Have We Found the Perfect Project Boat? | Wildlings Sailing

[@Mechone11]

Go for the Beneteau ,can't beat the aft cabin for comfort, 1986 built tough unlike newer ones . Offer 1/2

[@CaptainRed72]

Hi guys. The cat looks like a Sailcraft 39' Cherokee catamaran set up as a Ketch. The Sailcraft Catamarans are older British catamarans, designed and built in the 1970s to1980s. They were built thickly to be tough, as the idea in those days was you couldn't have a thin, light weight fiberglass boat of that size. These cats are built like tanks, heavy for their size compared to modern designs. You won't be winning any races in that cat! The Sailcraft cats built in the late 70's were the better boats than the earlier ones as the company had learned from earlier mistakes over the years in fabrication and design. Founded by Reg White MBE, along with designer Rodney March and they first began building high performance sailing dinghies. A partnership was formed with designer Rod Macalpine-Downie and they designed a series of fiberglass cruising catamarans. The Apache, Comanche, Cherokee and Navaho cats. These cats are great for couples or singlehanded sailing, but the Ketch rig is a little more complicated and not as user friendly as a sloop rig, but once you know what to do, the Ketch rig has it's advantages over a sloop rig. As any seasoned sailor will tell you, it all comes down to personal preference. You can sail ANY boat, with ANY rig, ANY number of hulls, but you ENJOY sailing YOUR type of boat. Experience is needed of course, to know WHICH type is YOUR type. The Cherokee is known for problems with the hydraulic steering system. When it works it's fine, but when they fail.... you have NO steerage at all! Most have replaced to whole system including the engine with two engines in their place. An expensive fix, but if one engine fails you have a backup. It will motor fine on one out of two engines. The other option is setting up cable steering to replace the hydraulics. Probably the option you would need to go with. That cat also needs a bimini cover or hard top added. Long passages in the sun or bad weather will not be pleasant without one. The up side is that those cats have more room in them than is apparent given their size and have great fulltime liveaboard qualities for a couple and you don't always have to stay in marinas. Staying at anchor in a cat is generally more comfortable than in a monohull given the same anchorage and conditions. Those Sailcraft cats have a great reputation among liveaboard couples. You also have the choice of ripping out whatever you don't want of the original interior and make it how YOU want. There are plenty of people on KZbin that have done just that and on a limited budget. I wanted to buy a 35' Cherokee 8 years ago in Rebak Marina, Langkawi, Malaysia. It was a deceased estate, but I was too late and an Australian couple bought it first. It would have been a BIG restoration job in an out of the way place to refurbish an old boat. I was up for the challenge but missed out on the deal. The late Canadian disgraced former Doctor who had owned it made sure the important parts were looked after. They were either in great condition or top quality and new, but the rest of the boat was a mess. The mast step needed replacing too due to rust. Almost all comments I have read here simply state stay away from a cat. Money pit. Doesn't sail well. Extra mooring fees. Twice the hulls, twice the cost. All fair comments, but if you think you're up for the time, cost and HARDSHIP... go for it... but ONLY after a survey. As everyone says, it WILL take MUCH longer than you think to restore and COST way more than you think. If you don't get a survey you are buying blind and an old cat like that WILL have hidden issues... just as ANY boat... Monohull or cat. Due to Covid-19 and it's affect on the world at the moment, you may just have the extra time you'll need to restore it forced upon you. I'm a sailor at heart, but could only find work on power boats as a Deckhand and then as a Coxswain on the Australian East and South coasts. It's hard to find fulltime paid positions on sailboats in Australia. I've owned a handful of boats, both cats and monohulls. In my opinion I would look into buying the Cherokee. Anything bigger is a bit harder for singlehanded or coupled sailing. It's WAY cheaper the the 35' cat I tried to buy and I'm very jealous of your opportunity of buying it. If I was able to be in that part of the world and had the time and funds, I would seriously look into it... but that's just ME :) In the end of course, it is YOUR choice and I'm sure you'll do what YOU both think best regardless of the opinions of the internet and masses of armchair wannabe sailors. EDIT: I mixed up the info about the steering issue in my first post... that was for a different make of cat... it should of only been about the hydraulic propulsion issue, not the steering... my bad :/ I hope this clears that up. Here is some other info I found when I was researching years ago on that Cherokee 35'. Very similar design to the 39' and they share some issues. The 35' has a different internal design layout to the 39'. Many of these boats (Salicraft) had twin hydraulic drives (propeller units) powered by a single engine in the cockpit. At the period these were built, it was a clever way to save weight and expense. However, the test of time has not been kind to the system, and one by one they are being replaced with either outboards or twin sail drivers. It has skeg-hung, transom-mounted rudders of incredible strength. The skegs go all the way through the hull to the top deck for support. This skeg-hung rudder set up protects the rudders from forward collisions. The early models of the Cherokee had a single, pivoting centreboard, hoisted from a shin-smashing winch in the cockpit. This arrangement proved a chronic headache and was replaced by low aspect ratio keels on most of the boats and all the later models. Beaching the Cherokee is not a drama with the low keels. There are a couple of problems endemic to all of the Sailcraft boats. The windows are chronic leakers, and if you leave them open, two things likely will happen. One, you'll crack your shins on the windows, and secondly, you may tear the windows off with the jib sheets. However, many of these boats have been retrofit with fixed acrylic ports. There is one problem that owners should be aware of relative to the double spreader rig. This rig has a pair of check stays running to the lower spreaders. The check stays are not meant to carry any load while sailing, just to limit the forward bend or dampen pumping. Overtightening these stays will literally tear the boat apart. Another thing to look for is corrosion in the forward crossbeam. The deck and cockpit layout is not particularly handy, nor are the sheeting arrangements and redesigning them, particularly for singlehanded use, is advised. Because of the stair-step arrangement of the deck, clambering around at sea is difficult as there are no handholds or balancing points. So adding handholds or grabrails would be a good idea. It has sufficient hull volume to carry an enormous load without destroying its performance. It sails better than you would expect a boat of this size to sail. The boat is solid fiberglass with a balsa-cored deck structure. Some boats have suffered from serious rot and needed extensive rebuilding. Get a good surveyor to go over it carefully. Also, not all of the bulkheads are fully tabbed into the structure, which was a weakness corrected in later models. I hope this helps :)

