‘HE IS NOT MY FATHER’ - Guilliman & Frator Mathieu

[@mikedicewrites]

I like to think Guilliman's rage here wasn't only at Mathieu but at everything the Imperium had become in his absence. Mathieu was just the face of it for him.

[@TypeZeta2]

Every time in the books Guilliman gets angry I feel the urge to feel Ashamed. Because Guilliman is one of the most level-headed primarchs in my eyes. Like I feel like if you ask him advice for a problem he will give you advice and has that, energy that makes you want to listen when he speaks because of his uprbringing. He’s a natural leader. But his rage… is by far the most terrifying due to his calm nature. Know No Fear and Plague War are my favorite examples of why you never EVER make Guilliman angry

[@ghostvexcon]

I just finished plague wars and dude.... gman really has a way of making you feel miniscule in the cosmos hearing the militant also cream his pants thinking about him dying by a primarch...I see why gman cant let the church blind him

[@darksol2519]

"I am the only living being to have spoken with the Emperor for 10,000 years..." Bjorn: excuse me?

[@Thought_Processing_]

In fairness he might not know who Bjorn is.

[@andraskovacs5431]

Hell Bjorn might actually be older than Guiliman. A decade most but still

[@alannatherson7721]

No one bothered to tell Bobby G Bjorn was still alive, if someone did those two would be hammering down enough mjod to refill the oceans of Terra together.

[@rungunninja1289]

To be fair, space wolves talking to an outsider is already pretty rare, them letting a primarch who they were not a 100 percent on anywhere near the fang, yeah

[@St1TcHinGMonk3y101]

Bjorn wouldn't have had nearly as much time with the Emperor within that 10,000 year as Guilliman did, Guilliman would've spoken with the Big E multiple times a year every year.

[@ryanhorne5379]

The way he says that the emperor is not his father is so important as it is how Mortarion and Angron feel.

[@joshv9295]

Could anyone really blame either of those two for falling the way they did after what the Emperor did to them? Even leaving Angrons “butchers nails” in when he could have damn well had them removed…

[@halfknight2310]

@@joshv9295 or hell, you know, saved his son's family

[@3adgamd3r]

@@joshv9295I mean, whilst what the Emperor did to Angron was screwed, he literally saved Mortarions life, had he not intervened Mortarion would’ve died to his chaos juice sucking foster father The irony being that Mortarion would one day become a slave to the same Chaos God his foster father worshipped is pretty much entirely lost on him though

[@andreasmuller4666]

@@joshv9295 nope he himself couldn´t have removed them without killing Angron. The nails very much sealed his fate from the beginning.

[@clayandros2038]

​@@joshv9295i find it annoying that people keep saying this, the emperor made it clear he couldn't remove the nails without killing angron because of how the slavers halfassed the surgery.

[@santiagochahin900]

Carefull guilliman. Remember what happen last time you try to teach a religious zelot a warning on religion.

[@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027]

Yeah, he turned out to be Chaos's best spokesman and the leader of it's choir behind Horus himself.

[@3adgamd3r]

To be fair this is exactly the reason why he didn’t kill Matthieu in the book, the dude was literally about to orgasm at the thought of being ended by Guilliman and it absolutely disgusted him because he knew that not only would Matthieu welcome the death with joy, but that by ending him he’d become a martyr

[@Scp-682-]

⁠@@3adgamd3rthat is some messed up stuff right there be the equivalent of someone being in complete excess because a original follow of Jesus was mad him him for thinking he new better.

[@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027]

@@3adgamd3r The politics of religion at work. The last time I saw something that complicated in the franchise was in the Priests of Mars books where the guy Ibrahim Locke basically became a mini-messiah figure on the Ark Mechanicus vessel - the Speranza. Since he was able to do things like open doors by communicating with the Machine Spirit in it or coaxing one last shot out of an antique gravity pistol his fellow enslaved crewman bartered for while Eldar invaders creeped up on them and a crowd of unarmed people. And of course awakening an archo-flagellant which are reserved pretty much Exclusively for high ranking Mechanicus Magi and the Inquisition.

[@Thatonenightlord40k]

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[@kevlonk]

"My lord, if I may--" *"YOU MAY NOT!"* It's easy to forget how terrible Roboute's anger is when it is roused-- a fact Lorgar discovered on Calth. You did a good job capturing the anger of a man who has been keeping it bottled up for centuries.

