Here Is Why the New 2023 Ford F-150 Raptor R Has Less Horsepower Than the Ram TRX

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@stepabove2136
@stepabove2136 2 жыл бұрын
Andre is the best most professional person on tfl I hope he never leaves.
@clevejason
@clevejason 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more - he deserves a partnership or profit sharing
@FlatOutNorth
@FlatOutNorth 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Andre we all know this is you on a personal account
@timsmothers8740
@timsmothers8740 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just extremely happy That Ford has realized that They need Andre, and The TFL Platform and have come back to allowing them such Great access to The Build-up and Release of Their Vehicles. Together they do a really good job of covering all that entails the new upgrades to the Raptor and the why Fords that they did it The way they did. And some day in The Future I, can see Tommy alongside Andre,getting more involved in The Evolution of TFL And also having a deep knowledge of what The future Holds in New truck and other vehicles design. Ike To The Pike and Their Loops the have to squeeze out The Real World mileage testing. And don't forget the Dino Care LoL. And please keep The Dino Powered Vehicles Coming. Watts are fine for getting the groceries but so far that's about all !
@mdjak3686
@mdjak3686 2 жыл бұрын
@@timsmothers8740 absolutely agree. Andre is the best. Roman, on the other hand? Nah, he's pretty good too. But that Tommy boy. lol.
@klngzgh0st355
@klngzgh0st355 2 жыл бұрын
man if he starts his own channel we all have to sub so he can grow as fast as possible.
@chadkent1241
@chadkent1241 2 жыл бұрын
Cool review and break down of what makes it better than the previous versions. I think it's smart to go for a balance rather than a numbers war. Its gonna be awesome!!
@agentcarder
@agentcarder 2 жыл бұрын
Smart however weird, ford loves number wars
@rdsii64
@rdsii64 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I keep saying that the Raptor is a BETTER TRUCK than the TRX. If I had halo truck money, even if the Raptor R were off the table, I would still choose a Raptor over the TRX.
@h8GW
@h8GW 2 жыл бұрын
The numbers are getting to a point where it becomes nonsensical for day-to-day use, anyway -at least for the top trims.-
@diesel6916
@diesel6916 2 жыл бұрын
I always thought the TRX was just #'s and unusable power
@e.l.9589
@e.l.9589 2 жыл бұрын
Size doesn't matter babe, unless of course you're packing.
@MikeTarlton
@MikeTarlton 2 жыл бұрын
Ford out there testing parking garage clearance with the Raptor R. Good video as always!
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
Idk who Ford chooses as their aesthetic designers but man they make a super expensive truck sure look like a super expensive truck. This thing as a presence to it.
@michaelj1232
@michaelj1232 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheAnnoyingBoss so does a hearse
@lancescimeca4855
@lancescimeca4855 2 жыл бұрын
Pure awesome sauce! Now if I can only get the right numbers to come up on my next Lotto ticket, I'll take one! Thank you TFL, always great content. Can't wait to see you guys put one through it's paces and here your thoughts of the Raptor R vs the TRX.
@rp1645
@rp1645 2 жыл бұрын
YES you need to win a gift to make PAYMENTS Just got a very Low mileage 2021 3500 Z-7-. HD Chevy Pickup. (12000 miles) my payments are over $1000 a month. Had to have that Duramax Allison combination. Saw at Con- Expo Con- Agg in Las Vegas a few years back. The Allison booth had a heavy duty Allison all apart for show purpose. What a built workhorse of a Transmission.The Allison has been used for many years in Garage/ Fire Rigs ( heavy stop and go workouts) That was my Dream owning that Transmission. I have always been a Ford guy. But Ford Salesmen were just plan Jerks. Would NOT even talk to me unless I gave them MONEY to be on the wait list. Wouldn't even talk about his used low mileage Pickups unless I gave them money. The Dodge and Chevy Dealers took my 2000 Ford ( 64000 miles) all my mileage service has always been done by Dealer,Recorded in service Logs. Not even a test drive or gave me trade in value. This is the BIG one both different brand makers of Trucks. Did NOT expect me to buy their trucks. They both did a computer search of what they had in LOW mileage New Truck, NO expecting me to BUY that Day. I like the Cummins Diesel also.
@e.l.9589
@e.l.9589 2 жыл бұрын
We have enough viewers to pitch in on a group buy, we just have to timeshare our turn.
@Lamtitude
@Lamtitude 2 жыл бұрын
Please don’t say those first 3 words again. It’s so cringy that I couldn’t even type the words.
@saddist1Gtown
@saddist1Gtown 2 жыл бұрын
Andre has really come on a long way.. I can remmebr when he was very hesistant and shy on camera and could not speak English very well.. Kudos to TFL I thouroughly enjoyed the Video and Andre's presentation skills and style...
@creigmacc
@creigmacc 2 жыл бұрын
His English was always fine. It was his "Russian Mechanic" character you are referring to.
@LafemmebearMusic
@LafemmebearMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was a bit they played when he first joined lol
@laughingizdacure4975
@laughingizdacure4975 2 жыл бұрын
He should start his own channel. I’d Definitely subscribe
@TREVORJB101
@TREVORJB101 2 жыл бұрын
Not a Ford guy, but this is badass.
