Hatton's Genesis Coaches Engineering Samples | Unboxing & Overview

[@thiruraj3866]

Sam: Hattons there is a opportunity for a train pack Hattons: write that down write that down

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! Fingers crossed! ;D

[@reliantrailways]

Lol

[@zorielloperena6398]

that is sooooooo true!!

[@MrJoeyWheeler]

I stopped everything I was doing to watch this! My only problem with the coach packs is that they don't contain all the coach types and are a mix of 4 and 6 wheels. I'd rather get a complete pack of the 4 and the 6 wheels separately, myself. Very proud to see you got to look at a test sample from Hattons. You're really moving up in the world and building bridges... or viaducts, I suppose! :P Anyway, I'm still trying to decide what livery I want. I'm a big GWR fan, but I'm also really considering waiting for batch 2 for the LSWR. Really though I'd like to see them do some "generic" liveries to represent private railways. Simple things like, say... all-red, all-tan, something like that. If I had the talent at painting, I'd love to paint them dark green and greem, to resemble the Old Express Coaches from early Thomas series. In any case, these things definitely look worth their pricetag, especially compared to the likes of "BR Mk2 coach #5,330,000" from other manufacturers.

[@PayasYouListen]

The LMS and LNER packs are all 6-wheelers.

[@SamsTrains]

haha thanks so much! Ahh okay, yeah I suppose the packs are a bit limiting! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jmtrainz2582]

I’d like to see an unlettered teak. That’d look great.

[@leroyholm9075]

Hi Sam. I know it is not relevant to this but here is some stuff on the Franco Crostis (they still totally baffle me) Unfortunately I never saw The Crostis in action as they were converted eighteen months before I became an active. 92020-29 were built at Crewe in 1955 and had Franco-Crosti boilers. These unusual boilers in which the chimney was only used for lighting up the locomotive, the normal exhaust coming from a separate outlet on the side of the boiler. This was designed to reduce coal consumption. The expected reduction in coal consumption did not match predictions; in addition the engines experienced problems with excessive corrosion. They were rebuilt along more conventional lines in 1959-62 and still retained the preheat boiler (underneath the main boiler) although this was sealed off. In this form they were classified 8F as the boiler was smaller than those on the standard members of the class. They all ended up at Wellingborough shed (15A) where I saw them. Want to know how weird Take a look at this! kzbin.info/www/bejne/m5KXhplna6aJgMU kzbin.info/www/bejne/maSwlpuFibqEb5I kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zpvac4iBhZVmipo Apologies for the gatecrashing but when you see the videos I think I will be forgiven

[@SamsTrains]

haha I think they baffle most people - thanks very much for the info! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@masterofsouthern5427]

Fantastic first sample of these coaches I cannot wait for the finish versions of these thanks for the upload mate 🙂🙂

[@SamsTrains]

Me neither - going to be epic aren't they?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@berries0fdestinydestiny826]

I like the simplicity of this coach, this can be great for painting or customizing!

[@SamsTrains]

Me too - though they won't be selling any unpainted ones sadly! :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@berries0fdestinydestiny826]

@@SamsTrains np :)

[@andresdeleon5160]

Those coaches are incredibly amazing.

[@SamsTrains]

They are!! :D

[@andresdeleon5160]

@@SamsTrains, indeed.

[@clapz9068]

I know can’t wait for in to be finished

[@westmidlandsrailenthusiast]

These coaches look amazing, predicting these will sell out when they are fully released

[@SamsTrains]

I agree - hopefully they're making lots! ;D

[@Deuce_and_a_half]

Just like the Hornby clerestories from last year!

[@drosera88]

You know your channel is really reaching your audience when you have a manufacturer send you pre-production samples of their products! This is great.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate! I am very fortunate - appreciate it mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@riffraff7949]

I honestly like 4 wheeled coaches better than bogey coaches

[@GaryNumeroUno]

Good job none of the coaches are bogie fitted then!

[@SamsTrains]

I know - I'm leaning in that direction too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@charlieflockhart2203]

I'm still not sure until I get my hands on those new ones

[@kevinhale9400]

What, even better than toplights???

