The Most Stable OLED Display I've Measured in HDR Mode - 500 Nits at 50% Window Size!

[@skybuilder23]

A 32" OLED pannel like this with a high refresh rate is my dream.

[@flygonbreloom]

@Garrus Vakarian There's plenty of people that would pay five times that... @_@

[@ooHotcooleRoo]

They also supposedly had a 28inch panel, that would also be nice... 120hz would be fine.. eh.. one can dream.

[@wafer2582]

@Garrus Vakarian I would buy it if it wasn't curved

[@RobertK1993]

32 OLED 4K TV completely useless in most use cases way way to small

[@lars2894]

28-32", QD-OLED, True 4K, 165Hz, 300 Nits Full-View SDR, 1000 Nits Peak-3% HDR, DisplayPort 2.0 Input, Glossy Anti-Reflective Coating, Adjustable Stand.

[@ouki4925]

Man how I wish JOLED would take off for the mainstream monitor market. QDOLED has potential but the biggest issue is the crappy triangle subpixel layout that ruins it for monitors.

[@FrowningTaco]

Next year 27" and 32" WOLED based monitors should arrive. Most likely 1440p resolution with 240hz refresh rate if previous rumors are to be believed.

[@yeahbuddy300lbs]

@@FrowningTaco at what price, 5000 quid?

[@georgejones5019]

@@yeahbuddy300lbs I think it's would sit more around $1500-$2500 USD depending in features and size.

[@FrowningTaco]

@@yeahbuddy300lbs No, I don't think so as they are likely targeting gamers with such high refresh rate. The panels should be cheaper to produce than JOLED's RGB panels (used in the monitor in this review) due to yields and economies of scale. My guess is below $2000 USD at launch.

[@liuwh08]

philips already has one

[@gotminnam]

I love all your reviews. I've been following you for years. Thank you very much. It would also super cool if you start reviewing other photo editing screens (eizo, Asus, lg etc) (from low/mid range to high end)

[@derekspecht6323]

I know it’s really difficult nowadays to figure out which TVs or monitors can unofficially be 1000 Nits consistently or whatever resolution and Hz frame rate as well, but here’s my take, with every environmental standard and guidelines changing every year, it’s makes it very hard to find anything available or produce a product that can make requirement or benchmarks. Because we don’t have to technology down yet, we can make them but basically we are in the “beta stages” of all these features. For example, the 8k TVs out now aren’t truly native 8k, they still only are capable of 4K 120hz. For true 8k to be achieved, the hdmi ports and source have to output minimally 96gbps of data, which the current stuff only output 48gbps max, which is only sustain consistently 8k 24hz max what we call “UHD enhanced”. The panels are 8k, but the “brains and tech are still a little behind”. And with hdr, they are trying to find the sweet spot to obtain true HDR without the devices either overheated or burning out. The pandemic threw a wrench on a lot of things when it comes to progress, And with the EU epa person dropping the gavel on energy standards. It’s gonna take a a little longer before we see some stuff. Patience is key.

[@psionx1]

no one is really asking for 8k+ except VR headset makers. also energy standards only apply to default out of box display modes. the real limiter for HDR is that companies had problems making 10bit native color depth LCD. much less 8bit+FRC and no reliable way to distribute MiniLED on a substaight. though things are about to change because the chemistry has improved to the level we can inkjet print a OLED or MicroLED display. plus things can be made brighter with no extra heat or power cost using Micro Lens Arrays.

[@derekspecht6323]

@@psionx1 the real question is if the companies want to spend the money to do that. I hope they will. Long term benefits for them

[@psionx1]

@@derekspecht6323 TCL already did and should have products out next year. samsung is partially using inkjet printing for QD-OLED. they are also developing a Gallium Nitride blue OLED to replace the short lived Phosphor ones they currently have. still TCL has the advantage since they will be using a standard pixel layout. then you have LG who are stuck with old manufacturing methods but 1st to use MLAs.

[@crispycrusader1]

Hdmi 2.1 does 8k 60hz for exact pixel accuracy, not much wiggle room but around 47.7gbps?

[@an3k]

Would be interested in your opinion about the ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ or PG48UQ. Looks like the ideal TV-sized gaming monitor.

[@Hyperfluxe]

Same here, I'm interested in hearing his thoughts on the matte antiglare coating. It definitely looks muted in vibrancy next to a C2 if you check the TFT review but it depends on your lighting conditions.

[@ooHotcooleRoo]

Might as well just get an LG TV, since those are the same panels more or less..