@82mattlopez
@82mattlopez 2 жыл бұрын
Took the TRX for them to bring back a v8
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 2 жыл бұрын
Fr fr Thank you Dodge
@nafsucof
@nafsucof 2 жыл бұрын
@@B49nope ??? There is tuning availability through multiple proven manufacturers including whipple. Is whipple not enough for you? Sad? your comment is sad…
@Kinginwar
@Kinginwar 2 жыл бұрын
Yup And who is Ram copying? And all they did was make a pavement stop light truck to impress the no one watching imaginary admires
@Kinginwar
@Kinginwar 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tegridynews trx started the segment? With a pavement queen to drag race on loser stop lights w their imaginary girlfriend ha ha
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kinginwar Definitely when everybody's trying to kill off the V8 and these companies are pretty much making race trucks with a v8. These companies are bipolar. To start building race trucks..
@machfive916
@machfive916 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. So glad Ford finally decided to offer a V-8 option again. Although the twin turbo V-6 Raptors are super capable, they simply can't match the sound of a V-8. Throw in the supercharger and revised suspension, and you've got a beast. Can't wait till TFL gets to test it.
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 2 жыл бұрын
They would never have done it if ram didn't come out with the TRX
@roadrunner4847
@roadrunner4847 2 жыл бұрын
@@ubeuonly yes we know thank you Dodge Ram
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 2 жыл бұрын
@@roadrunner4847 facts are facts
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 2 жыл бұрын
@@ubeuonly Dodge would have never made the TRX if it wasn't for ford. Never forget who created this badass subsegment.
@ubeuonly
@ubeuonly 2 жыл бұрын
@@KB-bh9hp that's all well and fine. But Dodge did it better and LeapFrog Ford and we'll do it again in the electric segment and Chevy will always be bringing up the rear. But that doesn't excuse for for copying the cutouts in the rear bumper copying the five link suspension, copying the tailgate shape to match the 19 ram copying the underdash of the RAM and previous generations ect.. and most raptors are pavement princesses anyway. And they sound horrific. So credit ran for doing it right and not making do with an Eco puss engine
@sagecornelius2466
@sagecornelius2466 2 жыл бұрын
I think the coolest thing is that they fit a 37" spare under the bed instead of just wasting bed space like so many others.
@kg0311
@kg0311 2 жыл бұрын
True that's huge
@NoNegotiations
@NoNegotiations Жыл бұрын
True, but most people dont even use the truck bed.
@dads2006gt
@dads2006gt 2 жыл бұрын
Always great information! Thank you. Waiting for the R vs TRX videos 😍
@B86432
@B86432 2 жыл бұрын
why are u gonna buy one? lol
@freedomisntfree_44
@freedomisntfree_44 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@dads2006gt
@dads2006gt 2 жыл бұрын
@@B86432 I work at DTP , I test the Raptors along with all other F150's. Been with FMCO for 28 years so I am interested to see how they match up "lol".
@B86432
@B86432 2 жыл бұрын
@@dads2006gt do something about my Ford stock then in the gutter
@ForTehNguyen
@ForTehNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
Ford: Look at this V6TT, its so amazing, you dont need a V8 anymore! Dodge: F it, put the hellcat engine in a Ram. Ford: Look at this V8 we put in the Raptor, isnt it amazing!!!
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 2 жыл бұрын
lso true 😆
@lucaceleb2536
@lucaceleb2536 2 жыл бұрын
“We need to accept that we won’t always make the right decisions, that we’ll screw up royally sometimes―understanding that failure is not the opposite of success, it’s part of success.”
@ebnhahn1993
@ebnhahn1993 2 жыл бұрын
We are waiting for part 2 Andre!. Great content as usual👍👍
@Ram-vt3rm
@Ram-vt3rm 2 жыл бұрын
That Ford representative needs to audition for the next season of storage wars.
@devonr9553
@devonr9553 2 жыл бұрын
i was gonna say why is he yelling? lol
@JonesingUSAF
@JonesingUSAF 2 жыл бұрын
It’s like that Samuel Jackson skit from Chapelle Show. “Why are you yelling? I’m not yelling, it’s the way I talk!”
@Jcruises_
@Jcruises_ 2 жыл бұрын
“UUhh,hmmm, uuuhhh”.. he didn’t know what the fck was going on.
@TheWizard86
@TheWizard86 2 жыл бұрын
He’s the chief engineer, he knows what the “fck” is going on.
@Jcruises_
@Jcruises_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheWizard86 it didn’t sound like it. you ever been recently hired somewhere new? That’s what he sounds like
@Show-me-how-now
@Show-me-how-now 2 жыл бұрын
Ford: Removing the torsen front diff was a mistake. Brake based traction control systems suck because: 1. It can easily be overwhelmed in high traction demand situations, such as when one wheel is off the ground, 2. It can overheat the brakes, 3. It requires the brakes to be in good working order (older brakes will not work as well), 4. It's often slow to react.
