"Here’s What I Think Of Jordan Peterson" - Ben Shapiro

[@ChrisWillx]

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[@EbonyPope]

Unfortunately people like Tate have filled the void that Peterson left when he went of benzos. As much as I like to hear from time to time some of the religious stuff I think Peterson was at his best when talking less about abstract problems but real life problems that men face. I wished the old Peterson would come back.

[@jeanne-miriamkirsten108]

Hey Modern Wisdom team, Just a heads up, there is a typo in the video description. It reads “Chri” instead of “Chris”

[@RuthRogers-e1k]

He is still trying to find his self it's a lifetime project you and Shapiro stopped looking in the mirror

[@JayQuest69]

@@EbonyPope he takes abstract ideas and makes them concrete so what are you talking about lol and the benzo example doesn't support anything you're saying. If it wasn't for his political stance this whole scene wouldn't be what it is today. He spends a lot of time making connections from the metaphysical to the real world and all that is in religious stories .. how can you listen to him for so long and yet be so clueless..

[@JayQuest69]

@@EbonyPope it's also a silly idea to suggest that because Peterson had an issue with benzos that all of a sudden he plays a Keys responsibly for Tate's popularization ? lol

[@McBlamin]

Jordan Peterson changed my life, and after introducing him to my sons, he has changed their lives also. All for the best. I have the utmost respect for Jordon and Shapiro and Williamson!

[@utv5490]

These two make me feel talented and popular 😂😂😂😂

[@wakkablockablaw6025]

Maybe I'm just biased but I also love his spiritual stuff and political stuff. It all ties in nicely with his psychology stuff.

[@Sophie-P]

I agree. I think it's the natural conclusion and actual most practical implementation of everything else he's ever done.

[@amandacontreras5467]

Yes! And there’s no more important time for both than right now!

[@matthiaskorsinek3164]

Agree

[@wakkablockablaw6025]

@@AbhijeetMishra It depends on the context. When a member of the audience asks those kinds of questions, JP often acts like he doesn't know what is being asked. He should have a better answer prepared in those situations. However, if you look at the Dawkins convo, Dawkins derails the convo by asking questions that misses the point of the entire conversation. JP was speaking the truth, but Dawkins failed to see that there are more than scientific truths. Metaphors and spirituality aren't falsehoods so I don't see the irony.

[@wakkablockablaw6025]

@@AbhijeetMishra I kind of feel for JP because he is still searching for those answers. But he should be more forthcoming about not knowing. As for the Dawkins convo, JP did an amazing job. Maybe Alex deserves some credit but JP was as sharp as ever while Dawkins came off as intellectually lazy.

[@Keyfaze]

100% agree with Chris on the fact that Jordan is at his best when he is practical and less political.

[@LabelsAreMeaningless]

Less geo-political, not political in general. He's good on theory and usually correct when it comes to culture (which currently is very political) Then again I also think Ben should stay away from geo-politics. It isn't his strength and his takes are painfully bad to the point of often dishonest.

[@MutenRoscher]

@@LabelsAreMeaningless he is jew first, always.

[@mattmyers2624]

It's because political topics have heavy confirmation bias embedded in the propaganda narratives that get generated and propagated - and propaganda uses emotional manipulation to interfere with critical thinking, of which it is quite obvious by today - and which Jordan, his wife et al, are aware of - Jordan doesn't have emotional regulation. Instead he uses his strong mind to suppress his emotions - his heart and feelings are otherwise not integrated into a congruent autonomous nervous system, his emotions suppressed-repressed, and why he is prone to being impulsive such as cheerleading on Twitter for Netanyahu to "give 'em hell" - of which now the Palestinian civilian population certainly have felt his manifestation of words, and this hell continues to attempt to expand into this 4th reich's genocidal expansionist plans. After I pointed out on Twitter that he's seemingly an intelligent ideologue that he warned us as being the most dangerous, in his Beyond Order book, as they've convinced themselves they're really right - he and/or his handlers blocked me - a necessary isolation tactic to string along their puppets, to maintain the veil/illusion of long-running propaganda narratives, as part of their censorship-suppression-narrative control apparatus; from my perspective, "don't shoot the messenger," Jordan's on a path to hell unless or until he begins healing practices to clear his blocked heart, to calm his heart, so that it may begin to integrate into the neural network algorithm of his mind - so that his ego mind can stop the suppression-repression of his heart, and so that he can develop empathy and compassion, and not have a biased view - and not be so easily manipulated by emotion.

