[Heated Debate] Black Men Must Take Responsibility for Women's Poor Selection!

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Жыл бұрын

In this heated debate, we tackle the controversial topic of whether black men should take responsibility for women's poor decision-making. Our panelists bring unique perspectives and arguments to the table, discussing the role of individual agency, societal factors, and gender dynamics in shaping women's choices.
As we delve deeper into this polarizing issue, we also consider the implications of assigning blame or responsibility to black men for the decisions of black women. Is this fair or justified, or does it perpetuate harmful stereotypes and undermine women's autonomy? Furthermore, what role do institutions and systems play in shaping these dynamics, and what steps can we take to create a more equitable and just society for all?
Whether you agree or disagree with the arguments presented in this discussion, we hope that it will stimulate critical thinking and dialogue around this complex issue. Join us as we unpack the nuances of responsibility, agency, and empowerment!
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@ColdDream224
@ColdDream224 Жыл бұрын
If the responsibility remains solely on black men then black men should have all the authority as well.
@neal4859
@neal4859 Жыл бұрын
💯
@Seancarter2010
@Seancarter2010 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. How the hell do we have all the responsibility but no authority. That’s literally slavery
@peterlopez2388
@peterlopez2388 Жыл бұрын
Responsibility with no authority is just slavery.
@SuzyQVeganBeauty
@SuzyQVeganBeauty Жыл бұрын
Facts so when y’all gon do it
@emotionalexchange
@emotionalexchange Жыл бұрын
Earn the authority and you will have it. Simple. It’s like any national champion- earn the title, the respect follows naturally. Dr. Umar is challenging men to focus on earning the title of impact in the community. The feminine woman you’re seeking will naturally be available in abundance, but you have to put in the work.
@T1Xerxes
@T1Xerxes Жыл бұрын
This is not about marrying people who made bad choices. This is about building an environment n institutions to guide the next generations.
@tomico2788
@tomico2788 Жыл бұрын
Period 💯
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 Жыл бұрын
So why isn't Umar showing us this rather than telling us this? Surely by this point in his "activism" he would've came across people that think like him and built an actual community to show us how to do it...but he is and will always be all talk
@dn30001
@dn30001 Жыл бұрын
​@@asundelgun3487Umar is too busy trying to get multiple concumbines to show else.
@T1Xerxes
@T1Xerxes Жыл бұрын
@@asundelgun3487 The man is not perfect. He does pander to women and celebrities. In his defense he has cooled of celebrities a bit. His school project has taken a minute. But I am yet to lay a brick on the school I have planned. And my advocacy for Black teachers, nurses and doctors would not make my late Mother proud. Think of the challenges u have faced in achieving ur own personal goals. So u can imagine the difficulty in galvanizing a conquered people. Remember the battle is between men. Women r spoils of war. So we should not be pressed for their allegiance. We as Black men need to build or own. It's that simple. Right now we r dependent on systems built by other men. We r as good as women. We probably will not see the completed objective; but we don't hve to. Just add ur brick.
@josiahbutler2254
@josiahbutler2254 Жыл бұрын
@@asundelgun3487 hes building schools for better education for black men, dont ever open yo mouth to question what he is doing..
@jennicolew8
@jennicolew8 Жыл бұрын
One word: Mentorship. We as a community cannot get better if we keep blaming one another instead of seeing how we can do our part to help our community issues. Mentorship of our youth, our boys and girls, it will change a whole generation, Imagine if every single one of the kids in our community had a mentor? Having someone to run ideas across with, get advice from and just in general have a sane person who is a role model guiding you can change your life. I participate in a mentorship program and I love giving back.
@Quest1luv
@Quest1luv Жыл бұрын
AMEN!!! This needs to be placed on a plaque, widely promoted and ingrained in the minds of many! 🙏🏾💯
@travisgray4583
@travisgray4583 Жыл бұрын
That’s true
@jokimaguire5045
@jokimaguire5045 Жыл бұрын
Change the word mentorship to father
@bluewave3417
@bluewave3417 Жыл бұрын
Mentorship can't defeat an 80% out of wedlock rate. And I'm all for mentoring. I worked with Americorps tutoring and mentoring kids in South Central LA years ago. I worked with Boys and Girls Club as well. What you quickly realize is the gap between what they need and what you can give is huge. These kids need functional fathers and mothers at home. They don't have the fathers. And the mothers are not nearly as functional as Umar would have you believe.
@Quest1luv
@Quest1luv Жыл бұрын
@@bluewave3417 Many valid and important points. I used to mentor 12 - 17 year olds when I was in my early 20s. I also tried to be a big brother figure to those younger than me in my area growing up. The consistency and just the set presence of a father is vital. Mentorship helps alleviate certain things, but having father who is around, committed and loving cements everything. It gives them a sense of identity that makes them feel complete. If that's missing, then you'll continue to witness the devastation or a worsening of it.
@wavessss720
@wavessss720 Жыл бұрын
Much respect to all involved in this dialogue. It’s time to stop showcasing the symptoms of the problem and to start actually solving the problem.
@williesparks
@williesparks Жыл бұрын
Exactly, count me in. I suggest we create a Black Blueprint. So anyone who wants to be part of a positive, productive movement. Would have a step by step print to achieve. Together as one
@whisper2284
@whisper2284 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Black men as a collective are capable enough and powerful enough to gain control of the inner cities’ young Black boys and young men. They must strive to do it.
@jaliselbrown
@jaliselbrown Жыл бұрын
​@@williesparks @wavessss720 and @whisper2284 YESSS I'm loving to see how y'all are responding to this! It's exciting, major encouragement to you all!!!! And encouragement to your too @dennyosifo911 hope you change that "I don't date black women" stance, in due time!
@candorsspot2775
@candorsspot2775 Жыл бұрын
delusional. The problem with Umar is that he attacks 'individualism' because he wants to avoid personal responsibility. He'll NEVER talk about the fathers of these kids needing to get married because HE has two baby mamas that he expects other men to come together to raise. LOL, that's insane.
@7reload777
@7reload777 Жыл бұрын
The insane thing about all of this is that you actually believe these serial baby mama’s will support any form of positive intervention by black men in the community. This idea is a complete waste of time. What we need to do is to raise our OWN children to be productive and valued members of the community. All this Avengers assemble nonsense is pure foolishness
@barak-rocky-giles2081
@barak-rocky-giles2081 Жыл бұрын
The only group of people who are allowed to not be responsible for their own actions are kids and even that only goes so far.
@TheDesciple30
@TheDesciple30 Жыл бұрын
Facts. We all are accountable for our own actions.
@blacktaxcollective5299
@blacktaxcollective5299 Жыл бұрын
@@TheDesciple30 but men control the community... until we are the primary employer and protector of Black children... we're collectively failing.
@tpoppy9303
@tpoppy9303 Жыл бұрын
Its black mens fault so many women are single parents. It black mens fault the community is filled with drugs. Its black mens fault the community is filled with crime. Its black mens fault the community isnt safe. Its black mens fault women have to be aggressive because the men are aggressive with them. Bw have been killled or harassed for turning down bm. Bw have the highest domestic violence rate. They are killed more by bm. Bm cheat more. Bm need to take accountability for their women being the way they are and stop being cowards who hide behind their women. The whole world looks at us like we are a joke.
@TheDesciple30
@TheDesciple30 Жыл бұрын
@@yaffehbendaud Good point
@ItsKDHN
@ItsKDHN Жыл бұрын
Stop it cause every race is responsible for their own. Even the damn KKK take care of their own. Y’all mean to tell me that all is lost w our people that we can’t collectively regain ground on our young boys w no guidance. No one said raise them. Y’all purposely being dense like a positive black man ain’t help guide y’all sharing gems, jobs, tools? Really? Soo KKK and other races can take care of their own … but WE CANT? Bffr
@zoe_zucci
@zoe_zucci Жыл бұрын
I made this Mistake and 15 years later I’m still feeling the effects. DO NOT. I repeat DO NOT. Invest your time and help anyone with their mistakes. Those kids will not care when they get older and the chick will move on as well.
@zoe_zucci
@zoe_zucci Жыл бұрын
I’m tired of these dudes telling the world that women are raising black males alone. When black coaches of all sports, mentors of programs like the Urban league, and black male teachers have been keeping these knuckle heads raised by single mothers in check and get ZERO credit. And at the end, when they are successful they thank their mothers and when they fail they blame the black men in the community.
@Jupiterxice
@Jupiterxice Жыл бұрын
Facts
@MGTOWman22
@MGTOWman22 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, it's really common sense to be selfish, especially concerning something you DON'T have to do. I'm sorry you had your time wasted but you're going to help the young men that need to see your comment.
@lisagrayson3302
@lisagrayson3302 Жыл бұрын
Guess who pays the price when you try to visit a soul food restaurant in the Hood and one of those black teens shoots you in a cross? Your hatred of black women and children puts you are yours at risk, but you are too white centric to realize this.