[@peter2uat]

this is the first and best reply in all the junk I have read so far - down to basics, explaining pro and contras. IMHO I would try to contact the designers and builders and ask for informations on how to repair this nice cat. It will be a real gem when you have it finished! Greetings from a landlocked woul-have-been sailor

[@hwood9783]

The builders went out of business years ago.

[@jbullock7445]

did they ever mention if they got a survey?

[@hwood9783]

@@jbullock7445 I don't believe they did.

[@Kameleonline]

Hi RedDagger, great post, you clearly know your cats! I have (well, my Dad has) a Sailcraft Apache (41ft / 1974) in fantastic condition - thinking about selling, if you are still looking for your perfect cruising cat, let me know. I can send you the links.

[@MrLebro11]

You’ve got me hooked. Thanks for taking us along on this adventure of a lifetime. Go for it!

[@arthurschuler8906]

I have a Catalac 8 catamaran. A cat is much more sea kindly. Much less seasickness. Very good for anchoring and drying out. No keels which break off.

[@lightend100]

I've been looking at them and the summer twins 25 (like the layout compared to the heavenly twins), my jealousy always intensifies when I see/read someone has a boat I would love. fair winds.

[@patrickgoff9514]

I sailed the smaller version of the catamaran, an Iroquois, from Florida to the Caribbean, did a bunch of fixing and island hopping. It sailed well, costs of repairs was not much different from a monohull. They generally sail faster. The wave motion is different, but many times it was smoother and not on such an angle all day. I sold it after some years for what I had paid for it. If I was anywhere close I would be bidding on it!

[@alexforget]

I also bought and Iroquoi in Florida and learned to sail in the Bahamas, wonderful boat for shallow water with 18" of draft! It’ was a bit too shaky for us on the hook and in passage but we are now looking at one Cherookee for our next adventure.

