INSTANT DEATH! OPTICOAT HYPERSEAL vs ETHOS RESIST Spray Ceramic Paint Protection TEST.

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Hawaii Detailing

Hawaii Detailing

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@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I am an Optimum Fan. I have many products from them that I like a lot. I did not want this to happen at all. I wanted a full torture test with 2 hard fighters. Optimum does make a version 2 of this product and I am hopeful that it is much better. They claim the durability is much better. I hope you enjoyed the video anyway.
@paulgyro
@paulgyro Жыл бұрын
Oh, this was an old v1 bottle?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
@@paulgyro they say version 2 lasts 2x as long.
@79blustone
@79blustone Жыл бұрын
​@HawaiiDetailing Haha twice as long- two mild snowfoams 🤣
@Wes23Sut
@Wes23Sut Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing so 2 washes 🤣
@PeteKowalsky
@PeteKowalsky Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing 2x ZERO is still ZERO tho, right dude? LOL! 🤙🏻
@theLizardof0z
@theLizardof0z Жыл бұрын
That is very shocking. One wash and it was DONE!! Even Suds Labs should do better that, and at a fraction of the price. Once again - awesome video! Keep them coming bud.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching & supporting the channel
@Spirited282
@Spirited282 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you back at making videos, thanks for this one. Ethos is a clear winner and i have always wanted to try their products
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for following the channel. I got some good vids planned and will try to upload more regularly.
@marcg1964
@marcg1964 Жыл бұрын
I like the Ethos coatings. Very interested in seeing more tests with their other products.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I really like the foam party. Smells amazing.
@misfit72492
@misfit72492 Жыл бұрын
I have an optimum pro ceramic coating on my car and was recommended hyperseal as a topper. The way water is lazy to evacuate immediately turns me off to it. The glossy look is nice after application, but the hydrophobics are kind of lame. Thanks for confirming that I’m not crazy thinking it’s lacking!
@richsmith3120
@richsmith3120 Жыл бұрын
You want to test spray sealants try Phoenix EOD Titan vs Apex Detail BC3 or Phoenix EOD Immortal vs Apex Detail BC2!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I will check them out for a possible future video. Thanks!
@toruhirao4975
@toruhirao4975 Жыл бұрын
I second this one. Titan and BC3 are 2 of my top spray sealants in a whole closet full of stuff. Great ease of application, slickness & gloss, and good durability for a spray sealant. Can even use both off label as a spray and rinse. Some of my favorites were Defy, Resist, Premier, Polish Angel Cosmic Spritz but all are remaining unused.
@catguy64
@catguy64 Жыл бұрын
Titan 🦅 👍🏻
@petitmignon9165
@petitmignon9165 Жыл бұрын
Good Job Dude
@mattheviewer
@mattheviewer Жыл бұрын
If the Opticoat Hyperseal had a gold sticker proclaiming "new ceramic formula" then that's the latest version which has SIC as well as SIO2. If no sticker's on Hyperseal bottle, it's the older SIO2 only formula. They both need an hour to cure before being washed.
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado Жыл бұрын
He literally gave it a few weeks to cure 😂
@devinbourgeois6560
@devinbourgeois6560 4 ай бұрын
the old version is better to me.i have to put 2 coats of the new formula to get same results as old one. Contacted customer support who suggested I use their new Ultra Ceramic Seal. Just ordered it, hope it works better.
@TheBreakfastLover
@TheBreakfastLover 3 ай бұрын
​@@devinbourgeois6560any update?
@PeteyMcSavage
@PeteyMcSavage Жыл бұрын
3D bead it up has been a nice surprise
@craftedballistics
@craftedballistics Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting! Miss you bro! Mahalo! 🤙🏼
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching & supporting the channel
@equestrianwhisky
@equestrianwhisky Жыл бұрын
I believe someone already mentioned it, but I would definitely have a look at the manufacture date on the bottle. Another channel looked at a different OptiCoat product, and it underperformed for sure; however, it was more than 18 months old. Wondering if that’s what happened here.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for commenting and the suggestion. I am confused too. Don't know but if that is the case I am still not impressed. $45+ and says it last a year on the paint but wont last 6 months in the bottle?? If there are old bottles flying around and it’s that sensitive to time they should put an expiration date on it.