[@midasredblade236]

100 centuries

[@alternas7195]

He also snapped The Lion's sword when he bombed an ultramaran world

[@mar00nm4v2]

It sucks because you can tell bro really tried and TAX JESUS yelled at him

[@rocketpod1]

Tax Jesus 😂

[@terrildonaldson532]

The girl really did save the day, but Guillimans reservations about psykers are well founded and not really exaggerated. Tax Jesus? Really? He’s basically saving the imperium and y’all can’t ever give him any credit. It’s just lazy ass stuff like tax Jesus.

[@The_Musical_Cartograph]

"King Konor was my father" that hits so deep...

[@Thought_Processing_]

I have always been mildly irritated by that line as Konor was not a King he was a Consul.

[@V3n0mCa7na63]

The pain and frustration that is emanating from your words is better than anything on TV right now

[@joshv9295]

Right?? THIS is why 40K is the best thing going right now. 🤘

[@thecavalrygeneral3453]

I don't care how much mocap or cgi it takes, *this man* needs to play Guilliman.

[@AnimarchyHistory]

Fear the wrath of a good man.

[@brzinger6]

Or, rather, fear the wrath of men who think themselves righteous. Never trust a mother****** with a cause.

[@liamcorreia7929]

Stop streaming so early in the morning, it's not good for you

[@MansMan42069]

Now find me a good man

[@KRDecade2009]

@@liamcorreia7929he’s A*ssie

[@khylerbane4523]

Imagine if a broadcast vox to the planet was unknowingly left on during this exchange.

[@ryanexsus]

The crazy thing about this scene is it ACTUALLY WAS the Emperor taking over the girl, and Guilliman refuses to see it.

[@CainEverest]

Or he refuses to acknowledge it

[@tristanband4003]

​@@CainEverest I remain skeptical.

[@terrildonaldson532]

I think Guilliman should be given more credit. For one, his reservations about psykers isn’t unwarranted or exaggerated. A alpha class, or alpha+ class psykers could doom a planet in an afternoon. I think he privately knows full well, big E was there. But there is something important about sending a message to your subordinates about respect. The preacher lost all my respect when he ordered(hinted at) the sister to steal the girl out of custody. Even tho it ultimately turned out right, that’s treason. And exactly the excesses of zealotry the emperor warned of in “the last church”. In the third book, Guilliman totally gambled that big E would show up and save his neck. He knew he was going to lose to mortarion. His plan overall made no sense. He steps out on the field and calls mortarion out. The was only 1 logical conclusion and that was Guilliman getting a dose of God Blight. Guilliman had no guarantee big E would show. But he did it anyway. I’d say that’s a lot of faith on Guillimans part. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@bigbardvods]

I have to know what Girlyman thought about Celestine. I understand that Gulliman would know if the emperor’s presence had graced the battlefield but at the same time stuff has changed and it seems the emperor is closer to God hood than gulliman would think

[@visig0th152]

In this book he kinda ponders the idea and acknowledges the existence of Imperial Saints. He rationalizes them as extremely powerful psykers who's manifestations are influenced by their faith, but is only barely starting to entertain the possibility of the Emperor being the source of their power.

[@connorcmsmith4302]

@@visig0th152where he has the conversation with the Farseer about what the Emperor has become. How it isn’t the practise of worship but the belief people have and after 10,000 years that belief is starting to influence the warp and thus spill into real space

[@logosofgame4273]

Guilliman is not infallible, he can be just as dogmatic about certain things as the Ministorum.

[@bigbardvods]

@@connorcmsmith4302 while I do understand what you mean butIt seems like you’re saying that it’s not emperor worship that’s making him divine, it’s emperor worship. No matter how you cut it it seems like humanity actions are empowering the emperor

[@connorcmsmith4302]

@@bigbardvods it’s the idea that all the pomp the burning ect is unnecessary the simple belief in the emperors power is empowering him, G man even express that he feels stronger as the primarchs are worshipped. It could also explain why Sangunius’s soul shards are still chilling around as he’s probably the second most revered individual second only to the emperor. Faith has nothing to do with it you can be a believer in the emperors power and not be a fanatical muppet. I believe that’s what the Farseer was trying to get across to gman during there conversation

[@12coudak000]

The Emperor understood faith/afterlife more than anyone, but because he knew it could be misinterpreted and made an evil out of it, he chose to deny it.

