Her Tinder Stalker Ex Stabbed her 75 times... | The Horrific Murder of Molly McLaren

[@JohnH204]

Based on these documentaries, people who "light up the room" or "make everyone's day" are extremely high risk to be victims of murder.

[@barbarapalmer8224]

Yes,you are dead right

[@paullaney3339]

Yeah everyone who gets murdered is so perfect 😐

[@paullaney3339]

@Ooweee Ooweee Exactly!

[@ChrisAndCats]

@Ooweee Ooweee unless they stand out from the crowd and that's why it's always them?

[@aaroncross2366]

The old adage "Only the good die young" comes to mind. You're right. People who stop to help someone broken down alongside the road are killed all the time. People who are generous and help people are targets as well. People who "Love life" as well.

[@Langolin1998]

After dealing with multiple toxic people in my life; both family and personal relationships, I’ve learned a lot…one at the top of the list, is to keep the details of your life, completely private!! Never disclose any of your plans or whereabouts to anyone you do not trying! And by all means, NEVER post your life details online for the world to see. You are just inviting trouble into your life. Some people do this today, to make the other person jealous; without thinking of the terrible consequences it can have. Stalkers are extremely unhinged and this is often the tragic result. What a monster!

[@GoldyRyun]

I totally agree keep you private life away from those predators and murders , I know from experience , 3 different ones , first one I thought he was someone I had known for several years when we were young, he had the same name wrong guy tho, wasn’t long he was lying and asking for thousands of dollars, claimed he was a widower with a 15 year old daughter and a 6 year old and his wife had died I’d child birth with the 6 year old ,turned out the one who was supposed to be his 15 year old was his wife and the 6 year old was his daughter, I blocked that guy , and the next said he was a widower with a 3 year old , soon he was asking for thousands of dollars to , blocked him, then the 3rd guy said he was single and didn’t have any kids but he was also asking for lots of money and an iPhone , I blocked him , then later I got a new phone and number he was on there , so I accepted his friends request , but he also didn’t know who I was so on this he was asking for money and a phone for his son and this was after I had blocked him from my other phone and he didn’t know it was me , so I blocked him, ,lol and no more friends request unless I’m sure I know who I’m accepting, just be careful it might save your life and not everyone is who they appear to be, crooks , liars and murders, , it’s not worth risking your life for,

[@evalynlopez4698]

WELL SAID! ❤❤❤

[@AK-op4be]

Stabbing her 75 times is absolutely insane. The amount of force and anger needed to stab her that many times is crazy. He can rot.

[@Zulls23]

@@adamlv1 you’ve laid that visual out too well

[@1975reispedro1]

​@@adamlv1 if he isn't human.. He is a animal and to some people animal can kill and they will will defend this behavior... in a way they call themselves psychiatrists

[@SayWhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat]

personal killings always have this patern.

[@nicholasshade1366]

Sad 😞 ********************************************

[@nicholasshade1366]

I love that her friend is named Amelia.💛

[@teresawhitten8346]

She’s being stalked, threatened and scared of his behavior, shows up at the restaurant yet her friends didn’t walk her home?!… unbelievable

[@summerfatima2525]

Fr!!!! My thoughts exactly…

[@chriskelly9476]

@Star Dust its no one's fault but the murderer, but still, if you know a friend is being stalked and the stalker shows up when you're all at a restaurant, you accompany her home for goodness' sake.

[@ashleyj7011]

Facts

[@carrietaylor6658]

This just didn't add up

[@angiec4116]

I Was Thinkin Tha Same Thing But She Wasn't Very Smart Posting Where She Was Goin Either

[@TH-zy1nb]

This "other girl" who reported back to Joshua, about Molly's whereabouts, should be charged too.

[@princesspinecone3884]

Conspiracy!

[@denisrailey777]

Accomplice.

[@Rakel6784]

If it wasn't that day he would've killed her any other day..No matter what he still would've gotten her at a different place

[@saspredydious9295]

@@kittencatlover156 complicity!

[@whoanelly7444]

Narc and they’re flying monkeys!

[@ummm.what.]

I've always told people that social media should always be talking about the past not the future. "I went here last night" Rather than "I'm going here tonight" I'm by no means victim blaming, but you have to be careful what you put out there. You never know who's watching.

[@noellecandy]

This is a really good tip! Thanks for sharing ❤

[@rachelgooden9981]

I like that! Deep!

[@TrueColorReviews]

I mean…. So true! 🥺

[@authenticallytyra7759]

This is very good advice! 👍

[@Charlie-bh3yk]

The last time I dated I made my date fully aware that I was tagging every place we visited and that my friends knew who he was (turned out we also had mutual friends.) Some people would say that’s too much or “how off-putting for him” but, I’d rather live for many more years than risk it. Turns out I was right to be cautious, as he was only after one thing and in my case, being open on Facebook was for my personal safety.

[@lfc1265]

Regardless of social media posts, he was a lunatic and he would have stalked her and killed her regardless. He was insane enough to stab her 75 times in public broad daylight?? Whether her friends had been with her not, if he’s THAT crazy he’d have absolutely attacked them too. He tricked her into falling for him, showing where she lived, he would have found her no matter what. It is absolutely TRAGIC and the only person at fault is HIM. Not her friends, not social media posts, not Molly. Just please be careful with these dating apps.

[@katibrownshire8153]

My thoughts as well. The ending seemed a little victim blamey. They specifically say she didn't post on social media that she was going to the gym, he followed her from her place. I'm not saying we shouldn't be careful about what we post on social media, but the blame should be placed directly on the perpetrator.

[@lfc1265]

@@katibrownshire8153 exactly!!

[@maytalbs9614]

Sorry not agree. I think she and her friend and family could do much more to guarding her. I would of sending her to another state if I needed.

[@ozzyoz5210]

@@maytalbs9614 She was unaware of being stalked! We have been lulled asleep for feeling the dangers around us as women. I believe it's imperative to be taught signs of abuse and not downplay it for what it is!!

[@reggaefan2700]

Why is she asking for help? 16:51 Her friends told her not to go back with him.

[@natasha83196]

I’m disgusted at how the police thought calling him and asking him to remove social media posts constituted an investigation. Had they even done the bare minimum they would have found he had been reported before for disturbing and threatening behavior towards a woman. Blood is on their hands.

[@leannewinter3790]

They can't do anything unless he commits a crime !

[@kristy4245]

The police, most times, won’t help until it’s too late. This is why we have to make sure we have a way to protect ourselves. I had a customer at my old job whom I had exchanged numbers with, for business purposes. He started texting and calling me asking me to go out with him. I politely declined. He called me one day, and had a very eery tone to his voice. He very calmly told me “I can see your job from my house. I know your work schedule, and what kind of car you drive. Next time I see you there, I’m going to come in, break your neck, and slit your throat from ear to ear.” I called the police, and they came to meet me. The police officer called him, and said “This is officer so and so with Tulsa police dept, and I’m with (my name), and she told us you have threatened her.” This psycho told the officer “I’ll tell you exactly what I told her. When I see her at work again, I’m gonna come in, break her neck, and slit her throat from ear to ear. I’m from Turkey, and we cut peoples heads off for less.” (he said for less.. but all I had done was decline his advances). This police officer looked at me and said “there’s nothing we can do unless he tries to follow thru with his threat. I do think you should take him seriously, and leave town for awhile.” I asked “is this not terroristic threatening? Can he not be charged for that?” Again he told me “not unless he tries to carry out his threat. I strongly advise you to quit your job for awhile and leave town, and go stay somewhere safe”. I did quit my job, and went a state away to stay with my parents for the next 5 months. I now carry my own protection. The police won’t protect you.

[@JaySamurai79]

@@kristy4245 Stay sake Kristy, I pray nothing ever comes of this.