@wesmyone9562
@wesmyone9562 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cautionary tale, it's greatly appreciated👍🏿
@adamf.585
@adamf.585 Жыл бұрын
Men Must Take Responsibility😌 Men Must Take Responsibility😌 Men Must Take Responsibility😌 Men Must Take Responsibility😌
@codine9884
@codine9884 Жыл бұрын
For their actions nobody else is
@whisper2284
@whisper2284 11 ай бұрын
@@codine9884 That attitude that you’re giving is why Black men are behind every other race of men economically.
@gantzuka
@gantzuka 6 ай бұрын
WoMen Must Take Responsibility as well🥱🥱 WoMen Must Take Responsibility as well🥱🥱 WoMen Must Take Responsibility as well🥱🥱 WoMen Must Take Responsibility as well🥱🥱
@adamf.585
@adamf.585 6 ай бұрын
@@codine9884 For their families for their children, man is the house leader
@adamf.585
@adamf.585 6 ай бұрын
@@gantzuka Man should choose his wife & take Responsibility for his family his his children, the man is the house leader
@lynn4134
@lynn4134 Жыл бұрын
This was a great conversation! I’m tired of the war between Black men and women. It’s tired. Everyone need to be held accountable.
@lynellb
@lynellb Жыл бұрын
Right, there's blame on both sides but ultimately he's totally right. We need help and the help is soooo hard to come by.
@cellycell8970
@cellycell8970 Жыл бұрын
Haha men don’t choose who we can sleep women are the ones that allow us to smash so if black women are constantly picking pookie and ray ray how can you be mad at the successful “lame” that goes outside his race?
@gottaluvgloria
@gottaluvgloria 11 ай бұрын
@@cellycell8970your literally ignoring everything dr umar said in this episode..
@youtubinit
@youtubinit Жыл бұрын
Young black men DO NOT take responsibility for someone's actions.
@OthoWilliamsJr
@OthoWilliamsJr Жыл бұрын
Thank you, they WON'T... I WON'T ALLOW this bullshxt to ENTER into they're Hearts while I'm around❗️❗️❗️❗️
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam Жыл бұрын
Oh, if you want a happy life with a westernised woman you BETTER take responsibility for her. In the same way you take responsibility for what you own. Decisions shouldn't be something she makes because she's not accountable for the ones she makes. You want a westernised woman? You sir BETTER be responsible for her or you have a wild, irresponsible being running through your life without any leadership or guidance at all. Put it on a leash or keep it out your life.
@undrausthomas6997
@undrausthomas6997 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@JusDion
@JusDion Жыл бұрын
What was the civil rights movement? Was that not taking responsibility? You don't know what it means to be a man you just scared of whats going to happen to you.
@stephanielove2662
@stephanielove2662 Жыл бұрын
Same for black young girls. We are a product of pookie and ray rays
@mhs1983
@mhs1983 Жыл бұрын
It's fucked up when you can't tell the truth because it will hurt your pockets....this hurts his credibility man...
@michiganrico2802
@michiganrico2802 Жыл бұрын
BLACK PANTHERS BLACK POWER
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
And what work is going bad he has effectively admitted the very point he contradicted in other interviews. Medium man did a good video on this encounter. Dr. Umar Johnson knows the truth, but he can’t say it on a platform like daily wrapup crew
@With_all_due_respect.
@With_all_due_respect. Жыл бұрын
He's never been for Black people. He's a plant.
@youngreckless1608
@youngreckless1608 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 Bro the realest shit I ever heard 💯😎😂
@touchd_dwn_n88panthergod4
@touchd_dwn_n88panthergod4 Жыл бұрын
Umar :the Cia did it. Also Umar : the blk man fault .
@WillNelson73
@WillNelson73 Жыл бұрын
Umar Johnson SOUNDS intelligent and is well spoken but what actually comes out of his mouth is nonsense
@solis28lee
@solis28lee Жыл бұрын
They were not ready for Dr Umar 😂😂😂😂
@dicerevo
@dicerevo Жыл бұрын
Dr Umar has a point. My sister is a single mother. I have children too. But I’ve been so wrapped up in chasing my career and building a legacy for my family I never stopped to check in on my sisters boys. Even though I see so much of me in them. Damn.
@robsawyer8034
@robsawyer8034 Жыл бұрын
Your lineage is different than another man’s lineage. It’s the responsibility of their father and the father’s family. Sounds noble and good but you’ll have to hope those decisions are not continued.
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
@@robsawyer8034 exactly, what Dr. Umar is asking of general men, is supposed to be done by the father, his family, and the men that the father trust to guide his child The community comes from the extension of the father, this is why choosing good father is so important
@robsawyer8034
@robsawyer8034 Жыл бұрын
@@eatshityoutube3271 facts. Every other community except the black community gets this.
@naig.7067
@naig.7067 Жыл бұрын
This is admirable, and yes, they have a father, but if the father is not around or in their lives, it won't hurt to step in and check in on them.❤
@bronzebomber814
@bronzebomber814 Жыл бұрын
Never too late
@mauricefullenwiderjr
@mauricefullenwiderjr Жыл бұрын
I think his point here was simple: take responsibility and either she will be better or you will attract better. If neither happens, look inward, the issue is you.
@truthsetyoufree
@truthsetyoufree Жыл бұрын
👏👏
@chrisboateng5975
@chrisboateng5975 Жыл бұрын
Smartest comment I've seen today. Whether you like it or not, the way you act will not only influence you but the connections you develop and the impact you make
@jabbaweezy
@jabbaweezy Жыл бұрын
That was his point for all of 20 seconds in response to one thing the hosts said. The overall point that took up most of the video was much different
@drillnauticus
@drillnauticus Жыл бұрын
No, we are done with the whole idea that the labor lies outside of the people making the child.
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
No, and he even laid out what he meant. His point is that the deterioration of a community is ultimately because black men effectively made systemic mistakes, those were his words, that made the black women have to raise 60% of the kids by herself for 50 years. And to atone for that and regain leadership, all black men, regardless, have to pay by bei big brother to the children of these single mothers because the “pookies” would not exist if the single mothers had a “better selection” of men to choose from, even though theyre strong, independent, dont need no man and fought for the sexual revolution where they could sleep with whoever they want 🤡🤡🤡 Umar cant hurt his pockets. He knows the truth. Hes admitted it on other videos. Youd think he agreed with eli
@moniquemarrie
@moniquemarrie Жыл бұрын
I'm a grown woman with no children. I have a cousin who's a few years younger than me and has 5 children by 4 different men. Her mom used to run the streets, mine did not, and we have lived totally different lives. When I came home from the military, I hung with her for a day. We smoked, drank, it was a first and last type of day for me. lol I remember when I was leaving, she said, "Yeah cuz, we do this everyday! come through whenever!" Fast forward years later, I found myself in the courts petitioning for custody of her children (she signed the paperwork to give me custody). The courts wouldn't allow it because the absentee fathers (several of which I don't know to this day) needed to sign off. I help in every way I can, but those kids are just exposed to things that are totally normal in my cousin's world, but so extremely toxic. I say all this to say the responsibility of parenthood never changed her or the fathers of her children. When I tried to take custody, and when I help in the ways I can, I don't do so to absolve her of her responsibility. I do it because there's a clear need not being met, she's obviously not going to meet the need, and the children will suffer as a result. I think we need to be realistic here, it's not the adults who are being hurt by their poor decision making oftentimes, it's the children. That's the driving force behind the work that Umar is saying we need men to do. The kids should not have to pay for the sins of the parents. And we know damn well the parents aren't gonna step up. So do you stay stuck in this loop of blaming the parents to no avail, or do you step up to meet the need that you KNOW exists, even if you get no immediate payoff. Because trust me, it IS a thankless job. I do it for my cousin's kids as well as random neighborhood kids. We have to focus on what matters and not stay stuck on the bullshit. Our future as a community depends on it.
@impervious99
@impervious99 Жыл бұрын
that's stand up stuff man. And I think that's where Umar's critique breaks down. Yes...YES. as men we should do all we can to be the top examples in our communities. But if the women are going to willingly take on the drama of terrible choices, there's nothing we can do about that.
@moniquemarrie
@moniquemarrie Жыл бұрын
@@impervious99 In all I said, that's what you read? My point is that IF we are truly concerned with our future as a people, and IF we really care about these children, our focus SHOULD NOT be the parents. I saw early on that my cousin is not going to change, and the men she dates (because those are the men who she is in proximity to and those are the men who choose her, and that's how dating goes) are losers who are also never going to step up. But those damn kids. It's not their fault. And they deserve better. The fact that there's this loneliness epidemic among men, and folks are saying how it seems no one is concerned for black boys, but black men don't even seem to care, is alarming. We're told we can't raise men, and I agree with that. But the men who say they want to be leaders in the community are unwilling to lead the young boys because they're not of their seeds. If that attitude doesn't change, we are lost. Because no matter how much we say marriage is needed, women should choose better, men should stop planting their seeds all over, these kids are here NOW. They need help, love and guidance NOW. And our men seem to be so focused on the sins of the parents that they're blind to that. So those boys will probably go on to repeat the patterns of their parents, and the cycle will continue. It's heartbreaking.
