Here is How the 2020 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel Tows and Goes Off-Road! First Drive Review

[@edwardpate6128]

Finally a manufacturer making the diesel available in EVERY trim level! Hear that GM and Ford?

[@mikeriv60]

Offered in every 1500 model. Very nice.

[@jessehernandez5043]

Very nice, but a $5,000 premium is well above the competition for the diesel option

[@ThePegcitydude]

Tim O. Or just get the simple truck without Diesel and save 5 gs plus a lot of money down the road when the DPF fails

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

@@ThePegcitydude the pentastar is trash

[@thejackalsmith7329]

Ford offers it on every model too. XL trim it has to be a fleet vehicle, but XLT and above the average consumer can buy it.

[@mikeriv60]

The Jackal Smith It wasn’t always they must have change recently.

[@andrewmendoza1578]

Ram is absolutely killing it with this 5th generation. Awesome trucks from exterior to interior.

[@toddrocks]

Go buy an eco diesel and see how long you think that

[@andrewmendoza1578]

toddrocks if I had $40K+ to afford one right now I would..well it’d be a tough choice between this and the hemi. Ram makes a great truck right now.

[@miket2172]

A truck killing it is not cause it looks good and has lots of buttons and gimmicks wait 5-10 years and then will see how good they are history repeats so I'm guessing its a turd like every other ram truck in the past trans problems rust problems electronic problems wait and see

[@ciscofreak73]

@@andrewmendoza1578These are the exact people RAM is looking for to buy this abomination haha!!

[@andrewmendoza1578]

mike T they’ve outsold Chevy to become the number 2 selling truck in North America, the powertrains are reliable, the technology is great, the power and capability is there and it does this all while looking great. How are they not killing it right now? Time will tell how the TECH not gimmicks will hold up on all the trucks coming out. Not just Ram. Go take that brand loyalty to a Chevy or Ford forum lol

[@Turvok]

Bought a red Limited one myself about 6 weeks ago. Towed a 10,000 lb fifth wheel for 2000 of the first 3000 km I put on it. It sure loved it and is even more peppy now and better fuel economy then when i first picked it up.

[@pechmichaelchristina2640]

Can’t wait to see the Chevy vs Ford Vs Ram 3.0L diesel show down with you guys.

[@solidhamster]

They are all going suck. the ecodiesel were nothing but trouble. and all of them will have tons of issues with emission controls crap

[@pechmichaelchristina2640]

Felix Chan lol I don’t plan to buy any I’m smarter than that I bought gas, but it’s still a cool showdown to watch 🤣

[@C10sRule]

Felix Chan - you can’t live in the past. They know the previous shortcomings and won’t repeat the same mistakes twice. If you want to live that way and be objective, there are flaws I every truck. Since no truck is perfect, see ya walking on the side of the road.

[@pacheco8245]

I can't wait to see all the litigation and all the recalls pile on.

[@solidhamster]

@@C10sRule I know all vehicles have flaws, it is just shocking to me how bad fca made those ecodiesels. I do not know a single chrysler tech that likes that engine, even the instructors for chrysler's training program doesn't like that engine. The ecodiesel were blowing up left right and center when they first came out. I ocassionaly a hemi will blow up too for no reason, but it is rare.

[@mic982]

Our 2015 eco-diesel is pretty efficient and powerful. If this is an improvement - wow.

[@miltcoronado3392]

This is where I always check the Truck Information, Thx! Fast lane Truck!

[@TFLtruck]

Thank you for watching!

[@Sig721Tau]

@@TFLtruck Doesn't Andre know that one must put their cooler and the rest of the gear in the truck bed before loading up a trailer/boat? Lol

[@slademclaughlin6966]

Andre: Take a listen Truck: NOT MAKING ANY NOISE like if you hate quiet diesels.

[@NordicNevs]

That white rebel with the ecodiesel is 🔥🔥🔥

[@hueso66able]

I can't wait to see them on the lot... Then I'll trade in my '17 for a '20. The wife will leave but I'll be happy.

[@lalito95barba]

A W same thing with me lol

[@dennisgt479]

Mine is leaving anyways, guess I'll trade in my 2008 3500, and get a new one lol.

[@horsemindedwtp]

Buy your wife one.... She'll never leave!!! (I did, she freaking love's it)

[@gladegoodrich2297]

Looks like a win win to me!

[@joelbeauregard6552]

Wish I could just trade the wife for one instead of my jeep. Lol

[@lifestyle5795]

Got to love the new Ram is beautiful and the new Futures are sweet..

[@MrNismopro]

I still remember when Dodge Ram 2500 in 2001 had the Cummins 5.9 in the 3/4 and 1 Tom trucks had an output of 240 HP and 460 torque. Now it’s half the size. 👍🏼

[@hellkitty1014]

Absolutely! And we thought that was something! Technology is amazing.