[@Raumance]

@@LabelsAreMeaningless Like what?

[@Todzuum]

@@LabelsAreMeaninglessya I’m curious like what genuinely

[@IntoTheDeep-i6c]

He actually cares…that’s what makes him special.

[@mikeottersole]

Peterson and Shapiro are both positive influences. You don't have to agree with them, but anyone who listens to their comments and thinks about what they said will learn something.

[@albertlevins9191]

Jordan Peterson is the kind of guy who makes you live life differently. In my case, it was a positive experience from a distance. But you guys who know him personally... That has gotta be a trip!

[@David-cf2iq]

Maps of Meaning is a Bear of a book. It took me six months to read it. Read a paragraph, think about it for 30 minutes, and so on, and so forth.

[@cahlendavidson2921]

Yep I had to keep going back to it. I read his other two books first even though I started with that one.

[@mattmyers2624]

And unfortunately he logically concluded to prevent tyranny and the horrors of genocide, to avoid atrocity, it comes down to the individual - but where he was unable to actually embody that, instead cheerleading for Netanyahu to "give 'em hell" to the occupied Palestinian population.

[@mikemo4252]

He says he wrote each and every sentence of that book 50+ times, individually, one by one, before moving on to the next.....a GRUELLING manner of writing, but that depth of investment (and surely, inner turmoil) can definitely be echoed in the reading experience on the other end .....I think he wrote that to be endured the way you describe.

[@mikemo4252]

​@@mattmyers2624he has err'd so many times on his path, but he ALWAYS sees his mistakes and course corrects...give him time: he's a small town, Canadian bumpkin, hick, basically, and is slow to pick up on the underside of geopolitics... he's not quite blinded by conventional politicking, but he can't quite help but anchor himself there, each time having to learn from scratch what "conspiracy theorists" try to warn about...either way, a current misalignment doesn't invalidate his history.

[@anderslennartsson1828]

@@mattmyers2624 One can become blinded by compassion, I myself have been a victim of this so many times that I feel shame about not learning this sooner, are you sure that your understanding of that conflict is greater than his? JP might be wrong of course, but you might also be wrong. He is an actual genius, incredibly well read and more insightful than most. What are the odds that he misunderstands the situation compared to the possibility that you have misunderstood the situation? Again, not saying he is right, but are you so sure of your own understanding to dismiss his outright? I myself used to be a Palestinian supporter and see them as the obvious victims, my compassion hindered me to see the complexity of it all and how the destructive forces in the Palestinian mindset has made them their own peoples greatest enemies.

[@raydonovan9013]

Yes. His contribution of life tips, his clinical experience, his comm9n sense and practicality, his concrete answers that we’ve never heard before, facilitated growth in so many people. I saw so many people listen to him and improve. He helped relationships in families, he helped young people get strong, he gave people hope and direction. Parents are often lacking that information and can’t communicate without criticizing.

[@johnschuh8616]

His #1 advice is never lie. NEVER.

[@SoloSábio33]

I don't think many people will believe this but... There was a time I had given up on life. I was making plans to delete myself and had taken actions on some of them. Making sure I would hurt no one when I desapeared. It was Jordan Peterson who showed me trough his speeches that even someone like me had some value. I never met him personally. But through his videos he have certanly saved my life. I still think abolut deleting myself sometimes. But in those times I just listen to his speeches and the saves me again over and over again. Thank you Jordan and Thank you to all who post his videos.

