Have Trouble Getting a Solid Anchor Point? | Common fixes to struggling recurve from series

[@huyvlam]

I have been having issue with string alignment for the last 18 months and cannot figure out where the problem is. It turned out having a solid anchor point, as you pointed out, makes the problem go away. Tried out your tip in practice today, and what a difference does it make. Jake, I appreciate it, man.

[@adrish8743]

Hi Mr. Kaminski, your videos have really being helping me a lot since the anchor point has been a really big problem for me. Your videos are always helpful to me since you go into the biomechanics of the shooting process. I am really grateful to you. Thank You Once Again Mr. Kaminski.

[@MasiMoreno]

Thanks for entertaining us in these difficult times ... Good archer and a better person

[@luverneanimatics8769]

Why I got the feeling you are reading the question in our mind! Thank you so much!

[@himadri17]

Are you God sent, seems to me you are. Thanks for all the videos. This is not only from me but from my son too. He is 12 years old and I coach him following your tutorials. Thanks for the initiative you have taken. Regards.

[@jamesjgill]

I can't believe I am learning so much for free. Although my time as an olympic style recurve shooter has passed, I am going to apply this to compound archery.

[@jeongheejin15]

Thank you for your useful information every time. I am a Korean archery player. I learn from you, too.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Thanks for watching, let me know if there is anything you'd like to see. BTW, If you haven't subscribed I would really appreciate it if you did, you will be alerted right away when videos drop. Thanks again.

[@HowTheMikeyHasFall]

My god this is my problem!!! Been struggling with this since I changed my stance. Great video!

[@tomascastelazo6012]

Many thanks for all your videos. Greetings from Mexico!

[@CowayneComarcho]

Thanks for the information Jake.

[@valentineyau1746]

Thanks Jake. These videos you do are gold and I always look forward to the next one. My anchor is a weak point of my technique and I’ll be taking on board your advice.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Great! glad they are helping. If you haven't subscribed I would really appreciate it if you did, you will be alerted right away when videos drop. THX again for all your support.

[@cowaynecomarcho3883]

I enjoy and I have learnt alot Sir. Your videos are very informative and in dept. Thank you Sir

[@71Dana]

Thank you for your awesome archery series. When the Aussie dollar is worth something again, I intend to support the channel by getting a sweet Barebow hoodie.

[@MrB3J0]

Thank you Jake for this very informative video. I have difficulty to get solid anchor point as you explained in this video. I will try your tips to improve my olympic style form.

[@franciscambron]

Excellent instructions

[@hughcoleman3866]

I’m my practice session yesterday (third after starting up again post Covid), there were lots of things going wrong. First, my bow shoulder was collapsing…. Then, my anchor went all to cr@p. I could feel that it was different every shot. I couldn’t “feel” it properly. My tab was interfering, my hook was doing god knows what… So when this video came up in my feed, I just had to watch. Head position…. That might be the key to my problem.

[@MiltiadisRigopoulos]

greetings from Greece! thank you!

[@alexandersalomatin8650]

Shooting a bow is to find the best balance between the constant of perfect mechanics of a bow and variable of archer's body physics. I anchor on the right side of the chin - for me its more natural and comfortable and easier to hold at a full draw. But old school teachers told me to anchor with the string in the middle of the chin for it is more solid , confident and repeatable. Maybe they have a point. Good video!

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Side anchor is best IMHO as well, not too far to the side to have chin drag though.

[@guilhermevieira4353]

Hi Jake. Thanks for the great content you are putting out for us. I've been following the channel ever sice you did that live tunning of your w&w bow 2 years ago or something. I've been shooting for the past 6 or 7 years with a high anchor. I shoot bhr, barebow and go intuitive with my longbow and horsebow (thumb realese and arrow on the right side). I'm currently trying to learn the olympic style of shooting, but having problems with that lower jaw anchor. I can't get the bone to bone contact you talk about. I always end up with the tab's metal plate digging in my jaw bone. Should i try a smaller size fingertab or is this a movement issue? Hope you and yours continue safe, greetings from Portugal. And keep up the excellent work!

[@amrazing33]

Hi, Jake. Great insight as always! I started to watch the video expecting my problem is one of the most common one that you would discuss in the video, but I was wrong. And it'd be great if you could comment on it. So, my problem with anchoring is that I can't seem to do it properly with the bow in hand. I tried doing it bare-handed, it's all good. The scapula position, the bone-to-bone connection, everything you mentioned in this video and the anchor video on the form series. I did it with a stretching band, still the same. Great. But when I pick up the bow and try to do it with the bow, I always feel like the string prevents my hand to "get in there", you know? And it doesn't matter where I put it. I tried to put the string at the tip of my jaw and pull it backward from there, didn't work. I tried putting it a little to the side and tuck in under the jaw from there, still didn't work. Hopefully I can get an advice from here to help me with this. Thank you, Jake (and anyone who might have the answer).