[@UltimateLF]

I wonder if they have BFI (OLED MOTION) at 100 or 120hz

[@an3k]

@@ooHotcooleRoo Mabye but the ASUS is a GAMING Monitor, not a TV so you get all the features of a Gaming Monitor without the "image improving but delay inducing" stuff.

[@he.lena21]

I want is a 240Hz OLED monitor with BFI.

[@charismalifecoach5439]

Question guy's is it worth pointing a tall fan beside an oled? Many oleds out there without heatsink thinking of s95b and don't want to diminish viewing experience at all with oled health settings especially since I mainly use pc source ik is hard on panels

[@barphilosoph]

Which 42“ should I buy? The new SONY or the LG? And which is better for PS Gaming? Do you have an advice? 😊

[@Muzer0]

Maybe I'm an idiot but why would the dark screens trigger autodimming? Surely the TV should realise that everything is dark there and so not trigger it? Or are the algorithms much more stupid than that and concentrate on what the peak brightness could have been based on the HDR configuration, even if it isn't even close to being reached?

[@mastixencounter]

???

[@lucasn82_]

Sony/Panasonic printed OLED panel. Japan rules in OLED technologies.

[@RobertK1993]

Japanese brands are superior to South Korean and Chinnse brands for TVs

[@lucasn82_]

@@RobertK1993 90% of equipment and patents for OLED in Korea are from Japan and USA/EU.

[@BiriyaniParadiso]

Hello sir, Does PA32DC monitor have problems with 3D LUT calibration and pink tinting issue on the display? If you share the review, it will be much beneficial.

[@frenksevvy7756]

Hi Vincent! What do you think: buy a A95K now or wait for 2nd gen QD or LG MLA tech?

[@zgold1118]

I recently purchased this monitor and I am very impressed. But I do have a question, I was checking out the user profiles (Just to test the calibration on them) and I am noticing what looks like color banding/artifacts on them, both of them actually no matter how I calibrate it. None of the other profiles have this issue, and I've already done a calibration on the rec 709 profile which pre and post cal looks great and has no artifacts. Curious about what you think should be done?

[@colourist.]

I have noticed the same issue !!

[@jsardone]

was this ever solved?@@colourist.

[@colourist.]

in layman's terms ........ no

[@colourist.]

@@jsardone Not with the last firmware I tried. I ended up sending back the monitor in the end as the 500 nit clip was too limiting ... although it tracked an x310 and Eizo CG3145 I tested it against very nicely indeed ... VV Nice monitor but you get what you pay for after all!!!

[@davidmichaelvara]

Awesome review! Thanks so much!

[@james.telfer]

Still (!) waiting for a 32" 4k 120hz+ QD-OLED or similar that's rated for PC use... 😒

[@chillnspace777]

For real I don't have the room for anything bigger than a 32inch

[@he.lena21]

A 240Hz OLED with BFI. MY DREAM

[@kiisseli1337]

Still? QD-OLED came out this year

[@kivylius]

We need 120hz for game dev

[@frannyfranman]

All I want is MicroLED 😭 OLEDs are great but ABL drives me crazy. I always notice it. It’s nice that this monitor has a uniform brightness mode, but we’re long overdue for bright monitors with perfect blacks and no ABL

[@edragyz8596]

4:16 This is actually awesome to see. So many HDR displays will hit some nutty peak brightness and then fail to achieve anything remotely similar at 50%, which I regard to be the rough average % for HDR gaming. This can result, and does (THANKS MICROSOFT), in blown out detail without display-side tonemapping DESPITE the peak brightness being set correctly in game. HWUB's Neo G8 would do 1188 nits 10% but only 572 nits 50%, and a minimum of 320 nits 100%. HWUB's PG32UQX by contrast, would do 1742 nits 10% and a diminished (and therefore still problematic) but still impressive 1225 nits at 50%-100%.

[@helloguy8934]

I disagree. I do not think 50% is the average for gaming

[@edragyz8596]

@@helloguy8934 We are playing different games then. Nearly all of my games have blown out highlights at around 1000 nits, despite using a PG32UQX that ranges from 800 nits at 100% to 1565 nits at 10%. Regardless, if Windows allowed displays to tonemap like consoles do, I wouldn't be complaining right now.

[@helloguy8934]

@@edragyz8596 Consoles don't add any tonemapping. Whatever in-game settings were set are incorrect.

[@edragyz8596]

@@helloguy8934 I never said they did. The handshake between Windows and Monitor isn't working properly, causing display-side tonemapping to fail. Games should be set at 3500 nits on my unit, as they are on console, but on Windows any value above 800 on my unit can be blown out at a high enough window size.