@stevevice9863
@stevevice9863 2 жыл бұрын
Agree. I prefer mechanical components rather than computer controlled electronic gizmos. Off roading should require some driver involvement instead of just being a passenger in a computer on wheels.
@markbuckholz3184
@markbuckholz3184 2 жыл бұрын
Torsen diffs are not very robust.
@Show-me-how-now
@Show-me-how-now 2 жыл бұрын
@@markbuckholz3184 I would prefer an E-locker like the Ram Power wagon or Chevy ZR2
@tallll70
@tallll70 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen break based awd react in half wheel spin while true vectoring axles on Hondas took several wheel spins on same test, but that was slow crawling speed, I would still not want to have breaks used for traction in high speed runs... I guess it's fine for getting unstuck in slow speeds
@ProjectFairmont
@ProjectFairmont 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever had a brake bias system? I felt them same until I realized how effective and robust they can be. Easier to replace pads vs locker clutches 😂
@iUsefull
@iUsefull 2 жыл бұрын
We love the details too, Andre! Thank you!
@kenyongillespie8652
@kenyongillespie8652 2 жыл бұрын
Great truck! Thanks Carl from Ford and Andre and cameraman for a great video! I would love to have a Raptor R I know the ride would be amazing.
@joelhughes6272
@joelhughes6272 2 жыл бұрын
So I am a Ford guy 100% Currently own a 2018 Platinum and I have a TRX on order. As amazing as the Raptor R is going to be, it will be 30K more than my TRX. I would assume the Raptor R will be faster due to weight savings but for 30K I could make the TRX scream. I wish it was a bit more in line with the price of a TRX
@WolfHowl71
@WolfHowl71 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome work, thanks for this! Looking forward to seeing TFL getting one of these "R" trucks!
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 2 жыл бұрын
OK, I was just at a Ford dealer to pickup my daughter to have her car serviced. There was a black Bronco Raptor on the showroom. $117k The added sticker was kind enough to state that the market adjustment is ONLY $40,000!! I hope these dealers a dry screwing when the market goes bad.
@ed8235
@ed8235 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool truck. I’d love a Trx or a Raptor R. Some day for sure!
@dr.tobiasgoodfellow5174
@dr.tobiasgoodfellow5174 2 жыл бұрын
Who in their right mind would take such an expensive and heavy vehicle jumping and to the dunes when there are fantastic side by sides made for that for a fraction of the cost. Only media outlets and KZbinrs perhaps. You could get the most expensive side by side, a brand new half ton truck and trailer and still come out ahead.
@mub9341
@mub9341 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid as always and sick truck, but it's just another vehicle from Ford that is overpriced, the dealers that get them will mark them up beyond belief, and most people won't be able to purchase one or ever see one. This is exactly what we all need, Thanks Ford.
@korn111685
@korn111685 2 жыл бұрын
Ram forced Ford to make the v8 Raptor. Ford didn’t listen to customers, ram embarrassed the wimpy v6 raptor. Thank you Ram for the Raptor R.
@lancescimeca4855
@lancescimeca4855 2 жыл бұрын
Spot on correct, Sir!
@AK_Ray
@AK_Ray 2 жыл бұрын
Wimpy v6, that whips almost every v8 ever put in a pickup.
@beto46133
@beto46133 2 жыл бұрын
​@@AK_Ray Natura aspired 😅
@chestogaming51
@chestogaming51 2 жыл бұрын
@@AK_Ray k bro
@stephengalvan7722
@stephengalvan7722 2 жыл бұрын
Speakers go bye bye-bye 😂
@kelvinmann1058
@kelvinmann1058 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome truck I just wish they would run the exhaust tips through the bumper instead of below it. They seem to always end up dragging rocks, and I bet their not cheap. 🤑
@MarkS204specC
@MarkS204specC 2 жыл бұрын
The Black Raptor R in the background is the one I want!
@electrikoptik
@electrikoptik 2 жыл бұрын
If it wasn’t for Dodge TRX Ford would be still forcing you to buy the wimpy trans girly V6 🤭
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 2 жыл бұрын
So it sounds like you dislike the V6 🤣🤣🤣
@Hunter-nb5bj
@Hunter-nb5bj 2 жыл бұрын
The V6 is still good, better than the 6.2 in terms of performance. I just took my Raptor to Flagpole Knob in virgina on saturday and was ripping it through the trails and mud holes. I think it's a great truck personally 😁
@DKLabs99
@DKLabs99 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting when they talked about the voodoo block as well as the amount of horsepower it puts out. Thanks for your content. Always good stuff
@TaigaTurf
@TaigaTurf 2 жыл бұрын
the TRX just looks better
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 2 жыл бұрын
Idk bruh
@a1qcaguy
@a1qcaguy 2 жыл бұрын
HOLY COW. I have restarted this video 4 times now. A lot of good technical information.
@bryan502004
@bryan502004 2 жыл бұрын
"Listening to customers" The Raptor R exists because the TRX took things to another level.
@cardsfan2321
@cardsfan2321 2 жыл бұрын
And the TRX exists because of the Raptor.
