This is my favorite faction. They are so versatile and creative. Its All about how you use them, you need to create chaos to break up formations. Thats their whole goal. I have alot of respect for how accurate rome 2 was with the germanic tribes
@jamreal1810 жыл бұрын
I hope CA will add several units to Suebi & Pontus.
@TheNanoSan10 жыл бұрын
Yes, they also should have made the wolfwarriors available for everyone, not just for the DLC owners! :)
@MD-vo3um10 жыл бұрын
Do a Suebi campaign in the future! It would be super challenging and fun to watch!
@NobleNemesis3 жыл бұрын
I know you posted this almost a decade ago but: Been a bit, but I think it was: Round Shield Swordsmen x4 as my shock troops Sword Masters x4 as my main infantry, Wodanaz Spear x 6 for covering flanks/dealing with cav, 3 Noble Riders (including General) for effective flanking, and two scout calv to wipe up the retreat and to act as your archers. There was mixup, but..This setup was my default army first time playing through with Suebi story and I found it effective if you were mobile enough. It was especially effective if you could back up the army with another army of Berserkers, wolf warriors and other light/fear-based and often disposable units.... To catch your enemies in the open, or best of all, at night in ambush was often a guaranteed route and massacre. Alternatively, you could have a support army of artilery- whatever the situation calls for. All of this required (for me at the time) expansion as far as the goldmine in Gaul and Istros, and careful city management (Four settlement provinces were the only place to fit and assemble such a huge and effective army quickly, though you still may need to bring calv and special units from elsewhere)- the conquering of the alps for the armor/weapon bonus helps, too. So before you can afford it, you'll be fighting with high casuality small skirmish clans where your round sheild swordsman will be acting as your main infantry, and there'll be more emphasis on damage from spies (Get that general if you can to effect combat morale!), and ambush ahead of time. Basically seizing moments of opportunity Guerilla style.
@williamarthurfenton149610 жыл бұрын
I wish they'd add in the Cherusci faction as playable.
@chrisjohnson78723 жыл бұрын
@Richard Rivera where does one learn to mod?
@camgablecg4 жыл бұрын
Hooked on your channel man, me and a few mates just got into Rome2 and watch your vids religiously. Thank you for all this amazing content, still helping people 5 years later!
@xcadavererx10 жыл бұрын
Heir, you forgot to mention that the Wolf Warriors are part of the Beasts of War DLC. If you don't have the DLC you're forced to spend your denari on the more expensive infantry. Which really cripples what you can bring.
@WhenTimeWentDark10 жыл бұрын
Just before sleep, a bit of Heir is a great mellower! Perfect timing Patchy!
@airafro510 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few of your videos Heir and i have to say you're a great strategist!!!! Keep going man!
@NapoleonBonaparteMAGA10 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a Suebi focus!!! Thank you!!! Awesome video!
@BATTERIESc10 жыл бұрын
scare is so powerful ! Please make a vid heir with Night hunters berserkers wolfwarriors and fire arrows lol
@Ben.....10 жыл бұрын
I have never thought of using the Suebi. You have made me revisit the Idea.
@901kingful10 жыл бұрын
That was a very well executed battle on Heirs part, fun to watch.
@GastonBoucher10 жыл бұрын
Your upload pace is amazing heir, I can barely keep up. Good job :)
@gre3nishsinx0Rgold410 жыл бұрын
the Suebi is my favorite barbaric faction, don't know why I just do.. I tend to use them as a rush army or just quickly flank with them.. an enemy is an enemy but also time and timing is a big enemy.. CA should do something to make them fun again.. i miss those awesome suebi days
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
I love them too; why fight the enemy when you can scare them and kill them while they run?!!
@Sagar_Patelv283 жыл бұрын
Try this.... Get northern coast settlements Then get trade agreement with Royal Scythia , then look at diplomacy map
@filiciaous7 жыл бұрын
Playing the marcomanni in legendary and it is tough as hell, this video gave me a lot of tips and thanks for that heir of carthage. I would also like you to do if you haven't already a fight against rome's best since i am currently facing that. Also it would be helpful if you did some cool tips on keyboard shortcuts and features we did not know in total war rome 2
@CalebAdams4 жыл бұрын
Bro that was a brilliant battle from you man!