[@Nancy-k3r6p]

Your life is precious, and full of potential. I am glad you are still on the planet with us. Never give up!

[@SoloSábio33]

@@Nancy-k3r6p Thank you. I would like to ask you though... What makes my life precious? Why would you be glad? We never met. If I indeed give up you would never know or make any difference.

[@ralphtroan]

👍❤🙏🤗

[@Nancy-k3r6p]

@@SoloSábio33 I am 70 years old. About half a century ago, I suffered from severe depression and was hospitalized for long stretches of time. I thought I would never feel joy again, never laugh again, I wanted to give up, but thank God, I didn't have the guts to do it. I got well, and in the last 50 years, I have known incredible joy, and my share of tragedy, but I am so glad that I didn't lose the gift of my life. I truly love people, and I can identify with losing the will to live, but I know how precious life is, and when anyone disclosed their despair, I try to give them courage and tell them that they matter, in the hope that they will hang on through the darkness to emerge into a brighter tomorrow. I hope you will, and I wish you much joy in the future.

[@atlantean1209]

@@SoloSábio33 it might be worthwhile for you to look into near death experiences. Read some books about them. Most great mystics agree that before we enter this life, we choose to do so, along with certain tests that we will have. So if you delete yourself, it’s basically like abandoning the classes you chose to take. You may find that once you get to the other side, you might have to repeat those tests in another lifetime. Obviously I’m not God so I can’t say 100%, but that is the gist of what I’ve learned. And this is coming from someone who has also had thoughts about deleting themselves. I’ve realized how important music and community are for me, so I’m trying to start a band. Don’t give up trying to find your own reasons to live.

[@raydonovan9013]

The majority of Jordan’s critics have never listened to him. They’ve listened to someone else’s opinion who they think they agree with and parrot their opinion. People are hungry for day to day guidance on leading their lives with good outcomes. He helped people be more certain about living. He’s full of insight. Everyone’s light bulbs would go off and they’d get that a-ha moment!

[@rodblues6832]

I think the opposite is true. His critics are generally people who have read as much as he has and have come to different conclusions. His FANS are the ones who don’t have enough background knowledge to understand that he’s largely full of bs.

[@tobetrayafriend]

​@@rodblues6832 Utter bullsh1t

[@HouseOfBrr]

@@rodblues6832yea no, people generally don’t listen people they disagree with as much as people they agree with. Hence why conservatives mostly watch Fox and liberals watch CNN, maybe you disagree with Jordan and have read a substantial amount of his work but that’s not the normals Jordan hater to to speak

[@vizveebee]

I agree. People expect things to stay the same, but they cannot, and we humans don't either. If we are stuck in our own rut of what we like to hear, then that is our problem, not the speaker's.

[@jkman10]

Do you not see the irony in your comment? How do you know what content a majority of Jordan's critics have listened to? Did you poll his critics and ask how much time they've listented to him? If so, how many did you poll? You need a sufficient sample size to extrapolate to the entirety of the critic base. Of the criticism I see online of him, it's not about his philosophy on how to live life. It's his political opinions and intellectual laziness when trying to argue the validity of his religion.

[@knuerr]

Love listening to both of you.

[@hallie6645]

It was interesting to hear Ben talk about the tension between what his audience wants and what he wants to do. As a long time listener of Ben's daily show (though only intermittently the last couple of years), I have sensed a boredom from Ben with his show. If I were a friend of his, I would encourage him to step back from the daily show or reduce its frequency, so he can focus more on those things that he is excited about.

[@brookswalker6859]

Jordan Peterson has helped more people than anyone here in the comments section. I enjoy his takes no matter what the topic is.

[@IanAllans]

judgmentcallpodcast covers this. Ben Shapiro discusses Jordan Peterson.

[@rebel7332]

Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson are both great minds, and therefore it is no big surprise they can get along. Great people!

