nirvana is probably the most influential grunge / punk rock band ever. The Beatles' influence is still trickling. Maybe there's several current pop stars that like the Beatles but nobody has ever asked them about it.

[@pedrotorresboreli9708]

@@salifyanji7889 the influences now where influenced by the Beatles.

[@zackzallie8735]

Everyone gangsta until I put on Wild Honey Pie as a way to scaring the guests away.

[@franklehouillier8865]

I thought people did that with Revolution #9.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Deep cut. I love it!

[@Man_of_Oil]

HONNNNEY PIIAAAAAHHHHHHHH

[@obliviousotterI]

ai luv u honeh pai

[@brandenhaynes4617]

That song is total dog shit.

[@PearlCityBeats]

All Things Must Pass = Pure joy. Most of the songs from that album were played at our wedding

[@JonCrocker]

Best of all Beatles solo albums if you ask me. Best vibes, great songs, puts me in another world.

[@ip5799]

@@JonCrockeryep

[@NickBollingerMusic]

⁠@@JonCrocker oh man that’s tough… I’d say most substantive and moving, yeah. But Ram is still probably my fave start to finish. Paul’s whole schtick still does it for me lol Can’t go wrong either way.

[@JonCrocker]

@@NickBollingerMusic overall I think Paul's solo output was great and more consistent, and I'm really down for the first several in particular (thru band on the run). But atmp still stands apart for me.

[@sandroweber7157]

thanks. i figured i finally start listening to their solo albums. only listened to mccartney 2/3 so far. but i heard All things must pass was mainly a collection of songs george wrote during the beatles era, that were not put on albums

[@LBAW]

All Things Must Pass has been my obsession this year The Beatles, and their solo stuff, have always been a wellspring of creativity and ideas that inspire me in my own music.

[@fortynights1513]

My Sweet Lord is in that, correct?

[@LBAW]

@@fortynights1513 Yep, that’s the hit from the album. But the whole album is stellar.

[@jaredbixler2801]

Easily my favorite solo Beatles album. What is Life and Art of Dying are my go tos

[@ossiejon-nwakalo8644]

Me too!! I was listening to that for the last couple of weeks! I’ve also really enjoyed Band on the Run a lot this year.

[@thentheresjosh]

holy shit I've been playing ATMP non stop, George harrison is phenomenal

[@Ambarian]

I gave a copy of Abbey Road to my roommate who was this macho, tough-guy drug dealer who exclusively listened to Young Jeezy, 50 Cent, and Gucci Mane. He had never heard the Beatles before. Came home from work the next day to hear him blasting Here Comes the Sun so I knocked on his door. He was in there bawling, literally reduced to tears because he was so moved by the music. It made me feel all the feelings I felt when I first fell in love with the music all over again

[@ponteirodorato]

That's so awesome, there's no feeling like discovering something new for the first time.

[@michaelpfogerty]

That's dope 🙏👏

[@joelhuffman171]

Cap

[@ChuMaiWhong]

I’ll take things that never happened for 300 Alex

[@Batman-52]

Another thing that never happened 😂

[@mintzmia]

There’s one group of people I’ve found who consistently at least appreciate if not love the Beatles: musicians.

[@villadavid164]

The same group might be overly critical

[@mj.l]

@@villadavid164only crap ones, in my experience

[@BrodoTG]

@@villadavid164 yeah this comment can only be applied to a small but vocally large margin of this group.

[@educostanzo]

Facts. The Beatles only started to make more sense to me when I started to study songwriting

[@mintzmia]

@@villadavid164 fair enough. I guess I can only speak to the musician circles I’ve run around in through out my life.

[@AnthonyGullace]

(Just because you asked) - All Things Must Pass turned me into a through and through George stan. I've been a beatles "super fan" most my life (at 29 now), but really dove deep into that album last winter and WOW - it's incredible.

[@EthePianoMan]

That record rules, my favorite solo Beatle record for sure.

[@jakesommer8321]

Behind that locked door 11/10

[@bswalem]

Ram, All Things Must Pass and Plastic Ono Band are the holy trinity of post-beatles albums for me. Incredible works for uniquely different reasons. (Sorry Ringo)

[@ethericdevice]

people need to talk more about Paul and Linda McCartney's RAM. That album is just full of the cute easy to listen to melodies that i would always look for in beatles albums

[@robcampbell3387]

RAM is a masterpiece. My favorite post-Beatles album from any member and one of my favorite albums of all time

[@cremetangerine82]

"RAM" is great!

[@marinacerrudo4380]

Truuuue !!! Ram is greaattt

[@marinacerrudo4380]

"All things must pass" as well

[@thepsychicalliance]

Oh, people do though. Ram is regularly cited as being a huge influence over the whole "indie/bedroom pop/diy" thing that became mega prevalent in the last 30 years. I think you'll find a lot of artists these days who claim it as a major influence.

[@PogieJoe]

I first became obsessed with The Beatles in 7th grade, so I'm sure that's in large part why I still love their work. But in general, what makes it so fun to be into them is that they're likely the most well-documented band in history. There's like seven decades of material to enjoy, whether its solo albums, books just about one of their tours, remasters to argue about, their movies, hundreds of thousands of song covers...it's a deep well that most other artists will never compete with if you develop an interest in them.

[@thisiscjshandle]

Listen Beatles haters, I know "It's OK to Leave Your Dog in a Hot Car" is pretty problematic by today's standards, but you have to understand that it was a different time and John and Paul were going through a lot when they wrote it

[@cremetangerine82]

John apologized for that one, people thought the dogs need more warmth back then!

[@jerichopraba6185]

They didn't know any better. It was the 60s.

[@fbicappuccino]

It was all John's idea. He fucking hated dogs. Would stomp on them and cook them alive. Can't blame him, though. Little bastards.

[@mosquitopyjamas9048]

They said it was ‘ok’ not recommended! And the bridge is literally ‘“leave leave leave that window open rover”

[@KingKrouch]

Don’t forget about the John Lennon and Yoko Ono song “Women are the N****rs of the world” which honestly sounds like it’s in very poor taste in both the title and execution.

[@rodrigoforest]

The Beatles are the equivalent of The Jonas Brother transforming into Radiohead in a span of 7 years. If that is not impressive, I don’t know what is.

[@w.iraheta3769]

This is pretty accurate lol

[@fortynights1513]

Why does their later discography remind you of Radiohead?

[@BrofUJu]

Lmao this is pretty great. Never loved the early Beatles, later stuff is great. Wild that that was in such a short time span.

[@KaiBurley]

​@@fortynights1513 I think they are trying to say The Beatles went from a heartthrob boyband with some good songs to a much more musically and lyrically rich place.

[@suites.74]

@@fortynights1513 musically still pop music but in form it comes across experimental

[@AllanPichardo]

Over time I just had to come to terms with the fact that a lot of people (probably the majority of people) simply do not care about music as much as we do. Sure, almost everyone listens to music, but most would be content in just moving along with whatever happens to be popular at the moment without thinking about it too hard.

[@Shaunks86]

This is a fact, and it breaks my heart.

[@otrotipo_otro]

it's what happens to art in general, it's there for those who are listening to what it has to say. the thing about today though is that we confuse entertainment with art, seeking the first without understanding (or experiencing at all) what the second actually does to you. i don't think it's sad, it's not a matter of how many people lives it, like viewership on content, but a matter of anyone experiencing it at all.