[@scottlewis775]

These smaller coaches always did have a sort of charm that bogie ones didn’t. Nothing wrong with bogie coaches mind you but I adore 4 and 6 wheelers.

[@AlongPreservedLines]

Those coaches are amazing but what’s even more incredible is that they sent you the samples! Brilliant unboxing and overview! -TheImperialDiamondSpinosaurus

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much mate - yeah it is incredible, I'm very grateful to them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@darwinsmonkeybutler2113]

Full brake is so cool. Probably the one that’s going to sell to everyone. Mind you, all the early locos are going to have rakes... I reckon there’ll be more early layouts being made. Great stuff.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree! Can't wait to see all the early layouts born as a result! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidshaw5979]

Great video Sam, having seen the quality of these coaches on this video i am minded to to get a set and a terrier or a J36 !

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh that sounds awesome - hope you can get them mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@onnomulder9775]

Great gesture from Hattons that you were the first to show the Genesis Coaches Engineering Samples, Sam! Thanks for sharing. Cheers Onno.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree! I'm very grateful to them for letting me take a look! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Agent-pw9cq]

When these come out I might buy some they look amazing! or when I can actually start a OO gauge layout

[@SamsTrains]

Great to hear that - sounds like a great idea! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Joshuagt34]

Y’know even as an American this has made me want to make a British styled layout, even if it’s just a shelf layout I need these!

[@SamsTrains]

haha awesome - I'm very glad to hear that!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SteveZodiac777]

Thanks Sam for a great review - I can't wait to get some of these on my layout, they look fabulous. Hats off to Hattons!

[@SamsTrains]

It's a pleasure mate - I agree! :D

[@masterofsouthern5427]

They produce these as oo gauge imagine what it will look like in o gauge 🔥🔥 thanks for this Sam 🙂

[@SamsTrains]

I know!! Can't wait to see Dapol's! :D

[@selwynlawton7939]

Hey Sam.... I put my Pre-Order in months ago. I know what it's like to miss out by waiting for the last minute!!!! Hattons will sell out very quickly of the more popular liveries..Thanks for your wonderful reviews that we all look forward to..PS: Chinese owned and run Bachmann will need to double their Quality and Half their Prices to keep up with our Hattons!!!!!

[@SamsTrains]

So did I! I've been burned like that before - it's a pleasure, really glad you enjoyed it! Agreed - Bachmann been going that way for a long time! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Directgeekfilms]

Those coaches look extraordinary. Thank you for the wonderful review!

[@SamsTrains]

No problem mate, glad you liked them! :D

[@SDJR7F88]

They really are superb! The level of detail they have gone into is just amazing! Just gutted they plan to take a look at SDJR livery for the third batch, especially considering all the SDJR locos on the market with nothing to haul! Ah well, guess my locos will have to wait a few more years for something to haul...

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate!! Yeah this is true - have they announced SDJR ones then?? At least they're doing it!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@SDJR7F88]

Yep, third (proposed) batch. Just hope they come to fruition.

[@SwissArmyTin]

As a broke American, how many vital organs do I have to sell to get several rakes of these?

[@SamsTrains]

haha quite a few unfortunately - well worth it though - without too much excersion, you can live perfectly well with only one lung and kidney! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jmtrainz2582]

Wait for them to go on the used market, so the shipping can’t screw you over.

[@kyldeking]

I am so excited they look wonderful wich version are you getting I think I will be going with the great western.

[@SamsTrains]

Me too - I'm still deciding what I'm getting!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@georgewolf7063]

Those are glorious! They remind me of that 1860s 4-wheel coach "Absolute History" posted a restoration of on their youtube channel just a few weeks ago! Does anybody make HO/OO models of that sort? I would totally run something like that on my layout, and I'm an American! ;)

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I know what you mean!! I've never seen any, but I'd love if someone did make some! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@ausfoodgarden]

After seeing these samples I'm so glad I pre-ordered some of them, way back when the L&Y liveried ones were announced. If I can get some more cash together I might have to get a few more in other liveries. Thanks for the close-up view.