[@kristy4245]

@@JaySamurai79 thank you! This was several years ago though..

[@JaySamurai79]

@@kristy4245 Okay thats good, and thanks for sharing your experience.

[@maybememory1]

I think that anyone convicted of offenses like domestic violence, coercive control, stalking or fraud, should have to register (like a sex offender), and we should be able to check it when we are entering into a new relationship. There are so many people injured, traumatized or killed by someone who had had police complaints, previous charges, even prison time, and enter into new relationships with people who have no idea. At least if we know, we can make an informed decision whether or not to date them.

[@lowlowseesee]

Agreed. I’m in the field partially and this would help tremendously. Databases are popping up on social media but we need an effective global or national one

[@LadyAtheOnly]

I agree. That’s a fantastically wise idea.

[@ayydakota788]

You’re too liberal

[@megankelly8130]

@@ayydakota788 trying to keep people safe is liberal????? 😂

[@unbelievable24]

​@@megankelly8130, sounds like somebody just doesn't want to be on, "the list" lol

[@jazzh2019]

The lesson is when your dear loved one is being harassed and threatened you Don't let them be alone even in public. They need witnesses and support.

[@teem5642]

It's not easy to constantly monitor an adult 24/7 as people have their own lives to live.

[@carmenalinaiancu3738]

Right? I couldn't believe her friends let her leave the pub by herself when they knew he also was around

[@satob7690]

Unfortunately that could just end up with yourself as well as your friend dead. When someone wants to kill you nothing will stop them, except for their own death.

[@heathersparlor]

I think when you get to the point of going to the cops. It is time to unplug and not post your every move. Now, as I say that some people are very determined no matter what precautions you take. I wish it ended with this strong women living.

[@joycejy1224]

You should ask the person to protect themselves, that other person needs help.

[@rosemarykriegel3226]

Never tell someone not to worry when they are dealing with a psychopath. That's oxymoronic.

[@latasha195]

Exactly smh

[@valenlevalenle6394]

@@jyotivig3666 She means, when she called her friend that he had shown up to the gym, the friend said, "not to worry, he's a psychopath" and she was murdered by him mere moments later. Never tell someone not to worry if their stalker shows up somewhere. It is important to worry and call the police to escort you to your car if you are genuinely worried for your safety.

[@WideAwakeHuman]

I mean it’s really just moronic boy oxymoronic

[@nicholasshade1366]

This is really sad. 😞

[@virg0_lem0nade]

That's not even close to what the word "oxymoron" means 😂

[@Reevay762]

It's so sad. RIP Molly. All the red signs for intimate partner violence and mental health as well as stalking in a relationship should be taught in schools at early ages.

[@princessbuttercup8954]

My exact thoughts.

[@rubydawn1]

I once went to speak at a high school about being in a abusive relationship

[@ad6417]

This doesn't need to be taught in school. It's common sense.

[@swimgirl24]

We need stricter laws against stalkers. Why does this take so long? So many years later and very little change.

[@xChijouChanx]

Because police in like...every country won't do anything until they hurt you. it's insane

[@shingj4007]

I doubt there is any law that would stop crazy people like Josh from doing the things he decided to do.

[@JdM84126]

yes, or maybe like a restraining orders

[@Ellie80681]

If they could chase every person that hates someone… they would have to hire everyone in the world. 😢

[@l.palmer6747]

@@JdM84126 Restraining orders only work if the stalker is law abiding. With the crazy ones it will get you hurt or dead. And basically I think a stalker is crazy anyway.

[@clairmac]

It angers me to no end when you can't do basic things like enjoy a dinner, go to the gym, do groceries and go to class, have something bad happen to you and people are like "Well wrong place, wrong time" or "You shouldn't have said you were going to the gym on facebook". Why can't we blame the murdering stalker a$$hole for being where they shouldn't? Why can't we have a system where if someone who has a serious stalking history and is known to the police have some sort of check in program with probation or something. I really don't know the best answer but literally anything is better than a "we'll tell him to leave you alone and best of luck to you" approach from the police.

[@ladyelevator5693]

EXACTLY!!!! The focus of blame & "lesson learned" is always on the victim, never the criminal or anyone who enabled the criminal. I do believe that once you break up with an abusive person, there should be no further contact of any kind, but sadly, that is easier said than done for alot of women because women have softer hearts. It sucks that people take advantage of that.

[@hollyroxy25]

Police don’t do shit until it’s too late. I pressed charges on my ex & warned them how dangerous he was & the officer promised they’d pick him up that weekend. I stayed with my Mom & he showed up multiple times banging on the door screaming outside, when I called 911 I was told there’s nothing they could do about it & that it could take weeks, months, even years to pick someone up on warrants! After 2 1/2 weeks I had to go back home though I really didn’t feel safe. A week later he turned up, pointing a gun in my face threatening me, I managed to run quickly to the neighbors, he shot the gun several times & came banging on their door threatening them then drove off. Police finally arrested him but that incident could’ve been prevented if they’d listened to me & arrested him long before. Someone could’ve been hurt or killed, my neighbors 10 year old daughter was inside their house at the time! Police in my county didn’t even bother to take photos of the bullet casings & take witness statements! Now how are they going to prove what happened in court?? They really are a joke & this is exactly why so many women end up dead!

[@stacierose1692]

@@hollyroxy25 oh my im sorry to hear this! Prayers to you🙏🙏

[@susandorcean4555]

@@hollyroxy25 I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm so glad they finally arrested him. They really need to change the law. Us women should feel safe and be protected. God bless.🙏🙏💕

[@maddiehasyoutube]

You said it perfectly! So tired of this victim blaming world we live in!

[@youknow95]

And nobody came to help when she said she was all alone with him at the gym. Great friends! Telling her to leave the gym is the baddest advice ever.

[@Mica-e4p]

Excuse me? Call the police. Don't keep your same routine. Reading Gavin de Becker's The Gift of Fear about stalkers.

[@Sisflowflow]

Her mother didn’t show up at the gym so why expect friends to respond differently???!!! She did text her mother, you know

[@ad6417]

Yet she lit up a room... Go figure.

[@hollystiener16]

@@Mica-e4p He knew where she was from social media, not a routine

[@CairynJay]

I want to hear from the girl that agreed to relay information to him. Why did she think that was ok and HOW did he convince her to do it?!

[@melissam597]

She's complicit IMO

[@willamestrada1121]

Her name is Elizabeth Warren.

[@suemonk9021]

Let’s not forget that he was a master manipulator who would have made her believe that Molly was in the wrong. Who knows. He was the murderer.

[@TJ-wz3tt]

She should be charged as an accessory

[@killmoreturtles]

@@suemonk9021 Well, at least one of the 5 commenters here is reasonable.

[@priscillataylor5190]

I watched this and broke down crying. Her story is literally the same as mine. Thankfully....I had a dad that handled him. I know how much fear she felt.

[@sadotter5]

I’m so sorry you had to go through that 🥺 Im glad you survived! Her story is heartbreaking

[@priscillataylor5190]

@Stacey you're so sweet. I fine. This was 12 years ago. I'm happily married now. I'm thankful that's all behind me now.

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

God Bless you Priscilla Amen xxxxxxx and God Bless Your Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx well done to your Dad x

[@breaks3085]

Your just saying that for online attention

[@ibrahimlovesblink]

how pretty u are

[@cate-jb7ym]

Also if you are dealing with someone like this blocking them isnt enough. Delete all your media accounts change phone number and move house temporarily. Death threats are not to be fucked about with. Speaking from experience I had to move country because of my abuser and stayed under the radar for 6 years and I still feel hes watching me sometimes

[@carriebell3566]

Stalkers rarely give up the stalking.

