17. The Persian Period (Jewish History Lab)

[@kasiakondracki5171]

Went back and started the series from the beginning to see if I might learn some more. Sure did! Thank you for presenting this in a way that those of us completely unfamiliar with theJewish peoples history can learn and follow along!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

That is so great! I'm very glad that you are finding the videos helpful. Thank you for being a public subscriber!

[@terrayjos]

I've really enjoyed this series. So nice to find something to take my mind off of today's news. Give me more!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

More to come!

[@eliandmichal]

Hi Dr. Abramson. First of all I want to thank you so much for publishing these lectures. Your lucid flowing style is just a pleasure to listen to and learn from, and your erudition in both Jewish and secular sources is very impressive. I was wondering if in the course of these lectures you might address the well known discrepancies between the generally accepted historical timeline and the one presented in the Talmud. I noticed that you dated the destruction of the first temple at the year 586 BCE which follows the general timeline. I would be interested to understand what your perspective is on which system is correct and what the rabbis of the Talmud intended when they recorded what they did. Thanks again!

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Thanks for the kind words. I hope to address the more detailed question of chronology in the print version. A little too complex for these brief videos.

[@TailsSpain]

I love these lectures, because it is both respectful to tradition and tries to be accurate as an historical account. Not an easy task. Kol hakavod!

[@esty6374]

When this crazy lockdown stuff is over and you have live lectures again, I would love to attend some of them.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Looking forward!

[@dobishs]

Looking forward to learning more about coinage. Thank You

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

More coming

[@shayczarkie6085]

i think it's interesting to note that the coin for one NIS has the same lily/lulav on it as the coin from the Persian era. also i just wanted to say that i really enjoy your lectures!

[@WoundedEgo]

It appears someone mistook the Cyrus Cynlinder for an ear of corn and took a bite out of it.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I hate when that happens!

[@WoundedEgo]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Sorry for making such a corny joke! :)

[@robertomorales2308]

Keep on the good work.

[@historicalminds6812]

Would you consider making a video about Idumea?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I plan touching upon it in forthcoming lectures.

[@thelyfsoshort]

0:56 AKA "King of the Universe"

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Yup

[@yourthought2333]

That face in the coin was quite startling.😮

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I agree

[@Yonatan_Avrishmi]

אפשר לשים כתוביות בשיעורים?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

חבל, אין לי אפשרות עכשיו.

[@Yonatan_Avrishmi]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD השיעורים מאוד יפים, לפעמים קשה עם האנגלית אם היה כתוביות מאוד היה עוזר. תודה רבה בכל מקרה

[@danielpalmer643]

'Sin' in English is from an Old English root, possibly related to Latin 'sont' for guilty. 'Sin' the moon god of Babylon was possibly pronounced 'Suen' and isn't related. The word most often translated as 'sin' in the Bible is 'hata' which means 'to stray (from the path)'.

[@RavenToe]

These are great ,short and sweet ! That deity that Nabonidas was worshiping was the moon . Along with Shamash, the Sun and Ishtar, Venus , he ( Sin ) formed their Akkadian trinity . Strangely enough , the moon ( Sin ) was the head of the three and he gave birth to both Sun (Shamash) and Venus (Ishtar). To the Sumerians , Sin was known as Nanna. A little non sequitur but thought you might find it interesting. peace

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Fascinating! Thanks for this information.

[@nathanpriddis3878]

Thank you. Informative as always. You showed us previously, post 70 C.E. Roman coinage showing palm tree and a female Judea. Is there a Babylonian/Persian/Greek timeline to this imagery developing as an identity?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I am not aware of anything before the first century CE.

[@s.v.mathew2954]

May God Bless you.i belive that those who bless Abraham,the Jews the blessed people of Almighty God will become a blessing to me iam a missionary paster,and also a Bible teacher espiciaĺly O T.

[@johnwalz2832]

History and prophecy are so well intertwined in this period. Even Isaiah naming God's servant "Cyrus" by name to lay again the foundations of the temple before it was even destroyed is astounding. It would be difficult to move back to a destroyed land as you mentioned. But the historical record attests to God's sovereign hand even while in exile and the Jew's zeal for God to return and start again.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

More on this in the text version of the lecture: history and prophecy are difficult to separate from each other in this period.

[@heqaib]

I am surprised that you did not mention the Jewish Temple at Elephantine Island. The Jewish soldiers were ‘stationed’ there with their families under the auspices of the Egyptian Kings after the Babylonian conquest. The earliest documentation was recorded in a letter between the Jewish High Priest and Cambyses II (successor and perhaps the son of Cyrus) on his arrival at Elephantine Island in 525 BCE. The Jewish presence was documented until the early 3rd century BCE. The Elephantine Papyri and Ostraca, in Aramaic, are well known and translated, primarily by Prof. Bezalel Porten of Hebrew Univ. There is also Egyptian documentation most famously inscribed on the 27th Dynasty statue of Udjahorresnet confirming the role of Cambyses in Egypt.

[@richardglady3009]

Thank you. Great video. Are there any good books, in addition to the Bible, that discuss the life of the Babylonian exiles, especially those that remain in Babylon as time marched on and the rulers of the area changed...Babylon, Persia, Alexander...? Thank you for your help.

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

I would start with Salo Baron.

[@richardglady3009]

Thank you.

[@christofferraby4712]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD I am enjoying your videos very much. I was told that the ancient Iraqi and Iranian Jewish communities were descendants of the Jews brought to ancient Babylon after the destruction of the 2nd temple in Jerusalem. Interesting that after 2,500 years of history in Iraq and Iran most of the Iraqi Jews moved to modern day Israel mostly between 1949 and 1951. And most Persian Jews moved to modern day Israel from Iran after 1978.