@davidg5965
@davidg5965 2 жыл бұрын
@@cardsfan2321 exactly 😂
@JohnDoe-qu2qo
@JohnDoe-qu2qo 2 жыл бұрын
"people were asking for a V8" yeah nobody asked ford 115K msrp with 50K markup
@mohammadbinbishr5167
@mohammadbinbishr5167 2 жыл бұрын
Throw out that 3.5 V6 and keep that fantastic V8 Keep up the great work
@joshszydel8202
@joshszydel8202 2 жыл бұрын
Love my 3.5. 22 mpg on the highway and still plenty of power.
@mohammadbinbishr5167
@mohammadbinbishr5167 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshszydel8202 it's nice to have forced induction engine but I personally prefer NA V8 or V12 (my dream) due to long-term usage and maintenance if it used in the proper way
@klaymoon1
@klaymoon1 2 жыл бұрын
That V8 engine is a beauty. So, small but better than anything before.
@williemaykit7940
@williemaykit7940 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Andre! Those were some good displays and good information.
@okie8738
@okie8738 2 жыл бұрын
700 hp for a off road truck is crazy. My first Toyota pickup didn’t even have a hundred
@bobkonradi1027
@bobkonradi1027 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that its insanely crazy is exactly what it needs to be.
@minibikemadman
@minibikemadman 2 жыл бұрын
the trx is way better.
@KB-bh9hp
@KB-bh9hp 2 жыл бұрын
@@minibikemadman Nah
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
Ford is really good at engineering their exhausts too. Our old f150 has stock exhaust and you can tell it was perfectly balanced so it isn't too loud nor too quiet and it has a good sound so even after all these years you don't get sick of it. Sounds just as good every time. I love it. They don't want it to sound bad and it's loud enough it doesn't sound anemic. my grandfather drove it one time and thought it had aftermarket exhaust because it sounded so good
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 2 жыл бұрын
Ford is doing well pretty much across the board. I am not a Ford guy but would like to own one today. I would complain about prices but they are all too expensive. The bubble may burst next year?
@JakeStewart1343
@JakeStewart1343 2 жыл бұрын
6:48 "You're taking 14 inches in the rear!" 😱
@brandedmcgowan9414
@brandedmcgowan9414 2 жыл бұрын
Seriousness of steroids or boost
@bash6519
@bash6519 2 жыл бұрын
Love the break down and different exhibits. Love to see one for Braptor
@deranged731
@deranged731 2 жыл бұрын
Great detailed inside look! Glad to nerd out with you guys.
@NissanTy
@NissanTy 2 жыл бұрын
About 95% of these will be at the local drag strips and street races, pretty much what the TRX is, an off road drag racer. Except with the TRX there is tuning available and with that, there are 9 sec TRXs
@ThorosThor
@ThorosThor 2 жыл бұрын
*RAM TRX RULES👍👍*
@thegonz7833
@thegonz7833 2 жыл бұрын
This truck is amazing,as a GM now gm...loyalist.its so figgn hard to appreciate the current gm 1/2 ton,a nice AT4 is 75-80k.......and only 420HP FU Mary Barra for putting us last.And,the Raptor is light years ahead on suspension tech.
@bliskin8847
@bliskin8847 2 жыл бұрын
Took the Torsen lsd to reduce cost, lol, I like how he spins it into a positive.
@cablenowadays6586
@cablenowadays6586 2 жыл бұрын
I was looking for this comment. Brake locking systems do not compare to a normal LSD or locker. That’s one of the only flaws i see in this truck is removing a mechanical feature for a computer one
@jamespenner1412
@jamespenner1412 2 жыл бұрын
lol thought that was funny too, all of a sudden a torsen was just usless 😆
@Josh47147
@Josh47147 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they just wanted to extend the life of the front cv axles.
@bliskin8847
@bliskin8847 2 жыл бұрын
@@Josh47147 Why would they do that, they will most likely fail out of warranty, and the customer will have to pay to repair them, making the dealer and Ford more money.
@guyod1
@guyod1 2 жыл бұрын
I have been stuck in snow countless times and when I lock the front it pulls right out.
@mrcowboypimp
@mrcowboypimp 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see Andre drive this beast!!!
@jasonpitts8395
@jasonpitts8395 2 жыл бұрын
I want a Raptor R but the price tag is ridiculous. Ask him why they cost so much? As always TFL does another great interview.
@NHDude
@NHDude 2 жыл бұрын
Because idiots will pay it
@kubeanie18
@kubeanie18 2 жыл бұрын
Because it's a fully option max spec truck the ram TRX max option is same price
@usmcvet0313
@usmcvet0313 2 жыл бұрын
People are willing to pay it
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 2 жыл бұрын
@@kubeanie18 no it’s not! The TRX is about 10 grand cheaper.
@B86432
@B86432 2 жыл бұрын
@@kubeanie18 the origional raptor race truck built by ford in 2008-2009 was around 100k lol with 500hp special cam in the 6.2 & 37s w a 4 link rear cage full coms RAPTOR XT this is no where near that
@Stevonoles1
@Stevonoles1 2 жыл бұрын
Most of them wil spend their day in a parking garage, so good shooting location!