[@maryannemaccri704]

So sorry 😞

[@hollystiener16]

Yup. I had to do this, except I moved across town, not the country. I hid and he had no idea where I was. Horrible experience that still affect me today

[@Katmorrow90]

I feel like this video needs to be shared with every single high school and college student as something mandatory that needs to be watched every year. This is exactly why you should not post where you are and what you’re doing on social media. It’s definitely a huge cautionary tale.

[@goodnessmercybegood2all450]

You are profoundly correct xxxxx

[@ccc4102]

I absolutely agree.

[@reggaefan2700]

Why is she asking for help? 16:51 Her friends told her not to go back with him.

[@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat]

@@reggaefan2700 . Have you ever been in such a relationship? They are extremely hard to extract yourself from, and normally require several attempts to break free for good.

[@MarshasJourney]

Yep I always post after the fact and if it's a place I go repeatedly like the gym and never post the location

[@tashiavanpelt]

As a victim of stalking, it saved my ass being so aware of my surroundings also Keep your car doors locked while parked or stopped. I parked at a bar a minute later in my side mirror I see a guy and girl walk up both sides of my car and tried to open back doors but was locked still 😭🙏 they walked away. Had a rough life but made me tough baby

[@IwasBlueb4]

well said..i hope someone reads ur comment...u cud save some1s life

[@tashiavanpelt]

@kitty Tonic and Your name should be Kitty toxic

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

Tashia God Bless you Amen xxxxxxx and God Bless Your Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx I pray your Earthly life time has improved Amen xxxxxxx

[@tashiavanpelt]

@@scottandrewhorne4655 thank you very much Scott!!🙏❤️ god bless you and your family. Thank you for the gentle reminder I need to keep focus on him especially with my words 🫶

[@scottandrewhorne4655]

@@tashiavanpelt Yes Tashia remember Father Jesus loves you and he loves us all Father Jesus is doing his best on a very unbalenced and cruel Earthly World that it has become because of the fallen. Keep the faithTashia and keep up the Good fight xxxxxxx

[@lumenesque1]

"He was known to the police" but when she originally came to report his behaviour they simply make a phone call ASKING him to stop? This seems to be a severe case of police negligence.

[@bonitafelipe4056]

Tuf

[@kathleenp9643]

Exactly!!! I saw this case before and there is more that is not mentioned here. The police failed this young woman so bad!!! Tragic!!! 💔

[@ellenmorse8559]

I was stalked and threatened with death. I believed it then and more now. I had a friend who was a police officer who escorted me onto a plane and got me out of the country. This saved my life.

[@Cici-is9jk]

🙏🏾 so happy you’re safe

[@DaniHMcV]

Change your KZbin profile name. I had a similar thing happen and I left the region (within the same country). I never use my real name on any social media that he could somehow trace or even know what I’m watching/saying.

[@АнаБуљешевић]

This is horrible....for the first time I had a sitiation at work, in the end it didnt turn to be anything serious, but I was very affraid that he couls wait for me after work. He was just some nuts guest....But still for woman it is very traumatizing.... the most horrible thing i can imagine is to ve stalkled

[@lowlowseesee]

Always my best advice. Get as far away as possible. These abusers are next level awful

[@rubicaramelo5072]

I had an stalker during my university back in the days nothing could be done. I moved twice cities and yet he managed to find me somehow, this is way before any social media on internet. I am glad that now I am careful to who I meet and do a proper investigation before meeting any man and during dating. People are sick mentally and emotionally and you never know when you’ll get one. Just be more aware who you get closed to.

[@susanneandersen3417]

How did you get away from him in the end?

[@Chantara27]

Stabbing anyone is as personal as it gets. To stab someone 75 times is not only overkill but its downright psychotic. Rest in Peace Molly 🙏🏾❤️😢

[@Marlaina]

They don't have guns in the UK. The weapon of choice is knives and other pointy objects.

[@JesusistheonetrueGod]

This is why it's important to repent from sin and believe The Gospel of Jesus Christ. So you'll soend an eternity in bliss even if someone stabs you to death.

[@DobuDobuDobuDot]

@@JesusistheonetrueGod Nice one, you troll.

[@bryancoyne9692]

U gotta think some ppl just don't have the access to a firearm especially if it's not planned it's def up an personal tho

[@bryancoyne9692]

Way to many unnecessary details it's still a good story just makes it very long lol

[@beatricehart5614]

There is too much victim-blaming and not enough rage for the murderous stalker for me.

[@cosmicallis7936]

I understand where you're coming from.. however, it can be difficult when you see someone in this situation make alot of wrong choices..😣😣 I think what is more important here is to learn from these types of tragedies and turn the criticism into something constructive and compassionate, like spreading further awareness. Too many people are still very naive to this type of abuse and stalking. predators spacificly target naive, trusting people, especially people in recovery (of any kind) who may be still coming out of a thick mental fog... She should have put off dating imo...😔😔💔💔 Sadly and I'm not saying this in a mean way but her friend didn't exactly give her the best advice.. "don't worry about him, he's just a psycho" WHAT, REALLY!!?!?🤦🤦🤦 with peace and love, I'm sure she didn't mean to but she should have told her to dial 911 (or whatever emergency line the UK has) and told her NOT to go anywhere alone until this dude has backed off, encourage her to shift her fitness knowledge to self defense, etc.. it annoys me that people still think that a stalker is like a bad rash that will go away on its own..🙄🙄 PEOPLE NEED TO GET MORE EDUCATED AROUND THESE ISSUES!!! Again, I say that in a loving way 💚💚💚 because I have been there to..😕😕

[@j.j1999]

@@cosmicallis7936 she didn’t do wrong choices! Not one! She did NOTHING that could have prevented this sociopath of killing her. He would have done it regardless, no matter where, no matter when, no matter how protected she feels or is. Stop blaming the victim.

[@cosmicallis7936]

@@j.j1999 none of that is true. saying "there was nothing that could have stopped him" is a very narrow minded statement, pretty sure he was not a Mafia boss or a member of the CIA, you are giving this POS way too much credit 🙄🙄 and their is nothing wrong with noticing things that the victim did that was less than perfect. That's not "victim blaming" that's simply learning from someone else's mistakes. That's kinda one of the ways we are supposed to evolve as a species.... really no wonder as to why we are going backwards these days...🤦🤦🤦 Stop enabling!!

[@j.j1999]

@@cosmicallis7936 are u dumb? he killed her with 75 stabs! that was hella overkill. because he wanted her dead! if he couldn’t have her nobody could! and he would have done anything to get to kill her. he doesn’t have to be a super cia special agent or a experienced robber to kill her? put your brain on! any all day situation is enough! she couldn’t hide forever in her bedroom couldn’t she? eventually she had to go out shopping, to the doctors, to walk her dog or whatever. He would have gotten the chance eventually and he would have done it under any circumstances. your just ignorant and a victim blamer.

[@mariahmcbride9017]

My exact thoughts.

[@BrigitteGoodman]

Got stalked for decades until my stalker died of cancer. Only then I stopped looking over my shoulder or scanning restaurant tables to make sure he wasn't sitting somewhere watching me.

[@angelmarie1591]

That’s crazy I’m glad he didn’t hurt you before he died

[@pagandeva2000]

I’m so sorry that you had to be so stressed for many years. Glad he’s dead

[@kerrimuir1]

Wow.

[@nataliaswiderska2111]

Exactly my story. My stalker has died very young around 2 years ago. I seriously thought its a karma

[@pagandeva2000]

@@nataliaswiderska2111 I don’t even know him, but can’t say he’d be missed. Thank goodness he’s dead.

[@timwallace7561]

Heartbroken!! I'm a Dad, and despite how wonderful growing-up should be, the future for my two beloved daughters fills me with dread.

[@rubberbiscuit99]

Read "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin Debecker, and have your girls read it too.

[@mangohaeppchen3447]

@@rubberbiscuit99This! My father made me read that book before I left for college. No telling how many times it saved me over the past 20 years.