[@SamsTrains]

Me too Gerry - I'm much reassured too! I'm trying to save up for a few more now too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@mikewoods4177]

Hi Sam yes there were 6 wheel coaches with sliding centre wheel sets it was known as the Cleminson wheelbase. I should think it required a lot of maintenance and may be part of the reason 6 wheel coaches fell out of favour once the bogie vehicle came into use and engineering solutions were found to stop underframes bending in the centre and distorting the bodies. By the way if Hatton had used the centre pipe on the underframe as a spring wire they could have given the centre wheel set some form of side control I would think fairly easily.

[@SamsTrains]

Duly noted Mike, that's very interesting - I can imagine that causing problems for sure! Hopefully won't be the case for these coaches!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@marilynscott2662]

My husband can remember in the early 1960s Tri.ang trains as it was then brought out Great Western colestory roof coaches in chocolate and cream.with white roofs.they where a little shorter than other coaches produced at the time,he bought the second class saloon and break third.they looked a little bit odd being pulled by a B R six wheeled saddle tank !

[@vectorbrony3473]

Hattons has really hit the nail on the head with these coaches. They look amazing and clearly are well designed and having so many liveries means they have open a huge market. Can’t wait to get mine

[@SamsTrains]

I agree - they really do look promising!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Chaostheory1971]

Looks like Hatton's have got the designs pretty much perfect "straight out of the box" and even unpainted they look pretty impressive. Maybe with the slidong axle all that is needed is a slight amount of grease? I'm sure that whatever Hatton's do to remedy the small problem won't take very much. Fingers crossed you can get your hand on some of the painted samples to test. As always yet another excellent video, Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely - they seem to be basically there already! The centre axle was getting firmly stuck on something (when I fiddled with it), so I'm not sure if grease would fix it, but it's probably a good idea to lubricate them! Fingers crossed for decorated samples! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PayasYouListen]

A little note about the GWR livery. It's firmly era 2, as it has the old monogram logo placing them pre-1908. Post grouping, they'd have had crests or the "shirtbutton" logo for 1934-1942. Hatton's haven't announced any post-1908 GWR liveries in any of their future batches just yet, but it would be nice to see. It would be especially nice to see a batch in GWR 1912-1922 crimson lake, which is a bit of a forgotten livery. I'm quite impressed. I'm probably going to get a GWR set from batch 1 and I'm holding out for a CR set which I think will be a batch 3 release.

[@SamsTrains]

Right you are, duly noted! And that would be nice to see - plenty of scope for more in the future!! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ALLCAPS2317]

Sample stock box 10 is my favorite engine of all time, glad that there’s finally a model of them!

[@SamsTrains]

haha yeah - it's amazing to finally have one!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@lukeheichlinger7810]

I’m not educated at all in British coaches, but I have to say these are so beautiful even without the decorations. And they seem so detailed, So many metal parts and separately fitted parts. even when you said they were battered and pushed around by hattons I wouldn’t even have guessed that. What a deal from hattons again!

[@SamsTrains]

I agree with you, already they're looking amazing! And they did look almost faultless, even after all that! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CymruJedi]

Fair play to hattons for sending these out. I haven’t followed model railways for an extremely long time but this seems pretty unheard of

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - it's very good of them indeed, and they did the same for their P class too! It's very mutually beneficial though - I get to make a video for my channel, and they get their product in front of a huge audience, so it's a great arrangement for us both! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CymruJedi]

Sam'sTrains Cheers for the reply! Watched the full video with my dad and we both said when the video ended “I never thought I’d ever be this excited for coaches” 😂 Thanks for the content mate

[@spitfirecrusader6546]

Got a full set of the plumb and milk coaches (1 of every coach) on pre order. Seeing these running just confirms I was right to pre order. Can’t wait to see the decorated samples. Great vid Sam......next on the list to see - The APT!!!

[@SamsTrains]

Oh wow, that's going to be fantastic - I think we were right to pre-order too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Tom-Lahaye]

Firstly, a very good review Sam, you did some research before filming this. Then a big thumbs up for Hattons, it's the first time there are proper RTR models of 4 and 6 wheel coaches, as all there was available were either kits or toys. Although being a generic design they perfectly cover the many variations in use with different companies in the period, and lets be honest, little details like rounded or square angles on window corners and beading is something you're not going to notice soon in OO. I would like Hattons to produce these in O gauge in the future as well, because I think they will be very popular in that scale as many of the RTR locos in O gauge are very well suited for these coaches as do the layouts many people have in this scale. At least I have (brass and RTR) locomotives in 7mm scale where they would pair up well with.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Tom! Absolutely - they did a fantastic job! O gauge versions would be awesome, this is true! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@peters1127]

Sam you did it again, you convinced me on purchasing a Hornby LB&SCR Terrier. Now you convinced me to purchase three Hattons LB&SCR Coaches today, Thank You. FYI looks like sometime in July is the current estimate for deliverey.