[@sail4life]

I heard you bought the cat. I have a fixer upper trimaran myself. Last week my wife said "Yes, that boat has given you so much already, in the way of opportunities for building and fixing things". I'd never thought of it that way in such succinct words before, but she's right. I love the opportunities I now have to fix the boat up and make her mine. Nothing like a load of blood, sweat and tears for deep bonding! I hope you both end up enjoying this enormous adventure and can look back with pride on what you created out of this goldmine of opportunities!

[@MagellanXX]

Cool video again. Have you maybe thought about making an episode about some of the budget boats for sale in the Yard, maybe including some details and possible asking prices? I guess a lot of people might be interested in some project boats from the video

[@johnhaywood6358]

Take your time and get what you want😊❤️

[@BreezyRider66]

Contest 32 without a shadow of a doubt amongst those - they're quality boats, the 32CS has an aft cabin and all under 10m, think Moody 33 but better (IMO). Good luck with your search...

[@damienchambolle2533]

Arabesque - fantastic boat. Some work to do but light displacement and twin rudders with lifting keel. I sailed her twice and she is really nice to live aboard. For me the main concerns are on reinforcing some parts of the deck + electricity.

[@GandalTheGrey]

Hello Damien! I understand this is a longshot but would you be able to provide some more info on the Arabesque? The model name perhaps? It truly is a wonderful boat.

[@damienchambolle2533]

@@GandalTheGrey Arabesque is a one off from JP Brouns. Sandwich Hull and deck. Twin rudder - centreboard. She was commissioned for a deceased friend of mines M Arbaret. I was interested in buying her as a (long) project but preferred to go for a simpler and smaller one. I honestly think she is a good deal if under 40k€. Refit should include all the wiring and even the deck beaming. I can share a lot of pictures if you send me your email.

[@damienchambolle2533]

@@GandalTheGrey And she sails pretty well from closed reach to downwind. Beating is not her thing.

[@regdrone353]

This is a GREAT channel guys, loving binge watching as im a new subscriber, beats Netflix, sending love, coffee and best wishes to you both.

[@keithcarpenter9938]

Hey we love our boat tours out here. Make sure to look at everything. Look at P.Atticus and all their tours. Capt. Q, and Learning the lines. L the L only have boat tours.

[@Zenlifeonline]

Hello guys- missed you in cap d'ail but bizarrely I am moving my boat to St Louis towards the end of April. It will then be there until July, so you are more than welcome to stay on it

[@patrickgilhooly8340]

Wonderful boat search. Keep at it. We all are with you.

[@ChasingLatitudes]

How is it that every youtube sailing channel just has no idea what they are getting into or what is involved with a refit ? This is the first time I've seen a video of yours so I know nothing about you but based on your comments in this video it tells me you know very very little , thats perfectly fine as everyone always continues to learn. You two I pray will slow down and learn some more before any purchase

[@patwhite640]

Best advice I can depart with is ALWAYS buy a big as you can afford. There's no point to buy a 32' boot to fix it end then realizing you need or want more room! Plus remember one only sails 10% to 15% of the time, the remaining times on anchor so then cats give more living space and space for guests, patrons and maybe a work space in on cabin? More resale value too! Best of luck.

[@Rascalafm17]

I was in Port St Louis today looking to stop by and say hello but couldn't find you! I saw your Woodstock caravan, the yellow cat with the painting on the side and the one with the cat dinghy underneath and a few others. Where in the boatyard were you? Hope the work is going well!

[@MaryFarny1]

🌟I am literally sooo excited to hear more & trust you both 200%,,,,,your journey is certainly keeping us on the edge of our seats🌈🌟👏🏻 So proud (as usual),,,,loads & loads of love ❤️ Momma❤️

[@harveyg845]

A lot of interesting choices, I can not wait to see what you come up with !

[@mopedinthemalverns6661]

Go for the Arabesque! It looks like something from Master and Commander. It's got a Captain's Cabin at the back with little windows for Heaven's sake! Having said that, I liked the catamarans and by the look of the other comments I might have been wrong. I do ride a moped so best ignore my sea-faring advice. Arabesque though.... lovely.

