Head to Head, 2018 WRX vs STI!! Which One Should You Buy??

Correction, the WRX we drove was in fact a 2018 model, NOT 2017 as said in the video!! Watch as the Motor Minds crew compares the Subaru WRX with the WRX STI!! Is the STI worth the extra money?? Huge thanks to World Subaru of Shrewsbury NJ for lending us these cars and for being so supportive! Be sure to subscribe and find us on social media!
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[@9MinuteMotos]

Saved up and got myself a 2018 STI limited. I daily drive it and I love the thing ! Smiles per gallon!!!!!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

FlatBlackBurb Haha way better than miles per gallon!

[@jortega61924]

U don’t get many smiles then. The gas on the sti is horrible.

[@DesertEagle90]

@@jortega61924 yeah, the gas on the WRX itself is insane and the tank is only around 14 gallons so I hate to imagine what it’s like in the STI

[@ctiger789]

Yeah I almost went with the STI but Fuel Economy for my daily commuter car had to be higher. Around town power is also extremely good on the WRX. If I could only have one car in my life then I might go STI but the WRX is the better one for me and I didn't settle. I defined my needs and bought the correct one for me. I also love manual transmissions and very few other cars can touch the WRX.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

ctiger789 Yeah I feel you on that one. The STI may be more razor sharp but the WRX still ticks all the boxes!

[@Raymondstu]

Im finally getting 450-500km on a tank with my STI

[@yizhouwang7904]

@@Raymondstu always getting 300 miles a tank

[@cseymour97]

This video showed up in my recommended and I literally was looking at buying a WRX at world Subaru 😂 That's so funny!!!

[@KNIGHTRACEDOTCOM]

I have never owned a Subaru but I love the new look of it. It is beautiful and I have raced cars for many years driven both and they are not fast to me but amazing handling.

[@michellesteindl9758]

Excellent review!!

[@FeaolPlay]

2:26 Nice stall LOL

[@MotorMindsProductions]

FeaolPlay Thanks 😂😂

[@tjlovesrachel]

Made it look smooth tho... but I saw you restart it in the reflection of your glasses

[@louisbell9041]

i like how most all these reviews mention the outside noise while driving. im curious how many people drive with no stereo? this is a sports car, im gonna guess most people who buy it wont mind the noise (especially the engine)

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Louis Bell Yeah you're probably right, just being thorough!

[@GuilleSanchez.answers]

And the STi sounds so much better with the rumbling sound out of the exhaust!

[@baluchi430]

I love the unequal header sound of the sti, thats a classic sti sound & i hope Subaru keeps this pedigree indefinitely

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Yeah well based on the fact that Subaru has been using the EJ boxer engine layout for quite a while on the WRX/STI I wouldn't worry about that classic sound going away anytime soon (hopefully). The next generation WRX/STI might use an F generation engine though.

[@kondafitness6600]

He sounds more enthusiastic and excited driving the sti.. being an sti owner, I can relate :)

[@lnol11689]

I just got my 2018 wrx premium trim today damn i love this car hopefully subaru makes a hatch wrx sti and ill be all Over it!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Leo Nolasco Yes they need to bring back the hatch!

[@kirollos98]

ALL WHEEL DRIVE not 4 wheel drive

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Lol I swear that is the biggest criticism I've gotten in this video. I know the difference between AWD and 4WD but I tend to use the terms interchangeably. i realize that is a mistake and I won't do it in future videos! Thanks for watching!

[@johondarr2530]

Motor Minds Productions and the split Dif in the STI don’t control how much power you send to the fronts or backs.

[@ThePretendgineer]

It actually does. The center dif can adjust power front/rear. You can run it in full auto mode or set split yourself manually. The selector is behind the SI Drive knob on the center console.

[@watersnortmoment3734]

@@ThePretendgineer It applies the brakes, while still sending the same power to the wheels.

[@ThePretendgineer]

That's not even remotely correct for the STI. It's a legit adjustable differential.