[@helloguy8934]

@@edragyz8596 aw shit that sucks. No wonder why game hdr never looks right on that monitor. They didn't implement proper hgig. You're not using windows 11 are you? On a prior update it used to clip above the monitor's reported peak(from the edid).

[@One21P]

I liked what you said the last 3 seconds

[@SP95]

JOLED was such a great tech, it did not deserve to die

[@lucasn82_]

Its not die

[@RobertK1993]

Sony and Panasonic still make them

[@jordanfish]

I don't understand why none of these companies are adding SDI connections to this category of monitor. Charge an extra $500 and watch them fly off the shelves as production monitors.

[@edragyz8596]

Awesome review Vincent! Speaking of 32 inch Asus ProArt displays, when is the review of the PA32UCG going to release?

[@edragyz8596]

This is a joke... sort of?

[@cheekster777]

Thanks Vincent.

[@nokedapotta3753]

Hey Vincent thx for ur content. Its always fun to watch. In future could we expect a review on the hisense 65u81hq Mini LED? I hope so. Greets from Germany

[@dylandagoneau3642]

The PA32DC bring nothing new compared to the LG 32EP950 / 32BP95E which came out almost 2 years ealier. The LG already sustained 500+ nits at 50% window size, there are enough reviews out there that demonstrate it. And the "Uniform Brightness ON" is simply going back to SDR mode ... Let see what the PA32DCM could actually bring with the new JOLED panel.

[@YavNe]

There is an OLED version of Sony Reference Mastering Monitor that is called BVM-X300 V2 that is also 4K HDR. You should make your TV reviews, comparison videos using that one instead. And what about Panasonic's Reference Mastering Monitors? How fare do they against the BVM-HX310. You should make a comparison between the BVM-HX310 with the Panasonic's equivalent LCD Reference Monitor and between the BVM-X300 V2 with the Panasonic's best 4K OLED Reference Monitor.

[@JonPais]

No, Vincent should continue using the BVM- HX310. You want to buy him another monitor, go right ahead!

[@hdtvtest]

@Yav Ne: The Sony BVM-X300 (even the V2 version) has been discontinued since 2019, replaced by the Sony HX310 we currently use.

[@re-gaming3913]

How many different pairs of glasses do you actually have?

[@iulianmoga9410]

New HDMI 2.1 and USB cable for Sony Playstation 5 out and they push marketing so far with new performance . HDTV Test can you make a video about it ? :) Thanks you ! Pace from.Romania !

[@ammankalyan7460]

Can you do a video of the ipad pro 12.9 with ipados 16 in reference mode

[@YavNe]

Wait what? Why the setting that mimics the behavior of a reference mastering monitor is called "clipping?" And that the other 2 give more highlight detail? Shouldn't a reference mastering monitor provide the best highlight detail?

[@JonPais]

All professional reference monitors clip luminance values that exceed the capabilities of the display.

[@lewisevander]

Please review Toshibas mini led tv.

[@cocoGioia]

It’s incredible that we have display’s capable of reproducing 1000 nits or higher and producers of HDR and dolby vision content continue to set the maximum brightness to 200nits. It’s a shame and a waste of power from televisions

[@tecnogadgethd]

Hi Vincent 👋🏻. Any insider news about the future 2023 EU display consumption regulation with regard on how this will impact the NITS count of future displays ? Cheers

[@xm3405]

it will impact large size OLEDs and 8ks the most.

[@Username-qx9gk]

My guess is it will apply to displays sold for commercial use, such as standby energy saving features in enterprise scenarios and possibly retail signage/kiosks etc. Maybe also they shift the consumer efficiency rating scale to reflect the fact CFL backlights aren't a thing anymore

[@Username-qx9gk]

It only affects the "out of the box" default setting (the eye searing 'demo/vivid' mode used to compete on store shelves). So by default TVs will come with a better out of the box experience. People just leave the demo/vivid mode on all the time from day 1, which is dumb

[@b127_1]

Eh, most tv's already have a default eco mode that ruins everything. These new laws probably wont really do anything.

[@tecnogadgethd]

Imagine the manufacturers are enforced to nerf the TV’s by software update. That would be an absolute nightmare

[@pocketmoon]

but does it slowly rot pixels around the border ?

[@tafarimakonnan1763]

Do you see this monitor as true hdr at 530nits ?

