Have We Been Tricked in the Star Wars: Andor Series?

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@Drew2You
@Drew2You 2 ай бұрын
This is a fascinating theory. I always felt that watching the show, Mothma and Perin's relationship has that cold, prearranged marriage feel, where Mon Mothma has no real say or control over what her husband does and there's nothing she can do about it. If we hadn't known a single thing about Mon Mothma's character traits before I could have easily blown over that and missed it entirely. Instead, we know her to be a strong woman behind the scenes and at the forefront of the Senate and so instead that marital dynamic felt...off to me. Mon Mothma never struck me as the kind of person who would just "put up" with a husband who gambled away all her money and heavily supported the Empire like was shown to us in S1 so this theory (so glad to be getting back into theories rather than hearing complaints :P) would be a solid explanation of what is really going on. Love it!
@MBSill
@MBSill 2 ай бұрын
Well, looks like I'm gonna have to watch Andor AGAIN! You keep me interested in all the subtle things I missed. I love it! The politics of Star Wars is so interesting. Also, I hope all goes well w/your "procedure". Stay strong & May the Force be with you!
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! And I’m glad I can help.
@thedispatcher01
@thedispatcher01 2 ай бұрын
Wow. Cheers, my friend. Honoured. Keep up the great work. As always, I salute the provocative exchange of ideas and thank you for the lively session.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
And thank you for the idea. It really got me thinking.
@MolotDET
@MolotDET 2 ай бұрын
Hope you bounce back quickly. Alternately to your theory, Perrin is smart and immediately realizes he has been outplayed. While he knows he is innocent of Mon's accusations, he will also know the money is missing and has no idea where it went. Refuting her would lead to an investigation as to where. He knows Mon well enough to realize that if she is using this tactic to cover what she did with it, whatever the investigation would likely uncover deeds in which he would be implicated. He would then have to prove he was not involved. He has has no other out. He is trapped and can either say nothing and continue on as he has been or refute her, jeopardizing his cushy life.
@steveabel7066
@steveabel7066 2 ай бұрын
This was a fun watch, and I think your working theory/question is an interesting one for sure. I absolutely love Andor: it's such an intelligently written and produced show... in my opinion, the best Star Wars has been since the Original Trilogy (though I haven't seen all of the different shows, so there's that), and I can certainly imagine the writers working in a twist such as this. Thanks for the video(s)!
@ianhenry1031
@ianhenry1031 Ай бұрын
Hi Gerald, another awesome video on Andor, i hope the op went well and now you are back i guess it did and i am glad, this video is very interesting and informative on Perrin and Mon Mothma, i did not see yhis coming thank you Star Wars Fanatic The Outer Rim
@salsal435
@salsal435 2 ай бұрын
We'll be here waiting for your recovery. Thanks Gerald!!
@DarthTecolote
@DarthTecolote 2 ай бұрын
That’s an interesting theory. Correct me if I’m wrong, I recall that he served the military. I’m assuming Perrin served during the Clone Wars either for the Republic or Chandrilan planetary defense forces. We just don’t know in what capacity he served in he could have been an officer at cushy desk or on front lines or an intelligence officer. He did attend an academy and due to his social status he probably attended a prestigious academy something akin to West Point. I like the your theory. I read that Gilroy said Fertha was one of his most interesting characters. We’ll soon find out. Thanks for sharing. Hope you have a speedy recovery.
@daniellebcooper7160
@daniellebcooper7160 2 ай бұрын
i think it is as it is. He didnt know about his in-law. As he asked her if she had found a husband yet. You could say that they want to keep each cell seperate in case of capture, but i think the writters have just gone for seeable drama. Its well worth bringing up though. a well detailed video.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
It most likely is the way it seems. I just enjoy doing this from time to time. It’s just fun to think about. Thank you
@troymathis9930
@troymathis9930 2 ай бұрын
I really like this theory. I will have to rewatch while looking to this theory. If it's correct what about their daughter? She seems intelligent. Is she the spoiled brat? Or does she know and want to take a more active roll like her Aunt? Is she upset because she's being denied the chance to be an active agent? Or that her parents are pushing her towards a marriage that will help fund the Rebellion? Or does she buy the Empire line and want to reach through Imperial Academy? If Perrin is duplicit in the subterfuge, does their daughter know? Or has she been kept in the dark?
