Helldivers 2 - More Buffs! Complete Overhaul Update is 2 Days Away!

[@alfonzo4552]

I was an eruptor main and it needed a buff. I'm fine with the middle ground frag sharpel. Trade off it's so slow and need stalwart as back-up

[@JustEchoes]

my playtime dropped so much after that nerf, that shrapel was so fun, even looking at it go boom made me happy

[@thatguy5143]

yeah idk what the dude was yapping abt, the eruptor is known for its shrapnel not a glorified sniper

[@xRagingxDemonx]

Facts. Plus, shooting into a group of enemies and killing 2 scavangers when there's like 9 is dumb. Even on the bots side it stopped killing walkers effeciently. Even if there's 2 and i'll shoot the one behind so the explosion hits the "driver" they won't die unless i shoot it twice. For low rounds per mag and how slow it shoots, it was very ineffective at doing what it was supposed to do. I used to use it more than my autocanon to the point i started rocking the HMG because the Eruptor was enough.

[@dapperpotato4243]

I just hope it can 1-shot devastators to the body, or at least to the face like counter sniper. Seriously, the slow exploding bolt action needs to deal at least as much as damage as the semi auto dmr.

[@Pie42795]

Agreed. The Eruptor was busted on release (a well-placed shot could 1-shot a Brood Commander, or take out like 12 weaker enemies, which is wild). However, they removed the shrapnel and said "oh, but we're buffing the explosion damage, so it'll feel like an overall buff..." Except that its single-target damage is no longer amazing and it can't get through armor, and its explosion radius is far too small for it to work as an AoE weapon. Shrapnel really is what made the weapon work well.

[@Szabjack]

Johan seems such a likeable guy who just wants his game to do well. Really hoping for a bright future for helldivers.

[@matthewgarcia1839]

I believe what the devs might use those ship panels for is for a Helldiver lore database where we can look up all the enemy types (strengths, weaknesses), planet types, environments, etc so we can gather intel on what we’re fighting?

[@rohan0724]

There was a leak a while back about a science officer NPC for the ship, if I remember correctly, the scientist person gave enemy lore back in Helldivers 1

[@derekfleming5536]

See I like this but I’d also like it to serve as like a clan hub as well as that function. If they wanted more regular play and a fun incentive making clans akin to like Destiny 2 or something would be cool. Plus above it I believe it says “Bureaus” or something along the line of a Bureau n anyone is welcome to correct me if I’m wrong but I remember in the early days not long after launch one of the AH devs had mentioned they intended to have it serve as a clan hub later down the line.

[@DroosterH]

That's exactly what they had in the first game. Including the science officer.

[@Just1Ace]

To the guy saying the eruptor and arc thrower didn't need the buff tell him to hush will all due respect

[@Zoultaker]

Eruptor really needed buff, dont know wtf fuck he is saying. Dominator at the moment is way better than eruptor

[@HeavenlyRampage]

Yeah exactly, couldn’t agree more

[@jimmysundberg2376]

Thor, piratesoftware, brought up the balancing topic. You don’t remove a meta by nerfing it, this will just lead to a worser meta. You remove a meta by buffing other things to counter and remove the meta.

[@25xxfrostxx]

Yep. Their likely best option would be to tweak the threats encountered in each difficulty on a level by level basis. We have 10 difficulty levels for them to make changes to and sort of tweak difficulty from the other direction. Don't hinder player capability, bump up the challenge on a more granular level from the other direction. People beating 10 against bugs too easily" Oh no, the automatons caught a bile titan and mounted a factory strider cannon on its back and miniguns on its belly!

[@redfish6549]

There will always a meta no matter what u do.

[@crowbarduck1818]

I don't understand how people care about a meta being op in a pve game

[@GamingWithGeo]

Guess I'm one of the few who doesn't care about the meta in any given game. I like experimenting and playing games the way I want to.