[@NeonRadarMusic]

I remember reading a story about someone watching a Shakespeare play and complaining that it was filled with cliches, without realizing that he'd invented, or at least popularized, all those cliches. Same goes with The Beatles. They didn't just impact Western pop music but music as an artform.

[@emmanueladams3120]

That’s hilarious! Shakespeare, the cliche 😂

[@Tym16]

That right there is gentrifying the black music that the Beatles ripped off and to give them the credibility that black music was doing before hand is wild

[@paranoidplane9799]

​@@Tym16Tomorrow never Knows would have never been able to come out of Little Richard or Chuck Berry.

[@Tym16]

@@paranoidplane9799 Isley Bros, Ike & Tina, lots of Rhythm and Blues artist at the time doing the same ish

[@bswalem]

​@@Tym16I haven't heard a song by any of those artists sound anything like Tomorrow Never Knows, or Strawberry Fields

[@sandwhichism]

No one would talk about this 60-year-old band if their music wasn’t absolutely phenomenal

[@Luschan]

Idk, people still talk about The Doors too.

[@jacklumsden7444]

This just isn't true. They were very early and rose to prominence in a time where there weren't many spotlights to shine. Of course we talk about a band that found that spotlight. That doesn't make them good or special it makes them the benefit of circumstance

[@sch3me521]

this argument is really good and epic until you realize that there's plenty of amazing bands out there that get no attention from the general public because they never became famous

[@KR-mm4el]

they're one of the bands of all time

[@glennlavertu3644]

@sch3me521 And there are plenty of bands/artists of the same era who struck success but their music doesn't have lasting impact.

[@BillyCobbOfficial]

Every music head’s opinion on the Beatles over time: I hate the Beatles! I like the Beatles! The Beatles are the greatest band of all time! I hate the Beatles! I love the Beatles!

[@123rockfan]

Call me crazy, but their songs “I’m So Tired” and “Everybody‘s Got Something to Hide” sounds incredibly modern. Could fit on any alt-rock album today. Also I could see a ton of gen Z Olivia Rodrigo stans enjoying The White Album

[@alexanderwood3465]

I've seen this a lot - The White Album and Abbey Road have aged incredibly well

[@jerry3790]

And to think those aren’t even top 10 songs from the white album

[@123rockfan]

@@jerry3790 they’re definitely top ten for me

[@123rockfan]

@@jerry3790 wow actually, I just did my ranking and it’s number 11 lol

[@Kwalk1989]

Glass onion was another one that felt modern when I heard it first

[@xoutofstep]

honestly it’s a good thing because it’s such a self report if people think it’s interesting to hate on the beatles that you just keep your distance from anyone like that.

[@ShiftyEyesShady]

What if someone actually genuinely dislikes them

[@xoutofstep]

@@ShiftyEyesShady those people don’t bring it up every 5 fuckin seconds

[@samantharedacted9226]

​@@ShiftyEyesShadyI just don't understand how someone can hate every single song from a band that has over 200 songs spanning my multiple genres (classic rock, hard rock, pop, country, bluegrass, etc.) with 4 lead singers and 3 songwriters all with different takes on the genres. I understand people not liking bands because all their music sounds similar, but I just don't understand how a person could not like a single Beatles song. They're all so drastically different.

[@c.lvr2602]

@samantharedacted9226 You can like songs by an artist but not the artist in general. I can't stand Eric Clapton, but I can't deny that Layla slaps. I dislike The Police immensely, but I do love Every Breath You Take. Similarly, for over a decade I didn't like The Beatles, but I always liked Eleanor Rigby and Tomorrow Never Knows

[@sch3me521]

I don't think it's interesting to hate on them, I just don't like them and I can't remember the last time I brought that up to anyone, on or offline. I hate this mentality some people have that not liking something = doing it for attention or because you think it makes you more interesting. Have you considered that maybe people have different tastes? Or even that some beatles fans only like them because other people said they're good

[@zumptt]

Most people dont like them because theyve heard the same 4 poppy songs, nobody ive heard say they dont like the beatles knew about I Am The Walrus, Helter Skelter, Dear Prudence, cuz i feel like those arent as popular but theyve heard Let it Be, Yesterday, Blackbird, or Here Comes The Sun and dont like those songs because it sounds old.

[@ElliotRobertsVideos]

Hating the Beatles? Not in my house.

[@topo8444]

I was very Beatles-neutral for a while, but then I heard Happiness is A Warm Gun on the radio and it completely turned me around. I've been a big (late era) Beatles fan ever since.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

That is a fantastic song. Truly one of their best tracks. One of those songs that could've been put out by an indie band today

[@atrainradio929]

Give their pre-Revolver stuff a go, I promise you’ll find some stuff you like. Their early stuff isn’t easy shit to write either. Check out the harmonies on “This Boy”. Absolutely beautiful stuff. Also, Warm Gun is one of my favs off the white album.

[@tom_demarco]

normie

[@DerekDerekDerekDerekDerekDerek]

​@atrainradio929 the early stuff has a couple of good songs.

[@rchesaux3908]

​@JillVALENTINE320 a couple of bad songs*

[@readymade83]

My mom was born in 1950, she was a first generation Beatle fan, saw them on Ed Sullivan and had most of their early records. I listened to a lot of the pre-Revolver stuff as a kid, that was her favorite era and it wasn't until high school that I checked out Sgt. Pepper / Revolver / The White Album which blew my mind. There was a saturation point for me, I don't listen to their music nearly as much as I did years ago (part of that has to do with my mom passing 10 years ago and their music makes me think of her) and there are times when I want to hear Revolver again or maybe a song on the radio but I'm not actively listening to their music the same way I was. I think people have a perception they were some serious band, when in reality they were a bunch of kids that liked joking around, having fun and trying out new ways of doing the same old thing.

[@alex_s__]

All Things Must Pass is my favorite post-Beatles album of all time

[@Adriaantje2008]

Had they taken like 4-5 filler songs like “I Dig Love” off there it would have been a masterpiece

[@Adriaantje2008]

It might even be now who knows

[@yungskittle]

That opening track is magic , George was personally my favorite

[@jonesey.8175]

beach boys and Beatles always get so misinterpreted, when you really listen to what they were saying and pay attention to how incredible the production is for the time, its f***ing mind blowing

[@zackzallie8735]

my dad refused to listen to pet sounds cuz he assumed its gonna be surf songs lol

[@paninovevo1162]

​@@zackzallie8735this. What ruined the reputation of the Beach Boys from 1966 on was their own name

[@skiwlkr9928]

@@paninovevo1162 brian wilson taking his hiatus/canceling smile also didn’t really help Them

[@Dan-Null]

I could not stand the beach boys for the longest time, mostly because every hipster I knew loved them and it seemed to come more from a place of just making sure they were listening to what all the other hipsters we listening to. The one thing any of them would say about the beach boys was, oohh the harmonies man 🙄. However, one day I was just listening to some random mix on spotify and I get around or wouldn’t it be nice came on and IDK, i was like Fck! I love this! Sometimes It hits with someone or it doesn’t.