[@Sydalesis]

I love this channel and I need help from tech gurus like you all. I have a 3080 since a while but using an old samsung 65 inch that's giving me basic HDR+ 60hz . It's been acceptable for my pc gaming needs but I am currently shopping for a 65-85 monitor that would allow me to do 120hz and perhaps gsync ? I know about the LGC1 and C2 as those are pretty expensive but what would you guys recommend for cybermonday or black friday or boxing day to replace this aging tv. I have noticed that tv makers are upping their quality and just would like a bang for my buck. What are the best new models that are 65-85inch 120hz gsync to allow my 3080 to use hdmi 2.1 finally ?

[@quaticus]

lg c1 or c2 like u said for 4k 120hz hdr gsync

[@BenedictChrysosthomos]

You should apply for the BBC Garden Rescue Team!

[@djayjp]

JOLED FTW

[@melxb]

looking nice

[@orhan4713]

Hello Vincent, I am writing to you from Turkey. My very important request from you is that if you let me know the Best Picture settings of Philips 65Oled+936 tv and especially the Best settings for the Blurred picture in Motion Scenes, I would like to thank you from Turkey. Please help me Vincent.🇹🇷

[@MonteMD]

Can you do a Sony M9 monitor review please :)

[@GregorMima]

So, you tink it´s about time to upgrade my old LG Plasma? 🙃

[@SaimesierP]

Where is the PA32UCG

[@simoSLJ89]

PLEASE can you put the product names in the titles, as you used to do before? THANK YOU!

[@zigadebenec8925]

Did you try to test Eizo cg319x?

[@bowang8468]

cg319x is very good for sdr

[@welshcaesar]

Top man.

[@PSYCHOV3N0M]

I don't really care too much about projectors BUT can you please do more projector reviews at various prices? I want to know what the best projectors are at different consumer price brackets. I trust YOU Vincent Teoh. 👍

[@rueagonvyceratops2879]

god dam video files ! i don`t care how the video image looks , as long as it looks good enough to me when watching.

[@AJJJ-co2vd]

Vincent, I have a technical question I'm hoping you can answer. I recently plugged a sound bar into my eArc port of the LG c1. I immediately noticed when gaming on my Xbox series x the picture became clearer,more detailed, smoother. Is it bc one HDMI cable is handling picture & the other one sound, so they each have more bandwidth available to transmit information? It was the only possibility I could think of but I'm not an expert. I would like to hear your thoughts and may make an interesting topic for a video

[@busterscrugs]

1:11 3480x2160? 🤨

[@flappospammo]

Nits in white satin

[@ygny1116]

My best OLEDs are in laptops, mine does 630nit full screen.

[@geneobrien8907]

Which laptop?

[@ygny1116]

@@geneobrien8907 Asus Zenbook

[@geneobrien8907]

@@ygny1116 My Lenovo 9i 4k OLED is only 400 nits, 650 is a lot better.

[@rdackn]

Could somebody deliver him the latest iPhone?

[@Izquierda]

Used to apple's displays that can do 1000nits full screen and 1600nits peak, less than 300 full screen and 500 max just doesn't feel like HDR anymore. And those tiny hoods on these monitors are a joke, they may help minimally with directly over head light, but that light will be bouncing from all the walls making the hood useless. You need one of those long funnel-like hoods with a small viewing window.

[@SimplySketchyGT]

Or just turn the lights off.......

[@Izquierda]

@@SimplySketchyGT If only it were that simple!

[@flamehiro]

Even worse case isn't too bad at 300 nits

[@lukashavel7690]

It would be amazing, if you could find the time and energy and review also the Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 and/or Neo G8! I think, that they are well worth it being good enough HDR monitors without any burn-in risks. ;)

[@haukionkannel]

If the motion clarity was good. How would this work as a gaming monitor? Not the fastest, but if the picture quality is good...

[@georgejones5019]

I play mostly solo adventure games. So a decent image quality over frame performance might he preferred for me as well.

[@gioldk4256]

i would recommend a smaller TV like sony A90k, it’s way cheaper and has a brighter oled screen.

[@haukionkannel]

@@gioldk4256 Yes, it is cheaper, but it is actually better for working documents and excel sheets and also be good for gaming...

