“Have You Bought The Land?” | Dragons’ Den

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[@delanodegenie6970]

There are people on Death Row with more enthusiasm than these two...

[@Jason0binladen]

But none of them with those big mommy milkers

[@cyress117]

@@Jason0binladen thank you. I was thinking the same thing

[@richt3993]

@@cyress117 Came to the comments to see if anyone else noticed 😂

[@foreignwarren7361]

Lol

[@97itachiuchiha]

@@Jason0binladen After reading your comment I thought your name was Jason Milker

[@HaneeFannee]

They're fundamentally asking for investment in a business that they don't even own. Any type of camping revolves around the land - if you're renting the land then you're renting your business.

[@TrulyMadlyShallowly]

Tell that to many farmers! It depends on the terms and type of contract. But it's a risk for sure.

[@DrTune]

the comments section on #DragonsDen videos is like being a regular at a dive bar

[@cassia3363]

Better lunch menu though

[@MostafaElSakari]

Haha

[@nicholassimon1419]

“Who’s in this bar in (whatever year it is at the time)?????”

[@iiU2]

Peter Jones looks like he just woke up.

[@MrHampat]

He just finished his shift at Waitrose

[@hashirawan4000]

Folks in the Britain think that its only them watching watching this so they come and wish other people good afternoon and lunch break. Hey I live 7 seas apart from you guys and I watch it on my breakfast. So Good morning to my peeps and have a lovely breakfast.

[@deepsouthNZ]

I'm in New Zealand and I'm watching while having lunch

[@ScottOSaurus]

I’m just waking up! This is my first video of the day always lol.

[@alfisyahr]

Its night in Indonesia and Im having my night lunch thank you

[@deepsouthNZ]

@@alfisyahr night lunch, I love that

[@hashirawan4000]

@The SuperBike Tour Superb 😂

[@rohielshah1779]

Everyone doing their best thinking of business related questions the entire pitch

[@rohielshah1779]

@It doesn’t matter What your name is Casserole

[@CaptainMarmite]

What a jolly pair. Great advert for the company.

[@sadikmeah4057]

I thought she had a jolly pair too

[@Dantheman87]

😂​@@sadikmeah4057

[@Dantheman87]

​@sadikmeah4057 should of flashed her knackers

[@lululacanuck3824]

@@sadikmeah4057Maybe the park goers paid for them.

[@ScottOSaurus]

Kelly “no money in the bank,” Hoppen is shockingly out again. At least Jenny has actually invested. “You know I love this business and you, it’s making millions of dollars, it’s made in the UK and you have no debt but I’m out sadly.” -Kelly Hoppen on every pitch.

[@Guted77]

Agreed

[@hellegennes]

That's right. In fact Jenny, despite her reputation, has made offers more frequently than Kelly, Sarah Willingham, Doug Richard, Piers Linney, Hillary, even Duncan Bannatyne, with Sarah Willingham being by far the worst (I am discounting Simon Woodroffe, because he only appeared in 6 episodes -he made a single offer). Sarah, Kelly, Piers and Jenny all appeared in 2 seasons. Sarah made 7 offers whilst Piers and Kelly each made 9; Jenny made 15 offers. It's just that Jenny was by far the most negative towards the entrepreneurs, almost always coming with an attitude and ridiculous excuses to be out, that made her outs more memorable and memeable.

[@alexb4287]

@@hellegennes ive been spending so much time watching these clips, so thank you for such thorough analytics.

[@jarednil69]

Lol only invested 3 times on the show I think😄

[@TreesRgreen123]

Sarah Willingham and Doug Richard were worse than Jenny. They never invested in anybody either

[@thetessellater9163]

The beauty of 'glamping' is the isolation and rural nature of the experience. A bit different with fifty units!!! As Deborah alluded to, that is not glamping at all ! More like Centreparcs !!

[@monkeytennis8861]

Glamping is an utter scam

[@Japan_Malaysia]

what a magnificent pair

[@moogleking]

I see what you did there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@harryoates91]

😂😂😂😂

[@promitroy207]

Haha.. nice!!