[@rubberbiscuit99]

@@mangohaeppchen3447 You are so fortunate to have a caring father. ☮️

[@reallyrho1101]

I cried when Molly’s parents received her diploma. Heartbreaking.

[@Nothing2seeHere4u]

I did too. Lol

[@MsHaney007]

OMG, I bawled like a baby...how heartbreaking for her parents 💔

[@s.taylor8636]

Same. So heart breaking.

[@wolfgirlie]

Omg me too, wow what a powerful moment.

[@TattooedLuna]

Me too it was so sad

[@DanaTheInsane]

Women! Please, as soon as you get in the car, LOCK THE DOORS! If you must roll the windows down, wait till you are out on the road. The time between getting in the car and starting the engine and engaging the transmission is a very big danger window. You can't run and you are hidden from the view of passers by.

[@constancewashington9019]

Always, and drive with your car doors locked...

[@kristy4245]

YES! Make it a HABIT to ALWAYS lock your doors the second you get in!! And ALWAYS pay attention to your surroundings!

[@Straightfromtheheart8691]

True but that would be useless if he carries a gun

[@suzannewebb7913]

Check the back seat before you get in car as well

[@newsing33]

27:25.....WHAT?! Why would her friends think letting her walk alone at night, knowing a violent stalker has been threatening her, is a good idea at all?!! They literally said, they watched her leave, and they stayed to have more drinks, and none of them had a second thought about it! I just don't understand their way of thinking?!

[@yviikalamendi]

Exactly what i was thinking

[@jeng9927]

THIS! Like, what?!

[@cyncity55]

Simple They were only thinking about themselves

[@asmrcrafts9279]

Hindsight is 2020

[@elizabethmenegon8057]

I like the narrator voice, very well calibrated the entire time. Professional with empathy. Brilliant.

[@catlady1017]

yes I agree 😊 I think it’s Kim Marsh

[@charliez4837]

@@catlady1017 Yeah it's her.

[@MsAmique]

This girl is dead and you choose to comment on the narrators voice.

[@elizabethmenegon8057]

Ms whatever, this girl is dead and you choose to comment on my comment.

[@kyliekyliekyliekylie]

@@MsAmique what's your point? They never said anything disrespectful about the victim. 😟

[@Bweird501]

I ended a tumultuous, abusive two year relationship and my ex showed up to my house drunk once after. Immediately filed a restraining order. Best decision of my life. Always play it safe. People are ducking crazy.

[@kristy4245]

Unfortunately, restraining orders aren’t always enough. Some people are so fixated on killing that person, they don’t care about a restraining order.

[@laviniafameitau9056]

@@kristy4245 Yep! If a restraining order stops them from showing up to your house, I don’t think they are in to really “kill” you.

[@cernunnos_lives]

You probably dodged a bullet this time. Sure the next girl has a nice surprise...

[@laviniafameitau9056]

@@cernunnos_lives Not always the case so people need to stop generalising “abusive” behaviour from spouses. Not all end in murder. Not all do the same thing to their next partner.

[@natashabegley1346]

The problem is a restraining order does nothing if the person doesn't care! Man poor women die while having retraining orders on their ex partners! I had one years back and my family put him in the hospital some humans just ain't normal they only known violence!

[@Jproartz]

“Don’t worry about him he’s a psycho” what a good reason not to worry

[@illegallyblonde232]

I learned to never post where I am until I'm gone ...rest easy Molly ..great channel

[@denisrailey777]

Hello Blondie? Lol.

[@corky3550]

It's a pity she posted at all under the circumstances

[@eamonnquigley2125]

well put young women have to be more carefull then men................... infact men really havent a clue how to date girls anymore................. iam old school i was always thought to respect women and never touch or hit a women..

[@TROLLDETECTIVE2]

@illegally Blonde It's TD 🕵️

[@melissanichilo8176]

This was Molly's first serious relationship. As soon as I heard that my heart ached. Such a sad case 😞

[@thaistomp]

She sure knew how to pick 'em.

[@haydeemaldonado1733]

Such a great human being, such a big loss, 😥.

[@breaks3085]

Sad she didn't even get a fair chance in life,

[@sonofhibbs4425]

@@thaistomp yeah, she should’ve used her psychic powers to know everything in the world. 🙄

[@thaistomp]

@@sonofhibbs4425 Lol, the guy was a walking red flag. Girls need to stop dating these goofy narcissist dudes.

[@bamazing2731]

This is why I don’t give people too many chances…you see red flags ….RUN!

[@tiatia0404]

My thoughts exactly

[@sisterkerry]

I watch a lot of true crime, but I actually gasped in shock at what happened to Molly. When her parents turned to see everyone in Rochester Cathedral in applause and ovation, I cried. God bless Molly 👼and her friends and family.

[@AngelasTravelAdventures]

The moment he showed up at the gym, I would have ran out of there! He clearly had sinister plans. What an evil man. And he stabbed her 75 times!! Just sit and count that out while banging on a table, he had to be so full of rage to do this, this poor girl didn't stand a chance, rest her soul.

[@MsVanorak]

i can't think why she didn't lock her car door the very instant she got in. it's a reflex if you are frightened.

[@deusvultpictures6550]

I think I’d have got tired after about 30 stabs my lawd

[@truelj8560]

I’m in no way blaming her but young people please stop posting your location! It’s way to many sick people in this world

[@blondie9422]

Agreed! Obviously these sickos are the ones in the wrong but we can’t control them. We can only control our own actions. Posting exact locations is only going to add fuel to the fire. It’s like letting the fox know where the hen house is.

[@SH-to8sh]

Why don't police treat crimes of stalking more seriously? All stalkers are essentially pressure cookers; they must need a very slow crime day to focus on cases of cyber bullying/stalking!

[@apinychuang1624]

I think it’s because stalking isn’t technically seen as a crime. It’s not like assault or burglary where a criminal act has been committed. Even though stalkers could have the intent of harming the person they’re stalking. Police can’t just arrest someone because they think the person might commit an act of violence. There’s a lack of certainty.

[@kristy4245]

@@apinychuang1624 - Stalking IS a crime though. It’s a felony charge if the police chose to pursue it. Unfortunately, most times they don’t.

[@heide-raquelfuss5580]

Law does not care. Period.

[@Aeon1019]

They prefer One to be DEAD!

[@TheSuperHarrygeorge]

@@kristy4245 when this murder occurred I don’t think stalking was a crime. Thankfully now it is recognised as such and p9lice and courts can act.

[@LilyRose-theOne]

The red flag was that he was rejected by his mother. That caused a rage in him and disturbed his relationships with women. If he had positive, loving relationship with his mother that probably would not had happened. All the women he dated rejected him just like his mother did. That would reignite his childhood wound over and over again.

[@viggle9482]

sounds like a narcissist setting.

[@Void0420]

Lots of people are rejected by there parents. Most of them don’t go around stalking people and stabbing them 75 times.

[@LilyRose-theOne]

@@Void0420 - that is true, but some people do… Some people who are terribly abused kill the abuser, some don’t, or even forgive them. I guess it depends on the personality structure or maybe the severity of abuse, but the truth is that abuse, rejection, abandonment, etc. can cause a lot of psychological damage in child. You you track the childhood history of people who committed terrifying crimes. They were severely abused either physically or psychologically. Children who are raised in a loving environment do not kill.

[@frances.e.s8203]

@@Void0420 this is true. But humans aren’t carbon copies of each other and won’t turn out exactly the same. It’s far too complex. But absolutely not being raised by his mother was a major contributing factor here.

[@clrr8400]

@@Void0420 exactly

[@jacquelinesmart2260]

Molly has a crazy ex boyfriend who had abused her on social media, threatened her, and stalked her, and she thought it was a good idea to continue posting about her whereabouts. Awareness and self preservation should be taught in school.