[@mikemckee6583]

This is why I am still not interested in OLED. A good OLED picture is like a photograph from a high-end camera, but it just doesn’t have that sense of “being there” that a top quality LED TV can produce. LED’s ability to produce, and MAINTAIN very high peak brightness makes all the difference. Most TV experts have been saying (rightly) for a long time now that of the UHD technologies, HDR has more of an effect upon overall picture quality than 4K resolution does. Given that, I think that among the factors that affect HDR quality, peak brightness has more of an effect than other factors like percentage of total color space, for example. Sony talked about this for years, at least until they began pushing OLEDs as well. They explained the importance of not just color space, but color VOLUME. Color space is 2-dimensional, but color volume takes advantage of the ability to produce high peak brightness to not only produce a lot of colors, but also a much larger number of luminance values for those colors, expanding the overall color palette. I’ve seen plenty of examples of both technologies, and I’ll take NITs over “perfect blacks” every time. And that doesn’t even include the still remaining (though admittedly better) issues with OLED burn-in and the fact that even OLEDs are not entirely immune to blooming, due to how our eyes work.

[@christianj606]

Everyone can make their own choice in this, thats the good part of this hobby! Personally i choose color accuracy over brightness since i only watch in dark room.

[@BlueBillionPoundBottleJobs]

Back-light bleed and blurry motion are the absolute worst things in a tv for me. Even plasma looks better than LCD

[@Brandon_Mishima]

I would rather use an Oled with Black frame insertion on. That way I get all the benefits of Oled and the smoothness of Plasma.

[@renesandoval1454]

Wow your opinion reminds me of the movie Billy Madison "Everyone in this room is now dumber for having to listen to that thought"

[@mikemckee6583]

@@renesandoval1454 It’s all about color volume. OLEDS are initially impressive in the same way that vivid mode impresses some when they first get their new TV home, but their lack of peak brightness (which is getting better, but still nowhere near where it needs to be) leaves an OLED picture looking impressive, but a bit artificial to me. The deep blacks are nice, and per-pixel lighting is certainly where we all want TV technology to go, but the best LEDs have blacks that are very good (and ironically often have better shadow detail than OLEDS…color volume again) and their ability to reproduce the subjective feeling of “being there” is unmatched by OLED. HDR is where it’s at, and there’s no question that for the best HDR you need high peak brightness and the ability to sustain it without OLED’s additional flaw of dimming over time. The magic of HDR comes from blinding specular highlights that make outdoor scenes feel similar to real life, and the luminance headroom to expand the volume of colors available in lower-light scenes. Gravity looks great on OLED, I’ll give you that, but OLED’s “one weird trick” just isn’t as versatile as the ability to reproduce a broader volume of colors and to mimic real life lighting.

[@winnetou7529]

The price of $3500 is just not adequate and there are idiots working at Asus, and that's a fact.

[@x32i77]

4k is eye cancer . This monitor with 8k and OLED + HDR without a fan with dual display port 2.1 abd 144hz would be a dream. I would pay 5000$

[@generischgesichtslosgeneri3781]

Joled ist bankrupt...

[@MKR3238]

i heard rumours but is but is it certain now?

[@hdtvtest]

@Generisch gesichtslos Generisch: We never said JOLED is bankrupt... what we said was *potential* bankruptcy at 12:04 in this video.

[@aureliandumitru8382]

HOWEVER...3500$? Big pass!

[@haukionkannel]

It is cheap for pro monitor!

[@musguelha14]

It's a professional monitor. $3500 is a bargain.

[@georgejones5019]

Other pro monitors are like $8k. Lol

[@shahidvalli7853]

3rd

[@_ZIZO_XD]

first

[@cheekster777]

Not quite.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

He's literally only doing videos for the promotional product.. This channel has turned to crap, I'm out

[@hdtvtest]

@Art Vandelay: We still demonstrated all the shortcomings of the monitor (green-tinted greyscale & brighter-than-reference shadow detail out of the box, overbrightened HLG, etc.) in this unbiased review video, so it seems you either didn't watch the video, or have difficulty understanding it. :-)

[@mufana1]

@@hdtvtest Did you do any uniformity testing? Some reviews have reported poor colour uniformity of this panel on the LG 32EP950.

[@antipodezz]

@@mufana1 watch the video...

[@mufana1]

​@@antipodezz I did, lol. I´m not talking about the ill conceived name Asus picked for a manual brightness limiter ("Uniform Brightness"). Forget about that. That´s a "new" thing only applicable to oleds. The fact i also mentioned colour uniformity should´ve tipped you i wasn´t talking about what you thought off. Have you never seen a proper display review (in written or video form)? Luma or brightness uniformity: is the brightness distribution across the display even? How big are the brightness deviations relative to the center of the display? Chroma or colour uniformity: how big are the colour deviations across the display relative to its center? Get it?

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

@@hdtvtest I'm talking about the embedded Brilliant part....