Helldivers 2 - The New DSS is Out and It's Complete Trash (Angry Rant)

[@SwanyPlaysGames]

As of finishing up the video Helldivers just tweeted out that the DSS will now have +1 reinforcement per squad member and the FX-12 Shield generator stratagem will be in everyone's loadouts. (This doesn't fix the issue but at least they are aware that the DSS is awful and they are looking into changing the way it works. Keep posting all your feedback to the devs on social media and in the comment section down below)

[@bobbyhill3323]

DSS should give us a mini nuke barrage, double our eagle strats before rearm, and unlimited orbital laser uses

[@xbvrdzc469]

wow! augmentations we wouldn't need if only the devs were ACTUALLY COMPETENT AT THEIR JOBS. thank you high command!

[@Rorchak_B60]

Honestly if they just made the 380 a free strat for every helldiver and let us decide where to bombard.... that would more than make me happy compared to the randomness we have now

[@Grug-xI8v]

Im now reporting you to my democracy officer for hating on the DSS

[@lorenreal7544]

The unique stratagem idea would be tight

[@tankepsilon]

Y'all want less ragdolling? Have constant random 380s!

[@Foxador]

Helldivers! We've heard your pleas for less ragdolling! Yet we found some of you found no issue with the ragdolling that's currently in the game, so in an effort to be equally fair to everyone we're rolling out non stop ragdolling for everyone!

[@Guaguadeath]

Lmao fr

[@neon_horizon4097]

Do people actually hate the ragdolling that bad even without the 380s

[@JC-Alan]

@@neon_horizon4097 I think it's annoying, but I was surprised it was considered a "major issue" by the playerbase at large.

[@neon_horizon4097]

@JC-Alan I don't I feel like if they took away ragdoll it wouldn't be as fun and also a lot of work which could go to something else

[@TheLastMando08]

The orbital barrage doesn’t even target enemies, it’s completely indiscriminate, bruh.💀

[@cemarz]

No. It specifically targets you. You are the barrage beacon. It's a funny negative modifier. But man, that is some bad implementation.

[@shank1013]

Let it rain.. for democracyyyyyy

[@Sammy-xi3cf]

It just got gay again lol

[@NthnLikeCodeine]

I’ve honestly had more teammates killed with the barrage than enemies

[@theInfiniteEgg-z8i]

Why would it target enemies? 😂 which barrage stratagem does that?

[@ShadwRavn]

Had a mission where we lost 15 lives. 14 where the DSS killing is. Shield backpack is a must have

[@Arschlecksandra]

same

[@The8thblock]

i did a solo dive about a 20 minutes ago, and i dropped in, killed one hulk by landing on it, then lost 4 lives in a row where as soon as i landed, the bombardment hit my position. the only upside so far is that the orbital barrage has a chance of destroying objectives randomly. on the same dive i landed close to the eye of Sauron, and it DID manage to destroy the tower after my 3rd death.

[@bigbear7076]

So much for build diversity.

[@ShadwRavn]

@ yeah , if it didn t kill us it would be amazing

[@ShadwRavn]

@ as someone who loves playing arround with a ton of stratagems, being forced to use the shield backpack isn t the most fun thing.

[@25xxfrostxx]

It's absolutely baffling. I can't begin to imagine the thought process internally that led to this being what got released. They clearly still don't playtest but even then, I couldn't even guess what conversations took place that made this sound like anything the players would want.

[@korak2183]

about that thought process, there is none.^^

[@Brakka86]

I just died in a trivial mission due to the bombardment 😂 wtf is this!?

[@yourtexthere1323]

The DSS is about as feel good as scratching the smegma off the rim.

[@HavingCrumpets]

devs lowkey gotta be hounded on twitter

[@OmarTavera]

The thought process surely was the same as the initial release and nerf of the weapons in its time. The developer has an history of making its own games not worse but underwhelming while time passes, so their internal way of thinking is flawed at its base, excellent root idea, bad execution and worse implementation of solutions, with HD2 there is the advantage that they are listening to sense with some players giving feedback and they are implementing those, but internally they are bad at making decisions for the best of their games.

[@neziaojuara1768]

AH devs have this weird fantasy that only exists in their mind that players love the chaos and maihem so the more chaos they add to the game the better. They think people laugh their asses off when they randomly die or are ragdolled to the other side of the the map.

[@E3.20]

A lot of evidence to support that theory!

[@bigboiplays7564]

I mean i laughed a few times when it killed me. But it was a Lil annoying

[@Turnip397]

I mean yeah it’s pretty funny at first but when it’s your 15th death to the goddamn thing then it gets pretty damn annoying

[@SaltySparrow]

This happens WHEN ITS RANDOM. Not every 20 seconds.

[@umngyr]

I mean, i did that, like, the first 2 times. After that it got kind of old.