[@jimmysundberg2376]

@@GamingWithGeo I didn’t say anything about keep using the meta. I constantly switch support equipments to try to have fun, but they got severely restricted on 9 and 10 especially when you play bot. Can’t have too much with support weapons like Machine gun, railgun, and arc thrower when you may have gun ships, rocket that can 1 shot you from scout strider. Don’t make an excuse by saying you can relying on other players when you got swarm or constant stun lock.

[@StrikeForce2013]

I think the problem people have had with nerfing is two fold. 1: The nerfs were almost always clearly over done, making the weapons near useless. 2: The nerfs typically didn’t coincide with a buff for a different weapon to add a viable replacement for the nerfed weapon. I think people would be a lot more open to nerfs if the changes were more minor and the patches included relevant buffs to. Think of it more as a rebalancing patch rather than a nerfing patch. Yes I understand it is more work to do this, I am simply expressing an opinion.

[@王沛升]

The most impartant part to me is that it'll breanch off, along with range revert, that will be some great clearing.

[@natehanson9672]

I hope the panel is weapon customization like in the first game

[@alvaroquinterosaguilera2822]

that panel is most likely your clan, or brigade management portal. where you join your clan buds for some democracy time, leave and join clans, complete missions and more. it got delayed obviously

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

I forgot about the clan stuff. I think you're probably right.

[@blakedisberger6766]

100%

[@LcUlric]

I never stopped enjoying this game, but with all these buffs it's going to add some fun new builds for sure. But we still need something new, like the long rumored APC

[@jeffwillsea6757]

Cool to see the arc thrower getting a buff.

[@thememedungeonkeeper]

I'm concerned we still having seen anything about buffing the Assault Rifles. It's the least used primary across the board. Johan himself said he was disappointed how they function in the current game.

[@natehanson9672]

THE SHRAPNEL PULLS AGAIN!!! LFG

[@dutchiedonuts]

Great video and thanks as always for your opinion. What I'm looking for when this update happens is to have fun using different weapons/ loadouts. More variety is good. Thanks for your time for making the video. 🙂👍

[@reeperoni]

The eruptor needed to get its shrapnel back, it was a unique gun that required some skill to understand how to direct the shrapnel into the weak spots of enemies. Removing the shrapnel made it boring and bringing back shrapnel is important cause we need more unique guns that do things differently and not just fire shotgun #3 and AR #69.

[@oneconn9959]

I think that at the end is a voting terminal in lore for super earth elections so my guess is it’ll be used to vote in new war bonds and stratagems, idk why it just always made sense to me that that’s what it was

[@doots2843]

the reason the shrapnel on the eruptor was op is that they from my understanding used the airburst shrapnel, so it did way too much damage, but like they said in the video, it's not going to be doing 9000 damage when it gets buffed.

[@KrodaStagg]

And that is why I believe that people will still cry and complain even after getting their damn shrapnel back.

[@xLisranda]

I'm consistently puzzled when people talk about "where's the new faction?" or "they could have implemented that feature by now if they weren't fixing things all the time." Helldivers had a TEN YEAR lifecycle. The vast majority of players do not play a game for months straight, they put in a few weeks and move on. Perhaps sometimes returning. Releasing a whirlwind of content to try to pander to people who are going to leave anyway doesn't work. We will see their plans when it's time for them to happen. The idea that they're going to blow their whole load in the first year or two of the game's lifecycle is NUTS. A good community for leaks is immensely good for the health of games, unfortunately, Helldivers 2 was plagued immediately with a sensationalist "leaks as content" community online reporting every stupid thing as if it was only a week or two away.

[@dansksjow7612]

Pile deserves more credit for that over 9000 joke lol

[@Madchefred]

Credit for a decades old meme that was barely funny when fresh? Sure, Jan.

[@dansksjow7612]

Damn someone’s in a mood lol

[@shizzlum]

Whoever the guy is in the video that said eruptor didn’t need a buff needs to be taken out back.

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

Don't kill Cookie!