[@bretttaylor9156]

Or like in 1993 when 140hp and 410lb frog torque was unheard of

[@rrsquid]

@@bretttaylor9156 Or my previous '96 with the gas 488, 250hp & 450ftlb.

[@joeyscleaninglady2877]

This will be a beast in the wrangler

[@philtripe]

diesels suck offroad...did you see it struggle with that slight hillclimb? yeah thats the best it will do right there...to boldly go where any prerunner will go

[@buffomarinus17]

stickloaf no

[@yesno.idontknow.587]

@@philtripe they do not

[@LiveWire276]

@@philtripe military vehicles primarily use diesel and they perform 95% off road

[@ericpettyfishing]

The 5.9 is the best diesel they ever put in a Ram.

[@DeltaSierra426]

True but all Cummins are great in Ram HD, some are just better than others. It's too bad the deal fell thru with Cummins supplying a light diesel for Ram 1500... a lot of folks don't know about that.

[@60viking]

Way Different then this modern one but your right.

[@bradster1200]

@@DeltaSierra426 know why it fell through?

[@DeltaSierra426]

@@bradster1200 Two reasons: 1) Nissan had the focus of Cummins for building a brand new diesel for half tons... either an exclusive contract at the time and/or more lucrative than what Ram wanted to fork up 2) FCA became a thing after Chrysler Corps's bankruptcy proceedings, so naturally Fiat wanted to use their own diesel Remember that in 2013, the half-ton diesel market didn't exist, so a lot of uncertainty came with any investments into such. Other market macro pressures like increasing emissions regs in U.S. and a slow economic recovery didn't help. It took Ford and GM almost five years to finally compete in this space, lol.

[@LEGEND04131]

Finally Ram got designed very nice inside and out.

[@jamespenner1412]

With the chevys you told us what the fuel economy display was getting, when we get that info?? Tomorrow?? Lol great job as always!!!

[@Magilla480]

Alex on Autos review mentioned that he was getting 35 mpg on highway. I doubt EPA will come back that high, but if it did, can you say cash cow? 😅😉🤙

[@jamespenner1412]

@@Magilla480 with the chevy they got 32 if I'm right and the EPA rated it at 33. So if they are getting up to 35 it is possible... wait and see I guess

[@Magilla480]

Ive watched a few other reviews of it, and mpg has been stated as 12-16 while towing, and mid to upper 20's, and low to mid 30's just driving around normal. Be willing to bet the 4wd version gets EPA rated at 30mpg.

[@_Marc_D]

I can't wait for the Ike towing video with this vs the F-150 Diesel.

[@AmericanSurvival001]

Marc Downing you can’t buy the FordDiesel it’s fleet sales only sell?

[@_Marc_D]

@@AmericanSurvival001 It's available here.

[@sonofdad0621]

Its not available where i am at either, northern Nevada

[@_Marc_D]

@@sonofdad0621 It is available here in Canada in the XLT now for 2019. The Xl is only available for fleet customers.

[@snoopyfix2]

I'm buying this truck! Amazing what trucks can do now a days.

[@damianoverlander6766]

THIS RAM REBEL DIESEL WILL BE THE BEST OVERLAND RIG WITH AWESOME FUEL ECONOMY

[@chiefbeef2947]

Damian Overlander hol up its getting it?

[@reko3103]

The Diesel trinity is now complete, can't wait for the shootout

[@davva360]

Nice but 1200 pounds of payload is not enough for a truck rated to tow 12000 pounds. Not even close. If you have 1200 pounds of tongue weight on that truck just having a driver puts you over payload capacity.

[@cutandcleanwi6947]

Only the the tradesman is rated to tow over 12000lbs. This fully loaded limited would probably be around the 9000-10000lbs mark. This is the same with every manufacturer where the base model truck can hold and tow more.

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

Dam my new Tacoma has more payload capacity

[@k.r.v.4219]

James Wuertele that should be fine with less than half the Tow capacity!

[@itsallgood78735]

1200 lb payload is pathetic! 4 adults and that 6,000 lb boat (with 600 lb hitch weight) would exceed the payload. Are they going to offer it with airbags and a higher payload?

[@DeltaSierra426]

@@itsallgood78735 Andre is driving one with airbags. The tradesman version has much higher payload and towing. Limited is weighed down with all the bells and whistles and that huge crew cab.