[@Myythmeister]

The fix to the DSS is simple; Option 1: Make it so wherever the DSS orbits, depending on the kind of campaign that's active, change the operational modifiers. Defense campaigns will have positive modifiers, (Cooldown reductions, shorter call-in times, etc) and offense campaigns will disable them ENTIRELY Option 2: Instead of Eagle airstrikes and Orbital bombardments at random, simply give all helldivers access to every single type of airstrike and bombardment(or just one specific stratagem since there's so many) that they can call in whenever they feel like. At the very least, this would negate the issue of having to deal with randomly exploding at any given moment.

[@muscles_glasses]

Got on last night to see what the DSS was about. My disappointment was immeasurable & the night was ruined. Joined up with some random helldivers & it was a terrible time. Almost like being deemed a traitor & having a bombardment on your head the entire mission.

[@rhetro777]

That's kind of exactly what it is. It clusters around one player at a time instead of falling randomly around the map.

[@Magnusfication]

Its absolutely retarded.

[@corswaincaptain-paladinoft4067]

being deemed a traitor is a little more forgiving than the DSS in my opinion lol. The traitor shells mostly trail your last targeted position (in my experience) so as long as youre on the move youll live. With the DSS you just are rolling dice to avoid being turned into a meat cloud

[@JC-Alan]

@@rhetro777 That's such an absurdly idiotic design decision. Disclaimer that I'm not a game dev, but I am a developer, and just the sound of this is insulting.

[@TurulHEMA]

Dog Shit Station should absolutely be what the community collectively call this thing!

[@Garzor]

Vote this coment please 😂

[@spinone-d2]

dis shit sucks

[@justacomedian]

Disappointing Shit Show

[@JoMcD21]

Dog Shit Station.

[@Aggro224]

Skill issue

[@biohazard9254]

8-9 weeks to release the DSS, and this is the state it’s in. However angry and upset y’all are about the state of the DSS after everything we did to get it, you’re not angry and upset enough. The devs need to be held to a higher standard, this is unacceptable that they thought this was *at all* acceptable.

[@Flameshot_]

bro 100% agree, these devs be getting away with balance patches fixing their own problems as "new content" this game will have its player count freefall again if they continue to be lazy and put out not even slop content, its honestly just liquid crap at this point not even slop

[@Wave_Boi]

Can't even hold the devs to a higher standard cause all the shills sucking on AH come out saying stuff like they're just a small studio or you're just hating.

[@HavingCrumpets]

devs lowkey gotta get hounded on their twitters

[@number1cheater272]

@@Wave_Boi See how dumb you sound? I'm angry and everyone else should be angry! If you're not angry then you're against me. So pointless and you need to calm down

[@TIMOSTERRORS]

You need to show more humility. this is a 50 usd game. All the updates have been free. To say the devs aren’t accountable is bull. One of the only games that’s constantly updated based on community feedback. Not everything is a hit. If you’re so bad that the dss ruins your day, try another planet until the changes arrive

[@dustyfedora]

I don’t get why it can’t have all 3 features active at once, you’re telling me the massive space station with hundreds of millions of staff members is only capable of utilizing one weapons system at a time.

[@bigboisnail]

And dont forget theyre all aiming at you

[@lukebas1162]

Incoming 120 day plan to fix the DSS

[@martinrolfs7354]

Not funny

[@PatrioT76380]

​@@martinrolfs7354It is.

[@breakupgoogle]

they need 6 months off first

[@PatrioT76380]

@@breakupgoogle 😂

[@Bcd31997]

If possible lets vote this worthless station to be permanently stationed at super earth so it'll never be used until its fixed lol

[@straightinyourface5120]

Exactly loll 😂😂 brilliant idea

[@spinone-d2]

Or send it into Meridia!

[@mcdull68]

Send it to the illuminates as a gift, when they get it “this is total garbage, maybe Super Earth isn’t as strong as we had thought” then they invaded Super Earth and captured it in 2 weeks.

[@Gloop-de-Gale]

If we can’t then we should send it to hellmire

[@joshuadavis2175]

Firing bombs randomly where our divers are? How is that strategy? 😂

[@Raso719]

It certainly keeps the war going forever. So that's on brand with the game's setting, I guess.

[@Odog78]

It's what happens when you hire the wrong people. This isn't going to be resolved until they address that unfortunate fact.

[@wenk7182]

@@Raso719 No it ain't. This is not WH 40k.

[@azruli]

@@Raso719 yeah totally on brand for the game setting in which we just had 100 years of peace

[@Raso719]

@@azruli peace? Hahaha ha! Wait you're serious? You think living under fascism is peace? Let me laugh again in ALL CAPS HAHAHAHAAAA!

[@johnnycamacho9975]

Drop it on a planet in the middle of nowhere to keep it out of the way. Playing with this DSS, killed me and my team more than the enemies did on super hell dive.