@moniquemarrie
@moniquemarrie Жыл бұрын
@@impervious99 It just seems like “good” men have so much smoke for women who they assume made horrible choices in their mates (and don’t get me wrong, many did - but not all), but where is the smoke for the ain’t shit men. Men post the statistics of the number of absentee fathers in our community vs the number of single mothers as some sort of gotcha. And that says a lot about the men we’re having children with. But that’s the point. It says a lot about the men, but the good men aren’t sitting here shaming the ain’t shit men. Where is all the smoke for them? Many men say things like, “I can’t control what another man does.” And that’s true. But I wonder why there’s so much less smoke for the men abandoning their children after planting seeds in women - especially if they have no desire to be fathers. All the shit talk leads to the women. Why aren’t y’all getting on men about having unprotected sex if they can’t (or won’t) stick around to raise the children? Whether you believe it or not, many of us women get on our sisters ALL the time about their choices in men. I just don’t see the same from men to other men. Y’all say women hate accountability, but don’t hold men accountable for the part they play. It’s weird.
@imariwilliams3974
@imariwilliams3974 Жыл бұрын
I was riding with everyone else on this one, but after hearing your comment. I agree with everything you said.
@MelyMel8867
@MelyMel8867 Жыл бұрын
Even with you being a woman, your passion on the matter didn't work. As a woman within her own family mind you. And you really think a non related man will somehow make a big difference in that matter?
@jabbaweezy
@jabbaweezy Жыл бұрын
Dr. Umar asking why are there "pookies" in the selection is like asking why there's evil in the world. It's always gonna be there. You just don't pick that option. Accountability for someone's own decision does not fall on someone else.
@jaybrick8973
@jaybrick8973 Жыл бұрын
Facts there is pookies in all races these women don't have to pick them in fact they could probably change the bc by shaming these men instead of getting with them
@carinaadams6797
@carinaadams6797 Жыл бұрын
And out of all bm, what percentage are “pookies”? The pickings are slim. Bm have the highest unemployment rate and the highest crime rate. So using your logic and not picking that option _(which I wholeheartedly agree with)_, bw best and *only* option is to date out. Because there are not enough good bm. Just like jobs, if there isn’t enough jobs in your area, do you turn to crime or look for jobs outside of your area?
@jabbaweezy
@jabbaweezy Жыл бұрын
​@@carinaadams6797 If that's what you have to tell yourself to cope, then so be it. You divestors gotta stop looking for attention here. Go congregate in those other men's spaces
@jaybrick8973
@jaybrick8973 Жыл бұрын
@@carinaadams6797 there are plenty of good bm available please stop it
@WEGOTBUCKSENT365
@WEGOTBUCKSENT365 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@frankwalker9528
@frankwalker9528 Жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that Dr. Umar hasn't married one of the "queens" from the community.
@sexyhomeowner9345
@sexyhomeowner9345 Жыл бұрын
He's had kids by them though.
@doncorleone2713
@doncorleone2713 Жыл бұрын
@@sexyhomeowner9345 Then he is literally a Pookie and expecting others to raise his kids.
@ManOfYah-work-in-progress
@ManOfYah-work-in-progress Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. This is very important to acknowledge. I guess he thinks he's immune because he has girls instead of boys.
@shawn_and_one
@shawn_and_one Жыл бұрын
@@sexyhomeowner9345Is that better or even worse
@brianbest6097
@brianbest6097 Жыл бұрын
He's constantly preaching polygamy yet he hasn't married any of his baby mama's .
@9doggie12
@9doggie12 Жыл бұрын
How can a 23 year old brother fresh out of law school be blamed for a 38 years old single mom of 3 lol
@KayTalkNYC
@KayTalkNYC Жыл бұрын
That’s literally not what he said but alright.
@9doggie12
@9doggie12 Жыл бұрын
@@KayTalkNYC that’s exactly what he’s saying lol
@Juntao1989
@Juntao1989 Жыл бұрын
@@9doggie12 LOL BIG FACTS
@JBSCORNERL8
@JBSCORNERL8 Жыл бұрын
@@9doggie12 it’s not you’re just a fuking dummy. His whole point is, black men need to be involved more in the community. You don’t have to date a single mother to do that.
@Wanderer25
@Wanderer25 Жыл бұрын
You're supposed to find the time and energy to lecture Pookie, stop Pookiesha from being irresponsible with her womb, raise their dysfunction offsprings and be a 7 figure lawyer. In other words be Super-Kneegrow 🙄
@cs2saske607
@cs2saske607 Жыл бұрын
What Umar is saying is that we can’t worry about individualism. He’s simply saying we have to bond together in order to fix these broken conditions. That’s the only way it’s going to change.
@Convess
@Convess Жыл бұрын
Let it burn and flood
@7reload777
@7reload777 Жыл бұрын
No he is wrong on all levels because in the model he is suggesting there is no PERSONAL accountability. Essentially what will happen is you will get hard working, disciplined individuals cleaning up the mess left by those who are selfish and ignorant. The solution is for each INDIVIDUAL family to raise productive and disciplined children it is reall that simple. Only then can you actually have a community of like minded individuals who are all INVESTED to the same degree. Go in to save the day on some Avengers assemble nonsense just won’t work because it relies on the people doing a whole lot EXTRA to save and convince people with a backward mindset that there is a better way. Pure foolishness
@RayQuan
@RayQuan Жыл бұрын
@@7reload777 You hit that right on the nail
@IconicUniverse4L
@IconicUniverse4L Жыл бұрын
That Poor selection point was fire by Dr. Umar omg
@JulyJackson
@JulyJackson Жыл бұрын
Man listen… I'm not taking responsibility for any of these females' actions. This dude speaking foolishness.
@imdifferentMr843
@imdifferentMr843 Жыл бұрын
💯
@HighValueNigerian
@HighValueNigerian Жыл бұрын
He’s what we call, an educated fool
@walterjohnson8344
@walterjohnson8344 Жыл бұрын
It's over your head
@stayfocusedmedia
@stayfocusedmedia Жыл бұрын
He’s not speaking as a individual
@vanjones1749
@vanjones1749 Жыл бұрын
True
@KayKay41721
@KayKay41721 Жыл бұрын
I get what he is saying. He’s basically saying we have to get back to having a community mindset but sadly it will never happen.
@thadonjuan2339
@thadonjuan2339 Жыл бұрын
It will happen, if Black people take accountability.
@lamikeDalton
@lamikeDalton Жыл бұрын
@@thadonjuan2339 and that aint gonna happen.
@thadonjuan2339
@thadonjuan2339 Жыл бұрын
@Tom Furman Yeah it will. For many of us, not all. But no race of group of people are perfect. As long as most of us do what we gotta do.
@clockehvac1240
@clockehvac1240 Жыл бұрын
​@@thadonjuan2339brother it's GAME OVER. THERE'S NO SAVING THE COLLECTIVE OF BLACK PEOPLE. GET THE ONES CLOSE OR ROUND DEM UP AND BUILD With OTHER LIKE MINDED PEOPLE . DON'T SAVE SOMETHING THAT CAN'T BE SAVED
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
Not for Pookies bastard children no it wont
@camiblutube7116
@camiblutube7116 Жыл бұрын
Lordt! They're making my head hurt! They're just not getting it at all!
@MenofValueSpeaks
@MenofValueSpeaks Жыл бұрын
Lol, Umar literally want men to raise his kids. BLACK Women in America were not good enough for him. He left 2 families bc of masculinity 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@walkingbehindthelordminist5948
@walkingbehindthelordminist5948 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Umar, just excuse the BW from her poor decision making and it is the BM fault for her poor decisions. Make that make sense.
@craigrankine9867
@craigrankine9867 Жыл бұрын
How about you be a man and stop complaining about women
@JBSCORNERL8
@JBSCORNERL8 Жыл бұрын
Y’all nikka are straight losers.
@deanbrooks7297
@deanbrooks7297 Жыл бұрын
You can’t at all, he just wants bw to keep funding him
@123reletive123
@123reletive123 Жыл бұрын
Your thumbnail lets us know everything we need to know. If the cap fits then just say that and keep it pushing
@_Itsbreez
@_Itsbreez Жыл бұрын
Im still trying to figure that out 😂
@bradleycampbell245
@bradleycampbell245 Жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree on this. Not my fault that Pookie got chosen to be a father, and now I’m supposed to be a clean man and the emotional punching bad for black women’s bad choices. Not thank you ✌🏿
@michaelgatt7642
@michaelgatt7642 Жыл бұрын
Exactly I don't know what Dr. Umar is talking about because I'm watching this shit unfold from the front seat of my ex-wifes decision to get knocked up by a pookie while married to me. Now she's looking for a cleanup man to come and help raise her kids and save her from her piss poor decision making. Funny thing is she's 40 so I can imagine what women half her age do
@lisagrayson3302
@lisagrayson3302 Жыл бұрын
Who created Pookie? No body forced his dad to have sex with his mom. Take accountability.
@poindextersheelturn436
@poindextersheelturn436 Жыл бұрын
@@lisagrayson3302 Lol, Pookie is a wild animal, why did the woman sleep with him, take accountability and responsiblity.
@FlavoredGenuine
@FlavoredGenuine Жыл бұрын
@@lisagrayson3302 You can say that the same black man abandoned the child he fathered yet at the same time the mother is also partially responsible for how the child turns out in adulthood. Even if the couple aren’t together anymore, they can still be co-parents and have a relationship with their children. It goes both ways, it cannot be solely dumped on the man.