[@loganholmberg2295]

I hate to say this Andre but do you think you should be break torquing a truck with a load? You've already showed that's a great way to break things. lol

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

logan holmberg That’s exactly what I thought! What a stupid & abusive bone head thing to do. And for what to show what? Next up fast moving reverse to drive with the boat hooked up? Ok the smart transmission wouldn’t allow it but you get the idea. Okay enough pick on Andre day otherwise a pretty good video.

[@elvis7094]

That seam in the tailgate is an eyesore. Reminiscent of the crack line defect that older Ford Explorers had in their rears.

[@markaamber]

It's an option. They still come standard with the regular tailgate. Get the one that you like

[@poppyneese1811]

Do I need this kind of capability,,,, nope,,,,,, but it’s cool to know it’s out there and who knows I might pick the right Powerball numbers one day. The better the up model trucks get, hopefully it works down to us base truck buyers.

[@gameshareprime]

Less than 1 minute in and I'm getting scared. Andre you remember what happened the last time you sped off in a truck while towing a trailer right? I'm sure that f150's driveshaft remembers.

[@ahmedutuber]

Please, We need special episode for RAM eTorque details.

[@ridexabide828]

Andre - way to represent Iron Range Off-Highway Vehicle State Recreation Area (Gilbert, MN). That unmistakable red dirt/water/mud is a tell-tale of wheeling at that place, even years later when you find red water on the ground after you wash your rig.

[@DeltaSierra426]

Great video! Thanks guys. Can't wait for those MPG numbers!! VM Motori designed this engine with vans and small trucks in mind, not strong, capable 1/2-ton American pick-up trucks like Ram 1500, hence no integrated exhaust brake. GM has a clean-sheet design (with specifically Silverado/Sierra 1500 in mind), so integrated it comes natural. Why Ford didn't do it? Not sure, lol. I'm guessing because the focus was fuel economy rather than max tow, as well as keeping price down? An exhaust brake adds weight, complexity, and cost, and generally in the 1/2-ton segment, a trailer brake controller is all that's needed to take care of downhill braking needs. If necessary, downshift these trucks until you get some decent natural engine breaking, i.e. 3-3.5K RPM in the light-duty diesels and 4-4.5K RPM in the big gassers. Pretty much all your modern gas engines have full fuel shut-off for no-throttle, decelerating conditions. It doesn't sound like, but don't let the engine sound fool you. ;)

[@scottandrews4822]

I'm surprised that you don't cross your safety chains where they connect to the hitch. It is better to cross them, so that if the trailer does become disconnected, the chains will form a "basket" for the front of the trailer. Just a good safety idea 💡.

[@one5thofwhiskey738]

The tech gadgetry is phenomenal and the truck looks great. But, I'll take the stripped Tradesman 4x4 with the diesel, no hyper technical stuff.. and a 6 inch aftermarket lift with Gateway Buckshots.

[@Unclesam-p3o]

Not a dodge fan !! But damm look at the interiors superb

[@Rj-to8qm]

@Mr Sunshines who gives a shit

[@Greg-op7lg]

Mr Sunshines they used to be partner companies so people usually refer to them as dodges.

[@Greg-op7lg]

Mr Sunshines no there is. They used to say on them Dodge Ram when they were together.

[@ZacharySolomon0429]

@Mr Sunshines dodge and ram never started as two separate companies. Ram was litterly dodges truck name back in the 80s to 2011. Before that that were just called dodge W series or D series. Until dodge trucks like the Ram 50, 1500, 2500, 3500. You may be confusing dodge and Chrysler.

[@fishymacaroon6]

@Mr Sunshines While he's brushing up on his history, do us all a favor and take an English course.

[@duken4evr]

Nice the diesel is available in non high end trim models.

[@joyroc885]

Really hope they fix the ecodiesel. Thanks to all the guinea pig for testing this out. :)

[@kyleknott1097]

Joyroc in had a ‘16 eco diesel laramie and it was the worst truck I’ve ever had!

[@corycoulter5140]

Joyroc my 17 has been really good so far

[@guidesoutdoors]

What about the Nissan Titan with the Cummins? Isn’t it a half ton truck? So that would compete with this truck as a half ton diesel 4x4.

[@okigojuryu]

Also, the titan with the Cummins is known as the titan XD, and Nissan labels it as a 1/2 ton plus, or as I like calling it, 5/8 ton.

[@vernlochtefeld1626]

Because of the Titan XDs heft, stiff suspension ride, turning radius, etc oh and poor for a diesel fuel economy most people compare it to a 3/4 ton truck. It’s just more comparable to the 3/4 tons and even with a tune would never sniff 30 mpg.

[@four-turns]

It’s a pos so wouldn’t consider it

[@btl4220]

What’s the tow rating of the Rebel diesel 4wd with air suspension ??

[@janozkk]

Available in every Ram model Yes !