[@SamsTrains]

haha fantastic - hope you really enjoy those!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@kevinhale9400]

Now all we need is a selection of early era 2 and era 3 coaches with bogies to vary the train loads even more, especially now that Hattons have introduced a selection of lighting options i.e. gas, oil and electric. That would be glorious. Throw in a selection of said coaches with toplight windows and we are good to go. All in all though, Sam, an excellent review as always and looking forward to you reviewing the final release, full livery stock when it eventually arrives.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah absolutely - hopefully those are next on the list! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@ewanmcgregor146]

These coaches look really wonderful, very characterful & typical of pre-grouping local coaching stock designs. 6 wheel coaches always seem to me to be on the verge of derailing on tight curves, as there cannot be much side-play in their wheels. In Japan, many mainline diesel & electric locomotives have been built with Bo-Bo-Bo wheel arrangement, meaning they are 3 bogie units, so in model form, the outer bogies are powered, but the central bogie is usually not powered, but rather mounted so they can move sideways in the curves as well as left and right! I have 6 models of these types of locos in my fleet. From Kato, one EF81, one EF210-100, and two EF510-500s. And from TOMIX, one EF210-100 & one EF510-0. This style of design is very reliable & allows the locos to run very smoothly, but I suppose it’s not really an option for 4 or 6 wheeler coaches!

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Ewan - I think so too! Thanks a lot for sharing - that's very interesting stuff, I've seen a few like that myself! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@robmasterman]

An outstanding set of coaches Sam....thanks again for reviewing them for us...Bob

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Bob, it's a pleasure mate! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@raemania7078]

They look interesting! I’m excited about seeing them in their liveries. May try to get some SR 6 wheelers once they get released

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate, yeah me too - the liveries are the next big thing to wait for! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@taylorshaw8000]

I will definitely be getting some of these. Thanks to your review of course.

[@SamsTrains]

Great to hear that - really appreciate it!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PhilPage227]

Those look superb Sam, I would definitely be interested in the Southern version to put behind my Southern Terrier. Great review. BTW, my Hornby Palethorpes 6 wheeler with moving centre axle easily manages my first radius Peco curves.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Philip, that sounds great, hopefully you can get some! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tomlawton7087]

Thank you for taking the effort to understand the lighting options; other reviewers have got these confused. Please investigate the need for the other tanks under the chassis; (gas for lighting, etc) as well as vacuum brakes. Excellent review; thanks for this. (Hopefully you can get the GPC for review sometime soon?)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Tom, duly noted! Not heard anything about the GPC for a while, but I'll accept if offered! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@triskellian]

Fascinating look at modeling prototypes! It was surprising how well they performed.

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! I was too - very promising! :D

[@lapiswake6583]

Beautiful coaches. I might be tempted by a departmental one from the first batch (6 wheel only), or I could wait for NCB blue ones from the 2nd (6 wheel only), or wait for NER ones from the 3rd.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Lapis, that sounds awesome!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@christianmorley6203]

Fantastic vid Sam! Been looking forward to these for ages! Thanks

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks so much - me too, for sure! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@NiccosTrains]

I have to say that the 4 wheels variant of these coaches are really close to the TAN Branchline Coaches used in the first seasons of Thomas

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh really?? I'm sure someone will make good use of that then! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@daniel14duck33]

Wow!! Those coaches look Amazing!! I’m definitely buying them!! Great Video Sam!