[@jonesey.8175]

@@caromendoza6533 YEEEEES BROO, omg yes lol, love and mercy is the name of the movie😅 yeah I remember I was super depressed 2 years ago and was doing homework and randomly love and mercy came on the tv. It was one of those god must be trying to tell me something type of things bc I was sucked in and couldn’t believe it, it’s easily my favorite biopic film, and in my top 10 fav films now. Afterwards I had to give the album a listen bc during the time I remember always researching “greatest albums of all time” and always seeing pet sounds in that top 3, I was always confused cause I would see beach boys and be like “really?” and after the seeing the movie, I realized, okay this isn’t just any album I see 😂 this guy went through it. I remember going days and it being the only thing I was listening to, it resonated soooo hard with me during the time.

[@tyjuarez]

At this point, I've seen so many "Beatles overrated" takes that it almost seems like a hot take to say the Beatles WERE really the greatest and most influential rock band in history. They combined toe-tapping rock beats with infectious pop earworms to break into the mainstream, and throughout their career mixed in so many other influences they had, and inspired many other bands to search for new sounds and seek out different genres. They pioneered recording techniques and solidified the idea of a recorded piece of music as its codified canonical version (as opposed to, say, sheet music) by doing things that could only be replicated through the studio process. Sure, they showed up later in Rock & Roll history than names like Chuck Berry, Fats Domino, Buddy Holly and Little Richard, and they weren't quite as virtuosic as Hendrix or as experimental as Zappa, but The Beatles struck the perfect middle ground of novelty and familiarity and stretched out in both directions. In the future, when Rock music is taught the way Baroque, Classical and Romantic music are, there'll be four names of artists to listen to for an introduction to each genre. Bach Beethoven Brahms Beatles.

[@thepsychicalliance]

I'll unapologetically state that the Beatles are the single greatest musical act in history. It's a perfect storm of cultural relevance, musicianship, writing ability and an uncanny blend of personality that made for something far, far greater than the sum of its parts. There's lots of bands that blow them away in different aspects, but the fact that The Beatles were able to excel in so many areas, with no crucial weaknesses, coupled with the intense personal magnetism of their different identities makes them downright unapproachable by most other bands. I do agree, in 200 years, they'll be studied with the same diligence as composers of the classical era.

[@mattw404]

Battlestar Galactica

[@dinospumoni5611]

Berry would for sure be way more important to study before Beatles

[@hansolo631]

No musical group has the number of hits the beatles do. All music is going to sound old when it is old. Rap is going to be the worst, 80's and 90's rap sounds so quaint. 90's electronic music is already aged as well. The beatles music sounds like the beatles at least. IDK, they are easily the GOATS of the last 100 years. They are going to represent the last century in 500 years, they will be listed amongst stuff like Mozart, don't fool yourselves

[@ExcitedAnacondaSnake-hg8ec]

Bold of you to think Beatles will be taught along side Beethoven. Rock isn’t the first popular kind of folk music. There’s a million genres you never heard of, let’s call it the 16th century Europe lute lyre and two women harmonizing groups, or that kind of ensemble in 17th century France where one guy drums and screams a song, etc. none of those have lasted either. I don’t think polka, ragtime, or even blues will be studied like jazz and classical. Maybe I’m wrong but historically, it hasn’t been that way. Part of the reason someone like Beethoven is studied is there is so much there to study . As great as some of these pop songs are, there just isn’t much to it, not enough to form an academic department over. Ok, today we are learning Louie Louie it has 3 chords and goes DON DON DON, DON DON, DON DON DON, DON, and repeat until it concludes two minutes later…. Not taking away the difficulty and nuance of executing some of that stuff which a jazz band at Juilliard couldn’t reproduce with guns to their head (I’m thinking the great stuff like stones, bob dylan) but it is a simple art form. They are pop artists like Andy Warhol. Cultural criticism decides what is valuable I suppose…

[@paulmichael3511]

The fact that this video had to be made, almost 60 years after Beatlemania, just proves that they are way more important, talented and iconic than you can even fathom. There's maybe 2 or 3 artists from the new millennium that would even sniff that kind of legend in 2050-2060.

[@hurricanev6]

Ok buddy.

[@jacklumsden7444]

The Beatles suck. The worst part was that Lennon wasn't dealt with sooner.

[@rudywilliams6538]

​@@jacklumsden7444literally proving the points made in the video

[@jacklumsden7444]

​@@rudywilliams6538that the Beatles are awful?

[@rudywilliams6538]

​@@jacklumsden7444your opinion is based on being contrarian + being upset about john lennons personal life

[@queeniepeaches3972]

I feel bad for anyone who hates the beatles, not because of the music, but because they are missing out on the batshit insane fandom which is the modern beatles fandom.

[@ThruThaRoofComedy]

Fr its a fckn cult

[@XANAX-Pilled]

Luckily, (apparently), I've not come across this fandom. You'll find me on the NINternets. The Beatles DID kick ass, though. What is the fandom called... The Beatlievers? Beatle Army?

[@yoshiplasma]

and that's just the top of the iceberg

[@Mishakeet]

@@XANAX-Pilled… NINternets?!?! I’m dying laughing rn that’s amazing

[@XANAX-Pilled]

@@Mishakeet I mean, yeah, it's definitely funny, but NIN was legitimately one of the first bands to have a big online presence/fanbase...and people REALLY called it the Ninternet. 😂. I was twelve, and I was there.

[@AlcoholicAlbert]

The fact that they had all their accomplishments and completely shifting the music scene like no one had ever seen, with their techniques, and styles, all in a 7 year span is crazy

[@nick_vanderwood]

People who hate on The Beatles probably only listened to Yellow Submarine and maybe 2 other songs and decide the most basic "controversial opinion" to date.

[@fortynights1513]

I like Yellow Submarine as a song personally. Not everyone obviously, but some people may say the Beatles are overrated if they don’t have anything interesting to come up with when prompted for a hot take.

[@cheerfuljuan]

yup. they’re uninformed, and haven’t done the homework to have the opinion yet

[@pinkkrystalz7610]

OR it's because we actually have opinions and we're not obligated to like the same musical artists, especially if said artist are already popular. 🤷‍♀️

[@chamacocantones]

​@@pinkkrystalz7610saying the beatles suck will never be a valid opinion

[@pinkkrystalz7610]

@@chamacocantones I didn't say their music is bad, I just think they're overrated. You just further proved my point and that's people are allowed to have different opinions. Take this chill pill and take it.💁‍♀️💊

[@Katy133]

A reason why I love the Beatles is because the 1968 animated film Yellow Submarine is about them (saving a faraway land using the power of music). It's one of my 2 favourite films of all time, in part because of its striking art direction, creative use of different animation techniques, Odyssey-inspired story, and use of Beatles' music. It was also directed by George Dunning, who was a Canadian animator who lead a very interesting career (he helped find work for Richard Williams, who would go on to write The Animator's Survival Kit for budding animators and direct Who Framed Rodger Rabbit). The Beatles makes me feel cosy and nostalgic because of this.