[@thescoot]

I agree. Or better yet, let the bots destroy it

[@JC-eo2qe]

Just do the req slip fund one, that one doesn't kill us and is actually useful at screwing with enemy supply lines. Which makes it easier to liberate the planet.

[@M8Stealth]

Send it to Meridia

[@lawrencemalone1900]

Skill issue

[@darkone9172]

​@lawrencemalone1900 You obviously haven't played it since theirs literally nothing you can do when it starts raining down barrage. I never die more than 3 times fighting with randoms in super helldive and my first mission I died 6 times and we actually went on cool down for lives. This DSS is currently complete garbage as it kills the team more than any bot mission does

[@janstastny5937]

Most worrying is that all of this could have been avoided by devs just playtesting it for 1 hour or spending 5 more mins thinking if having constant 380mm randomly bombard everywhere is really fun. And apperantly non of those happened during the entire development process of this thing. I mean people spent weeks working on it and really nobody voiced their opinion about it being bad idea?

[@TheLotusEaterUnveiled]

The other problem is that they could likely think this *is* good content. The novelty of the lolsorandomXD type instakills is funny once. It’s quite a spectacle I will admit, and at first it was a blast. However dying, losing structures, or getting ragdolled into a death combo is a chuckle fest twice. The 16th time I’m just fucking peeved and going to play something that doesn’t say “take your hands off the keyboard and stop trying to play”

[@thunderfart31]

the thing that baffles me is that they had ALL this time to develop the DSS, I was even wondering if they were delaying it by using the MO's, and what we got is something that could've been programmed in like an hour, a day tops

[@Zealolicious]

Arrowhead doesn’t know how to add content

[@alvaroquinterosaguilera2822]

@@Zealolicious or test it

[@a1ais315]

They know how to do it, they did it with meridia but somehow it's been downhill since meridia

[@Spillow-C]

hope they are working on urban maps tho

[@gamerbeast3616]

They do

[@SteveDave.]

It would be really cool if the dss just gave us free extra orbitals and eagles.

[@RobFike]

or a tagging system...? to aim the bombardment even?!

[@SteveDave.]

@RobFike sure. After playing 1 mission, I was over it.

[@Hando10]

Yea no kidding bro…. Some type of trade system to purchase “unique” strats like a hellbomb that detonates on impact or double eagle strafing runs idk you name it !

[@theprancingphony9398]

Unlimited ;O

[@brendanlund6959]

It could give a hefty cool down reduction on those strategems. The strats are the most fun and unique part of the game so being able to use them a lot more would be both entertaining and useful.

[@strigon4183]

The DSS is horrifically bad. We basically donated to the bots army with our samples and slips. I'm not playing on the planet with the DSS until they fix this, and honestly not wanting to play the game at all. The Devs need to screw their heads on straight

[@gamerbeast3616]

Its good keep haiting

[@trevboy98]

AH really sucks at rolling out new features and mechanics

[@spinone-d2]

There are Roblox devs more coordinated than Arrowhead

[@Vespyr_]

They had ALL this time to get this working and they released it this way? Arrowhead just REALLY sucks at new content. They are so incredibly lazy. What are these 100 devs even doing? Last few months have been nothing but value adjustments to fix their poor weapon design. No new missions. No new biomes. A handful of enemies (only one, or two really) and now this BS. The story hasn't really changed since Meridia. What a massive waste of time these few months have been. There has been zero point in participating with any of it.

[@Odog78]

1) If you are sample capped, the earned samples should automatically be donated. 2). All dss upgrades should be unlockable at once 3). Remove what it currently does and either provide a free strat or augment your strata of certain type

[@Mumpy]

Main problem I have with 1) is it means I can't choose NOT to contribute towards having the map bombarded wherever the DSS is.

[@Mr.Antarctica000]

Don’t agree with 1

[@Turnip397]

@@Mr.Antarctica000yeah no that’s a stupid idea lmao

[@seanrogers3389]

You have months to playtest a super simple mechanic like this and somehow still decide this is a great idea? You would only need to playtest this once to realize that it becomes frustrating getting killed over and over by the barrages to a point where it makes missions harder not easier. It literally must be just 3 or 4 people max developing the DSS otherwise you need to fire your entire QA team. Surely the thought that "Hmmm I wonder if players will find this annoying" crosses your mind even once???

[@aaronmatte6299]

I am CONVINCED they don't have ANYONE on the team that plays the game. This is a gross and offensive addition to the game. We want CONTENT.

[@LordVader69420]

Have you ever watched one of the dev's live streams?

[@aaronmatte6299]

@LordVader69420 admittedly no, but with 500 hours in the game, knowing they DO play and did this is actually worse I think.

[@ReddwarfIV]

Reminds me of KSP2. There is footage of the devs playing the game, claiming they enjoy it so much they can't stop playing it. Then it released and everyone wondered how the hell that could possibly have been the case.