[@mar00nm4v2]

...then he made one for his special lil guys 😊

[@yopoxikeweapescai9066]

Always wonder if the crusade emperor would agree with the 40k emperor (having all the information on what has happened to himself) machinations as a proper god

[@lceidolon]

Problem was that He failed to consider the primordial need that many (many) humans have to seek something and/ or someone to believe in. In reality, His own lack of humanity made Him oblivious to how people are. His was an interesting idea, but one not suited for the masses and He was naive to think He could change all mankind.

[@jameskillbot2867]

Because no matter how great you are Iceidolon, there is always one greater.

[@soundcloudpandapandawa2997]

Hence why he quite literally and metaphorically ripped the caring, maternal, loving part of himself out. If he didn't he would've died trying to save Horus from the Chaos Gods, also supposedly there's rumors about that part of the Emperor actually saving enough of Horus's soul for him to be revived later on. Just like you said the Emperor cared too much, and cared too little later on in the run. A lesson he has learned painfully, now Guillamen and the Star child is the Imperium's hope now imo.​@@lceidolon

[@Kolossus_]

The power and authority radiates through his voice. Would love to see him read the books in audio book form

[@alexmccutcheon10]

The conversation between Ufthak Blackhawk and the Dark eldar imprisoning him would be perfect. Its in The Big Dakka

[@primary2630]

Ya between him and archon dhaemira. I just finished that audiobook yesterday it was awesome

[@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027]

Guilliman again getting a taste of what the Emperor had to deal with wholesale with Lorgar and the Word Bearers. But in this case it was a battle that stood at a knife's edge with that girl psyker being either damnation or salvation. But simultaneously the fight to wrest humanity's need to pray and blame any sort of unknowing or unseeable being was probably always an impossible one. Deeds and Words aren't enough, and the Inquisition isn't all powerful either if they weren't also believers in the Emperor's divinity or at least knew from their manipulative places of power as agents of the Imperium that faith in Big E was good as a control tool. And you honestly can't look at the literal Miracles, like Guilliman and El'Johnson's resurrections as anything more than the will of an actual godlike being. Who extends his power across vast oceans of stars as if he were sending a simple vox message. At this point it almost doesn't matter what the Emperor is. But I do understand Robuté's anger at this “priest militant” for allowing such a foolhardy risk. Yet.... He himself knows the Emperor works in mysterious ways. His orders are clear but his actions are never so. If he wasn't on the Golden Throne and instead a fully realized Warp entity rivaling all 4 major Chaos Powers by himself, there'd be nothing the Lord of Ultramar could do to contradict That kind of Faith. And I Felt all of that in every word here. Now I really want there to be more audiobooks with this kind of delivery from the characters. Especially when they're arguing or being “talked to”. Like the Tau being berated by the Ethereals if they step even a centimeter out of line because of their fear of them ending up like Commander Farsight and becoming a true-blue rebel of their own empire. With him taking in anyone who starts to wake up to the fact that similar to the Emperor, the Ethereals are and have likely always been lying to them as a way to maintain order. And if they weren't entirely lying, they were still more than likely hiding things That would probably help their people out a lot. Like not trusting the actual evil space elves. Lol

[@hexfart4562]

Amazing work and masterfully done with all the rage of guilliman made manifest

[@nicholaspayne2912]

Brilliantly done and deeply compelling. I am now terrified of Guilliman. Ledgendary stuff.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

It is one hell of a scene - a genuinely decent and reasonable, rational (in so far as the grim darkness of the far future allows for rationality) man (well, transhuman superman, but still) besieged by blind superstitious fanaticism in all its bloody, brutal excess, and yet he knows that he needs the very fanatics that he despises if he is going to save humanity. No wonder Roboute Guilliman secretly dreams about a quiet life as a rural farmer away from the pressures of guiding the entire species and protecting it from not just the darkness that stalks humanity from without, but also from the unthinking ignorance that mars it from within.

[@juliuscesarbatul8424]

The fact that the priest was able to argue with a primarch goes to show how patient rowboat g is.

[@khylerbane4523]

This speech is something the Black Templars *Desperately* need to be told. By Robute, Lion, or even Dorn.

[@highchaplain0786]

You speak blasphemy brother. You will be added to the pires with the rest of the heretics 😠 The crusade will never end. Praise be....in His name 😅

[@tarn1135]

They’d only listen to Dorn. They’d nod and give platitudes and obey big blue and the lion but I think they’d either, at best, say ok I understand but at worst they’d yell that big blue and/or the lion were heretics and start a civil war. Hell we already saw them start one with that crusade fleet that killed all the primaris and that custodies. I mean sure they all died in the end but that was just a taste of the fanatical way of the black Templars

[@jeremiahsrandomness1692]

But wasnt the girl actually being possesed by the enperor?