[@julianwarr7246]

My Dad was born in the early 1920s and had children late in life. He listened exclusively to Classical music and Jazz (mostly Bebop and Modal with some Big Band stuff like Ellington). He hated, HATED popular music. He saw it as simplistic, repetitive and dumb. The only pop records which he actually owned were the Red and Blue albums by the Beatles. He loved the Beatles. They seem to transcend generations in terms of their appeal. You can dislike their music but it's hard, objectively, to dis them as musicians unless you have a non-musical agenda.

[@Ivan4Flores]

Whenever I tried listening to The Beatles, it would feel like listening to 60s novelty humor music or something. I was listening to Velvet Underground in highschool and thought they sounded much more modern compared to The Beatles. I got into The Beatles this year through Yellow Magic Orchestra of all things. They covered Day Tripper and I would read them be compared as "the Japanese Beatles." Because of their influence on YMO I tried giving them an honest attempt, starting with Abbey Road (thanks to Fantano's 60s 10/10 albums list). Come Together I must have heard dozens of times growing up so I felt "meh" about it and obviously Maxwell's Silver Hammer has a reputation. I knew I loved Something but then Oh! Darling became my "clicking" moment. It was an earworm and a track of theirs I had never heard before, I put it on repeat until I just had to finish the album. It immediately became a favorite. I dove into their discography using a Beatles podcast as a reference point. I was put under their spell so fast. In a way I'm really glad I didn't become a fan until recently as an adult, like I wasn't simply "born" into loving them because of my parents for example, or that I felt like I HAD TO like them because of their reputation. I had more musical/historical knowledge at that point and got into them from a natural and honest place. Side note: I think the Get Back documentary changing the conversations surrounding them might've also helped. I didn't want it to be work to listen to these colossal figures with mythology behind them, it proved they were just dudes in their 20s.

[@simplypodly]

Same boat. Always thought I hated the beatles growing up and assumed they were boring boomer music. Didn't matter that I never actually gave them a chance or listened to an album. Then a few years ago, as an adult, got a deep cut recommended on my spotify (You Won't See Me) and it immediately got stuck in my head. This made me check out Rubber Soul, and that was the beginning of an insane Beatles binge that lasted years. So many amazing albums I'm grateful I got to listen to instead of just writing them off.

[@albums8825]

Maxwell's Silver Hammer has great lyrics

[@Ivan4Flores]

​@@albums8825 I don't have much of a problem with the track, I especially like the Wendy Carlos ass moog part.

[@cremetangerine82]

@@albums8825 It's a cute bop about a serial killer, it slaps!

[@propagafun4368]

YMO is Japanese Kraftwerk

[@Cavemanner]

Honestly I gave them a listen when I was the most stoned I've ever been and suddenly it all clicked. I was able to hear all the influences they had on music I love and it was like this beautiful tapestry of creativity was laid out before me whereas before I had been trying to examine every individual thread.

[@samanteater]

Say what you will about them, but there's never gonna be a better band to smoke weed to than The Beatles.

[@Geo-wc7jc]

@@samanteater truth...i watched the music video while high. made me emotional.

[@brutaldomcom]

@@samanteater *Pink Floyd has entered the chat*

[@samanteater]

@@brutaldomcom They're my number 2, only because the clock in Time is kinda freaky when you're stoned. Tame Impala is up there too.

[@sathira_anuk5179]

​@@brutaldomcomand gets behind the Beatles

[@BeastZzGhostZz]

I fucking love the beatles. Really started listening to them 2 years ago and it changed my life honestly. Started playing guitar and writing music again. I'm 23 btw, and I can say you can learn a lot from them, but most importantly their music can make you feel happy and content.

[@joeg5642]

you like shit music

[@ncwheregirl]

I used to say that I hated the beatles before I even listened to any of their songs. I started listening to their albums and now I’m obsessed with them and their solo careers, especially John and Paul!

[@smellvadordali9806]

gotta check out ringo too. the best of the 4 imo

[@nickl2854]

George’s solo career was incredible

[@c4m316]

same!! :)

[@crustycrumpetkaiser6734]

@@smellvadordali9806on god I’m glad someone else knows

[@docvince1491]

“You’re Love is Forever” is one George Harrison’s best songs.

[@klipkultur3680]

''Old music is new music too'' 3:59. So true.

[@QuantumLeapEnthusiast89]

i used to be a pretty big hater of the Beatles if I'm being honest, for a pretty long while, say about a year or so. And in the span of a few days, I became absolutely obsessed with them. It was the first time I sat down and listened to their music from their various different eras, each incredible in their own way. Back then, I never understood the crazy hype, I only knew of their older stuff and the two George Harrison tracks off Abbey Road, and Come Together, of course. I thought they were fine, and defiantly didn't deserve the praise they were receiving, but then, I finally listened to them and their stuff as a whole about a month or 2 ago, and I REALLY understood why everyone loved them. Their music is so captivating, and once you understand their utter impact on music as a whole, it really gets you to appreciate their music. They were so talented at such a young age, and their whole psychedelic era was so experimental and interesting, and of course, absolutely amazing. Sgt. Peppers is my favorite album of theirs!! I get that most people are saying this to be different, but to the ones who genuinely think they're overrated, just look at their history and their impact on the music industry as a whole, and their later albums beyond the love songs they're so well known as. The Beatles are absolutely amazing in their song writing, and they are not overrated whatsoever. I LOVE THEM!!

[@natimber3040]

seriously anyone who says they don’t like the beatles simply hasn’t listened to any of their albums

[@samantharedacted9226]

I've been a Beatles fan since I was a kid because of my mom. I'm 24 and people give me SO MUCH shit for liking them. I can't get most of my friends to listen to them because they "heard they're overrated". I dont understand how a band can be both overrated and also so universally hated that so many people literally refuse to listen to them at all. They're my favorite band and It's such a lonely existence TBH.

[@Faron837]

Feel like they’re not universally hated. Most people like at least a few Beatles songs

[@samantharedacted9226]

​​​​@@Faron837Yeah that's the thing that kills me. I met up with an old friend and told him I love the Beatles and he said "Meh, they have like 10 good songs at best". I told him he'd only heard their biggest hits as they have OVER 200 SONGS and I promise more than 10 of them are good and he was shocked. He had such a solid opinion of them basically being mediocre with luck when he's never listened to ANYTHING other than their biggest hits. Most of my other friends are the same way. I have to BEG them to listen to a deep cut and they always like it, but it's so exhausting I just give up and let them be haters most of the time.

[@nilesthegoatthrowaways]

aye just make sure you never stop sharing your love for them. Never let other people dictate what you like. But also, don't be too concerned with what they like. I used to try hard to get my friends to listen to stevie wonder but I realized that I don't gain anything if they listen, it's just their loss at the end of the day.

[@samantharedacted9226]

​​@@nilesthegoatthrowawaysYeah I mentioned in another comment I usually give up pretty fast if they start to push back. I've had a couple friends agree to listen to a few songs with me and that alone meant the world, but I don't pressure them into liking the band.

[@Huguirur]

@@samantharedacted9226 Most artists would kill to have ten good songs

[@BlackLegSanji66]

My Grandma is a die hard Beatles fan and their music will always remind me of her so can't help but be a fan.