@erikabutler6893
@erikabutler6893 Ай бұрын
You know looking at the first convo of Mon and Perrin we see, if you pay attention to the voice volume changes around when Mon says, “Well played, Perrin,” there might be something there. You might me right.
@MBSill
@MBSill 2 ай бұрын
The Outer Rim logo on your channel's home page look great! I can't wait for the switch!
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I really wanted to make the switch slowly so everyone knows about it but I’m about ready to pull the trigger
@MBSill
@MBSill 2 ай бұрын
@@STARWARS_FANATIC it's gonna be awesome! You did a great job on the logos too! I wanted 2 vote for ALL of them! You got a great channel jere Gerald. Woke drama & BS free insights on Star Wars is what we need more of. When The Acolyte dropped, I quit watching several of the Star Wars channels because the drama is all they covered. On your channel, I love that you bring attention to all the subtle details. This is what sets you apart. There's so much more to these shows than just action & special-effects & you cover every aspect of it. I really appreciate your work & dedication. KZbin needs more quality Star Wars creators like you! 🎇 (that IS the Death Star blowing up emoji... isn't it?) 😆
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
Wow! That’s a huge compliment! Thank you so much. There are still a few good Star Wars channels out there, with generation tech being my favorite.
@dainperrault585
@dainperrault585 2 ай бұрын
I love that this theory could even make since, due to the writing of the show from Tony, but I think the character is meant to be exactly what he is, selfish mostly concerned about his circles to show the lack of care for others once your on the empires side of “right”
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
I love that you're deep diving the series but i think in this case you're overthinking it and reinterprating the way the scenes are lit and scored to fit that theory. The first argument in the apartment we see with Perrin isn't in front of anyone, the driver has already left, and even if they're being bugged then it just seems too contrived. I don't know what you were watching but the way Perrin responds to the accusations of gambling in the car was very animated and angry, she even tells him to calm down because of the driver. Also if she is trying to cover the money he'll be in trouble, so why would he want to get in trouble and not be able to get out of it without revealing the truth (if he was pretending). Their daughter wouldn't have been in on it and Mon selling her out too would be beyond their inferred duplicity. Why risk bringing in others like Tay into her secret life of Rebellion if this is an act? The daughter's coldness is genuine and i can't see her being in on it. The theory throws out all the great the family dynamic and tension as mere subdefuge. That's a completely ridiculous situation and not any more valid than what is actually happening, they are a family falling apart and she is feeling it slip from her grasp and everything she's doing for the Rebellion is making it harder for her to salvage it. Your theory makes a mockery of the idea she sacrificed her family for the Rebellion.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
My whole thought of the gambling is that gambling isn’t illegal. Canto Bite for instance. The Empire wouldn’t care about that sort of thing.
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
​@@STARWARS_FANATICit still seems too much of a ruse to bring that much attention to them. They could have done something far more noble like set up the "charitable fund" and funnel off that in the first place.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
I’m not disagreeing with you. It’s just fun to theorize sometimes. I don’t know of many people that get all their theories correct. I, myself have about a 50% success rate at best. But it’s still fun. Right or wrong.
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
@@STARWARS_FANATIC oh definitely, just keep in mind ALL the "chess pieces" if you're going to rearrange the game, so to speak 😉
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
@@STARWARS_FANATIC i don't know if you're familiar with the comic series that delved into "what if" scenarios for each of the original trilogy films. The series was called "Infinites". It changed ONE aspect of each film and how that one thing creates a domino effect on the whole original story. But in doing that change they had to factor everything it would have effected and whether some ongoing situations would never occur as a result. Worth a look, and it kind of makes you think of all the players in the story and what one change can do to them
@lmen255
@lmen255 2 ай бұрын
His gambling could allow him to mix with more shady people also. Plus he has military contacts. I see him going back to his military origins in the rebellion.