[@georgethe100]

I bet she's an handful

[@DrivenByIndra]

😉😀😀😀

[@ultimanecat3091]

“JOLLY DAYS” are not the first words that come to mind when watching these two

[@Hakunapatakha123]

😂😂

[@harryoates91]

Motor boat??

[@davidmg1925]

THE GUYS LOOKS LIKE EHS GING TO BURST INTOT TEARS.

[@Technicallyimright]

BITTEY??

[@elizabethstephenson440]

Blimey..... that's just what I thought! They never smile at all. 😐

[@littleboots9800]

Pair enters den pitching their profitable business proposing an ambitious expansion. Everyone: "t i t s 👀" 🤣🤣

[@kirbyhatesincels917]

You mean the degenerates.

[@Ass_Burgers_Syndrome]

@@kirbyhatesincels917 Aww boohoo, did thomeone upthet you?

[@npc-bl2vw]

"I'm afraid you don't own the land, and therefore I'm not going to inbreas- INVEST!"

[@chrismcadam8413]

Duncan seems to be the only Dragon really that is encouraging and Peter just twist the knife with people

[@ibble1971]

Thought this would be perfect for Jenny as she’s always out!

[@jakubkrcma]

She could sponsor the expansion with milk sales.

[@BeastTheMadness]

Afternoon guys. How's lunch going?

[@Connieisland0]

It's great thanks, hot dogs and dragons den

[@oliverotoole4357]

Just had a fish chips and curry sauce, bloody stuffed now

[@KK-yk7ul]

I’m ok. My name’s Jenny, and as an FYI, I’m out

[@gunlampoon7788]

Everyone keeps talking about lunch, I'm over here brushing my teeth before bed

[@ScottOSaurus]

Not everyone lives in the UK who watches this…

[@nathanmorrison1830]

I’ve seen a brick wall with more character than these two put together.

[@perryplay3115]

They are nervous because the future of their business relies on that presentation, i think almost everybody will act like that

[@ChrJahnsen]

@@perryplay3115 Watch Dragon's Den much, do you?

[@johnmc3862]

Who cares as long as they are investable.

[@foreignwarren7361]

Him dressed like an undertaker and the happy vibes....thought these two were selling burial plots.

[@Hainero2001]

I get the impression that camping in 🇬🇧 is very different than in 🇺🇸.

[@peterclarke7240]

Yep. Every square inch is owned by someone. Makes stealth camping more fun though. We also don't have any wild animals bigger than a badger, so that's a plus, i suppose...

[@meltdownman8911]

Yup, a lack of bears.

[@Hainero2001]

@@meltdownman8911, Man, in Florida we've got bears, panthers, red wolves, wild boars, and if course we cannot forget the alligators.

[@kissbela4936]

I am sure Jenny is out glamping in this nice weather.

[@GodotOfficial]

I see two *big* reasons why I would have invested

[@getin3949]

Could just be two big bags of silicone Godot, does that turn you on? (O:

[@littleboots9800]

@@getin3949 nah, those are the real deal.

[@rossi6113]

Jesus wept, could these two be any more depressing? Perfect undertakers.

[@Sam-qh1sh]

Lols, just what I was thinking,

[@ArtificialFertilizer]

Not everyone needs to be bubbly and extroverted. They're just introverts and probably not good in talking publicly, it doesn't mean that they are be bad in business or loosers.

[@rossi6113]

@@ArtificialFertilizer Oh ok then. P.S. its "losers".

[@riomouris4767]

The way she said jolly camping 😂😂 seemed like she doesn't want to do itv

[@T4llyofficial]

Jesus swept

[@terryduckworth5105]

At the start I thought this was a new “Airbag” product.

[@willb3486]

I thought they might be starting a motorboating club

[@withgoddess1119]

😂

[@withgoddess1119]

​@@willb3486 Safety flotation devices?