[@svcheekysoceanmiles8522]

Smart guys!...Big step for you...don't under estimate the cost of refurb. I'm so excited for you guys, you are such newbies, but you have so much to learn...and that's what its all about...Plan your refurb with a time frame around where you want to go and work hard and expect set-backs, so build in at least a month of time buffer..eg you find out late in the day that you need to replace Both rudder bearings...tradesmen do do not work to your schedule ....My last point is probably the most important. luvyastuff!

[@lenwhatever4187]

I know this is an older one but I find it interesting how different circumstances affect needs. Our family (4 of us all adult size) are buying a boat that is just under 30 feet long because it is palatial compared to the 22 foot boat we have been in for the past number of years. Of course we only spend weeks at a time not full time. Just not having to put the bed away so we have a table is wonderfull. ;)

[@michaelleahybunker2718]

Hi what was the 10,000 pound boat called I really like that one loads of room,the cat would be a nice project to do and sell on,to dear to keep,take care guys

[@SailHosailing]

Your next boat depends a lot on what you want to do. If you see yourselves staying in the Med and cruising there for the foreseeable, a cat could be a good choice (of course, the mooring fees are more, but from what you showed us they are still less than for a monohull in Falmouth). If you're looking for something to take you around the world, it might be worth continuing to search and finding an older, solid monohull. You probably already know them, but if you don't we'd really recommend the Sailing Kittiwake channel. They started with a cat, then bought a monohull to cross the Atlantic. They have a lot of very useful things to say when comparing these different types of boat. Whichever way you go, we wish you the best of luck and can't wait to see the next stage of your adventures.

[@dw4956]

My personal favorit is the schooner, what a beauty!

[@henryhansen3662]

I used to have a 16' catamaran. They fast but hard to handle and don't flip one. They are also two boats in one. That means maintaining two hulls.

[@gregbolitho9775]

I've seen the future, you got this 35ft and your already aboard, fixin 'er up. all these different nationality peopl helped you to fix the engine. an stayed for some really wilding, fried rice, looked good when I was hungry too. keep up the good work, you stay safe, vertical an well!

[@robertfliege1884]

Out of the boats shown I personally liked the Benneteau. Nice little step up from GT size and performance wise. And from the brief view we saw, not an overwhelming amount of work to get her back in the water. But you have time. Keep looking. You'll find what you're searching for.

[@matjam8305]

If the contest is in good condition would be first choice. The bene would be a consideration also. It is all about compromises. Spend more to get a better boat or go cheap and everything that entails. Keep in mind all future work. Any boat that requires a lot of work will be more work than you expect. Get a boat that is ready to sail. It will be enough work just to keep it running.

[@theadventuresofaskierandsa8527]

Hey my favourite Wildlings! How's things? I have my fingers crossed for you, that you will find the right boat soon :) I wouldn't entertain the idea of the catamaran personally, it could be costly... I'm rooting for you both!

[@ericlaurent6084]

Fascinating, lovely. One of your best videos. Maybe because this is an exciting moment of your lives, when so many things are possible, are to come. I wish you the best!

[@niideabo]

Steel boat are tuff, they take a more frequently manteinence but they are easy and chipper to repair. Look for the builder ( type of steel used), the designer and overall condition. Good luck!! Best wishes !

[@HandymanMark]

Great video thanks. Enjoy the boat hunting. I know you'll get your dream boat

[@norbertgilles2125]

Hello everybody i'm professional skipper for around 35 years with lots catamarans , crossing Atlantic ,charter,delivery...sailing fast and flat...stability...the king at the ancorage...shalow water...big life space ... good choice don't listening the people who sailing only 2 weeks at the year hahaha. I wish you a good and long voyage ...

[@lesdoidanlzen1691]

Kids, get a cat if you want one, they're awesome, just make sure the structure, rigging and engine are sound. Can't say by the video if this is the one (I kinda think not). You don't need too big if it's a cat. 32/36 feet would be plenty of boat for you and not much more marina or other expenses. Don't worry about interior work, it's fun if you got the love, and you guys have loads of it. Just take your time to choose. But I hope you get a cat. (outboard engines are less trouble in the long run) Find a 36ft/10m cat with a good base and you will have the best of both worlds. Love you guys.

