He Wasn't Supposed To Win This Beef...

[@Faust_YT]

Dude mastered the "don't interrupt your enemies when they're making mistakes" move.

[@ScientObject40]

Straight up stole Napoleon's flow.

[@crusaderkaiser2000]

@@ScientObject40 Napoleon will never recover from this

[@juaquintiscareno]

@@crusaderkaiser2000there’s nothing we can do to recover *music plays in background*

[@noxplay4906]

Because he's not trying to virtue-signal and grandstand and silence people who disagree with him, unlike those woke content creators

[@hideoeduardokojima8340]

​@@ScientObject40Bar

[@Kclanks]

"If they 4v1'd you, would you lose?" Think before you sleep: "Nah, I'd win."

[@A.Froster]

These Braindead lobotomy memes are just the best

[@kingvonafterdark]

Nah i'd think.

[@SMCwasTaken]

​@@A.Froster I wish I had a lobotomy

[@ambi_cc8464]

He thought before he slept fr fr

[@KfcOwner]

"If those 4 has used all of their fans and friends would you lose" "It would be a little mind numbing" "But would you lose" "Nah id win"

[@scratchykoala545]

Bro legit clutched a 4v1 against some of the worst breadtubers. Mad respect.

[@exiledkenkaneki701]

Ludwig isn't anywhere near bad, tf you mean by worst bread tubers, bro legit cool

[@tomnguen4200]

@@exiledkenkaneki701literally newspeak

[@juanrollel3693]

@@exiledkenkaneki701 he is slowly becoming one them, he is so fucking unfunny doe that i hate when he is with jerma he just isnt even funny

[@SMCwasTaken]

Conservatives: "facts don't care about your feelings" Also Conservatives: NOOO LEAVE THE FETUS ALONE 😢😢😢

[@xoxoxovaivaivai]

@@exiledkenkaneki701lol, cope.

[@mortsartstudio9403]

Its so weird hearing TBYS talking normally, honestly one of my top 10 KZbinrs

[@Zewind]

I was 50% sure he was an ai voice model before this video

[@lenk1432]

He kind of sounds like destiny

[@EzraMerr]

Same same

[@notajaxon9476]

Yeah I was just thinking that

[@helladaniel]

I thought it was destiny for the first half of the video

[@gnarwhal7562]

TBYS is extremely wise for his age. I watch his content for 2 reasons: 1) Him dunking on self-absorbed morons is hilarious & 2) Offering genuinely GOAT'd life advice

[@effix9097]

Seriously, his advice from videos helped me majorly in the past couple years of my body transformation.

[@bacon-sandwich4726]

how old even is the guy?

[@voxlknight2155]

​@@bacon-sandwich4726 Well, he said Hasan is younger than him, and Hasan is in his mid thirties.

[@OhSeeBarber]

75​@@bacon-sandwich4726

[@effix9097]

@@bacon-sandwich4726 Late 20s to early 30s, it sounds.

[@sergeantsapient]

I've been watching TBYS for years. I'm glad to see his presence growing.

[@saucecollector]

for real

[@Pappycap74]

YES

[@exiledkenkaneki701]

"me hate lefitst propaganda but me love right wing propaganda"

[@Pappycap74]

@@exiledkenkaneki701 I didn't hear any propaganda

[@Kclanks]

@@exiledkenkaneki701 "Anything I disagree with is propaganda regardless of how much evidence may be behind it!!!!!x

[@DjDeadpig]

Major respect that even with the whole of the cult of bread after him, he continues and responds like a champ.

[@youbadatdagame8417]

Do not confuse my holy bread followers with these "bread tubers" you speak of

[@Antonious_jeffer]

Those "bread tubers" are rich streamers who have benefited from the "capitalism" they "despise"

[@rarescevei8268]

​@@Antonious_jefferHasan said that the assets of all rich people should be confiscated, even though he has millions of dollars.

[@juaquintiscareno]

@@rarescevei8268Hassan always acts so goofy when he hates on rich people like”no guys I’m actually on your side”

[@slygamer136]

​@juaquintiscareno 'streaming is harder than a real job' 'capitalism sucks' yet this man profits mad off this easy content and doesnt have to do much 'hard work'. Hassan is just a rich boy whos out of touch with people much like XQC (the stream he stayed silent when he had maids come in and clean his pigsty live)

[@TP-op9bb]

Noah Samsen was absolutely destroyed by a youtuber called Patience Xina about a year ago when he responded to a video she made about Hollywood race-swapping. It was incredibly satisfying.

[@Gerald-of-Riviera]

Noah takes L after L, which isn't so surprising when you're friends with Hasan or Ethanisonline

[@HavianEla]

Dude called a black woman a white supremacist. I was PISSED. He claims to be “anti-racist”, and I’ve found that crowd to be EXTREMELY racist by speaking over actual colored people! They have so much white guilt that they end up being MORE racist, dismissing colored people who try to call them out on bigotry.

[@joniboi3699]

I remember that video, I'd never seen someone get called out so hard before 😂

[@Zer0Spinn]

Ah, yes, I love Patience, my future ex-wife.

[@sweethistortea]

I remember that.

[@averyvanderlouw1193]

Think before you sleep’s greatest strength is that he’s very patient and technical. I wish more people on the internet were like that because it’s annoying seeing opinionated creators not being able to back up their claims. Conservatives are just as guilty as this before anyone says it’s just the left

[@jerBear033]

Yeah you not wrong. Like I can admit that both the left and right do some stupid crap when it comes go response and research. And I lean more on the right so

[@donnatello3906]

Honestly its just anyone whos past a certain point in either direction

[@dogeboithedoomslayer]

it is typically the left (left as in breadtubers)

[@Neoniq41]

It's hard being patient when the left constantly insults and dehuminizes you as a person lol

[@0redfr0g0]

​@dogeboithedoomslayer On the right there is the Nick Fuentes, Milo types (which have lost some popularity but they used to be pretty big.)

[@pillznarRy]

TBYS is the actual GOAT of this youtube thing. ive gained an insane amount of respect for him. awesome you had him on Acheeto!!!!

