HD Starcraft 2 TT1 v MasterAsia p4/4

[@SaltetDweeb]

Still one of my favorite match that i find myself come back to watch even after 10 years!

[@Pat1711]

Still my most favorite Starcraft 2 match till this day.

[@Sakkboi]

You know, this match was close as hell. If you look back at one of the previous parts, he gets one of his LAST drones to get one LAST mineral from the crystal, which brings his minerals from 24 to 29, thus allowing him to make that extractor. That was truly amazing.

[@MrRuufs]

@Modsbylaz u are very right, although when he did have a lair his Olords that were spilling creep stay toggled "on" when the lair dies, but at the same time leaving his other Olords unable to spill creep

[@NeverOr3]

@mochafrapthunder exractor are 25 minerals however the drone is 50 mineral. so yes in total exractors are indeed 75 minerals

[@meroippi]

@cephyric I ment that if the drone is attacking one building, and the ling another, they will not have the shields regenning on neither, and thus getting the buildings down quicker overall?

[@Vi3tVictor]

@SupAndy123 its 75 min but the drone counts as 50 minerals

[@chickenyogurt]

Holy shit, LOL One of the greatest replays I've ever seen

[@trtnec]

@hitmachine8 yeah it is a distance but if you understand what a light year is, it also really is a time as well. For example if you're looking a light year's distance away you are looking one year into the past as well. So when we look at the stars which are many light years away we are looking exactly that many years into the past.

[@mindormood1]

I was just surprised to find out that Masterasia is a statistic professor at Waterloo...

[@asleeperj]

@pandadotc0m +1 attack also requires an evo chamber, It doesn't go away after the chamber is destroyed. You get the upgrade after completing a lair, and thus it doesn't go away after the lair/hive is destroyed.

[@ShakeyBox]

@Samzonx - 88mph isn't also an hour and a mile because it has those words in it.

[@ORCA4312]

@Aesoe Yes. You do lose the ability to turn creep generation on, but it's a toggle - once on, it stays on until you turn it off.

[@darkpozr]

wow... just wow, amazing... i wonder tho, did Master have this planned out earlier or just figure it out last minute?

[@xCoolzxX]

@David1582 its because its on auto cast, so it will keep spewing even if the lair is lost.

[@draneiwarior]

@Modsbylaz They can't the reason the overlords cud still pour creep is because the TURNED THEM ON b4 the LAIR DIED. Once lair dies, the button is unresearched, but the overlords who had them on previously still has them on.

[@assalane]

@nycet224 : you can't actually say that. it's "it takes 1000 years for the light particle to reach planet x"

[@CoffeeKitty.]

@hansbo11 actually its both, it is both the distance light travels in one year, and also, one year, because it is defined as such...

[@Furycrab]

@danm966 It's kinda like a free upgrade you get when you get the lair, otherwise it could become wierd if you lose it at key times or have to bind it to the hive as well.

[@TheBalefire]

@TheNoizeController they did... that is why the buildings were not bleeding out. Extractors don't need creep to survive tho, so he wasn't worried about those. Also, you need a lair before overlords can generate creep, so once the lair went down, only the overlords already generating creep could continue to generate creep.

[@nycet224]

@Dogtar2 yeah but if you say it takes 1,000 light years for the light particle to reach planet x, then in that sense it's a unit of time.

[@jonas2836]

@UnknownXV the drone = 50 supply since it dies when u make the building, so instead of 75 its 25

[@handsomecaveman]

@Aybara09 That's the fun part. You do lose the tech to spew creep, but the Overlords which have creep spewing "on" don't stop. He could only use those he used to spread creep earlier.

[@PCGamerPortal]

@ammonsjon bleeding buildings dont lose health over time unless they are not on creep, when on creep they regenerate health even if they are in 1 hp.

[@ZombieBrianK]

@helmut345 he probably had his overlords already generating creep before the lair went down and because the overlords were over water they didnt use the creep but they still had it so that they were generating it.

[@Maxamis21]

@jonas2836 did u mean all of zergs buildings actually cost 50 "minerals" less?

[@RalphCruz09]

@MaxFlared dude if you look veeeery closely asia has 55 minerals and extractor is worth 50 thats why in the end he only got 5 minerals left.

[@jdean9]

@kalee6 because he had 29 minerals. a pair of zerglings costs 50, an extractor costs 25

[@ThaRami]

PS. A lightyear is a distance, not a time unit.

[@fortyblinks]

@GraxtheDestroyer Indeed. I'm not really generalizing Zerg advantages but rather showing just how strong they become in this particular situation.