[@Exshooter101]

@@aaronmatte6299 It's just marketing. Always has been. I wouldn't be surprised if they don't touch the game outside of those live streams, and IIRC they're not very good at it either, failing a diff 5 mission which shouldn't be happening unless you're pretty new.

[@breakupgoogle]

@@LordVader69420 yes they are bad at the game and console peasants. they are incompetent

[@Corium1]

I'm boycotting the entire thing. Not touching it, not donating to it, and not voting. The game is still good but this thing is just a 2 months waste of time.

[@Magnusfication]

Im voting it to Meridia

[@coredefect6134]

​@@Magnusfication AYE, BIN IT!!!

[@gamerbeast3616]

Not an option ​@@Magnusfication

[@gamerbeast3616]

Grow up

[@Magnusfication]

@@gamerbeast3616 we all inevetably do

[@absoluteandrew398]

The players got no control. Think about this. The DSS is as it stands, a glorified mission modifier. Random barrages. It’s a mission modifier. What it SHOULD HAVE BEEN, was a huge code punched in by any helldiver, similar to the Hellbomb, and AFTER the player throws the stratagem, any teammates must confirm authorization for the DSS to fire via punching in a simple up arrow on their pad. Then the DSS barrage should be equal to 4 380mm barrages at once, in a concentrated area. Devastating. You ever seen 4 people call in a 380 on the same spot? It should look like that. And then give it a 10, even 15 minute cooldown.

[@KnightsofTitan]

Or maybe a railgun version of the gattling barage but it moves like the laser beam

[@absoluteandrew398]

@ yeah all these ideas are good, I’m mostly stating how we should actually be able to use it rather than it just being a mission modifier

[@AEGISDEFENSE]

The station should have been a guild hall. Call it platoons, donate resources for unique guild cosmetics and trophies, unique strategems, and special harder challenges meant for YOUR platoon.

[@UltraSlayer1]

In my opinion the DSS bombardments should be a good bit less frequent and target outposts and other enemy objectives with the barrage.

[@sillywilly6919]

They could just give each player a 380 barrage with a reduced cooldown as an extra strategem. Same with the eagle strikes when on a defense planet.

[@ethanpeeples6187]

​@@sillywilly6919 that's boring. It should be unique not just the same things.

[@ReddwarfIV]

@@ethanpeeples6187 Imagine a 380 but it's railcannon strikes. Perfectly precise. Even if it were single use, that would be a _godsend_ for dealing with Heavy Outposts or Eradication missions.

[@That_lore_guy]

​@@ReddwarfIV still lame it should stay a status effect just modified i don't want to have to stop and call it in it myself

[@ReddwarfIV]

@That_lore_guy ...you're playing a video game. The whole point is for you to do things. I can't think of a planet modifier in HD2 that _isn't_ lame.

[@YouTubechannel-du1fk]

@12:40 Another option would be, when we’re on the mapveiw, before dropping in. They should give us an option to also select where the bombardment goes.

[@coinisinorbit]

I like this idea

[@guyfromny2364]

That is probably the best way to fix it! Legit just mark an area of the map for bombardment but idk how’d they go about it.

[@philipdrainville3592]

Yooo this! Squad leader can select 2-3 locations to have free 380 right at the start. It would make sense lore wise and pretty effective

[@cursedboyir]

We sacrifriced 3 WHOLE PLANETS for the completion of this hunk of metal.😢

[@spinone-d2]

A traitorous hunk of metal at that

[@mcdull68]

Chaosdivers gonna be out there again

[@coredefect6134]

​@@mcdull68 again?...We never left.

[@HellfireActual]

Don't forget the hospital for children got sacrificed too! They cut its funding to pay for the DSS.

[@killercobra009]

It’s LITERALLY the traitor barrage but with added spread. It will only strike near players and it rotates which player it “follows” on a timer.

[@loganstroop1602]

The DSS should've added in POSITIVE modifiers but only on the voted planet. Like oribtal strategems recharge 100% faster, barrages are more accurate/last 50% longer...... like, come on, it's RIGHT there. The community has been asking for positive modifiers since launch and Arrowhead can savor the chaos that it would be still

[@zombysaur842]

I always thought the DSS was gonna allow us to use never-seen-before "Ultra Powerful Strategems" on our missions. The fact that the bombardments isn't a unique feature and gives us ZERO control over it is the most disappointing part of it for me

[@zombysaur842]

I didn't finish watching the video when I made the comment. They basically already said everything I said

[@Invictus40k]

I'M SO SICK OF GAMES COMING OUT, WITH BARELY ANY CONTENT, AND THEN PEOPLE DICK RIDING SAYING "BUT WAIT, IT'LL BE AWESOME IN 2-5 YEARS". I didn't buy Space Marine 2 to make a fully customized Marine in 5 fucking years. I didn't buy Helldivers 2 to get the full game experience in 3 years.