[@MrLomacesar]

What's the max towing for 4x4 crew cab?

[@paladin11C40]

I got to check out the price of the diesel optioned trucks and wow was I surprised. On average there was a $15000.00 dollar price premium between similar equipped 1500 quad cab 4x2 pickups. At that price it wont tow or go off-road with me behind the wheel. New 2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn $58,383 diesel, New 2020 Ram 1500 Limited $74,008 diesel. New 2020 Ram 1500 Big Horn $43,158 Hemi, New 2020 Ram 1500 Limited $65,773 Hemi. I found a 2020 Grand Cherokee Trailhawk 3.6L for $43,140 dollars. The dealerships may kill this engine with these prices, you can buy a 2500 with 6.7L for those prices.

[@decoconstruction]

Brother in-law has one, he loved it until it through a rod, have to say that Ram put a new motor in it and gave him the vip warranty witch covers everything under the sun

[@travispfannmuller7717]

under standard warranty? friend of mine drove over his crank just after warranty expired because the trans downshifted for no particular reason. He got no help with the repair cost

[@billybob2584]

Watched the vid - Excellent job Andre!! Read the comments top to bottom... some pleasant some not... At the end of the day, it would be outstanding to see a vid with the direct comparison to the 3 diesels that an average person would purchase. Not just the top of the line models to include pros and cons of the Belt vs Chain and locating them on the rear of the engines. Thanks!

[@talonpilot]

When these guys do reviews, they are usually provided preproduction, fully loaded, top of the line with all of the options so that they can talk about, see, or discuss all of the features during their review, sometimes even configurations that wont be available once they go on sale.

[@JACKSONLEWISOFCANADA]

They are keeping the classic???? Did they have that many spare parts left?

[@nicholassmith7048]

No, just that many customers wanting the old truck at a great price.

[@headcas620]

It's for poor people. Actually they just do it to balance production output because of parts suppliers etc... for the new truck.

[@philtripe]

really? you dont think they just have a wharehouse full of those lemon motors? i think i'll plant a lemon tree, its cheaper

[@johndiaz7240]

Another excellent review.

[@frankgrochot8719]

9:23 regardless of what manufacturer you back, this is the type of guy you want.

[@jeffreycordle6084]

That split tailgate while cool and all that. Worries me in the strength of it. Loading a 800 pound bike in the bed would the tailgate take it or fold along that split. That would suck. And if it takes it right now how about 10 years from now?

[@garrettgulliford4986]

Well sin e most tailgates are rated for 500lbs anyways I would advise against loading an 800lb bike on it anyways lol

[@ChevyNglockMan]

Even if the mpg doesn't beat Chevy, it still can tow more n has more power, the mpg is gonna be way better then any gas v8 so it hopefully should be a win for ram, I have a 18 ecodiesel 4x4 with mt tires and I get 25mpg on the highway easy. Way better than my wife's 5.3 Chevy with mts at 18 highway

[@avidwaterfowler7522]

Why is no one talking about the issue the original 3.0 eco diesels suffered? I’m referring to the cam issue. Has this been remedied?

[@4-LOW]

The odd thing is that the long term reliability of all three competitors' 1/2 ton diesels is questionable. Never thought we'd say that with a group of diesel engines, but it's true. None of these are proven in truck use here in the U.S. Going to be a gamble!

[@calebniederhofer6529]

Last I read they are going to stop production of the ecodiesel. It has has a questionable reputation. If you are buying a diesel go up to a 3/4 ton period. You will spend that anyways on these newer 1/2 ton diesels anyways. Actually I stand corrected it's the Cummins 5.0 That will no longer be produced in the titan.

[@SylentONE]

Planned obsolescence is a real thing. If the truck lasted that long, no one would need to buy the newer models. Toyota is the only manufacturer who engineers their trucks to last a MINIMUM of 250K miles. Hence why they haven't really bothered with a redesign in like 10 years

[@calebniederhofer6529]

@@SylentONE The Tundras, as well as Tacoma's have had issues. In fact they have had lower reliability ratings than Ford at one point. Just because its Toyota does not mean anything , Its not a 4 cylinder Corolla. Many people go off about Toyota, But the reality is they are not educated on the trucks , issues itself. It's by all means a reliable truck , I have seen a tundra go a million miles. They also have had issues with previous gens too though, very expensive to repair .

[@SylentONE]

@@calebniederhofer6529 Agreed. Toyotas have problems. Unlike some manufacturers, Toyota takes responsibility, recalls and repairs those problems without issue (per my experience) I do not want to have to go back and forth with a dealer about why a manufacturing default is their responsibility.

[@coolaaronn17]

Go back to the cooling style you had in 05, with the radiator on the left side with nothing in front of it and put the transmission cooler, power steering cooler, and ac condenser on the right side.

