Heil Gas Furnace Clogged and Rusted hacked install

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2 ай бұрын

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@search_eternal 2 ай бұрын

Scotch-Brite Light Duty Hand Pad 6448 is your best friend for a flame sensor cleaning. Doesn't even look like they busted a knock out for any fresh air intake. Thing must be starving for air.

@CommonSenseFishing209 2 ай бұрын

All safety circuits go through jack pin plug to control board. If there is any issue like a pressure switch or flame sensor or limit etc the board should mandatory throw an LED diagnostic code. So.....if it was calling for heating and has the heart beat saying normal operation call for heat but did not work and threw no code means a failed control board everytime. Easy diagnostic.

@midwestg4105 2 ай бұрын

Through your videos you taught me when and how to clean flame sensor. I had to do that on my Trane propane furnace yesterday. What a pain in the ass to get to but I got it done! Thanks, from Indiana, for your videos!! Even though you would probably prefer I didn't and call a professional.....

@my-yt-inputs2580 Ай бұрын

I had an issue with my Trane package(gas pack) unit back in January. Super cold snap with icy roads had just started too. So getting help was at least initially out of the question. First thing I did was pull the flame sensor and clean it. Did not help. My unit was lighting the burners but instead of shutting off after only a few seconds I would get a flame for 10 -15 seconds. The unit would cycle this way for several minutes before resetting and then nothing. No error codes displayed. I pulled the flame sensor multiple times but no luck. Eventually what I determined, through trial and error, was it wasn't the flame sensor(flame rectification) itself but the flame sensor mount bracket. Enough corrosion between the unit frame and flame sensor mount bracket that it must not have had a good enough bond. I cleaned off the flame sensor mount bracket as well as the mounting area on the unit frame and that seemed to have fixed the issue. I eventually ordered a Trane replacement flame sensor that came with a nice shiny copper mount bracket and installed that one. But the issue stopped even before I installed the replacement flame sensor. Not sure why the mount bracket itself needs a ground bond since it is isolated from the flame sensor itself since it is mounted to the ceramic insulator.

@walterrifle2725 2 ай бұрын

4OT steel wool is a nice addition to a service kit

@RayRay-nb7tn 2 ай бұрын

Glad the customer had you replace the unit. I hope you made adjustments on the exit of the exhaust off the ground. Hackers did a great job hacking that install and service calls. Now they had an educational company to rely on for future services.

@CameronKettner 2 ай бұрын

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see any of the knockouts knocked out for the combustion air intake, only the one for the exhaust.

@throttlebottle5906 2 ай бұрын

yeah, previous installer looked like what you'd get from the town drunk for a couple cases of beer(after drinking a case). 🤣

@rando_webb8704 2 ай бұрын

Suffocated flame, I ran into this situation before where the customer complained of the same problem, but when I opened the the combustion door and ran the test fire, it worked just fine. Turns out the system was running a concentric kit and the home owner owner just had the roof done. The roofers cut off the flu cap ant it was sucking exhaust into the intake.

@robalexander7348 2 ай бұрын

Good job Ted, and i still get a smile when you arrive at the job, and close your squeeky drivers van door 👍 Au

@natepeterson7145 2 ай бұрын

That furnace has a bulliten on reamin out the pressure hole port on the inducer so water doesn't get into the pressure switch tube.

@TedCookHVAC 2 ай бұрын

Where you working now ?? Service or install or what??

@natepeterson7145 2 ай бұрын

@@TedCookHVAC I work in appliances again. I couldn't handle the overtime with my family. I'm in your neighborhood quite a bit. Hope your doing well.

@danobrien3109 2 ай бұрын

That exhaust looks a little funky at that first elbow Theodore. You may by correct about the pressure switch and it may clear after a reset. I’m thinking the condensate is collecting at that odd joint ( looks like it’s taped together). You’re right about ICP units being easy to work on and they are a real work horse too if installed properly. That one is not. Exhaust venting is incorrect, gas piping is suspect as well, they used a thread saver as a coupling. They also didn’t allow for enough combustion air. Those units require that there be one of the two” knock outs to be used to supply combustion air. They only knocked out the one for the exhaust. The opening for the gas line may not be adequate to provide enough air for combustion . That old control board was used in older ICP units. Knock out the other 2” knock out and your problem is solved for combustion air. You need to repair that crappy exhaust venting too.👍🇨🇦

@user-ox1mp2mo1n 2 ай бұрын

Love your videos. That furnace did not have enough combustion air. When installing as a one pipe system (i never do) you still need to bust out another two inch opening and install a 90 degree elbow for combustion air. thus why it ran better with the door off. Keep up with the videos.

@zackmax7184 2 ай бұрын

That's why Steve Lav wears Gloves.