[@Ragnarra]

@@jeremiahsrandomness1692she was possessed by something that’s for sure. The dark king perhaps?

[@jeremiahsrandomness1692]

@@Ragnarra of course it was vague and undescriptive...

[@LahLahMan]

I don't even see an actor acting when I watch this, I imagined myself in that scene with Guilliman & Frator Mathieu as you spoke. F'ing awesome dude.

[@DomT-y3r]

Beautiful day outside AND a voice over? Great start to the day

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you so much!!

[@John-d8p]

I don't know how to say this without sounding pompous but this is what I call *PERFECTION!!*

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you!

[@John-d8p]

@@NaturallyRPVoiceover 🙂

[@abdelrahmanelsherbiny5434]

One of the few exchanges in the dark imperium series I loved reading. Your portrayal of his rage was on point to what I imagined. Amazing work!

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you!

[@KimberPrime]

I just read this book a few days ago, hearing your version of this conversation has been amazing

[@83Zaccrow]

This was great! The passion, the anger really showed through

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you!

[@TheLagendex]

I’d like to listen to the very last exchange between Guilliman & Mathieu. On his deathbed

[@alexandermcgovern1471]

This held true wrath and anger towards the foolish man

[@Keklan572]

Guilliman is the opitimy of fear a man who is slow to anger.

[@teldranwen]

Epitome*

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

2:50 my favorite part

[@Reoh0z]

You can lead someone to information, but you can't make them think.

[@Diana2112Gaming]

Oh my giddy aunt... That gave me chills. I can't even... Describe my feelings right now. I can't put into words what you reading that makes me feel. I need to hear you read anything with Túrin Turambar. Anything at all.

[@cw3058]

One of my favorite ever books. I have no idea about voice acting or acting and the voice acting in the actual audio book is spot on but you some how make it more emotional. Well fucking done sir. It gives it such a different yet better feel

[@ryanadams0922]

Steller preformance as always the music was a very nice touch. Good selection for this performance.

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Kriloth]

Really well done! Only thing I wish could somehow be conveyed is the subtle self flagellation that Mathew puts himself through. The moment when Guilliman realizes with pure disgust is one of my favorite parts of the book.

[@terrildonaldson532]

One of my absolute favorite parts of the book series. Not just because of what Guilliman says, but also the custodes. It’s a part I wish he would have covered as well. The custodes flat tells the priest before he leaves “Guilliman can not kill you, but I’m under no such restrictions! Lol

[@terrildonaldson532]

Agreed. I loved that part!

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

Itcwas this interaction that gained Papa Smurf my respect.

[@David13579]

“There are lies” goes insanely hard This is amazing man, thank you

[@optionallemon9262]

God your acting is utterly perfect. You DESERVE to be in a live action 40k adaptation. Bravo, man

[@TheSpicyLeg]

You are criminally underrated at your craft, imo. Should be a 100k channel.

[@peris_arts_film9699]

The reverb on your voice. I envision guillimam wearing his helmet. All that rage covered by the helm of an Astartes

[@mystuff9999]

This is the content that makes want to further delve into 40k lore ❤

[@gdept88]

Your voice with the alteration is exactly how a primarch should sound: familiar yet alien.

[@Bboyblak8]

It takes a lot to bring Guilliman to this level of anger. That priest dodged a hell of a bullet there.

[@sircashew1097]

This was one of my favorite dialogues in the setting. Thank you for doing it! Sometime in the future would you be willing to read Loken’s story about the death of Sejanus from the very beginning of Horus Rising? Keep up the excellent work!

[@jonathanryan9946]

Poor Guilliman. All his points are valid but he's as blind to the reasons the Emperor had for the Imperial Truth, as the Priest is to how the warp works. Guilliman simply wasn't taught by the Emperor that the Imperial Truth was to starve chaos of worship. Just as he doesn't know his soul basically is of a minor warp god.

[@Rift93]

Chaos doesn't need worship to be what they are. As long as there is war, trickery, decay, and excess, so too will the gods of the warp exist.

[@Sir_Olorin]

Damn, I loved this scene in Plague War and you really did it justice, amazing work man!

[@jackelegman2101]

Okay, now you have to do his words on the experience of the Emperor reviving him from Mortarion.