[@LarryGanz]

I missed my 2004 STi and went to buy another 9 months ago. I had the money for an STi, but the 2017 WRX with the new FA20 direct injection engine was a better choice for a daily driver. The STi suspension was quite a bit bumpier and the exhaust was extremely loud and droned inside the cabin vs my WRX with the exact same STi performance exhaust. And the STi gas mileage is about 30% worse - I have no trouble getting 23-25 mpg City and 32-35 mpg Hwy, and my combined average is 26.5mpg vs 20 avg with my old STi (mine had the same mpg rating as the 2017 STi at 17/23). So I get 225hp at the wheels vs 247hp at the wheels, and one review got the same 4.8 second 0-60 with a proper launch, although 13.7 qtr mile vs 12.6 second qtr mile for the STi. It's close enough for me. You can buy an ungraded amp, speakers, and subwoofer + a Rolex with the money you save. I passed my 2015 Forester XT turbo down to my son to replace his 10 year old RAV4. Everyone is happy this way. PS: I got leather and navigation 440watt sound system, maxed out model with BBS wheels, STi exhaust and short shifter, except for NO CVT with eyesight. I added an Audiocontrol LC-7i sound processor with a JL Audio 5ch amp, Focal Speakers front and rear, and dual 10" Kenwood subs facing the rear, and with an ECOhitch invisi hidden hitch I can attach my bike rake to carry our mountain bikes.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Sounds like you've made some awesome modifications to your WRX! I definitely agree that the WRX is the better daily driver, especially considering the way you spec'd yours out!

[@Ballsack44]

Hey man, how has reliability been throughout your ownership?

[@LarryGanz]

@@Ballsack44 It's been great, now at 50,800 miles with 26.6 mpg average! And the other day I did a pull on the highway vs a 2015+ STi and kept up with it! Just bought an OLM carbon fiber wing yesterday, arriving next week. Only issue has been a bad OEM battery at 40K ($150), and broken mid-pipe exhaust brace 2 weeks ago ($108).

[@scratch1200s]

Subscribed!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Omar salinas Thank you!

[@WillGreenZilla]

Just picked up a used 2017 WRX limited... really like the car so far. Interior is very nice and the leather upgraded interior is nice IMO. Only "meh" for me is the clutch and shifter feel... Def needs a short throw shifter and upgraded shift lever and bearing.

[@groovymotion5706]

Great review! As for the road noise, once they move to the global platform it will be much more silent. They already did it on the Forester and the Impreza/Crosstrek...they added thicker windshields and added more insulation. I have a Crosstrek and it is noisy but when I get in my parent's Forester it is much better! I wonder how the CVT version of the WRX does, any plans on testing it?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

GroovyMotion That is a good point. Despite the facelift the WRX still rides on the same platform as before. Maybe Subaru will put different interiors in all their cars for the redesign, that'd be nice! As for the CVT, no plans yet as most enthusiasts will choose the manual and that is what we were offered.

[@groovymotion5706]

Yes, they definitely upped the quality in the new Impreza and now Crosstrek. Next in 2019 is either the Forester or the Legacy to be on the new platform. Unfortunately, Subaru played the "all new design" for the WRX/STi so I think they won't put it on the new platform for another 2-3 years, which is a real bummer!

[@Spencer-vq7se]

Great in depth video, theres one thing I disagree with though. You said that in order to fit a large intercooler into the car, they had to do it top mount style, the fact is that there is actually more space for a larger intercooler in a traditional front mount style. My theory is that they put the intercooler on top so that they can say "hey our hood scoop is functional"

[@jmt0728]

So I'm debating on whether I should get the wrx bas model or premium. I'm 6 feet tall and I was wondering how the headroom is with having a sunroof on?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

My apologies to everyone. As it turns out, the white WRX was in fact a 2018 model. However, we believed that we were being leant a 2017 model because we were going to drive the car more and the dealership didn't want us to devalue the car. However, as more of you commented we realized that an error might've been made. Unfortunately, KZbin doesn't allow for annotations anymore so there is no way to fix it in the video but now you all know what happened and that the white WRX is in fact a 2018 car. Sorry for the confusion.

[@lionnn1233]

What the difference in the wheels? Are they the same color and type?

[@Drizzit57]

I found the FA20DIT engine more efficient and runs higher boost at stock vs the STI which still is running the EJ.Thats why I pick the WRX over the STI when I got my new Subaru in 2016

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Drizzit57 Yeah I've heard a lot of people say that. Some guys I've spoken to have bought WRX's and boosted the power to that of an STI if not more for around 2-3k in mods.