[@Natej3ds]

Facts, it's dope to see him getting the respect he deserves put on his name like this!

[@Seiven2077]

What is this debate? Does anyone has a link to watch

[@CaramujoDaLeste]

@@Seiven2077 you could start by watching TBYS's "How people are being radicalized" video if you don't wanna go through the whole thing

[@Seiven2077]

@@CaramujoDaLeste thanks, got it

[@dogdicer1153]

"Of this youtube thing" as if youtube hasnt been around for over half of your life.

[@Apollyon-OES]

He ain't think before you sleep, he's Cook Before you Sleep

[@mattryangomez3618]

Cook, eat, clean before you sleep

[@noxplay4906]

@@mattryangomez3618 Is that a Brock Lesnar reference

[@WarrickAuthor]

Let him cook!

[@DOCTO5]

Fellow thleeper

[@def3ndr887]

Give bro access to the gourmet kitchen

[@TellTailTales]

Bro clutched 4v1. Mad respect 🫡

[@Pedro_Ferrandi]

He obliterated them with facts and logic and made it look easy.

[@holdupsomethingaintright7919]

Clutched? He was already winning since the beginning lmao. Their sheer numbers just delayed the inevitable.

[@windowstechsupport3562]

Ludwig bout to upload “Why I was wrong” and “Why streaming IS harder than a normal job!”

[@malicekerendu3574]

He actually did make that second one after hasan got mad at him

[@kreenbopulusmichael7205]

@@malicekerendu3574 these people are so lame its sad to think so many kids look up to them

[@burtreynolds8030]

@@kreenbopulusmichael7205it is sad but I makes sense, the mainstream twitch world is just high school for adults, so naturally actual high schools are going to eat it up, it’s the same reason why high school musical did so well, even though it’s a horrible movie

[@nom6758]

he actually did. He glazed hasan after re-uploading.

[@Insitika]

@@malicekerendu3574 Hasan did? can you explained to me how and what his video was rely about/centered about? If that's not too much to ask or anyone else can explain.

[@tmbpotatoe5975]

Tbh i think one of the reasons think before you sleep is so likeable and undestable is he's calmness like he makes you lower your guard and actually listen to what he's saying, a.k.a. he's good to listen to.

[@CalsGirl97]

His tone of voice is friendly and chill, makes it easy to hear what he has to say

[@angel_of_rust]

not to mention he never forgets to highlight how important it is to do proper research, that shit always gets taken for granted.

[@kaiserfakinaway5909]

I think the main reason is that he's willing to listen to the other side. Doesn't matter if he likes them or not, he'll listen and also try his best to put a few compliments as well. I respect that. I don't like his overly aggressive tone sometimes but hey you can't agree with everything about someone yk?

[@YoutubeStyleChannel]

The sports thing is super accurate. It's common to get into the oppositions face, start fights, say shit to them etc, but the second the games over you shake their hand. It's honestly some kind of phycological warfare to get into someone's head, make them angry so they play worse.

[@ChucksSEADnDEAD]

Roberto Duran famously got into Sugar Ray's head in the prefight build up to bait him into a slugfest where Duran had the upper hand. In the second fight Ray showed up calm and collected to get the W. One of my favorite boxing tales.

[@antoniomosley9410]

​@ChucksSEADnDEAD Ah the No Mas fight. And Rumble in the Jungle is another great example.

[@galaxyvulture6649]

It depends on the sport and how parasocial the fan is. Usually it I'd exactly how you said. If you want to see a real crap storm check out mma fans specifically sean strickland (he's the guy who beat up sneako), khabib, or conor McGregor fans. Really crazy with sean strickland bc it's hot rn and it's kinda like a cult where they'll defend any messed up thing he says, but the second someone gives him the same energy they go crazy hating on the other person.

[@juliushall8499]

@@galaxyvulture6649cause he stands up to the leftist weirdos. Now I haven’t seen anybody that actually criticized him get any flak for it but you can prove me wrong I hope

[@galaxyvulture6649]

@@juliushall8499 You definitely gotta look a little. He went after khalil roundtree for opening up about his depression then was a douche about it. Made fun of a woman who died saying they wouldn't fit to be in the ufc since she couldn't dodge that bus. Says more kids need to be beat like full on alcoholic rage beating, but then cried when dricus said he was gonna beat him worse than their dad (yes I know sean was abus). Says you never should go after people's loved ones and yet he went after Ian's wife unprovoked and then when she responded he tried to play the victim while at the same time high roading. Complained about influencers and andrew tate and now he's trying to act the exact same way as sneako and tate. Man that dricus situation was so dumb bc he wanted to actually off dricus bc he gave him the same energy and then he went on a long pity party on twitter and theo von's podcast. Then his fans will be so mad if you say his style is boring, call him out, or disagree with the ddp fight decision. Like there's a lot more, but I'm lazy.

[@The_Original_TP]

Think Before You Sleep kicks ass, I’ve been watching him for years and is one of my favorite channels

[@jh-fl6to]

ur banned

[@sgtjrwhopper]

Agreed he’s got very solid analytical takes, and can admit when he’s wrong.

[@levibull6063]

Been watching him for a while aswell Seems like a decent guy him and upper echelon gamers have got to be top favorites

[@The_Original_TP]

@@jh-fl6to your banned

[@DanielBMS]

I would love to see him lose. So many KZbinrs lately IllyMation are not even able to accomplish being fair.

[@harry_hydrogen]

To clarify the Joji/filthy Frank comment, he ended up quitting years before the rest due to a stress seizure disorder. Pink guy, recognition, and stress lead up to constant seizures which caused him to slow down alot

[@loserinasuit7880]

He also didn't set his audience on fire when he left. He cited his mental health and most people were sad to see him go but understood. Even as Joji he'll occasionally mention the FF persona and the fans who know the "lore" regarding Joji.

[@ExeErdna]

@@loserinasuit7880 FF/Pink/Juji didn't really leave, it was just a sidestep he simply grew where others rotted. We see him tossing in a little frank/pink guy nod in some songs. Like we all know it's there yet it isn't good to be that all the time.