@VIDEOHEREBOB
@VIDEOHEREBOB Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@bstewartexecutivecarcare3797
@bstewartexecutivecarcare3797 Жыл бұрын
I have tried both brands and Ethos products are, IMHO, superior. Now I am not saying Optimum products are bad but for the price, and side by side, I would recommend Ethos. Their regular car soap I think is underrated. Very good at cleaning and the lubricant aspect is phenomenal. I enjoy watching your videos especially when you laugh at your own jokes 😂 makes ME laugh every time 👍✌️☮️
@Danny-xj5ts
@Danny-xj5ts Жыл бұрын
Bro I love watching your videos and seeing you crack yourself up
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@joshrulz8p
@joshrulz8p Жыл бұрын
this video literally saved me from buying hyperseal even while on clearance special
@ScottKelley
@ScottKelley Жыл бұрын
Very interesting... I haven't tried hyperseal but I have used Optiseal successfully. I do love me some Ethos though. I've only tried Defy and it's awesome, one of my favorite products to use. I will definitely try out Resist at some point.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@Scottwax
@Scottwax Жыл бұрын
Apply with a foam pad like Opti-Seal. That's the best way by far to apply it for durability.
@derickflores9138
@derickflores9138 Жыл бұрын
Try suds lab ceramic products
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I will check it out for a possible future video. Thanks!
@OpticDetailingKY
@OpticDetailingKY Жыл бұрын
Damn. That water beat the hell outta Opticoat 😂 that was super weird. PH Detail supply makes a Ceramic quick coat. Give that a shot if you ever come across it. Very versatile product!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha. Thats funny.
@ROFLWAFFLE1911
@ROFLWAFFLE1911 Жыл бұрын
I see on their website they have a new formula.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah it better be 10x as good. Thanks for watching
@MichaelBlast
@MichaelBlast 5 ай бұрын
Wow... I recently started looking at Ethos products
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 5 ай бұрын
They have a great line.
@chreeno
@chreeno Жыл бұрын
Those are the exact results I got with hyperseal as well
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Yeah. I wanted to like it but no can.
@TNTMOTO
@TNTMOTO Жыл бұрын
Great video.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@jeffb2319
@jeffb2319 Жыл бұрын
I've used ethos ceramic pro detail spray and it didn't seem to last for me. It also felt sticky after rain. At 70mph I wasn't getting water off the panels of my car when driving. The pro ceramic wax was great to work with, but I only got a month of good protection from it before having to reapply. I've moved to DIY Details products and couldn't be happier
@hogboss7046
@hogboss7046 Жыл бұрын
I use Resist on top of my Ethos Matrix Ceramic coating about once every 4 or 5 months. It's pretty good stuff
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah it seems like a nice product
@detailersgarage
@detailersgarage Жыл бұрын
Great video, surprised by the Hyperseal.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
You and me both! Thanks.
@josephrottina1901
@josephrottina1901 Жыл бұрын
Nice job brother.👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
@sonnyta5189
@sonnyta5189 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a chemical guys hydro slick vs ethos ?
@Bunbunnyart
@Bunbunnyart 8 ай бұрын
I think hydroslick is comparable to ethos ceramic wax. I used hydroslick on my car and it’s held up okay but it’s a giant pain in the ass to buff off. It also streaks like crazy. I’m about to switch out my chemical guys stuff for ethos.
@1stfrompuertorico568
@1stfrompuertorico568 Жыл бұрын
Nice!!!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@barrybij8079
@barrybij8079 Жыл бұрын
the ethos resist and defy are great products....
@mikehittner1424
@mikehittner1424 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Jeremey, I know you have done some of these camparos in the past, who is the leader so far? Griots? Ethos? Who do you like best?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks. So far it Koch Chemie.
@jeffc6832
@jeffc6832 Жыл бұрын
Hmm...that's weird. I've never used Hyper Seal, but everything I've heard about it is positive. The TRC boys really like it, but I can't imagine that would be the case with performance like you saw. What is the date on the bottle? I wonder if it could be old product, or if it was from a bad batch or something...
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Anything is possible. Not sure what this was. I did not want this to happen at all. I was bummed to not do the torture. They have a version 2. I am sure and hopeful that it is better.