[@number1cheater272]

Then don't play them!!! Crazy right!

[@miemsliva4464]

​@@number1cheater272Hey buddy, guess what, not how being the consumer at the end of a product line works. You are supposed to get a FINISHED. PRODUCT. Stop defending trash like a damn raccoon.

[@jezoboii]

It's beyond crazy to me that people can look at those two games and be like "yeah that's not enough"

[@gamerbeast3616]

​@miemsliva4464 game is not trash

[@VanGothASMR]

This just isn't the one. Helldivers 2 came out the gate as a finished game and was amazing. Your complaint has NOTHING to dow tih what is effectively an expansion that doesn't work.

[@littlebear1990]

I died more to friendly artillery than the bots haha

[@nautilus7098]

you are not alone

[@littlebear1990]

If they focused it on a single area and gave us a warning of where it would hot via our mini map it would be very tolerable

[@nautilus7098]

@@littlebear1990 or maybe give us the option to select an area on the map. Like a big circle which you place down. And that’s where heavy rain is going to be expected.

[@littlebear1990]

@nautilus7098 that would be sweet, it's a work in progress for sure. All I know is people hate bot missions as is. This will definitely turn them away even more

[@TimbavatiLion]

The DSS should upgrade our existing stratagems. We already have effects that give us an extra stratagem sometimes. Give me unlimited lasers, upgrade the 380mm barrage to a mini-nuke barrage, make every eagle strike hit twice, make the napalm barrage spawn lingering firetornadoes... so many options! Yet here they went for "random deaths for everyone"...

[@kuirkiz]

I got killed 3 times coming out of a hellpod. One of the most egregious things that happened to me was getting ragdolled from a rocket then while in midair I got hit with a planetary bombardment. I was flabbergasted. Ain't no way that kinda disrespect was random.

[@Victor-py9gt]

Or when you're in a quiet, remote part of the map and ONE SINGULAR shell hits you straight on the forehead.

[@Aggro224]

Cry

[@Victor-py9gt]

@@Aggro224 Take your irrelevance elsewhere.

[@The23Anonymous]

6 out of my last 7 deaths were by random stray DSS artillery barrages. I ragequit (which i usually just don't) after i jetpack-climbed a rock for like 3 mins to attack a big outpost, got ragdolled by a random barrage, fell down and died. It's borderline unplayable. I also will not dive on a planet, where the DSS is for now. Lets vote to get this pile of garbage to Meridia. There it is the least detremental for us.

[@kaijuslayer3334]

The fact you can notice the issues in one match really puts into prospective that somehow over this 2 month waiting period, they did not test or play with this themselves even ONCE.

[@riderstorm66]

Planetary Bombardment should only hit the enemies or bases not Helldivers or put a guided target where the bomb it's going to land. I died several times.

[@B-U-T-C-H-E-R]

The eagle strikes might actually be pretty cool. Otherwise we need a laser designator to paint targets

[@JHelldiver1121]

We worked for weeks on end just to have a space station that is worse than our super destroyers. It can’t have all 3 features on at once but our destroyers can literally activate 3 orbital strikes at once and also send an eagle all at the same time. Also I don’t think the abilities need a buff they need a complete rework especially the eagle booster because they picked the absolute precise eagle and make it not precise on the enemies.

[@Odstboi]

Our super destroyer can have 3 orbitals, support multiple pelicans(supposedly three for different purposes, extraction, loading, and exo suits.). Our single destroyer can use multiple eagle stratagems, so reload time is very quickly AND can support boosters while doing all this.

[@skylerspurlock4755]

This would be the stupidest thing ever to spend any currency on whatsoever! I will never vote or donate. Surely we’ll have more ship upgrades in the future. Why would they want us to spend our currency on something we don’t get to keep?!?! I’m so upset over this! 😢

[@macandcheeseofficial]

Because a ton of the community has been maxed out on all currencies for months and they’re not hard to come by.

[@frozetti]

i suggest to keep voting on location and send it to the farthest corners of map 😁

[@ClumsyDrow]

Just send it to Hellmire and let the bots destroy it

[@skylerspurlock4755]

@@macandcheeseofficial still, like they said if we get something new but we’re drained from this, we’re assed out

[@jolietjake5583]

I'm on Gaelilivare right now with the Eagle upgrade. It doesn't seem to do very much, good or bad. At least it looks really cool with fleets of Eagles flying around. I hope they add a new mission or side objective to rescue downed pilots

[@joshy3302]

So we clearly waste our time and efforts for nothing?

[@derjoghurtmitderecke]

Welcome to gaming in 2024. 👋🏻

[@MilkoAR]

They keep wasting our time. And theirs too.