[@gsbrady3]

The cat looks roomy, but needs a lot of work. I personally think the Arabesque is a very interesting schooner with even more room than the cat! And so much light coming in with all of those windows! It looks very warm and comfortable like a home. I vote to survey it closer, checking for seaworthiness, and negotiate a good price. But if you go for the cat, you'll still get my support and many others too. Best of luck on your search, and I can't wait until your boat FINDS YOU!

[@chaswarren7239]

Heavenly Twins are awesome boats, really sea kindly. Will look after you whatever the conditions. Safe & go anywhere. The LandRover of the sea. But that big cat looks awesome. Tidy the woodwork up, seal the windows, check the engine is sound & it will be great.

[@arthurme1911]

Wooowwww that’s niceee lots of rooming look good is a risk some times you just have to take a leap of faith and see where the wind takes you

[@danny1smith]

Ooohh aaahh wooww 😂 looking at potential new boats sure is exciting

[@phillip1115]

Is that boom fitting on the mast cracked or is it a stain of some kind? At 11:26. I do like that old Beneteau.

[@trailingarm63]

On ebay (UK) again, a Jeanneau Sunrise Drop Keel 34ft 7ins. Lying in Dover. Not moved for two or three years. Owner thinks the engine will be fine once serviced. Cosmetics need attention due to neglect, but boat is structurally sound and has pictures on the hard from three years ago. Bidding running for another 7 days, currently at £6,100. Looks like a project you could manage. Have a look!

[@Gieza-Brake-Pahl]

Wow I am amazed that you both seemed to understand everything that French guy said!

[@joecucch8261]

Looking at some of those neglected boats brings to mind to figure out the expense to bring it up to par and then multiply the amount by two. Except on the multi hull boats you multiply by three...

[@wyattfamily8997]

And double the time you expect either to take.

[@SailingMelody]

Contest all the way! The cat is appealing but will cripple you to moor. Contest is quality!

[@saxophool]

I know you already moved in. I just hope it has a fridge and that you don't remove the bathroom sink. Pulling for you, Nadiyana! 😎

[@MrBernie101]

Hi Mark & Nadiyana, interesting video peeps. Be careful not to buy an expensive set of problems, take your time, I haven't forgotten you are lodging, but please don't be too hasty. From the comments I have read here, it would seem that most are saying "BEWARE THE CAT" 🛑!!!!! and I agree . Just keep looking, for the boat in the best condition, with the least work to be done, and a price to suit your wallet. It isn't a sellers market either. Never forget, all of these boats pay RENT every month, this is a powerful bargaining chip. Of the boats you've shown us so far, the best was the Contessa IMHO. So good luck & good hunting. Kind Regards Barnacle Bern SY Cadbri

[@SteifWood]

I don't think the steel boat at 3:17 is the same as Roberta and Duka's Dinieper Tropic 1200 (Odd Life Craftings) but it looks very similar. And these guys are still on the hard after 1 yr renovation with more resources and good help at the yard and friends. whatever you chose, you must expect a good time refitting.

[@cynaracooper4769]

Good day friends! It is some place where I can see the boats for sale at the marina Saint Louis? Or can I have the contact of the person who is showing you the boats? Thank you very much!

[@christopherrayner3710]

If you are tempted to buy a catamaran of any kind, l would suggest that you arrange a sail on one or two, because in my HO. Its a totally different sailing experience. Some people love them and others don't, it's a very personal thing. I bought a Prout 37 Snow goose in Florida 20 yrs ago to sail the islands specifically with my wife in mind, she has always been a reluctant sailor, and whilst it was very spacious, and quite comfortable (apart from the slamming) I never liked sailing it. I can't really tell you why, but it lacked something for me, it just didn't give me the buzz that sailing always has. So try some first. You may love them, then again you may not. Happy Sailing.

[@theseakeeshaandi6853]

I dismissed loads of multihulls but once I found the one I'll never go back to monohulls. Unlikely to sink if you get holed, better speed, stability, less seasickness and free anchoring in shallow normally off limit areas to most boats to name a few! Just my preference, good luck guys whatever you choose.