[@Odog78]

​@@SwanyPlaysGamesWe'll force him to play Concord.

[@nerochromatic]

​@@Odog78 Yeeeeah.... about that...

[@redfish6549]

Not saying it doesn't need a buff but again the eruptor is one of the better weapon for bots

[@jdbb3gotskills]

@@Odog78aka you get nothing! You can play NOTHING! Hahaha 😂

[@nitrolight1778]

1:17 nice to see someone else using HMG emplacement, that stratagem is super slept on imo XD

[@dor0071]

in helldivers 1 the second computer was for info about the enemys so you can know what is the weak point and also other stuff

[@thatguy5143]

4:19 its the most necessary, they completely changed the weapon from its release, a false advertisement the playstyle for it changed. Plus the discription still mentions the shrapnel.

[@thatguy5143]

Imagine going to a restaurant then buy a soup (enjoy it, bit salty but it's fine) then a waiter comes out and says "we realized we put too much salt in it", so he takes it back in even though u said u liked it and brings back a bowl of cereal.

[@lords.ruins_]

i think that monitor panel is for cosmetic customization. like the paint for your armor, weapon skins, drop pod and exosuits, but devs were rushed and put it in modules instead

[@matthewsteele99]

eruptor was good even after nerf, but im glad to see it regain shrapnel i loved using it as a long distance weapon to destroy fabricators

[@The_PotionSeller]

It was ok after the nerf, just way too slow. If they took the shrapnel, and made it faster to use I dont think people would've complained as much as they did

[@Deadspace251]

​@@The_PotionSeller nah that just takes away what's unique and fun about it and just makes it just an explosive sniper which takes away it's entire identity

[@owieczkacs]

I was arc thrower user, this weapon was awesome pre-nerf and after nerf. Sometimes its clunky when you aim at things close to you but you learn to play around it.

[@neoramaredzone8544]

The arc throwers going to be really good with it getting its range back and maintaining the stun buff

[@Ra_viel]

Panel could also be an enemy codex, like overall description (could be a good addition for lore), how much armor do they have, what weapons are recommended to use against them.

[@Penguin-holder]

9:21 If you look above the ship panel with the super earth screen, you can see a sign that say “bureau terminal”. You can’t see it in this post tho.

[@Etchfamilyguy]

I think the jar dominator needed the shrapnel or explosive damage more than the eruptor as its labled under explosive. Its not as powerful as it used to be but still solid. I remember taking out most medium armored bugs with like two shots, now its like half a clip and has a slow reload. And it might just be the lable but im pretty sure it was explosive before, it penetrated better than the scorcher with the added explosive damage.

[@cttread1380]

I’ve heard that the panel might be used for a clan system as it’s placed similarly in comparison to the arsenal in the first game

[@ilya.pavlov]

Eruption shrapnel... It seems to me that there should be shrapnel in any explosion, a grenade, a shell, a bomb, no matter what exploded, it had an outer layer, and it scatters in sharp hot fragments in all directions ... in my opinion sounds logical

[@vnom84]

Space Marine 2 came out and the devs knew they needed to lock the fuck in 😂

[@somethinghappened3328]

What does Space Marine 2 have to do with anything of this? It isn't even remotely similar

[@TresTrefusis]

I don't agree, I enjoy Warhammer 40k as a universe and the game looks good, but Helldivers is better. No close air support, no big booms... that's what helldivers excels at.

[@TheDapperSaint]

​@@TresTrefusisit's more of how they both are completely different games tbh

[@Ren99510]

they're completely different games, with little to no overlap in game play style

[@therandomcommenter6629]

Guys you do realise that anyone that makes the space Marine 2 vs helldivers comparison they aren't talking about the gameplay or how 'similar' it is they're talking about the "badass space soldier kills alien scum" premise the reason why these people left helldivers and went to space Marine it's because helldivers doesn't make everyone a overpowered badass

[@calesmart435]

I’m hoping for a tiered, A-B primary/secondary upgrade system some time. For example, 3 upgrade tiers and a choice on each tier between two modifications that change a part of the weapons functioning - something like choosing between faster shooting or harder hitting. Could also include something to do with ammunition modifiers, ie armor pen vs incendiary. Regardless, the 17th can’t come soon enough!