@NobleNemesis3 жыл бұрын
Been a bit, but I think it was: Round Shield Swordsmen x4 as my shock troops Sword Masters x4 as my main infantry, Wodanaz Spear x 6 for covering flanks/dealing with cav, 3 Noble Riders (including General) for effective flanking, and two scout calv to wipe up the retreat and to act as your archers. There was mixup, but..This setup was my default army first time playing through with Suebi story and I found it effective if you were mobile enough. It was especially effective if you could back up the army with another army of Berserkers, wolf warriors and other light/fear-based and often disposable units.... To catch your enemies in the open, or best of all, in ambush was often a guaranteed route and massacre. Alternatively, you could have a support army of artilery- whatever the situation calls for. All of this required (for me at the time) expansion as far as the goldmine in Gaul and Istros, and careful city management (Four settlement provinces were the only place to fit and assemble such a huge and effective army quickly, though you still may need to bring calv and special units from elsewhere)- the conquering of the alps for the armor/weapon bonus helps, too. So before you can afford it, you'll be fighting with high casuality small skirmish clans where your round sheild swordsman will be acting as your main infantry, and there'll be more emphasis on damage from spies (Get that general if you can to effect combat morale!), and ambush ahead of time. Basically seizing moments of opportunity Guerilla style.
@faramund98653 жыл бұрын
One of the things I miss most in Attila is the nice unit drawings! Its DLCs have it but I don't really play those. Maybe I'll pick this game up...
@EL_BEANE_GUY3 жыл бұрын
That's insane I didn't realize how much morale damage suebi does. I'm very much enjoying these faction focuses just bought rome 2 as I realize I'm pretty late to the party I'm enjoying my first campaign with the iceni. These videos aged like fine wine if I do say so myself
@Telamonian3 жыл бұрын
There has been a lot of patches since then tho
@EL_BEANE_GUY3 жыл бұрын
@@Telamonian damn. Content still good but I guess it's all outdated then huh. That sucks, I'm a still watch though very entertaining 😅
@hvitekristesdod Жыл бұрын
Enjoying a campaign with this faction now. Club Levys are my absolute bread and butter in large numbers. So cheap and so effective. I don’t play multiplayer though 😁
@zjweelezinie736710 жыл бұрын
Suebi is indeed a risky faction to use, but if you use them properly you should be able to win with them. The point is that they are indeed very weak against enemy skirmishers and most of their infantery is also weak against cav charges. Noble riders are decent, but not really cost effecitve IMO, so you can use them to protect all your infantery. Well played, personally I should use some scout riders to put pressure on the enemy skirmishers and use this to advance your main line. I find Suebi a fun and challenging to use.
@MrMasonthebest10 жыл бұрын
Wow the wolf warrior didn't get 1 kill their OP lol
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
Well with crappy attack and armor they need to use fear as their sword!
@MrMasonthebest10 жыл бұрын
Striker345ify it's funny how they have crappy stuff,but there "scary" or I guess that's how they balanced it.
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
MrMasonthebest I would run at the sight of blood lusted, ax biting, rabid and numerous barbarians that hunt wolves and bears for their head set!
@vnversion5 жыл бұрын
@@Striker345ify I'd run away from a Macedonian phalanx or a Roman Legion, not these guys.
@Pandacat8010 жыл бұрын
I miss old bear warriors and germanic axemen from Rome I.
@DocGrimDeatheus10 жыл бұрын
there is a really good use for the longbow hunters i use them to run a muck elephants it usually only takes one volley of fire arrows and those elephants run scared.
@ProductofWit8 жыл бұрын
They've been updated quite a bit by now. Far larger roster and slightly buffed archers. I have no idea whether they've become good or are still 'rickety'. However, as their roster has become larger they're doubtlessly more fun by now. It's just that these newer Total War games throw so many different units at you it becomes overwhelming. Thinking about doing a campaign as them and playing as the game want me to, very aggressively whenever I can afford it (public order boost from war happiness, they're like the historical Greenskins I guess, just without the waaaaaagh! armies).
@Saucepirate10 жыл бұрын
A good pair to my morning coffee.
@onasknox92843 жыл бұрын
6 years later, same sentiment.