[@luvyou2]

that's also a connection, if this doesn't count as a connection then i don't know what is

[@albums8825]

those musical opinions are the best

[@ericwinter4513]

Saying that the Beatles are so overrated is so overrated

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

But the beatles are overrated. If they weren't they wouldn't have 3 albums in the top 5 best albums ever, their fans wouldn't lie about how innovative they were in publications and there wouldn't be such disbelief that's there's people who don't like them

[@gregh5061]

@@endtimessupportgroup5685 Your justification that the beatles are overrated because "they have 3 albums in the top 5 best albums ever" implies you think popular = overrated. Nothing wrong with thinking the beatles are overrated, but your justification doesn't make sense.

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

@@gregh5061 overrated does mean popular if that popularity isn't earned. Look the word up. They didn't create three of top five greatest albums by any stretch.

[@Goldhorn.x]

⁠​⁠@@endtimessupportgroup5685lol does it hurt you that they are the most successful artists of all time

[@endtimessupportgroup5685]

@@Goldhorn.x why would it? But like I said, if yr trying to argue that they're underappreciated pointing out how successful they are is probably the wrong strategy.

[@WordoftheElderGods]

Definitely need a video about the unnecessary hate Yoko Ono gets

[@joshf.4270]

This!

[@sathira_anuk5179]

Nah , she deserves it

[@jamesdean9183]

I don’t hate her until she starts “singing” lol. I have huge respect for her as a person and her importance to Beatles history, but I cannot stand her music. Would love to meet her tho

[@123rockfan]

@@jamesdean9183 the video of her singing with Chuck Berry and Lennon is absolutely hilarious

[@jamesdean9183]

@@123rockfan The way Chuck Berry’s eyes widen as if he just witnessed a murder gets me every time 😂😂

[@Wizuu0274]

Ringo may not be the best drummer in terms of technical ability or have the most outstanding solo career, but I think he still does deserve the title of being considered one of rock's greatest drummers because the dude came up with perfect and iconic drum parts for over 200 songs in the span of 7 years and across a vast range of styles and that's just an astonishing feat for any player to be able to accomplish, like it's just fascinating to watch the "Get Back" doc and that while everyone else is still workshopping their guitar lines and lyrics, he has his part down pat in like two or three takes. He may not have had the chops of insane players like Billy Cobham, Dave Weckl or Vinnie Colaiuta, but goddamn was he phenomenal from a composition and songwriting angle.

[@kanyeblessed6558]

Agreed. I ranked all Beatles songs last year and the number one thing I took away was just how much Ringo really MADE the song what it was.

[@SaveUsY2A]

"Everybody says the Beatles is the best and most influential band of all time. So if I hate them, that'll make me special and different."

[@99_King_0]

A few months ago I listened to All Things Must Pass by George Harrison and I loved it. I didn't even know people made triple albums.

[@biddleeewho4181]

Brother let me introduce you to a little record called Sandinista

[@BrianKishreviews]

69 Love Songs as well as the first album by Half Japanese

[@ducklordthegreat352]

@@biddleeewho4181i do feel like sandinista’s length works against it though, if you cut it down to its best 3rd it would arguably be better than London calling

[@biddleeewho4181]

@@ducklordthegreat352 strong disagree. The weird "filler" stuff (I hate the word filler) is what makes it amazing to me. Stuff like Junkie Slip or Look Here, or the kid version of Career Opportunities, is what gives the album so much of it's charm. It's like the Clash's version of the white album.

[@fdunlop]

@@biddleeewho4181 Totally agree, love Sadninista! because of its warts and all messiness. A band just going into a studio and being asked "What genre of music do you want to play?" And just answering "Yes"

[@EddwardScissorhands]

I was literally listening to All things must pass yesterday! Let it down acoustic is freaking beautiful. I’m almost 34 and The Beatles are still my favorite band of all time. I could go on and on but I’ll keep it short and say this was a great lil video Anthony 🪲🍻💚

[@thomasmartinson8208]

Harrison's debut work is superior to the Beatles catalog.

[@alexanderwood3465]

I get the impression a lot of people who hate on The Beatles are either cringey 'look at me, validate my hot take' kind of people, or those who only heard the singles and never deep-dived into the albums. From a musicians point of view too, I've never met a decent musician who doesn't like the Beatles. To me they're just the apex of what a recording artist should be, and whilst others have aged better in some respects (The Velvet Underground) the Beatles will be the eternal blueprint for anyone starting out in music.

[@joeg5642]

“eternal blueprint” you beatles sycophants are so pretentious and can’t help but always exaggerate the fullest degree

[@olivercharles2930]

You wouldn't even have a take on the beatles in 2023 if they weren't so great.

[@ripped181]

@@joeg5642I will validate your hot take

[@grogu1986]

I’ve listened to all of their albums in full. I’m also self taught in guitar, bass, drums, keys and vocals, and have played in numerous bands over the past 15 years, writing/performing original stuff and covering the likes of Slayer, Death, Maiden and Priest. The Beatles are easily the most overrated band of all time. Their voices were all annoying as hell and they were incredibly average musicians. Music has evolved. Listening to something like Death’s The Sound of Perseverance or Opeth’s Blackwater Park makes the beatles sound like the wiggles at this point 😂

[@ripped181]

@@grogu1986 I’d rather listen to a smooth Jimi Hendrix solo than a Steve Vai shred solo. Complexity doesn’t make things better. The Beatles also innovatived a lot, there is a reason MOST respected musicians admire them at least a little bit. It’s not a coincidence. You sound bitter for whatever reason. (Not my business.) Also ironically not being able to read music or understand theory that well is what led them to breaking so many rules, which in turn is something that helped make them big. They laid a blueprint that a lot of people followed. It also dosent make sense to compare them to bands that they influenced/came after. That’s like me shitting on 80s cars because my 2020 jeep is better. It’s like obviously man.

[@Derekstefan]

I'm in my mid twenties and proud to be a Beatles fan maybe superfan with the amount of knowledge I know about them. I wasn't forced into it in fact it was a watchmojo video which featured the beatles that started my interest in the band. If you're gonna diss them at least listen to one of their album's first.

[@waxcavern]

All Things Must Pass is just a breathtaking record that has definitely shaped me a lot as i have gotten older.

[@zackm9910]

If you love music, there is so much to learn and love about the Beatles. Absolutely incredible band. And their production quality is so great it almost sounds contemporary 70 Years later. Solo albums are cool, too. You have to give them a chance, and every album is different. Give The Magical Mystery Tour a chance and watch the movie!!

[@zackm9910]

The beatles also had a cool music shift once they became too famous to perform. Afterward, go check out the moles. 60s music was so unique.

[@tonightsbigloser]

1:28 I agree. All Things Must Pass is arguably the best solo Beatle record and George Harrison has arguably had the best solo career out of all of the four.

[@DMJDestructorPodcast]

not arguable. He absolutely did.

[@conormurphy4328]

Coldest take

[@raymanx55]

Temporary secretary

[@XXXTENTAClON227]

In Johns defence he didn’t have much of a chance

[@RDai-yp7rp]

I agree, Careless whisper is a classic

[@seanmccourt2369]

Anthony, you can’t just shout “Kill John Lennon! Kill John Lennon!” for 10 minutes and call it a video.

[@Derekstefan]

😂

[@brianking2365]

“John Lennon’s dead, Butters!”