[@rossharmonics]

If you have any thoughts on the following question(s), I'd love to hear you speak on this issue. Persian thought had a great influence of Greek thinkers such as Pythagoras, Anaxagoras, Socrates, Plato, and Aeschylus. Writers on this topic usually talk of Zoroaster as being the source of this new wisdom. The same writers also talk of the influence of Zoroaster on Jewish thought but do not consider the possibility that the influence went the other way. Zoroaster's monotheism is used to explain the idiosyncratic monotheism of the Greek thinkers just mentioned. Are there any sources of the Hebrew influence on Zoroaster or on this revolution in Greek thinking?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Sorry, this is a little outside my area of specialization. You might try Dr. Shai Secunda.

[@rossharmonics]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Thank you for the lead.

[@miriamlange1016]

does anybody know about which family records he is talking about in minute 11.45?

[@patrickdeckdoctorokeano9146]

Wakers and the Knockers? where would that fit in this period?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Mishnah?

[@patrickdeckdoctorokeano9146]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD yes

[@patrickdeckdoctorokeano9146]

@@HenryAbramsonPhD Henry, i am having a significant problem which i can not rectify with the current narrative. For 3ooo years allegedly "jews" conducted their affairs under the premise that the Torah was was the word of god. When Theodore Herzl and Zionist Congress announced their scheme it did not sit well with the existing jewry in europe. The congress membership numbers show that the majority of european jews considered this heresy and rejected the zionist claim. Jews at the time would have said " Why have we have our ancestors died awaiting the restoration if WE could have done this ourselves? Zionism was a slap in face to all Jews. I believe the Zionists are holding the jews hostage. There is significant problem here between the narrative that facts

[@everydayrubbish8962]

Bad alexander, bad boy

[@nathanielzarny1176]

Wait so if only 15,000 people were exiled, how did 50,000 return, and how was that not even all of them?

[@Yonatan_Avrishmi]

you can put subtitle on your coursers?

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Sorry, too time-consuming. Maybe over the summer I will have more time for them.

[@1BestCookie]

Does google not offer it as a service? Maybe google would have a hard time with all these Hebrew and ancient words

[@michaelferto6588]

............A great study would be on, the Torah's view on the earth's geography, that was chronology populated by humanity throughout the book of Genius....Do you have a video or videos on this study?...............After Ester became Jewish Queen of the Persian Empire, her sons became possibly Jewish Kings of this Persian empire..... In a way, I could see how beneficial, it is to have religious decent from a mother, in this case..... Since this seems to be, the first world empire........................................Tonight I think of the beginnings starting beyond the Euphrates and ending beyond the Euphrates, as far the Jewish Bible is concerned, and the possible conclusions, that can be drawn from this..........................................Also I think of some of the negativity toward the Hasmoneans, and their ways of the temple culture, and their political connections; in that geopolitical economic historical period..... Seems like the issue of them not being of the tribe of Judah, is an issue about the illegitimacy of their rule...Yet all Jews are in a way consider themselves Jews, and are considered Jews (from the tribe of Judah)... As Jacob foretold in the blessings of his sons....Furthermore, all the tribes were eventually allowed to mix, as is shown in the Torah....... Therefore, the goal of each Jew attaining the level of king and priest, in the nation, seems to be a goal achieved..... So in a way, the Hasmoneans were kind the tribe of Judah, as they were the tribe of Levite, as all Jews are in a way........Lastly, there were some bad things that occurred in their and Herod's reign, yet some bad things happened in the reign of Judaean kings...........................................So there is much still to figure out......I am just offering my insight, yet I am not advocating any path in these issues, because I still have lots to learn, before I can challenge how authorities are leaning, to form observances.....

[@rogerevans9666]

@2:24 way, way off the subject, but Rembrandt borrowed the woman on the far right from Veronese's "Rape of Europa". She is right behind the head of the bull.

[@carlrichards5207]

Your sound is too low.

[@nichhodge8503]

I’ve just subscribed to your channel as I’m finding it very interesting. I’m not Jewish myself in fact I don’t believe in any god, Yahweh or any other. I was Christened in a Protestant Church though my parents aren’t religious (well my mum isn’t sure where she stands on God due to a lack of knowledge she says. My dad is very much like me doesn’t believe in God and is highly educated though he never got his doctorate from Cambridge University like I did and I did quantum physics where as my dad did mathematical studies) but were still married in Church. I’ve always loved history and religious history and wish I could have studied it more academically

[@user-bj9or7ke3u]

the tolerance to worship any religion was in fact a open up private banking to all

[@mojtabarafizadah7702]

Cyrus the great should be the father of our nation and under his name we can unite with the world but until that day is a long way.

[@uat591]

May Persia be free again amen

[@HenryAbramsonPhD]

Hope you found the video useful.

[@radina86]

omg! it looks like today's 1 SHEKEL coin!!

[@etcwhatever]

Sin is the "god" of the moon. Shamash is the "god" of the sun.

[@binay9499]

😂 above and beyond the Islamic faith 🙏 ❤

[@binay9499]

Abrahim and sara are persian facts

[@infinixhotelevens9585]

Hi and Good Day to you Sir! There's a group in the Philippines called the Iglesia Ni Cristo (Church Of Christ) who are teaching that the term "MIZRACH" in Isaiah 46:11 does not refer or cannot refer to Persia and King Cyrus. They say, that the fulfilment of this particular Prophecy of the Prophet Isaiah is THE PHILIPPINES, and their Prophet Felix Y. Manalo. What is your opinion about this kind of doctrine? (Pardon me for my English.) Thank you 🙏🏻.