[@Drizzit57]

Motor Minds Productions Brand new mine was running 18psi,I’ve only done a ETS intake and Invidia catback(around 1100.00 for both) and am running 22.5psi now.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Haha that's what I'd do if I had to choose between a WRX and STI.

[@arellano408]

I keeped my 2015 WRX and also got the 2017 Ford RS and is the best combination, I've had an evo, 2007 STi & 2012 STi

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Gilroy Moto Man I'd kill to drive a new Focus RS, esecially as a Ford Focus owner and fan!

[@sonicplayroompiano4302]

Did the wrx have the short shifter option or standard?

[@makennamock8817]

(14:00) he says the sti rear wing causes road noise as he slaps the shifter back and forth

[@camilocruz3707]

2016 STI, I've had it for 2 years, daily driver, 700 mile road trips with no issues. I don't even mind driving in Atlanta traffic. If you want Mercedes-Benz comfort, look elsewhere. Some folk will not be able to live with the STI, that's possible, but don't tell me that hard-core driving is your thing. You'll need to spend $20K more to do better than an STI.

[@motto666]

Are these 2 using the same transmission? It is different for the 2007 Hawkeye version where the sti 's transmission is stronger, able to take more hp upgrades.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Motto No the transmissions are different in the two cars. The WRX has a less robust tranny with a cable linkage shifter whilst the STI has a beefier transmission that has a parallel rod shift linkage and closer ratios.

[@markkewley7792]

I definitely noticed a big difference after owning a 2016 WRX for over a year. If you do have the money get the STI, you won't regret your decision. I personally love this generations look the most. Not sure about the 18's look yet as I haven't seen it in person.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Mark Kewley In my opinion the 18 hardly looks any different than the 17.

[@markkewley7792]

Yea aside from the plastic bottom trim piece and a little more aggressive marks near the lights it isn't that much different on the outside.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Mark Kewley Yeah I like the more aggressive front intake on the 2018 for sure.

[@kondafitness6600]

How many pounds of boost is the sti on?

[@davesway1170]

Almost as many dislikes as likes. Keep up the good work

[@JT-qd6uc]

LMFAO - I don't care that this guy has a cable attatched to him while talking, he's pretty damn funny.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Haha thanks! I don't know why so many people complain about the mic cable so many automotive KZbinrs use them!

[@djmr.patterson6828]

Go for the STI if at all possible. I have had both. You get better braking, better shifting (no rev hang), better feeling clutch, control over throttle response, and the classic Boxer Rumble (at least right now). If you want decent gas milage, definitely get the WRX. Both will haul ass so you can't go wrong with either.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Very true! I'm not sure if I'd justify the price premium for the STI since the WRX was still a very enjoyable drive but I understand those who would go for the STI.

[@lucwal67]

Only problem is that in France (& the countries around) the WRX doesn't exist, we only have the STI. Which is sad because the STI is starting at 44 990 €, which is way too much for a 19 years old like me.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

lucwal67 Damn that's a lot of money over here it's starts at $37,000.

[@lucwal67]

Lucky guys ! And because of this pricetag you never see them in the streets because people that can afford them are too old to be interested in it, they rather buy a german car like a Mercedes

[@MotorMindsProductions]

lucwal67 Yeah there is certainly a fair amount of truth to that.

[@VMPhilosophy]

I had a choice of an STI or a WRX. I travel 50 miles round trip every day for work. I went with the WRX. No regrets.

[@hairyviking6047]

This guy looks like layne staley.

[@yamchirobe]

Hahaha 😅 in to the wrx again. Same old trip it was back then ?

[@amandanisson784]

Massive hood scoop lol, bug eye sti's now that is a massive scoop I loved those big ass scoops...

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Amanda Nisson Haha yeah these cars have always been function over style.

[@reginaldbeaubrun883]

Sti any day.. bought a 2016 I’m loving every bit of it

[@mustardbottle9163]

The unibrow peaking through his glasses

[@thenumber1bobo]

You described the engineering process for the fitment of the top-mount intercooler as if Subaru hasn't been doing this for like 2 decades.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Hank Bobotek Lol guess that's just your interpretation. The reason they've been doing it for so long is because since it's a flat/boxer engine they can stick the intercooler on top to make it more compact!

[@madyariel9014]

Do pov test drives brother

[@MotorMindsProductions]

C-U-C-Y SILOT I've done a few! I'll definitely try to do more!