[@Chachi97]

I disagree, actually

[@miniflem1]

I had a dream where Anthony did that in an only-fans video.

[@miniflem1]

Is it weird that I want that to be his next video?

[@bswalem]

Im kind of amazed how many people have mentioned All Things Must Pass here. It is also my favourite post-beatles album, just edging ahead of Plastic Ono and Ram. I always thought people generally went with one of Lennon's first two!

[@claratucker287]

I love them since I was a teen. It helps that my parents don't care about them so I never felt like somebody was forcing me to listen to the songs

[@PogieJoe]

Same. When I started caring about them a lot, I asked my grandpa what he thought about them and he said, "They were a bunch of idiots who paid girls to scream for them" lol

[@paranoidplane9799]

As a Mexican American, I totally agree. My parents know about them but aren't necessarily in love with them.

[@oteataa]

I'm 20 years old, and I started listening to The Beatles just a year ago. I became obsessed and spent six months immersing myself in their entire discography while learning about their history. Thanks to them, my musical taste has broadened significantly.

[@mutedmathamatician]

Can’t tell if this is sarcasm

[@dabunnydabunny1243]

​@@mutedmathamatician It's genuine. Fantano commenters are usually bad at sarcasm.

[@kurdt1012]

same

[@kurdt1012]

​@@mutedmathamaticianwhy would it be sarcasm

[@Jones-xf5rr]

@@mutedmathamaticianWhat makes you think it’s sarcasm?

[@xthatghomiex2939]

I'm a 23-year old musician, went to a presigious university for Classical and Jazz. The more I learn about music, the more I grow to appreciate The Beatles.

[@nino_bueno99]

Swagg like Brian Wilson

[@The_king567]

Lies

[@klums7651]

@@The_king567 damn u really disproved him man

[@The_king567]

@@klums7651 yes I did

[@jakestraughn1821]

Beatles tier list when?! The streets have been begging for it.

[@Junior13113]

The Beatles and the Beach Boys have tied as my favorite bands for the past almost-decade. Their music has quite literally changed the way I perceive and listen to music, as well as how I write my own music. They are thoroughly my biggest inspirations, musically. The thought process of refusing to listen to an artist for the sole reason of hearing from someone else that they're overrated, without listening to enough of them to form your own opinion, is wild to me.

[@hugobecookin]

Got any beach boys recommendations outside of pet sounds ? Love that album to bits but don’t know where to go from there

[@ShaNaNa242]

​@@hugobecookin SMiLE, Smiley Smile, Today!, Friends, All Summer Long (if you want something a bit more summery) Surfs Up. I'd also check out the plethra of bootlegs/alt albums people have posted on YT.

[@Junior13113]

@@hugobecookin If you loved Pet Sounds (my personal favorite album of all time), then you can either go backwards to albums like "Today" or "Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!)" to get an inkling of the precursors to Pet Sounds, more specifically the latter halves of those albums, where there's a clear tonal and instrumental shift and we get to hear what Brian was cooking in the studio that would become the elements used on Pet Sounds. Post-Pet Sounds, your best bets would be "Sunflower," "Surf's Up," "Friends," and "Holland." Of course, there's the seminal "SMiLE Sessions," which is an absolute must-listen, as it was meant to be the follow-up to Pet Sounds and was waaaay more out-there, but still just ridiculously incredible despite being unfinished (you can listen to Brian's 2004 reimagining of this album for a would-be completed version). And if you like the "SMiLE Sessions," I would recommend "Smiley Smile" (the lo-fi replacement that came out instead of "SMiLE"), and "Wild Honey," a lo-fi Soul-influenced album that came out after "Smiley Smile." Outside of The Beach Boys as a group, I would also VERY HIGHLY recommend Dennis Wilson's solo effort "Pacific Ocean Blue." It's more along the lines of Elton John or Todd Rundgren than a typical late-60s Beach Boys album, but the gorgeous arrangements and harmonies are undoubtably influenced by that era.

[@jasonshepard9492]

​@@hugobecookin Surf's Up and Sunflower

[@rocknroll_jezus9233]

​@@hugobecookinSmile sessions released in 2011 is insanely good

[@jorgeskuf]

I used to think they were overated, but I did like a song here and there, but recently I went through their discography and I liked it a lot. Ironically I like their earlier stuff more than their post revolver stuff. while there isn't a Beatles album I personally consider 10/10, there are always some songs I don't like or get, I do get the hype now. While I have been going through their history I have been consuming so much Beatles lore that whenever I come across an old event, I think to myself is this pre-Beatles, or post-beatles lol

[@maiamaiapapaya]

funny you say that, I got super into the Beatles after taking a trip to London in high school (I'm 26 now). After learning so much about the Beatles history, I started mentally categorizing historical events from the 60s in reference to what Beatles album would've been out at the time.

[@ripped181]

Funny enough I find most of pre-rubber soul to be pretty trash give or take a few songs.

[@jorgeskuf]

@@ripped181 I'm a sucker for harmonies so that probably plays a big role haha. I do love post rubber soul stuff, and it probably has some of my favorite songs, but in terms of full albums i like a lot more songs from the early era

[@ripped181]

@jorgeskuf Right on mate, they did have some eargasm harmonies, in particular I love the ones on Think For Yourself and If I Needed Someone

[@The_king567]

@@maiamaiapapayathat’s just sad

[@leftyjoness]

Love the Beatles to death. I learned the basics of guitar chords through learning Beatles songs! Few bands have such a massive collection of bangers and such a diverse discography, let alone during the 1960s. They earned all the hype they get and their contribution to music as a whole will always be legendary.🤘

[@JarrettMehldau]

Yeah, learning guitar and about songwriting through Beatles songs was my way into music too.

[@Ambarian]

Any musician I’ve ever met who was worth their salt respects them for what they did, regardless of whether they personally like them or still consume their music. That in of itself is an accomplishment

[@cremetangerine82]

And if they do talk trash, they're probably shit.

[@The_king567]

You clearly never met a black person

[@discobones]

I was raised on The Beatles. My mom was a Beatlemaniac when she was a teen and also went to Woodstock. She had amazing taste in music and raised me around some good shit. It's not all Boomers! Plenty of us kids from Boomers were brought up to appreciate the complexity and beauty of The Beatles' music.

[@VintageBalderdash]

“It’s not all boomers! Also I get my music taste from my mom.”

[@alexlestat]

​@@VintageBalderdashwith your logic, anything introduced to us by a boomer make us a boomer. Kid Kudi? Boomer music since he was heavily inspired by Pink Floyd

[@joeg5642]

listen to better music, not shit.

[@TheBlankableOne]

As a 20 something I can proudly say the beatles are my favorite band. I still remember picking up yellow submarine as a 5 year old off a shelf and begging my parents to buy it for me. Feels weird to be nostalgic for a sound that is mostly dead by today's music standards, but despite that, I can still hear the influences echo throughout our mainstream contemporary music. I'm a Beatles fan and I'm proud

[@cubedmelons876]

The Beatles are the Super Mario 64 of music. Praised as the second coming of Christ at the time and for many years to come. Changed what music and video games would become from that point onward. So popular that "overrated and bad" hot takes about them are a big thing in 2023.

[@BigFatBoom]

I feel like people saying they hate The Beatles have not even listened to them. They just try to be "different". Its mind numbing.