[@AagamJain-k7m]

😂

[@KayLeb-dj4mz]

Lol,. Hasabara is full on in this comments section eh. Shapiro ain't ur friend. Free USA Free USA FREE USA

[@StabbyMcPokepoke]

Someone should ask Jordan Peterson what he thinks of Jordan Peterson Edit: Thanks for the likes. Y’all are hilarious 😂

[@Kris.G]

Well, what the hell do you even mean by that?

[@ChickRussell]

⁠@@Kris.G 😂I heard his voice in my head while reading that … Thanks for the lol

[@ifanguitar]

"Depends what you mean by 'think'. It's not immediately clear what that means. Nietzsche believed thoughts were an echo of your experiences but can one be said to have experienced oneself? So in a sense it is meaningless to ask someone what they think of themselves. It's not even immediately clear what part of me you are asking about"

[@ChickRussell]

@@ifanguitar 😂😂😂omg, stop. I can’t breathe

[@Dropshot06]

"Well let's back it up and say, y'know. Maybe your life's not going how you want it to. Maybe you're a mess and you have no social life and everything's horrible. The thoughts you have then aren't the thoughts you have now. See, because your thoughts are an outpouring of yourself, based on what's within. So."

[@thespiritofhegel3487]

My life has been completely transformed since I tidied my room.

[@jonaspipper2701]

how so?

[@prich0382]

​@@jonaspipper2701Laziness kills ambition. Now read it right to left

[@colleenshea2293]

Jordan Peterson is one of our greatest humanitarians in the world today ! And an intellectual giant.

[@Public-jm1cb]

Well spoken by the person who probably shouldn't be allowed to vote

[@georgepoly4842]

@@Public-jm1cbwell spoken by someone who thinks someone should be denied basic rights because they admire a figure that you hate because you personally disagree with their politics.

[@Public-jm1cb]

@@georgepoly4842 it's not even because I personally disagree with Peterson, I just can't imagine how stupid someone would have to be to call him a great humanitarian and an intellectual giant.

[@Extra_050]

@@Public-jm1cb Tell us which of his beliefs or positions you disagree with.

[@Public-jm1cb]

@@Extra_050 i think he's wrong to be pushing the carnivore diet because studies seem to show that red meat heavy diets lead to shorter lives

[@hacorn96]

I absolutely love the fact that Jordan delves into politics. Very few philosophers come down from the layer of abstract ideas to the layer of politics and culture. And even fewer philosophers use those ideas to further dissect the culture and politics. And then there's Jordan who even mixes his scientific knowledge to analyse the situation.

[@ashleyhgmhc]

Jordan's We Who Wrestle with God series is by far his greatest contribution and I can't wait to read the book.

[@domusardet4961]

Jordan Peterson sees life as a knowledge journey. I enjoy just following his journey & hope people will let him follow it without interference

[@vicp7124]

Meaning is the deepest thing inside of us and most difficult to understand and investigate without tying ourselves in knots.

[@mclp-wc8eg]

I can listen to Jordan and Ben all day long, I am from Ecuador, and love their mind

[@jacobeberhardt1649]

I 1,000% agree that he's at his best when he's his most practical. If you listen to his new series Depression and Anxiety it's 100% that practical, psycho-analysis that I love love love to hear from him.

[@laurahano2587]

I loved Jordan as a therapist, a literature teacher, a faith leader, and warrior for freedom. Some of y'all say he should be less political, perhaps you should reconsider if it's political to stand up for yourself. I fully believe if you breathe air and eat food, you're being political. Policies and people effect everything in your life.

[@gavinbinding]

Ben, I would absolutely love commentary / interpretation of the Bible or WW2 or any of those things you mentioned.

[@stephensullivan1011]

Have you never heard his commentary on the Bible?

[@gavinbinding]

@@stephensullivan1011 nope

[@ttrinhity]

I DEFINITELY want Ben to do a show analysing the Bible and great works of literature! That would be the best! Hopefully there's enough people like me who want that too!!!

[@Chicahcah]

I actually remember that episode Ben was referencing, it was really good. Hopefully he does more of that!