[@Voicist]

"Our business is Jolly Days Luxury Camping." 😐😐

[@AllsortPassport]

🤣🤣🤣

[@oblivion8682]

1:57 Deborah giving them the *sus* look

[@ALEXMGFASHION]

You must own the land otherwise you are screwed

[@benwilcock2786]

Lots of people in the comments are agreeing with the dragons on this one, but I actually think it was a good investment. They are still trading today, in the last financial year they paid £45k in dividends (no info on profits). If they just continued their net profit from what it was in this video (£100k) for 10 years you would have a return on investment without any growth at all! On their website they appear to have expanded their operations at the current site rather than opening a new site like planned. This presumably brought growth with relatively little risk. Some people have mentioned the pandemic which proved right the whimsical comments but this video was from 2014 so they would have had 6 solid years before the pandemic, plus whatever years they have thereafter. Plus, the pandemic ruined plenty of businesses and was entirely unpredictable.

[@neonwired4978]

nobody in tourism has made any profit the last year, most have lost a lot and some have lost everything. The thing is that it was predictable.

[@benwilcock2786]

@@neonwired4978 how was it predictable?

[@peterpan4038]

@@neonwired4978 People that sell places "out there" or trailers have made a killing. Everybody and their mothers wanted to isolate themself far away from the cities. Even with regulation hampering this idea, the desire is there.

[@superflatjellyfish]

Assuming 25% shareholding for 200k, and getting a quarter of 45k for 5 years, and an exit value that's same as initial value at 200k ...then the return is around 5%. Not very good given the level of risk.

[@UncleHovis]

Based on the protruberance of knockerage, I'd give her the money now.

[@Gav3sixty]

Mind, they do sound jolly

[@donpepsi]

Not buying the land was a rookie move

[@andrewevansmusic3222]

"But what about glamourous camping... Glamping. These glamorous camping entrepreneurs.... glamptrepreneurs...."

[@x_dolly666_x]

Hahahahha

[@Gav3sixty]

I will invest the full amount in this comment

[@greyhoundghostgamer5651]

Why does the beginning music sounds like a naruto fight sequence track 🤣

[@1yearago491]

If you pause it right at the correct moment at 0:42, the man appears to gave horns

[@Paul--Nobody_Is_Out_To_Get_You]

Lol I was looking for the devil horns sign with his hands. As I made a video on that I'm over familiar with it but then I noticed the antlers.

[@jxcxbshnkz445]

Duncan is so respectful. So honest but polite. He was a Great dragon

[@mrsurprise2294]

He does both well when he chooses to be disrespectful he is very

[@ianoian1]

I'm planning a camping holiday but, I have to say, I'm far from impressed with my travel insurance. It turns out if someone steals my tent in the middle of the night, I'll no longer be covered!!😁😁😁!!

[@kevinmohan350]

That embarrassing

[@PeripheralPurity]

For the record I thought it was hilarious

[@marko3296]

I heard Jenny really likes the outdoors

[@Anna.T.]

I think Jenny would have really invested in this. She’s been out most of her life.

[@brederbeeld]

😂

[@padzevans3194]

actually very nice sentiment from the wife at the end. good luck to them

[@jarednil69]

They seem SO JOLLY!😄

[@redstar1223]

They sounded like they'd just had a row

[@ian_b]

If the landlord did take the land back, you either negotiate a sale of the amenities or wreck them. No need for a full clearance.

[@cookiekilbane5989]

Surely they would have made a profit before 15 years. Also can’t they include a clause where they give back the shares at the buying price after the 15 years no?

[@hytp-hi-top6123]

Hopefully my start up business will go well and then maybe I can bring it to the den in a few years

[@danieloconnor4760]

3 weeks a year for camping! In Australia we have less than 3 weeks we CANT camp

[@littleboots9800]

We have glorious summers here. It was on a Wednesday last year.

[@danieloconnor4760]

@@littleboots9800 haahh we are oposite, in North Queensland, our winter was a Monday last year

[@littleboots9800]

@@danieloconnor4760 I'll swap ya?😁 not tempted??