@bodirockbeats
@bodirockbeats Жыл бұрын
@@lisagrayson3302 get this hyena stragg tf outta here!
@BruvahSulaiman
@BruvahSulaiman Жыл бұрын
If you go around and you ask ppl who are successful at anything, business, sports, entertainment, journalism, marriage, raising kids, attaining knowledge, fitness etc. The one thing you will notice is that absolutely none of them, not one single person who has successfully done anything that you might want to do will ever tell you that their path to success was holding the ppl who wronged them accountable or waiting for and begging the system to change.
@LiberianHokage
@LiberianHokage Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why when folks get on they leave the community. Why should any group of Men settle for the worst of their group.
@chasehlee7197
@chasehlee7197 Жыл бұрын
If most men don’t have kids then they aren’t directly responsible for the state of kids. If 1 man has 4 kids with 4 women then that’s on them. How is that the 3 men that don’t have a partner’s fault?
@akinatsukana
@akinatsukana Жыл бұрын
It's always some one else's fault.
@robsawyer8034
@robsawyer8034 Жыл бұрын
Whether a man has kids or not he should never take on another man’s kids outside of blood relatives. Why? Your lineage is protected with your life. Not another man’s lineage due to a woman’s poor choices. Standards and principles
@kingquestOZ
@kingquestOZ Жыл бұрын
That's to much logic
@sweetnessdabutta9985
@sweetnessdabutta9985 Жыл бұрын
A lot of you guys are missing the whole point, He isn't saying that women don't need to do better or take accountability of their actions. He said clearly multiple times I didn't come on here with a bunch of Men to talk about women and their daily mishaps. He said he goes on women's shows for that discussion. He said when I come on men's shows it's to talk about man stuff and how we as men can make a difference in our community. How men can grab hold of other men and plan, strategize, and execute actions to make things better for our young men which will eventually affect the women in a positive way. Y'all so stuck on what the women are doing. You aren't doing what you should be doing in the communities with young men. When did it become a thing that men stress over what women are doing? When you go back to communities and you Coach kids and young men in sports, at rec centers, hold functions, host neighborhood clean-ups. Pick and elderly home and cut their grass, redo their porch stairs that's falling apart, touch up paint their house, fix their lights. You do these good deeds because they are to old to do it and because they may not have anyone else to do it. If you show the young men that this is important to. They will believe it's important also. It's called giving back. This is what he is talking about. That has nothing to do with women. That's all man stuff. Showing up at community meetings to make sure the community is represented and taking care of. Making sure the corner stores and gas stations that are owned by foreigners donate, or aid to the community like they agreed to when they went through the process of opening a business in that community and not just take. These are the things he is referring too. Actually put boots on ground and make a seen and profound difference as men. Not just one man a mass group of men multiple times routinely being felt being seen being heard.
@chasehlee7197
@chasehlee7197 Жыл бұрын
@@sweetnessdabutta9985 we didn’t miss anything. That conversation started with Umar saying that black women that date other cultures cannot bring their disrespect and they asked why should black men here accept the disrespect. No one thinks that black men are perfect, but most men today have not earned disrespect. Plus, do you know who has time to do all that stuff that you’re talking about? People that don’t have to worry about work. I got bills. I’m going to work, I’m going to work out and I’m going home. When I get married and have kids, I’m going to do the same thing but add raise my kids and date my wife. I believe that if we really want to improve the community quickly, then we need all of the good men to find a good wife (no matter where she is or where she’s from) and raise a good family. That extra stuff will come when we have stopped the bleeding. Right now we need to start with the basics.
@ObjectivelyBias
@ObjectivelyBias Жыл бұрын
He knows that American black women are his donation base and will never hold them accountable
@tkellman10
@tkellman10 Жыл бұрын
Yea...... IN A PERFECT WORLD, pookie and ray ray shouldn't exist. But in real life, there's good people and bad people. If women choose to friend zone the good guys and chase the bad boys, that's on them. I wholeheartedly disagree with Dr. Umar.
@KyleSmith-nz4eq
@KyleSmith-nz4eq Жыл бұрын
We have to be the Father to the entire community without getting any respect.
@josiahbutler2254
@josiahbutler2254 Жыл бұрын
ur not getting respect because you failed black women as a whole is what he literally just said, you are listening to respond instead of listening to understand
@Convess
@Convess Жыл бұрын
​@@josiahbutler2254you solve the problem then. Hell no to bastard kids
@knowledgeseeker1528
@knowledgeseeker1528 Жыл бұрын
​@@josiahbutler2254Y'all disrespect everyone and on top of that y'all reward failure.
@HighValueNigerian
@HighValueNigerian Жыл бұрын
No matter what you do, there will always be a pookie and ray ray. If she decides to pick them, that’s not our fault. Life as an adult is living with the consequences of your decisions and taking accountability for those decisions. And that universal truth is not negated simply because they are black women
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam Жыл бұрын
It's our fault in the way that something has to be someone's fault. Women aren't responsible - for anything, self or otherwise. They tell all of us this often and applaud when it's subvertly recognized. The key here is to understand, as a culture, that women are not responsible beings and acting accordingly. Orthodox religions understand it. And they don't even allow them to show their hair.
@ManOfYah-work-in-progress
@ManOfYah-work-in-progress Жыл бұрын
​@@MrColdwilliamThen we must have the AUTHORITY to control them. You can't say they can't be accountable for themselves but also treat them like adult human beings. It's one or the other...no middle ground, there. And if they are to NOT be held accountable, then they get no equal rights...only what WE AS MEN, say they can have, do, etc. They can't have it both ways. Can't say they're independent, individual adult human beings but want the accountability of a child. It doesn't work like that, brotha.
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam Жыл бұрын
@@ManOfYah-work-in-progress look at it like this: if your kid says "I'm a big kid, I choose my dinner, I choose my bed time, and you can't tell me nothing" are you going to listen to that? Negotiate with it? Authority isn't given via negotiation - take it without discussion. And if she's not on that accord she can go drown in this flooding world herself. There is such a thing as loser, useless, women. The sooner we get that the better off we'll be. Also, there ARE NO equal rights! This is a myth. Women in no way want to treat men the way they want women to be treated and in no way want the shame, accountability, or consequences they want men to experience. Believing that is believing your kid about seeing the tooth fairy. Smile, nod, and get back to doing what needs to be done. It does not mean mistreat them! Love them and respect them, but do not give them half or whole ownership or leadership of any life circumstance. Unless she is a non-westernized woman, they for the most part do have an understanding of shame, accountability, and consequences.
@BraveStarEric
@BraveStarEric Жыл бұрын
@@MrColdwilliam very good point sir. Woman have too much freedom. They need to be subjugated like Muslim woman in order to right the ship.
@BraveStarEric
@BraveStarEric Жыл бұрын
@@ManOfYah-work-in-progress amen brother!
@mark01ization
@mark01ization Жыл бұрын
This is the biggest bull ish I ever heard. Instead of women choosing good men he expects the good men to teach the Pookies to be better? GTFOH. The good men need to leave these single moms behind until they learn to choose better. Mentoring their kids would only gives further incentives to keep choosing Pookies.
@tomico2788
@tomico2788 Жыл бұрын
But your Missing the point!! It's only irresponsible men you say out here for the women to choose,then it's the absence of the father of the pookies and Ray Rays!!! Talk crazy to the father's of the pookies and Ray Rays for not stepping up and raising their sons into Manhood!!!
@mark01ization
@mark01ization Жыл бұрын
@@tomico2788 play step dad without even getting the box.
@kingsmitty2043
@kingsmitty2043 Жыл бұрын
​@@mark01izationyall niggas say any anything. So it's playing step-dad to help out the potential pookies b4 they end up killing us later on ?
@ashdacraft
@ashdacraft Жыл бұрын
@@mark01izationproof that y’all can’t actually do stuff for community without it involving something that benefits you. You can mentor a kid without fucking its parent-boys and girls club exist
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
@@ashdacraft Hell no we cant. Pookie got the puzzy and all the goods but we get to be the mentor???? Fuqouttahere
@Lover-ur4te
@Lover-ur4te Жыл бұрын
This is a 100% fact. I dislike when people are being given some great information and they say “but what about them”. Don’t worry about them. Worry about being your best self. Everyone. If everyone is their best self, there are no pookies.
@thatnickuh
@thatnickuh Жыл бұрын
There’s nothing new about the bs Umar is peddling g. It’s nothing steve Harvey, derrick jaxn, Oprah, and million others haven’t said over and over and over and over. Victimizing and infantilizing black women is how we got here in the first place. Umar the clown talks about systems but won’t speak on how black women are complicit with the system. They weren’t abandoned, they’re the ones who jumped ship with black feminism. Until that’s addressed the community will continue is spiral down the drain. Expecting black men to lead a community of Benedict Arnold women back to righteousness is a pipe dream
@Mook05
@Mook05 Жыл бұрын
That sounds ideal. Here in the real world there will always be rotten apples. You still have a choice to eat or not.