[@Spills51]

Jordan is one man, he can only focus on things one at a time. He has no doubt had so much positive effects on likely millions, even if its partly subconscious by just picking up something you've heard him say in passing. Its very easy, at least to me to see those who really want the best for people...he shines as an honest man.

[@andywakeman9806]

Yes! Ben please do more historical content and BIG ideas!

[@maryj7423]

Maybe it's just me, but I think Jordan is a wild genius, and not knowing much, I like watching him being him, because I'm sure I will learn either way.

[@fringedad6848]

The medium is the message! Haven't heard that in a while 😊

[@kennyoffhenny]

Glad Ben mentioned “The Right Side of History” to cater to Jordan’s audience. Never heard of it but I’ll definitely check it out!

[@stoneyascension7250]

JP is a blessing to the entire world like Ben.

[@arnavrawat9864]

I for one, want Jordan to do the political stuff. I think he brings a clarity to politics which people don't have. Although i don't watch politics, i would like him to debate more people in poitics after acquiring expertise in it.

[@marianmechkov4185]

1:26 we got camera movement in the podcast before gta 6

[@HM1-d4d]

Kamala hand moves becoming trend 😂

[@iDuckman]

What a good interviewer!

[@fullur]

I love Free to Choose. I sat down and watched the whole run a few years ago and always watch the clips when KZbin recommends them. I plan to get a copy to show my kid when he is older.

[@evelynwatkins1105]

Politics and Religion are some of the most important underlying foundations of our lives. Especially religion. These are the things that affect our lives. It's wonderful to see Jordan Peterson progressing and interpreting these ideas.

[@jonnyref3475]

Sadly the great military historian John Keegan died in 2012, so Ben would not be able to sit down with him. But it would be great to see his idea of a series with historians come to life.

[@alanmcclenaghan7548]

Indeed, when Ben said that I remembered that when I graduated from the Queen's University of Belfast in 2000, Keegan was awarded an honorary doctorate, and he was in a bad way then. They gave him a long introduction while he stood waiting, bent over and supporting himself with canes. He was sweating and blowing and I expected him to collapse at any moment. But it's a great idea. Would love to see it.

[@OscarPérez-p8r]

From what I understand Jordan now is trying to figure out the human narrative trough wich the practical can rest, and he have found out the religious language to make sense to that human narrative, also he mentions a lot the importance of something bigger than humans so that the leaders can have principles and something above them that don't make them feel like they are the gods

[@mattengland653]

Maps of Meaning I believe is Jordan’s most underrated work. You could argue it can be dense and almost impenetrable as it reads much more like a white paper or study, but his ultimate assessment / theme is game changing.

[@Eddy002]

Amazing interview! Very good questions, and amazing responses and insights into who Ben really is. Edit: also, I love that you jumped right into what the title of the video was. I’m so annoyed by the headlines that aren’t relevant to what is discussed, or is a tiny part of a long video. You did a great job!

[@LjTodockin]

All what I can say, you can always learn from JP, positives and negatives.

[@shawnoleary6031]

It's a great inverview you did with Ben Shaprio. You should become a guest on his show and continue this conversation.

[@danjohnson8556]

His analysis of the Pinocchio story was an eye-opening experience.

[@t.r.kershner1840]

Would love a historians show with Ben. Also loved the book club content

[@morganj1997]

I think if Ben Shapiro did an episode with a likeminded Rabbi about the Bible, with an emphasis on history, politics, war, Hitler and today’s war against the Middle East-it would be wildly popular. I’d watch it.

[@mattmyers2624]

He only speaks to "safe" populist podcasters and college kids..

[@sercastamere9853]

That's literally every episode of his podcast.

[@morganj1997]

@@sercastamere9853 Name one episode in the last year on which he discusses these topics with a Rabbi? I listen to his Podcasts and I would hate to have missed it.

[@sheilaberrigan9736]

yes yes...do the historian roundtable, that would be great!