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails Жыл бұрын
Older then genesis
@JamieTheCleaner
@JamieTheCleaner Жыл бұрын
@@Ecdetails😂😂😂
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails Жыл бұрын
@@JamieTheCleaner 😂😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
@PolishedMobileDetailing503
@PolishedMobileDetailing503 Жыл бұрын
They “like it”because they sell it
@PennywiseM3
@PennywiseM3 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a torture test between Griots 3-in-1 vs Koch Chemie?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Good one. Yeah.
@PeteyMcSavage
@PeteyMcSavage Жыл бұрын
Love ‘em videos
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@armourdetailsupply
@armourdetailsupply Жыл бұрын
Hey Jeremy! How can we get some of our products out to Hawaii for you to test?! We think you will be quite impressed with our Ceramic Spray Sealant in comparison to these two!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Shoot me an email. I am glad to take a look.
@ryeguy01
@ryeguy01 Жыл бұрын
That is super weird behavior. Hyperseal has actually been updated twice since the original version (the most recent update was a couple months ago). I wonder if this product just went bad? It's rated for a year+ protection, soap shouldn't be able to wipe it out like that.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah. I don't know what the hack happened here. Pretty damn week
@tafl-9198
@tafl-9198 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried applying HyperSeal with a foam applicator and then letting it “flash” before buffing ?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I tried everything and unfortunately it just did not perform well even under normal conditions. My thoughts are if it takes too much effort and kinda sucks after all the effort its just not that great. I bought it at full price and wanted it to be good but just cant give it my thumbs up at this point. They are working on a stronger version and I am hopeful that will be better.
@marcusbarnes5929
@marcusbarnes5929 8 ай бұрын
​@@HawaiiDetailingopti coat hyper seal 2 has been out for a year now.. have you tried it yet?
@aaron30569
@aaron30569 Жыл бұрын
Jeremy do you ceramic coat your cars?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yes I do. This Tesla has opticoat pro plus. Was a good coating but there are plenty of good consumer level coatings out there that work great. I plan to polish and coat it again soon. I Will try to do a good vid on it. Thanks
@joevanseeters2873
@joevanseeters2873 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review of this Jeremy. I've been interested in this Hyperseal for a long time (from way back when it first came out on the first generation of the product) but I never had the opportunity to purchase it. I am glad I didn't. Especially since it is twice the price of Opti-Seal. I've used Opti-seal in the past with pretty good results but it too had no longevity in my opinion but it was ok as a quick topper after a rinseless wash with ONR. Optimum needs to re-think their strategy on this one. You would think a company with the reputation of Optimum would have a much better product than this for the price they are charging. A complete FAILURE for the price.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. They sent out a replacement bottle . I will test it on the hood again. I will put it on there and see what happens. I hope its better.
@joevanseeters2873
@joevanseeters2873 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing Looking forward to the retest! That was a product I was really hoping would turn out to be a stellar product. Thanking you in advance Jeremy for all your hard work in making these testing video's which ultimately help both the professional and fledgling detailers alike in making a sound decision when purchasing products. People deserve the best bang for their buck and I hate when I waste money on products that just go right into File 13.
@Tylerzee00
@Tylerzee00 Жыл бұрын
What towels were you using?
@sunset6958
@sunset6958 9 ай бұрын
did you use the same rag for both?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 9 ай бұрын
No
@JamieTheCleaner
@JamieTheCleaner Жыл бұрын
Opti Coat 😮
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Hey Jamie. I am not sure what happened with this test. I wanted it to last. I was bummed. I have used hyperseal on a coated vehicle and it was super slick and looked great but the car had a top tier ceramic coating on it so it was beading and sheeting like crazy. Stand alone I wasn't even able to wash it without it melting off the paint. Keep up the great work on your channel. I always watch your tiktoks. Anyone that reads this should stop by and check out Jamies channel. Good stuff.
@JamieTheCleaner
@JamieTheCleaner Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing yeah not sure either but definitely a big disappointment, thanks buddy love these videos keep bringing the quality & entertainment 💪🧼
@johnfreeman440
@johnfreeman440 Жыл бұрын
More like Opti-Crap. Just a reminder that the industry has some real questionable product floating around amongst the solid stuff like your DIY Details, Ethos, Griot's Garages, and McKee's 37s...