[@Hindukushsailing]

I liked the full keel Sailboat with the rust stain on the bottom. That looks like a good Blue Water pocket cruiser. What make was it? My Euro boat crush is still the Contessa 32. Good luck

[@Hindukushsailing]

I forgot to tell you to maybe look at Atom Voyager channel. James Baldwin circumnavigated twice on his Pearson Triton named Atom. James restores older Classic Plastic Sailboats. If anything you can get some great ideas and he is very good at narrating his videos. ✌️✌️

[@Hindukushsailing]

I also wanted to tell you about a Sailboat restorer in the State of Maine. Lackeysailing.com he keeps a very meticulous blog with tons of pics on each build and even posts the customers bill time to each days labour on a project. Good source for inspiration and techniques you could maybe use. The guy James Baldwin his wife is Taiwanese and he has a couple of web sites Plastic Classic Forum is one where you can ask rebuild tech questions and he or others post replies. It's a good place to get info.

[@elizabethmichaud7238]

If you are planning on crossing an ocean, I'd recommand to stay in a monohull. Catamarans can be more spacious and comfortable, but in high seas and very unstable meteo, id rather be on a mono a 1000 times more than a catamaran. Good luck finding your boat! ✌

[@Bri-wi8kq]

We all love you Unc Benny! ...lentudals.... LoL

[@petersauer9496]

check out you outboard and pray iti s a Yamaha as lots of mechanics around the world can work on them but make sure the pump moves water through it to cool it off, don't forget to service it.

[@davedawson4830]

Just read the comments before mine. I found this chorus of nos instructive. Convinced me, but with me they're singing to the choir. I looked up the Contest 32 and it"s nice too.

[@davidsweetzer8683]

Could you give me the name of the boatyard?. Where in France?. Merci

[@ant5220]

Just came across your channel today just been watching it back to back very interesting

[@WildlingSailing]

Welcome and hope you enjoyed 😊

[@Morrisfactor]

The Beneteau Idylle designs were the highest quality boats Beneteau turned out (built in the mid 1980s). This 42 footer would be a great boat if it's been kept in good condition - built back when Beneteau made really good boats.

[@asennaydenov6461]

Hi guys it looks like you have got many boats around. Just don’t rush it and make calculations on that way you did it for the cat. If I had to make this choice buying a boat on a budget I will definitely look after a monohull 32-38ft from 1970 to 1990. I think is good idea to write on paper for each boat what needs to be done in order have a better overview before to take a decision. Anything can be fixed it’s just a matter of time and money. No matter what boat you choose I would suggest to sell the old engine and buy a new one like Beta marine diesel, Nanny, Sole (4-5t euro)... living aboard means that you are remaining on the engine a lot. Good luck!

[@sguillerm]

Very interesting vidéo on how you choose your boat

[@trailingarm63]

On ebay (UK) there is a Dufour Arpege 30ft yacht for sale for £9,250. It's in Conway Marina. Looks to have been extremely well-maintained. Kitchen not very big though!

[@robertalan4717]

Good luck on your boat hunting. I have never been on a cat in a big sea, but I imagine it isn't very comfortable. I prefer steel, but that's me because I am a welder and work with steel like a carpenter works with wood. Anyways good luck and hope to see you good people back on the water soon.

[@allsearpw3829]

Hi , those boats seem a bit costly down there , for the conditions . Have fun and stay safe .

[@darrenwatson1539]

5:25 Nice looking boat, but, thats just me. Im not going to say DONT buy a Cat but.... Now that Beneteau THATS nice from what I could see. Great video, thanks for taking us along in your search.

[@spider0804]

How does one go about getting the information on those abandoned catamarans? I am in search of a project cat.

[@brc-daveoakley479]

What boat yard did you get her in. I like a few of the ones you viewd.

[@petersauer9496]

If you do sail to Vancouver, BC you better get some Charts of the area as from the University of BC to False creek there is a sand bank that comes out quite a ways which means shallow water, good place to work on the Hull of your boat when tide goes out. But best read the tides real well. You can anchor right before you go into False Creek or contact authorities as to how long you can anchor on the inside and if okay there are quite a few places to motor in and tie up save your ass Boat.