[@moonlightbae111]

or they only know "i want to hold your hand" and "she loves you".

[@SillyGooseTV]

When Ringo said "I'd like to be under the sea in an octopuses garden in the shade." I felt that

[@KooperKyle]

All things must pass is my favorite album, and will continue to be my favorite album forever. Simply beautiful.

[@nikodembiniek7103]

"All Things Must Pass" is my second favorite album of all time, nearly close to the number one - "Abbey Road". It is fantastic album which excruciatingly good songs. I love this piece of music so much!!!

[@jabba820]

John Lennon in particular is over-hated these days. Not excusing some of actions of his youth, but he died a man who strove to change the world for the better and pushed for ideas greater than himself. Also, he was reconnecting with Julian before he died and was a great dad to Sean. The lawsuits/fights over his will are also annoying topics given that the man clearly didn’t plan to be murdered at age 40.

[@chillepalmerz]

When I actually looked into his spouse abuse allegations I felt like I'd been lied to. Don't get me wrong, it's bad what he did, but slapping someone once out of anger and not doing it again is very different from the implied narrative that he spent half his waking hours beating the shit out of his girlfriends.

[@jabba820]

@@chillepalmerz I do believe in redemption for people if I think it is authentic. He is definitely a case of a man who changed and strived to good in his later years. He is not a god amongst men, but there is a lot of misinformation about him. He was a human being and should be understood as such.

[@marvinbohme7575]

@@jabba820 That's right and also some folks not accepting his body of work is quite baffling to me. Overall, the Beatles weren't just great when they were together. I mean, Lennon described his angst and his inner demons the best when he was a solo artist, at least more directly. "John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band" offers a fantastic narrative with no filter yet profound and character describing. Some may also say it's an egotistical thing and sometimes he had a big ego, but no... how many musicians have talked about themselves through the lens of music? And using songwriting to reveal the reality of one's innermost self, the good, the bad and the ugly, that's not as easy as many might think it is. "All the Things Must Pass" by Harrison, the triple album epic, and "Imagine" are also very memorable in their own way.

[@Eric_Hunt194]

No no no! Mr Melon man just needs to virtue-signal, stupid! Stop undermining his efforts.

[@cactaceous]

@@chillepalmerzYeah, the Woke mob sheep have been completely over exaggerating John’s “violence” and misogyny for the sake of just hatred in their part. He slapped his girlfriend once when he was a teenager and she eventually married him and said he never did it again. If you know his background you would know that’s pretty fucking tame. He then turned into a, what the kids now call, a simp. A domesticated Mr. Mom who allowed his ultra feminist wife to run the house and family business while he baked bread and took care of their son. I mean…

[@JhuntdaProdigy]

I’m only 27, and I didn’t dive into The Beatles music until a few years ago. When I did, I absolutely fell in love with it though.

[@prangbro]

Great take Anthony. Especially what you said about how in coming decades people will listen to the Beatles without all the cultural baggage and context. As someone born in the mid-80s with parents born in 50/51 the 60s were everything growing up, and then the first contemporary music I was into (britpop, british guitar bands of the mid to late 90s) was so indebted to the 60s that it didn't feel like it was going away (I guess it was less than 30 years ago since the beatles split back then). Scary to think there will soon be people - probably already are people - who don't know anyone who lived through the 60s!

[@sssyruppp]

i'm glad you made a video on this topic as it's something that's irked me in the past yet i've had trouble tackling it due to my love for the music

[@thegeist79]

Whether you like the beatles or not, all modern music has been influenced by them, from a recording point of view, they were the first to use the studio as an instrument, recording techniques, experimentation. Even one of the first to use samples. When Derek Ali produced To Pimp a Butterfly he listened to Abbey Road to help mix the live instruments. They are pioneers, and every musician since threads a path they help forge.

[@PomBare]

I echo the words of Paul Gambaccini - The Beatles were the most underrated group of all time, because even though they are known as the greatest, they're greater than that.

[@alexandernelson945]

All Things Must Pass is my favorite solo album from any of the Beatles. It’s stacked with beautiful rock songs ranging from languid, spiritual jams to straight-up rock bangers. One of my favorite albums of all time.

[@lynnpehrson8826]

You could release 'tomorrow never knows' right now, and no one would think it sounds old.

[@nateds7326]

I don't like how not like how not liking the Beatles has become hipsterish cool guy take. I know music isnt objective, but I dont really respect anybody who doesn't atleast recognize how important their music is too literally all of music since the 60s. Their impact on culture at large is literally incalculable.

[@drhall343]

I remember seeing Ad-rock talking about this on Sway. He said he refused to listen to the Beatles when he was a teen because he was into punk and you weren't "allowed" to like the Beatles. But as you get older, you care less about those rules.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Yep, that was even the case for the whole 70s punk scene. It was uncool to be a Beatles fan. Ironically, a lot of them were Beatles fans

[@zackzallie8735]

There was even a story when The Sex Pistols kicked out their bassist for liking The Beatles.

[@simplypodly]

Just like Lou Reed trashing the beatles in the 70s, yet the velvets were covering them when they were starting out and Cale was citing Revolver as a big initial influence.

[@SlyJak2]

As a former Beatles hater, in the past I've tried to explore what was the main reason why I didn't like them when everyone else around me did. Dated sound? I mean... so is any band from the 60s, and I still liked the Stones, Hendrix and early Pink Floyd. Band members that weren't very talented at their own instruments? Neither were the members of Queen or Radiohead and they still created a ton of masterpieces. Albums that have more songs than they should? So did Toxicity by System of a Down, Physical Graffiti by Led Zeppelin and Stadium Arcadium by the Red Hot Chili Peppers, all records I loved to death despite having some filler tracks. And then it hit me. It wasn't the Beatles. It wasn't John, Paul, George or Ringo, or anything they did while they were together. It was their fanbase. All my life I've heard "The Beatles are the best band ever", "No band is as great as The Beatles", "The Beatles were the perfect band". And so, when I finally heard all of their albums in the first few days of 2021, I just... couldn't get what was so good that everyone put them on a freaking pedestal for? Sure I liked Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, Abbey Road, and even some of their early releases, but... just what was all the fuss about? Nothing really wowed me or came remotely close to some of my favourite albums. Okay, fair, there's always going to be someone who's not going to enjoy them that much. No big deal right? Or so I thought. After that, no matter where I went online (or real life for that matter) and mentioned I didn't get what was so great about the Beatles, it was like being thrown in a dictatorship regime, where if you don't agree with what everyone thinks, you are so fucked. You say something that remotely suggests you don't believe The Beatles are the best band ever, it's like you summoned Satan and started the apocalypse. This doesn't happen with any other band (minus Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd but that's another story). I've seen people say other classic bands were overrated, like the Stones, Queen, AC/DC, Kiss, Led Zeppelin, Nirvana, Cream, The Doors, and many more, and all of those combined couldn't even make 1% of the outrage people would have if it were the Beatles. If you say The Beatles are overrated you're pretty much persona non grata. To this day, even after becoming a fan and someone who thinks Abbey Road is one of the best albums ever made, and possibly even Revolver, I still find this to be a problem. Beatles worshipping really needs to be toned down, I can't think of a single band who has a diehard fanbase this toxic and insane, not even Radiohead's fanbase is this bad. Personally I much prefer some of their British Invasion contemporaries, like The Rolling Stones and especially The Who, my favourite band of all time, and if I were to make a list of my top 30 favourite bans, I don't think I'd even put The Beatles on it, and there's nothing wrong with that, unlike what many people believe. I like them now, and I'm glad I do, because there's a good handful of their songs that I listen on repeat that are just too good not to be heard (examples: Let it Be, Tomorrow Never Knows, Savoy Truffle, In My Life, Golden Slumbers / Carry That Weight / The End).