[@loserinasuit7880]

@@ExeErdna It left he just didn't torch his old audience. I preferred the Filthy Frank stuff over Joji because it's just not my style of music. But I don't hold him in contempt like I do Idubbbz because he didn't try to sell me down river and call me a shit human being.

[@varnix1006]

Dude went through true growth, same with Pewdiepie, he's not doing screaming gaming videos anymore and calmed down a lot without calling out his old persona as something negative.

[@harry_hydrogen]

@@varnix1006 Joji is the best example of completely changing your whole shtick and maintaining your fan base. He still respects is Franku fans but is very clear about Franku being dead.

[@RiskyyTR1]

Acheeto and Think Before you sleep collab video there is no amount of foresight that could have seen this coming.

[@legoboy7107]

I saw it coming as of the past couple days or so because in a recent...idk video clipped from a stream or something, TBYS was apparently in Acheeto's chat and Acheeto specifically called his name, but yeah prior to that I would have never thought about this happening.

[@Natej3ds]

There's not, but I like it and hope to see more of it!

[@DaShoopdahoop]

"We outnumber you, 4 to 1" TBYS: Then it's a fair fight.

[@huntergman8338]

*Halo music plays*

[@prathitprasad]

DOOM Slayer theme plays

[@RareDust76753]

He has infinite layers in Gokuversal

[@Box-O-Soldier]

*"I like those odds."*

[@TheEnvixity.]

Think You Before Sleep

[@lizardking5210]

Can’t believe y’all missed his ass saying he was “gonna come to your house and have sex with your dog” 18:18 💀like bro what lol

[@zama1861]

☠️

[@CrazedKen]

AY YO the hell

[@sergeantsapient]

That's just what inspired Vaush.

[@Vrpelican]

I was confused why they didn’t say anything

[@NeoN-PeoN]

LMAO what the hell? Good catch..... I guess.

[@Divine1999-b6p]

TBYS can be summed up by Snoop Dogg's iconic quote "This Mo-Fo don't miss. in the heat of battle he don't miss, in the heat of *controversy* don't miss!"

[@jerrym1218]

Despite how I feel about Think Before You Sleep, I actually respect how he stood up to some of the worst lefty breadtubers head on as they tried to gank him.

[@catsotorious]

Agreed!! Except I like his videos, I just dont always agree with everything but I respect that his opinions are atleast so well thought out and educated, even in the cases that I dont agree.

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

​@SyureK13 but he's mostly spot on. Like a 90% accurate

[@catsotorious]

@@sonicthehedgehog1606 I agree! And I find that watching him even when I don't agree (which isn't very often, but you can't agree with everyone all the time) it's never on the facts, only on opinion, because he is pretty accurate and actually parses through the info with an acedemic view. And his opinion shows me a different perspective and challenges my own opinion on those certain things which has helped me in a lot of ways to grow as a person or to change my opinions on certain things I realize I may not have had a sturdy well-thought-out opinion on myself. Facts over feelings is important!! He's doing the work!!

[@someperson9998]

@@sonicthehedgehog1606 Completely disagree. Although that's probably because we have essentially opposite ideologies.

[@sonicthehedgehog1606]

@@someperson9998 cool, don't care

[@Shhiintaro]

It wasn't only a 4v1, considering that the people who participated had co workers or people who helped them making research, he prob won at least a 8v1

[@peterparker6669]

7v1, Hasan doesn't do research.

[@crem44]

4v1 is a big understatement, just look at all 4 of those people’s supporters, you can even see in their stream chats, theyre all against him and he still got out with minimal damage. The reason is that he provides good rebuttals, most of the opposing viewers will pick up in the streamer’s habits and go into making fun of stuff like his voice rather than actually listening to what he has to say.

[@voltron8375]

​@@peterparker6669 no lefty actually does research

[@JohnSmith-gi2oy]

Acheeto is a gamer; you know youre doing something right when Reddit doesnt like you

[@antoniotrivelloni8191]

Reddit: The Internet Hivemind God, I cannot stand that place when it comes to politics.

[@noxplay4906]

Being hated by Reddit means you are mentally sane

[@noxplay4906]

​@@antoniotrivelloni8191 self-defense is immoral, fat acceptance is positive, communism would make the world a better place, and a lot of other stupid ideas

[@benboothroyd1523]

Reddit is the only site I can't go on unless I want to be pissed off. Well, maybe add Quora to that.

[@holdupsomethingaintright7919]

What did you expect from reddit lmao, its where most intellectual wannabes join and group together. Thats why I only go there to look at memes, but most of their political and social views are garbage.

[@TheImperialSoviet]

"Fight BACK! FIGHT BACK!" "Oh fuck, he's fighting back."

[@talia_neah]

Think Before You Sleep has the nicest voice. Hes got a very calm delivery

[@EJxSB]

Hence the name

[@Deesnuts-ds3xs]

He sounds like DDOI's older brother

[@TheIrreverentUncleAl]

Kinda makes you wanna fall asleep, huh?

[@MagerBlutooth]

My sister is into video games like Animal Crossing and Just Dance, with no interest whatsoever in the more adventure-based single-player experiences like Uncharted, Call of Duty, or Final Fantasy. However, last year she took a major interest in Streets of Rogue, finding enjoyment in the chaotic nature of the game and roleplay potential. Since it has multiplayer, it's one of the few games we can play together that we both enjoy.

[@benh6452]

Streets of rogue is great

[@avi4463]

wholesome

[@RareDust76753]

Yeah my sis and i only play mario party, and generally competitive multiplayer games (like in conker smash and mario tennis....) she isn't interested in single players and adventure one

[@karma8430]

To explain the Japanese thing you were talking about, the word “otokonoko” spelled as 男の子 means literally a male child, pretty much used how we would use the term boy. The kanji 子 meaning child can be substituted for the kanji 娘 for a female child. Typically it’d be pronounced “musume”, but you can pronounce it as “ko”. So even though otokonoko typically means male child, if you replace the kanji with 娘 it can still be pronounced as otokonoko but it’d be spelled 男の娘 which would translate as male daughter.