[@Fourger14]

Did you even listen to what the devs said? The Eruptor shrapnel before the nerf was the wrong shrapnel. It was using orbital airburst damage values. Giving it frag grenade level shrapnel will not undo that nerf, it just makes it the weapon that was advertised.

[@vito100]

The Erupter felt totally different after the shrapnel was removed. Glad they are bringing back to it’s original form

[@PennsyPappas]

Cookie is right about one thing that there is SO Much about the game that hasnt been done or released yet. How many different stratagems, weapons, etc... have been leaked since at least March and till havemt come about yet. Like wheres our Air to Air Eagle strike to take out flying enemies or wheres our Squad based bot call ins etc... i do hope that after this update and warbond come out (please be good) that they can go back to focusing on those items.

[@axender269]

Arrowhead's definition of nerf or balance are apparently on a different scale than players'. It has broader effects like overall ammo availability which compounds on how many shots it takes to penetrate enemy armor or emphasis on enemy weak points. So they have plenty of ways to maintain difficulty without touching weapon stats. Balancing based on feedback from the hardcore 5-8 percent of the player base has never ended well for balancing games.

[@jdbb3gotskills]

I wonder what’s with the change of heart? Was it the player numbers? Was it Soace Marine 2? Or was it Sony? Because they went from it’s impossible to revert the flame thrower to it magically happened for this patch.

[@Superhen-du9ni]

Players didn't like it so they changed it. don't know why you don't understand that...

[@Etchfamilyguy]

I think they can keep the buffs and nerfs based on major orders. If we are dominating MOs better buffs, if we are losing MOs nerfs. Especially per faction and types of guns. Giving the community a reason to care about the MOs. I actually thought that was the case until we wiped out the bots and our weapons got nerfed, it felt like punishment

[@markbv591]

I wish theyd make the customization stuff and weapon upgrades cost requisition points instead of samples. It already takes long enough for me to get enough samples for just one upgrade at my level, and the VAST majority of the time, I'm sittin on a pile of 50,000 requisition points and there are no stratagems that I wanna buy.

[@urbanapache2]

Looking forward to having my arc thrower back, I hope they revert it so its not as slow? Cause that is a bummer, the range increase is beautiful, means I can get my jet pack, get up high and just kick bug butt

[@floatedcloth9217]

I feel as though the issue with the eruptor isn't that it's bad, it's that we don't have a sidearm to support (atleast when it didn't have shrapnel)

[@ArquivosPenumbra]

Eruptor might not be useless right now, it is pretty ok, but taking off the shrapnel (even if it was bugged) took what made the gun unique and fun. It just became a exploding round sniper. They should do more of what they are proposing right now, if something is bugged they have to trully fix it, not take away something from the player without giving much back because of a mistake they made.

[@Deadspace251]

Yeah they should really look into them closely before removing them

[@betweentwogrunts2442]

It’s wild that we keep talking buffs and nerfs in a PVE game! Let the devs fix the weapons and let’s all put a pin on this topic and let the devs focus on content and new missions. All these updates are great but will fall short with nothing new to use all these weapons on.

[@RobAlberto_4]

That terminal may be for the company system (klan system)

[@squongus5005]

At this point with the style of content that helldivers is why don’t we have planetary traversal like being able to travel from area to area by calling a ship or something in order to continue an operation I feel like there’s so much potential in the operation system where they could have an insane amount of content I know that is a lot of development but this is something that I wish for in the future

[@neoramaredzone8544]

I just want vehicles and I understand why the operation system is the way it is now because the ship kinda acts like a lobby. It would be annoying to automatically go to another operation without knowing if a randoms just gonna leave between them.