[@TravelAlwaysOfficial]

Should be taught at home too.

[@bambiesdoomsdayblue]

If she hadn’t posted where she was he’d have probably air tagged her still without her seeing, as there are cases where victims are airtagged without knowing. Stalkers are savvy with technology and will use every trick in the book to know what their victim is up to and where

[@redleeks6253]

​@@bambiesdoomsdayblueBut she wasn't even doing the basics, like the things she could control. I know of exes putting tracking devices under the victims cars (so they always know where they are going) and hacking their social media with softwares. Here he really didn't need..he just needed another account who was following her. This guy wasn't even so tech savvy so he could just follow her social media and her car. Her friends also give absolutely brutal advice. I don't know what kind of gym is that nobody is there not even staff but she should have called the police or even emergency number.

[@ad6417]

She was not a very bright person

[@gooblio]

Girls, please post past events. Don't put online where you are going and what you're doing. DM the friends involved in a planned night out, but not to everyone. God bless everyone stay happy and stay safe 🙏🙏🙏

[@iceblueaquamarina7389]

I have never understood why people are posting their actual whereabouts on social media, some even for the public. This was not the case here but as you could see there are ways to get to this piece of information. Sorry to hear what happened to her.

[@azcrum]

I truly believe that most of those who post about their whereabouts don’t even think twice about the danger. Young people think their invincible and nothing bad can happen to them until it does. I recall way back when I was their age, I never thought I was putting myself in danger on anything.

[@arianan1996]

I agree! My aunt post about everything she does and I’m constantly worried about her but she always says “it won’t happen to me.” Like anything can happen to anyone. I know we don’t like our minds going there but thinking that way will get you in so much trouble

[@makocadey]

Exactly. Me neither

[@candycanes7581]

I don’t know why anyone would ever post their whereabouts, Especially if you have a stalker and have just been to the police and you fear for your life. I’m certainly not victim blaming. Molly didn’t know she was involved with a narcissistic psychopath. But, all the signs are there. More people need to be educated about narcissistic abuse.

[@TheVeek192]

How about wondering WHY PEOPLE KILL? That's the act that's against the law. It's not against the law to post your location.

[@suehoult9062]

This woman giving him info on Molly's movements should face charges.

[@bambiesdoomsdayblue]

Absolutely!

[@lexi6693]

this made me cry, especially when the friends started crying. The feeling that they wished they could have helped her more is evident. RIP Molly.

[@PatriceDMV]

It's heartbreaking that her 1st relationship ended tragically. Only a psychopath would stalk someone. Why doesn't the law and police treat it more seriously and protect the victim?

[@TheVeek192]

Know what? The police are BUSY. I'm not saying that they don't have an obligation to protect the public, but that there is SO MUCH MORE PUBLIC than there are police. There simply aren't enough police to follow up on every issue.

[@ThePrincessnady1]

They don’t care about women

[@IvyCowboy]

@@TheVeek192 that is such a sad and disappointing take.

[@francesbrown6990]

The police have very high rates of DV themselves, its like asking the fox to guard the hen house. Really with the murderer's history he should have been on their radar.

[@YouTubeoooooooooo]

I agree. I went through something similar with an ex. He would do the same thing- contact my family and tell them private things to make me look bad, stalked me, chased me down in a car with a gun, etc. I called the police multiple times and showed them texts he sent threatening my life. They minimized everything and did not take me seriously. Told me to get a restraining order which was impossible because I had no address to serve him at since he was drifting from place to place at that point. I had to leave the state god only knows what may have happened had I not done that

[@Unsheathed_Soul]

This is truly sad. It's imperative to never underestimate these kind of circumstances. Don't friend ppl you don't actually know or post your every movement across social media. Nor leave an event you were stalked to alone. As a woman, situations can get dangerous quickly and we must do everything possible to protect ourselves. May she RIP.

[@TheMusicman95382]

Nothing is ever a coincidence. Always think like an investigator.

[@hearmenow909]

Don't be daft, of course coincidences happen, just not your ex turning up to places you're at, 2 times on the trot.

[@finalfantasy3808]

Everything happens for a reason, nothing is random

[@cklg88]

I was stalked but survived. I would never date a man ever again. I'm too fearful for my life.

[@missyd7120]

that is sad that it has made you so scared that you feel like you can never date again ,i hope you change your mind one day and meet someone special that will show you love and make you feel safe. not all men are like that and no i'm not a guy i just don't think all men are bad but i stand by your decision as it is yours to make it is so sad he made you feel this way and i am glad you got out of the situation safe.

[@debravan1167]

There’s good people in the world. Not all men are bad.

[@stacylynn8494]

Focus on God not finding someone to make you whole.

[@euniceaddo1160]

Wait til they call you a man hater and it’s not all men bs 🙄

[@euniceaddo1160]

@@debravan1167Crime stats hun crime stats.

[@IamBerbatov]

That’s a huge problem with posting your locations on Facebook. Even things as simple as posting when you’re on holiday will let people know you’re not at home.. I don’t know why everyone has to mark their locations to the world

[@kathleenp9643]

💯💯💯

[@ishabellanamthrak1015]

They seek validation.😊

[@davidhoratiu9901]

Corect!!!

[@jackselle4607]

Molly’s story brings so much needed attention to women who are or have been stalked. There needs to be more protection for people in these situations. The police should have provided Molly with more resources and support. Not provoke her stalker with a phone call. I feel this is where she was truly failed.

[@mrsmba2u881]

I agree it just made him go all the way left.

[@dreamweaver8798]

Agreed! Like a slap on the wrist would have been more action! A phone call? Really? Why didn’t they DO something?!

[@sandisandii2033]

I agree , yet I find that these women are usually warned by someone..but the victim will says things like "hes not going to hurt me" or "Dont worry ill be fine" Then they'll walk right into their killers hands.. Most dont see it coming...

[@jackselle4607]

@@sandisandii2033 I think a lot of domestic abuse victims don’t see it coming but it’s not that easy to get out. It took me 5 years to get out. Molly did do something, she left, she took action, the police failed her

[@candicemarie5310]

@@jackselle4607 I’m glad you are safe.

[@123UpNorth321]

Taking an ex back is even worse than dating itself.

[@TheBeepbeep2000]

I. Know most definitely my dear I been single over three years and I'm happy men are narcissistic idiots they act like there entitled for something I've met some really lying bastards in my time wound never take an ex back there pigs

[@TheBeepbeep2000]

@KR Gilmore I agree with you my dear woman are equally worse so the world is fucked there is good people's out there its finding them tinder is one of the worse date sites

[@Christina_320]

Depends on the X and situation but in this case yea no doubt.

[@leelunk8235]

NEVER TAKE AN EX BACK..BE ALONE..MOST PEOPLE ON EARTH ARE ALONE..DEAL WITH IT

[@Madeline64]

It’s so crazy how police don’t detain a man who is actively known for threatening women repetitively before he can actually act upon these things. Threats need to be illegal and punishable by law and maybe we would catch these acts before it is too late.

[@marjorjorietillman856]

Amazingly, these friends sensed this bad guy from the start, especially Emilia Davies. The police should’ve checked his records, and then leave him immediately. Her death is so sad, because she seemed very kind! Please be careful, because men are MURDERING women in scary numbers everywhere. Lastly, always lock your car, even while you’re in it. He should NEVER be released! These are NOT victim shaming points, but a few tips to help us, because the Police may have been her only hope, after meeting these monsters!

[@michellea5415]

I don’t understand how Molly’s friends didn’t accompany her to her car that night. So sad her friends didn’t even do this.

[@w-n-cw-n-c923]

I was thinking the same thing

[@sarahguy8798]

agree, I would have left with her and made her stay at my place.

[@elisa.r.]