[@seansantos2738]

13:00 Exactly!

[@truechampoftrance]

The STI is growing on me, is ringland failure still an issue?

[@m.h.3679]

truechampoftrance it never was an issue, the sell so many of them that ya it's gonna happen, but less then 0.3% of subarus get it

[@gravityhammer25]

STI Limited... available without the wing ;) a little bit more under the radar.... STI if you want to stay stock for a while.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

gravityhammer25 Yeah the wing is definitely a matter of taste!

[@mg-by7uu]

I just bought a "used" 2017 WRX Premium with 600 miles on it for 26k with no sales tax(I'm in Oregon). The STI has a wing, c diff and Brembo's, and a 15 year old time tested motor. I have power and torque early so I'm having fun everywhere I drive without redlining my car every shift. There is a reason most WRX's & STI's with the old EJ motor are ragged out with new motors and transmissions. These videos don't mention that 30-40,000 dollars is a lot of fucking money. Unless you live at the track and are rich enough to pay 50-70k over 5 years just to have fun with your car I say get the WRX. It might look like a boring Camry but it's the smarter purchase for most of us. I would like to thank whoever saved me 6 grand by trading in a 2017 WRX Premium with 600 miles on it. He likely was the kind of guy who can afford an STI and likely has another daily driver anyway!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Michael Fish man that is one hell of a deal! My folks recently picked up a 2016 MX-5 Launch Edition and saved $8k off sticker just because the car had 2400 miles on it. Crazy just how much depreciation can allow us to buy awesome cars on the used market!

[@tjlovesrachel]

Michael Fish the sti isn’t realllly that expensive to the grand scheme of things and the upgrades you get are sooo worth it

[@MrStlover99]

04 to 05 looks good, 06 to 07 looks a bit better 15 to 18 looks beast, that's big ass spoiler is awesome

[@Jun4patriots]

Definitely in the market for one, both options are awesome and I've had my eye on a WRX for awhile now since my Civic is aging, and well over 100 thousand miles and 10 years of daily driving. I definitely will go with the STI, the hard part is deciding what color I want it to be. White or Blue ?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Jun4patriots Go blue!!

[@rickzilla09]

I'm the process of negotiating with some local dealers here in the Phoenix market. I'm going to go with the Crystal White Pearl STI Limited.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Ricky Gonzales That'll look sick!

[@rickzilla09]

It's looking like it will have to be a specialty order so once the price has been negotiated the wait is 2-3 months :(

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Ricky Gonzales Ouch do they really not have any STI Limited's in stock with that color? Seems surprising.

[@stevethomas760]

"A bit older with arthritis or some crap"? At 67 I resemble that remark... Letting you slide on the "in his prime like myself", well because you are.I'm the original owner of a WRX wagon with 194K miles. Still a amazing car and for me. Didn't like the looks of the car initially but it's grown on me over the years.Not a big fan of the STI wing. The Civic R, geez it looks like they gave a16 year old and told him to add 30# of exterior plastic.Just because you get older it doesn't mean you can't appreciate a cars that perform. I also have a '91 NSX.Thanks for the review,Steve

[@MotorMindsProductions]

steve thomas Glad you enjoyed the review! Man, a WRX wagon and a 91 NSX, that's a pretty sweet garage!

[@jasonzdanavage8998]

With regards to input to the 7 inch display.. My 2017 wrx has terrible reaction to any input. I hate it

[@jasonzdanavage8998]

Also the rev hang sucks. And it seems to run out of power over 4900 rpm

[@terrancemoore496]

The bigger the spoiler the bigger the ***** love it!

[@GuilleSanchez.answers]

If I go back to the STi, what I enjoy the most is the rumbling sound. I could handle having the spoiler, but I would tune my 2015 WRX to get the rumbling sound of the STi. The sound is experience, is happiness while driving. The spoiler, mmm... Please Subaru do something, and bring back the rumble to the WRX or at least do not numb the future STi generations like you did to the WRX.

[@drewh22]

I can personally attest that it's not true. I've got a big spoiler. :P

[@DoublePortalInc]

they really cant. the WRX uses twin scroll turbo which requires equal length headers for balanced exhaust loads. I love the rumble myself but all in the name of performance, i guess.