[@nitrolight1778]

The ship moves a fair distance when aligning itself to each mission, would be a long way to travel by other means

[@thathalflatino]

I’m hyped honestly

[@fartdonkey8290]

First time?

[@arielrosado931]

Arc thrower is a beast at staggering hulks so good.

[@hokageobama4003]

I don't know why people won't admit that on launch, the Eruptor was busted AF. It was a primary that was stronger than the AMR and it wasn't even remotely close. It did not fit the level of power we had available to us as primaries.

[@HardWear-bu1dt]

eruptor: have to reload slowly between each shot, potential to damage or kill you and team mates with shrapnel. That’s the downside - plus side is the AOE and damage output. It was nerfed to the ground imo - but I agree the shrapnel needed to be re designed. It would one shot most med armour enemies. I don’t think it’ll do that now.

[@Smurffies]

I always assume the payroll is going to be regularization in a little armored area

[@Teeziq]

the cookout has been my go-to since all these updates. & as of rn, were waiting for the 17th for these changes to be implemented?

[@Guaguadeath]

USE THE ARC THROWER NOW THEN! CAUSE IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU GIVE IT A CHANCE

[@truefell4858]

I guess Twinbeard talked about nerfs overall as they move forward with updates not exactly about nerfs in this update.

[@Link10103]

Its kinda wild how you can listen to them say theyre fixing and buffing the gun because it was actually broken on release and still wonder if theyre gonna make it as strong as it was on release.

[@mljw83]

Just waiting on a buff to the quasar cannon reload time

[@jdbb3gotskills]

Exactly nerfing/balancing is okay. It’s the way they nerfed that pissed me off. Deliberately seeing the most popular weapon and nerfing it to the ground. There was little “balancing” before.

[@HardWear-bu1dt]

I am so EXCITEDDDDDDD 🤩🤩🤩

[@dredgencringequeen6732]

Now I want to play, I can actually use my arc thrower.

[@ZAXT0N]

its ya boy, the guy that wrote that one "eruptor was gutted" post, i dont wanna hear anyone think that thing doesn't need this, you cant even fight one stalker with it as it is now, takes 3 to 4 shots, theyre not bringing it back to full theyre just making it not a throw pick (i still pick it all the time and cope cause its not good, its not even good at killing the little bugs unless its a direct hit), the shrapnel was the heart of that gun and it needs it. im more surprised by the ark thrower, i wont complain cause i love the gun, it couldnt kill titans sure but it can currently still deal with most enemies in the game. (Also how dare you say no one wears the lightning resist armor, i wear the ark resist armor because it looks fucking sick)

[@yunkeacme]

Now we need an extra strategent and we are set

[@Randallsilver]

Finally, fun is coming back to Helldivers.

[@KrodaStagg]

It's always been there, balance babies just threw a big enough hissy fit.

[@MickDeaks]

5:43 new difficulty mode will be called Impossible

[@ClumsyDrow]

I hope they keep everything the way it is overpowered and they can just keep scaling the difficulty leave the weapons alone

[@erfanshojaee-ii2dn]

9:19 you know it would be cool if it was a simulation thingy and we could test our weapons and stratagems in

[@ROBERTSMITH-io7tb]

The eruptor was a difficult weapon to use it was mega powerful but you needed the stalwart to back it up, when it got nerfed it became completely useless against bugs TBH the eruptor would have been better as a support weapon

[@millavas]

i hope they fix the crouch feature. every time i tried to crouch from sprint the character it automatically stands on ground bumps it stands so i ended up getting shot instead of moving under cover from walls, hills or rocks

[@Fr3elancerflorida]

Super Earth had to update its firmware so the weapons got a massive buff. Sadly the Bugs persist still in the year of our Emperor 40k

[@ronin_the_gamer]

Looks like Arcs are back on the menu, boys

[@jordanrowe3608]

I mean…. There’s a sign above the terminal that says Bureau Terminal….