[@SamsTrains]

They really do! Hope you enjoy!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@JDsHouseofHobbies]

I know nothing about British trains, but those are some of the nicest pieces of equipment that I've seen in a long time.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree with you - they're turning into incredible models! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AdiPullen]

Wow Top detail Never saw the luggage rack being in them This out do hornby and Bachmann rolling stock Great look Tar for sharing and being honest. Keep safe arp

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Adi - they certainly will be quite something - thanks for the comment! :D Sam :)

[@tonypetts6663]

The amount of detail is amazing. If they do produce them with all the detail we've seen here, including all the metal and alternative parts then £30.00 will seem like a steal. The sliding center wheel set in the middle of the 6 wheelers as inspired as well. Top job hattons!

[@SamsTrains]

I agree Tony, particularly for the price!! As always, very excited for these now! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@iceeblueburst03]

Nice review on these 2 wheeled and 3 wheeled coaches in the gray livery! These look fantastic when being hauled by a tank engine like the P class or the Webb Coal Tank! 😃👍

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much - yeah they do look superb don't they?! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Damien.D]

What an impressive level of detail. This is pure eye candy, from underframe to ceiling. (BTW central axles, or even bogies, that move laterally is a real existing thing)

[@SamsTrains]

Absolutely - eye candy 100% Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GrumpyL5]

Thanks for this video, I'm so excited now. They look beautiful, superb detailing. And at last something LNWR. PS. The bog would have been much nicer than they are on modern inter-city trains.

[@SamsTrains]

Me too - can't wait to see how they turn out! :D

[@farric1]

Great video and good to see that Hattons respect you enough to send you these samples for review. The LNWR livery looks particularly attractive. They are not too far off the original protypical design...but the livery looks great in the photos. I wonder if Hormby will release a period LNWR loco to go with them? (At present only Bachmann produce RTR LNWR locos)

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much Craig, it was an honour! Agreed, the liveries look amazing, and I'd love to see more LNWR stock! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

What are you going to do with the unpainted coaches?

[@SamsTrains]

I sent them back the next day! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@pannierprairie7884]

They genuinely look incredible. Have already pre-ordered 2 lit GWR coaches, definitely gonna think about ordering some more!

[@SamsTrains]

Sounds superb - really hope you enjoy them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@agriben7591]

The wheel set up reminds me of the lms milk vans Sam 😂😂 I do have one Thx Ben :)

[@SamsTrains]

haha it is very similar actually - wow!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AllensTrains]

Never seen that sliding centre axle before. I think it might derail on some layouts. These carriages in SR livery would go well with the IOW Terrier to make an IOW pre-war train. The only thing is, you are not allowed to have a 'bog' carriage on the IOW as these were not allowed because of the risk to the Island's water supply!

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah it's very unusual - I only know of one type of wagon produced that has something similar! Ooh yes, the SR ones would look superb! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@CrystalLakeRailway]

These coaches are amazing, and its amazoling you were able to.gey them so early!

[@SamsTrains]

I know!! I'm really grateful to Hatton's for that! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@billywindsock9597]

I have ordered a shed load of the LNWR coaches, I think at least one of each. all with lights. Looking good.

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh fantastic - that's going to look fantastic all together! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@FunAtDisney]

A unique American question: Our coaches of that era , and really every era had compartments on one side and a pass-through or hall down the other (unless it was “coach” seats where there was a central isle and seats down either side), so one would never never enter a compartment from the outside of the train. So I gather once someone was in their compartment seat they were there to stay for the length of the trip and couldn’t get up to walk around? Also, how would they access the toilet room during travel?

[@SamsTrains]

Yes that's usually the case with our British coaches too, but obviously not with these early ones - we're talking very early here! Good question on the toilet, I'm not sure about that!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@2112pk]

I was excited to hear about these when they were announced, but they're really shaping up to something special now. sadly I'm waiting on a couple of the batch 2 liveries, but I'm more certain than ever that I'll be getting a few over time. i hope the broadly-acurate-but-generic idea catches on for rolling stock with wide variations but a basic similarity. i could see the idea working for industrial locos too, a singular freelance design in the style of a locomotive builder with small detail variations, i think there'd be a definite market for that.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I agree - this has made me even more exited for them! I hope so too - if it proves a popular concept, we may well see more! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@michaeldavies9600]

I think they look great,i have a few 6 wheeled wagons by Hornby,they have a slightly more complicated gubbins to shift the centre wheels across.But these models are beautiful.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes they do you're right - much more complicated, but they also work well! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@sturmtigerking4263]