Because unfortunately not all people realise the situation they are in is dangerous. Also they were not with her at the gym. They should have told her to lock herself in the bathroom or something and call the police. Ultimately they didn’t think he could have killed her.

[@ddajani45]

He wanted to kill her that night or another they can't be with her 24/7 ppl like him don't stop outcome in cases like this is almost always Grimm

[@the_ravens_room]

It's not her friend's fault. It's his. You shouldn't understand why he attacked her that night. It would make no difference whether or not her friends were there, he would have waited for his opportunity. Friends play no role in the 8 stages of coercive control, ending with homicide.

[@mmmfun77]

What kind of friends know she has a stalker but don't walk w her to make sure she is safe? Why didn't she IMMEDIATELY lock the doors KNOWING SHE HAS A STALKER

[@RightToFreedomGirl]

@mmm ANSWER: the kind of friends who have beendrinking alcohol & inhibitions r low & judgment diminished

[@animaladvocate8938]

She should have stayed in the gym!!!! People told her to leave! She left alone???? Why????

[@ad6417]

I guess nobody can tell what kind of person Molly was. Birds of a feather...

[@asmrcrafts9279]

​@@animaladvocate8938he would have found another way.. sadly

[@laurasalo6160]

Here's a tip: Get in the car and lock the door immediately, AND start the car immediately. Get acquainted with the way the door lock works, and make it a habit. Pay attention to your surroundings, dont let anyone get too near your car - and if someone makes you uneasy, just leave that area. Just drive away and if you need a minute, find another place to do your bs (texting, makeup, GPS etc). If you take comfort in the fact that your vehicle doors lock automatically, then you must understand that they (generally) do not lock until you actually put the vehicle in gear (drive), just so you know. So when you get in your vehicle, you are very likely gonna have to physically press the 'lock doors' button on the vehicle door. And don't open the trunk or passenger door and bend over to put all your sh*t in the vehicle - this makes you a perfect target for robbery, or kidnap, god forbid. Toss your sh*t in quickly as you get in. Get your big Instagram *ss in the vehicle FAST, and fn lock it up. And as you're sitting in the parking lot, there's no need to have the window right by your head rolled down. This gives any assailant physical access to grab your hair/clothing etc. If necessary, you could roll down the passenger window instead, but not far enuf for someone to reach their body in and physically grab you across the passenger seat, or even slither in your vehicle entirely... When you immediately lock the door, start the vehicle and are parked facing forward (so you can drive forward, not have to reverse out), then you are then in perfect position GTFO immediately, if necessary, and leave your problem in the rear view mirror. I also put my car (standard) in gear and keep my foot on the brake pedal, that way I'm immediately ready to drive off. *** This habit protected me from an altercation (or God knows what??) with a mentally disturbed (I assume) man who ran up to the driver's door of my vehicle as I returned home from work at approx 3 am one morning. He was obscured by other parked vehicles when I pulled up and came out screaming "Why are you doing this to me!?" (No, I was not in his parking spot lol) all the while waving some kind of long object that my brain claims was a sword/machete (I was so startled and frightened, and I fled so quickly, that I don't even know what it was, nor what he looked like). But, because i was confident that I was safely secured in my car (and I always keep my car running until I am actually ready to get out and go inside my house), I knew that I wasok for that moment and I was able to quickly get the heck outta there (without having to think very much about what I was gonna do) before anything bad happened. And if someone pulls a gun on you at your window, and the vehicle is all ready to go, slam that mo-fo in gear and gun it. Don't even think about it. Odds are, you're better off taking your chances than letting someone armed in your vehicle. And if they shoot you as you drive away, they were probably gonna kill you anyways, so you stand at better chance of shot missing you as you flee. Anyone can be the victim if car-jacking, robbery, or whatever, so men and women alike need to be alert. When you make your own security second-nature, it really clears the mind so that you are able to act in order to help yourself when you really need to. Nobody is gonna be able to help you in some situations. Ultimately, it's on you to look out for yourself.

[@N0N4M30]

This 💯

[@NachoAE360]

100%. Especially the locking doors, the MOMENT I get in the car I lock the doors.

[@Arysia8]

Thank you!

[@lettykamati2349]

I was also in an abusive relationship when my ex told me I deserve to die, he would jump my gate and camp in the darkness outside my home. I TOOK IT SERIOUS AND I MOVED 1000 KM AWAY. I LIVED. Please take it serious and just move disappear

[@93ajcollier]

This is why women need strong men in their life. Women need to start involving their fathers again on their dating life. Men scare off weak men like this. If her father, brother, husband knew this was happening there is no way they would allow this. The problem is that women will call those men controlling for trying to keep them safe from men like this killer. We civilized this world so much that we forgot how dangerous it really is. Ladies, stop saying you don’t need men. You do. The police can’t save you every time.

[@sonnycorleone2602]

Andrew, I agree100% with all your Great points. If I was Molly's brother I would of scared this stalker off by putting the fear of god into him if he ever bothered Molly again by severelly beating him up. Or get a plainclothes cop-even pretending to be a university student- guarding Molly at all times and if the stalker strikes Arrest him!

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

These type of cases are shockingly common... when poeple think of the violence of being rejected they often think of men who throw acid in the face of women who reject them in developing countries.. but look it happens all over the world even in the wealthiest countries.. so tragic...

[@nickisnyder3450]

I had a deranged stalker who was a 5th degree blackbelt, he taught Tae Kwon Do & all his underling blackbelts from his Do Jo assisted him in his stalking of me. When I moved to avoid him, he would follow my children home from their activities to find where I had moved to as he knew my routine & the details of my life. Fortunately, these were the days before social media. To this day I am not on social media but somehow I am in other peoples posts & see how difficult it would be to hide. To lose my stalker, I had to have my 2 older school age children go stay with their father while I took my baby (stalkers child) & hid. As a nurse I did not dare work at a hospital or nursing home where he'd be looking for me. I did private duty & hid for 3 years until he finally gave up & moved on. I know he would have killed me as at the end he was telling me how he was going to kill me & what he would do with my dead body. My monster is now dead, God is good. He died of liver cirrhosis at age 59 as he was an alcoholic.

[@adnamahad9678]

Wow hatts off to you you are a survivor.

[@nickisnyder3450]

@@adnamahad9678 thanks....odd telling that story here to strangers but this story was a trigger

[@adnamahad9678]

@@nickisnyder3450 indeed you shouldn't shy away from speaking about it even to strangers im sure they can learn survival skills from you sharing your experience with people especially kind hearted who are flooded in the comment some are survivors and some are also scared of something like this happening to them so you did amazing by sharing it with all us.

[@latasha195]

Yayyyyyyyy glad he died so that you have no more worries about him. I am so sorry you went through all of that but I am so glad that you are here to tell your story. I've been stalked and harassed but thank God not to this dangerous extent. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@latasha195]

Yayyyyyyyy glad he died so that you have no more worries about him. I am so sorry you went through all of that but I am so glad that you are here to tell your story. I've been stalked and harassed but thank God not to this dangerous extent. 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@jen-a-purr]

It’s insane to me how it takes murdering someone for stalking to be a thing in our world of justice in whatever country they’re in.

[@caryoulwhitty]

I know a woman that actually had to leave the country she was living in due to stalking. It is such an awful thing, and so almost impossible to keep yourself safe and to lead a normal life.

[@АнаБуљешевић]

Luckily she was able to leave...some dont have that opportunity due to non eu passport, they basically cannot go anywhere

[@vegito179]

​@@АнаБуљешевићyoo the boogeyman is coming be very afraid 😂

[@jenniferg.3857]

This guy is a frickin loser. How dare he take his irrational emotions out on someone else's life. Prayers to her family and friends

[@gobblelevclass3nuclearsubm393]

shes ordinary looking why would he stalk her ? he must be really desperate

[@quentillaalton6518]

​@gobblelev class 3 nuclear submarine seriously? Wtf. He's the one who is average -- and downright disgusting if you factor in his personality.

