Have Gaming Mice Peaked? (shocking)

[@nem900]

The only thing that got shocked was my bank account

[@YurttheSilentChief1]

It seems we need to revisit the early 2000s with shape ideas again. Such as logitech's extremely curvy mice, roccat's funny shapes, and the plethora of MMO mice with numerous side buttons.

[@wexos674]

roccat drag clicking mice was the peak of gaming mice

[@LobsterReviews-r1b]

We need to stop releasing the same symmetrical mouse slop imo. I think we can still innovate in the ergo department, and also develop more modernized versions of shapes like the Razer Naga. Hell, we can create some outlandish MMO mice designs as well, which would be pretty cool. I think companies have just opted to keep creating the same safe shape slop. We should get crazy with mouse ergonomics and design, I think that craziness is the path forward to more interesting shapes within the mouse scene.

[@boardzy]

I agree, people think weird shapes won't sell but one risky shape release wouldn't kill a company like pulsar or lamzu

[@QQable]

@@boardzy They gotta just do the Finalmouse approach and produce mice in low volumes to see what sticks. The problem is that the processes mouse companies use are so heavily integrated into large scale manufacturing, the tooling and capacity cost fortunes and become affordable only with quantity.

[@atascatorDAOC]

60grams naga 4tw

[@ta_________________________4-K]

i find it odd how ergo mice have steep humps at the back that force you to bend your wrist upwards to use it. Seems like the complete opposite of "ergonomic". We definitely need more experimentation. A long, flat, right handed ergo mouse is my dream for palm grip.

[@lnbabz]

G Wolves literally the only company out there doing original shapes. Yes. We need a boardzy_maus

[@boardzy]

Collab with gwolves

[@superdrone5039]

we spent so long ignoring them that by the time they got QC ironed out, they had suddenly leapfrogged almost the entire market

[@lnbabz]

@@superdrone5039 ever since their HTS+ release QC has been good (if we'res not counting in the exploding HSK Pro batteries)

[@Seas0nedChef]

I am on a GPX2 rn and have decided that the market is too much right now. There are so many options and everyone is paranoid about not having the latest and greatest that they forget to pick a mouse and just use it.

[@Sproutfps]

This is why I LOVED the mm720 shape. Sad that the qc was bad but at least CM had unique shapes.

[@sikla24]

Its not saturated for people with large hands. All we have is probably the deathadder. The rest is just small mice and we add in mods or grip tapes just to make it wider.

[@bottomtext5872]

The market moved to chasing every last gram with small fingertip shapes. Pretty annoying for people who cramp up using a small shape for more than 30 minutes.

[@ancientslav4863]

You need to make a 2025 video like "My most fav wired and wireless gaming mice EVER"

[@joeshow750]

I think options within each shape/design is the next logical step. So several options for click pressure, option for mouse coating (glossy coats ples), options for skates, option for type of scroll wheel, etc etc

[@boardzy]

Kinda like what pulsar is doing with their custom program

[@joeshow750]

@boardzy Dang I didn't know about that. I must have missed the video you probably did about it. They have a lot of options too, though no coating options. But yeah, each company should probably start offering this.

[@QQable]

A lot of these are manufacturing problems. If some mouse company started using something like SLS or SLA more extensively, they could have essentially infinite shapes on demand with comparably cheap low volume production. The glossy finish is a sanding/polishing step, we used to have a bunch of them, but almost every mouse company stopped selling them because they were deemed unprofitable. One small change that I'd like to see in future mice is mouse companies adapting standardized skate patterns. If there is no performance reason for innovating the mouse skate shapes, then what are we doing making new ones for almost every random mouse? It just drives up their price.

[@Doom1AM]

We need the Dr Scholls of gaming mice. Measure your hand in store and print a mouse.

[@MekaniQ]

honestly true, will be harder and harder to do massive improvements

[@Pistaciio]

That's what im saying dude. We're at a time where you can legit just get anything over the last 2 years and be extremely happy and it'll keep performing until it dies. The only thing that brands still have left to do is make things EVEN lighter or try and make a very risky new shape. I love where things are right now in terms of mice, boards and pads. It'll be interesting to see what the rest of the year's developments will be.