[@Flawdaboi239]

I love how you just assume that people buy the WRX because they cant afford an STI. I had the chance to purchase a 2016 WRX STI and i passed. I wanted the FA motor and im so glad i did. With an Intake + Protune i make 285whp and 300 wtq which outperforms a stock STI. For 10k less and only $1200 in mods i make more horsepower and torque than an STI.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

That's pretty sweet! The FA engines have a lot of tuning potential for sure.

[@josephbarrett971]

Tyler Kirkman im full bolt on, e85, and STi trans/brake swapped on my 16 wrx. Makes 390/350 and ended up costing about the same as the STi lmao

[@surfjujitsu2456]

Tyler Kirkman the same reason i baught a 2018 wrx over the sti. I can spend 3 grand and its faster then an sti. With an sti your paying for the name.

[@uSpotGaming]

Do you also have better suspension and brakes for the track as well? Do you also have a better transmission which won't blow when you go up in HP? I love how people only assume that the difference in the two cars is only the engine. Don't get me wrong i wish they brought the FA engine from Japan for the STI but until that happens the old motor it is :(

[@robVALORANT]

Tyler Kirkman what tune did you go with? I’m looking at MA performance stage 1

[@ryanroberts2598]

Is the sti 4 wheel drive too?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Trinity Renée Roberts Both the WRX and STI use Subaru's Symmetrical 4WD system!

[@maxfullarton]

12:07 that transition tho

[@mjg3267]

Subaru's dccd system, Intelligent/auto is the lowest throttle curve, S sport is delivers mid power, and S# sport sharp is full 100% power and never set the differential to lock on dry pavement.

[@6speedsti241]

4wd vs awd big diff

[@rizezenn1399]

Why does this video have so many dislikes?

[@drepop803]

seemed you liked the STI a lot more haha. WRX is a nice quick daily driver. doesn't feel anything special.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

drepop803 Yup exactly. The STI feels more special to drive.

[@NinjaPredator]

Lol the new sti has better technology and handling then the previous models. And it also looks much better then the others

[@MotorMindsProductions]

NinjaPredator Yes but I still wish they made a hatchback version!

[@misfits12o]

Just bought the wrx online. All the negatives of the wrx will still be a huge upgrade for me. Doesn’t run as smooth, and is loud. I drive a 96 civic hatch with 220k and sounds like a fart can driving down the road. You can feel when you drive over a fucking pebble on the road and the car sways from lane to lane when I do over 70 on the highway lmao. Don’t think I’ll be able to complain about anything in a WRX

[@Mike604]

What's the Doug score?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

MikeM Haha I should come up with a Motor Minds scoring system!

[@viperlights]

Shows a 2018 wrx then drives a 2017 wrx??? Compares a 2017 to a 2018 when a 2018 had some revised suspension, new shift feel, and smoother clutch take up...I'm really quite confused.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

There was an error. We thought the dealership was lending us a 2017 model but in fact it was a 2018 model. Extremely embarrassing mistake haha but these things happen. The white WRX that we drove was in fact a 2018.

[@jayenriquez3727]

DIRECT! 😅

[@alextrujillo6171]

I have 2018 Wrx crystal white pearl I will build it cosmetic wise and in 3ish years when hopefully Subaru puts the FA in the STi I will trade in for STi 😁

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Nobody Cares Sounds pretty awesome!

[@ThatStiGuy95]

What makes you think that the FA engine is soo much better??

[@Terminator4000]

That my friend will not happen with the sti .

[@chinchy111]

Geez subaru could have lowered the front bumper a little. They both look like suvs in the thumbnail

[@Doesitmatter666]

Where’s your vape bro ?

[@djteako]

WOW, all you people raving about the FA20 engine really need to do your research !!!! YOU CANNOT mod it cheaper than the ej25 !!!!!! The minute you even think you want to go above 300 crank hp, you better be prepared to put $8-10k in internals in first !!!! You will be bending rods and snapping your crank in no time if you don't !!!! PROVEN FACT!!!! PLUS - the transmission and drivetrain on the WRX is crap. Heard the expression the tranny is made of glass ? Well its pretty much true. On my 5th pull in my 2018 wrx first gear snapped !!!!! lukily for me it was covered by warranty because I haven't done anything to the car, but the second you plug in an accessport you just voided the warranty - and yes, they can tell if you have used one ! its one of the first things they check for with any warranty issue. So, long and short, from someone that is now on my second WRX - had a 2011, and now a 2018 - Spend the extra few grand up front and get the STi !!!!!! if your still not convinced, message me as I have a 2018 WRX premium with under 8000 miles on it for sale.