[@philipcolbert2069]

"The medium is the message" - a Canadian said this. Marshall McCuhan.

[@Mlai00]

This short clip really showcases how CW is a very good interviewer. Great questions!

[@FaithEncouragedTV]

But you can't sustain those outstanding "daily" practices that consistently change a person without a deep appreciation of a profound foundational perspective. It's the strong religious and cultural foundation that makes daily practices possible and sustainable.

[@kensmith8152]

I saw him at the PAC in Newark NJ. He’s the master of the run on sentence!😂

[@tabithatate6215]

Damn, I must have been one of the few listeners who loved his book club. I was so bummed when he stopped doing it.

[@richardgarcia1184]

I would love a series of discussions with historians. I would subscribe to Daily Wire for that and for Jordan’s biblical discussions.

[@Todzuum]

All Jordan’s current stuff on daily wire is worth a month subscription, his new biblical stuff is good

[@stephensullivan1011]

You GOTTA check out jbp's Exodus seminar on daily wire. It's unbelievable that we live in a time where we can access that information so easily... Hope you get to enjoy that :)

[@anderslennartsson1828]

The Exodus seminars you can find for free here on YT. They are well worth to support by paying though, but If you wish to try it first it is well worth it. Its some of the most insightful discussions I have ever heard.

[@richardgarcia1184]

@@anderslennartsson1828 Yeah I listened to those earlier this year as they were released. They were interesting.

[@SmartAss4123]

He's a bit out of his profession sometimes. But his ability to research the relevant literature on topics makes him FAR more worthy to listen to than media who just read paid scripts

[@johnmarten4184]

When Chris asks the right question of Ben he can take kick back for the rest of the show.

[@twiley3530]

Great interview

[@alessiosandro123]

He should continue giving not only practical and life advice, but also some political stuff but without letting it get him

[@johnschuh8616]

Disagree. Solecism is our number one fault. MEME.

[@FrankyD41]

Jordan Peterson is a world treasure.

[@eneveasi]

I actually learned something about running a public education business listening to this

[@klemenskrem]

Ben I would love the history round table idea

[@NickC12321]

I think this is the longest I've heard Mr. Shapiro talk without a tie in to an advertisement.

[@willobrien353]

BTW, I love “Free To Choose” and I do relisten to it from time to time. But I get your point.

[@laurahano2587]

If you disagree with Jordan Peterson, you have much to learn. Jordan's ideas are nothing new. You aren't disagreeing with just Jordan, it's an entire collection of great men and thinkers of the past you're claiming to be wiser than. Think again.

[@biogenicdesign]

Well said 🤝🫶👏

[@tavisbuschman3412]

I disagree with him on climate change and some of his politics. Don’t follow anyone blindly

[@laurahano2587]

@@tavisbuschman3412 That's the point isn't it? If you were blindly following others, you wouldn't be thinking.

[@pogoskitgod7850]

Dawkins tears him apart

[@BlameAaron]

you see, in order to preseve what they like, you need to have this fight, because the powers that be are trying to rig the game or move the goal post....so the fight is needed..Additionally, Jordan is a gift that keeps giving, becuase he is a human that is keeping up with the fights and fighting on the legislative level. Which unfortunatley is why he is fighting for his license and have to undergo retraining as a general public experiment..He is demonstrating how to cope with the struggles of the challenges they face on multiple levels.

[@bogdanaperic8488]

8:14 I loved Ben’s book club, I honestly would deeply enjoy his interpretation on the books of Moses and would love to have the book club back!

[@xJessiGirlProx]

I’ve always wanted his perspective on the Bible, for sure.

[@tylerboone6584]

What you call "other stuff" has always been part of the package. He'll bring up what he brings when he thinks it's the right time. He's the man. 👍

[@s.a.6082]

He should really stay in his lane and leave the "other stuff" to people who know what they're talking about and are in their lane.