[@monk_cs2]

Now we have solved lightweight mice can we work on 90g mice again please thanks, regards

[@kspectre21]

Bring back more weird ass shaped mice like the Cyborg / MadCatz RATs. Super edgy gamer aesthetic that really stands out

[@Gidrah]

Been happy with the GPX for 2 years now. Im more excited by gpu and monitor tech improving.

[@AnotherHaloReviewer]

Think they should focus new shapes, better battery life and higher quality materials.

[@KangarooJakk]

We need a 2025 Mouse collection video tbh. I see a lot of them just in this video that peak my interest and I have NO fucking clue what they are lol

[@StaySic4Ever]

Well, I mean our hands are not changing and growing differently hah. In a way expected. I love the Vaxee XE good size, lowered main buttons. The Hitscan Hyperlight is also great really, very light with also being plastic and full shell.

[@cjam777]

people are still busy coping that their mouse is too heavy (50g) and that’s why they can’t get out of silver

[@ad1v9]

shape is just so emphasized in this community that mouse companies are afraid to try something new that people might not like. its just safer for them financially. shape is important but, also people forgot they can adapt to something new.

[@Delbs1]

Lately I've been feeling a lot how shape is indeed king. I had a GPX, OP1we, R1 Pro and a Series One Pro. One moment, I decided to buy an used Glossy NP-01s Wired, and GOD it is just *so* good - To the point I can perform better than all my other mice, even though their weight, latency, wireless and coating is superior to this Vaxee's Shape is just so important for consistency. I am sure hoping we get to see more ideas coming in the horizon, specially from brands that already have great expertise in making great shapes.

[@Speedy_stage902]

Bro liked his super light so much he bought 100 more of them 🤦‍♂️

[@Terra101]

No. No company has figured it out yet, and it's sad.

[@blanke_bolster]

I can tell you, with my 'side grip' I have the best aim I need. I grip the mouse unorthodoxly (a ergonomic grip, it's between supinated and neutral). My palm at the back and finger tips at the front. That's my secret weapon. I dont need to do aim-training. In my opinion all mice needs to be around 10 to 11 cm, for medium hands, like I have. Not 12 cm like most gaming mouse are...

[@Frozoken]

The only tech upgrades left I can think of that would be decently impactful is better wireless stability (especially to interference) and better battery life

[@CRAiCED.]

It's time for gaming pens

[@teefuq]

Gaming mice peaked for me when Pulsar released the X2V2 Mini with it being a mouse for fingertip while having flatter side flair. No other shapes could satiate my hand and fingers anymore.

[@dobiloru]

the markt is just sleeping, playing currently the mz1 and its such a new breath of fresh air interms of shapes and that shape is already again like 3-4y old, feel like we got endless claw, fingertip grip mice but nobody does like the true ergo shape, would love to play full palm grip on a mouse but even on the biggest mice i have to play forward palm grip where half of my palm rests anyway on the mousepad, cant be the only one who wants like a massive comfy 60g palm gripper like a intellimouse or a rival 300 shape

[@lacnoic2236]

fr, i'm peakin with my mice rn

[@zoinked1351]

Still no EC1 sized wireless

[@WoollyOwl]

Since using an op1 8k, every wireless mouse feels like it has lag. Never thought i'd be using a wired mouse in 2025

[@lucaschenJC]

Cap

[@weirdguy9659]

@@lucaschenJCnah, op1 8k is just THAT good

[@lavenderlolxd]

Real peak is baby oil covering your entire body on cam

[@blanke_bolster]

2:19 The Xtrfy m8 was a new innovative shape, remember?

[@ValJCI]

2:20 probably the U2 and of course zowie had to step in to make a goat claw shape

[@oandgw]

I appreciate the innovation in breaking the 30g barrier for a full size mouse, but the prioritisation of weight saving over literally everything else was never a great balance for me. It’s sort of a gimmick which I doubt will hold up well in the long term.