Wow they look amazing! Alot of options there. Great vid. Hope to see them soon. :D I kind of want to get some even though I don't have any pre grouping locos. Might get one just for those coaches

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks mate, haha I don't blame you, I would too! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Christophoross]

Hi Sam I've spoken to Hattons regarding the new 4 and 6 wheel coaches and it seems if you want to control the lighting on DCC you will need a decoder to be fitted. This potentially adds another £20 per coach. Did you know about this was this evident anywhere on your sample. Cheers and keep up the good work.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for sharing Chris - no I was told not to take the roofs off the lit samples, as they were manually wired up temporarily just to demonstrate the lighting. But otherwise, yes, it's fairly standard that lighting should be controlled via DCC... the alternative being to have them lit all the time! Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Christophoross]

@@SamsTrains thanks for coming back Sam. It's a shame they didn't include a reed switch like Hornby as the coaches are lovely but adding the cost of a decoder even a £10 one will increase the price of each coach

[@noahhahn161]

I have never been more excited for rolling stock in my entire life! Finally, my GNR Stirling Single will have some proper coaches to pull. Grant it, I'd still rather prefer to get GNR clerestory coaches, but seeing as no one to my knowledge has made those yet, a set of 6 wheelers will do just nicely I would think!

[@SamsTrains]

haha me too actually - exactly, perfect for the Stirling!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@PsiPancake]

The coaches look amazing! I pre-ordered the 4 pk of GWR coaches and an extra 4 wheel and 6 wheel GWR coach :p It isn't coming out in Q1 anymore but I am okay with waiting till Q2! Saves me a bit on the wallet! Especially when you have to convert CAD into BPS 😅

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh exciting stuff - hope you enjoy them! Yeah I guess it's understandable with everything that's going on! :( Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

Well I hate to say this, but goodness me I may have to order a 4 pack of these, now just to decide what livery would look best...

[@SamsTrains]

haha I have too - just couldn't resist! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@paulypyro]

these are seriously going to be amazing value for money given the incredible detail, not my era but a must have

[@SamsTrains]

I think so too - the value suddenly seems superb having now seen them! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@joelightrailway2362]

Sorry for this yet again for this late comment, but WOW 😮 those carriages look so awesome and perfect to have on a model railway layout.

[@SamsTrains]

No problem Joe, I agree, they do! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidmolin8944]

It's cool u get to review or check out the first sample of coaches before anyone else

[@SamsTrains]

Very cool! I was very lucky! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GosportRailworks]

Been keeping an eye on the development of these, though hoping that they might make them in N Gauge as well, not had any RTR 4/6 wheel coaches since the old Farish 4 wheel ones from 20+ years ago, if they ever did I'd have to consider getting a third Terrier to make a mini LBSCR layout! As always great video Sam, when I get back into OO I might have to pick up two for my OO Gauge Terrier. ~James

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh fantastic - they'd be superb to see in N gauge, definitely! Many thanks for the kind words - and I'd recommend doing that!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@patrickwebb7311]

Those coaches look great, even in gray. I'd almost like to get a pair of gray ones with the P class like that. Can't wait to see the finished results.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree, they do!! That thought crossed my mind too!! xD Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@deanwilliams5466]

Gwr western was a company before grouping so still fit into era 2. Lovely coaches shame I've gone on to o now. Awesome video Sam yet again.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah you're right - it is the early GWR livery too! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@AMOGLES99]

I don't know if this was generally the case, but there definitely were six wheelers in which the centre axle moved.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes so I've heard - though apparently they had mechanical issues!! D: Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@michaelliles693]

I love the look of these and I have had a GWR set pre ordered for months. No-one appears to have commented on the ugly couplings. I trust that they will sit in NEM pockets? The alternative lighting types are interesting but not sure how one could select which option when ordering.

[@SamsTrains]

Yes they're all NEM - to fit any other than the NEM tension-locks as standard would be suicide for obvious reasons! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jinkwon8410]

I see coaches in the title and thumbnail, I click. You can never go wrong with coaches. Hey Sam, if you’re feeling it, and I’m assuming the samples are yours to keep... you thought about a custom paint job?