@josemorenoporras7506
@josemorenoporras7506 2 жыл бұрын
No mention about brakes. Raptor had poor brakes like many other trucks,only the Tundra had 4 pot caliper. For a 700 HP desert truck and those big tires you would need huge brakes to get some performance over and over.
@Blue_Flame_Raptor
@Blue_Flame_Raptor 2 жыл бұрын
The trx has really bad brakes too.
@reidsgarage1100
@reidsgarage1100 2 жыл бұрын
With more parasitic drag from the supercharger the downshifting/engine braking should be stronger at slowing the vehicle down than on the 3.5 Ecoboost.
@terrencejones9817
@terrencejones9817 2 жыл бұрын
2019+ GMs use fixed 4 piston calipers too.
@edmeyer4800
@edmeyer4800 2 жыл бұрын
You gotta always drive in Sport mode and the tranny helps with downshifting to slow the beast down and sometimes you need to even downshift with the paddle shifters a little early within reason.
@randysrestoration
@randysrestoration 2 жыл бұрын
Great RaptorR vid! best most informative one yet. Can't wait for my RaptorR to show up as a stable mate to my Street version RaptorR 700hp/700tq but only 3900 lbs.
@mattman6458
@mattman6458 2 жыл бұрын
Sure did pick a dumpy looking parking garage to do this in for such a premium product launch
@Hemidakota
@Hemidakota Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't matter when you know the 6.4ltr can push north of 1000 hp. This was known years ago when a few private owners decided to do it. Next came longevity. Again, it would not matter. :) It is the same with Cummins, which is not even close to its real rating. Excellent video and very informative by the Ford Engineer.
@nadebothd4006
@nadebothd4006 2 жыл бұрын
The R is a sweet truck but not a $150k sweet after markups. The R weighs in at 6k pounds and the TRX is around 6.4k. All that talk of aluminum for the engine but the 5.2 weighs about the same as the hellcat lol.
@ThaMagnaCarta
@ThaMagnaCarta 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the fact that those 37s reduce alot of benefit that the aluminum body has over the heavier TRX.
@kubeanie18
@kubeanie18 2 жыл бұрын
400 lbs lighter negates hp diff
@ahmadflemming9041
@ahmadflemming9041 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThaMagnaCarta not with 4.10 gearing
@MstaEd
@MstaEd 2 жыл бұрын
Two Door Raptor R ....Please FORD!
@reggiep3369
@reggiep3369 2 жыл бұрын
SWEEET!!! We get to see the Raptor R's all the youtubers get and the so called tester get to beat the Fk out of. While us normal folks get our 2023 R's in 2026 for $30k over sticker and dealers string us along like crabs on a line. Man I'm EXCITED!!!
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 2 жыл бұрын
Street speed 717 already did that and bent the frame on the first jump. Why do you think he drives TRXs now?!?!
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk He didn't bend the frame on anything. He just only wants to own one truck.
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 2 жыл бұрын
@@burgerbandit3646 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️ he bent the frame on the ford and you never saw it again after that. It was even pointed out in his video that the frame was bent but he made up some excuse that it was a clip on his bed. Educate yourself before posting anymore stoopid comments!
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-nz6bk You made the right choice deleting that last comment
@JohnDoe-nz6bk
@JohnDoe-nz6bk 2 жыл бұрын
@@burgerbandit3646 I didn’t delete any comment.. sounds like you got triggered by the truth and reported it. Typical!
@RyeitOut
@RyeitOut 2 жыл бұрын
Most people who buy a Raptor or TRX just buys it just to be cool and not use half it capabilities. Expensive but nice bad-ass truck👍🏽. The furthest i’ll go is the Sierra AT4 which is perfect!
@empoweredmonkies
@empoweredmonkies 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the showdown with the trx.
@rondail5675
@rondail5675 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carl for all the information.
@sbreslin41
@sbreslin41 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Not really sure how i feel about getting rid of the torsion diff up front. On one hand, it would make 4A a lot easier to live with not having the truck pull to one side or the other, and heaving up the steering wheel. On the other hand it was great for traction on the rocks and high articulation terrain.
@cynic777
@cynic777 2 жыл бұрын
Agree they are going to try to do it with brakes applications and software but is that really as good as mechanical solution.
@rodgood
@rodgood 2 жыл бұрын
Ya not a good idea to be braking and adding power at the same time . may be the Torsen could not handle the power ?
@jabroni6199
@jabroni6199 2 жыл бұрын
@@cynic777 the thing is, they had both the torsen and TCS systems working on the Gen 2’s. Personally I think it’s a cost savings measure more than “oh we just don’t need it anymore”
@corporatebryan
@corporatebryan Жыл бұрын
@@jabroni6199I believe the gen3’s have an electronic brake booster allowing for independent braking of individual wheels. The gen 2’s didn’t have this. McLaran uses this method in leu of mechanical LSD’s as well.