[@poopy5101]

thats really interesting and crazy to think about :0

[@dumdum7099]

The male daughter 男の娘 is also a word for transsexual.

[@MasterofAardvarks]

That's freaking savage of japanese people

[@Randomsizz]

Another way of translating男の娘 would be (boys daughter )

[@iclickheadz]

I will forever admire Hassan on how he as ever accumulated a audience with how shitty of a person he his.

[@melitajay]

It's because of his looks

[@robiagacitei5487]

@@melitajay 100% not looks

[@fudgethegamer2801]

@@melitajay100% NOT HIS LOOKS LMAO

[@ARStudios2000]

Can't be, dude looks way too like a loser@@melitajay

[@melitajay]

@@fudgethegamer2801 unfortunately some people have bad taste but I can't deny it

[@apolloisnotashirt]

I hate the Old Hasan and the New Hasan... maybe I just hate Hasan.

[@kindabent3275]

LMAO

[@lv1543]

Sam hyde makes him shit his pants lol

[@DPantherful1]

I hate the old Hasan, striaght from the go Hasan, the frat bro Hasan, before the Young Turks Hasan. I hate the new Hasan, in for the grift Hasan, 'came what he hate Hasan, but that's who he was Hasan. 😂

[@Skiritai]

​@@DPantherful1I hate Hamasabi.

[@HayatoStarGod]

This comment section is basically "Rules for thee but not for me"

[@simondickrider]

I LOVE YOU PAPA CHEETO

[@fzninja4002]

bro whats with people and calling people papa or father..

[@happyphiri4237]

​@@fzninja4002 it's a joke

[@ChronicTheHempHog-mf3nh]

@@fzninja4002read his name 😅

[@simondickrider]

@@fzninja4002 you mad ?

[@fzninja4002]

@@happyphiri4237 cuz that shit is gettin real fucking old dude with people just calling other papa,father and daddy

[@thisisachannel12]

My personal theory about Hassan is he has skeletons in his closet from his frat days at Rutgers.

[@michaelortiz1561]

Oh he definitely slept with a passed out chick I can almost guarantee that

[@KnightmareOX]

If i had to throw out a guess i would go with SA

[@patrickreville4978]

Wasn't he caught in a brothel in France or something ?

[@kindabent3275]

0:46 this is why educating yourself on a topic is important before you just start spewing anything lol. this is why i try not to speak on things im not knowledgable about, or only know from stereotypes etc 😭😭

[@putent9623]

Ba, cause after you make the claim yuu have to either back pedal or spend hours doing research then double down.

[@putent9623]

Actually the secret third route is just pretending like they didn't call you out.

[@kindabent3275]

@@putent9623 honestly many routes with this one. if this happens to me id probably double down with research. theres usually at least one decent argument for each side. yknow id just waffle my way out of it 😭

[@PSNanonimousplayer]

Just spew your bullshit and have people correct you so you don't have to do research yourself but just need to see the video response

[@kindabent3275]

@@PSNanonimousplayer nah that makes you look ignorant tbh. But depends on the context. I think being educated a little on a subject should be enough to start off with 😭

[@chubbycakes6145]

Think before you sleep is always 10 steps ahead of every one. He is more locked in his research than any other person that I have seen in KZbin.

[@lunar3055]

*death note music intensifies*

[@def3ndr887]

Funny part is that he just does the work and effort unlike the rest those guys

[@iluvwafers]

im genuinely convinced that people who are fans of TBYS have no critical thinking skills or even do so much as to look at what hes talking about. just goes to show you that as long as you sound like you know what your talking about, idiots will follow you like sheep.

[@lunar3055]

@@iluvwafers he actually does his research, Shows his sources, and conveys his points very clearly. Just look at the description of his videos. All of his sources are there so you can read them as well

[@iluvwafers]

@@lunar3055 my point isnt even his sources, its what he does with them. he purposely misinterprets other arguments, creates strawmen, and cherry picks sources to fit his narrative. not only that he also creates completely outrageous claims with no evidence supporting him. yet you still support him...

[@DarkAbilex]

For a channel called "Think Before You Sleep" he sure does knock fools out before they get the chance to have half a thought.

[@BagelBoy97]

I do appreciate that Acheeto pushes back on him when he thinks TBYS is wrong and doesn’t let himself be bitched around by a guest! However it wouldn’t surprise me if the reason woman like Red dead redemption because horses is true. Not because “woman are predictably stupid” but because we humans are predictably silly.

[@nickelakon5369]

I'm kind of joking but I think there's a bit of a truth to women liking red dead redemption 2 because Arthur is a pseudo-father figure.

[@dakshvasant6229]

Could you give the timestamp of the push back pls

[@dakshvasant6229]

Nvm found it

[@DirtyDev]

A lot of women play rdr2 I’ve run into some online and they are always dripped out

[@wingsoficarus1139]

@@nickelakon5369 Well to be fair, Im sure a lot of guys play it for the same reason lmao No but seriously, RDR2 is just a good game.

[@KenLinx]

I disagree with Think Before You Sleep on a couple of things, but I started respecting the guy so much more after Ludwig and the breadtubers tried to smear him with false assumptions. Up to that point, I thought Ludwig was just an apolitical gaming streamer, but after that happened, I lost all my respect for him.

[@zekorohideyoshi4822]

he'll backtrack whenever Hasan gets upset about it, and also this is more of a reason why I dislike big establish twitch streamers, they're pretentious and they see their audiences as numbers to boost their social status.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

People like ludwig thrive on pretend their politics are "apolitical" Thats how the overton window has been pushed so far to the left in recent years. These mainstream content creators are pretending they aren't biased and that their neo Marxist leanings aren't political.

[@jurassicarkjordanisgreat1778]

@@zekorohideyoshi4822 The corruption runs not only in twitch but youtube aswell. these breadtubers took control by getting into bed with alot of the mainstream content creators. Theres a reason these people will make 100s of videos about "owning the chuds" But wont do anything for the other side. They are biased and want to trick people into thinking their ideology is "maturity and growing up".