[@mjohns6636]

The eruptor is garbage what is that guy going on about? A bolt action Astartes mass reactive round self propelled BOLT gun!! With long spm and 5 round mag should destroy devastators in 1-2 shits on there strongest spots and after shrap was removed it became useless and should be slightly more powerful then AMR with all the slowness of it.

[@1910alexander]

With all this boffs i am so ready for level 8 to 10

[@mr_lmg9360]

14:30 for a clan system maybe?

[@malguskerensky]

Lets be honest, if they are talking nerfs, the AutoCannon is one of the only weapons not to have one to date... As for the panel, maybe that is the Platoon interface area?

[@Bakemer94]

Railgun is going to overshadow every gun, not the Barely-an-Eruptor.

[@antonyperkins6705]

No let's talk about the fact we can't get help on the bot side for the orbital napalm stirke

[@xipheros]

This buff was shocking.

[@ReloadTH]

Current Eruptor is not “fine”. It’s useable but it’s not what it was advertised to be which is a SHRAPNEL rifle. To say that the current version is fine and didn’t need any changes is a bad take.

[@jlstruyde]

I'd love for someone to work with arrowhead and take all the major orders from day one to now n future mo, and make an animated series based on the past actual major orders also using actual player names in the series, each episode could be a squad of different helldivers also an insight on the enemy side as well leaders of super earth.

[@BostonKnick]

Buff alot of these weapons and just give us hordes and hordes of enemies *wicked smile*

[@TingK199]

Community panel. Voting on the galactic war. Ect. Instead of "whichever planet we liberate first"

[@davidgutierrezestrada2157]

Would arc armor help against the Tesla tower stratagem

[@Ybasd]

Not a single gun was too powerfull

[@patjohnson742]

@@sam-fr5tc Wrong. The 0.0001% complained the loudest about the game being too easy so the devs catered to them and lost 99% of the player base. If you think it's too easy, step up and play level 10 without using any stratagems or weapons other than melee. Do you know how many pistol whips it takes to down a Bile Titan, Charger or Hulk? I do.

[@redfish6549]

​@@patjohnson742if the game is too hard then play in lower diff. It goes both ways.

[@eyeayeinn178]

Eh, the first eruptor was kind of broken. You could just shoot the ground under a charger and kill it in a few shots. That was the main reason they removed shrapnel altogether. Needed a tweak but a complete nerf into the floor wasn't what was wanted

[@HeresGrey]

They need to get the game balanced so they can start pushing out CONTENT i.e deeper customisation, progression, cosmetics, warbonds war progression, missions etc.

[@davidgutierrezestrada2157]

Can’t wait

[@J0hnT0m0rr0w]

On the nerfing by AH so far - what we've seen from the devs has been a philosophy of "keep the status quo". Keep everything at a certain point, whatever that point is. Now the game is out, the devs have seen this philosophy is wrong and they have changed it to be more in line with what the players want. The thing is, in game development, things take time, and as game creators, you have a goal you're wishing to achieve. Going to paint an abstract painting only to realise it's becoming a landscape can be a concerning experience, especially when you have a crowd behind you yelling at you to keep painting that landscape. Do you keep doing your own thing and make it yours wholly, or do what the crowd wants? In this instance, I feel AH has really listened and really wants to work with their fans to make a great game, and we're seeing steps in the right direction. Balance will come, in the form of nerfs, later. But things will be different going forth.

[@drewrhodes9954]

I’ve been using the eruptor against bugs lately and I didn’t think it needed a buff but I’ll take the buff 😂

[@CrawlerFlorin]

I wear arc armor all the time. So does most of my team. Because the Blitzer is one of the most used weapons on the bug side now. So you saying no one is using Arc weapons is one hundred percent incorrect.