[@lavenderlolxd]

Gaming mice will peak when you make a baby oil review

[@erisium6988]

Problem is, we already made pretty much best shapes for everything, no matter if you have small medium big size hands, if you want no hump, back hump, middle hump, aggresive ones like xm2 that fill your hand, more relaxed, or flat like fk2, sensors are sorted we have 2 or 3 sensors capable of being 4k wireless stable and low lantecy chips, we have so many switches from optical to mechanical that offer light, heavy, tactile, mushy everything, we have good coating, we have mice with holes and solid shells, and soon we will have everything of i just said in 3 mateiral choices magnesium, plastic and carbon. Shapes are overrated to people say shape is king, i yet to see popular mouse witsh shape that aggressive that i cant get used to it in 2 hours, if mouse isnt too small or big its okay, thats the truth. The thing i hope is that there will be new scroll design or at least better encoder mechanical or optical ones because IMO thats something that didnt improve at all and finally a good optical switch that will be compatibe with rashea design so i can swap them in viper and deathadder.

[@GabrielPetcu]

Not sure how many more shapes there can be given that the human hand is not changing.

[@KetboySlim]

in terms of input lag and feel the op1 (wired) was really game changing for me, very responsive. sadly my hands couldnt fit the shape so i had to return it. but i hope this type of clicks and sensor is gonna become the new standard for future mice.

[@knaffty]

@ketboyslim Xm2 8k brother.

[@erisium6988]

if you want to say you can feel a input lag diff on op1 vs op1w4k or any other wireless mouse, you are lying - maybe if you have 480hz oled and 14900ks 6ghz and you play offline games aka aimtrainers, if you have ryzen with 240 or 360ips and play online with ping you are just lying.

[@KetboySlim]

@@erisium6988 have u tried the op1? If not go order it, try it out and tell me about it. I have "only" a 165hz monitor and I could not feel much of a difference between 4K and 8K on the op1. But there was difference between 4K on the op1 and 4K on my beast x mini. Also the clicks just feel like u r clicking just right out of ur brain.

[@KetboySlim]

@@knaffty ty but I have small hands and xm2 looks like it's too big for me.

[@Lekser]

I dont think they have peaked. The QC is still garbage on most mice. Anything you buy has high chance of having some sort of defect like click wobble, shell flex or wheel dying. Waiting for next step in mouse market -> better QC

[@vulpocalypse]

Mice have come a long way. I’ve been rocking the Pulsar Bruce Lee forever now.

[@amberrubiks9233]

tried every mouse under the sun until i got the op1we a year ago roughly? idk. not purchased another mouse since and not gonna bother upgrading to the 4k as i literally dont see a point.

[@vodkastudios4170]

Unless the new Razer sensor can make me dinner, there is no point in buying it. My Beast X Max is insanely good and I will probably pick up the new one WL Mouse just released so I can switch while the other is charging, and really what else is needed? Metal feels way better than plastic to me so these 2 mice are all I will need until the entire way we control PC's change.

[@ayda2876]

I HARDDDDD disagree, I think most mice are shit quality always some issue with clicks always some issue with wobbles on the sides or creaking or bad stock skates or bad side buttons, it's extremely rare to find a mouse that's so well built where you are "oh ok this one is perfect" I've had around 15 mice and the only one that was perfectly built is the GPX. All my end game gear mice (3) have clicks issues all my other brands have one issue of some kind. What is the biggest problem imo in the industry is build quality and standards as a whole

[@stefanpapdi5151]

Mice have a lot of space to imrpove actually, imagine a zowie feeling mouse 38g endgame gears latency. The shapes make a difference. zowie even made a u2.

[@latvianpotatoe]

I want to see manufacturers move away from safe symmetrical shapes and give us some truly shocking shape. Give us an asymmetrical high hump za shape, or a rear hump ergo, or a reverse taper wide front narrow back symmetrical. The next frontier I think is a shell swappable mouse so we can get more shapes without having to buy a whole nother mouse. Some kind of base plate with swappable shells that have the click mounted to the shell like end game gear button modules.

[@erisium6988]

the fact is even tho ergos are comfy i dont think they are that "ergonomic" for aiming, i tried every good ergo mouse and i always perform better with symms - it doesnt even matter it can be xm2 it can be s2 it can be gpw or viper v2 or v3 i dont think there is symm mouse i would play worse than on ergos, even tho i love them for everyday use because they are so comfy to hold. Swapable shells are gimmic, people dont want to change shapes they want to go to shop and pick best one or in modern online shopping times they want a safe shape that they can blind buy and perform well in games aka viper v3, gpx thats why they are so popular and thats why companies dont do crazy shapes - people dont refund gpx because shape doesnt fit their hand - profit.