[@marlonm396]

I've been after this truck/engine package combination. Solid work detailing it.

[@C10sRule]

For my retirement, and my future needs, fishing, camping, hiking, 1500 Crew Cab 5’7” box, Split tailgate and RamBox with a hard tonneau cover and I’m set! I just need the SXT with the off-road package, not the Rebel.

[@greggdsurf]

Da Gooch if u do so much outdoors stuff why wouldn’t u get the bigger bed? The extra foot really helps with space and i think it looks like a real truck with an actual bed lol

[@C10sRule]

Personal opinions. I agree with the double cab and longer bed looking better but, I live in Canada. For 2019 you cannot order the 6.5 foot bed and double cab with the RamBox in Canada. Often is the case in Canada that we cannot get as many versions as the USA. Our market is too small. If I was not set on the RamBox, I would get the double cab. I agree, they look better. Maybe 2020 will be different!?!? I didn’t even try to spec crew cab and the 6.4 ft box. Too long overall. Stay safe out there, Eh!

[@SurelyYewJest]

I hate to derail the discussion of trucks, but what tune do you use starting at 0:19 of the video? It's one of the better stock tunes I hear you guys use and was wondering what it's called.

[@lalito95barba]

I wonder if the Gladiator is getting the same engine with the same output?

[@Mntnere]

So Dodge won't speculate fuel mileage yet. But you guys tested and drove it enough to know. So what was the mpg's ?

[@richardclark4383]

Mntnere they are forbidden from revealing the mpg before the EPA numbers. If they piss off Ram they won’t get any more test vehicles

[@richarddodds3235]

My lease is off my 2019 LARAMIE. Next September of 2021.I really like the new 2020 Dodge Eco diesel. And great gas mileage It would be very good for truck camper. To go to the smoky mountains in Gatlinburg Tennessee. Mr.Richard E.Dodds

[@JsGarage]

The Ram has a low slung cack. Lol 9:43

[@JsGarage]

grandpa5x Pulliam Yup just having fun

[@dchawk81]

Something me and the Ram have in common.

[@jacksonlewis4365]

ok so I am confused.... they are keeping the old engine in production for the classic, when they know it is having problems? or is it going to get the new diesel but in the older truck?

[@BiggMo]

Jackson Lewis: I haven’t heard of any issues with the 2nd Gen ecodiesel. Gen 1 had some challenges (never buy 1st gen of anything - IMO)

[@TheSabrehawk]

The real question is did they end up putting the surround view camera system on the rebels for 2020?

[@TFLtruck]

The 2020 diesel Rebel we drove did not have a 360-degree camera.

[@Toblo101]

What is the tow cap of the fully loaded Rebel EcoDiesel with air suspension? I imagine less than the 12,500 on the big horn due to the off road specs and loftier suspension?

[@WBOS72]

Will the JL verdion have the same output? Love the video.

[@screddot7074]

Maybe I'll check back in about 5 years. Chevy 3.0L diesel has a payload of 1860. If frame, rear end and other components contribute to increased payload, I'm not to sure you should be taking this off road - much too delicate.

[@esimler]

screddot coil spring rear suspension is responsible for small payload

[@406Steven]

My '06 Ranger was rated to 1350 payload and it did handle a load very well, despite the coil springs I'd expect a 1/2 ton to outperform a 1/4 truck.

[@esimler]

UnsulliedSpy you must be on glue, you haven’t driven this truck with a heavy payload only your dainty ranger.

[@406Steven]

@Waylon Miller What does half a yard of gravel weigh? Because it was fine with that.

[@Magilla480]

First zomglololol 😅 can't wait for this engine in the new gladiator

[@mendivil71]

Italian made diesel in a Jeep, blasphemy. 🤨

[@Sig721Tau]

@@mendivil71 Yeah, cause no American auto manufacturer has ever used a foreign engine or components in their vehicles. *Sarcasm* I'm looking at you Ford and GM. And I almost forgot about Harley Davidson. Lol

[@jsboening]

So the diesel option should begin to pay back somewhere around 150,000 miles?

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

Jeff X when it’s time for transmission #3, and the 2nd engine!

[@jsboening]

James Wuertele Here in Michigan the body will be rotted out from all the salt.

[@not1but2and37]

That white one is for me! Good looking truck.

[@AndyTK421]

What axel ratio do Eco diesel buyers run. The stock 3.21. Or optional 3.92???

[@ati573]

Awesome trucks, now just put the engine in the wranglers and gladiator, and have the option for that split tailgate and 12inch screen

[@scottw9791]

I would love to see the engine in a power wagon or light 2500 HD pickup marketed towards people who need fuel mileage. I agree, the engine should have a exhaust brake on it! Waiting on fuel mileage numbers!