[@SamsTrains]

haha exactly - particularly nice coaches! No sadly the coaches were only mine for a day! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@jinkwon8410]

Sam'sTrains Aw that’s a shame. I was very interested in what color you’d use for your coaches :3

[@douglasfleetney5031]

Sam, you need to Google the Cleminson System for three axle coaches. A few still exist and are very interesting in their action. So the middle axle moving is correct. Great to see as I have ordered a full set in the SECR livery. I'm probably dead when the Wife finds out...

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks for sharing! I have been reading about those - they sound absolutely terrifying!! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@nicuzn1197]

The 4-wheel, 5 compartment with oil lighting would be a great match for Annie and Clarabel if painted in Sudrian Yellow. The size is just perfect to be show accurate.

[@SamsTrains]

It would!! No doubt some people have plans for that already! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@GuyKenward]

Lovely i must have to get some when I get some new locos

[@SamsTrains]

Awesome!! :D

[@DouglasParkinson]

I hope that Hatton's consider scaling the CADs down for N scale versions. I doubt they will, but I can wish. They would fit nicely on my layout.

[@SamsTrains]

Drop them an email to suggest it - if enough people express interest, they could well do it! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@DouglasParkinson]

@@SamsTrains I will do, you don't know if you don't ask :) From experience though, a lot of companies are hesitant to look at N scale if they already focus on OO, because of the relative difference in the market sizes; N is much smaller than OO, so there are fewer customers who may be interested in a product and as a consequence, the costs of making a model would take longer to recoup than with OO. It's why Model Rail magazine's models are all OO, as an example.

[@gilbertporter4992]

Hey Sam, I have to ask if the four wheel, two axle versions are the same type of coachs that inspired the characters of Annie and Clarabel in the Thomas the tank engine series?

[@SamsTrains]

I believe it's a similar sort of thing, for sure! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@andrewdking]

These look incredible. Hornby and Bachmann must be mad they delayed bringing out something similar with all the beautiful Victorian locos now being produced. I own an NRM GNR Sterling Single and its manufacturer Rapido was going to bring out a set of prototypical coaches to match it. They delayed and/or got cold feet. Either way, their market has now disappeared with the introduction of these. Life's to short as they say to wait for Rapido and even if they did produce them, I expect they would retail at £60+ each knowing them, so unaffordable for a full train's worth. Now those six wheelers. Hornby Magazine produced an LMS Stove R Van made by Dapol. It couldn't negotiate points, so I told Hattons they had better get the mechanism right or I wouldn't be buying. Can you definitely confirm Sam that the six wheelers are a sound design please ? Also do you or any of your followers known the best collection of GNR coaches which would suit a Stirling Single as and when I eventually get it back from having all its faults corrected !?

[@Poliss95]

Rapido make British outline to special order from others, such as the NRM. It would be those who got cold feet.

[@SamsTrains]

I suppose with hindsight the other manufacturers must be kicking themselves for never doing this - I honestly think they never even considered it! I can't confirm that 100% at the moment, as I did see a small number of derailments, though their performance on the points was very reassuring! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@andrewdking]

@@SamsTrains Thanks for the feedback. I've also seen one of your recent monthly news videos. Interesting to see Dapol have introduced some 0-gauge Victorian or Edwardian coaches, so they are on the ball.

[@o.m.b.demolitionenterprise5398]

I have a question... do you think these coaches would go particularly well with a terrier? I’ve been looking for a small coach for a while.

[@SamsTrains]

Yeah I think so - particularly a pre-grouping terrier! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@Tombola1993]

These are cool coaches, and to get an early sample of them too must be an honour. You gonna paint them, or are you gonna keep them as they are? They could be valuable overtime.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Tomas, it really is an honour! I only had these for a day - I sent them off to the next person shortly after! Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@alanthorne3921]

Amazing detail.Cant wait to see them finished

[@SamsTrains]

Me too Alan! :D

[@the4tierbridge]

WOW! Your climbing up the model railway industry fast! They might watch your videos and take your criticisms into account! Isn’t this exiting!