[@briandale8386]

Hey here in America there’s a KZbin channel called captain Q yacht hunter. A old man that sold cals in the 60s. He’s a life full of knowledge. Check out the cal 40 1966 for 12 grand. It’s sold but if you watch his videos you will get a perspective on some boats. That cal 40 had your name all over it. Sv bohemian

[@trailingarm63]

Good film. Have you thought about buying a van and driving around Europe? Less risky (financially) than taking on a maritime money pit! Might have to keep the van in a boatyard till COVID barriers lift. I'm just a bit worried for you that all these project boats are going to take mega-bucks to make seaworthy.

[@Zenlifeonline]

Not the same though. My family advisede to do that, instead I bought a sailing boat last summer and like these guys had no experience. Love it!

[@jayetebari2645]

It's very good ideea , is like a hous , you fix it slowly and is like putting your money in bank,when is fix , is gonna be a expensive boat, but make sure you can fix it 👍👍🥂😷

[@doctorferris]

A Pentland with a modern engine, a fairly new mainsail ,with twin keels so that you can park her on a cheap mud mooring and sloop rigged which is easier to handle than a ketch rig. Plus a wheel instead of a tiller, how good can it get!!

[@gfimadcat]

Ketch > Sloop any day of the week for ease of handling. Smaller sails so less muscling stuff around needed, and a ketch is easier to get set up for heavier weather on account of being able to fly a smidge of mizzen with a storm jib to stabilize things. In my humble opinion, anyway.

[@doctorferris]

Have KZbin taken out the link to the BOATSHED Lancashire Pentland ? I did put it in a comment.. I prefer a sloop under 40 feet as the aft mast nearly always gets in the way of the cockpit or aft cabin in a 31' boat. A yawl would be better for a smaller boat, with a soft footed staysail rigged on a boomkin.

[@shankaraloucouture1207]

The cat look a LOT of work, the idylle is a good boat , like in alluric arctic youtube channel. I ll be staying in navy service next thuesday looking for a boat , would be nice to invite you for a tea if around and willing

[@timnz009]

The contest 32 is a super solid blue water boat... look at that one !

[@gfimadcat]

You did watch the video, right? They've bought the cat. Doubt they'll get a 2nd boat. Besides, the Contest 32 isn't for sale...

[@goldstar917]

Hi Mark can you tell me where is this place in France that man can an buy like ur cat

[@tinmanrobby]

I think you should get the Catamaran. (Just because all the other comments say not to and it's fun, LOL!).

[@chhindz]

The couple KZbin Channels that had them split apart at sea {not always fun)

[@MrBernie101]

Yer wouldn't say that if you were footing the bills !!! ⛵

[@tinmanrobby]

@@MrBernie101 But I'm not, lol. So it's good I spoke up. :-)

[@tinmanrobby]

@@chhindz Yep, ton's of videos of them coming apart and flipped over. Then again, there's ton's of videos of monohulls sinking and the Coast Guards saving them, and monohulls found at the bottom of the ocean. Until man adapts to the ocean with webbed feet and gills, we're just not designed to live out there, lol.

[@chhindz]

@@tinmanrobby fair enough both monohulls I've had almost sunk, but would you want to cross an ocean on that cat?

[@Allan_aka_RocKITEman]

Great video...👍👍

[@heimslach]

you probs figured heard by now that more people who have use for the word schooner pronounce it as skooner rather than shoe-ner

[@stivastiva9789]

Ben is a cool man!

[@aquious953]

I like the one beside the beneteau.

[@ralfhedstrom]

I have been sailing in the mistral....and its nothing to play with. But it's funny .)

[@belaexplore]

After a very long time, we decided on an aluminium hull design with a liftable keel. The reason was to sail in artic waters, being able to beach the boat and to take cover in rivers / mangrove if a tropical storm came our way. We were studying catamarans for 8 months but could not cope with the running costs and the fact it’s impossible to get one in aluminium for safe passages trough icy waters. PS: our budget is high. When we are finished exploring, we will most likely buy a catamaran and grow old in the comfortable sea-caravan that it is. We wish you the very best no matter what you chose - Happy Sailing :)

[@lzzrhx]

That Beneteau looks pretty good!