[@mickm6309]

Plus we get to camp with spiders, snakes, crocs, etc.

[@KumaBean]

That three weeks a year comment was complete and utter bollocks, lol 🍻

[@marks6663]

Camping in the British Isles? lol. Yeah, if you like a cuppa and some biscuits under an umbrella in the middle of a cow pasture.

[@dontstart8440]

Sounds beautiful to be honest ✌🏻

[@ooharhh1012]

Don’t threaten me with a good time 😂

[@itsbusyartist]

Building a whimsical business on someone elses turf and after 15 years it was all just a dream.

[@mrsurprise2294]

Glamping eh never heard that term before

[@peterd788]

So they want to build a wooden housing estate on land with a 15 year lease.

[@sage6336]

the woman has hidden a couple of travel pillows up her dress

[@davidmansfield9167]

JENNY: "I'll tell you where I am. I'm scraping jam off lift buttons in Congleton Primark."

[@dannyholmes5156]

Jenny would have liked this as she's always out

[@STEELCITYDRONEPILOT]

I think all I do on you tube is watch dragons den these days

[@antonclark3420]

The discussion could have included a proviso that the duo would need to have an extended or guaranteed extended lease after 15 years. Although worst case scenario would be losing the use of land after 15 years, they could have git a return on investment after 10. A bit if me thinks there was greed in there and myopic vision as to the possibilities.

[@Fredricful]

Hvordan gjør dere det i skogen i auropa der skogen er privat er det låv og campe bare i skogen i auropa?

[@charlie12102]

Those are very nice

[@buckethead133]

What? Their business?

[@rcl8793]

Glamping is a scourge. Ruining what you claim to appreciate because you can't bear to be remotely uncomfortable.

[@andrewsmith4388]

They don't seem very Jolly......

[@SimplyTheBex]

Hot bath, cup of tea, rain pouring outside, and Dragons Den 😍

[@alfunzsean5381]

Looool 🤣🤣

[@Cypher791]

Cold Lorry, can of coke, rain pouring outside, and dragons den. 🥤😌🚛

[@SimplyTheBex]

@@Cypher791 crank the heating up, trade the coke for a Pepsi and we're talking!

[@hansiesma16]

It's quite extraordinary to invest millions of borrowed money on someone else's land when there is such a small lease. They didn't look insane but they clearly are.

[@johnsweda2999]

No I don't believe so they still own the cabins new land could be found and the cabins erected and sold off and I can't see why they wouldn't renew the lease if they're getting a steady decent income from the land what they normally wouldn't get quite investable but you need to have more plots around the country

[@hansiesma16]

@@johnsweda2999 That takes no account for the unexpected. The landlords might, when the lease expires, have decided they would rather do without the income as the guests annoy them and are wrecking their land. A world pandemic might occur when no guests at all, can go to the cabins and all that borrowed money, and lease still have to be paid month on month. Borrowing to the hilt is a mugs game in the long run and relying on a 15 year lease infers they cannot find any other land that they like or can afford. A lot of rural land for sale cannot be lived or built upon in any capacity unless you are of the bovine variety.

[@jakecooper5855]

@@hansiesma16 I agree with the risk factors, but a lot of your logic is quite flawed. Borrowing is very effective if done right. All the richest people in the world only get there with leverage. The 15 year lease doesn't say anything about their ability to find other land. It's stability and standard practice and they should have gone for longer. There will be unexpected risks in every single venture, in every industry and business. Whilst they have to be planned for, anyone who uses that as an excuse not to try a business should not be in business.

[@hansiesma16]

@@jakecooper5855 Do you know if they managed to find someone to lend them £500,000 under those circumstances? My logic is not flawed. I am talking about this case specifically; not business borrowing for the entire world and its entire business population. And long term borrowing is a mugs game; most people have no exit plan for their debt, they unhappily live on it for their whole working lives.

[@urmadalabco6078]

@@johnsweda2999 landlords can be bastards, if they see a successfull business on their land, sometimes they can be opportunistic, once the lease is over they don’t let them renew and start their own business doing the same thing on the land.