[@Ezrasideas]

Scott W I’m sorry but that makes no sense. A light hd truck? So a 1500, also you want a smaller diesel in a heavier truck for fuel economy?

[@scottw9791]

Erik Hoffman for a contractor who has to carry equipment in his truck that is heavier than what the 1500 should handle and has to drive a distance for work. I carry a light load of mowers every day, and travel a lot of mileage going from customer to customer. At the end of the year I look at my fuel bill and am always amazed on how much I spend on fuel. If I had a diesel truck that got high teens, low 20’s MPG that is almost double the fuel mileage I get saving me 50% in cost that I can put back into the business. The newest diesels don’t get the fuel mileage that the older ones use to!

[@scottw9791]

Waylon Miller deleting my truck is not a option in the people’s republic of Massachusetts! We are inspected here yearly and have to pass a DOT inspection because I am over 10,000 lbs GVW. Moving is not a option due to being surrounded by states that are as bad or worse and my business is established. I just think a smaller diesel would be a cool idea and solve problems.

[@scottw9791]

Waylon Miller titan will no longer offer the V8 5.0 Cummins in the Nissan. I think the 3.0 with a HD transmission would be something that fills in a gap that is needed!

[@05Tacoman]

Do you know if the Gladiator will have the same numbers? Or will they de-tune it for the smaller chassis?

[@harrisonkay575]

What model is the white ram ? 1500 rebel ? Hope it comes to Australia

[@brianneston2688]

You know anything about the 2021 Chevy El Camino

[@1950harleycharley]

Until they address the problems of mileage dropping off since the recalls on the 2014-16 eco diesels, I won't consider buying one...if they are not going to take care of those complaints, then they won't be taking care of mine either...Do you anticipate doing a video on the improvements FCA has done on those earlier models to satisfy those customers? Thanks!

[@Ryan40272]

Exactly. Once my truck is out of warranty, it's getting traded in for something other than a Ram. Test drove my truck with 2 miles on it, signed the purchase paperwork with 8. Loved my truck until the V08 recall. It's now officially the biggest piece of shit I've owned as far as performance and I absolutely hate the truck now.

[@C10sRule]

Not 100% of the retuned trucks were negatively affected by the tunes, in fact way less than half were affected. The problem is, those owners don’t speak up! Everyone, I predict the vast majority on here have never owned or driven the previous diesel and go off of these comments, thinks it affected every truck. It didn’t. I have two friends, both with the previous version, couldn’t tell if there was any difference. The fuel economy is the same, everything feels the same. I have driven both of their trucks before and after, and I can’t tell the difference. I didn’t get a chance to check the fuel economy myself, but I trust these guys, known them a long time and they are honest guys. I won’t follow the rumour mill. I believe there are guys that had/have problems out there and if you are one of them, I really hope they make things right for you. I just haven’t met anyone, or heard of anyone, within my family or friends that had had issues. Big family and large circle of friends, and their friends and families. The problem is real, but nowhere to the extent the forums and TFL (unfortunately) would lead you to believe. Just my experience her in ranch country.

[@skipper5951]

@@C10sRule Shill

[@Ryan40272]

@@C10sRule The owners have spoken, you're clearly not on any of the eco pages on fb where well over 90% of people have done nothing but complain and many having their trucks sit in the shop with codes that won't go away. Ram has told everyone the same thing they announced. There will be no change in fuel nor performance and it a flat out lie. I've lost 4mpg hwy, I've lost around the same in city. Out of 10 people who got the tune, I would bet 9 of them are complain about the lag and being afraid to pull out into traffic. My dealership has even started that everyone that came in for the flash has came back complaining about mileage and performance. Out of the hundreds of V08 post on the FB pages, maybe 15 people at most have said they are getting better mileage, BUT they still have noted the huge delay in acceleration. Obviously 0-60 in a half ton diesel will never be anything someone is going to brag about or even care, but when you lose a solid 3.5 seconds to 60 after a flash, that says there is an performance change.

[@C10sRule]

Ryan Hansell - bingo! FB is not an accurate representation. I only look at what I know and not the rumour mills. Stay safe out there.

[@landewis1240]

Where was this testing at?!?! Must be very close to the iron range!

[@overthinkerblue4637]

Is this a good truck for the everyday driver, who only tows every once in a while? Just concerned about the extra fuel and maintenance cost.

[@brandenwilliams9079]

Hey Andre. Another great video from you. I’m am however curious if you could tell me if the new 2020 ecodiesel has the auto stop-start technology. I’m really hoping it doesn’t 🤞

[@mr.gtmsworld2494]

Why didn’t they just put the Cummins 6.7L in the 1500 ? Maybe because the sales on the 2500 and single axle 3500 would go down big time.