[@gaebi]

4:40 Damn, imagine being a priest and hearing the literal child of your deity demounce his creator as a father 😂

[@genoveus]

Good god! The effort and love this was made with is just amazing! This is what I was expecting when I was playing SPACE MARINE 2; I really wanted to meet Guilliman, even if it was just through a radio commanding us during side objectives.

[@marethyu7593]

I’ve been waiting for a LONG time for you to do this one

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Hope you liked it!!

[@ChiefLibrarianLothric]

This part of the book was already really powerfull. But damn, this is great. Nice work yet again.

[@Grummur]

Dude thank you so much for posting the full clip. Epic stuff

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

No problem!

[@lonespartan3209]

The amount of money I would pay to see this man voice future Warhammer novels or dramas is unending

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Woah!! Thank you.

[@DoneBrokeDatBack]

This gave me chills. Fantastic work, my friend.

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@fistonpiston]

Masterful as always. Never get tired of these

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@jakeszig]

I loved this part of the book and I also loved how Matthew redeems himself in Guiliman’s eyes later on.

[@fosphor8920]

that may be the best 'you disgust me' i have ever heard :o

[@bluedogguy]

Always, always so good. Look forward to all your warhammer vids.

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Glad to hear it!

[@tylerschofield]

Fantastic scene and a fantastic reading of it! Love your 40k readings man.

[@PNWSurvivor]

fantatsic! okay i'm inspired now. thanks for bringing my primarchs anger to life. i go to paint my minis. for the 13th for Mcragge for Guilliman

[@MrEvan312]

He looks at Mathieu and sees only one symptom of Imperium's internal degradation. Guilliman was born to fix and optimize things, and good lord did he inherit a god-forsaken mess.

[@leoalmaraz8715]

This is the best part of plauge war

[@tokukeitaro]

I like that you have modulated the primarchs voice to show his superhumanity

[@antoinemoine9259]

Incredible acting, I loved it !

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you so much!!

[@chaosXP3RT]

1) The voice acting here is just phenomenal! I could almost believe you were two different people! Bravo! 2) It's crazy how Mathieu and Guilliman are both right, but so far from understanding. The writing here is really good! Guilliman and the Imperial Truth doesn't understand faith, and its relationship with the Warp at all. The Imperial Cult doesn't understand the Warp, but they do understand faith in the Emperor.

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Wow, thank you!

[@soulminiatures7387]

What chasm it must have wrought into Guillimans heart to see the Emperor's work perverted like this. A dream He has fought, killed and bled for, shattered by the ignorance the master of mankind sought to banish from humanity for centuries. What anguish it must be to know that even He, Roboute Guilliman, Primarch of the XIII, one of the mightiest beings that ever walked this galaxy is powerless to stop the darkness that has engulfed our kind once more and yet has to fight ever onward. How would the Emperor weep If He could....

[@tomatoglider]

It's superbly done, I would love more Guilliman going against the Imperial Cult

[@WeableSplash]

Dear god, that was brilliant!

[@createdmanpainting]

Outstanding performance 🔥🔥🔥

[@mikelawrence1876]

Wow!!! Just wow!!

[@calob3927]

When I watch your videos I now picture inquisitor Gregor Eisenhorn 😂

[@KingOfAllLore]

Great job as always. 👍 👍

[@zagreus3347]

I have been a huge of you ever since I listened to the sons of the emperor anthology it was amazing

[@thehippie3610]

Absolutely sensational.

[@grubbythefarmer2417]

Man you are a great orator. I closed my eyes and it felt like Bobby G was hear chewing that priests ass in my backyard. Goosebumps.

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Thank you so much!!

[@KaijuKiller76]

This man needs to be in the TV show

[@realsupercobble]

The I love this. That he saw The Emperor as not his father, but the man who raised him as his dad. Cause when the Emperor spoke to G-man, he heard the mix of words, just as Sanguinius did. My son/tool. My light/last hope. G-man has become on of my favorites in recent times, because he truly is human, and he values people. He hates what the imperium became, and that he can’t do anything about it lest the very imperium turn upon him.

[@kylebooker1987]

good god that was entertaining as hell.

[@twenty-fifth420]

I like to think Rowboat Garageman was ‘venting’ to ‘Matthew’ was a stand in for the ‘fans’ venting to ‘Matt Ward’ lol 😂. When you do, and knowing the history of the Ultramarines, it makes the writing at least 400 times more hilarious.

[@billyb7607]

Absolute class

[@maximum-stupid5976]

That chewing out was three books in the making.