[@ronaldjeremiahdeleon1730]

What year does this pitch happened?? Is it new 2021 or old series..

[@aartadventure]

Super old. Kelly hasn't been a Dragon in many years.

[@ronaldjeremiahdeleon1730]

@@aartadventure do they have a new episode?

[@kp2011kp]

This series was made around 2014. The 2021 series can be watched on BBC iPlayer

[@ronaldjeremiahdeleon1730]

@RavenclawAtHeart thank you guys, i got addicted on this show hahahah

[@sl11tenderhand]

If Peter Jones called my business whimsical I'd moonwalk over to him as if looking for a conciliatory handshake then switch at the last minute to a spiteful gonad grab

[@garypollard1821]

Did that pair meet on a specialist website for people without personalities?

[@johnallright6847]

Surely after 15 years you could have bought the land cheaper than leasing.

[@trevorbarre5616]

Did you not hear the reason why that wasn't an option? Posho land owners will hang on to land that has been in the family for generations.

[@johnallright6847]

@@trevorbarre5616 I Get that ,so you aquire other land instead that is for sale and there is plenty of it about.

[@ThemeParkUK]

@@johnallright6847 they said that the type of land they were trying to purchase (e.g traditional British woodland) wasn't readily available for purchase

[@revol113]

‘Jolly’…lmao 😂

[@matthewbell4273]

Jenny’s husband as they prepare to watch a Dragons’ Den clip together over lunch: “Shall we eat in or out, love?” Jenny: “OUT”

[@YuToobVideos]

I feel like camping is just mocking the homeless🤷😂

[@keenkamikaze9794]

Lmao

[@rohielshah1779]

And eating is mocking the starved?

[@YuToobVideos]

@@rohielshah1779 And breathing is mocking the dead! Your turn😉

[@asdasd-ni8eg]

I feel like camping is a result not the aim.

[@ACE-700]

Kelly “I’m afraid I’m out” Hoppen

[@AnalogueSolutions]

Deborah, constantly rolling bogies

[@amitprakash2868]

That chick has some valuable asset on her !

[@66Viscount]

Don’t wear a tie with a linen shirt in a business environment and certainly not with a button down collar. Other than that it was one of the most lacklustre ideas I have heard on the Den.

[@KumaBean]

'Don’t wear a tie with a linen shirt in a business environment and certainly not with a button down collar.' Can you please explain why? Serious question, I'm one of those who had to get myself up for school make my own lunches and taught myself to shave, no one ever told me this stuff, and I'm pushing forty now, lol 🤝 🍻

[@66Viscount]

Great if we were in the 1980s. So many better combinations now available (but obviously that is my personal opinion). I don’t expect universal agreement on the topic.

[@ThePrinceandPrincessofWails]

I live near Beverley and York. It's awesome

[@BallisticBurns]

It’s closer to us in Malton than Beverley 😂

[@hamza361]

So many Jenny comments but never seen Kelly make an offer.

[@royfr8136]

Jenny actually made the same amount of investments as two other dragons: Piers Linney and another dragon. Im not sure who I prefer, Jenny or Kelly..... Kelly isn't much of a charmer.

[@royfr8136]

@@MsMaryPatricia jenny looks like she might smell nicer

[@TreesRgreen123]

I thought Sarah Willingham was worse than Jenny

[@sunnymufc66]

Not everyone owns copious amounts of land

[@JamesFodor]

Am I the only one who is super confused about this pitch. The dragons are usually looking for a return in these investments in 3-5 years, so why on Earth do they care about what happens in 15 years? By that time the business is either going to have easily made its money back, or have long gone bust anyway. So why the big focus on the rental period?

[@umbreondark7837]

They are not just expecting a return but also a stable and growing profit for a long time. There no point of investing if youre just expecting a return

[@Nixter1974007]

I stopped watching this after 2 minutes. Decided to head out glamping instead 🤣🤣

[@davidmg1925]

Its not rocket science giuys if you wont own the land there is no point.