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
I can tell ur a woman because theres no logic. You sound like youre high on LSD
@Lover-ur4te
@Lover-ur4te Жыл бұрын
@@Mook05 Yes but that's not the point. Of course speaking from the perspective of observing results, yes there will always be rotten apples. But if everyone looks at themselves and becomes greater, there wouldn't be. Yes ideal, still true.
@ninagrace-lee8323
@ninagrace-lee8323 Жыл бұрын
In these conversations, all black single moms end up with Pookie. All black women divorced end up with Pookie. And suddenly no body knows a Pookie but everyone knows a single mom 😂 If every Black man raised a black boy and kept the others in line, Pookie couldn’t thrive and kill off other black men. Not sure how the other commenters haven’t done the math The biggest threat to a black man is heart disease and another black man. Taking accountability saves OTHER black men’s lives 😂
@matthewwatkins36
@matthewwatkins36 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Umar isn’t wrong. As a “black” man in America, I know a few “black” men that don’t take care of their children. My father is an example. It’s on us as men. The women do have some blame in their own actions but only us can fix OUR issues.
@trippleseven37
@trippleseven37 Жыл бұрын
There’s always going to be bad apples, no matter what race they are from. The point is, avoid the bad apples. That’s the only way you can build a better community.
@poindextersheelturn436
@poindextersheelturn436 Жыл бұрын
What if the apples is 70 plus percent of the tree? Would you save that tree?
@trippleseven37
@trippleseven37 Жыл бұрын
@@poindextersheelturn436 I’ve already moved on from that tree, but for those that want to remain, that’s the best option.
@LesA.R.6568
@LesA.R.6568 Жыл бұрын
PURGE!!!
@thadonjuan2339
@thadonjuan2339 Жыл бұрын
​@@poindextersheelturn436 its not 70% so you question is pointless. The problem is black women want to date and procreate with degenerate men.
@JusDion
@JusDion Жыл бұрын
Phrases like "there's always" and "that's the only way" are the perfect way to trap yourself in a cycle of resentment and stagnation. Why try If there's always going to be bad left over? You sound defeated. If you're a man you would find another way to make it happen. you don't hear white folks talking about there's only one way to do shit.
@FlavoredGenuine
@FlavoredGenuine Жыл бұрын
Hell to the naw! She must take responsibility for the poor decisions she has made for herself and it’s not the black man’s job to solve all problems for her.
@truthbtold8697
@truthbtold8697 Жыл бұрын
Booooy you know he can't say too much..HIT THE CASHAPP, HIT THR CASHAPP, HIT THE CASHAPP😂😂😂
@j.ronnygibson
@j.ronnygibson Жыл бұрын
I agree. Some of the stuff Dr. Umar said I'm staring tot disagree with
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@truthbtold8697incel response
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@lisagrayson3302the black community black men create pookie
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
​@@j.ronnygibsonblack men create pookie.b
@y2adre
@y2adre Жыл бұрын
I find it disingenuous to say he made good points. He places all blame on men. I say this, as a black man, take care of yourself and your family. Make sure they get ahead. That is how you make the community better
@Skalawaswarmy
@Skalawaswarmy Жыл бұрын
THank you brother, I am happy there is still some sense around
@SS-fb7zd
@SS-fb7zd Жыл бұрын
Start at home
@Orianasama
@Orianasama Жыл бұрын
Taking care of your community is how you make your community better. That’s all he’s saying. Individual responsibility does not absolve you of collective responsibility. ✊🏾
@shemshap
@shemshap Жыл бұрын
Another defensive crybaby that is thinking on a small minded individualistic level instead of thinking about community, whatever man
@Skalawaswarmy
@Skalawaswarmy Жыл бұрын
@@Orianasama you can't expect to give someone responsibility without authority, I don't know why it's so difficult to understand? Maybe because y'all think men solely exist to make women's lives better but it doesn't work that way. Only way is if women pick better men and follow those men's lead. Who doesn't want to follow will get left behind, you can't safe everyone!
@Crettyface1
@Crettyface1 Жыл бұрын
The day men/women take accountability FOR SELF and stop worrying about the opposite gender💫
@ttoo6463
@ttoo6463 Жыл бұрын
SAY IT LOUDER and MORE
@anthonypearson5840
@anthonypearson5840 Жыл бұрын
He actually said woman can't talk to Men overseas like they do us but that's men's fault lol. 😂
@scinnyc
@scinnyc Жыл бұрын
🤔Who's fault is it then?
@bodirockbeats
@bodirockbeats Жыл бұрын
@@scinnyc the fault of the women with bad attitudes. any more questions simpleton?
@scinnyc
@scinnyc Жыл бұрын
@@bodirockbeats 😆Funny, because women don't talk to me like that. I guess being a man who can actually take accountability for myself and who I choose to deal with makes me a "simpleton". Meanwhile, n!ggaz like you get on the internet b!tchin' & moanin' about women all day and then wonder why women don't like you🤡
@lateiro6845
@lateiro6845 Жыл бұрын
@@bodirockbeats Actually dumbass, it's the man's fault for not making the woman fall in line or respect him.. a woman who will talk out the side of her neck to you doesn't respect or fear you, dummy. LOL.
@stephanielove2662
@stephanielove2662 Жыл бұрын
Man I play video games and I hear the youngsters black Boys and girls calling each other b words and more smh.😢
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
It really shows they've never had to solve a community problem smh . My country in Liberia is struggling so im investing in a farm so it employs hundreds of kids and it will feed them. I apply for grants and send what money I can. Thats just a taste of how to solve systemic problems.
@cartoon171
@cartoon171 Жыл бұрын
Bro you’re admitting to child labor y’all grown Ass men can’t work?
@loveizdaonlyway9406
@loveizdaonlyway9406 Жыл бұрын
Don't try to compare ..struggles....
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
@@loveizdaonlyway9406 I'm aware your access to land is extremely difficult compared to an African, I only made an example to show how you approach systemic issues. Food , education, shelter , security , etc are systemic things to solve . Umar is choosing to address education
@analyticalmindset
@analyticalmindset Жыл бұрын
@@ErieShay Them and their whole community. This place is toxic if you're a community problem solver. You'll just keep knocking your head against the wall listening to these base level attempts at solving systemic issues. Like they say "Everybody ain't trying to be no Pan African community builder". Little do they know most men have to buy into that mindset in order for the community to function and get the respect from American women ( as a whole ) that they feel they deserve . Like Kojo said you have to address the macro while also simultaneously acknowledging the micro.
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
I love how you don’t even realize what you admitted. You think to solve the community problems, just throw money at it. Guess what? The black men already have their tax dollars going to help these women, billions and billions of dollars I’ve already gone into our community and what happened? Nothing. And the same in your country, just throwing money at the problem isn’t going to solve it, you actually have to get to the root of why there are so many children that need help, why your country is struggling, you can’t just simply throw money at the solution if you don’t actually know what the problem is. There are a lot of problems that are bigger than just money issues my guy
@AliveBoldTV
@AliveBoldTV Жыл бұрын
It’s painful to watch colonized minds at play…Dr. Umar was speaking at a systemic level and they were not getting it at all. It’s a testament to the state of affairs. The biggest takeaways: 1) take accountability 2) read up on those statistics and get to work!
@xgodofme
@xgodofme Жыл бұрын
You can’t compare bm marrying outside the race to bw marrying outside the race lol… it simply means that bm propose more than wm propose.
@goatnation4042
@goatnation4042 Жыл бұрын
This is the perfect example of hearing the msg but just not at a stage in life to understand it. He is talking about rebuilding a community they are talking about finding a mate. Both have valid points but its like comparing an ice cube to an iceberg. I loved this topic great show!
@asundelgun3487
@asundelgun3487 Жыл бұрын
Nope he is talking about holding people accountable for other people's actions. He literally contradicted himself when he said men are accountable for the poor choice they make in women and also accountable for the poor choice the women make in men. Lol no other race behaves that way since he loves to bring up other races. The white people that are clicked up and hold strong in their community don't bother anyone. Same as for any other race of people in the US. The difference is when the Chinese woman was offered government assistance in exchange for her man, she turned it down.
@michiganrico2802
@michiganrico2802 Жыл бұрын
BLACK PANTHERS BLACK POWER
@JayRBG.
@JayRBG. Жыл бұрын
🎯 exactly, his speaking of the collective and Eli talking individualism
@kelseyhahn4737
@kelseyhahn4737 Жыл бұрын
I feel like everybody was on track but dude with the braids it’s like everything was going over his head he was trying to make it about him personally
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
Communities are built my families in terms if society. you have to find a mate and like minded people to form norms and a culture amongst yourselves. How can you have or even rebuild a community with women who ultimately are too destructive in their mate selection? You cant. 🤷🏾‍♂️
@GioBlacklister
@GioBlacklister Жыл бұрын
Nah, I’m good, this ain’t baseball, I’m not batting cleanup.
@drboyce
@drboyce Жыл бұрын
Excellent discussion brothers
@arshiealjohns931
@arshiealjohns931 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never been a Dr. Umar follower or fan. But this interview was 🔥and he was hitting Black Culture in the jaw.