[@raymondbohn2852]

Thanks, I have a damaged neck and cannot turn to a full 90 degrees. Can't wait to try different head tilts. I always felt that tilting the head was not recommended.Guess I was mis-informed. Good news for me. Thanks again from an old dude who keeps trying.

[@Twm532]

proper shoulder/arm alignment is what matters. the head position can move to accommodate that

[@raymondbohn428]

@@Twm532 Thanks

[@Scuba11Steve]

I've been struggling to get a tight anchor with bone to bone contact. I've tried turning my head more (even closing my stance so I had to look further to see the target), but I just can't get my metacarpal to get under my jaw with the bow in my hands. I went to my copy of Total Archery to try and get clarification and ran into a new wrinkle, it says the string should be on the front of my jaw, not the side. When I draw to the front of my jaw (even crushing the string to my face as hard as I can), I can't get the string to my nose and I still can't get my hand into the right position. I made it my nights goal to try and get an anchor where I felt like I was choking or gagging, but just couldn't manage it. Any advice would be great. Thanks for the awesome videos.

[@cgd1037]

Jake, I find you videos very helpful and often revisit them as i experience more. Like many new archers I am struggling with my anchor. I believe that part of the issue is that we are taught to anchor on a fixed position. In my case the jaw anchor meant that I was not at full draw, therefore did not have consistent power and a wrist that was cocked to compensate for the my elbow sticking out. I am wondering whether the focus should be on getting to full draw, relaxed wrist and leading with the elbow, then applying those back muscles and then finding the anchor points that match that draw. (KZbin has numerous videos saying this is the "correct anchor"!) We are all anatomically different and in my case long-arms and good shoulder rotation means that my full draw anchor point is by my ear. I am interested in hearing your view.

[@queef3057]

Your draw is set by your anchor point, not the other way around. You don't try and anchor to a draw length, you anchor where you should, then adjust your clicker to suit. Once your found the spot where the clicker is correct (clicking during the final release phase, not during aim), you can measure your draw length accurately. Really if you are experimenting with your anchor as a new or learning archer, you can just not use the clicker - reason for that is it removes your expectation of where the numbers say you should be, and focus on where you actually should be: string on the nose & corner of mouth while the knuckles touching the underside of the jaw. Just make sure your not leaning your head into or way from the string to make contact with the nose & mouth. Leaning forward usually happens when the limbs are too heavy and the archer is struggling to draw in the last few inches (seen it a lot with beginners). Leaning back usually happens when the archer is obsessed with extending their draw length (it just screws your form though trying to force it). Where you may struggle is the finger/jaw contact. My face is tall and thin, with an angular jaw going to a thin, rounded chin. Skinny hands. Very solid jaw line, but i can only get contact on my lower knuckle, not my centre. I presume its my chin being round and thin. Well i can make it happen with head angle and tilt, just if i do, its both painful and messes up other parts of my form (i end up whacking my nipple with the string as something else in my form shifts). Easy solution for now, i just line my shelf up to act like a wider centre knuckle. You should be able to find a way to make it work for you basically. There are people who rely entirely on the shelf contact and no bone contact, but its a case of having no choice in the matter for those people. Most people will fit the typical format without much issue getting the full bone contact and they are better off than people in my position.. Though you may find niggly bits to work on, its pretty much a pre defined position on the jaw, ultimately its exact position being set by the string angle and either bone to bone contact or shelf position. I find it helps sorting my anchor when others take pics of me so i can look at what im doing from a 3rd person view, or using mirrors/windows to glance what im doing from the corner of my eye. That and really paying attention to the contact, feel, and what my body is telling me. I used to have a low of back lean on my head (i was chasing draw length...). I also recommend sticking to jakes guides for recurve. Reason being there are a lot of anchor types for specific use cases such as compound, sightless recurve, horsebow - some sound similar by description and often article authors don't explicitly state what style they are shooting. Jakes specific in what he teaches, NTS sighted recurve. KZbin generally gives the impression an anchor is something you can just pick and choose, and for some archery types that's correct, but not for sighted recurve.

[@mindfullbadger]

Can't tell you enough how much these videos and helpful! Curious, about the anchor in Olympic style. How much should the fingers be allowed to bend back from the back of the hand? Couch lee shows the fingers pretty bent back, at an angle away from the face, at hook in "Inside the Archer". However does not mention this at anchor and no one exampling good form seems to allow them to bend back more than a tiny bit. What are the advantages and disadvantages of keeping that bend in the fingers at anchor?

[@osmansalem]

Hi Jake. Thanks for all the support, I want to ask after anchoring am loosing power through the tip of the arrow can be figured from the clicker, what's your advice.

[@juanaq]

thanks for the videos, i'm gettin a lot of info from them, and a lot of flak from my instructor from questioning some of his teachings, jajajaja! he's a great guy, but for him not deep hooking is a sacrilege. i'm a barebow shooter, is there a way to export this bone-to-bone anchoring to a three under, over the jaw position? can't find a video about that in your series.

[@williambilse]

Man I am riding the struggle bus. I wish I had a recurve coach nearby.