[@benjaminlucy9337]

GPX is still the goat no matter what people say

[@erisium6988]

shape literally doesnt fit any grip, its too neutral so every one can use it. GPW is the goat for showing you can make good wireless mouse, GPX was worse mouse mainly because of the clicks and coating was imo worse weight modded gpw was much nicer back in the day, and GPX2 is unplayable.

[@dodger3294]

Peak won’t be here until g303 Daedalus apex clones pop up

[@drainstar333]

Boardzymouse Bladee-MZ1

[@TheSaniwaa]

Casually ignoring the G wolves HTR he loved because it was different lol

[@nvrtrustvotegus]

eversince i started watching boardzy which like wasnt even a week ago i am now the proud owner of a lamzu maya x a razer viper v3 pro a logitech gpx sl2 a ninjutso sora v2 a beast x max 2 artisan raidens (soft and mid) and 8 sets of unusual way magic ice feet… thanks boardzy

[@boardzy]

Wow that is shocking. Thank you for the 8 australian dollars

[@MrThaigamer]

I stopped buying other mice after xm2w released we are surely at peak of the gaming mice

[@LateBandwagon]

Bro is flexing being off drugs for one month

[@MrThaigamer]

@ that’s what we all do

[@Frozoken]

Yeah it's my endgame until they eventually release a version 3 with lighter weight and 8k which hopefully should have some benefit by then. Emdgames philosophy of performance over everything else is so perfect to me and knowing they make sure they don't have huge latency flaws like the +20ms latency on the next click after lift off that affected the maya x and a few more mice recently too is great. I do miss the weight a bit on my maya x but the xm2 is so consistently fast and solved the months of inconsistency issues that I couldn't pinpoint which turned out to be the aforementioned bug that came came from lamzus software debounce filter.

[@ScenesByOmnic]

The upper threshold has become indistinguishable by human perception. Different mouse shapes, sure, but the tech is well beyond discernable difference and the copium out there will drive sales beyond human perception as it already has with other technology and peripherals. Boardzy kind of obsolete but if I know this generation you'll still get clicks because, hey, what else are they going to do on their phones while ordering door dash than hear about unnecessary tech they can buy to go deeper in debt? Honestly, thanks for the good times man. You kept it real all throughout.

[@ad1v9]

bro is overreacting lol. mouse reviewing isnt obsolete because the market feels stagnated. even if the tech is flawless, thats not everything that makes a mouse

[@daejuanobrien1399]

Someone tell me the best 3395 mice under $50

[@boardzy]

VXE Mad R, Zaopin mice, Mchose

[@daejuanobrien1399]

@ thank u anakin, may the maus be with u

[@fustyk2829]

why is the ring skate on the gpx removed, is that better?

[@aura5068]

“Weight reduction”

[@nyororomeowelas1225]

I am almost done with buying mice… still need the Arye FCC-1, whatever it’s being called.

[@turkigo7057]

Tbh bordzy theres still room for improvement but it is small, for example material wise asus rog harp ace extreme( it should be named built well, nothing extreme about it) good material choice, the skates should be improved material wise, something that lasts along time to develop the same muscle memory consistently with the same glide maybe treated ceramic or treated glass, the logitech sensor is probably the best in useability, the clicks cant be announced to be solved unless they reach the op1 8k speed around 0.00something, the mousepad treated glass semi friction still needs improvement and speed is solved two versions should be looked into and improved and built well, the cloth is kinda solved tbh artisan like raidens mid, then u can say mouses and mousepads are finally solved. Cool stuff nonetheless things are way better than before, thanks to anyone and everyone who contributed to this category, good stuff are always good to see. ❤️

[@lanceespenilla4129]

i want a shape like the razer basilisk v3 but not 100g i want a lightweight mouse but with that shape

[@Anonymous-g7f3m]

The MM720 beats all of these crampy ass unnatural Hand Grip "End Game" Mice. Yall don't even realize what you've been doing to your Hand until you use a 720. 😂

[@Aydi28]

Hey boardzy this is KZbin (Truly shocking😱😱😱😨)

[@logan2872]

The viper v3 pro isn’t a MASSIVE leap? You know what is MASSIVE?