[@number1cheater272]

Everything is a waste of time, just because you see it now doesn't mean it wasn't always there

[@nepfix2498]

​@@number1cheater272 And you are a waste of atoms that could be used for more meaningfull things than meatriding the devs 🍆

[@JoMcD21]

I can get over losing my money, but time? I'll never get that back. They straight up wasted hours of something we'll never get back.

[@tylerbrown1067]

I tried playing solo to see the fruits of all our hard work over that last 2 months and I lost all of my reinforcements to the barrage. I have uninstalled the game because I need to stop wasting my time on a game that can't stay fun and I think we all need to reconsider buying live service games ever. After 200 hours enough is enough.

[@omegacrash4933]

If the devs are trolling, why dont we as a community do the same except do something bigger and more direct than review bombing? Eye for an eye.

[@coredefect6134]

No need to go Radical over a bad dev team, bro, they just ain't worth it.

[@breakupgoogle]

mines been negative for a long time now.

[@Daft_Vader]

For me, as long as I've got heavy fortified armour + shield pack then there's very little chance of me getting killed. It's extremely cinematic but still pointless gameplay-wise

[@Bohdisattva326]

I didn’t grind for anything. I play for stress relief , fun and for managed democracy

[@Sammy-xi3cf]

Now you gonna get bomb lol

[@theInfiniteEgg-z8i]

Yeah lol the people that grinded for this are stupid as hell 😂

[@Bohdisattva326]

@@Sammy-xi3cf I 'll just play the other open planets and avoid the DSS... the crew I play with just like killing stuff. Not into lore at all... For super earth divers....

[@Sammy-xi3cf]

@@Bohdisattva326 lol I was about to say you crazy to play on the planet with dss

[@Bohdisattva326]

@@Sammy-xi3cf yep brother..ill avoid the DSS and spread democracy over the rest of the galaxy!

[@tsarrite]

The only thing that killed me was the DSS bombardment and wiped the team. They should at least let us pin a spot on the map like that ship module that already exist, to have an area of known effect. Not this fu here is a traitor 380 barrage for 40mins.

[@markanderson3572]

Have the DSS barrages count as stratagems, make all of your normal stratagem bombardment call downs double up, and your weapon and supply cooldowns are halved. Make the station being on the planet mean something.

[@unothecard21]

imo this is kind of halo infinite again where they were trying to develop and engine and a game at the same time. The difference is that they're only patching up the engine and the game isn't dog shit

[@juanponcedeleon5192]

All they literally had to do was provide a planetwide 380mm barrage stratagem on a super decreased cooldown and they can’t even do that

[@SaltySparrow]

Why would they deploy helldivers when there is a constant bombardment? I think to fix it you have it go in waves and they give you a shield you can use while it is in a wave.

[@Foxador]

"Free of Thought" seems to be the MO of Arrowhead unfortunately. They don't playtest even thou they've been promising to do so while also telling us that they'll "do better next time! Just trust us!" and they'll spend more time making sure things work. *insert "so that was a Fing lie" meme here* They had months to test this, three at the very least! Two of those were during the build up to the release so at least another month was spent working on it at the minimum... even tho the DSS is actually a copy and paste of the station we have over mars during the tutorial. Yeah, wrap your head around that one. If you go back and see gameplay from someone just starting the game for the first time, when they leave mars you see the (a?) DSS in orbit of that planet. They already had the art and assets for it done already so none of that was needed to be worked on since this is just a ctrl c than V As for directing the orbital strikes. Maybe have it done with the map pinging system? OR! You know when you're selecting your drop point and other players can ping spots on the map? Maybe have it so each player can "ping" a location they want the strikes to happen at and the game will cycle through those randomly while playing and have the map ping a spot where it's happening

[@frozetti]

Also my understanding is that 3rd buff (with requisition slips) should be active no matter what planet DSS is on. So, at any time DSS is active, 2 of 3 buffs should be active, depending on whether it's Defense or Liberation planet.

[@stevhpoo]

AH Needs to release another (60 Day plan) and communicate a game road map to the community - after this major dissapointment.

[@gamerbeast3616]

The DDS is fine

[@breakupgoogle]

@@gamerbeast3616 okay simp

[@TheCHEOCUPEY]

Well this aged like milk, youtubers really cant wait to see the full potential of things and like to clickbait people now days.

[@egghedpr]

Giving us infinite access to the regular barrage stratagem wherever the dss is stationed would've been like 100x better. At least we can choose where the dammn bombs drop. I legit cant walk 2 seconds without getting assblasted to hell

[@onebrickatatime9097]

I played with it once, and it was horrible. My entire team was dying left and right, and we burned through our reinforcement budget extremely fast. I was lucky enough to be spared from most of the DSS's rath, but I'm pretty sure 80 - 90% of our deaths were from the station. One of my less fortunate teammates remarked that the DSS was the automatons greatest weapon lol. By some miracle we still managed to 100% clear, but that was probably due to the free shield emplacements

[@JulianSlick175]

Arrowhead hate us.