[@007yah]

do broodlings move faster on creep? if so mass creep with overlords right? just a question

[@pkfighter343]

@lacostic Extractor cost: 50 for the drone, 25 for the building. 75.

[@quantumchaos]

This is the most epic replay I have ever watched, ever.

[@trondy89]

lightyears is not a meassurement of time, but a meassurement of distance, HD.

[@srsh12345]

omg, i can't believe the ending. Amazingly clever. So many things coming into play that we always overlook ... two brilliant players.

[@elephantricity]

What folder do I save replays to in order to watch them in the star craft 2 replay viewer?

[@totyny1]

@Meloku171 how was he able to build an extractor with only 29 minerals? i dont get it...

[@unrealking]

@David1582 he had a lair at one point so if he makes the overlords spawn creep they will keep spawning creep even if the lair dies.

[@RabidChocobo]

@TehTpyoKing Starring M. Night Shyamalan, right?

[@hencker07]

man this was soo worth the waiting of not knowing why the game was so long. unbelieveable ending! i definitely didn't see that coming! so awesome

[@flintstonebettyli032]

@123xcharmerx321 yeah, you're right. I'm not a zerg player, so I didn't know about the 6 minerals lost when you cancel. So if TT1 found out about the extractor he could've stopped attacking the buildings and gone back to kill off the extractor before finishing off the 2 buildings. This was TT1's game!

[@redmanPH]

@mrhoppy654 hmm are you sure? he seemed very surprise himself with the last minute antiques of the two especially masterasia. i mean yeah he knew the length of the battle, but i guess it's easy to know that before watching the replay

[@crunkstr8502]

this game is so epic. im watchin this a year later and its still so awesome

[@naoAUT]

Where did the mins for the assimilator come from? lol??

[@Dmaster2k]

@jakklc they don't bleed out if they are on creep, infact they start to heal.

[@tomatokiller30]

where'd masterasia get the minerals for the exctractor? he only had like 24 minerals.

[@tomatokiller30]

where'd masterasia get the minerals to build the excractor?

[@ORCA4312]

@icedragon003 Functionally, it's actually more costly for the Zerg, as they lose a worker also.

[@TheFlowrider7]

where did red get the money for the extractor??? he just had 25 and i think a extractor costs 75?

[@rookie907]

wouldnt the overloads cant spew creep because there is no more lair?

[@TheeAntiFOB]

@FinalFrog I was just thinking that. Someone needs to do an edit of part 3 with some.

[@roblox13337]

@derenathor how long is a light year anyway?

[@Dahxelb]

@lachus16 Zerg extractors are cheeper because it costs them a drone as well.

[@Modsbylaz]

I'm surprised MasterAsia didn't use his overlords to lay down a large zone of creep so the broodlings would run faster, or don't they do that?

[@damnsky]

I am just curious when AM builds the extractor. Watch 6:50, when AM builds the extractor, TT1 has yet taken out either pool or spire. Technically, if AM realizes what was going then, he can still go back and hunt down the drone, and then come back and kill both zerg building. Well, no one would thing something like this could happen.

[@iAkOu1]

@heyitsyeh Even with the new stalemate detection, games like these still can happen as long as buildings are destroyed within the time limit.

[@manyworlds123456789]

When i play sc2, theres always a message saying "try closing other applications to improve performance"... as a matter of fact my gameplay is always laggy (even on minimal graphs)... So what do i have to close to improve performance?? Someone help please! I've already contacted tech support and they didnt help!!

[@redsoxman2008]

I think TT could have won if he killed the spire first, then ran right next to the spawning pool so the broodlings couldn't surround him there and continue off the creep so the broodlings wouldn't get the speed. What do you guys think?

[@Gulzt]

Hahaha, that extractor, epic! During the zergling-zealot chase, MasterAsia could have used some of the lords to spew creep and make that ling even faster in TT1's base :-)

[@rbvtejada]

how was he able to generate creep afterlosing his lair?

[@UnknownXV]

I dont have SC2 yet, extractors cost less than 29 minerals to make now?!

[@dinggeling]

how much is an extractor? isnt it more than 29 minerals????

[@PleasantlyLee]

Fun fact - Light years is a measurement of distance not time.

[@xFlared]

wait! vespene for zerg cost 25? isnt it 75 or they took the cost of drone which is 50 and add aditional 25 to make it 75. for a second i thought asia hacked

[@brothermanvideos]

Why didn't Master Asia get one of his Overlords off Evo-Chamber Nourishing Duty, and Lay down some creep to help the Zergling move faster?

[@rbvtejada]

how was he able to generate creep after losing his lair??