@billnahorn3939 2 ай бұрын

My flame sensor has been in my Goodman furnace for 24 years without cleaning because I don’t have a 100 dollar bill, now I know you can use a 50 I’m that much closer to cleaning it. Just need to go down 2 more bills . Thank you

@davidbates7429 2 ай бұрын

I bought a house that came with one of those " made in hell" Hiel furnace's. What a pain in my behind. After a year of constant calls to the repairman I had to switch. Never again would I ever have one of those units in my home again.

@teeg3275 2 ай бұрын

I do hate those furnaces Carrier heil tempstar Bryant payne daynnight comfort maker all the same pile of shit.

@douglashunt487 Ай бұрын

Now that’s A/C money right there. Lol.

@scottmaz4063 2 ай бұрын

Good job Ted well done 👏

@clarksafg 2 ай бұрын

Many issues with this one Ted..replacing was the best outcome for this hack job..on those Rheem designs those traps are a window to the exchanger condition as well as running it with the combination door on..if that ignition goes off, something with the venting or draining is a wrong..let me guess the customer went with the cheapest option..lol..man they get what they pay for..

@dimbag1 2 ай бұрын

Great video Sir.

@sknight0391 2 ай бұрын

That trap looked like it had the black death in it. 😎👍

@TedCookHVAC 2 ай бұрын

Shoal did !!

@pelon542 2 ай бұрын

i know many people are against using emery cloth but it's always worked for me

@bobgallo3775 2 ай бұрын

Scotch brite scouring pad works well

@realestateservicessaleshea99 2 ай бұрын

If people would just read the freagin instructions. 😅😂

@AToolWithTools 2 ай бұрын

"Bah, I've been doing this for years" says their very untrained drunken uncle.

@rando_webb8704 2 ай бұрын

The install was crap but the furnace is fine. I dont see why it had to be replaced. The exaust is too long for the diameter of the pipe and termination needs to be fixed. Needs fresh air intake. And condensate line needs repair. Thats it. Other than that that furnace is working just fine.

@throttlebottle5906 2 ай бұрын

oh dear, they have far more issues in that place, because I spied "vanguard" brand polybutylene tubing. hopefully you guys don't even breathe on it changing the furnace, because she'll probably start leaking at every fitting and possibly in the middle of nowhere just because it can(and does). a replumb is in their future, if they well water, it will hold up longer than city water, but it's on borrowed time.

@tonybochiano 29 күн бұрын

Any Coating that may have been placed on the flame sensor has been burnt off long ago

@pstiegman 2 ай бұрын

Maybe carry a Magic Eraser sponge, they are 3000 grit?

@jeffreyjohn2037 2 ай бұрын

Supco makes a cleaning tool. FSC10

@kg4muc 2 ай бұрын

Good find even better replacing the unit right in the end! BTW you racing this year?

@TedCookHVAC 2 ай бұрын

Oh yea !!

@Quentyn73 2 ай бұрын

That trick with the middle finger and a $50 seems like had been trained before

@Firehawk841 2 ай бұрын

what state is this? seems like everything there is hacked

@boeing757pilot 2 ай бұрын

South Carolina, I believe

@philcore4759 2 ай бұрын

not seeing combustion air either

@CameronKettner 2 ай бұрын

Looks like they didn't even bother to knock one of the 3 factory option holes out. Maybe they were counting on the hole they chopped for the trap to be enough.

@sknight0391 2 ай бұрын

😎👍

@jeffsworld2 2 ай бұрын

OMG a $50, how could you. Better get to the ATM before the next call, haha...

@caru3257 2 ай бұрын

He could use five 20s😂😂😂😂

@gerardomireles122 2 ай бұрын

The helicopter 🚁

@nomusicrc 2 ай бұрын

Last How is that code to have the exhaust vent that close to the ground

@TheTerriepearce 2 ай бұрын

When the door is on how’s it getting any combustion air?

@danpresson 2 ай бұрын

I was taught to use steel wool

@hvacjay3201 2 ай бұрын

Is that electrical tape on the flu pipe? 😮😂

@patmadix172 2 ай бұрын

Always laughing when you only half clean but I use a dollar bill or my jeans

@SignorNessuno65 2 ай бұрын

It's almost like these furnaces are made to be disposable.

@RockoRocko-rz7kx 2 ай бұрын

They are 20 years max

@larrysmith9359 2 ай бұрын

You ever left $100 bill after cleaning a flame sensor before?😊

@TedCookHVAC 2 ай бұрын

NO !!

@trinito97 2 ай бұрын

Dont we hate crawling jobs

@japmlp09 Ай бұрын

U and Lav should do a vid together

@CommonSenseFishing209 2 ай бұрын

Bad control board when the board diagnostic says everything is hunkey dorey and obviously it's not. That's a bad board every time. Many other problems I'm sure.