[@unicolc1]

Hi, can you identify the boatyard where you found/bought your catamaran? Thanks

[@WildlingSailing]

Port navy service. It's not a good mine of boat deals like it may seem though!

[@fifich6953]

Glad everyone agrees about the Catamaran..... 😂😂😂 May the choice be the right one, plenty of work to make a happy home. Good luck.🙌💪🍻🍻

[@johanneslidenberg2409]

So exciting, curious what you will end up with!

[@patrickwentz8413]

Come to the USA and buy a boat!!!! Buyers market and sooooooo many boats and summer is coming!!! Come on over!

[@bardarians]

Are they cheaper?

[@patrickwentz8413]

@@bardarians it’s a buyers market here. Look on Craigslist or Facebook. Great deals

[@ynech]

Nice video.

[@colinfirst1689]

good luck guys great vid

[@jesterjon]

The contest might be a really nice boat.

[@dawei1237]

Forget about the Cat, you'll be restricted as to where you can go and the costs plus refit will break you, it's not worth your time. Offer the guy with the Beneteau 5,000, you're probably the only ones he's had come to him with any interest, wait him out and I'm pretty sure he'll settle at around $8,000 and you close it at 6,000. You're looking in a graveyard, Dr. Frankenstein... Hahaha... They're all paying money to leave them there, it's not a seller's market, you have leverage in the fact that they're out of pocket every month if they leave their boats there on the hard, it's not free.

[@hthring]

worth a shot, mind you the bene could still have problems and looked rough on outside, i would be interested to see if its encapsulated or bolt keel

[@theoldsailmaker6408]

It is definetly a SELLERS Market now,what you said was probably true a year ago ,NOT now. You can may be talk the owner down some(to 15k?),but he would be an ideot to sell for 6k in this Market! Everything changed. But I also think you guys should not buy the cat- thats a Design from 70s that gave Cats a bad rep. Just my opinion 🤔☺🤔

[@saylaveenadmearedead]

@@hthring good boat for sure but way outside the budget they are working with.... watch Another Adventure restore her old Beneteau a few years ago....

[@jonathansimmonds5784]

@@theoldsailmaker6408 Bollocks! Not in the UK, cheapest time ever to buy a boat and I've been looking to buy since 1974. Abandoned boats running up a yard bill are the best, some owners will give you the boat to end the drain on their bank accounts.

[@theoldsailmaker6408]

@@jonathansimmonds5784 Anything thats Not a fixer upper is selling pretty quick right now,boats that need work(and money) different Story. I am in the Market for a boat right now and missed a few because I was not quick enough-but what ever .Guess all the brokers desperatly looking for Listings are just not informed enough?🤔😆

[@lensmith1870]

What yard is that and what state and city is it in like to come take a look

[@gfimadcat]

It's in France - Port-Saint-Louis-du-Rhone :)

[@okcantbelieveit294]

Marina berths would be the least of your worries with cats. They’re money pits. Whatever you do make sure you pay for a good surveyor .

[@markandrews6054]

Brexit special visa? Care to share some more info on that please Mark & Nadiyana?

[@svamour4574]

Good luck

[@daveamies5031]

Wow if you can get French residency for Na as well that will be awesome 👍🏼

[@edl617]

I decided that I am never going to do a project boat again. For three years on my last project boat the only time I sailed was with friends and in 2020 that was pretty scares. But I was able to borrow a sunfish for day sailing

[@robertbosman5398]

Congratulations guys fair winds

[@aevoguitars2576]

When you tap the Hull and it sounds like wood, it will make a g8 🎸

[@donnakawana]

Get the Beneteau luv's that's my opinion...!! Do what suits you best go with your gut .... Can't go wrong following you guy with ppl an situations!! ✌🏻💗😊❣️

[@JelmerAchterkamp]

Contest has the same good quality as a Hallberg Rassy

[@Zenlifeonline]

Yep- built to last.