[@Mumpy]

Please don't be melodramatic and attribute malice to incompetence.

[@jackball344]

How can AH fix HD2 Step 1: Sell the IP Step 2: Profit

[@The8thblock]

"... once you fire this hunk of metal, it keeps going till it hits something! that could be an automaton factory, or a patrol or even a helldiver squad. if you pull the trigger on this, you are ruining someones day, somewhere and sometime! that is why you check your damn targets, that is why you wait for the computer to give you a damn firing solution. that is why SERVICEMAN CHUNG we do not 'eyeball it', this is a weapon of mass destruction, you are NOT a cowboy shooting from the hip!". my favorite part is the orbital barrage doesn't target anything specifically. instead of choosing targets that they can see from orbit, they just got someone to close their eyes and randomly shoot at the planet. lets just be happy the barrage actually HITS the planet. "you DSS operators have killed a lot of sand, the sand was very evil"

[@Overlooked1]

I would of rather had the extra strategem, if we can't control the explosions then it's useless and seems like we have worked towards penalizing ourselves wtf 😂

[@Chiefnugnam]

I also don't understand why anyone is "surprised". Arrowhead has shit the bed at every opportunity.

[@gamerbeast3616]

Grow up

[@breakupgoogle]

@@gamerbeast3616 okay simp

[@Chiefnugnam]

@gamerbeast3616 I'm already huge no need to grow anymore.

[@The-Blue-Knight]

I haven't checked it out due to work. But having passives is very cool. But the barrage doesn't seem good. Also donating currency sucks. Lastly only 1 active is lame. Lastly I feel some people are being too harsh. Some are saying the game is ruined. They need to calm down.

[@evanschedler8636]

Honestly when I saw the orbital barrage upgrade I knew it would just bombard the whole map with no care what was hit, that’s the point I think, and I love it

[@That_lore_guy]

Exactly like its in the name planetary bombardment not precision strike

[@Exshooter101]

Don't get whats the point of sending in troops then. You want the planet to be bombarded, sure, but you also want to send people into that same bombardment to complete objectives because the liberation doesn't progress otherwise? Makes zero sense to me

[@boynextdoor931]

This really is just a ranting video from try hards. I thought it was pretty fun, played with it for shits and giggles, and once I got tired of it, I just left... Like I also play the game a lot, like unhealthily, and I'm just chilling about it.

[@tmbfreak_16]

I've given up on these devs. I'm sick and tired of 2 steps forward and 5 steps back with still hardly ANY new content. Good luck to those who stick with it, but I'm done

[@Szabjack]

At this point this game is more a roller coaster simulator than anything really.

[@Blackaddersservant]

Ive played about 6 times with the orbital bombardment to really give it a try. It's terrible! There is basically no positive to it. It barely does anything to the bots but it kills you constantly. Who was the idiot that thought this up? It makes the gsme harder but not in a fun way. It's extremely irritating to listen to. It makes it harder to see and of course it kill you more than the enemy. Fail!

[@frozetti]

even bigger problem than Super Shit Station is that enemy spawns are like x4 - x6 times more than ussual (super helldive), all of them Hulks, Doggies, Striders, ARMIES of Chainsawbots. So you have to deal with literally endless waves of heavies wherever you go, and at the same time try to not to die to Traitor barrages.

[@KnightsofTitan]

You forgot to add the barrage magically misses every enemy unit as well. Making the difficulty spike unnesacery

[@ceddysaid3432]

This comment section proves it thicfila is literally the home of the glaze diver

[@convergence1point]

Even Thic and Clay hate it, so yeah. Everyone hates it

[@mysterious___1]

Wtf are you talking about?

[@That_lore_guy]

Glazers where I haven't seen anyone except like one person say anything remotely positive

[@ceddysaid3432]

According to thicfila it just a bit underwhelming

[@fredericoeusebio9770]

Im flabergasted that people who defended the constitution rifle being a completely weapon are now be pissed that this plot device is not usefull!....😂

[@gamerbeast3616]

Because the rifle is a joke weapon lol

[@TheIndulgers]

Is anyone surprised? The devs don’t play test their game. They have proved this over and over again. It actually getting tiresome. Stop playing.

[@Kizaru3314]

I also have found the DSS frustrating and underwhelming (mostly because of the barrage) but I find that players often talk out of both sides of the their mouths when it concerns progression. They want progression, but they don't want to go through the _process_ of progression, the parts that require patience and diligence. They want everything NOW, but when they have everything NOW then, well... they have everything, and then go back to complaining about a lack of progression. DSS donations help solve that problem. We can argue over details, but at the end of the day, you *_choose_* what you want to donate. If you're so afraid of not being able to get the next ship upgrade immediately, then contribute just small amounts that you know you can earn back in a mission or two, or alternatively, save your resources, let others do the work.