[@alexmagyar22]

the panel is for vehicles lol

[@robertamiher]

I fully expect them to make everything op in an attempt to show the community that they were right and everything should be weak cause it's not fun to be so strong, or to add a bunch of quiet buffs to enemies so all these buffs aren't as big as they seem. Either way it's going to be buggy as hell!

[@n2h435]

Send dudes to western front

[@oliverreyes334]

Tell me you haven’t used the Eruptor without telling me you haven’t used the Eruptor.

[@ThePackman627]

Yeah I definitely don't know why he was going on about the erupter not needing that change. It definitely did need a buff If you actually use the erupter it had the orbital shrapnel, and it's not going to get that anymore, it's going to get frag grenade shrapnel and even more on top of that but it's definitely not going to be as potent as it was at release but it will be closer to that.

[@neoramaredzone8544]

Which is fine it’s gonna be better than it is now but less likely to team kill

[@Deadspace251]

​@@neoramaredzone8544 Unless you get headshotted then that's unlucky for you.

[@neoramaredzone8544]

@@Deadspace251 that’s why I said less likely old shrapnel insta killed you no matter where it hit

[@zharkev1748]

People complaining about the previous eruptor need to know that it was a bug that it did so much damage. Like pile said himself it used to to 9000 damage lmao. So you won't be getting g the old eruptor back that would be too ez. People still crying about that need to get better at the game

[@skyfire_swe8520]

Hard disagree about the Eruptor. The devs completely changed that gun when nerfing, basically they sold us the gun and then took it from us later. Everyone wants the shrapnel back. I am worried it won't be close enough to its April state. The Eruptor nerf was the main reason I quit playing.

[@Zerathorne40k]

If you wanna turn your brain off and instant kill everything, go play Destiny 2 or Warframe..

[@OuchThumbTack]

​@@Zerathorne40kDestiny 2 is paypig central slop and Warframe is a loot shooter with RPG elements... Not the same at all. Nice try, Alexus; eat the surströmming.

[@Zerathorne40k]

@@OuchThumbTack That has nothing to do with the gameplay. If you want a "power fantasy" where you chew through hordes of enemies effortlessly with the same 2 or 3 weapons, and you can essentially turn off your brain, then go play the games that give you that experience. Coping and malding because a game doesn't conform to your own personal standards just sounds asinine.

[@SK8GEEK1]

This coming patch there will be nerfs. But there is currently nothing Over Powered warranting a nerf. It makes sense in the future after this patch, that things need to be nerfed and balanced.

[@MickDeaks]

I love everything these guys have said, APART FROM "nobody asked for it" nah man I fkin asked for it... A lot.

[@bigbear7076]

With how badly we are losing the current ops (going to lose the napalm abarage again) we should be concerned over not having enough players to push forward.

[@kenethernandez6246]

We completed the last 2 major orders my guy. We have enough people but kill count major orders are difficult and also a lot of the playerbase doesn't like bots over bugs. Also keep in mind that we use to fail major orders even with a 6 digits player count. AH need to allow us to unlock the napalm barrage through a bug MO. We just came off of a bot MO which we completed but people are tired of fighting bots and went over to the bug side which complicates things when trying to liberate planets again against the bots.

[@TresTrefusis]

@@kenethernandez6246 It also bears mentioning that we don't have to clear the two bot planets to complete the order, just to get the napalm, which I hope we do. I've been counting on the 20,000+ fighting on the bug side to handle the major order and been concentrating on the bots trying to get us the napalm as well. I hope we do both.

[@kenethernandez6246]

@TresTrefusis Yup, that's right. I logged on right now to check on the planet status. We got Mastia liberated, and Tarsh is 1/3 liberated with 17+ hours left. I've seen us liberate full planets in 12 hours with fewer players than the 15k on Tarsh right now. It's looking good for us so far. Just need to finish the job, and the barrage is ours. Now, when it comes to the major order, that's a lost cause.

[@Ahsmic]

i hope they don't rush this hot fix and theres a lot of bugs, tbh i would be happy if they delayed the update