@TdawggLA
@TdawggLA 2 жыл бұрын
I can't believe a few horses difference is a big deal to some people. Since when is 700 hp not enough? This truck is awesome
@ronsouza9309
@ronsouza9309 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. Please ask about the heated steering and heated mirrors that they are removing which is a very big disappointment for a $109,000 truck
@miamisasquatch
@miamisasquatch 2 жыл бұрын
Very important for dessert running
@jamesbeaman6337
@jamesbeaman6337 2 жыл бұрын
@@miamisasquatch especially if the dessert is ice cream 😉.
@fsherman898
@fsherman898 2 жыл бұрын
If you told me the Chief Engineer was Dale from Step Brothers talking, I’d believe you.
@terrencejones9817
@terrencejones9817 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen an interview so long to tell us practically nothing. Other than Ford removed the Torsen from the front.
@vinaashak
@vinaashak 2 жыл бұрын
Fairly certain I saw you guys, or at least the convoy, driving by south Lansing on 96 a couple days back! Saw around 7-10 Raptor Rs just cruising together around 8:30 am.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын
Didn’t realize they left out the front Torsen. Doesn’t the newest Ecoboost model still have it? Interesting decision, wonder if it was a cost thing or what.
@nativetexan7433
@nativetexan7433 2 жыл бұрын
Like he said, they don't need it with the electronic braking system controlling wheel spin.
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын
@@nativetexan7433 sure, but that's what the old model had as well.
@nativetexan7433
@nativetexan7433 2 жыл бұрын
@@ALMX5DP So what's your confusion then? "not needed" What part is unclear?
@ALMX5DP
@ALMX5DP 2 жыл бұрын
@@nativetexan7433 why they took it away here when it was added to the other model in their stable.
@skrsys
@skrsys 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably cost and a little weight savings that made them justify it. I'm sure the electronics will work, but not as smoothly. Toyota has been doing this with their ATRAC system for a while now.
@Truck-it150
@Truck-it150 2 жыл бұрын
As always great TFL video and lots of details. 👍Great to see drive shafts, front & rear axle and diff without any rust.😎 This is very rare at new Ford trucks. This truck is awesome -the price, too.
@earlmullet7628
@earlmullet7628 2 жыл бұрын
Must be it's first day out of the factory.
@josephdbishop6576
@josephdbishop6576 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a review of a ‘22 Maverick with a rusty muffler in fairly low miles(not Northeast, either!). Clearly a victim of excessive cost-cutting to hit a price point. Reviewer said that it would likely need replacement before warranty ended. Unacceptable!
@ColeSpolaric
@ColeSpolaric 2 жыл бұрын
Who decided a parking garage was a great place to set this up? Dude's mic was clipping the entire time because of the poor acoustics.
@jasonpitts8395
@jasonpitts8395 2 жыл бұрын
It looks like they are storing new trucks in it. Prob waiting on chips
@jerryjeromehawkins1712
@jerryjeromehawkins1712 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even notice... just enjoying the content. But then again, I'm not the kind of guy that complains about every little thing in life.
@jayxj7785
@jayxj7785 2 жыл бұрын
Love this comment 😂 but yeah what a random place for a set up
@zachconroy1443
@zachconroy1443 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think he's a "loud talker " too. pretty annoying.
@nbkking
@nbkking 2 жыл бұрын
And the cámara work at the beginning was slow, then he got it by having both guys in one frame
@mdjak3686
@mdjak3686 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best channels around. I’m a big raptor fan, on my 4th. Too bad this and the Bronco are made of unobtainium. Unless you want to dump 50k extra cash in the stealers pocket. Shame on Ford for allowing it.
@scottbrunnert4255
@scottbrunnert4255 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a new truck worth buying. Not electric, not hybrid, not turbo V6. Big supercharged V8 is the way to go! I will be getting one of these!
@joelpierce3940
@joelpierce3940 2 жыл бұрын
Looks nice. I have a new At4 6.2, which is all I need, as my 200 mph C7, fills my speed bill.
@turbodiesel4709
@turbodiesel4709 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, only problem is get ready to empty your wallet. Fun stuff costs big money.
@B86432
@B86432 2 жыл бұрын
$5 gas & 6 figure price says otherwise
@TruckGoesVroom
@TruckGoesVroom 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck finding one that's Not reserved 2 years out and not 50k above msrp
@scarroll625
@scarroll625 2 жыл бұрын
@@TruckGoesVroom my Ford dealer told me the only people even getting build slots are lifelong customers for dealerships. Even then it’s gonna be 110k+!!!!! Ram dealers everywhere have the TRX in stock now.
@jamesclapp6940
@jamesclapp6940 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU ANDRE!
@omarkhatab1020
@omarkhatab1020 2 жыл бұрын
I will always buy a TRX bc of its price and availability unlike Fords ripe off deals 😂
@gopaulsalick507
@gopaulsalick507 2 жыл бұрын
So no more torsen.. which gave the raptor a one up on the trx(front lsd) now it's open just like the trx.... great job ford😒
@letsgobrandon416
@letsgobrandon416 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching an engineer who's proud of his creation tell everything about it.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
Engineers give good technical analysis imo. I really enjoy the nitty gritty details about he engineering. Im not like some people where I'm sold right away. I love to hear what the people who love building the machine have done to improve it and change it from one generation to the next.