@lynellb
@lynellb Жыл бұрын
Str8 IN the jaw, upper cut and dropkicks
@altp2442
@altp2442 Жыл бұрын
😊 bullshit! All black men just one is their women to be accountable for their words and actions and show l respect
@AdamAllen
@AdamAllen Жыл бұрын
💯
@SPLASHGOD575
@SPLASHGOD575 Жыл бұрын
Why because he was kissing y'all asses lol
@TheQuenisha1
@TheQuenisha1 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Umar, is speaking nothing but truth
@MrHearddat
@MrHearddat Жыл бұрын
It takes individuals doing the work to make a collective.
@geraldtone5914
@geraldtone5914 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, he acts as if the "collective" is going to tell people who to sleep with. People are going to make individualistic decisions regardless.
@thadonjuan2339
@thadonjuan2339 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!
@truthsetyoufree
@truthsetyoufree Жыл бұрын
but not enough individuals are doing it as a collective
@truthsetyoufree
@truthsetyoufree Жыл бұрын
@@geraldtone5914its about who to tell people who to sleep with but taking care the black boys so they don’t end up being miseducated.
@MrHearddat
@MrHearddat Жыл бұрын
@@truthsetyoufree if I'm not off base a bit. Dr King started with an individual dream that became the groups dream.
@b.martin6964
@b.martin6964 Жыл бұрын
Damn, can he let somebody complete a full sentence without cutting them off.
@gabezeb9293
@gabezeb9293 Жыл бұрын
No it's called "grand standing"
@magnumstrike1
@magnumstrike1 Жыл бұрын
They were countering his points too well
@xxxtrddy
@xxxtrddy Жыл бұрын
@@magnumstrike1HIS POINT was not to raise another man’s children but to have your own with a black woman who doesn’t have any and raise them to be gods people for themselves and for our community. But still be a MENTOR AND a father FIGURE for those who don’t have that. NOT RAISE THEM OR USE THEM TO GET TO THEIR MOTHER.
@magnumstrike1
@magnumstrike1 Жыл бұрын
@@xxxtrddy oh no I got that, I think most guys get that but the part y'all are missing is where does the lesson come in and how do you handle the root of the problem? You can mentor another woman's kids all day for the rest of your life but are you sure she's going to stop hooking up with the wrong men? Same goes to the biological father, assuming in this scenario he is a deadbeat why would he stop doing what he's doing if he isnt held accountable for his actions? If he knows his kids are taken care of he might keep doing what he's doing, he'll hand over a little child support happily. Neither adult is really facing consequences for their actions and because of that they more than likely will continue with their behavior. Dr. Umar didn't address that part, that's why a lot of guys aren't rocking with what he's saying. When men and women complain about each other both sides are under the impression that the majority of the other side is messing up, whether its factual or not but that's not the case here. Umar understands and acknowledged in this conversation that he's telling men who did nothing wrong to help fix this situation and again he's not asking, he's telling...really shaming. You're asking men who made the right decisions to sink effort and/or resources into a problem that may never stop
@nikkimango2649
@nikkimango2649 Жыл бұрын
@@magnumstrike1 The point is not to change grown people. They're likely a lost cause. The point is for those that know better to make sure to teach the future generations how to be better. That means both black men and women on the right path will have to step up as role models and mentors for black boys and girls (not just their own children). If enough of us commit to that mission, the dysfunction can die with us. You think by not intervening you're punishing the grown people who made bad choices, but in reality both the dysfunctional parents and all the "good" black people who failed to intervene are punishing the innocent kids who didn't ask to be brought into this mess but can still be taught right from wrong.
@NS-ox9mf
@NS-ox9mf Жыл бұрын
This was their best show, they got read on their own show.
@Bydabags
@Bydabags Жыл бұрын
This was a great interview with good dialogue. Hitting the bell.
@osa9354
@osa9354 Жыл бұрын
Dr Umar made some valid points. He is commenting on the systems approach to solving community issues and the gentlemen are focused solutions on a individual level. Both are necessary, and both can be done
@craigharris41
@craigharris41 Жыл бұрын
That's because the women made an individual decision to have the kid with Pookie
@motivatedray9729
@motivatedray9729 Жыл бұрын
Umar lame is fxck
@eatshityoutube3271
@eatshityoutube3271 Жыл бұрын
But you cannot have a community effort until you get the individuals on an individual level to come together with a like mind. What Dr. Umar Johnson wants is ultimately called a cultural change. But you cannot have a cultural change without having many like-minded individuals come together under one narrative The LGBTQ are a perfect example of this, they were able to get things done because the like-minded people in their individual formed a community under one narrative And that’s how they were able to force environmental changes in regards to their community
@Kingtutt414
@Kingtutt414 Жыл бұрын
Umar making good points but still giving black women excuses for their lack of smart decisions
@carinaadams6797
@carinaadams6797 Жыл бұрын
⁠​⁠@@craigharris41And the men consistently made and still make the decision to not raise their children, get involved with crime and end up in jail.
@gravecode
@gravecode Жыл бұрын
Dr. Umar rhetoric alienates any black man who made something of himself in America who doesn't have any children, "we created that personality" who is we?
@OthoWilliamsJr
@OthoWilliamsJr Жыл бұрын
Semper Fi
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam Жыл бұрын
Every single man who truly believed that a woman was equal to them or is capable of shame, accountability, or recognizing consequences. They should never be treated like that and they will subtly tell you this and agree every single time you remove the burden of being a sovereign adult from their shoulders.
@ColdDream224
@ColdDream224 Жыл бұрын
@@MrColdwilliam Wow. What you just said was profound. You just eloquently illustrated why I do not see women as equal to men.
@MrColdwilliam
@MrColdwilliam Жыл бұрын
@@ColdDream224 they're not. It does not mean to treat them poorly or berate them. Quite the opposite - you wouldn't treat someone you're socially and personally responsible for and have authority over that way. You'd hold them in high regard, but you're not about to have them make life decisions for you, or even for themselves if you're responsible.
@ColdDream224
@ColdDream224 Жыл бұрын
@@MrColdwilliam You are exactly right, sir.
@supremeconcretefitness
@supremeconcretefitness Жыл бұрын
Ya’ll went in on the podcast love the energy and conversation the fact that ya’ll held your own.
@jonathonbates9490
@jonathonbates9490 Жыл бұрын
While everybody was on their R.Kelly shit talking bout when a woman's fed up there's nothing you can do about it, nobody took time to think about what happens when men are fed up. Well guess what??? You gone learn today! 💯
@bodirockbeats
@bodirockbeats Жыл бұрын
So he tells black women to be nice to Africans but stay mean to black men 😂😂😂
@LesA.R.6568
@LesA.R.6568 Жыл бұрын
GAHT DAWG!!!!
@bodirockbeats
@bodirockbeats Жыл бұрын
@@LesA.R.6568 can't make this shit up!!!! Lol
@LesA.R.6568
@LesA.R.6568 Жыл бұрын
@@bodirockbeats I wish it was something that was made up, cause then at least it would be entertaining as oppose to a embarrassing farce.
@mrlondon1278
@mrlondon1278 Жыл бұрын
I caught that one as well lol. The least they could do is fix their attitudes.
@truthsetyoufree
@truthsetyoufree Жыл бұрын
because the america system got the black women like that. africa and american system is different!
@ItsKDHN
@ItsKDHN Жыл бұрын
WE NEED A SYSTEMIC PLAN! A SYSTEMIC PROTECTION FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOUTHS FOR OUR GENERATION! UMAR is not only talking about SELF. He’s talking about black men GATHERING TOGETHER AND TAKING UP FOR OUR YOUNG MEN IN OUR COMMUNITIES. Programs, big brother influences, team leadership, talking to the young generation and showing them more resources. THATS WHAT UMAR IS SAYING. Getting hands on as men in our communities and help one another.
@mr.culturefreedom2073
@mr.culturefreedom2073 Жыл бұрын
Let the fathers of these kids do it.
@ItsKDHN
@ItsKDHN Жыл бұрын
@@mr.culturefreedom2073 that’s not how black panthers saw it. If they followed by your thought then we wouldn’t of had black panthers of any of the leaders who have paved the way for us. And this is what dr UMAR is stressing. COMMUNITY. Which we have none. Just culture
@kitejohnson515
@kitejohnson515 Жыл бұрын
These men are lazy they will not do it
@sussy-c5486
@sussy-c5486 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@mr.culturefreedom2073
@mr.culturefreedom2073 Жыл бұрын
@@ItsKDHN my step father was a black panther. So I was raised in the pro black community. I was active until i started to recognize how out of pocket all black women are even in the conscious community. To be honest some of the most anti family folks i ever met are the so called panthers. Mofo just having kids, never marry and just move on when ish is over. Well I was married when I had my kids. I did everything the correct way. My kids are in college to be engineers like their father. A man, husband and father doing things the right way has zero time to Captain Save Future and Nick Cannons kids.
@demietriuspreston4162
@demietriuspreston4162 Жыл бұрын
Whew!! The Doctor did not come to play! This was a great & much needed segment. definitely gotta watch the other videos after this one
@impervious99
@impervious99 Жыл бұрын
That's not accurate. There are TONS OF BLACK MEN who are being examples in the community for the women and kids....BUT THEY CHOOSE THOSE MEN. I don't know where he was going with this one. the first level of fixing the community is FIXING YOUR OWN PROBLEMS. C'mon fam...don't do this.