[@djteako]

Still not convinced ????? The 2018 made #3 on the Forbes list of top 10 vehicles owners get rid of within 1 year !!!!! First time a Subaru has EVER made that list !

[@sfricke33]

STI for the EJ257. The FA motor is still unproven at this point. Eventually maybe the other way around but not yet.

[@Drizzit57]

wrx effect The FA20 runs higher boost stock vs EJ STI stock...the FA20 is a better more efficient engine.Dont get me wrong I’ve had a few Subies and have much love for the EJ but it is an out dated engine

[@Terminator4000]

wrx effect the fa series is a strong motor and is proven however people are still learning how to push the engines limits. Ej series has 20 years of R & D so it makes sense why the ej is more capable than the fa. Dont get me wrong the fa series is excellent for your average driver however the ej is alot more capable of mods and rev happy when built right.

[@bobforpples]

Why not a v6 Camry with 300 horsepower?

[@npaul4171]

Because if you drive a 300 horsepower Camry like you drive an STI, you are likely going to wind up in a hospital or a morgue.

[@tjlovesrachel]

bobforpples why not just be gay.....and have fun with that in the snow and can you get that car in a manual(that’s all I drive)

[@johnnysullivan9653]

All wheel drive not 4 wheel, big difference bud

[@RileyMcMaster]

rather harsh,love my 2015

[@sachaMTL]

The boost is actually lower on the STi...

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Yeah it puts out about 1 psi less in the STI, but the STI has a 2.5 liter instead of a 2 liter engine, my mistake!

[@ksteele13]

Did you stall it at 2:29?

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Kenny Steele I did stall it once haha the clutch was pretty weird at first but not at 2:29 I think we cut that bit 😂

[@Liberal_Triggerer]

Motor Minds Productions I dunno man, you can clearly see in your sunglasses. You reach behind the steering turn the key over, then move all your fingers real quick no? 😂

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Subi Dub Idk man I can't tell. I do remember stalling it during the review maybe it was then and Jack just forgot to cut it out 😂

[@ksteele13]

We're just giving ya shit bro, your a good sport. I still stall my Subie very rarely, but when I do I pretend like it never happened. :D

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Kenny Steele Haha yeah it happens to all of us. I've only stalled my daily like twice but some cars just have very different clutches haha. When we drove the new GTI Jack and I both thought the engage point felt super elastic and we both stalled that thing a few times 😂Stay tuned for the review on that next week!

[@ukumra]

I've owned both cars 2015 sti and now a 2021 wrx. The sti is not crazy fast and not way faster than the wrx.

[@namelessnoname6500]

Not that I could not afford WRX better car

[@darrell3118]

OVER PRICED for something stuck in 1980 for design , they have a great platform to have a really sweet car , but Subaru is so afraid to let their designers GO and design a decent looking car ! And to stop making the 5 door was a mistake !

[@MotorMindsProductions]

I agree that the five door should be brought back, but when was the last time Subaru made a properly pretty car?

[@darrell3118]

Your right They never have made a good looking car . They need new designers BAD , The 2016 Concept WRX was a knock out on design and looks , I was actually going to buy one when they cam out , but seen the ugly crap they decided on and decided to keep my Infinity AWD with 300 hp ! Sad because Subaru has a great platform but they don't Flaunt it !

[@amsevo712]

Just bought a 2019 STI....

[@ThatStiGuy95]

Same here. Couldn't be happier 😍🤤😁

[@diobwry949]

why they lend two cars to a channel with less than 300 subs

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Dio Bwry Because they wanted to support a growing channel! What do they have to lose? They're getting great coverage!

[@mg-by7uu]

Not convinced on faux carbon fiber? Dude the side of your sunglasses looks pretty damn close to faux carbon fiber to me :p

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Michael Fish yeah because they're a $70 pair of sunglasses not a $38,000+ car...