[@5635randy]

I have fought anchor my whole life I have been shooting recurve for 45 years and compound for 40 always battle the anchor going back and forth.

[@cowaynecomarcho3883]

Archers in The Bahamas are learning alot from your teaching. I have a beiter clicker, Could you explain how the beiter clicker and the beiter clicker extend works as it relates to the horizontal extension bar?

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

Sure thing I can do that.

[@Sangey_archery]

Jake, this video helps a lot with anchor. But, still our question of where to exactly put our fingers on the chin bones is not crystal clear. Can you please help us out. 🙂🙏

[@cowaynecomarcho3883]

Could you make a video on Recurve bow clickers, and the clicker extender and How to use it?

[@叶宣和]

Hi Jake, thank you so much for making this video , it is really of great help. Would you allow me to add translated subtitle and repost some of your video on a chinese video platform Bilibili cuz in China KZbin is banned, just to help more archers.

[@MikeM91320]

Is this anchor just for those shooting Olympic shooting, or those using a site? I am just getting back into archery and was never more than a beginner. The coach I took a group lesson with a few weeks ago and a number of years ago stress having an anchor around the mouth or nose. Thank you.

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

I think having a solid anchor is important no matter the type of archery. I plan on doing a video addressing barebow anchors in the future.

[@UweWong]

Jake everything you put out has been working for me except for tight anchor with tension and direction, maybe I am doing it wrong... So as I expand using my spinal cord as pivot point, should string tension on my face increase as I expand?? Cause the constant increase of tension on my face is pushing the string away from my face on release (is it even possible?) which drifts arrows all left even if i push towards the spider. Dont know if you know what I mean but this tight anchor has created a lot of horizontal tension (parallel to shooting line). Is this normal? Do we want this? What I normal do is keep string tension on my face the same throughout expansion and then your tension and direction towards spider.

[@cristianrojas4969]

I have some difficult to make the bone-to bone anchor. I suspect that this is due to that little metal to rest the thumb that my finger tab has. Is this possible? Anyway, I "feel" the metal of the tab in my chin, so this also could be a problem

[@mahendra4352]

Try to remove the thumb rest. I removed mine.

[@dolkerstanzin2229]

Hello sir, thank you for your wonderful videos its help me to learn so many things.... Oky... But is it also depending on the structure of Archer face? Some Archers have round face they can touch the jawbone easily during anchor but some have v shape face structure they have less jawbone its bit difficult to do a proper anchor and also its depends on nose length... :-|

[@JakeKaminskiArchery]

OF course, all that affects how to get a strong solid anchor.

[@greenhoodedvigilante458]

About string alignment---- Where should the string be when I anchor? ( I mean what's normal) on the left of my sight line or right of my sight line? 'Cause when I try to anchor, either it's in front of my sightline or to the left. (RH archer)

[@wjyang77]

Should be more to the right aligned to your riser.

[@BlasterKotakatik]

Unfortunately I don't have the ability to rotate my head THAT much towards the target. I wish I could but I just don't have the flexibility. Do you have any recommended way to increase head rotation?

[@mocknugget]

Luqman JW I guess the poundage of the bow which I think is heavy for you is what causing “can’t move the head too much”

[@utapersonlig620]

One thing I've seen make it easier for people to turn the head, is when they understand where the joint between head and spine is. Lots of people believe it to be at the back of their necks. It is not. The joint is between their ears. In the middle. Have a look at an anatomical chart, and think about turning the head at the joint. See if that helps.

[@seanembrey8456]

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[@eltitu]

If I use a tab with a shelf, must the thumb be over the shelf or under it? Thanks in advance

[@wjyang77]

Thumb should be below the shelf.

[@eltitu]

@@wjyang77 Thank you!!

[@mocknugget]

David Rodríguez it depends but both can work

[@eltitu]

@@mocknugget Thanks!!

[@evilryu29]

I have problem when I I shoot is when I anchor and i release I sometimes hit my lip with the string

[@antreaschristodoulides1954]

show us your olympic/archry tattoo

[@jareth7456]

I strongly disagree about what you are calling an anchor or how to achieve it . I define anchor as a place to pause while at full draw and this corner of the mouth thing is not full draw. To reach anchor and full draw one must roll the arm all the way back until the elbow can go no further backwards this will place the hand either right at or just behind the ear The arms will be perfectly lined up parallel and straight . This is the correct way it allows you to have the head looking straight forward with both eyes equally on the target making you far more accurate and comfortable..especially if you're one of those who don't know any better and hold the draw...it's far easier to hold the draw from this point as now your body position puts leverage in your favor. I personally don't believe in holding nor aiming.....do you aim when throwing a rock ??? No you look at the target with both eyes and throw ...you do not look at the rock to aim similarly you do not look at the arrow. You simply look draw release and over time the arrow will automatically hit where the eyes are focused. This is the right way....the old way

[@bruneiprs4854]

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[@jas2819]

Okay, so, 3:15 before you start to tell s what we want to know. Not really good enough. 🙁

[@willc3384]

3min into an 8 min vid b4 any useful info