[@NN-cc8uo]

Ludwig has always been a bozo and hardcore feminist

[@animesenpai1163]

I remember immediately closing that ludwig video lol.

[@nartnugget]

That comment TBYS made about RDR and horses feels true to me. I was playing Breath of the Wild and trying to get the best horse. When I looked up tutorials it was mostly women.

[@catsotorious]

As a woman, I can confirm that BOTW only keeps my attention because of the Horses lmao 😅

[@Flora_Dawn]

I was play for the story and to collect weapons

[@BEEETRUS]

I don't understand what about horses ?

[@DeMoraJS]

I assumed this was more common knowledge tho. Women tend to admire horses.

[@ninjireal]

@@DeMoraJS*Vaush is an outlier and should not be counted.

[@dizzypukas8410]

He diddnt just clutch a 4V1 he crushed a 4V1 and then more recently mopped the floor with Noah Samson , absolute gangster

[@Pyrotrainthing]

When you bring up Keffals admitting to getting minors on HRT I thought of the memes making fun of Major Kloog for grooming a minor. I'm amazed someone like Keffals can still have a platform despite saying something like that.

[@AbyssalNanachi]

major groom?

[@angel_of_rust]

and people still call him "she". it's weird how people still walk on eggshells for literal criminals.

[@zachowon]

Keffals forced everyone to bow down and didn't get banned because she had connections with people much higher in various communities

[@DoctorAids]

Bro really pulled out the "nah id win" card.

[@Pedro_Ferrandi]

TBYS common W🗿🗿

[@gaspartiznado6418]

Now we just need Turkey Tom and Tom Dark to interview TBYS.

[@Natej3ds]

Both great creators 😅

[@bioterman8609]

@@Natej3dsyeah turkey Tom and Tom dark are really good, though they’re pretty similar maybe they’re brothers or something(?)

[@tehy123]

Turkey tom the type of dude to be tom dark's identical twin

[@LightCrib2]

Why not include TomIRL?

[@BarnabyCrumplebum]

@@bioterman8609I heard they’re just good friends, but its possible

[@louishermann7676]

Anyone who gets a full research paper to explain why selectively taking bits out of the abstract isn't valid research has my respect. That's a level of commitment no one has anymore.

[@grouplelakibersekutu]

Tbys literally pulled a gojo vs sukuna. Hasan summoned ludwig and vaush meanwhile timmy sits in the background probably orchestrating this chaos but the only difference is that he cut them in half Edit:nvm. Tbys handled this 4v1 so great I forgot nick was even a part of the vid because of how little he added to the video

[@heavyfe4788]

Oh no is JJK references gonna be like Jojo references

[@noxplay4906]

They literally ganked him like cowards and they still got clapped

[@BitchChill]

Everything is related to JJK

[@doggodesign4259]

Vaush was unable to adapt and surpass him intellectually Ludnig couldn't tank enough Noah was an irrelevant glazer who didn't even show up for the main fight And Hasan revealed that he was not the strongest of all time and could not cleave through TBYS sleep hours to win the debate

[@darkshark3906]

Jjk became a new Jo Jo what the fuck is wrong with anime with j in the beginning

[@reidcacaro2919]

It says a lot that they default to attacking his anonymity, instead of his argument

[@hope-cat4894]

21:11 Political harassment can get so bad that it can lead to a genocide and it even has its own name: politicide. But if you bring it up, people act like you're not being serious. It's a sign of a lack of knowledge of world history on their part.

[@JustCrash]

The lack of historical politics not being taught in school, will only lead them to people like Ludwig and Hassan.

[@calebmhorvath]

the point he makes about just politely telling someone to stop is so valid and ludwig's response is braindead as usual, OBV it won't work every time, but it is FAR more likely to work than yelling at them, especially if you are a girl. you are not intimidating anyone by yelling, you are just giving them exactly the response they wanted and now they know you're a fun target and will mess with you even more. plus, becoming confrontational just makes them push even harder, a troll will NEVER give in to you and will ALWAYS continue to escalate the situation because they find it funny, so don't yell or get mad and they don't get what they want, getting super mad about it and screaming at a monitor makes YOU the loser.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

As someone who likes both Acheeto and Think Before You Sleep, this is so cool!

[@calebmhorvath]

"said racial slurs but they don't count bc they're white racial slurs" literally tho. i don't go out of my way to say slurs, i'm not a pos, but if a black person can say use white slurs then i'm gonna use black slurs, take me to court, i'll win. and it's not out of pettiness, it's a rights issue. if they can say it, i can say it too, and you can't do shit about it

[@dirkz.duggitz1567]

Literally just had this conversation yesterday when a black coworker called me cracker. Did not go in his favor. He really thought he was ok to say it, but a white guy can't say nothing back. Seems extremely entitled to me.

[@_Wrath_1]

TBYS is actually a pretty well-reasoned KZbinr

[@sole__doubt]

When you find out who his girlfriend is you might reconsider that. Hes not the first smart guy to have horrible taste in women, I have good friends like that.

[@vlrginizer927]

@@sole__doubtelaborate

[@_Wrath_1]

@@sole__doubt didn’t even know/remember he had one 💀😭

[@blessingpearls4805]

Who is it tho? Never found him to be open about his personal life.

[@sole__doubt]

@Peppabot Because his choice of a partner is a great way of determining how "well reasoned" he is.

[@silversteinmma]

Hasan filming videos on how to finger girls in his family's massive wine cellar is just rich. He went to University of Miami at one point, but his parents made him come home because he was a club promoter and was partying too much. His parents made him move back to New Jersey where he ended up graduating from Rutgers. Then he went to work for his rich Uncle's company that had millions of followers on Facebook. He was able to peel off a good number of those followers for himself just by appearing on his Uncle's show constantly. Hasan is a bigger fraud than anyone i can think of. Except like Bernie Madoff.

[@funicon3689]

university of miami is the ultimate rich bimbo kid party school

[@0749Rockystar]

TBYS is very wise. He helped me, indirectly, lose 40lbs in 3 months just by taking his advise into consideration. He is pretty awesome.