[@mg-by7uu]

Hehe good point

[@adolfshitler8341]

Wrx vs sti.. isn't an sti a wrx? Just better? The way people talk about them it's like they're comparing a Holden commodore with a viper. Just call it the WRX, and the WRX STi, it's not hard to type and say those 3 extra letters

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Adolf Shitler You completely missed the point of the video. The whole point was to review the WRX and then do a quick drive in the uprated version, the STI, to see how much better it is. We are all well aware that they both carry the WRX nameplate. Hope you enjoyed the content!

[@Pharaoh_The_Great]

You get what you pay for...

[@koltonokeefe3035]

AWD not 4 wheel drive damnit hahaha

[@ToxicityAssured]

The "REAL REASON" you opt for the STi is the entire drivetrain is different. WRX has so so center diff and open front/rear diffs. The sti has a driver controlled center diff and locking front/rear diffs. You like cars and make good videos, this is obvious. However, this is a poor review of the two cars. You lack the knowledge to compare them properly. Still, thumbs up.

[@AaronJ323]

You look like francis from Malcolm in the middle.

[@powerelectric879]

I changed my dislike to like after you've said about the spoiler lol

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Abdallaziz Dalloul Haha thanks a bunch! Hope you're enjoying the content!

[@smokescreen399]

I personally hate the grill on the newer STI'S, the 2015-2016 looks the best imo, newer grill looks like a EVO wanna be. You didn't mention sport, sport #, and eco mode the STI has. Trust me first I put my car in sport # I was like HOLY SH#$#!

[@JoshuaTarvin]

BRZ is not AWD.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Who said it was?

[@707kid95]

if i get an STI the first thing i do is take off that wing lol

[@paoloapacible2729]

Dont do that ... the wing is nice

[@paoloapacible2729]

You can give the wing to me so I can put it on my wrx

[@johnnyolivero711]

Sti still has a timing belt, yuck

[@jtd3d351]

Johan Olivero One of the major reasons I didn’t want it and got the WRX instead.

[@Terminator4000]

Johan Olivero whats wrong with a timing belt ? Lol other than being old tech?

[@edwardacerra5763]

Wow what a tool Guy Smiley over here

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Thanks for your feedback! Remember to keep watching and subscribe!!

[@samb378]

@@MotorMindsProductions hahaha :)

[@Urbanbryan]

The bigger the spoiler the bigger the

[@ralphburrows8073]

I wanted to test drive a STI and the sales manager would only let me drive a block and back. I even offered to write a check for the full amount of the car before I took it for the test drive. He said no long distances no mater what..So I went elsewhere and paid cash for a 40k car. that did not have Subaru on it Subaru's loss.I dont get how a car company expects you to buy a car without experiencing it first.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Ralph Burrows Yeah some dealerships can be overprotective of their vehicles. Regardless of its performance it's still just a $40k car, a loaded Toyota Sienna costs more than that and people test drive those all the time.

[@nikporc3939]

just a bad dealership. I went to my local one and they wouldn't let me drive a brand new WRX, but they did let me drive a used (11000km) STI. I ended up buying an STI that day!

[@ThatStiGuy95]

They have to keep the miles down low. Plenty of others want to test drive. No one wants to buy a new car off the lot that has hundreds of miles. They wont be able to get their full price they want.

[@julaihaidris7212]

Wait the video is released in 2017, but why you said the cars are 2018??

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Because the 2018 cars start to come out midway through 2017, the 2018 models were already out when we filmed this! The dealer thought they gave us a 2017 WRX though hence some of the confusion.

[@ThatStiGuy95]

Yes I got my 2019 STI on October 31st 2018

[@NearIbris]

Didn’t even mention that Sti has a 2.5l outdated motor they’ve been using for the most part since 2004 In his mind do both cars have the same engine but Sti just has higher boost? Lol

[@kmking1986]

I'm sorry. you lost me when you called it four wheel drive. There is a big difference between four-wheel drive and all-wheel drive

[@MotorMindsProductions]

I'm well aware, I just tend to use the words interchangeably. Based off of the backlash I will be sure to not use them interchangeably again! Thanks for watching!

[@kmking1986]

I understand. Keep up the good work.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Thanks!

[@jtkent28]

Just be aware if you get the WRX it has HORRIBLE rev hang, the worst of any car I've ever driven. It really takes away from the driving experience and is the only thing I really hate about my '17 WRX.

[@Drizzit57]

jtkent28 If you get a COBB tuner it fixes the rev hang,it bugged me too when I got my 2016 WRX

[@konglee7284]

It's AWD NOT 4WD...