[@purestorage1086]

Rejection hurts somehow people tend to love and adore people that reject them ... :😢 someone that rejects you looks like someone that has More value than you even if that person is garbage

[@purestorage1086]

Best advice... Run away from people that rejects you

[@angeliqueoren2462]

When someone is unstable you delete your social media! Don't share anything private online!

[@wolfmama7879]

Tinder is a predator app. Not a dating app.

[@JimL2883]

Yep and loose women go on it.

[@andreabc2590]

​@@JimL2883yikes, incel much?

[@aliciakraynik7674]

​@@JimL2883and you would know what that is.

[@jakesherron2390]

So he calls women on Tinder loose. And this triggers you two girls whereby you respond by calling him an incel who can’t get loose women… interesting how women react

[@Realitycheck98765]

found my wife on tinder. it’s true there are loose women though.

[@n.l.vannstallings4664]

I'd like to see more programs developed to combat stalking. Start off with going into high schools and educating students and teachers about the warning signs of stalking. Then give both girls and boys the tools and resources they need to protect themselves. Mental Health Resources for the stalker's to realize their own behavior and how to stop themselves from taking it to the next level. Resources for those being stalked to know how to get out of it safely. New laws to help police take action in the earliest stages to punish those who are starting their dangerous behaviors towards someone.

[@sydneysclafani872]

100%

[@kristy4245]

If only......

[@Katiibaby]

Go listen to strictly stalking podcast such an eye opener on stalking.

[@rosyapplekitchen635]

Exactly this would have helped me a lot when it happened to me at 16

[@uzaktakikedi]

What are the warning signs of stalking…?

[@nicolecarnevale3226]

I’m so sorry to MollyS mother and friends. I have been stalked by a stranger for years. If you are being stalked and the person damages your property, shows a disregard for laws and is obsessed I’d advise you to handle your stalker with vigorous self protection. Stalking is hard to prove and many stalking cases aren’t solved until it’s too late. This is your life. Protect it.

[@lisachatham8690]

My deepest condolences to Molly's friend and family. She was such a beautiful light in this dark and cruel world. It seems like the brightest lights are always extinguished first. May her memory and message live on in the hearts of those who loved her in the correct and safe way. I never got the chance to know her, but I will remember her from this video forever. RIP MOLLY YOU ARE REMEMBERED!!!?

[@anitabuck9823]

He is crazy

[@guyrabinowitz]

Why the question mark at the end of your comment?

[@AbdulHannan-zh9oo]

Assalamullikom?

[@richardnixon8720]

@@anitabuck9823 thanks for that amazingly obvious take darling

[@staceyg861]

It’s always the most loving and trusting ones that stuff like this happens to. It’s because they are so loving and trusting that they are preyed upon! It’s really a sad situation because having a good heart should not make us targets but it does! She was a beautiful girl with such a lively spirit and a progressive outlook on life. Very smart and knew what she wanted! Stories like this just hurts my heart I tell you! S.I.P. Heavenly Angel! You are with your father God now! No if ands or but about any of it!

[@brendaleary9281]

Life without parole! Its about damn time that criminal gets what's deserving of him. WTF is Tinder not taken down. Too many horrific stories about people meeting on tinder

[@johnscanlon2598]

Because for a lot of good people it works out

[@brendaleary9281]

@@johnscanlon2598 Okay this is good, but the risks are to die for

[@foxxycleopatra615]

Someone could just as easily be a psychopathic stalker murderer if you met them at a grocery store, with your friends and even in church. Tinder isn’t the problem. Psychopaths are the problem.

[@TheCalliBaby]

I get where you’re coming from, but it’s no more dangerous than meeting someone in public. I was abused by guys I’d met organically in person, even someone I knew since elementary school. Dating apps are just another vehicle for these psychopaths and narcissists to meet potential victims, but they can find them virtually anywhere, on the internet and outside of the internet. I met my current boyfriend on Tinder, and our friends met their current girlfriend and fiancé on Bumble and Tinder respectively. We all just need to be careful of who we’re interacting with and reporting behavior that is suspected to be dangerous to the proper authorities.

[@calebkent6706]

Third cousin of mine went to meet a woman last year both were 19-20 then when he arrived realized it was a robbery setup and she sent three guys to beat him up he got away luckily but yea tinder is a place with people waiting to kill or rob someone

[@bassacoustic1549]

I’ve just watched this one and also the Alice Ruggles case. As well as the obvious takeaways about how evil these guys are... I also find it fairly jaw dropping that these guys are willing to throw away their own lives and go to prison. How can you be that blinded by bitterness towards one person that you’re willing to destroy multiple lives, including your own? It’s sad when nice girls unknowingly get with these absolute lunatics. Lots of obsessive, controlling types out there it seems... and the obsession doesn’t end after a breakup, it just seems to increase. I feel for girls caught up in these situations, not knowing how to get away, and worrying about how the guy will react if she dumps him.

[@gigicolada]

I thought of Alice too. It seems so avoidable but these guys will do anything to hurt their target.

[@JaneA544]

It's sad that ANY girl u knowingly gets with these nutjobs. I think education should start young about respecting the decisions of each other when you break up, but girls in particular should be taught how to see the red flags

[@yeseniag355]

The number one thing a female should do as soon as she gets in her car is lock the doors.

[@JorgePetraglia2009]

I realized that social media is as "safe" as meeting someone in a bar or a party. There is and never was a warranty on the kind of person one can meet through any of these ways. Acknowledge of character and personality is something that takes time and observation. Even people whom are married for many years find stuff, overtime, that doesn't work for them; let alone dangerous behaviour. All we can do is use as much common sense as possible and hope for the best. Greetings from Toronto.

[@johannas.l.brushane2518]

And it's really disturbing that in this day and age there are people who seem completely in belief that they really are entitled to have someone who doesn't have any such feeling for them. As if they were dealing with a dog that ran off when they opened a door and goes after them and try to put a leash on them?

[@orionxtc1119]

If someone wants to meet "online", they are taking a huge risk... most people meet in real life in school/uni, clubs, bars etc where they can assess a person more intimately as well as their friends...

[@TJ-wz3tt]

Background check

[@kerrimuir1]

@@orionxtc1119 there is no difference meeting people in these places opposed to "online". Takes time for someone's crazy to come out. You could be living with someone for months or years and still not fully know what's going on in their melon.

[@lauriefaithprescott]

Watching all these true crime shows just makes me feel grateful because I've learned so much from them. Rest in peace molly and I'm so sorry your life was taken too soon. Ladies please be careful out there. Listen to your gut. Be safe

[@bonita7335]

It’s scary how many psychotic people are on dating sites. I feel sorry for this girl and her family. I’ve always thought people post too much personal information on Facebook and other platforms like, this is where I’m going to eat, I’m gonna be on vacation for a week, I’m on vacation and this is what im doing. all this should be posted after you’re done if, you feel the need you have to tell Facebook every single move that you’re making.

[@lailanimessina1473]

People crave attention unfortunately

[@JessicaRodriguez-zy5gz]

@@lailanimessina1473 yes ma’am! They get validation from Likes and attention

[@Straightfromtheheart8691]

Spot on!!!

[@nicolewaldele1506]

@@lailanimessina1473 when I was younger and FB first came out I would post those things but my mom saw it and made me take it down and explained why. It’s not always attention. No one thinks this will truly happen. Why would u think this way unless u have lived it (my mom was a DV survivor who was stalked)

[@lailanimessina1473]

@@nicolewaldele1506 I’m a DV survivor too and I still stand by what I said ! Just like there’s some females who are also very abusive to their bf/husband and want to hit all on men then wanna cry victim when he hits her back ! IF a female hits a man expect to get hit back 🤷🏻‍♀️ Females (especially these days with social media) crave attention from strangers WAY TOO MUCH ! That’s their validation and that’s a problem

[@cherish_xo]

😔I saw the title for the first time and thought it said 'I Killed My Stalker' and almost felt some sort of victory but my heart sank after I double checked. RIP Molly...