[@marianat1393]

the beatles are the best band ever

[@thefumexxl]

It's literally just people being contrarian. It's been happening even since they were a massive band. They were so big and so ubiquits that some people were driven to completely go the other direction because it's human nature when something is that popular, it makes people start to question if it's actually any good, or try to find the things they can dislike about it because they don't feel comfortable with how many people like it. I know I found myself softening my opinions on music I used to turn my nose up to, especially stuff that I liked as a teenager that I "grew" out of. I find myself growing back into because it still speaks to me on some level.

[@Billiamwoods]

Part of it is that people genuinely don't enjoy them and just like being, as you say, contrarian. So it's not necessarily people being edgy for the sake of it, but some people definitely enjoy the commotion. There's plenty of music I don't like, but it's a lot more fun to say "MBDTF is overrated" or "Rodeo isn't Travis Scott's best album" (positions I genuinely hold) than it is to say something that doesn't get a response from people.

[@ringo8410]

I used to get into pointless arguments over musical taste and generalizing about how certain artists categorically suck.....then I graduated from middle school. A good rule of thumb for the internet: it's OK for people to like things. It's OK for people not to like things.

[@TheMBE2003]

I think part of the problem is the mixes available on streaming are pretty bad for all albums up until Abbey Road. The 2009 remasters are remasters of the 60s stereo mixes, which were done before stereo was the standard and before the tech was more sophisticated. Thats why you have songs where all the instruments are on one side and all the vocals are on the other. Obviously there are the recent remasters which are on average better but they SHOULD put up the mono mixes (the original intent) for every album and make them the most readily available. That's what the Beach Boys have done. People are used to listening to old songs in mono whether they know it or not, so it should be the same for the Beatles

[@MrJbdizzle]

28. Massive beatles fan. To me their music is timeless and endlessly charming, dripping in nostalgia. Hater gonna hate. They will never stop em from being great

[@The_king567]

It’s not but okay

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

Used to say I “hate” The Beetles up until about 3 minutes ago. I just put on a random song (Taxman. That cowbell is bussin!) and I can vibe with em.

[@domenicgalata1470]

You can’t go wrong with The White Album and Abbey Road. Just fantastic albums.

[@cosmonauthal7651]

As a life long Beatles fan I love that this comment never made me notice or appericate the cowbell in Taxman. Thank you!

[@sathira_anuk5179]

Listen to Rubber soul

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

@@domenicgalata1470 I think I was listening to a 2022 album (I assume a remaster album) with an amalgam of their songs. I really don’t remember why I didn’t care for this group. We even played a The Beetles themed Marching Band show for a season in 2014. The arrangements were amazing!

[@TURBOMIKEIFY]

@@domenicgalata1470 I think I was listening to a 2022 album (I assume a remaster album) with an amalgam of their songs. I really don’t remember why I didn’t care for this group. We even played a The Beetles themed Marching Band show for a season in 2014. The arrangements were amazing!

[@jaidynr87]

I’ve always thought this ‘hatred’ came from the fact that they’re quite literally the biggest band to ever exist. Same way I see a lot of hate for Elvis Presley. The fact that they’re literally that famous probably irks people. I’ve personally always loved Beatles, Elvis, and Michael Jackson not only because I think they’re the best at what they do, but their iconography is just so everlasting and amazing

[@enyazogd5325]

I'll keep Michael Jackson but throw The Beatles and Elvis in the fire lol And keep Led Zeppelin instead

[@sathira_anuk5179]

​@@enyazogd5325only you lol😅

[@D_01I]

I’m a huge grunge and metal fan, and I’d love to hear you talk about what you think of 80s-90s music. Maybe you have already talked about it, I’m not sure. I just loved the way this video addressed the Beatles, and I figure you would have good takes.

[@marcosmartinez8088]

So, i have listened to all thhe Beatles album. Definitely i will say George Martin as a producer really help them throughout the 60's, the production was good/great in most of their albums. Also, they sounded like a brothers group (there's a harmony between brothers or sisters groups that i could not explain, but if you know you know), which is pretty impressive. Their music evolution between 1965-1970 is just insane, they clearly make a difference, they were not just another boy band.

[@paninovevo1162]

I get the thing about the sibling harmony but while the Beatles vocal harmonies were cool they didn't even come near to the ones made by the Beach Boys (the Wilson brothers)

[@cremetangerine82]

The Beatles weren't a boy band.

[@thefinalkayakboss]

I think "drive my car" was the first beatles song i ever heard. Decent band. Heartwarming story of 4 young men persevering and overcoming their crippling britishness.

[@finlybenyunes8385]

Ahem. MOST of the great bands were British or German...

[@keithkearney8578]

I’m neutral on the Beatles mostly but by god, all things must pass made me love George. What an album

[@littled5986]

I know for a fact the people that say the beatles suck have never listened to a Beatles album before

[@zackzallie8735]

They don't understand the intellectual wisdom of Yellow Submarine 😔😔

[@conormurphy4328]

@@zackzallie8735we’d all like to be under the sea 😔

[@Primatenate88]

The Beatles are good, but their fans are absolutely hateable.

[@littled5986]

@@Primatenate88 very true, a lot of Beatles fans can be very annoying

[@ChewyRibbit]

their best album is a 7, I've heard them all multiple times throughout different periods of my life.

[@thirdhandlv4231]

The Beatles introduced me to music as an art form, they made me buy a guitar and actually start learning it, no other artist has for me showcased the awesomeness of music like the beatles have.

[@VeganRevolution]

It is old music but also new - hence Now & Then

[@faustsiftar7683]

The Beatles are my favorite band ever, even though I haven’t listened to them in years. Dozens of amazing songs from many different styles and genres. I can’t name a favorite song since there are so many

[@strangebrew1231]

Play any song off of Please Please Me and follow it with any song off of Abbey Road or the White Album. That's an incredible progression

[@jayhoffmann1989]

Best 3 solo albums by each Beatle Paul McCartney: RAM, Electric Arguments, Band On The Run (with Helen Wheels) John Lennon: Imagine, Plastic Ono Band, Double Fantasy George Harrison: All Things Must Pass, Living In The Material World, Brainwashed Richard Starkey: Ringo, Goodnight Vienna, Sentimental Journey

[@shadquirk607]

There's no better feeling in this world, except for maybe sexual gratification, than listening to an older band/track and hearing the direct influence it had on your favorite music. It's like discovering God.

[@thriftstorechicken3395]

I kinda feel that with the Ramones, or the Clash with relation to Green Day or the offspring.

[@timothywilliams3157]

I feel that way about Kraftwerk. So much of the music I listened to growing up in the 90's was practically invented by them.