[@maximkmrr3879]

I DO want to listen to Ben’s analysis of Genesis! ❤️‍🔥

[@kensmith8152]

I started reading his new book, admittedly, a tough read. I haven’t struggled with a book like this since college

[@paulalbamonte4756]

DW has Brett Cooper for a comment section just what people are talking about that day . No one else in DW should waste time on the daily hits of the day . Keep to your strengths and passion . That sways an audience

[@SquirrelsNestOutdoors]

Absolutely would love to watch a deep dive into Genesis with Ben. That would be incredible!

[@tyler9281]

I've been listening to Peterson for close to 9 years. He stated that he "lives on the edges of things." From a religious perspective, I find his unwillingness to take a position on key biblical events frustrating at times. For example, it took Alex O'Connor several attempts to get Jordan to take a position on the resurrection. The New Testament accounts, while containing broad truth claims that Jordan primarily focuses on, are eyewitness accounts. At some point, one needs to either believe the eyewitness accounts or not believe them.

[@anderslennartsson1828]

Why? Why should we force others to take positions they do not wish to take? The trope of the sage is to give vague answers for a reason, you rob the person of their own adventure if you simply tell them what they should believe instead of giving them the tools to figure it out for themselves. "Do what is meaningful, not what is expedient". Also, he is wildly aware that people mean different things with basically all statements, so if he straight up tells us his position, the majority will just misunderstand him based on their own personal narrative.

[@CaroleScarborough-w7y]

Why do people insist that he "take a position" on anything? He's not obliged to explain his deepest beliefs for someone's curiosity on KZbin. Let the man have his privacy, and continue his faith journey in his own time.

[@ahwhite2022]

It's nice to see Ben actually stop and ponder a response before going into his usual rapid fire blur. I always read where some KZbin viewers watch videos at 1.5 speed or what not. I have to wonder if any of Chris's audience was able to do that with this interview with Ben once he gets going. The man makes some great points, but my brain doesn't have time to digest them. Then again, I also like watching old videos. Nothing "normal" about me.

[@DanielFriendMusic]

Darn good questions man.

[@theoplunkett5262]

Chris is questioning so straight and honest here. I have alot of respect for that

[@Tiffany-m4b]

For the record, as part of Ben's DW audience I would totally listen to him so a deep dive of Genesis

[@ttibsen82]

I haven't watched Free to Choose, but it's going on my watch list since Ben brought it up,

[@annielavell]

yes Ben i would love to watch a roundtable on history events

[@xJessiGirlProx]

I wish I could’ve watched his book club stuff but I didn’t have that subscription. I love his Facts series as well

[@TeamDiezinelli]

9:52 I think he’s right. I recommend also the podcast ‚the rest is history‘ pretty much the same idea, Tom Holland and a colleague dive into different historical times.

[@danblack5402]

Ben is a really thoughtful, really smart guy. BTW, I really like Candace Owens too, but, as the whole drama between her and DW was happening, I couldn’t think of anything I cared less about. A lot of people I know unsubscribed from Ben over that. I think they’re missing out on all of his insights. I don’t agree with him on everything, but, the man is smart and you could learn a lot from him.

[@sweetwilliam27]

I think the reason why his suggestions for self improvement are compelling is because they are supplemented and informed by a theo-ontology that lays out why sacrifice and responsibility are cardinal virtues.

[@kurt2612]

I'm probably twice Chris' age... but I am completely infatuated by his seemingly wise demeanor for his limited time as an adult. I'm a nerd who first began listening to long form interviews of mathemeticians, physicists and philosophers... followed by political discussions from reasonable people rather than partisan buffoons. Chris has literally run the entire gauntlet with class. Rarely do I look forward to anyone's next interview.... I always look forward to Chris posting his next conversation.

[@davidwilliams3010]

I joined at a higher level at Daily Wire in order to watch the Book Club. Would really like more Bible commentary by Ben (and others).