@ttoo6463
@ttoo6463 Жыл бұрын
TRUTH is TRUTH no matter who says it!!! PREACH 🚨🚨🚨
@truftelar2580
@truftelar2580 Жыл бұрын
Please...!!! 😂😂😂😂
@ttoo6463
@ttoo6463 Жыл бұрын
@@truftelar2580 please What?
@truftelar2580
@truftelar2580 Жыл бұрын
@@ttoo6463 This was a load of crap. Which leader allows his followers to make mistakes that hurt the community and doesn't require them to atone for it? Yall go ahead and listen to this gynocratic propaganda...🤣🤣🤣🤣!
@sithlordshellz2149
@sithlordshellz2149 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t take dr umar seriously
@shawnterrance7204
@shawnterrance7204 Жыл бұрын
Dr Umar funny he speaks facts sometimes and then sometimes he just speaks BS this right here is BS what hes saying
@sithlordshellz2149
@sithlordshellz2149 Жыл бұрын
He contradicts himself alot
@peterlopez2388
@peterlopez2388 Жыл бұрын
@@sithlordshellz2149 Umars arguments fall apart if you stop and think about them for 5 seconds. He’ll try to make a point and constantly, examples that prove him wrong flood my mind.
@lamikeDalton
@lamikeDalton Жыл бұрын
right. not on this topic, at least.
@sithlordshellz2149
@sithlordshellz2149 Жыл бұрын
On this topic yes they do fall apart
@SupremeBlackIce
@SupremeBlackIce Жыл бұрын
Shit sound good in theory lol. I’ll be damn if I go door to door and ask how many boys you have? He my responsibility now. 🤣🤣🤣gtfoh
@dominikRS21
@dominikRS21 Жыл бұрын
Umar is speaking about how to make long-lasting change, a community at large weeding out the generational trauma of men who can be come good mates for future black women; however, the question at large is how do we remove the divide between men and women now. It's hard to worry about a community when I'm still trying to create my own family
@ninagrace-lee8323
@ninagrace-lee8323 Жыл бұрын
You can’t remove the divide until you fix the problem. As you can read in the comments, most black men don’t think it’s a problem. How you want to build a family in a community of men that will rape and kill the said family is beyond me. For some strange reason, no one is saying the obvious. The community issue is YOUR issue - you may not be a Pookie but Pookie knows where you live. And will likely steal your car, rape your wife or push your son into the drug game
@xxxtrddy
@xxxtrddy Жыл бұрын
STEP 1: FIND A GOOD BW WITHOUT KIDS. STEP 2: BE A GOOD HUSBAND AND FATHER TO KEEP YOUR FAMILY TOGETHER. (And vice versa she to you.) STEP 3: RAISE YOUR SONS TO BE A GOOD HUMAN, MAN, and FATHER. And your DAUGHTER TO BE A GOOD WOMAN AND NOT PICK A DUSTY POOKIE. STEP 4: RAISE YOUR OWN KIDS BUT BE A MENTOR TO BLACK BOYS AND GIRLS WHO DONT HAVE A FATHER LIKE YOU. NOT RAISE THEM OR USE THEM TO TRY TO GET TO THIER MOTHER.
@BEAUTIKEY
@BEAUTIKEY 19 күн бұрын
Don’t listen to divisive content that doesn’t provide solutions to the problem. We need to stop blaming each other and focus on raising the next generation.
@salihahmad4131
@salihahmad4131 Жыл бұрын
Nah, he bugged tf out😂😂😂.
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
All the way out
@kevinsmith6161
@kevinsmith6161 Жыл бұрын
Expecting black men to solely bring black people out of the hood/poverty is always going to be a losing battle. The reason why people leave the hood and never come back is because they know how toxic of an environment it is, know that there’s systemic oppression at work, and know that most of the people there are too damaged mentally to have a positive mindset to get out. So your best bet is to do what’s best for you and your immediate family when you do make it out.
@vanjones1749
@vanjones1749 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, help whom you can but some people don’t want help they are comfortable with dysfunction and know it’s wrong
@sayeed7255
@sayeed7255 Жыл бұрын
I agree
@lisagrayson3302
@lisagrayson3302 Жыл бұрын
Glad white men don't think like that because I have to go to their grocery stores to buy a loaf of bread. Step up and build something black men.
@Wanderer25
@Wanderer25 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Risking your family's health and safety attempting to save dysfunctional people from themselves. Foolish.
@brandi1294
@brandi1294 Жыл бұрын
Not if everyone pulls their weight and pitches in equally. This could be salvoes within the next two generations if we put our heads together and truly committed
@deronr7560
@deronr7560 11 ай бұрын
Great conversation.
@hermoinegranger-ns1wd
@hermoinegranger-ns1wd Жыл бұрын
These dudes didn't get it at all but this is exactly what I've told my female best friend. Everything Umar said, I've said to women. And they don't get it either lol. Umar is right
@javio.4602
@javio.4602 Жыл бұрын
I agreed with mostly everything he was saying in the podcast except for this 🤣 How is it good man's fault that she picked Tyrone and not him. Even after seeing and knowing all the red flags
@eaglesfan4life996
@eaglesfan4life996 Жыл бұрын
Agreed…Dr Johnson doesn’t want to hold women accountable.
@randomstudent9126
@randomstudent9126 Жыл бұрын
“Tyrones” exist as a result of absent black fathers, guys this isn’t a hard concept to wrap your minds around
@takabunnie3077
@takabunnie3077 Жыл бұрын
Beacause love is a trial and error thing. You live and you learn.
@bcollins745
@bcollins745 Жыл бұрын
He didn't say its the current mans frault... he just saying to give grace and be mindful of why she is the way she is
@tdup191
@tdup191 Жыл бұрын
​@@bcollins745 lol these 304s not giving dudes no grace tho
@christopherwalken5983
@christopherwalken5983 Жыл бұрын
You can't change people who don't want change. The black community is the Titanic. Save yourself and whoever else is worth saving, and leave the rest lost at sea.
@lethal1415
@lethal1415 Жыл бұрын
Sad but true
@livelifegrow420
@livelifegrow420 Жыл бұрын
Not sad or true... if that equals the Titanic. The white community equals Hitler and the little girl that is smiling while a African American is hanging from a tree on fire burning alive. U know the picture
@12gossip90
@12gossip90 Жыл бұрын
Sad to hear this but it's true
@ramonejohnson911
@ramonejohnson911 Жыл бұрын
very tru but there are still ppl who can be saved
@clockehvac1240
@clockehvac1240 Жыл бұрын
​@@ramonejohnson911pool is dwindling day by day.
@shaniquajohnson9490
@shaniquajohnson9490 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Dr. Johnson
@rolandhayes2000
@rolandhayes2000 Жыл бұрын
Friend of the family moved to Uganda in 2017. Met and married her husband there. Child celebrated her 1st birthday this year. All are extremely happy.
@j.t.k.90
@j.t.k.90 Жыл бұрын
All liability, no authority. The US military won’t even allow that. I don’t know about sending my son to simp academy. Let’s take his advice black men and home school.
@greg89kelly
@greg89kelly Жыл бұрын
Dr.Umar wild for this stance while not being married to the mother of his children.....😂😂😂
@Youlovecorya
@Youlovecorya Жыл бұрын
Great interview. I enjoyed listening to it.
@MindMyAngles
@MindMyAngles Жыл бұрын
It's hard to have these conversations with people who haven't connected to something bigger than themselves. Too many living in the moment and for themselves. No connection with the ancestors/their roots, is a consciousness, unaware that they have and have had a play in the past, present, and future. Your mindset today, impacts the whole of OUR story. And this is the accountability that Dr. Umar speaks to. It's unfortunate that there are still so many that's missing this and fail to awaken to the fact that we are ONE people, and collectively carry this responsibility.
@godsdaughter1264
@godsdaughter1264 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Allllll of this!!!
@bluseptember
@bluseptember Жыл бұрын
Bro just contradicted himself hard as hell😂
@bemove57
@bemove57 Жыл бұрын
62 times
@troykelso4409
@troykelso4409 Жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!! 💯
@coreythomas3633
@coreythomas3633 Жыл бұрын
YOU HAVE COMPREHENSIVE PROBLEM
@logicalmalethink4925
@logicalmalethink4925 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the guys went easy on him
@lisagrayson3302
@lisagrayson3302 Жыл бұрын
​@@logicalmalethink4925 they went easy on him because he was right😊😊😊😊
@MaxxHDROM
@MaxxHDROM Жыл бұрын
We need more black male tutors in the black community.
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
We need a Black Mafia
@MaxxHDROM
@MaxxHDROM Жыл бұрын
@@RKG5A5 Bro... i agree with everything you said. but two things can be true at the same time. And though I had to really listen hard to this vid cause i hate that Dr. Umar seems to invalidate your above points. One thing he is correct about is that these women are infecting our society with the pooky and ray rays (though he didnt say it that way). thats why i said we need more black male tutors to try and inspire them. this is coming from the son of a single black mother who escaped thanks to the discipline instilled in me by the army.