@trygveblacktiger84298 жыл бұрын
Really hope for Night infantery like they can sneak almost upto enamies with out been noticed and can deploy out side the deployment zone but only at night. The drav backs is that they cant do this in daylight and they only use clubs and is vonrble to ranged units. And yes it is historical accuret
@Rellana110 жыл бұрын
seems like if your opponent had had more open terrain to work with,his archers would've been more potent,as the hill obstructed their line of sight.
@lazycouch110 жыл бұрын
There are different hills in different maps, if not then good chance of trees. For the most part anyway, he stayed out of range.
@DarkAnd100010 жыл бұрын
He could also have forfeitted the hill at the start and avoid that uneeded cav fight at the beggining, fighting uphill would be preferable than with the slope diving the armies because he would have better chance to use his archers, he would also be able to kite them back since they outranged the germanic skirmishers.
@ultimatehaydn9 жыл бұрын
Heir could you do an updated faction focus on suebi? just a quick few notes in comments section if no time? THANK you. PLaying suebi in Grand Campaign and just unlocked these horse runners. How do they match up overall skirmisher power?
@Strype134 жыл бұрын
Is it beneficial to regroup your cavalry before charging back in? Or does it not matter when they're all spread out in very awkward formation?
@NobleNemesis3 жыл бұрын
It helps to not have stragglers, but a its a bit dynamic.
@Konstantin-nl4pp7 жыл бұрын
You really need to make an updated video
@bendybus4810 жыл бұрын
if longbow hunters have stalk (can be hidden on open ground) and snipe (can fire while hidden) then can they fire while hidden on open ground? and that would beg the question how close do units start to see enemy units hidden by stalk, before or after 125m?
@Philipp.of.Swabia3 жыл бұрын
More than thousand years later this faction will develop Porsche xD
@DaddysBalzaq10 жыл бұрын
Please do Carthage soon I wish to see my favorite faction
@Rongaryen10 жыл бұрын
How come you never did Carthage? I would have thought you would have done it with the Hannibal At the Gates DLC section. I only recently re-subscribed when I saw you were doing Rome videos again so maybe I missed the reason.
@business38674 жыл бұрын
Suebi in a nutshell: Beserkers are funish
@bobbyflower200410 жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree on the pikes. Maybe it is because I haven't played the most recent patches but in most cases (in Rome 1 as well as 2) I find pikes to be at their best when used offensively, as to not even give the enemy the possibility to outmaneuver them. Though maneuvering is the most important thing when you use pikes like that, as they tend to get slaughtered if you're not able to keep them in a cohesive formation or the enemy is able to outmaneuver you. Of course you need to support very well with your shock cav and skirmishers. Still, I find it kind of sad that most people only use pikes as glorified wooden stakes.
@vnversion5 жыл бұрын
Well they work well in choke points. And what if you don't have shock cav or skirmishers?
@durinV10 жыл бұрын
For suebi in Singleplayer is better to have longbows or the javelin youth?
@MegaMaeme9 жыл бұрын
Can you re-do this video on the faction now that their units are different? Trying to follow along in-game with my other monitor, and some of the units are completely different in the game right now. I'm assuming they re-did them in the EE? Thanks!
@ADFG001110 жыл бұрын
this game has very low troop variety without mods.And i would have liked that the units in rome 1 would be in rome 2 like chosen archer warband,gothic cav,poeni infantry etc
@mrtreize01310 жыл бұрын
Well heir a suebi campaign maybe?
@alexsitaras650810 жыл бұрын
do higher quality pikemen form up faster than cheaper pikes?
@crummynuggetsfx48243 жыл бұрын
C L U B L E V Y
@TheBacau10 жыл бұрын
Heir could you play a campaign using the Suebi? If you have the chance, please respond to this comment. Anyway, nice video, as always. :)
@gladiator542610 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure after the unit balancing/fixes, suebi have the best shields in the game so they have that going for them.
@totalmadnesman10 жыл бұрын
Yeah but with nor armour ? They still die liek flies ^^
@MrManultra10 жыл бұрын
totalmadnesman I hope there will be a patch that makes them playable in multiplayer and in the campaign!!!
@Altairsknife10 жыл бұрын
can you please do a nomadic tribe campaign nomadic tribe campaign nomadic tribe campaign
6 жыл бұрын
come, sit, share my fire!
@SlayerRiley3 жыл бұрын
be like a spear and have a point! ha ha!