[@Ryan40272]

"2014-2016 where theres emissions recall etc and the performance of the truck according to some of you was worse than it was when new. I asked Ram about this and they said they're working very closely with the epa on this new engine" What does the new engine have to do with the recall complaints?!?!?

[@aaron5222]

Lol right? I guess they are staying this one wont have issues but I would be nice to have a response

[@C10sRule]

They are not going to repeat the same mistake twice.

[@davidcd396]

@@C10sRule If they didn't want to repeat the same mistake twice, they should've dumped their Italian diesel.

[@Ryan40272]

@@C10sRule like the 25 years of repeatedly use of junk transmissions that couldn't hold the power of a Civic? Or the 25 years of repeatedly making trucks that rusted faster than a cast iron skillet coming out of a dishwasher ?

[@C10sRule]

Ryan Hansell - you are not being very objective here. GMC and Chevy have almost similar traits. Toyota had a complete buyback programme for rusted frames. Try to find a 15 year old Tacoma in the rust belt without issues and some serious, Ford 5.4 and cam phaser issues. They all have issues and you are simply stating your thoughts. However biased they are or not.

[@wgreenjr81]

I can't help but cringe when you said that under 1300 lbs payload is good for a fully loaded half ton. Ram has stepped WAY up in its game and they have a whole lot to be proud of, but their payload continues to be a joke. Before getting a 1-Ton, I had '17 Silverado 1500 fully loaded 4x4, 6.2L, sunroof, and everything else that kills payload and it could still carry a gnats ass shy of 1800 according to the VIN plate. Ram is making an incredible product, but they have got to get their payload numbers up.

[@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980]

they are called a 1/2 ton for a reason i can load 2000 pounds in my 1982 F150 that doesn't mean i should you run into breaking issues and other things

[@wgreenjr81]

@@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980 They are commonly called "half ton's" because of historic reasons. It has Zero to do with current capabilities. I am not talking about an "it'll fit" rating either, I'm talking about a door jam sticker rating. the simple fact is, for all they are doing right, Ram is way behind when it comes to payload. Go walk the dealerships and you will see first hand that Ram is class losing in payload capacity.

[@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980]

@@wgreenjr81 well when you buy a 1/2 pickup payload is WAY down on most people's list towing capacity is what people are looking for if you need more payload you need more truck and you also need to understand FTA regulates the maximum total vehicle weight to a set amount depending on vehicle class the diesel engine weighs more you are going to lose payload there is no way around it obviously the ram is heavier

[@NukePooch1]

Most crew cab truck buyers these days would be better served with a Camry. They don't haul, they don't tow...they just make the morning commute to the office. The manufacturers build soft suspensions to be nice and cushy. I agree, it's a sad situation for sure. Payload numbers are often quite a bit higher on lower-trim trucks...the ones bought by people who actually work for a living.

[@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980]

@@NukePooch1 i feel a base model in 2019 is more than anyone needs i mean if you buy a base model truck with 4WD you are going to have a more luxurious truck than say an XLT from 1990 because nowadays A/C, airbags, tachometer, dc player and radio were all extra options back them now its kinda standard but personally i just dont think trucks should be treated like a minivan

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

Can I rip out my 14.5mpg 4 liter V6 in my 4runner and put this in it? I have an irrational love for these Diesel engines. Maybe the Bronco will get one🤞

[@JohnDoe-nz6bk]

14.5? I was getting 19 in that POS!

[@okigojuryu]

Holy crap, is it modified or something? My H3T with the 5.3 V8 gets about that on 35 inch bfg km3 tires.

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

John Doe Larger tires and lift in a full time 4wd Limited. The limited is less full efficient.

[@Libertarian_Neighbor]

2.5” lift with 33” load E tires in the Limited, which has full time 4wd via a Torsten center diff. I was getting 16.5mpg before I did the mods.

[@okigojuryu]

@@Libertarian_Neighbor are they A/T or M/T tires? That can make a big difference.

[@jflowers090]

Have they commented on the egr issue?

[@Baley345c]

Make a ram eco diesel rouser but I can’t wait for the Ike gauntlet best part of tfl off-road but I also think they should etorque the diesel too for that extra torque curve and help with acceleration on heavy loads

[@kenoday7562]

I'm sure they would need a whole new transmission to take the additional torque. Maybe that will happen when Nissan or Hyundai buys Fiat .....

[@JOHNJ0HN9111]

what you all didn't understand and he didn't say.... that EcoDiesel will be in every jeep and most svu dodge offers... and people are starting to buy them in the Jeep Wrangler...