[@erisium6988]

what was so massive? Normal coating nothing so amazing to be writing poems, horrible switch feel, sensor working like every other mouse, shape is literally just even more safe gpw. Its literally the smallest improvent or even step back there was in wireless mice generations. What viper v3 brought that v2 didnt have? Nothing just boring shape and better coating that still isnt amazing and is different on white and black - joke of a mouse.

[@guybrushtwood]

Ignoring Optimum’s Xero mouse is absurd

[@tt_fit]

Should I buy pulsar crazy light or mchose l7 ultra?

[@Zufftino]

wheres high tech mz1 wirelees boarzy and also lightweight ???

[@boardzy]

Good point

[@rsleepless]

Once again i am shocked

[@Skibiditoilet123-j2n]

Truly shocking

[@kawokirNo]

brother, please add a Russian audio track❤

[@gowagowa6203]

Yeah!!!🎉

[@Lekser]

No

[@trihard42069]

All shapes and sizes with good implementation across multiple brands. "WE NEED EXPERIMENTAL SHAPES AND SIZES COME ON MAN IT'S GETTING STALE!" It's like you people just have a money wasting problem lmao

[@ennn6582]

And here i am still waiting for a lightweight mouse with more than 5 buttons so i can play my mmo's. and i dont like the steelseries one.....

[@JamesMKE]

It's almost like all these mouses and their parts come from the same few factories.....

[@ManiacAdam]

Yeahhh, after 2 years of collecting mice, this hobby is dead to me, i got every type of mouse i need

[@theterriblepuddle1830]

Don't feel like a big light ergo mouse has been solved yet. I'd love a lighter DAV3 Pro

[@erisium6988]

what dav3 miss i a good click design and better switches would be cool too. Weight on ergo is cope, thats why people dont mind ec2 and np01 and E1 etc.

[@theterriblepuddle1830]

@@erisium6988 Yeah DAV3 Pro's clicks are way too heavy. I still want it lighter though.

[@eddie9704]

artisan x boardzy mousepad release?

[@gambit5636]

I am shocked 😦

[@HiCZoK]

best new upcoming mouse? 8bitdo retro r8 mouse bro

[@jacobs687]

ur wrong pulsar is gonna COOK this year

[@petermadach]

hot take: most people dont need more than a 3370 and 1k polling

[@joshdeconcentrated2674]

get a 3d printer and pull an optimum tech, make your own mouse

[@sdggz3722]

boardzy fell of only 4 views

[@FloyydL]

Yt comments is a form of virtual cancer

[@strvy]

I'm just waiting for my finalmouse upx tarik small lol

[@hotcherrysoda5981]

hello boardzy

[@gabitoiverson5860]

still waiting for the day that some chinese ass za13 comes out

[@-GRXNDSCOPER-]

NO. REGARDS

[@Ebrahim766]

No , shape need works

[@Khinh-xq6lx]

the clones are better these days

[@Aydi28]

First time commenting kinda nervous 😓 😟 😰 😳

[@boardzy]

You have commented on my channel 6 times according to the records

[@Aydi28]

@boardzy damn unc got me 😓💔

[@joeisfat]

next gen wireless latency will be 0ms

[@erisium6988]

wired isnt 0ms let alone wireless

[@joeisfat]

@ r/whoosh

[@civerone9795]

How i got the most liked comment (shocking)

[@CapnCode]

First

[@Ric_q]

Shocking

[@jeffry3522]

I blame everything on consumerism , buying a sick looking mouse or couple for fun and enjoyment is fine but most people think that a specific mouse will change their play style to a point where they become good overnight thinking that the mouse was holding them back , why would companies change when there a sheep that just buy every reskin of the same mouse 🥱

[@erisium6988]

shapes do change a "playstyle" it forces a grip that forces more wrist/hand movement that force different sens and playstyle. But no it wont make you better player decision wise or it wont make you hit every shot.

[@kristijanzolota2684]

u are right dude