[@SamsTrains]

haha I know it's super cool - they wanted to know how they got on with my layout - very good that they recognise not all customers will have perfectly laid track!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@1987TimeLord]

Great preview Sam. Already got two liveries on pre-order :) Going in for GWR and SE&CR. Did you at any point try taking off the middle wheel set on the 6-wheelers and run them with only four? Hattons mentioned on one of their videos that its possible to do that.

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks very much mate - those are going to be fantastic! No I didn't try that - I thought the stakes were a bit too high! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@enderplant]

Yes, I remember back in the Victorian era the Railway coaches comes in 3 colours, Grey, grey and grey.

[@SamsTrains]

haha!! xD

[@David_Twomey]

hello sam even when they are not painted they still look beautiful with all that detailing and will you get the finished ones when they come out and i would like to get some of the painted ones or a sterling single and love the video from david

[@SamsTrains]

I agree David, they really do! Can't wait until they're done! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@davidgale1453]

Great review of genesis coaches, do you think there is any demand for the GW crimson livery (1912/1922, I think)?. This the period I model. I have the Kernow steam rail car on order in the crimson option but all else RTR is the choc&cream. GW in the livery for that period would be great.

[@SamsTrains]

Thank you! No doubt there would be demand for such a thing - that sounds lovely to me! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@OlivierGabin]

When you see that the basic 4 wheels coach made by Hornby is sold at nearly GBP 20, you draw your hat off to Hattons. I take a complete GWR and a complete SR set as soon as they are on sale !

[@SamsTrains]

You're right - that's crazy isn't it, £20 for that?!? Thanks for watching, Sam :)

[@OlivierGabin]

@@SamsTrains I've checked the RRP of one on Rails of sheffield : one penny below GBP 19 ! Add GBP 4 and you have the RRP of a Mk 1 Railroad coach... You have Dapol OO vans with a RRP of GBP 12 far more detailed (and with NEM couplings) than the 4 wheels coach from Hornby Railroad...

[@roboeggman797b]

Hi Sam hope your ok in these conditions but I have a question for you......... have you ever considered about editing your 00 gauge layout and elevate some of the parts? But this is only a question so please don’t be offended in any way... Thx Christopher

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Christopher! I have thought about it - maybe one day! Things are going really well as it is though! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@barleyarrish]

I was watching this and sighing, perhaps I should have modeled the pre-grouping era? It was the lack of suitable coaches that made me choose BR Black. Still Hatton's well done. I'm sure these will sell like hot cakes! Thank you Sam,I'm off to do some gardening, mutter mutter...

[@SamsTrains]

Ahh of course - pre-grouping would have made little sense before this last couple of years :( But sure - I expect they really will sell like hot cakes!! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@Pirate-Scorcher-1998]

Stunning coaches I must need some for my terrier. But if I get a southern terrier should I get the southern green coaches ?

[@SamsTrains]

Thanks Connor - ooh fantastic, yeah that'd work well! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@quarrylocomotiveproduction5439]

You also need to get started on the narrow gauge collection

[@martinpattison4018]

These will be amazing when they are finished and I hope Hattons will carry on making them for some time. I am not a fan of Limited Editions as so few are able to get them and then some are then on eBay for over the odds. Martin. (Thailand) It will have to be the LNER and the GNR for me, plus a couple of J36s and a J15. (Yep, dreaming again.)

[@SamsTrains]

I agree - hopefully they're a big sucess! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@tommogriff]

Great Video Sam! Went to a train fair yesterday and got some cool goodies 😀

[@SamsTrains]

Ooh fantastic - great to hear they're going again!! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@liamcalder1385]

Hi Sam These coaches look amazing even without the paint. I see that you have a new controller. I wonder what livery that you will go for. I would like to see on of those in a Caladonian Livery. I like the GWR livery. I think you are going to go for the LBSC livery. Haha. Great video.

[@SamsTrains]

I agree Liam!! And yes, that's the big question now! ;D Thanks for watching - Sam :)

[@a.z.pantera5577]

Probably stick to the Great Western livery and pair them with a 14xx or a Pannier tank. I hope to one day make my own Little Western. There's the wrong way... or the Great Western way! ;)

[@SamsTrains]

That would be superb actually - I hadn't thought of that! :O Thanks for watching - Sam :)