@CognacMack
@CognacMack Жыл бұрын
It's not black women's fault that they weren't raised correctly however we are adults now so it is absolutely their responsibility to correct themselves. But anyway, Go where you are appreciated fellas, i found my wife in Africa, the treatment is literally not even comparable. Let natural selection run its course on these modern women
@burritobob69
@burritobob69 Жыл бұрын
Does he not realize in order to have these families we NEED the women to cooperate?! They want us to do certain things as standard but will not comply to anything. It’s actually insane…
@malikawilson7071
@malikawilson7071 Жыл бұрын
@h2oGiovanni and what should they comply with? From these comments there’s no ACCOUNTABILITY and BM complain the most about being leaders protectors and providers 😂 women don’t respect men who don’t give them anything to respect….
@8213apice
@8213apice Жыл бұрын
You don’t money or power. No woman is going to Submit to a man that has nothing to offer. You keep taking providing out the equation.
@hobi-wan-kanobi2016
@hobi-wan-kanobi2016 Жыл бұрын
@@malikawilson7071say it louder !! 😂
@flamingrage100
@flamingrage100 Жыл бұрын
@@malikawilson7071yeah, because bw are so readily and quick to raise some random niggas kids. Foh
@demarcushunt6463
@demarcushunt6463 Жыл бұрын
@@malikawilson7071 can’t be a leader when y’all don’t fucking listen moron.
@legisens3198
@legisens3198 Жыл бұрын
Powerful message Educational Thanks Bro's
@marquismills8313
@marquismills8313 Жыл бұрын
Y’all doing great, great interview
@lynellb
@lynellb Жыл бұрын
I cannot understand why dr. Umar is misunderstood in this particular interview. In addition we must stop hating on each other, the competition mindset amoung us is ridiculous! But nothing changes until the mind does 🤷🏾‍♀️
@princessg4100
@princessg4100 Жыл бұрын
How can you deal with something systemically if it doesn't start with the individual?
@joeyq.5606
@joeyq.5606 Жыл бұрын
Everything falls on men at every turn 😅 got the message… Women are perfect. We are the problem 🤣🤣🤣
@2ceeze893
@2ceeze893 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I have never disagreed with Dr Umar so vehemently. I've supported this guy since 2008 and I pray he isn't turning into Derek Jackson. This is shockingly disappointing
@Bigmoney333
@Bigmoney333 Жыл бұрын
Ok question. If single moms are made because she didn’t grow up with a dad ? Why is it there are plenty of single moms that grew up with both parents in the house hold? What’s the excuse for them being single mothers ?
@cmunnerl
@cmunnerl Жыл бұрын
Single moms aren't made for that reason
@banks615
@banks615 Жыл бұрын
Umar is ignoring the point they're trying to make about bw overlooking bm worth marrying in favor of bm of lesser quality...
@Jupiterxice
@Jupiterxice Жыл бұрын
Umar is pandering bear to these BW. BM are not going to be the scapegoat and we are not responsible for BW bad decisions. Use BM know our worths and value in this new era. Thanks to late great Kevin Samuels he gave us that knowledge.
@beazdakid1988
@beazdakid1988 Жыл бұрын
Umars message is real. And way more real than Kevin samuels. Stop sucking Kevin samuels I like Kevin but y’all be acting like everything he say is bond. We do gotta do more for our young brothers. But black woken gotta be more accepting of the help from our black men.
@Jupiterxice
@Jupiterxice Жыл бұрын
@@beazdakid1988 yah lol we are doing more for young BM. Informing them to stay on your purpose and dont let these modern feminist BW derail you. And also stay away from pander derrick jax and guys like you.
@Kevindeal1987
@Kevindeal1987 Жыл бұрын
@@beazdakid1988A young bm would be a fool to think about saving this trash community.
@alfordelliott6943
@alfordelliott6943 Жыл бұрын
​@@beazdakid1988then stop sucking off umar Johnson and hold both accountable. Umar is straight foolish and only a simp listens to this 🗑️🗑️🗑️
@ItsKDHN
@ItsKDHN Жыл бұрын
@@beazdakid1988 THIS! All I see is black men say “me me me me me me me or I I I I” ain’t no VILLAGE SPIRIT. Ain’t no COMMUNITY.
@Goodmanj1221
@Goodmanj1221 Жыл бұрын
This is a GREAT! Debate!
@Stevenwoodz
@Stevenwoodz Жыл бұрын
I think doc is missing the fact that black men can’t raise these black boys BECAUSE THE BABY MAMA WONT GIVE THE CHILD TONTHE DAD!
@joethompson9612
@joethompson9612 Жыл бұрын
How we hold black men accountable when our sisthas reward them better than they would a good man?
@shawn_and_one
@shawn_and_one Жыл бұрын
Umar’s argument is great in a perfect world, but I think the community in most places is too far gone. The power struggle between men and women isn’t going anywhere. From my own personal experiences with my own family members, you can never do enough. You help and you help but they still fight tooth and nail to be as fu@k as they were before you gave them a helping hand. The words you aren’t better than me will be said…
@elreytriton
@elreytriton Жыл бұрын
This argument would be great if it was directed at 35+yr old men. Not the 20-30yr olds. 80% of black men under 30 have no kids. These men are not responsible for bitter single mothers. That's why the men on the couch and comments are like nahhhh the niggas shooting up the community are not young enough to be our children
@LesA.R.6568
@LesA.R.6568 Жыл бұрын
Umar's argument is pure stupidity to anyone that thinks. You CANNOT help those whose don't want to be help, or don't appreciate the help you do give them. You're gonna blame me for your jackass decisions. Any individual that believe that are just as stupid as they look.
@emotionalexchange
@emotionalexchange Жыл бұрын
Instead of holding your helping hand to yourself. You can Use your resources for strangers who would value your giving. For people who are seeking help. For children who don’t have options.
@shawn_and_one
@shawn_and_one Жыл бұрын
@@emotionalexchange I hear you, but I ‘ve been there and done that with my own people. Folks want unconditional assistance but aren’t interested in making adjustments or being held accountable. My wife and daughter are both good caring elementary school teachers in unserved communities. They stories and struggles make them sound like prison guards and not teachers. Why because nothing is going to make up for incompetent or harmful parents.
@liljj2390
@liljj2390 Жыл бұрын
@@shawn_and_onewho cares about the odds! It’s all about not giving up on your community. You’re playing backwards thinking and making excuses. The foundation of a community is built by the men and not the women. And it’s the man and the woman’s job to maintaining that foundation. Giving up on your community means giving up on the children and sending them to the slaughter. We as black men need to acknowledge the problem and do something to solve the problem. Not justifying it and allowing it to continue! That’s a cowardly act!
@ChantelBMason
@ChantelBMason Жыл бұрын
Great conversation
@nastystew6942
@nastystew6942 Жыл бұрын
This community thing gone these days! Everyone is for themselves now more than ever. Technology and social media killed that.
@Rudeboy876
@Rudeboy876 Жыл бұрын
What about the men that are good but the women don’t pick them because he’s “not her type”
@GoddessBlueYozakura7
@GoddessBlueYozakura7 Жыл бұрын
There aren't good men if pookie exists. The places where good men are , they make sure to get pookie destroyed.
@lamikeDalton
@lamikeDalton Жыл бұрын
@@GoddessBlueYozakura7 How do the good men destroy pookies? Do they murder them?
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
@@lamikeDalton Shes babbling. She just loves prison dck
@BrianThaLion99
@BrianThaLion99 Жыл бұрын
Not their responsibility. We must organize among each other
@GoddessBlueYozakura7
@GoddessBlueYozakura7 Жыл бұрын
@@lamikeDalton Omg I have so much to say on that topic!!! I just looked and saw @BrothaMan98 commentary and he's correct it's not my place and not my responsibility. I'll bow out gracefully and let you menfolk discuss. 🤐🤐🤐🤐🤐
@HighValueNigerian
@HighValueNigerian Жыл бұрын
Dr Umar is tweakin 😂😂😂
@TheWinterShadow
@TheWinterShadow Жыл бұрын
Why is this man telling black men to wife up 304s when he has two baby-mamas whom he himself did not marry??? Brother and sisters, being thirsty will be your extinction. Whole people LIKE this accountable for themselves. Check their credibility!!
@ladyabernathy717
@ladyabernathy717 Жыл бұрын
Wow 😢 why was it so hard for the young man to grasp the concept of community?? It was almost like he needed to defend and offer a modern day choice. All wrong 🤦🏾‍♀️ all wrong.
@logent80
@logent80 Жыл бұрын
Umar has to say things to make women feel good so they can donate to his school.
@marclewis102
@marclewis102 Жыл бұрын
You sound dumb
@carlforpresidentanthony4574
@carlforpresidentanthony4574 Жыл бұрын
100% facts
@k.p.bolden7329
@k.p.bolden7329 Жыл бұрын
That his ass still haven't built.
@bodirockbeats
@bodirockbeats Жыл бұрын
BINGO! he knows we don't donate to his ass, he aint stupid lmfao
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