@ericblenner-hassett3945
@ericblenner-hassett3945 2 ай бұрын
It is a good theory. To add reasons for doing it, think how insulated he and their child would be with all the charades swimmingly to get under the Senators' skin. Even the matchmaking ceremony seeming to be against the Senators wishes. Any attempt at connecting with the Rebels would fall sorely to The Senator only, showing, possibly enhanced division and derision of the family as a whole.
@marcosargen3729
@marcosargen3729 2 ай бұрын
Interesting theories.
@robynhood1287
@robynhood1287 2 ай бұрын
I initially wondered this in watching your Mon Mothma video. I’d never considered it before. However, in rethinking it, I don’t think so. The show doesn’t really show anyone else hiding their rebellious collaboration. I don’t think Perin would be the one person they would do this with. I feel like we would have seen a side convo or something eluding to this.
@darwinskeeper421
@darwinskeeper421 2 ай бұрын
I really like the name "The Outer Rim". Great call.
@Lfcsweden-n5m
@Lfcsweden-n5m 2 ай бұрын
Don’t think it’s correct. He genuinely feels puzzled like he doesn’t know what she’s talking about when he’s accused of gambling. This is the perfect scapegoat for Motma. Uses he’s addiction against him, it’s cruel but it serves a higher purpose :/ Great scene btw, I love Andor so much and it’s such a good series and such good acting and casting ❤
@Stoner075C
@Stoner075C 2 ай бұрын
Get well soon Gerry, we'll be waitin' for yer vids. 1.- I like the theory, don't see it happening but like it, I more see Mon betraying/sacrificing Perrin (which is sadder and darker, but I don't really like it). 2.- Ridiculous coming from a forty-something, but something in me keeps kinda shipping Tay and Mon (since her marriage appears sort of sour), Can Tay be trusted though? Will Tay be sacrificed? 3.- I don't dislike any of these characters, if anything I dislike the Ganster, because he exudes shadiness, and the daughter's attitude and religious inclinations, but she's just a kid, cut her some slack!.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! I should recover quickly. May talk funny for a bit though.
@mhanzlik1229
@mhanzlik1229 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I don't think so. This is character building for Mon. It's not a Timothy Zahn novel.
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904 2 ай бұрын
@@mhanzlik1229 yes. As great as this theory sounds I don't think they realized the potential in him being a double agent. Anyway, who knows? Tony Gilroy has managed to surprise audiences in many ways!
@mhanzlik1229
@mhanzlik1229 2 ай бұрын
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904 this is an interesting theory but it would destroy all of the humanization of the sacrifices Mon has to make for the rebellion. It would be an interesting plot but not good storytelling.
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904
@korneliakecskemetinebakti2904 2 ай бұрын
​@@mhanzlik1229 yeah, you're right.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
I can agree with all of this. It would also take away a potentially emotional moment for Mon.
@WarriorGirl_113
@WarriorGirl_113 2 ай бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I thought they had a prearranged marriage, and she didn't want that for her daughter?!? Although, I do like everything you pointed out!!! Thanks =-)
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
They did have a prearranged marriage. He was into the old customs and she wasn’t very happy about it.
@arwinaBluKat
@arwinaBluKat 2 ай бұрын
I know this is a stretch but he kind of reminds me of talon karrde.
@taboovsknowledge1603
@taboovsknowledge1603 2 ай бұрын
Sounds about right!
@theartoframos
@theartoframos 2 ай бұрын
I'm convinced but I lm not sure if writers would have went THAT deep into the schemes
@bdarkstar9136
@bdarkstar9136 2 ай бұрын
good luck with the opp bro. try not to scare us all by staying to long in such places. all the best my friend this is the way 😎
@greatjob2023
@greatjob2023 2 ай бұрын
So, he's possibly the Schindler of Star Wars?