[@JakeValdor]

@PiIstTeilbar As long as you don't tell them to stop making creep then they will continue despite not having a lair. It's not a bug, I don't see why they'd lose the ability to make creep if the lair dies when they are ALREADY doing it.

[@krystof777]

@BrattleFower Did u watch the end of the vid??

[@Smokey504]

@PiIstTeilbar i think he hit spill creep before the lair died just how he extractor b4 buildings died

[@kenneyhuang]

@egghead268 well you have to factor in that you lose the drone too... drone (50min) + extractor (25min) = 75min for an extractor = 75min for assimilator/refinery

[@Matkatamiba]

@UnorthodoxSaint colloxun?

[@UnknownXV]

@nycet224 It takes light 1,000 years to reach planet x, not light years. :P Light year is meant to be a measurement of distance.

[@trtnec]

what would happen if the zealot killed the zergling and drone, but then was killed by broodlings, leaving both players with buildings but no units to kill any of them? Somebody just has to leave first and lose?

[@Undertow8511]

Fantastic game. I was wondering when he was going to use the Overlords to puke creep. I don't know why he didn't use it with the zergling or broodlings, though. -__-

[@godverdekanker1]

how are the overlords still pooping creep without a lair?

[@kamatej]

didn't he have like 29 minerals? How much does an extractor cost?

[@soylentgreenb]

@SerumD That's exactly what TTOne did. You didn't watch the video?

[@fartquad326]

@Awang333 If you haven't watched it on your computer yet, the zealot brings the last two zerg buildings down to the red, then destroys them both within seconds of each other to be eaten by the broodlings, but MasterAsia builds an extractor with his last drone just in time ftw!

[@Fimontronia]

But how can the ov spew creep on the buildings after lair died? I thought you need lair to spew creep.

[@AlexandreLemay64]

if overlords are already spweing creep they dont stop if lair dies

[@mochafrapthunder]

he only had 29 minerals though. it's 75 to make right to make an exractor?

[@nageljeuk]

@Rekedien OBVIOUS HACK? Maybe this is some patch where it didn't require it or something. Liquipedia doesn't seem to log any of that.

[@FranzSarmiento]

Words can not explain how absolutely EPIC this game is

[@AJashaman]

since when could overlords drop creep without a lair?

[@lethargicastengah572]

What if the zergling finished off the spire and killed off the zealot then?

[@Hu6CityRidah]

@EpitomeofE he didn't notice he was too focus on his killing both building micro.

[@fortyblinks]

@David1582 Not really. Each race has a mixed bag of situational goodies that wreak havoc in the right hands. It shines remarkably for the Zerg here, but seeing what you're currently capable of and using them creatively is a hallmark of a good player. Here's an example: Overlord creep vomiting to deny expansions is a decent tactic but little used because there's usually enough anti-air by the time you get it. But don't think that the opportunity will never arise. It can, and it eventually will.

[@OttoPussner]

@Moerasgeest Hmm. Well I suppose it could. It 's normally used for distance but I suppose it could be used for time aswell.

[@Maduo]

@narutoxninja37 6:50, freeze frame for a second and you can see the drone just starting to make the extractor ;)

[@Mistman12]

that was a hell of a game, probably the best i've ever seen.

[@pandadotc0m]

After killing the extractors couldn't he just go back to his base and defend vs. the zergling because once the creep recedes, those two buildings would just die?

[@snowflakepillow8697]

Lol was this game what made Blizzard change Corruption into Caustic Spray?

[@PhoenixDog2160]

@D3athpool You didn't watch the rest of the video did you...

[@mochafrapthunder]

@NeverOr3 really? an assimilator is 75 minerals for protoss.

[@reddog418]

@chemao1978 Wrong. He didn't have enough health to survive two buildings worth of broodlings. Hence the double kill. Your plan would've lost just as quickly.

[@BeggarSyu]

Love HD's expression at 7:06 "Why has the game not ended..." Scrolls over "OHHH MY GOODNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

[@UnorthodoxSaint]

@Timmehhyy It takes light years for colloxun to get any damn place though

[@BenjaminLanctin]

@JMFerreira7 Yep, Extractors as zerg cost a measly 25 minerals. I actually saw it coming :P just found it funny that HD hadn't realized he had enough.

[@CrustyOatmeal]

@dogpad5 lighyear is just a measure of distance dude. it is how far light travels in a year, you cannot use it as a unit of time

[@ORCA4312]

@hombredelpartido Yes. A draw option should be available.

[@EnderStarcraft]

I still come back to watch this game sometimes.. And I saw it during beta