[@shaniecegullison]

Omg same I thought that too and then my heart sunk

[@Andre-y5o]

Whoever "fed" him information should be jailed

[@marysmith9954]

Lesson- If you are being stalked do not post online information about yourself So sad for Molly

[@kdfree91]

I'd even go one step further by saying that women should make it a constant habit of locking their doors as soon as they get inside their car.

[@wherethewildflowersare]

I know all too well how she felt. I have a serious stalker. There are no boundaries. Imagine being violated and having been watched for 3.5 years, possibly longer. It is literal HELL. I have PTSD from it and will never give my number out even to a friend. Everything was hacked, etc. Evil demons will get what’s coming to them.

[@missylee1539]

I hope you are taking steps to keep him away from you sweetie. It’s a crazy world. You are in my prayers. I couldn’t imagine the horror of that.

[@wherethewildflowersare]

@@missylee1539 thank you. Oh yes I am! I have done and tried everything and he is still 10 steps ahead of me. Please pray for my family and I. God bless you 🤍🙏🏻😊

[@magenta.indigena]

get a gun

[@adnamahad9678]

Girl be careful never be alone at home at any circumstances and move to another city i will pray for you beautiful lady.

[@wherethewildflowersare]

@@adnamahad9678 thank you! I live in a different state now. God bless 🙏🏻

[@kelcastle7645]

If you have problems, finding someone with problems is not a good match. The balance is that someone stable will help the other weaker to get better.

[@Eneda28]

75 stabs??? Unbelievable...unimaginable scene for my brain! Rest in peace beautiful angel!

[@susangraham8972]

Such a tragedy. There needs to be laws, strict laws, concerning stalkers

[@MychelleCraig]

It’s true! There’s practically nothing protecting women against stalkers

[@grahamnewton3637]

Perpetrators have more rights than victims it seems

[@blondie9422]

Sometimes they can put trackers on your car. Always check underneath the car just in case.

[@ThatSpadeGirl]

So tragic. You just never know what's going on in someone's head.

[@the_ravens_room]

There are 8 stages of coercive control, 7 of these act as a red flags, the last stage being homicide. The signs are there, not everyone knows the severity of them though.

[@pilotmburu]

Actually, you do. You ignore the red flags.

[@sparkysmom544]

The lesson we should learn from this is to not post everything about yourself on social media because psychos use it to stalk people. Privatize your life more to stay safe.

[@IwasBlueb4]

Thank God someone said something wise

[@phoenixrising5088]

I am not on any social media apart from KZbin. Why would anyone want to reveal their life to the public? It's often a recipe for disaster as we all know. It's also a haven for Narcissist's, not just psychos.

[@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat]

True. However, I was stalked by a crazy ex-boyfriend and that was in the 1980s (well before social media).....so may well happen whatever the circumstances

[@sully9836]

But the sad thing is if they wanna get u they will get u by not posting online it might just delay it a little people who are stalking victims should be given a special panic device that they can push once and police automatically know the location etc and have to come check up on u

[@Freya1412]

@Barney McGrew it's not victim blaming to acknowledge things we can learn from a tragic event. It would be victim blaming if op said that the victim is responsible in some way for posting her whereabouts on social media. But op never made that claim. They are just taking away a valuable lesson that could save a life one day.

[@jerrybowers8833]

I'm so very sorry this happened to such a young, vibrant, beautiful, talented woman. My sincerest heartfelt condolences to her family and friends. As someone that was kidnapped at the young age of 15, I Never post anything on social media, that's personal, much less where I am, or where I'm going. My heart goes out to sweet Molly.😭

[@cathy3613]

I am so sorry for her 🙏 I survived Domestic Violence from ex- husband and when we divorced he stalked me and did same things: tires, etc. I started having my abuse at 32 and now 57 and still cannot understand how I lost me to all of the abuse. So please be careful men or women especially online encounters! I met my husband through a friend but he had no idea he was abusive like that.

[@karenk3458]

I heard this story before and it’s still unnerving each time I hear how this coward took her life. RIP Molly

[@TJGAMINGSCOTLAND]

I can relate as I had an abusive ex and I was scared to speak up at times. Fear is a horrible aspect of a manipulative relationship. I would get punched, pushed in to a door and I was going through alcoholism so I had abdominal pain. My ex would lay his legs on me and not listen to me. I ended up going to my bedroom most of the time to escape it all and just cry and I’d drink more. Overall I say to anyone coming from a gay man and anybody who is in pain, don’t let them win. That’s what they want, you’re worth more than that ❤️🙏🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 Love from Scotland

[@elisevautour6292]

Tragic and very real. Stalking is a very serious issue. My Heart aches for Molly's family, friends, students, faculty and their communities. The Molly Foundation is a great way to honour her. I can't believe he only got manslaughter. Laws need to change, especially Stalking. Keep shining on Molly. 🕊️🌟💕

[@majorcynic]

He was found guilty of murder. HE wanted to only be charged with manslaughter due to "diminished capacity." He got life without parole.

[@elisevautour6292]

@@majorcynic oh great, thanks for clearing that up sunshine.

[@majorcynic]

​@@elisevautour6292 ​ @Elise Vautour Yer the one who said he only got manslaughter, sweetie pie

[@sheliamullins8256]

When you see the first sign of a Narcissist is controlling..people needs too realize if someone don't wanna be with you leave them alone.. So heartbreaking such a beautiful woman..

[@dr.z3426]

It's weird how everyone who ever gets murdered is such an angel. Lol..

[@Alexandra-xt1vf]

@@dr.z3426 Kind people get targeted by psychos

[@dr.z3426]

@@Alexandra-xt1vf that is a gross over simplification of reality

[@Alexandra-xt1vf]

@@dr.z3426 Nice people are more likely to be taken advantage of bc they are more naive and trusting but experience allows people to learn to break that cycle if they choose.

[@dr.z3426]

@@Alexandra-xt1vf Niceness is a quality that all people possess it's not a person

[@jeanbeans7926]

There needs to be an awareness-movement regarding this type of dangerous personality. Young women are sometimes flattered that someone wants them all to themselves. Instead they should be freaked out and run the other way, fast.

[@AmberlyKay]

Pure evil!!! You have a million ppl loving you and it takes one evil soul to take you away from your family and friends! Rest easy Molly 🕊

[@lauraliemilee5186]

Let me get this straight, she was being threatened, called the police, but none of her friends are concerned to let her leave alone?

[@candycanes7581]

She said, they didn’t even bat an eyelid. 🤷‍♀️😳

[@Spongebob0911]

When the Police said to him, "We are not going to hear more about this, aren't we ? His arrogant reply should have been a red flag. But yet they decided to do nothing even while he had this history of violent stalking behavior. So, it doesnt surprise me 2 women a week are victim of such behavior and violence. It should be clear by now that sending people home with a "good luck" and "stay safe" doesnt really work.

[@TheKlh54]

So heartbreaking. It’s true social media brings a whole new level of being vulnerable. Your whole life is on display. So sorry for Molly’s family💗

[@americanreality2462]

I remember years ago (like 15 years ago), people would post on FB when they were leaving for vacation and where they were going and when they would return. Then their house would get broken into when they were gone... NEVER post on social media where you are going to be! Always post AFTERWARDS! It was one of the basic online safety measures we were told to follow

[@ramsfan515]

Teach your sons to accept rejection with dignity and grace.

[@missbabbett9086]

I'm so happy to hear that the courts put that man away for the rest of his life.❤️