[@mrneveryoumind]

Everyone should read who owns England by Guy Shrubsole

[@robertdale2964]

Blimey. She's got big.....eyes...

[@andymartinez767]

Gosh, 15 year lease, yeeek. I too would be concerned.

[@youknowthemroundcirclethin9036]

1:55 it's what Deborah thinks !🤦‍♂️🤣

[@mesushantmt]

She is thinking “should I carry on the roll, or should I throw it away and dig a new booger?”

[@Mike-jl2kp]

He needs to go to a tailors

[@erepsekahs]

I hear Deborah's building one as we speak.

[@M00DS87]

What a fantastic pair!

[@jrbs]

1:06 not interested

[@BU-jc1sd]

😂

[@eugenecheong7066]

Business is called Jolly Days...but I'm not seeing any 'jolly'...

[@Hoopspur]

£200000 up front?

[@Leewoods123]

My thoughts on this episode; - that woman’s got some set on her! - the woman kept interrupting the man. If I’d been in his shoes I’d have told her to know her place!

[@maxandshakira]

She must get unbelievable back pain !

[@AngMortem]

Lady Dimitrescu: The Early Days

[@Stonk5331]

my man

[@grtu4252]

Hello from Australia.

[@wanderingalba5077]

Gidday mate 👍😀 New Zealand here 🖐️

[@D.E.E.P.Y.]

Canada here as well 🤝

[@missscousemouth82]

Hiiii 👋🏼👋🏼👋🏼

[@CuddleSeason]

Hello from The Netherlands

[@mrsurprise2294]

Greetings from Mars

[@Horizon344]

Buxom lass.

[@abiose_rocks]

The dragons are right, It's the most expensive rent they're setting up for themselves, bad investment especially if no exit plan

[@freezasama5802]

Glamping... never heard that word before

[@rayenbow3281]

glamorous ➡️ ⬅️camping - Glamping! 🙂

[@p.v.7269]

It's an idiotic word. Glamorous camping is still just camping. If I cook glamorously, I'm not *Glooking*, I'm still just cooking.

[@tomhill3287]

@@p.v.7269 I bet you’re fun at parties

[@rayenbow3281]

@@p.v.7269 It's called Portmanteau (different terms to create a new single word). There are many examples of it.

[@rayenbow3281]

@@tomhill3287 They bring him out of the back room when they want everyone to go home.

[@fr5335]

Id rather stick pins in my eyelids than invest.

[@GadgetAddict]

That's a shame. It seems like they've done great so far. But I guess they're right about the risk of building so much on land you only have a 15 year lease on.

[@robmarrin6720]

I'd construct them to be moved incase the land owner gets any idea's, in reality it's more likely that the leasehold will increase to reflect the business use if he makes a profit in 15 year's of say 2 million I'd want 100k for doing nothing forget taking it over.

[@michaellynn9763]

@@robmarrin6720 “You took the words right outta my mouth”

[@michaellynn9763]

No kissing though :)

[@TMPreRaff]

Their business is called "Jolly Days"... and look at their hopelessly sad faces. They look like undertakers.

[@harlowblackadder356]

The lift is fake right? Please, anyone, confirm.

[@johnmc3862]

It is, they had vehicles in front of the dragons, they didn’t use the lift.

[@BoomBo28]

Debra knows you can invest in south Africa for on 10k in the camping world 🌎

[@rdxbpw5256]

They can do lease to own contact and come out of this the way want.

[@WobblesandBean]

No they can't. They're already locked into the lease, there's nothing they can do. Plus most of the sites they want are on private land, and I doubt they're keen on "lease to own" in those situations.

[@tamzy4825]

@@WobblesandBean you would be suprised specialy since the SCAMDEMIC...

[@BenjaminGoose]

@@tamzy4825 Oh god, you're one of those idiots.

[@tamzy4825]

@@BenjaminGoose MMMM fluvid got you by the balls aswell... haha FOOL

[@Finderskeepers.]

not on a commercial lease however they do have an automatic right to renew unless contracted out