@billyrice9711
@billyrice9711 2 жыл бұрын
They should have put the 7.3 Godzilla engine in it but the 5.2 is a great engine
@billyrice9711
@billyrice9711 2 жыл бұрын
@@efab9346 that 7.3 is far from trash, my friends F250 tremor is nothing but power
@evictioncarpentry2628
@evictioncarpentry2628 2 жыл бұрын
The 2HP difference will be more then equalled when the R weights 800lbs less. Has a 10 speed and the gearing.
@dmatthews3583
@dmatthews3583 2 жыл бұрын
Ford literally already came out and announced that it is not as quick as the TRX on the street.
@burgerbandit3646
@burgerbandit3646 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmatthews3583 When?
@MasonCatalone
@MasonCatalone 2 жыл бұрын
And, unlike Fiat junk, this truck will complete Baja with stock equipment. I am disappointed that it doesn't have a Torsen front end, but it's available on a Tremor. I think Andre surprised him when he pointed-out the "V". He was like, "Oh! [I didn't know about that!]"
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 2 жыл бұрын
The truck would be so much cheaper if it had a 7.3 godzilla push rod motor in it.. 5.2 is junk. Everyone that purchased this truck is going to modify the engine and it will blow up just like every other GT500 engine..
@BetaRacer24
@BetaRacer24 2 жыл бұрын
100% could of just put the 7.3 in the Raptor and people woulda bought it over the 3.5 eco
@brentbeiler7051
@brentbeiler7051 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly what the hell take a push rod motor any day!
@levicharles996
@levicharles996 2 жыл бұрын
Taking the Torsen out of the front and going to an electric differential was weird to hear.
@aussie2uGA
@aussie2uGA 2 жыл бұрын
Cost cutting and weight. Now they just use the brakes.
@bradentrevino7694
@bradentrevino7694 2 жыл бұрын
I heard an open differential when he said they’ll use the brakes. Wonder if there’s a power limitation on limited slips since the trx is the same way.
@JJsGA
@JJsGA 2 жыл бұрын
@@bradentrevino7694 nah, torsens can easily handle 1000+hp....there must be another weakness in the axle housing itself...
@tomcat6933
@tomcat6933 2 жыл бұрын
If I hear "Deep Dive" in any video I don't watch
@FoxFaderWorld
@FoxFaderWorld 2 жыл бұрын
I can hear the timing chain clack already. Wait, new chassis? Do I hear recall papers printing?
@therealTuggatron
@therealTuggatron 2 жыл бұрын
My boy Dre always asking the good questions.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
The naked chassis looks like alien technology
@micarguy8239
@micarguy8239 2 жыл бұрын
So the limiting factor to why they chose not to use a V8 before is the ‘suspension?’ Methinks not.
@TheAnnoyingBoss
@TheAnnoyingBoss 2 жыл бұрын
I know why. The V6 is lighter weight and better for the trails. They knew everyone wanted the V8 but they were holding back to build up the momentum. Deep down we all knew it was coming back. It just took the right time. They were totally developing it the entire time they just had to wait for talltbe trx owners to buy their trucks ad then want a new truck after a couple years, boom they drop it, perfect timing. It's a beast
@Limited-uq2yk
@Limited-uq2yk 2 жыл бұрын
Ignorance at it's finest
@raionshishi8290
@raionshishi8290 2 жыл бұрын
Really, it seems to me the nose heavy TRX that likes to dolphin dive after jumps really shows that suspension and weight is a big factor, which isn't suppose to be a surprise considering these are suppose to be dessert running and baja racing trucks, basically a trophy truck for the road. Stay ignorant if you want
@johnsnow1355
@johnsnow1355 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously ford thinks using the brakes to control the front wheel slipping is better then mechanical diff locks boy they are dumb.
@thebeddoctor4273
@thebeddoctor4273 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to get my 100k truck and race down to the mall. I will barely feel the curbs.
@blakew5672
@blakew5672 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly don’t blame anyone for not wanting to off-road such an expensive truck. Not many people have an expendable income that allows them to drive the truck like it’s intended to be driven
@BlueDually4x4
@BlueDually4x4 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakew5672 I think that applies to most performance vehicles. Although at least with the Raptor and the TRX you can comfortable do the speed limit on our shitty roads and not worry about tearing the oil pan off like nearly any performance car.
@blakew5672
@blakew5672 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlueDually4x4 Not a bad point. I love all specialty vehicles, but personally I’d get more use out of a sports car than I would the truck, depends on what part of the country you’re in though. We don’t have access to public land, blm land, etc in the east like they do out west, so apart from owning the land or finding someone okay with it, it’s not as easy to off-road as it is to find low traffic public roads or even drag race. Personally I’d love a manufacturer to cut corners on the “luxury” side of the trucks and bring the price down to something more inline with a vehicle that was made to get roughed up. That’s a criticism I have of most trucks in general though. Trucks were always meant to be purpose driven, work oriented vehicles blue collar workers could afford, not $70K+ leather-wrapped luxury mobiles for errand running.
@BlueDually4x4
@BlueDually4x4 2 жыл бұрын
@@blakew5672 Having been out east, I completely understand. And I agree it would be nice if trucks were less luxury sedan and more truck.