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Kong Lee You're not the first person to say that, I have a habit of using the terms interchangeably but after all the backlash from this video I'll be sure not to anymore 😂😂

[@konglee7284]

Motor Minds Productions when i was young i though they where that same...

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Kong Lee lol they're definitely not the same. I just couldn't be bothered to use the correct terminology 😂

[@zaboomafoooo7805]

2017???? You Mean 2018 -_-

[@MotorMindsProductions]

ZABOOMAFOOOO No I meant 2017. The WRX they gave us was a 2017 model and the STI they gave us was a 2018 model.

[@zaboomafoooo7805]

Motor Minds Productions The white wrx is 2018 right?

[@zaboomafoooo7805]

Motor Minds Productions you said 2017 looks like the 2018 it has the mustache front bumper.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

ZABOOMAFOOOO Nah the blue STI is the 2018 and the WRX is the 2017. They had 2018's in stock they just gave us a 2017 because it had more miles on it.

[@zaboomafoooo7805]

Motor Minds Productions I thought you were driving the white 2018 wrx that's why.

[@melvin3r512]

SUBARU... BRING BACK THE WRX WAGON!!!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Melvin Ray Spence III Agreed!!!

[@MV60]

It's called the levorg. Do you not have it? We got sti levorg coming very soon here too.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

MV60 Not is the US. Not a huge market for wagons here unfortunately 😭

[@MV60]

Yet your market still dwarfs ours. But then again we did get the gc8 through the 90's while you didn't get shit until you got the shit, err, bugeye. :)

[@MotorMindsProductions]

MV60 Haha at least we got the bugeye!

[@costas1799]

i would take an 04 wxr sti any day over that

[@MotorMindsProductions]

costas Why's that?

[@jackcollin1695]

costas i like the facts that most of us like the 04-05 design.but lets be honest,we will never find a brand new or in good condition all stock one for that.we can buy second hand or 5x hand lol and it will just give us headache and pocket."dont ever buy USED wrx/sti".

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Martin Umaguing Yeah they've either been extremely modified or abused haha.

[@costas1799]

Motor Minds Productions I think the older models are much more appealing, more iconic and more fun to drive... I drove a 2016 sti about a month ago and was not the slightest impressed.

[@MotorMindsProductions]

costas They're extremely capable vehicles and whilst I think they're a lot of fun to drive I don't think I'd buy one if all I was looking for was a fun car.

[@The_JL_Podcast]

Yeah you ruined it by putting the miles on it. What a shame

[@MotorMindsProductions]

VJL Oh no 5 whole miles on the STI 😂😂 I drove the WRX like 40 though so I got to know it a bit better before driving the STI.

[@Leo-ln9rd]

nice im 17 i own a subaru wrx 2018 it was a birthday gift but the seats are not good so u switched it to sparco seats to have that fast and furious look 👍🔵

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Leo Damn that's one hell of a birthday gift!

[@i11z]

You better do good in school, and go somewhere with your life. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have parents help them get cars like that at 17.

[@m.h.3679]

Leo sorry you own? do you mean your parents own? lmao

[@Leo-ln9rd]

M. H. its mine they bought it for me for my birthday

[@mraveryf25]

Leo crazy man.. I bought a 2014 sti for my 21st birthday.

[@stuna101a]

All these butt hurt people wishing they had a WRX STi but could only get a WRX. With $4K down you can lease a STI Limited for $400 a month. That is cheap as shit for any car.

[@dillonmorales6793]

All wheel drive not 4 wheel drive

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Dillon Morales That takes nitpicking to a whole new level haha.

[@Sam-is1qd]

Not really, the drivetrains are actually very different. They actually have little in common to be honest. If I came to this video not knowing that all subarus are symmetrical awd equipped (except brz) I feel that I would be very misled. Anyways, appreciate the passion and enthusiasm in making this video. Rock on!

[@MotorMindsProductions]

Sam Yeah I know that 4WD and AWD are very different but I tend to use the terms interchangeably, maybe I should stop doing that! If you watch any of my other Subaru reviews you'll hear us mention the symmetrical AWD system as it really is phenomenal how they can get such good fuel economy and still give AWD security. However, I'm pretty sure most people know that a sports car will have AWD instead of 4WD 😂