@stephenjefferies5101
@stephenjefferies5101 2 ай бұрын
I like your theory, but it seems amiss. Mon’s alliance with the Rebel alliance is very one dimensional, liaises only with Luthen, and Vel. She is quite isolated, which is the key to a successful alliance.
@tedadamgreen
@tedadamgreen 2 ай бұрын
Hope the procedure goes well! And it’s too late but maybe the name needed to be changed from Star Wars Fanatic to Star Wars Customer 🤣🤣
@TrueSighted
@TrueSighted 2 ай бұрын
oh no.. have you been visiting those conspiracy websites... "Again?" 🤔😏 Sometimes a bad marriage is just a bad Marriage dude. Besides, if he did play the fool, He'd be putting his life in direct risk, and the daughter.. they would have to lie to her nonstop, and that would be intentionally splitting her own family apart. Estranging her own daughter intentionally. A relationship were lead to believe is important to Mon Mothma. So.. Sorry.. but that theories reaching. Occam's razor Dude. Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best, most accurate one. But it makes a good fan theory. Cheers. And feel better soon.😉
@gooddog2001
@gooddog2001 2 ай бұрын
Well, that would be a surprise.
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
Right? I don’t it’s true but it’s fun to think about.
@charliedulin
@charliedulin 2 ай бұрын
I will take this opportunity to again point out that Luthen Rael is Garm Bel Iblis
@nehukybis
@nehukybis 2 ай бұрын
Let's assume for a moment Perrin *isn't* in on it. Assume he really is just a jerk. He's someone who was himself forced into marriage when he was a child, in a culture that frowns on divorce. He's not supportive of Mon Mothma, and he's something of a collaborator. At least in the casual sense that everyone is a collaborator, unless they're actively fighting the empire. And for that, I wouldn't shed any tears for him if something happened to him, but he's no worse than a trillion others, so far as we know. On the other hand, Mon Mothma is regularly putting her family in serious danger of death or worse, without their consent or even knowledge. Mon Mothma may be a hero of the rebellion, but she's a terrible wife and mother. If I knew them and all the facts, I would advise divorce. And if I was the judge, I would give Perrin sole custody of their daughter.
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
@@nehukybis that would be a realistic conclusion, even if Mon hated the court's decision and had the best intentions, she'd see the judge would had no choice in that divorce scenario, sadly
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
It makes us wonder what happened to her family after her exile.
@izzyworld8068
@izzyworld8068 2 ай бұрын
@@STARWARS_FANATIC i think that's coming next season. It jumps a year each arc so it's bound to be addressed
@davidwindell
@davidwindell 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I think a genuine, heartfelt, honest apology would do much more to save your channel than rebranding but that’s just my 2 cents
@STARWARS_FANATIC
@STARWARS_FANATIC 2 ай бұрын
I appreciate that
@scottlenjenkins410
@scottlenjenkins410 2 ай бұрын
I would say no if it was any other star wars project because the writing isn't that clever but with andor? I could buy it. But at the same time I dont think they were being that clever.
@ivarbrouwer197
@ivarbrouwer197 2 ай бұрын
Meh, Perrin is/seems a useful idiot, not a real threat, hence the lack of dramatic music.. I haven’t seen one indication that Mon cares for him in any capacity.Still an original scenario, well motivated.
@jasonprince8655
@jasonprince8655 2 ай бұрын
After hearing this, it is plausible. I feel that there would be more talk about finances if they were not working together. This is an interesting twist in the Andor story.
@bunkerfest
@bunkerfest 2 ай бұрын
❤🎉😊
@shawkorror
@shawkorror 2 ай бұрын
He's just a knobber, why the feck does everything have to be some rabbit-hole rubbish?
@0891Aria1
@0891Aria1 2 ай бұрын
I don't buy it
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