@sparda1123
@sparda1123 2 жыл бұрын
Are we not going to talk about options Ford is deleting on ALL F150s including the R? At least have a retrofit service down the line to push stuff out faster or give folks the option to wait. Simply deleting options and throwing you 100 bucks like it costs that to add that back in is poor customer service.
@KaiDragon
@KaiDragon 2 жыл бұрын
Ford was very proud of their V6 twin turbo in the Raptor until customers were trading in their v6 Raptors for a TRX v8. Ford basically took the biggest V8 engine they had in factory put a Supercharger on it and still couldn't match the RAM TRX in power. But Ford has the most powerful diesel engine.
@CurtisDishman
@CurtisDishman 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest V8 while maintaining the purpose of the Raptor…..Allegedly….. The TRX is absolutely awesome and probably fits most people in the performance truck market a bit better. But the raptor’s a much better truck for the off-road market it’s directed towards. Not saying the TRX isn’t great off road just not the Raptor’s level, and same with the Raptor, not as good on road for a performance vehicle as the TRX. I would have loved to see them slap their actual largest factory V8, then slap a Supercharger on it. Godzilla baby!!!
@KaiDragon
@KaiDragon 2 жыл бұрын
@@CurtisDishman A supercharged Godzilla v8 in the Raptor R would have been the perfect fit and true a balanced truck is a reliable truck. However, it all comes down to the customer's preference because Hennessey could take the Raptor R pass TRX's horsepower.
@michaelschneider530
@michaelschneider530 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest v8 they have? They have a 7.3 v8 as well... or they could have kept the 6.2 around.. or waited a little bit and used the 6.8 they just announced for the SD trucks lol.
@rau4329
@rau4329 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so 2 hp less and 10 less pounds of Torque is terrible? So you just pretending the 400 plus pounds the TRX weights more over the Raptor means nothing?
@ForTehNguyen
@ForTehNguyen 2 жыл бұрын
@@KaiDragon if Hennessey would even give your truck back, im sure you've heard about how scammy and shady they are
@iitztdutchboi1231
@iitztdutchboi1231 2 жыл бұрын
Love the Video, The Ford cheif engerineer looks like Victor Garber. From DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
@suhaibahmad05
@suhaibahmad05 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative
@shiftmotorsports9803
@shiftmotorsports9803 2 жыл бұрын
Hope that front diff never needs service
@justonpreble4083
@justonpreble4083 2 жыл бұрын
Why does Ford think only Raptor owners want a full size spare!!! This 37” capable spare tire location should be standard on all of the F- Series Trucks!
@heroicvictory7314
@heroicvictory7314 2 жыл бұрын
Nice show case of an overpriced vehicle that no can go out an purchase without taking out a 30 year loan 😒 That Raptor name really lost what made it special and set it apart from other vehicles
@fuze3522
@fuze3522 2 жыл бұрын
they ask why is it less powerful? because its a liter smaller than the TRX's 6.2. still impressive that its within 2hp and 10 lb-ft for an 1000cc disadvantage.
@Honoer
@Honoer 2 жыл бұрын
Just look at that, the more expensive version of the regular raptor that my middle class butt can’t even afford.
@drewz4236
@drewz4236 2 жыл бұрын
My middle class butt is barely middle class anymore f@$king inflation
@mongoosemotive
@mongoosemotive 2 жыл бұрын
YUUUUP!!!!!!!! 😂 mans was just really wanting to say yup
@BIG570S
@BIG570S 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the size of the addendums and “market value adjustments” on this bad boy.😂🤡🤡
@sixpest
@sixpest 2 жыл бұрын
200k shit like the c8 was almost 200k so you know this has to be 200 or more! Sad times
@SilverbackSS04
@SilverbackSS04 2 жыл бұрын
Ford Is My Weapon Of Choice. F150 Ecobeast and F350 Dually 6.7 Tuned and looking at a Dark Horse Stang Next Year.
@2010drive
@2010drive 2 жыл бұрын
"Ecobeast" lmao
@FentoZ
@FentoZ 2 жыл бұрын
They know what theyr doing, reliability is way more important than HP
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 2 жыл бұрын
That and the truck's gonna be 500 pounds lighter than its competition
@mikek5298
@mikek5298 2 жыл бұрын
The TRX has both.
@phprofYT
@phprofYT 2 жыл бұрын
Ford and knowing what they are doing are not synonymous.
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 2 жыл бұрын
@@phprofYT 😂😂😂😂
@Tegridynews
@Tegridynews 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikek5298 TRX weight 500 pounds more. Basically like having your fat sister in the passenger seat.
@LightningTime777
@LightningTime777 2 жыл бұрын
No more torsen huh? Completely relying on the electronic brake control now. Not a good decision I think.
@portalproducedit5906
@portalproducedit5906 2 жыл бұрын
The engineer said “umm” like a billion times😂
@roadreapervideos7001
@roadreapervideos7001 2 жыл бұрын
So?
@HardNorthOutdoors
@HardNorthOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
did they get this sales rep off craigslist ? wow.....
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