3 жыл бұрын
@@SlayerRiley Spear Men
@cozzaperki10 жыл бұрын
Nice vid mate how do you remove the interface like that for a more cinematic view.
@gingerrify10 жыл бұрын
Press K
@cozzaperki10 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@cultofmalgus13108 жыл бұрын
Arverni are still my fave. Sorry Suebi lol
@natives926710 жыл бұрын
Hannibal at the gates????
@VL197510 жыл бұрын
What is your opinion on barbarian factions having artillery? I know lots of people think it's historically inaccurate and there are mods to take away the artillery.
@NobleNemesis3 жыл бұрын
No reason it couldnt be captured and reverse engineered... I think that's how I stumbled on my first unit with this faction like that; capturing a Gaulish city that had the ability to do so. haha
@ufrickto10 жыл бұрын
Suebi dont have savage dogs???
@asianboy96910 жыл бұрын
Heir what happen to ur Campaign ??? :((((
@ryanpearce41610 жыл бұрын
the suebi should have dogs! and missile cav
@totalmadnesman10 жыл бұрын
All barbarians have the 2 same units. The nobles riders and the noble sword fighters (Oathssworn Heroic nobles and Swordmasters) Which one of them are the best units ?
@totalmadnesman10 жыл бұрын
And what in the part of the 3 cav units ?
@rush4in10 жыл бұрын
You'll probably never see 1 on 1 between these units so you don't really have to worry bout their stats.
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
***** Get's eaten by Iberian Nobles.
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
IBERIAN NOBLES!!!!
@polarbear460410 жыл бұрын
PREATORIANS KILL ALL
@GamingForAnAfterLife10 жыл бұрын
I actually do well with the suebi, you just cant stand their and take arrows.
@franci358810 жыл бұрын
dat wolf warriors xD didnt even fight at all and rauted half of the pikemans
@rohaeliaful10 жыл бұрын
Hi Heir, have you checked how much the Berserkers are over powered now ? please try to do online game and do some build with Berserkers .... they can cut any infantry like nothing !
@rohaeliaful10 жыл бұрын
HeirofCarthage they kill roman evocati too easy... try it and roman infantry became some what weak!
@mellowfellow891610 жыл бұрын
seems to me there is more bad to the suebi than good going off what ur saying
@thqhet732110 жыл бұрын
first
@jamreal1810 жыл бұрын
You have everything set on extreme, right? Blood doesnt stay on ground. Its there for several seconds only. The funny thing here is that CA sells it and its for temporary only... selling a feature that doesnt meet consumer's demand is not right. We buy blood dlc because we want battlefield to be bloody. Where is the blood after 10 seconds?
@stevenbudaya214010 жыл бұрын
if blood doesnt dissapear then the DLC is basically "buy this if you have a $3000+ machine ! yay!!!"
@jamreal1810 жыл бұрын
There is a mod that can make it stay... why cant ca? It causes mp issues if we rely on mods... Aside from that, I want CA to make blood on ground permanent on vanilla because we buy this feature from them and they must be the one to fix it...
@Jr0Music10 жыл бұрын
jamreal18 Did you even read his response? He said that average pc's would have performance-problems with if the blood would stay on the battlefield. Isn't that a fair point?
@CarnivorousTurtle10 жыл бұрын
Weltbürger easy fix. Make a toggle option whether or not it stays.
@jamreal1810 жыл бұрын
Weltbürger Do you know the word "optimization"? Thats why we are allowed to set-up our graphics settings in option...
@northernsines4 жыл бұрын
what the crap is going on.
@totalmadnesman10 жыл бұрын
Man..the Suebi are so weak...
@HeirofCarthage10 жыл бұрын
They are pretty shaky in my opinion.
@HeirofCarthage10 жыл бұрын
They are pretty shaky in my opinion.
@totalmadnesman10 жыл бұрын
They even lose against Arverni and Iceni..thats quit bad. even sparta could beat them quit good up! o_Ô
@SurrealBeanz10 жыл бұрын
totalmadnesman Well mate it also matters in whose hands is commanding as well
@Striker345ify10 жыл бұрын
You can thank CA's Nerfing!
@ross-uw2ig10 жыл бұрын
Suebi desperately need some more units. Their roster is boring.