@aalfonso4706
@aalfonso4706 Жыл бұрын
And the price of that OPT product is not cheap . Hmmmm thanks for the video
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching
@RonColeman-zy5cd
@RonColeman-zy5cd Жыл бұрын
Wow that was unreal can't believe that. I bet the people that made that stuff would be crazy after seeing that 😢😢
@BetterThanNewDetailing
@BetterThanNewDetailing Жыл бұрын
Not sure how familiar you are with Resist. HyperSeal never had a chance. Resist is a bonafide 6 months to 1 year Graphene paint sealant, it’s no joke, and not just a topper. My garaged, seldom driven car has had Resist on it for 13 months and is still beading and rolling water off!
@devinbourgeois6560
@devinbourgeois6560 4 ай бұрын
who makes resist? Ethos?
@BetterThanNewDetailing
@BetterThanNewDetailing 4 ай бұрын
@@devinbourgeois6560 yes. Ethos. All their coatings are excellent also!
@xp2autocare
@xp2autocare Жыл бұрын
To optimum maybe we can cooperate to improve the product....we are coating factory from Indonesia
@ThisOldDetailingDude
@ThisOldDetailingDude Жыл бұрын
I could be mistaken. But I thought Hyperseal is a sheeter not a beader. Does anyone know for sure?
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
It was a pretty weak sheeter. no pun intended. Hahahaha
@Dee--Jay
@Dee--Jay Жыл бұрын
We live in a time where longevity is important. Everyone looks for it and they still couldn't get it right. At the bare minimum, all waxes and or detail sprays should atleast last 5 washes
@urntwrthyZ
@urntwrthyZ 9 ай бұрын
Looks like you were using the oldest version of Hyper Seal. The newest one has a gold "NEW Ceramic Formula" sticker. The next newest version has a gold "NEW Formula" sticker.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 8 ай бұрын
I have all the versions. Tested them over and over in more ways than I wanted to do just to make sure this was not a fluke. I am a fan of optimum overall they have great polishes,ONR and other products but unfortunately this is not their best stuff. Maybe they will get it right on the next version.
@neilwalker5041
@neilwalker5041 Жыл бұрын
Kind of a shocker as this is some of the worse durability I have seen since Zymol made a ceramic spray. I have used Ethos and it works well for about five months and then it fades.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your ethos results
@TheCarDetailingChannel
@TheCarDetailingChannel Жыл бұрын
Any product should’ve done than that Optiseal. Disappointing results
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah not sure what the heck happened there. I have used it before on a coated vehicle and it was slick and looked great but the car had a top teir ceramic coating on it so it was beading and sheeting like crazy. Stand along it was pretty weak.
@ethanblan435
@ethanblan435 Жыл бұрын
Had my eye on hyper seal for a while. Thanks for the review, very disappointing product. I think I’ll lean towards diy detail ceramic gloss, which I love, and owners pride ceramic detailer, which I’ve heard great things about
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails Жыл бұрын
He saved you some money bro
@ethanblan435
@ethanblan435 Жыл бұрын
@@Ecdetails saved me like $50 😂 how does it fail after one wash. He literally let it cure for over a week too 😂
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails Жыл бұрын
@@ethanblan435 ya oh no rizz and there products making head way
@ethanblan435
@ethanblan435 Жыл бұрын
@@Ecdetails 😂 I’m going to pick up op when I finish off my defender bottle. Boutta start using the spray and rinse Jamie method to use it up faster
@marshprofessionaldetailing9794
@marshprofessionaldetailing9794 Жыл бұрын
That Opticoat Hyperseal is surprisingly weak for durability. Dang..
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yes it was. I got a newer version and will test it soon to see how it does. Thanks for watching
@marshprofessionaldetailing9794
@marshprofessionaldetailing9794 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing looking forward to seeing if there is a difference.