[@tarnantula]

I’ve been watching think before you sleep for a while, but it’s nice to see him in this environment, where he can let loose a little bit more

[@antonkovalenko364]

Ad hominem argumentum is part and parcel of dealing with that kind of crowd. Props to TBYS for not taking the bait and bodying them with facts.

[@BBallRambling]

His argument around 57:20 may sound dumb, and I know Acheeto pushed back, but in my personal experience the only time my sister every played video games with my brother and I was when we would create characters in the sports games we played (MLB the show and 2K games). She loved it, but she would quickly get bored when we moved on to the actual game.

[@BBallRambling]

@@writingeulogy I did not say his point was bad. I made it very clear that Acheeto did not agree with that take and a lot of the audience here also likely disagrees. Then I gave anecdotal evidence that backs the point without agreeing or disagreeing. Please do not put words in my mouth.

[@writingeulogy]

@@BBallRambling if you need a personal experience to prove your point. It doesn't work. I could use my girlfriend who I an expecting, yet I don't cause its not sound.

[@disbe1ief2006]

@@BBallRamblinggood answer.

[@sergeantsapient]

There are people that spend hours in a character creator and quit once they actually play the game. BDO comes to mind. Excellent CC but the grind isn't for everyone so they'll peace out once they realize that's how it plays.

[@Anon.G]

@@writingeulogynot silly whatsoever, anecdotes are evidence.

[@YmusAnon]

I remember watching tbys when I was 14. I recently rediscovered his channel at 18, my memories about him are legit

[@EGsirjustin]

HOLY SHIT my two favorite KZbinrs collabbed, actually never saw this coming, thank you for blessing us with a TBYS collab

[@thatoneguyiii1003]

TBYS on his way to get into beef with every big creator and win:

[@CalsGirl97]

I'm glad I found Think Before You Sleep and Mentis Wave. Two thoroughly researched guys who give fantastic advice on self improvement and HOW to think not WHAT to think. As a 26 year old woman it gives hope people my age aren't completely lost in their delusions.

[@Trid3nt861]

TBYS is a level headed and based person. Even when many Breadtubers were trying to go at him, he dunked on all of them wirh class.

[@scarletsletter4466]

❤ Great vid. I’m a girl who plays OW partly bc I have older brothers who made me play shooters while growing up. Acheeto is 100% correct that we like playing support, not dress-up, that’s irrelevant when the underlying gameplay is still PvP. It’s Its not that we dislike shooting/ DPS role, but the reality is girls have slower twitch muscles in our hands than boys, but better prediction ability & slower heart rate. Therefore we can excel more in support roles where we can anticipate rather than roles where we have to react quickly. It’s literally more enjoyable for girls to play support than for guys who often get frustrated by it. Same w/ girls playing healer in MMOs like WoW. Note that Blizzard games like WoW, OW & Hearthstone have the highest girl % but I think that’s also bc those are just good games with great art & colorful aesthetics that appeal to everyone.

[@dakshvasant6229]

Hope this boosts so others can see

[@nik-challengeman383]

Nice anecdotal evidence

[@relishcakes4525]

​@nik-challengeman383 statistically women more commonly play support roles and they do have more slow twitch muscles body wide than men. Not really sure what the problem is here.

[@nik-challengeman383]

@@relishcakes4525 source?

[@relishcakes4525]

in the words of every lazy lefty "its not my job to educate you."@@nik-challengeman383

[@ACatHandler]

Ludwig and Hasan honestly aren't very different, both clout chasers who will say anything for views, i doubt either of them even care about politics or any of their own videos

[@leiastopcrying]

as a female gamer, there is definitely a lot more women who like other things about games rather than dress up or woman-ly things. i personally love the game gears of war 4 n i love it for the sniping n scouting classes in horde. it is based on strategy n the fact that you need teamwork n coordination to play horde. everyone has a job to do. ik a lot of women who play that game, including my mom, who love playing engineer n building/defending base. so i think wit a lot of shooter games, women do love the strategy part of it bc its not jus "shoot-kill" you actually have to use your brain. im not calling men dumb or nothing, but women are definitely into more puzzling strategic games.

[@Sebenseven]

Play puyo puyo

[@domerino-ft6sd]

gears of war???more like tears of war lmao

[@u-1372]

@@Sebenseventhis game is nostalgic!

[@Sebenseven]

@@u-1372 ikr, some jelly like things and lewd innuendos

[@caralho5237]

Look guys! A woman trying to be relatable! Hilarious

[@gravelle7774]

crazy, i didn't realize it was TBYS voice. Now i understood how much blood, sweat and tears he put on his video. Even speaking style matters, insane. Great work.

[@diplenski]

i've been watching tbys more since the illymation situation. he gives a lot of good advice, even if there are things that we may not see eye to eye on. i'm not a fan of echo chambers or trying to censor/cancel opposing ideas. i think it's important to engage with people who have different ideas/opinions in order to learn/grow.

[@idcchmeh]

Homie. He doesn't actually give no good advice. Also how tf u talk about the echo chamber when u should know that tbys is in an echo chamber himself and doesn't want to engage with ppl on the other side. Atleast Ludwig backed up his point and was right, but tbys doubles down to look for bad and biased talking points to invalidate him without real arguments. Then calling anyone and thing woke or leftist if it doesn't agree with him

[@diplenski]

@@idcchmeh my point was more that even if you dislike or generally disagree with someone, if you keep an open mind, you can probably find things that you can agree on or find objective truth in some of the things they say. it's objectively good advice to not make excuses for your situation and just do the work it will take to reach your goals. most of his videos are engaging people he disagrees with and why

[@idcchmeh]

@@diplenski yet multiple time he doesn't do it at all. Tell me what was the last time he actually agreed or understood with what the other side said? Alyssa and Ludwig aren't even sjws leftists yet the dude had a echo chamber pov cause they don't follow his views, yet not once he agreed with both of them nor looked at their pov but tries to have an argument insteadn

[@diplenski]

@@idcchmeh i don't think this was a matter of difference of opinion/beliefs, that fat kid video was dishonest and objectively bad advice. "if it's hard, give up. do whatever is more comfortable" "if someone disagrees/calls me on my bs, deplatform them"

[@diplenski]

@@idcchmeh and he did mention finding some of her videos entertaining/informative

[@fivecentnickel4363]

love to see this collab with TBYS!!!!!