[@lukeb5453]

Dude you do such a fucking good job with these! Always such a pleasure to watch, keep it up, you're really talented. I hope that one day you get the recognition you deserve and that in the process, I get to enjoy many more of these. Cheers!

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Wow, thank you!

[@chrishamilton7516]

“Son, Don’t get me wrong. I love the speech however this time that was definitely me. I’m sorry.” ~ Emps

[@bobbinsgaming3028]

Need to get you playing a prominent role in Cavill's 40k universe dude, you've got the build for it!

[@SanguineDoe]

The voice distortion makes me imagine this whole thing happened while Guilliman had his helmet on. Which sounds freaking terrifying

[@ChronusPhoenix]

Oh wow, that was good!

[@howieb4217]

Great work dude! 🤜🤛

[@NaturallyRPVoiceover]

Appreciate it!

[@davidgencher4227]

You should do the speech Conrad Kurze gives before his death in Night Haunter

[@bogyboom7093]

Man i pray to every god, even the gods of chaos to let u voice over a warhammer audiobook

[@davidpoole7098]

Sons of the Emperor It's an anthology of primarch stories. A couple of his videos are portions, like his Kahrn "I will not lose myself" monolog

[@czak11blind11]

So much anger! Great

[@knightzix_01]

i can feel Guilimans kindness in his words when i read the novel his anger is for the innocents that were taken from us Frater mathieu is a fanatic idiot you dont cross a primarch

[@AlphariusandOmegon]

This scene is a fascinating parallel to an arguement the Emperor himself had with Ollanius Perrson a catholic perpetual whom had walked the earth most likely longer than the emperor himself yet still held to his old world catholic beliefs. Oll makes an unbelievably long and perilous pilgrimage to get face to face with the Emperor that takes him from the start of the heresy all the way to its final climatic battle, where he comes to learn that the Emperor has pulled so much of the warp's power into himself that he is undergoing apotheosis into a 5th chaos god, that prophecies called the Dark King. The machinations of the four chaos gods only become clear as their scheme reaches its zenith and they make their final move. It turns out the four outplayed the Anathema (the name the neverborn have given to the emperor) they used Horus as a pawn to put the Emperor into a lose, lose scenario. In order to beat Horus with the power the gods had bestowed upon him, the emperor would have to reach his full potential by drinking deep the powers of the warp, pulling more warp energy into himself than he had ever done before, drawing every bit of the warps malignant energies into himself that he could. He drew so much of the warps power into himself that it began to change him, corrupt him and remake him into the Dark King, the fifth god of Chaos. So Oll finds the Emperor in the midst of the Siege of Terra and confronts him, demanding to know why he has chosen to become exactly what he always refused to allow himself to become. Why it was alright for him to throw away his principles, his lifes work, the work he and Malcador had sacrificed everything for. It was the final plea on behalf of Malcador that was able to pierce the hurricane of psychic energies being drawn into what was quickly turning from the Emperor into the Dark King. It was the thought of his oldest friends final sacrifice, taking his place on the Golden Throne, the sacrifice he made to save their dream for mankind and as a final gesture of the fraternal love Malcador had for his Emperor. However that apotheosis wasn't truly stopped only delayed, as with all things involving the gods of chaos they are eternal, beings for which the passage of time is meaningless. The Emperor is becoming the 5th Chaos God within the warp, whether he likes it or not. The question is, did 10,000 years of loving devotion and worship nourish him with a power that can be used for the betterment of Mankind or is the Dark King still destined to be a malignant force of Chaos within the emperyian? Looking at the warp entities the Emperor creates with the powers he bestows, suggests he will be a god of order, perhaps even light but only time and the whims of Games Workshop can give us that answer.

[@tanakalight]

What i love about this scene is both party's are effectively correct It is highly likely it was big E who acted But likely the twsed warp version of him born out faith of a billions of people Something Gman has likely not factored in, but also he is completely correct that such actions are insanely risky because in the same breath it could have been anything. This poor man of logic and science has awaked into a world where faith is a tangible real force and he simply can't ignore it and its clearly driving him nuts

[@kevinsari1699]

Guilliman rageing is Something else

[@TheSquareheadgamer]

Must be wild to have an archangel tell you not only is god not god but he hates you

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Targutai Yesugeis Sacrifice - Path of Heaven or Jangsai dialogue with his fellow planetary kinsmen about his truth

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If it was Lion or Russ, that guy would be a modern art in an instant