[@ryand1404]

What Ben said here about content creators on platforms is basically this: You either make content you are authentically interested in and not many people will like it, or you become a big content creator by catering to the changing demands of the masses and be a bit inauthentic by doing so. You either give the people what they want and gain further fame or you stay small by sticking to what you know and really enjoy. This explains the activity of many creators as well as Jordan Peterson’s trajectory from self-improvement to political content. No wonder so many people usually turn more radical. Radicalism gets them more clicks and engagement.

[@simalakasatsimaganda]

@ryand1404 that's a great point; i would add that almost all fields and industries (not just creative fields) seem to become less honest and more corrupt as they scale to a level of mass appeal and mass sales. This is probably only exacerbated by ubiquitous and very visible interaction between formerly innocent creative people and "The Algorithm," whether that of KZbin or any other platform. All of our favorite creators have already justified some level of algorithmic behavior to themselves (foot-in-the-door sales technique), and therefore they become ambassadors of the positive aspects and benefits of "The Algorithm" to multiples of followers. And of course there are positive aspects and advantages of "The Algorithm." But because the foot is already in the door, discussions of the negative aspects & drawbacks are rare regarding the built-in, platform-level radicalization that you describe - unless of course it is to accuse some opponent or other of abusing it. So it is up to disinterested commenters I suppose to point out some remedies, not just to diagnose and point fingers. One remedy is to limit the time you spend scrolling & clicking, of course. Beyond that, I like to recommend actively interacting with video content instead of always being a passive consumer. *Write down* your reactions to the content you consume, including additional sources and citations. When you connect the dots for yourself and synthesize a genuine response to the viewpoints you consume, occasionally you'll be in complete agreement - but most often, you'll discover for yourself that the most radical "hot takes" are things you don't really agree with, and now you know WHY.

[@ryand1404]

@@simalakasatsimaganda Yes, at some point everyone must bow to Father Algorithm 🙇‍♂️ The Algorithm determines All and the Algorithm is All. It is through Father Algorithm we receive out content and must be grateful. Thanks to Daddy Algorithm, we receive the radical hot takes so that we can argue with each other and pump up Daddy Algorithm’s glory. We few who are free of Algorithm’s shackles will try to carve our own paths but we will also probably come crawling back.

[@jstro7136]

That's a gross mischaracterization. He's simply says that what he has to balance what is most interesting to him with what appeals to his larger audience. This can be done while remaining intellectually honest.

[@mitchmilner5291]

A change is as good as a holiday.

[@ScholteimReinbachIII]

I think Jordon is less afraid to explore things that the mainstream is uncomfortable with. Jordan does Jordan and I admire that.

[@cathyb2204]

Grest stuff. I quit watching DW when Hamas attacked Israel because Ben was so super focused on those issues. It just wasn't what I wanted to spend an hour a day on. I still love Ben, but I haven't got back in the DW habit.

[@Zac-ls6hn]

Remember we're all in this together, I'm pulling for you

[@Ry_315]

The zoom in on the hands moving sent me

[@mdenevares]

I would love Ben talking more about the Bible as well as history

[@michaelflanagan27]

He is a parody of himself sometimes at this point. I love JP he’s been through a lot, and unfortunately being attacked so viciously, while him being a sensitive guy, changed him a bit

[@williamstdog9]

YESSS!!! Please do the round table about WW 2 Ben!!! 🙏👌🙂

[@glizta42]

What I care about is that Jordan stay true to his search for meaning - this is his journey that we are witness to. Our own lives are our responsibility not his.

[@Razear]

Creating more in-depth content on big ideas has a lot more longevity than doing a daily show talking about current events. The politics of the day will likely be transitory, whereas a detailed breakdown of an important historical period will still remain relevant to future audiences.

[@producerPR]

I LOVE Free to Choose by Milton Friedman. I actually think that one's making a comeback.

[@brandonbutler334]

I did. I watched all of Milton Friedman's Free to Choose.

[@gerardgauthier4876]

Listening to intellects has demonstrated one thing to me... They is no truth there, only opinion.