@georgesrisomsak9650
@georgesrisomsak9650 Жыл бұрын
Thats crazy. It beading before suds and a wipe shows its not the application. The product washes off really easy, period. I use turtle wax hybrid solutions (yeah, I know its not fancy stuff), and it beads better than anything I've personally used, and lasts, wash after wash after wash. This is very disappointing from a manufacturer of really good products that you pay more for because its that good. I definitely wont use this version of it! Great test, no way you muffed that up dude. Thats a product failure all the way.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@PeteyMcSavage
@PeteyMcSavage Жыл бұрын
Opti and disappointed are often in same sentence
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
HahahahA. That’s a good one.
@dukeweisenfluh9205
@dukeweisenfluh9205 Жыл бұрын
Promo SM 👉
@מדינט
@מדינט Жыл бұрын
Optimum clearly rushed these products in to the market with almost zero testing, shame on them, no wonder they took all the new line of products of the shelfs.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I have a new bottle that I will test soon.
@javaTL
@javaTL Жыл бұрын
That was an excessive amount of Hyper Seal on the panel. 1 spray max!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yes it was. Thanks. Unfortunately I could have used the whole bottle and would not have mattered. They have a new version that I will be testing very soon. I hear it much better.
@Andresthebigkat
@Andresthebigkat Жыл бұрын
That’s wild even bead maker has better durability 😂😂
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Yeah it does.
@nachomandetailingservices1057
@nachomandetailingservices1057 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Garbage! Ethos wins amazing showing for ethos
@The001122
@The001122 4 ай бұрын
I don’t believe this test, I used opticoate and ethos and always opticoate was more shiny and had a better hydrophobe. You polished the optocoat side too much
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing 4 ай бұрын
@@The001122 Grab a bottle and let us know how it works for you. Support the companies you like. Thats what I do. I always hope for the best when I do these tests. I am always bummed when they are not what I hoped. Thanks for watching.
@216baja
@216baja Жыл бұрын
Wow, those are disappointing results from Optimum. 😮😮😮
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah I hoped it would go differently but my test lasted 2 mins. Hahahaha.
@archiepezek
@archiepezek Жыл бұрын
That was eye-opening terrible. Nice biceps shot there Jeremy.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. Thanks. Been getting healthy, eating good and working out.
@archiepezek
@archiepezek Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing Keep up the great work!
@79blustone
@79blustone Жыл бұрын
Wow Optimum sucked. I'm going to stick with Reload 2.0. Convince me not too...
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
I will put it on the hood if you want me to.
@79blustone
@79blustone Жыл бұрын
@HawaiiDetailing 🙌 you're OK thanks 😂
@fillflashdetailer8838
@fillflashdetailer8838 Жыл бұрын
Looks like this Hyperseal is more akin to F11 Top Coat. In other words, pure garbage.
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Hahahaha.
@beachlife3772
@beachlife3772 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it was a bad chemical batch...or they changed their formula....either case you paid good money for a product that is worthless.
@LCculater
@LCculater Жыл бұрын
Baaaaaaaaaammmm 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@PolishedMobileDetailing503
@PolishedMobileDetailing503 Жыл бұрын
I have 2 year old Opti seal ( the original) and it performs far better than this 😂
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Good to hear. I have a new bottle I will be testing really soon.
@PolishedMobileDetailing503
@PolishedMobileDetailing503 Жыл бұрын
@@HawaiiDetailing we are looking forward to it. I love OPT products but no denying that was a very sad performance.
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 Жыл бұрын
First!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Almost. Thanks
@Amor1990
@Amor1990 Жыл бұрын
Ethos is a seed company
@mattdymes812
@mattdymes812 Жыл бұрын
Even chemical guys works better than that
@jacksonsdrones
@jacksonsdrones Жыл бұрын
FIRST!
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Oh man missed it by seconds. Thanks for checking in fast. I like it.
@cebasmb8250
@cebasmb8250 Жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed in opti seal too BS
@MatthewHurtado
@MatthewHurtado Жыл бұрын
First
@HawaiiDetailing
@HawaiiDetailing Жыл бұрын
Close one this time but you are there man. Thanks for always supporting the channel.
@BradleyNilsen
@BradleyNilsen Жыл бұрын
Neither are impressive.
@ethoscarcare
@ethoscarcare Жыл бұрын
This is unfortunate to hear from a competitor Bradley.
@BradleyNilsen
@BradleyNilsen Жыл бұрын
As you know, speed wax is far superior@@ethoscarcare
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