[@TooDirty]

I think it's clear now that they don't have a creative leader to guide the dev team for this game. The leadership for this game has been so bad.

[@MrBartolbe42]

I think a real quick and easy change would be letting us buy strategems from the space station. give us a list of stratagems, and if we meet the donation goal, everybody on the planet can use that strategy in the same way that they've been given us the free stratagems on certain planets.

[@KnightsofTitan]

I like that idea. Super strats, but they work of the disposable limit like the first helldivers game

[@thescoot]

This will be a meme in gaming for years to come. Worst thing I have seen in gaming since Big Rigs.

[@AlexVanChezlaw]

The gameplay makes it seem like the bombarment does nothing to the enemies but ragdolls and kills players with no effort...

[@josh6499]

I left a negative review and uninstalled.

[@Delta-007]

I thought it was gonna be some sort of player hub like the anomaly in no man's sky

[@breakupgoogle]

When are y'all gonna learn the devs are incompetent

[@gamerbeast3616]

They are not incompetent lmao

[@breakupgoogle]

@@gamerbeast3616 oh they clearly failed up and from the jump not knowing about how psn works alone shows that. you clearly have no idea. maybe they can hire you to keep the year old game from crashing constantly as if it is in beta prerelease.

[@lejenddairy]

The DSS gunners are traitorous. I imagine the space station is straight up having an among us episode right now and there are “bot” imposters among the DSS crew sabotaging our new space station and aiming the cannons at our fellow Helldivers.

[@youtubeenjoyer579]

I rewatched the balance change videos with those two guys sitting on the couch and it's perfectly clear to me why these updates continue to be so underwhelming.

[@LordVader69420]

Those were hostage videos...

[@joshuatran1556]

The explosions seem to happen in a 50 meter radius surrounding each player. If you group up tight and move slowly, you will never get hit and can even somewhat control it. However if you split up, as often happens, the bombardment circles on each player can overlap and kill you. The range also doesn't move that fast, so if you are going fast either by jump pack or ragdolling, you can get hit.

[@agentqshmickelfritz8714]

I'm calling it now. They're gonna add the Illuminate after Hytale releases

[@DustedTaint]

What’s hytale?

[@AParticularlyPointySoldier]

@@DustedTainta Minecraft clone type game from the devs of the Hypixel server in Minecraft. It’s a running joke that it’ll never release since it’s been delayed a multitude of times by a lot of years each time.

[@jomega_gaming]

I thought it was funny. Something different for a week or two. I'd like more of these random things tbh. Helldivers community is full of moaners.

[@spicy518]

So true

[@finnebr1]

Instead of orbital bombardment let's do orbital lasers, I can dodge those

[@spinone-d2]

Or rail cannons

[@KnightsofTitan]

​@@spinone-d2better yet railgun gattling barrage, but it moves like a laser following the target designator

[@nicksiegfried4906]

I honestly expected this to not change the game at all and it was still worse than my expectations 😂

[@CallmeSen2ei3t254]

Truth of the matter is, they just don’t know what the players want. This is truly upsetting, and it makes me want to head back over to my others games that I’ve been putting off so I could help with the DSS. But the way it’s looking now, I might need another break from this disaster.

[@Meseraph]

Dss is dissapointing even if they fix the barrage. 2 month for reskinned meteor shower.

[@ironbloodangel4112]

This should make it easier to get the gone in sixty seconds trophy

[@SycotikSnowman]

They need to make it a orbital support/forward base. 4 divers per game, 4 types of support. Have a diver take a bonus. Extra orbital slots or massive cooldowns Extra eagle strikes or mass support damage Scrub the hell pod bonus, make it sentry support extras Last can be support weapons or exo suits slots Let each diver take a roll of supports Or make it a ultimate rail cannon support. Call it in and get like 6 cannons and 6 380mm single strikes to really be direct on huge bases

[@derjoghurtmitderecke]

Just shows you how clueless the devs still are after their nerf-marathon. Then they had so much pressure from leaving active players that they buffed things left and right. Now this. Dunno what changed internally but it almost seems as if this isn't the original dev team anymore. Super weird. It's as if the devs are schizophrenic and have multiple personalities. They had one of the most polished and balanced releases I can think of in recent years. 😟

[@LordVader69420]

Sony came in and forced their hand with the buffs to get players back. The DSS is AH's retribution.

[@camper5579]

I just think they are too divided on their tasks internaly and thats why the monthly passes and updates of the game are kinda lacking

[@moy9948]

Planetary Bombardment iis just the 120mm and 380mm stratagem in global mode tbh. Had a random that almost took those in a DSS mission and had to plead to him to not do it.

[@jxchillinn]

idk sounds like a skill issue

[@GamerGuy1619]

The DSS should focus on attacking enemy’s AND LET US HAVE SEAF NPC SUPPORT