[@VANILLAZILLA]

Glad to see you covering this absolute curb-stomping from think before you sleep 🤙

[@EaGilgamesh]

tbys is one of the most reasonable and logical youtubers on the platform

[@Tossler]

Acheeto and Think Before You Sleep is the collab I never knew I needed

[@Grace-kq1wv]

Ok just wanted to add a note for around the 57:00 mark where TBYS is talking about RDR2. I’m a 19 yo female (college student and private pilot). Not a gamer at all but I absolutely freaking loved rdr2. It came out when I was in middle school and I could not stop playing it on my brothers play station. It was his game but I played it exponentially more. It started all because of the horses, they were so freaking awesome. I had a collection, and my main one was the white Arabian you find in the snowy mountains, can’t remember the name of the area. i spent some much time searching for that horse and trying to tame it. I also loved the brindle thoroughbred and Buell, the Dutch warmblood that was gold colored. The horse aspect got me really into the game. I would steal npcs carriage horses if I thought they were pretty. One time my brother let my white Arabian get attacked and killed by an alligator near Saint Denis and he didn’t have a save point from after I got the horse and I literally cried, I was so mad at him too lol

[@VG-fk6nk]

You know what's bullshit about RDR2? You can only have 4 horses total. (Technically 5, but 4 in stable.) I don't know who decided there should be a limit like that, instead of letting you own as many as you want, but that person needs to never make suggestions again. Currently, with the game beaten, I have: A white arabian - randomly found while hunting for the legendary bison, lmao. Almost quit the hunt to get the horse. Rachel - John's horse. Buell - the horse of the veteran. And a Mustang, because Mustangs are a classic. But man oh man, I wish I could have 1 of each. A full collection :/

[@DreamyAileen]

> "I'm 19" > "RDR2 came out when I was in middle school" reading this was like a mental flashbang and I'm not even that much older than you

[@gray1738]

You don't need to juice for a 400lb or 450lb deadlift. A male lifter consistently following a powerlifting program should be able to reach that in 3-8 months depending on height/weight.

[@OldMarius-gn5kk]

trust me bro

[@gustasrupeikis6752]

its definetily achievable without steroids, but not in 8 months, it would take YEARS to reach such a bench

[@gray1738]

@@gustasrupeikis6752 deadlift not bench. A 400+ bench is unachievable for most of the population even after years of natural training.

[@adam_toddster5367]

Yeah, no lol. Maybe for someone very genetically gifted. As someone who can deadlift a decent amount, and has met many people who deadlift a 405 is much more commonly done in 1-2 years, maybe more for lighter lifters. What's your deadlift?

[@gray1738]

@@adam_toddster5367 405 1RM after 5 months of inconsistent lifting (hunting season, non-lifting related injury). Squat is 355 for 3x5 and bench is 205 3x5.

[@FruitJuice1009]

TBYS has made me a better debater. He does such an incredible job of actually providing factual information and also pointing out the flaws in his previous arguments and grows on that. I try to follow his example and it’s just made me better and a lot less bitter and more knowledgeable. HE IS THE GOAT

[@zzodysseuszz]

38:38 I’m getting REALLY sick of these people taking anime, and other Japanese related content, and mistranslating or manipulating words to push agenda. They’ve infected jojo’s bizarre adventure as well, along with video games like guilty gear.

[@kuggacouragegx6093]

Proof?

[@kiprasking8581]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 The Britget situation and all the localization stuff.

[@Nigjaslayer9000]

​@@kiprasking8581 are those not copyright reasons???

[@kiprasking8581]

@@Nigjaslayer9000 What do you mean?

[@zzodysseuszz]

@@kuggacouragegx6093 miss kobashi’s dragon maid and most of crunchy roll’s localisation teams

[@OddReal]

I’ve known about Think Before You Sleep for ages, he’s very smart and it’s enjoyable just to listen to him while doing legit anything, gaming, cooking etc its always fun to learn.

[@CrusoelandProductions]

“We have you surrounded!” “All I am surrounded by is fear. And dead men.”

[@TTG-37]

*People tryna get TBYS off YT* TBYS: Nah, I’d win

[@jo-sy4dy]

I’ve always loved think before you sleep and also you, I’m so glad to see you guys talking and connecting!

[@ohmyduck8101]

As a woman, the games I tend to gravitate towards are fantasy rpgs and story rich games. Character customization is a huge draw to me and that’s why I got into modding. Red dead redemption 2 was interesting to me due to how good the story was, the horses were something that I really started to like halfway through the game. BG3, dragon age, Skyrim, dragons dogma: I played all those because they’re story heavy, rpg, customizable. Assassins creed are also enjoyable because of how atmospheric they are and I do actually enjoy the combat of those (the story can be hit or miss). The only multiplayer game I play is Black Desert Online because I have a pretty character and I enjoy the grinding (similar to why I like stardew valley and breath of the wild). Most of my girl friends (not all, of course, but most) tend to share my interests.

[@trueblueclue]

That's the third or fourth genre women are most into. The first and second are Sim games (like stardew) and puzzle games. Management games like Roller Coaster Tycoon are also up there. Competitive shooters are the worst at single digit percentages.

[@Michael-vh3jp]

This began looking like a for honor 1v4, turned into a space marine vs 4 guardsmen.

[@morgunz5365]

Think before you sleep is an actual legend, bro. Always enjoyed his well researched content. Heavy non biased opinions. Great collaboration.

[@stanleywilliams7128]

"I wanna insult ppl with facts not words" well said.

[@sewnmind1786]

Something people seem to skip over the point of insulting people online. Women get more gendered harassment cause its more likely to get a rise out of women then men. They're trying to insult you complaining about it only shows that its working.