[@piglet577]

I deleted all my emissions and the truck work great !!!!! Better than when it had it on !!!!!

[@rodstiffington1006]

Where and how?

[@BiggMo]

...of coarse its strictly a recreational vehicle now so your completely legal 😉

[@Jordan91alexander]

I love these videos but serious question. What is the Trailer Acceleration test for? Nobody floors their truck with a trailer. That's a quick way to smoke your transmission.

[@RageHP-RageHorsePower]

That's why they do it

[@jessehernandez5043]

Its not always about whether or not people do it, but just as you stated, it shows durability. Also, where i live there are some on ramps that are inconveniently short and uphill, where the highway itself is level or even slightly downhill. Sometimes you have to push your truck a little bit to get to a safe merging speed. Nice to know the truck can handle a little abuse

[@RageHP-RageHorsePower]

@@jessehernandez5043 I agree

[@chadsimmons6347]

i floor it when i hear the cops coming, to keep my stolen stuff & stolen trailer!

[@RageHP-RageHorsePower]

@@chadsimmons6347 me too I have no exhaust pipes lt1 bored to 3.83 with headers

[@jamesjannell8706]

Does this new ram diesel ram engine match the duramax on mpg ? If so I say I’m going Ram just because of the interiors on these Laramie and limiteds. Great review tfl.

[@leadnsteel1428]

Hope this new engine is more reliable than the 1st one..... 1st gen had problems

[@wvcorvetteman]

Please test on the Super Ike maxed out in trailer capacity. It would be nice to compare this new Eco-Diesel with the last one you tested. If I remember correctly it had one of the slowest times ever. I purchased a new 2016 and I'm surprised they raised the towing numbers. Mine does not pull my 5,000 lb boat up Sandstone Mountain in West Virginia very easily. This is the mountain you all tested with Ford I believe in WV several years ago.

[@JimSpence]

Love how Ford messes with TFL but is the first advertiser on their Ram video

[@TadMarko]

No truck should cargo less than 18 or 20% of their maximum towing weight. Considering that tongue weights are 10 to 15% of the trailer weight, most 1/2 ton trucks right now are at least 400 to 600 pounds light on cargo. 1,290 may be good relative to other trucks, but is crazy on a truck that can tow 10,000 lbs or more.

[@joshdoesathing]

I see some of those trucks have both the RAM box and the split tailgate. According to the online configurator, that isn't possible, though. What gives?

[@Ted_Stryker]

Sometimes that's because of availability when there's a new model or option. If you're really interested in that combination though, I'd recommend just visiting a dealer and ordering one there. You may have to wait a while, but I'm sure they can accommodate you.

[@yesno.idontknow.587]

That's because you went on 2019 configurator they just put up the 2020 configurator

[@newlovesportfishing4870]

Any idea when we are going to be able to order one of these??!!

[@BiggMo]

Because boost kicks in at 2500rpms - I suspect these baby diesels will crap out if needing to start out on a significant grade with a heavy trailer or back your trailer up a graded. I bet the truck tortures the transmission till that turbo spools up. Test it on an 18% grade (common here in the NW)

[@jefftalbot8371]

Very nice looking truck!

[@arvadaangler1984]

Crazy how much tech goes into garbage trucks today! Amazing!

[@fabiansimpson7452]

Why don't the 2020 ram rebel has a front and rear lock?

[@austinminton4509]

What was the towing capacity of the ecodiesel limited you tested?

[@ChadOutdoors]

Is the new cooling layout only for the 3.0 in the 2020 1500?

[@BiggMo]

Chad Outdoors: Yes

[@ChadOutdoors]

@@BiggMo thanks

[@qlpar]

Was the 2014-2016 ecodiesel the second generation ecodiesel? Can someone explain to me the different generations of the ecodiesel?

[@jake86chev]

The first was the 2.8 CRD found in jeep liberty about 15 yrs ago. The 14-16 ecodiesel was gen 2 that got neutered by the epa/FCA fix. This new one is Gen 3

[@qlpar]

@@jake86chev Oh alright. Thanks man

[@sakarbik7535]

Looks great

[@JsGarage]

What happens when you try to shut those barn doors out of order?

[@Magilla480]

There's a rubber strip on back of the the 40% tailgate that prevents damage and prevents closing it incorrectly.

[@JsGarage]

Magilla480 Thanks! I thought I remembered seeing that but they first showed this tailgate off awhile ago and I haven’t seen it since, couldn’t remember.

[@Magilla480]

@@JsGarage no prob 🤙

[@fanaticalangl3r88]

Nice but did they work out all the 1st generation reliability issues?

[@deltakilo5797]

Thumbs up and comment even before the 15 second mark.