[@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756]

It does more too. For a wider audience it pushes a binary decision, the false choice of like one of our stuff but not the other. It also solidifies your base by making a friend enemy distinction with who you're insulting. It's weakness is that its aggressive which scares some people off and leaves you open for huge gotcha moment if the otherside reacts well

[@badart3204]

Same reason people use race or ethnicity so often for insults. It’s so much easier to get under someone’s skin with those than it is to make a specifically tailored insult while having limited information

[@varnix1006]

If an insult doesn't get a rise out of people, you become the clown. Missing a tailored insult is more embarassing than nabbing someone with universal insult.

[@throwaway-lh2iw]

Looks like he did it again. Destroyed Noah Samsen, exposed Illymation, and humiliated Dillon.

[@lenk1432]

As for getting banned on apex, you will get banned if you type it out but you can't get banned if you use voice chat

[@murkorus7147]

There's an interesting point around 22:30 about people being data illiterate. I am currently attending a technical college where we frequently have to write reports and analyses, which of course need to have sources and data to back it up. This kind of behavior is rewarded, we're taught to do this. One of the most frequent critiques we get in my class is that our reports aren't 'convincing' enough. If we use a source that doesn't back up our point, or goes against it, that's bad, and we're always told to only look for data that supports our message, and discard the rest.

[@viddykhaos2896]

Pushing for confirmation bias is absolutely destructive to academia - the whole purpose of scholarship is to find truth and survey ideas and evidence and data for a better understanding of truth. Sometimes that runs parallel to expectations and other times not but there must be a certain level of dispassion which allows for a more fair and honest analysis of evidence. I have seen far less of this in hard sciences (physics specifically) however I would imagine that social sciences, political sciences, and other such fields that are more vulnerable to sociopolitical forces are rife with this data illiteracy.

[@1man1year150]

TBYS be like "sup, i'll explain how to body" On a side note, you do not have to be on juice to look like him.... nor to do a 400+ pound deadlift.

[@creativecanvas4044]

But in an short of a time gram as well as lift that much that fast you do

[@nik-challengeman383]

That roach was 21 back then

[@1man1year150]

@@nik-challengeman383 21 savage

[@1man1year150]

@@creativecanvas4044 ooook there guy.

[@badart3204]

@@creativecanvas4044he’s 6’3 or 6’4 with broad shoulders. It’s actually pretty reasonable for a man that size

[@javiermichel7097]

Wow. i didnt expect this collab.

[@tigerlily9965]

I watched TBYS's response. It was done really well. Mogul Mail was actually debunked, which was really refreshing.

[@grantflippin7808]

TBYS can't go to bed because he's always thinking

[@Nier_altruist]

Bro is the definition of "I'm not stuck in here with you. You're stuck in here with me"

[@Kaesar1984]

classic win for think before you sleep

[@meh_lady]

I’m a woman and ❤ TBYS! Glad to have found this, good stuff.

[@OGA103]

One thing that I think is funny about this whole thing is who cares if people trash talk you online? Maybe it's because I grew up with brothers but I never let the stupid insults about me being a girl get to me. It made it all the sweeter when I was able to kick their a** in counter strike.

[@somker-zw1mg]

you go

[@Moscoe...]

Nah I’d win

[@OGA103]

@@Moscoe... I'm sure you would. Especially these days.

[@Moscoe...]

@@OGA103 any day

[@Cityfounder]

This is the first time I’ve heard “Think Before you Sleep” talk at a fast pace. It’s just great to see that even those who have monotone voice videos, can actually have awesome personalities outside of KZbin

[@xxtoptankxx6873]

I think he does that to keep the video digestible for people who can’t take verbal content fast. He also can’t be taken out of context cause you are able to register every word and what that word means.

[@jayconvo]

57:03 - As a female, I like games that you can role-play and dress up. The cuter the dressing up is, the better. Bonus points on the game if you can design things, and most females I know go for those types again over just plain shooter games... I enjoyed watching my brother play Metal Gear, but I loved the gameplay/storyline, but I'm not really playing it! So, I would agree with TBYS on that one.

[@LiterallySilver.-_-.]

Acheeto collaborating with this legend was not on my 2024 bingo card

[@jimmyramos1989]

Legend? Bro is the archetype for a incel redditer who’s opinions on masculinity are hilariously unselfaware lol

[@human_npc]

​@@jimmyramos1989where did you get that impression?

[@creativecanvas4044]

⁠@@jimmyramos1989 you just made yourself sound like a Redditor 💀

[@jimmyramos1989]

@@creativecanvas4044nice one kid. go tell your friends (assuming you have any) you owned a random dude on the internet if it makes you feel happy.

[@tehy123]

Are you going to go cry to your fellow redditors now?

[@Cabinet445]

TBYS is honestly one of the best life advice channels, no misogynist nonsense like Andrew Tate just straight facts. I became more of a neutralist because of him, I don't like being overly conservative or being overly progressive. He's amazing.

[@xx_HI_xx7]

Crazy how these dudes now all either have a mustache, gold thin rim glasses, or worse... both.

[@MidKnighter]

Acheeto is 100% right about women gamers. They tend to prefer games that require strategy over skill. This is why WAY more women play 3D fighters instead of 2D fighters. There are way more options for countering and out-thinking your opponent. That said, I totally buy the "Women play Red Dead for the horses" claim as well XD

[@nasty_playzyt4888]

Interesting, but why do you think that is? Not @-ting you or anything, I just think this is a pretty interesting topic.

[@MidKnighter]

Women love brain teasers. I only have sisters in my family (I am the only brother) and they prefer games that test your thinking instead of games that require reactions or other tense things like that.@@nasty_playzyt4888

[@zarinaorejola3494]

I actually have a friend girl that literally bought that game just to ride some horses

[@shadowmaker8402]

​@zarinaorejola3494 win win she got a game that's that's and got to do what she wanted W for the game and her

[@jamesrogers7049]

TBYS is a great channel. I don’t agree with everything they say, but most of their points are spot on, and call of his arguments are in good faith and backed by research.